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Speaker 2: Here's on number. It's eight hundred and nine to four
Speaker 2: one sean if you want to be a part of
Speaker 2: the program. Fifteen days until an inflection point. I would
Speaker 2: argue for this country, two weeks from today it'll be election,
Speaker 2: even America. I think it's the most important tipping point
Speaker 2: election in our lifetime. One thing that we now see
Speaker 2: as a phenomenon is that Democrats are just freaking out
Speaker 2: at every poll. We've gone over the poll numbers earlier
Speaker 2: in the program today, over demographic breakdowns and how African Americans,
Speaker 2: Hispanic Americans are moving towards Donald Trump in larger numbers
Speaker 2: than anybody thought possible. And a lot of people forget
Speaker 2: Donald Trump's record when it comes to minorities in America.
Speaker 2: I've gone over the economic record more than any other.
Speaker 2: The people that benefited the most for the first three
Speaker 2: years just prior to the pandemic from Donald trump economic
Speaker 2: policies by far, and that's measured by in terms of
Speaker 2: income increases the reduction of poverty, were African Americans, Hispanic Americans,
Speaker 2: Asian Americans, women in the workplace, and African American youth unemployment.
Speaker 2: There was never a president that committed more money to
Speaker 2: historically black universities and colleges than Donald J.
Speaker 3: Trump.
Speaker 2: There's never been a president that took seriously the issue
Speaker 2: of disparate sentencing on which had been a source of
Speaker 2: discussion in this country for decades than Donald Trump. And
Speaker 2: you know, I think the scene that America probably remembers
Speaker 2: the most is our friend who will join us in a minute.
Speaker 2: Alice Marie Johnson proud to call her a friend to
Speaker 2: this day. And she had a one time offense. He
Speaker 2: had been in jail for twenty one years, and she
Speaker 2: thought she would end up dying in jail and that
Speaker 2: was the end of her life. And rather than becoming
Speaker 2: bitter and angry, he ended up counseling young women that
Speaker 2: would go to prison and basically help them in their
Speaker 2: lives and help them rebuild their lives and get their
Speaker 2: priorities in order so that they'd never come back. But
Speaker 2: not an opportunity she thought would ever come away, but
Speaker 2: thanks to Donald Trump, it did. Here's Kamala Harris addressing
Speaker 2: over the weekend that there's a narrative about the kind
Speaker 2: of support we're receiving from black men. And here's what
Speaker 2: you said.
Speaker 1: Do you think some of the resistance of some men
Speaker 1: black and white is misogynist? And are you proud to
Speaker 1: see that most.
Speaker 3: Americans, even even being.
Speaker 1: Pold, have no problem supporting a woman at all. And
Speaker 1: I'm one that lived from Shirley to Kamalo in terms
Speaker 1: of these campaigns.
Speaker 3: That have an emotional reaction to.
Speaker 4: You raising the plant of Shirle Chism because it is
Speaker 4: on her broad shoulders that I stand and so many
Speaker 4: of us stand, and we have come a long way.
Speaker 3: To your point.
Speaker 4: That being said, I think that you are absolutely right
Speaker 4: that there is this narrative about what kind of support
Speaker 4: we are receiving from black men that is just not
Speaker 4: panning out in reality. In terms of when I go
Speaker 4: to last night Atlanta and had I think ten thousand
Speaker 4: people at a rally, I will also say this, rev.
Speaker 4: I am very clear. I must earn earn the vote
Speaker 4: of everyone, regardless of their race or gender. And what
Speaker 4: can be frustrating sometimes is to have journalists ask me
Speaker 4: this question as though.
Speaker 3: One should assume that I would.
Speaker 4: Just be able to take for granted the vote of
Speaker 4: black men.
Speaker 3: I think that's actually.
Speaker 4: An uninformed perspective, because why would black men be any
Speaker 4: different than any other demographic voter. They expect that you
Speaker 4: earn their vote.
Speaker 2: Now, let's go back to her surrogate Barack Obama and
Speaker 2: lecturing African American men on the issue of quote the
Speaker 2: Brothers not supporting Kamala Harris and suggesting that it was
Speaker 2: misogyny and not wanting a woman elected president.
Speaker 3: Listen, see the.
