WEBVTT - Story of Second Chances - October 21st, Hour 3

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<v Speaker 1>Stay right here for our final news roundup and Information Overload.

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<v Speaker 2>All right News round Up in Information Overload hour toll free.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's on number. It's eight hundred and nine to four

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<v Speaker 2>one sean if you want to be a part of

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<v Speaker 2>the program. Fifteen days until an inflection point. I would

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<v Speaker 2>argue for this country, two weeks from today it'll be election,

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<v Speaker 2>even America. I think it's the most important tipping point

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<v Speaker 2>election in our lifetime. One thing that we now see

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<v Speaker 2>as a phenomenon is that Democrats are just freaking out

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<v Speaker 2>at every poll. We've gone over the poll numbers earlier

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<v Speaker 2>in the program today, over demographic breakdowns and how African Americans,

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<v Speaker 2>Hispanic Americans are moving towards Donald Trump in larger numbers

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<v Speaker 2>than anybody thought possible. And a lot of people forget

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump's record when it comes to minorities in America.

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<v Speaker 2>I've gone over the economic record more than any other.

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<v Speaker 2>The people that benefited the most for the first three

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<v Speaker 2>years just prior to the pandemic from Donald trump economic

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<v Speaker 2>policies by far, and that's measured by in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>income increases the reduction of poverty, were African Americans, Hispanic Americans,

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<v Speaker 2>Asian Americans, women in the workplace, and African American youth unemployment.

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<v Speaker 2>There was never a president that committed more money to

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<v Speaker 2>historically black universities and colleges than Donald J.

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<v Speaker 3>Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>There's never been a president that took seriously the issue

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<v Speaker 2>of disparate sentencing on which had been a source of

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<v Speaker 2>discussion in this country for decades than Donald Trump. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I think the scene that America probably remembers

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<v Speaker 2>the most is our friend who will join us in a minute.

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<v Speaker 2>Alice Marie Johnson proud to call her a friend to

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<v Speaker 2>this day. And she had a one time offense. He

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<v Speaker 2>had been in jail for twenty one years, and she

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<v Speaker 2>thought she would end up dying in jail and that

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<v Speaker 2>was the end of her life. And rather than becoming

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<v Speaker 2>bitter and angry, he ended up counseling young women that

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<v Speaker 2>would go to prison and basically help them in their

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<v Speaker 2>lives and help them rebuild their lives and get their

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<v Speaker 2>priorities in order so that they'd never come back. But

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<v Speaker 2>not an opportunity she thought would ever come away, but

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<v Speaker 2>thanks to Donald Trump, it did. Here's Kamala Harris addressing

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<v Speaker 2>over the weekend that there's a narrative about the kind

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<v Speaker 2>of support we're receiving from black men. And here's what

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<v Speaker 2>you said.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think some of the resistance of some men

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<v Speaker 1>black and white is misogynist? And are you proud to

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<v Speaker 1>see that most.

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<v Speaker 3>Americans, even even being.

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<v Speaker 1>Pold, have no problem supporting a woman at all. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm one that lived from Shirley to Kamalo in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of these campaigns.

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<v Speaker 3>That have an emotional reaction to.

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<v Speaker 4>You raising the plant of Shirle Chism because it is

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<v Speaker 4>on her broad shoulders that I stand and so many

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<v Speaker 4>of us stand, and we have come a long way.

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<v Speaker 3>To your point.

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<v Speaker 4>That being said, I think that you are absolutely right

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<v Speaker 4>that there is this narrative about what kind of support

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<v Speaker 4>we are receiving from black men that is just not

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<v Speaker 4>panning out in reality. In terms of when I go

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<v Speaker 4>to last night Atlanta and had I think ten thousand

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<v Speaker 4>people at a rally, I will also say this, rev.

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<v Speaker 4>I am very clear. I must earn earn the vote

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<v Speaker 4>of everyone, regardless of their race or gender. And what

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<v Speaker 4>can be frustrating sometimes is to have journalists ask me

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<v Speaker 4>this question as though.

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<v Speaker 3>One should assume that I would.

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<v Speaker 4>Just be able to take for granted the vote of

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<v Speaker 4>black men.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's actually.