Speaker 5: Same kinds of energy and turn out in all quarters,
Speaker 5: how our data lags and securities as you saw when
Speaker 5: I was wrong. Now, I also want to say that
Speaker 5: it seems to be more pronounced with the Brothers.
Speaker 6: I'm speeding you men directly as the Parliament makes me ma. Well,
Speaker 6: you just aren't feeling the idea of having a when
Speaker 6: as president, and you're coming up with other alternatives, and I'm.
Speaker 7: The reasons for him.
Speaker 6: So now you're thinking about sitting out or even supporting
Speaker 6: somebody who has a history of ptegrating you because you'reunited.
Speaker 6: That's a sound striker, because that's why being a mandas
Speaker 6: putting women down.
Speaker 8: That's so exciting.
Speaker 2: The Republicans are racist, They're sexist, misogynistic, homophobic, xenophobic, is Lamophobic, transphobic.
Speaker 2: They want dirty air and water, and they want to
Speaker 2: take away Grandma and Grandpa's Social Security and Medicare and
Speaker 2: throw them over a cliff. I tell you, I told
Speaker 2: you that that would be what they're reduced to by
Speaker 2: the end of this campaign. And here we are anyway.
Speaker 2: My dear friend Alice Maurie Johnson is back with us.
Speaker 2: Kwame Kilpatrick is also back with us. He's the Detroit mayor,
Speaker 2: by the way, himself now on the Michigan airwaves and
Speaker 2: was freed from prison, both of them by former President
Speaker 2: Donald J. Trump. Welcome back. We appreciate your time. Alice, Maria,
Speaker 2: I love you. How are you.
Speaker 3: I'm proud to say that we are friends on air
Speaker 3: and off air.
Speaker 7: Thank you, Sean. I'm happy to be on here again,
Speaker 7: and you are my dear friend, my dear beloved friend,
Speaker 7: and I'm happy to be on here and add my
Speaker 7: voice to the voice of sense. First of all, in
Speaker 7: case your listeners didn't know this, I'm a one hundred
Speaker 7: percent woman and black Americans, and I for one am
Speaker 7: sick and tired of all of the gender and racial
Speaker 7: pandering that I'm hearing taking place. You know Sean. They
Speaker 7: speak of the first woman of color as president, they
Speaker 7: speak of black men having a problem voting for a woman.
Speaker 7: That is not the issue, it's the candidate. We don't
Speaker 7: want our first to be the worst, and that's what
Speaker 7: we'd end up with if we select Kamala Harris. The
Speaker 7: worst in history is what she would be if she's elected.
Speaker 2: I just want to remind people of your story. You
Speaker 2: never thought that you had one time offender and you
Speaker 2: got a life prison sentence, no hope.
Speaker 7: Years, no hope until Donald Trump, who actually read my story.
Speaker 7: I was denied three times under the Obama administration. And
Speaker 7: when Donald Trump saw my case, it wasn't the fact
Speaker 7: that it was Kim Kardashian, a celebrity. It was the
Speaker 7: fact that he looked at me as a human being,
Speaker 7: and he had mercy and compassion upon him. And not
Speaker 7: only did he look at myself, but he allowed me
Speaker 7: to bring other petitions of worthy candidates before him. You
Speaker 7: got one one of those people on the phone right now,
Speaker 7: and that's Kwanmee kill Patrick. I took his petition before
Speaker 7: President Trump, and he did not look He looked at them.
Speaker 7: He looked at the man who kwame is today. And
Speaker 7: I love for Kwame to speak for himself too, because
Speaker 7: we both, both of our lives were saved by President Trump.
Speaker 2: Well, Kwame's kill. Patrick. Great to have you back. We
Speaker 2: appreciate you being with us. Remind people of your story
Speaker 2: the mayor of Detroit. How long were you sentenced for?
Speaker 3: Again?
Speaker 8: I was the mayor of Detroit. But before that, I
Speaker 8: was the Democratic leader and the state Legislature in Michigan.
Speaker 8: You know, I ran for the State House at twenty five,
Speaker 8: I was leader by thirty. I was you know, on
Speaker 8: the DLC, the DNC, I was on both of those
Speaker 8: executive boards. I was like a Clinton Democrat, if you will,
Speaker 8: traveled on Air Force one and around the world with
Speaker 8: Bill Clinton, over to London, and you know, I was
Speaker 8: involved in that. My mother was the United States congresswoman.
Speaker 8: She was far to the left of me, one of
Speaker 8: those liberation Democrats, my hero. But it's just a very
Speaker 8: interesting background. Then I got to be mayor. I ran
Speaker 8: at thirty one, at thirty one and was mayor for
Speaker 8: seven years. And then my gift, my anointing, as you will, Sean,
Speaker 8: it took me to a place that my character, integrity
Speaker 8: didn't grow at the same place at the same pace,
Speaker 8: and so I fell from that position found myself in
Speaker 8: a prison sentenced to twenty eight years. I had thirty
Speaker 8: four counts. When I hear that thirty four over and
Speaker 8: over about the President, it's like a wicked reminder to
Speaker 8: me of what the system can do when they have
Speaker 8: you in their grips. And so I ended up being
Speaker 8: charged and then being convicted and went to that on
Speaker 8: that sentence, and then seven years. About thirty nine days
Speaker 8: short from eight years in prison, I was sitting in
Speaker 8: a solitary confinement for about two hundred and some days
Speaker 8: and the warden came to the door and said, we're
Speaker 8: gonna get you out of here quick and quiet. You
Speaker 8: received a commutation from the president. It's true. I hit
Speaker 8: the floor, thank God, and got up and walked out
Speaker 8: the front door. And since that time, I've been looking
Speaker 8: for Donald Trump. I gotta find, I have to find.
Speaker 8: I never met Donald Trump. I never had a conversation
Speaker 8: with Donald Trump. And finally I did make it to
Speaker 8: meet with him on just a crazy circumstances, seeing one
Speaker 8: of his good friends in Detroit, and we had that meeting.
Speaker 8: I got a chance to thank him, and this is
Speaker 8: why I want people to know. Donald Trump has never
Speaker 8: asked me to do it or say anything. As a
Speaker 8: matter of fact, in that meeting, I learned so much
Speaker 8: about demand Donald Trump. We were together all day, from
Speaker 8: about ten to eleven in the morning, all the way
Speaker 8: to about eleven o'clock at night. We were at the golf
Speaker 8: course early then Marlago that evening, and what really floored
Speaker 8: me was how intuitive he is, the questions that he asked,
Speaker 8: how he yearned for information knowledge, and so I was
Speaker 8: able to break down the Michigan e lectory, what it is,
Speaker 8: what happened. He wanted to hear about how in one
Speaker 8: county you have a thirty thousand vote swing, and I
Speaker 8: explained that to him. But it was a chance for
Speaker 8: me to get to know from myself the man Donald
Speaker 8: Trump and the president Donald Trump, not just the person
Speaker 8: who most of the media try to make him out
Speaker 8: to be on television.
Speaker 2: Now you're broadcasting and tell me about your life now
Speaker 2: and how you're a different person.
Speaker 8: Well in prison, after being mad at everybody shine for
Speaker 8: about a year and a half and being floored I
Speaker 8: had at that time, I had three children from my
Speaker 8: first marriage of twenty four years my sons were totally
Speaker 8: upset with me and upset with life, and they dropped
Speaker 8: out of school and all kinds of stuff happened for
Speaker 8: a time, and I went to the chapel one day
Speaker 8: and met this guy from Ukon, Oklahoma, Bruce Smith. And
Speaker 8: I'm sure he's listening to you. That guy loves you,
Speaker 8: and so I had to get his name. But he
Speaker 8: asked me to I have a personal relationship with the
Speaker 8: Lord Jesus Christ, and I told him I did. And
Speaker 8: from that place we started to move together. And after
Speaker 8: that I started teaching Bible studies. I did all the courses.
Speaker 8: Then I started preaching in the chapel. So when I
Speaker 8: got out, my wife and I'm my new wife. We
Speaker 8: founded a ministry in Georgia. We have now moved our
Speaker 8: ministry to Detroit, just outside of Detroit, and that's what
Speaker 8: I'm doing. I'm speaking around the country. I'm ministering on
Speaker 8: the weekends and doing counseling and different stuff. I'm trying
Speaker 8: to be what I needed at thirty years old to
Speaker 8: a lot of people in this country and so helping
Speaker 8: them understand the importance of integrity and character when you're
Speaker 8: in leadership positions. When that that's political. But they had
Speaker 8: the law firm, the medical practice, or in business, and
Speaker 8: so that's what I now. I have a new wife
Speaker 8: and three new kids too, said, I have a thirteen
Speaker 8: year old, a two year old, and a one year old,
Speaker 8: so I have them from twenty eight to one.