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<v Speaker 4>An uninformed perspective, because why would black men be any

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<v Speaker 4>different than any other demographic voter. They expect that you

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<v Speaker 4>earn their vote.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, let's go back to her surrogate Barack Obama and

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<v Speaker 2>lecturing African American men on the issue of quote the

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<v Speaker 2>Brothers not supporting Kamala Harris and suggesting that it was

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<v Speaker 2>misogyny and not wanting a woman elected president.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen, see the.

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<v Speaker 5>Same kinds of energy and turn out in all quarters,

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<v Speaker 5>how our data lags and securities as you saw when

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<v Speaker 5>I was wrong. Now, I also want to say that

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<v Speaker 5>it seems to be more pronounced with the Brothers.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm speeding you men directly as the Parliament makes me ma. Well,

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<v Speaker 6>you just aren't feeling the idea of having a when

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<v Speaker 6>as president, and you're coming up with other alternatives, and I'm.

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<v Speaker 7>The reasons for him.

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<v Speaker 6>So now you're thinking about sitting out or even supporting

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<v Speaker 6>somebody who has a history of ptegrating you because you'reunited.

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<v Speaker 6>That's a sound striker, because that's why being a mandas

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<v Speaker 6>putting women down.

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<v Speaker 8>That's so exciting.

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<v Speaker 2>The Republicans are racist, They're sexist, misogynistic, homophobic, xenophobic, is Lamophobic, transphobic.

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<v Speaker 2>They want dirty air and water, and they want to

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<v Speaker 2>take away Grandma and Grandpa's Social Security and Medicare and

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<v Speaker 2>throw them over a cliff. I tell you, I told

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<v Speaker 2>you that that would be what they're reduced to by

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<v Speaker 2>the end of this campaign. And here we are anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>My dear friend Alice Maurie Johnson is back with us.

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<v Speaker 2>Kwame Kilpatrick is also back with us. He's the Detroit mayor,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, himself now on the Michigan airwaves and

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<v Speaker 2>was freed from prison, both of them by former President

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<v Speaker 2>Donald J. Trump. Welcome back. We appreciate your time. Alice, Maria,

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<v Speaker 2>I love you. How are you.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm proud to say that we are friends on air

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<v Speaker 3>and off air.

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<v Speaker 7>Thank you, Sean. I'm happy to be on here again,

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<v Speaker 7>and you are my dear friend, my dear beloved friend,

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<v Speaker 7>and I'm happy to be on here and add my

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<v Speaker 7>voice to the voice of sense. First of all, in

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<v Speaker 7>case your listeners didn't know this, I'm a one hundred

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<v Speaker 7>percent woman and black Americans, and I for one am

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<v Speaker 7>sick and tired of all of the gender and racial

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<v Speaker 7>pandering that I'm hearing taking place. You know Sean. They

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<v Speaker 7>speak of the first woman of color as president, they

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<v Speaker 7>speak of black men having a problem voting for a woman.

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<v Speaker 7>That is not the issue, it's the candidate. We don't

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<v Speaker 7>want our first to be the worst, and that's what

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<v Speaker 7>we'd end up with if we select Kamala Harris. The

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<v Speaker 7>worst in history is what she would be if she's elected.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to remind people of your story. You

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<v Speaker 2>never thought that you had one time offender and you

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<v Speaker 2>got a life prison sentence, no hope.

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<v Speaker 7>Years, no hope until Donald Trump, who actually read my story.

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<v Speaker 7>I was denied three times under the Obama administration. And

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<v Speaker 7>when Donald Trump saw my case, it wasn't the fact

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<v Speaker 7>that it was Kim Kardashian, a celebrity. It was the

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<v Speaker 7>fact that he looked at me as a human being,

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<v Speaker 7>and he had mercy and compassion upon him. And not

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<v Speaker 7>only did he look at myself, but he allowed me

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<v Speaker 7>to bring other petitions of worthy candidates before him. You

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<v Speaker 7>got one one of those people on the phone right now,

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<v Speaker 7>and that's Kwanmee kill Patrick. I took his petition before

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<v Speaker 7>President Trump, and he did not look He looked at them.