Speaker 3: Man, you're staying busy.
Speaker 2: Quick break right back more with Alice Marie Johnson Kwame
Speaker 2: Killpatrick both commuted pardon Donald J.
Speaker 3: Trump.
Speaker 2: Of course, the whole issue of criminal justice reform is
Speaker 2: not one that's been discussed and not one that Democrats
Speaker 2: ever want to talk about because they've done nothing on
Speaker 2: the issue, and Donald Trump actually did.
Speaker 3: Quick break right back, will.
Speaker 2: Continue on the other side with Alicebury Johnson and Kwame Kilpatrick.
Speaker 2: I we continue now with Alicebury Johnson. Remember she had
Speaker 2: a life sentence and Donald Trump set her free because
Speaker 2: of criminal justice reform. Kalmy Killpatrick was facing twenty eight
Speaker 2: years in jail, and just on the eve of what
Speaker 2: would have would have been eight years in jail, Donald
Speaker 2: Trump commuted his sentence. Alicebury Johnson, you've stayed in touch
Speaker 2: with President Trump, and if he gets re elected, I
Speaker 2: know for a fact that he's gonna want to go
Speaker 2: to you and have you do what you started to
Speaker 2: do towards the end of his term, which is to
Speaker 2: find people in jail there that deserve pardons, like people
Speaker 2: like yourself and Kwame, that have changed their lives around,
Speaker 2: and give him a second chance. And that's a big
Speaker 2: part of his agenda. Never gets talked about, but it's true.
Speaker 7: Seohn, what President Trump has done. He is not a
Speaker 7: person that just has ideas. All I've heard is ideals
Speaker 7: and dreams. He has solid policies that he's standing on.
Speaker 7: I'm not supporting. I'm not endorsing him because he set
Speaker 7: me free. I'm endorsing him because he is the best
Speaker 7: leader for this nation. We've already had one thousand, three
Speaker 7: hundred and seventy days of a puppet administration of a puppet.
Speaker 2: Pros I'm not interrupting you because I don't want to
Speaker 2: hear you speak. I'm going to pick up this point
Speaker 2: on the other side. I do have the constraints of time.
Speaker 2: Stay right there, we'll come back. We'll continue final moments
Speaker 2: with Alice, Marie Johnson, Kwame Kilpatrick, and then we'll hit
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Speaker 2: criminal justice reform and two people that benefited from Donald
Speaker 2: Trump being president or Aliceburray Johnson life sentence for one offense.
Speaker 2: It was a drug offense and amazingly she never thought
Speaker 2: she'd get out of prison, and now Donald Trump has well.
Speaker 2: When he was president, tapped her to take on the
Speaker 2: role of finding people that have changed their lives around
Speaker 2: dramatically in prison that might deserve a second chance. Also
Speaker 2: with US former Detroit mayor Juame Kilpatrick, he had been
Speaker 2: sentenced to twenty eight years in jail, was on the
Speaker 2: verge of meeting his eighth anniversary and found out Donald
Speaker 2: Trump commuted his sentence. Aliceburry Johnson, So let's go back
Speaker 2: to maybe what role you might take on if Donald
Speaker 2: Trump is able to pull this election off, and I
Speaker 2: hope he is and he wins this election, he will
Speaker 2: well from your lips, from your lips to God's ears,
Speaker 2: let's hope. But you've stayed in touch with President Trump,
Speaker 2: and you have had discussions with him, and I've had
Speaker 2: discussions with him about you and about what role you
Speaker 2: might play in finding those people maybe that were sentenced unfairly,
Speaker 2: maybe that suffered injustices at the hands of I don't
Speaker 2: know how prosecutors that were overly aggressive and unfair, or
Speaker 2: maybe they just changed their heart and their lives around,
Speaker 2: and you would help him in that regard. Tell us
Speaker 2: what maybe you might be doing in the future.
Speaker 7: Well, I would be very honored, Sean, to have President
Speaker 7: Trump find these deserving individuals. Again. I had the honor
Speaker 7: of sitting before him in the Oval office bringing cases.
Speaker 7: In fact, he asked me to. He said, Alice, I
Speaker 7: know there's other people who deserve their freedom like you do.
Speaker 7: He said, how many do you think it is? I
Speaker 7: made this big gesture that was too big to even name,
Speaker 7: and he gave me the opportunity to talk to him
Speaker 7: about these people, to bring their cases to him. I
Speaker 7: sent over one hundred clemency petitions into the White House
Speaker 7: and almost we were able to help well, actually I
Speaker 7: was able to help almost fifty people get a second
Speaker 7: chance in life. And I want to continue that work.
Speaker 7: I know he is a fair man. He is one
Speaker 7: who listens. He's one who's concerned not only about the
Speaker 7: individual but for the safety of communities. That's a big consideration.
Speaker 7: He's just not opening the prison doors and saying go home.
Speaker 7: He's carefully considering the individuals who are brought before him.
Speaker 7: So it will be a great honor to work in
Speaker 7: that capacity again to help President Trump. So I'm looking
Speaker 7: forward to his second term in office.
Speaker 2: And what about you, Kawamy, have you ever thought about
Speaker 2: maybe joining forces with Alice Marie Johnson and and being
Speaker 2: a part of that work. I'm sure in the course
Speaker 2: of your time you spent a lot of time in
Speaker 2: prison that you probably ran into people that you thought, hey,
Speaker 2: they they were impressive in terms of their ability to
Speaker 2: change their life around, or were there unfairly yeah.
Speaker 8: You know where there are two women the tc A
Speaker 8: Kirpatrick and Alice Johnson. I do whatever they tell me, Sean,
Speaker 8: So it's just just one of those people. But the
Speaker 8: other part of that is that sentiment is not only
Speaker 8: within prison walls. I'm born and raised in Detroit, right
Speaker 8: in the neighborhood, and I've been doing everything I can
Speaker 8: in Detroit and throughout Michigan. I've been speaking at a
Speaker 8: lot of different events, and whenever I'm called, I go
Speaker 8: because I want people to not be misguided by what
Speaker 8: I used to do on the Democratic side. I ran
Speaker 8: the Camp statewide campaign for the Democrats from the nineties.
Speaker 8: I'm listening to the warmed over nineteen ninety eight stuff
Speaker 8: being spoken now by the VP. It's all DLC, DNC stuff, clintseduff,
Speaker 8: you know, middle class tax cuts, small business loans. I mean,
Speaker 8: this stuff has been talked about forever, and they've been
Speaker 8: hearing it forever and not receiving any benefit from any
Speaker 8: of it. And so I've been wanting people to understand
Speaker 8: what this is about and what To the credit of
Speaker 8: President Trump, he just says it like it is and
Speaker 8: people take them or leave them. But black men in particular, Well,
Speaker 8: I'm gonna just go up beyond that. Detroit's all working people,
Speaker 8: people that work in plans and entrepreneur street entrepreneurship in
Speaker 8: terms of barbershops, beauty shops, real estate development, construction. People
Speaker 8: like to hear straight talking. He's been doing that, and
Speaker 8: so when I show up, my job has become a
Speaker 8: lot easier to convince people that they need to make
Speaker 8: the extra, just one more little energy step to vote
Speaker 8: for him, because a lot of people are already talking
Speaker 8: about sending it out, and I'm trying to move people
Speaker 8: to the polls because I think it's very important, not
Speaker 8: just for Detroit and not just for Michigan, but for America.
Speaker 8: You know, I did a speech and you said that
Speaker 8: I was on the airwaves. I'm on airways and in
Speaker 8: Georgia and Louisiana and Michigan. And what I said in
Speaker 8: that speech is I need Trump in the room. I
Speaker 8: want him in the room when Vadimin Putin shows up.
Speaker 8: I want him in the room, when Shay from China
Speaker 8: shows up. I want him in the room when North
Speaker 8: Korea shows up to the meeting. And I can't imagine
Speaker 8: having the vice president being our leader, our spokesperson, our
Speaker 8: person at the table with all the issues on the
Speaker 8: table in the room for us, And so I asked
Speaker 8: men especially and all women to think about that. You know,
Speaker 8: this is not about man.