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<v Speaker 7>He looked at the man who kwame is today. And

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<v Speaker 7>I love for Kwame to speak for himself too, because

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<v Speaker 7>we both, both of our lives were saved by President Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Kwame's kill. Patrick. Great to have you back. We

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate you being with us. Remind people of your story

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<v Speaker 2>the mayor of Detroit. How long were you sentenced for?

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<v Speaker 3>Again?

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<v Speaker 8>I was the mayor of Detroit. But before that, I

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<v Speaker 8>was the Democratic leader and the state Legislature in Michigan.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, I ran for the State House at twenty five,

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<v Speaker 8>I was leader by thirty. I was you know, on

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<v Speaker 8>the DLC, the DNC, I was on both of those

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<v Speaker 8>executive boards. I was like a Clinton Democrat, if you will,

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<v Speaker 8>traveled on Air Force one and around the world with

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<v Speaker 8>Bill Clinton, over to London, and you know, I was

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<v Speaker 8>involved in that. My mother was the United States congresswoman.

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<v Speaker 8>She was far to the left of me, one of

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<v Speaker 8>those liberation Democrats, my hero. But it's just a very

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<v Speaker 8>interesting background. Then I got to be mayor. I ran

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<v Speaker 8>at thirty one, at thirty one and was mayor for

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<v Speaker 8>seven years. And then my gift, my anointing, as you will, Sean,

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<v Speaker 8>it took me to a place that my character, integrity

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<v Speaker 8>didn't grow at the same place at the same pace,

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<v Speaker 8>and so I fell from that position found myself in

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<v Speaker 8>a prison sentenced to twenty eight years. I had thirty

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<v Speaker 8>four counts. When I hear that thirty four over and

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<v Speaker 8>over about the President, it's like a wicked reminder to

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<v Speaker 8>me of what the system can do when they have

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<v Speaker 8>you in their grips. And so I ended up being

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<v Speaker 8>charged and then being convicted and went to that on

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<v Speaker 8>that sentence, and then seven years. About thirty nine days

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<v Speaker 8>short from eight years in prison, I was sitting in

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<v Speaker 8>a solitary confinement for about two hundred and some days

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<v Speaker 8>and the warden came to the door and said, we're

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<v Speaker 8>gonna get you out of here quick and quiet. You

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<v Speaker 8>received a commutation from the president. It's true. I hit

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<v Speaker 8>the floor, thank God, and got up and walked out

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<v Speaker 8>the front door. And since that time, I've been looking

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<v Speaker 8>for Donald Trump. I gotta find, I have to find.

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<v Speaker 8>I never met Donald Trump. I never had a conversation

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<v Speaker 8>with Donald Trump. And finally I did make it to

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<v Speaker 8>meet with him on just a crazy circumstances, seeing one

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<v Speaker 8>of his good friends in Detroit, and we had that meeting.

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<v Speaker 8>I got a chance to thank him, and this is

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<v Speaker 8>why I want people to know. Donald Trump has never

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<v Speaker 8>asked me to do it or say anything. As a

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<v Speaker 8>matter of fact, in that meeting, I learned so much

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<v Speaker 8>about demand Donald Trump. We were together all day, from

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<v Speaker 8>about ten to eleven in the morning, all the way

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<v Speaker 8>to about eleven o'clock at night. We were at the golf

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<v Speaker 8>course early then Marlago that evening, and what really floored

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<v Speaker 8>me was how intuitive he is, the questions that he asked,

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<v Speaker 8>how he yearned for information knowledge, and so I was

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<v Speaker 8>able to break down the Michigan e lectory, what it is,

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<v Speaker 8>what happened. He wanted to hear about how in one

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<v Speaker 8>county you have a thirty thousand vote swing, and I

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<v Speaker 8>explained that to him. But it was a chance for

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<v Speaker 8>me to get to know from myself the man Donald

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<v Speaker 8>Trump and the president Donald Trump, not just the person

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<v Speaker 8>who most of the media try to make him out

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<v Speaker 8>to be on television.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you're broadcasting and tell me about your life now

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<v Speaker 2>and how you're a different person.