Speaker 2: Let me ask both of you, then, why do you
Speaker 2: think that there has been a shift at least in
Speaker 2: the polling of minorities in our country? Why is it
Speaker 2: this mantra every two years four years election cycle and
Speaker 2: now it's it's gone so off the rails.
Speaker 3: Kwame?
Speaker 2: You know Trump is he got compared to let's Mussolini
Speaker 2: and Hitler and Stalin all in one in one comment.
Speaker 2: Then of course he's going to come after African American
Speaker 2: men and women, which he's not going to do. He's
Speaker 2: going to use the military against citizens and take people
Speaker 2: off the air. He's not going to do. But the
Speaker 2: fear mongering happens. But it's never been this bad. And
Speaker 2: it also tells me that they've run out of arguments.
Speaker 2: And that's their whole closing argument is Donald Trump is bad, evil, horrible,
Speaker 2: Nazi and fascist and the racist.
Speaker 8: You know, as Hollywood has gone, you know, the scary
Speaker 8: movies from the nineteen sixties, like Psycho, they just weren't
Speaker 8: as scary as Freddy Krueger and Jason and the ones.
Speaker 8: Now they weren't as scary as those. Every four years
Speaker 8: you got to scare people a little bit more than
Speaker 8: you did before. And what we're seeing now is it's
Speaker 8: just not working. It's really not working. It works if
Speaker 8: you're targeting the sick demology of some people, but it's
Speaker 8: not working. And that's why you're seeing people, you know,
Speaker 8: having their own thoughts in their own mind about this
Speaker 8: whole political process. And and I think it started when
Speaker 8: we were there. You talked about cities. You know, the
Speaker 8: Democrats have have all. I was a Democrat engaging a Democrat,
Speaker 8: the Democratic Party, Democratic president has it never worked. When
Speaker 8: I engaged George Bush, we got a new riverfront done
Speaker 8: that we've been talking about doing for thirty years. We
Speaker 8: got a new downtown done. We we well, let me
Speaker 8: ask you this, you do.
Speaker 3: It was Barack Obama president when you went to jail, or.
Speaker 8: No, he was president. He sent the prosecutor in there
Speaker 8: to prosecute me. He sent he uh okayed all of
Speaker 8: the reco allegations, and every lawyer from California to New York,
Speaker 8: New Jersey, from Texas all the way to Michigan. It
Speaker 8: looked at my case said this is ridiculous. And when
Speaker 8: it got to Alice Johnson and Jerry Kushner and the
Speaker 8: President of the United States, they said, this is ridiculous.
Speaker 8: And you know, the over sentence and the over uh,
Speaker 8: you know, over everything just malicious and so prosecution, which
Speaker 8: I see the President going through himself now. And they
Speaker 8: said this is ridiculous, and he gave me my freedom.
Speaker 8: So I think people are tired of rhetoric. I think
Speaker 8: they're tired of people trying to scare them. They want
Speaker 8: to hear the straight story. When Donald Trump comes to
Speaker 8: town and he talks about an entrepreneur opportunity, he's not
Speaker 8: trying to be black. What he's trying to do is
Speaker 8: be Donald Trump talking to you about what I can
Speaker 8: do in my position to be able to help you
Speaker 8: get more access to business, more access to capital, and
Speaker 8: improve your tax structure so you make some money. That's
Speaker 8: what black folks want to hear. It's just like this
Speaker 8: Black America versus No. We want to hear the same
Speaker 8: thing that you're telling to know that you're saying in
Speaker 8: the suburban communities, what you're saying to business people all
Speaker 8: over the country, and I think Donald Trump understands that
Speaker 8: he's not changing the way he talks. He's not trying
Speaker 8: to be cool. He's being Donald Trump. And that's what's
Speaker 8: resonating around the country. Now. When you get Trump, you're
Speaker 8: going to get sometimes when he says something, Oh, that
Speaker 8: hurt a little bit, But I think that that hells
Speaker 8: in comparison to all of the other things that he
Speaker 8: says about doing the job that he has to do
Speaker 8: as leader of the free world, as president of the
Speaker 8: United States.