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<v Speaker 8>Well in prison, after being mad at everybody shine for

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<v Speaker 8>about a year and a half and being floored I

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<v Speaker 8>had at that time, I had three children from my

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<v Speaker 8>first marriage of twenty four years my sons were totally

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<v Speaker 8>upset with me and upset with life, and they dropped

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<v Speaker 8>out of school and all kinds of stuff happened for

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<v Speaker 8>a time, and I went to the chapel one day

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<v Speaker 8>and met this guy from Ukon, Oklahoma, Bruce Smith. And

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<v Speaker 8>I'm sure he's listening to you. That guy loves you,

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<v Speaker 8>and so I had to get his name. But he

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<v Speaker 8>asked me to I have a personal relationship with the

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<v Speaker 8>Lord Jesus Christ, and I told him I did. And

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<v Speaker 8>from that place we started to move together. And after

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<v Speaker 8>that I started teaching Bible studies. I did all the courses.

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<v Speaker 8>Then I started preaching in the chapel. So when I

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<v Speaker 8>got out, my wife and I'm my new wife. We

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<v Speaker 8>founded a ministry in Georgia. We have now moved our

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<v Speaker 8>ministry to Detroit, just outside of Detroit, and that's what

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<v Speaker 8>I'm doing. I'm speaking around the country. I'm ministering on

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<v Speaker 8>the weekends and doing counseling and different stuff. I'm trying

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<v Speaker 8>to be what I needed at thirty years old to

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<v Speaker 8>a lot of people in this country and so helping

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<v Speaker 8>them understand the importance of integrity and character when you're

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<v Speaker 8>in leadership positions. When that that's political. But they had

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<v Speaker 8>the law firm, the medical practice, or in business, and

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<v Speaker 8>so that's what I now. I have a new wife

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<v Speaker 8>and three new kids too, said, I have a thirteen

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<v Speaker 8>year old, a two year old, and a one year old,

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<v Speaker 8>so I have them from twenty eight to one.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, you're staying busy.

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<v Speaker 2>Quick break right back more with Alice Marie Johnson Kwame

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<v Speaker 2>Killpatrick both commuted pardon Donald J.

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<v Speaker 3>Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, the whole issue of criminal justice reform is

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<v Speaker 2>not one that's been discussed and not one that Democrats

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<v Speaker 2>ever want to talk about because they've done nothing on

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<v Speaker 2>the issue, and Donald Trump actually did.

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<v Speaker 3>Quick break right back, will.

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<v Speaker 2>Continue on the other side with Alicebury Johnson and Kwame Kilpatrick.

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<v Speaker 2>I we continue now with Alicebury Johnson. Remember she had

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<v Speaker 2>a life sentence and Donald Trump set her free because

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<v Speaker 2>of criminal justice reform. Kalmy Killpatrick was facing twenty eight

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<v Speaker 2>years in jail, and just on the eve of what

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<v Speaker 2>would have would have been eight years in jail, Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump commuted his sentence. Alicebury Johnson, you've stayed in touch

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<v Speaker 2>with President Trump, and if he gets re elected, I

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<v Speaker 2>know for a fact that he's gonna want to go

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<v Speaker 2>to you and have you do what you started to

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<v Speaker 2>do towards the end of his term, which is to

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<v Speaker 2>find people in jail there that deserve pardons, like people

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<v Speaker 2>like yourself and Kwame, that have changed their lives around,

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<v Speaker 2>and give him a second chance. And that's a big

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<v Speaker 2>part of his agenda. Never gets talked about, but it's true.

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<v Speaker 7>Seohn, what President Trump has done. He is not a

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<v Speaker 7>person that just has ideas. All I've heard is ideals

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<v Speaker 7>and dreams. He has solid policies that he's standing on.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm not supporting. I'm not endorsing him because he set

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<v Speaker 7>me free. I'm endorsing him because he is the best

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<v Speaker 7>leader for this nation. We've already had one thousand, three

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<v Speaker 7>hundred and seventy days of a puppet administration of a puppet.

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<v Speaker 2>Pros I'm not interrupting you because I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>hear you speak. I'm going to pick up this point

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<v Speaker 2>on the other side. I do have the constraints of time.

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<v Speaker 2>Stay right there, we'll come back. We'll continue final moments

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<v Speaker 2>a forefront war and that they were viciously attacked by

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<v Speaker 2>That SUPPORTIFCJ dot org. Today, all right, we're talking about

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<v Speaker 2>criminal justice reform and two people that benefited from Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump being president or Aliceburray Johnson life sentence for one offense.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a drug offense and amazingly she never thought

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<v Speaker 2>she'd get out of prison, and now Donald Trump has well.