Speaker 2: And you've endorsed him, have you got any any negative
Speaker 2: feedback on that?
Speaker 3: And Alsbury? Have you got any negative feedback? Kwame, I'll
Speaker 3: ask you first.
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, yeah, you know, I was you know, I
Speaker 8: was a big time Democrat. I was on the DNC.
Speaker 8: So when I endorsed him, I got negative feedback from everybody.
Speaker 8: You know, all of those tenets.
Speaker 2: And forget about the people and the party, what about
Speaker 2: everyday people.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 2: I saw President Trump with LJ in the barbershop, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, I love the conversation, you know, because I
Speaker 2: mean kind of barbershops are known for a lot of talking.
Speaker 8: I know what was like that when I grew up
Speaker 8: great question, because ninety six percent of the people in
Speaker 8: the city of Detroit on paper are Democrats. But when
Speaker 8: I'm in the barbershop every week in the city of Detroit,
Speaker 8: what I hear is, man, you gotta do what you
Speaker 8: gotta do. Hey, I'm leaning towards Trump too. I'm not
Speaker 8: mad at Donald Trump. So we're able to have a
Speaker 8: different kind of conversation away from the political ads and
Speaker 8: the political conversations where you just talk about real people
Speaker 8: to say it was better when he was president. I
Speaker 8: want a president that actually is going to leave. I'm
Speaker 8: kind of nervous about what China and Russia and North
Speaker 8: Korea are doing. I'll mean they at the table, so
Speaker 8: we hear real issues in the barbershop. You're right about
Speaker 8: that shop.
Speaker 7: Well, I'm the barbershop, but I travel a lot.
Speaker 2: By the way, you're in the beauty shop where you belong.
Speaker 2: You make us look like you know, you know? Is
Speaker 2: there no barbershop or beauty shops that can help call me.
Speaker 8: Or me no question?
Speaker 7: Well I can tell you this. I have people come
Speaker 7: up to me in the supermarket, in the airport, everywhere
Speaker 7: because my face is pretty recognizable down here, and they
Speaker 7: tell me that they are voting for Trump this time,
Speaker 7: and even even just recently. I have to tell you this,
Speaker 7: what antidote. This guy was just pushing at the airport,
Speaker 7: this big garbage band, just collecting the trash, and he
Speaker 7: he eased up beside me and he said, you're gonna happen.
Speaker 7: He said, you're gonna help it, because that's my guy.
Speaker 7: He said, I didn't vote for him in twenty twenty,
Speaker 7: and look at what I'm doing right now. He started
Speaker 7: telling me about the job he lost and what he
Speaker 7: had to do now because of his company had to
Speaker 7: lay off so many people. So every day, when it
Speaker 7: starts hitting your pocketbooks, when it starts hitting your wallet,
Speaker 7: then you start thinking different. People are not afraid now
Speaker 7: to say that I'm voting Trump. I've seen more Trump hats,
Speaker 7: more Trump t shirts. People are coming out in droves,
Speaker 7: and I think that we are going to win by
Speaker 7: a landslide, so that it will be no doubt of
Speaker 7: what the big that this is a big victory for us,
Speaker 7: for US Americans. So just sayday people. They talk to me,
Speaker 7: and I'm sure they talked to Kwami too. It's not
Speaker 7: the talk you think. Don't believe the polls. Don't believe
Speaker 7: what they're saying, that this is a big jaw for
Speaker 7: a ride to a new to history.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's just the tactics of calling them names like this,
Speaker 2: and it's just as low as you can go, as
Speaker 2: far as I'm concerned, and that's why so many people
Speaker 2: hate politics to begin with.
Speaker 3: You have a heart of gold.
Speaker 2: The sainthood I think in your future, Alice Marie Johnson,
Speaker 2: God bless you, Kwame. I'm so glad that you have
Speaker 2: rebuilt your life, and congratulations on your new family. I
Speaker 2: wish you both got speed and success, and appreciate all
Speaker 2: the time you gave me today. We did not expect
Speaker 2: to go those long, but I just you know, I
Speaker 2: find your stories fascinating and I wanted people to hear
Speaker 2: from both of you.
Speaker 3: Thank you both,