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<v Speaker 2>When he was president, tapped her to take on the

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<v Speaker 2>role of finding people that have changed their lives around

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<v Speaker 2>dramatically in prison that might deserve a second chance. Also

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<v Speaker 2>with US former Detroit mayor Juame Kilpatrick, he had been

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<v Speaker 2>sentenced to twenty eight years in jail, was on the

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<v Speaker 2>verge of meeting his eighth anniversary and found out Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump commuted his sentence. Aliceburry Johnson, So let's go back

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<v Speaker 2>to maybe what role you might take on if Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump is able to pull this election off, and I

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<v Speaker 2>hope he is and he wins this election, he will

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<v Speaker 2>well from your lips, from your lips to God's ears,

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<v Speaker 2>let's hope. But you've stayed in touch with President Trump,

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<v Speaker 2>and you have had discussions with him, and I've had

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<v Speaker 2>discussions with him about you and about what role you

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<v Speaker 2>might play in finding those people maybe that were sentenced unfairly,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe that suffered injustices at the hands of I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know how prosecutors that were overly aggressive and unfair, or

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<v Speaker 2>maybe they just changed their heart and their lives around,

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<v Speaker 2>and you would help him in that regard. Tell us

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<v Speaker 2>what maybe you might be doing in the future.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I would be very honored, Sean, to have President

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<v Speaker 7>Trump find these deserving individuals. Again. I had the honor

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<v Speaker 7>of sitting before him in the Oval office bringing cases.

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<v Speaker 7>In fact, he asked me to. He said, Alice, I

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<v Speaker 7>know there's other people who deserve their freedom like you do.

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<v Speaker 7>He said, how many do you think it is? I

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<v Speaker 7>made this big gesture that was too big to even name,

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<v Speaker 7>and he gave me the opportunity to talk to him

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<v Speaker 7>about these people, to bring their cases to him. I

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<v Speaker 7>sent over one hundred clemency petitions into the White House

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<v Speaker 7>and almost we were able to help well, actually I

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<v Speaker 7>was able to help almost fifty people get a second

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<v Speaker 7>chance in life. And I want to continue that work.

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<v Speaker 7>I know he is a fair man. He is one

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<v Speaker 7>who listens. He's one who's concerned not only about the

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<v Speaker 7>individual but for the safety of communities. That's a big consideration.

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<v Speaker 7>He's just not opening the prison doors and saying go home.

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<v Speaker 7>He's carefully considering the individuals who are brought before him.

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<v Speaker 7>So it will be a great honor to work in

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<v Speaker 7>that capacity again to help President Trump. So I'm looking

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<v Speaker 7>forward to his second term in office.

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<v Speaker 2>And what about you, Kawamy, have you ever thought about

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<v Speaker 2>maybe joining forces with Alice Marie Johnson and and being

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<v Speaker 2>a part of that work. I'm sure in the course

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<v Speaker 2>of your time you spent a lot of time in

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<v Speaker 2>prison that you probably ran into people that you thought, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>they they were impressive in terms of their ability to

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<v Speaker 2>change their life around, or were there unfairly yeah.

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<v Speaker 8>You know where there are two women the tc A

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<v Speaker 8>Kirpatrick and Alice Johnson. I do whatever they tell me, Sean,

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<v Speaker 8>So it's just just one of those people. But the

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<v Speaker 8>other part of that is that sentiment is not only

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<v Speaker 8>within prison walls. I'm born and raised in Detroit, right

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<v Speaker 8>in the neighborhood, and I've been doing everything I can

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<v Speaker 8>in Detroit and throughout Michigan. I've been speaking at a

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<v Speaker 8>lot of different events, and whenever I'm called, I go

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<v Speaker 8>because I want people to not be misguided by what

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<v Speaker 8>I used to do on the Democratic side. I ran

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<v Speaker 8>the Camp statewide campaign for the Democrats from the nineties.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm listening to the warmed over nineteen ninety eight stuff

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<v Speaker 8>being spoken now by the VP. It's all DLC, DNC stuff, clintseduff,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, middle class tax cuts, small business loans. I mean,

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<v Speaker 8>this stuff has been talked about forever, and they've been

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<v Speaker 8>hearing it forever and not receiving any benefit from any

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<v Speaker 8>of it. And so I've been wanting people to understand

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<v Speaker 8>what this is about and what To the credit of

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<v Speaker 8>President Trump, he just says it like it is and

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<v Speaker 8>people take them or leave them. But black men in particular, Well,

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<v Speaker 8>I'm gonna just go up beyond that. Detroit's all working people,

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<v Speaker 8>people that work in plans and entrepreneur street entrepreneurship in

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<v Speaker 8>terms of barbershops, beauty shops, real estate development, construction. People

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<v Speaker 8>like to hear straight talking. He's been doing that, and

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<v Speaker 8>so when I show up, my job has become a

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<v Speaker 8>lot easier to convince people that they need to make

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<v Speaker 8>the extra, just one more little energy step to vote

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<v Speaker 8>for him, because a lot of people are already talking

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<v Speaker 8>about sending it out, and I'm trying to move people

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<v Speaker 8>to the polls because I think it's very important, not

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<v Speaker 8>just for Detroit and not just for Michigan, but for America.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, I did a speech and you said that

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<v Speaker 8>I was on the airwaves. I'm on airways and in

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<v Speaker 8>Georgia and Louisiana and Michigan. And what I said in

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<v Speaker 8>that speech is I need Trump in the room. I

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<v Speaker 8>want him in the room when Vadimin Putin shows up.

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<v Speaker 8>I want him in the room, when Shay from China

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<v Speaker 8>shows up. I want him in the room when North

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<v Speaker 8>Korea shows up to the meeting. And I can't imagine

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<v Speaker 8>having the vice president being our leader, our spokesperson, our

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<v Speaker 8>person at the table with all the issues on the

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<v Speaker 8>table in the room for us, And so I asked

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<v Speaker 8>men especially and all women to think about that. You know,

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<v Speaker 8>this is not about man.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me ask both of you, then, why do you

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<v Speaker 2>think that there has been a shift at least in

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<v Speaker 2>the polling of minorities in our country? Why is it

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<v Speaker 2>this mantra every two years four years election cycle and

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<v Speaker 2>now it's it's gone so off the rails.

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<v Speaker 3>Kwame?

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<v Speaker 2>You know Trump is he got compared to let's Mussolini

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<v Speaker 2>and Hitler and Stalin all in one in one comment.

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<v Speaker 2>Then of course he's going to come after African American

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<v Speaker 2>men and women, which he's not going to do. He's

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<v Speaker 2>going to use the military against citizens and take people

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<v Speaker 2>off the air. He's not going to do. But the

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<v Speaker 2>fear mongering happens. But it's never been this bad. And

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<v Speaker 2>it also tells me that they've run out of arguments.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's their whole closing argument is Donald Trump is bad, evil, horrible,

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<v Speaker 2>Nazi and fascist and the racist.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, as Hollywood has gone, you know, the scary

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<v Speaker 8>movies from the nineteen sixties, like Psycho, they just weren't

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<v Speaker 8>as scary as Freddy Krueger and Jason and the ones.

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<v Speaker 8>Now they weren't as scary as those. Every four years

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<v Speaker 8>you got to scare people a little bit more than

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<v Speaker 8>you did before. And what we're seeing now is it's

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<v Speaker 8>just not working. It's really not working. It works if

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<v Speaker 8>you're targeting the sick demology of some people, but it's

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<v Speaker 8>not working. And that's why you're seeing people, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>having their own thoughts in their own mind about this

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<v Speaker 8>whole political process. And and I think it started when

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<v Speaker 8>we were there. You talked about cities. You know, the

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<v Speaker 8>Democrats have have all. I was a Democrat engaging a Democrat,

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<v Speaker 8>the Democratic Party, Democratic president has it never worked. When

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<v Speaker 8>I engaged George Bush, we got a new riverfront done

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<v Speaker 8>that we've been talking about doing for thirty years. We

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<v Speaker 8>got a new downtown done. We we well, let me

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<v Speaker 8>ask you this, you do.

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<v Speaker 3>It was Barack Obama president when you went to jail, or.

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<v Speaker 8>No, he was president. He sent the prosecutor in there

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<v Speaker 8>to prosecute me. He sent he uh okayed all of

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<v Speaker 8>the reco allegations, and every lawyer from California to New York,

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<v Speaker 8>New Jersey, from Texas all the way to Michigan. It

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<v Speaker 8>looked at my case said this is ridiculous. And when

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<v Speaker 8>it got to Alice Johnson and Jerry Kushner and the

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<v Speaker 8>President of the United States, they said, this is ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 8>And you know, the over sentence and the over uh,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, over everything just malicious and so prosecution, which

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<v Speaker 8>I see the President going through himself now. And they

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<v Speaker 8>said this is ridiculous, and he gave me my freedom.

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<v Speaker 8>So I think people are tired of rhetoric. I think

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<v Speaker 8>they're tired of people trying to scare them. They want

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<v Speaker 8>to hear the straight story. When Donald Trump comes to

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<v Speaker 8>town and he talks about an entrepreneur opportunity, he's not

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<v Speaker 8>trying to be black. What he's trying to do is

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<v Speaker 8>be Donald Trump talking to you about what I can

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<v Speaker 8>do in my position to be able to help you

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<v Speaker 8>get more access to business, more access to capital, and

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<v Speaker 8>improve your tax structure so you make some money. That's

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<v Speaker 8>what black folks want to hear. It's just like this

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<v Speaker 8>Black America versus No. We want to hear the same

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<v Speaker 8>thing that you're telling to know that you're saying in

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<v Speaker 8>the suburban communities, what you're saying to business people all

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<v Speaker 8>over the country, and I think Donald Trump understands that

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<v Speaker 8>he's not changing the way he talks. He's not trying

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<v Speaker 8>to be cool. He's being Donald Trump. And that's what's

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<v Speaker 8>resonating around the country. Now. When you get Trump, you're

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<v Speaker 8>going to get sometimes when he says something, Oh, that

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<v Speaker 8>hurt a little bit, But I think that that hells

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<v Speaker 8>in comparison to all of the other things that he

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<v Speaker 8>says about doing the job that he has to do

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<v Speaker 8>as leader of the free world, as president of the

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<v Speaker 8>United States.

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<v Speaker 2>And you've endorsed him, have you got any any negative

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<v Speaker 2>feedback on that?

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<v Speaker 3>And Alsbury? Have you got any negative feedback? Kwame, I'll

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<v Speaker 3>ask you first.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh yeah, yeah, you know, I was you know, I

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<v Speaker 8>was a big time Democrat. I was on the DNC.

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<v Speaker 8>So when I endorsed him, I got negative feedback from everybody.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, all of those tenets.

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<v Speaker 2>And forget about the people and the party, what about

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<v Speaker 2>everyday people.

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<v Speaker 8>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw President Trump with LJ in the barbershop, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I love the conversation, you know, because I

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<v Speaker 2>mean kind of barbershops are known for a lot of talking.

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<v Speaker 8>I know what was like that when I grew up

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<v Speaker 8>great question, because ninety six percent of the people in

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<v Speaker 8>the city of Detroit on paper are Democrats. But when

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<v Speaker 8>I'm in the barbershop every week in the city of Detroit,

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<v Speaker 8>what I hear is, man, you gotta do what you

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<v Speaker 8>gotta do. Hey, I'm leaning towards Trump too. I'm not

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<v Speaker 8>mad at Donald Trump. So we're able to have a

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<v Speaker 8>different kind of conversation away from the political ads and

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<v Speaker 8>the political conversations where you just talk about real people

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<v Speaker 8>to say it was better when he was president. I

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<v Speaker 8>want a president that actually is going to leave. I'm

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<v Speaker 8>kind of nervous about what China and Russia and North

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<v Speaker 8>Korea are doing. I'll mean they at the table, so

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<v Speaker 8>we hear real issues in the barbershop. You're right about

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<v Speaker 8>that shop.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I'm the barbershop, but I travel a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, you're in the beauty shop where you belong.

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<v Speaker 2>You make us look like you know, you know? Is

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<v Speaker 2>there no barbershop or beauty shops that can help call me.

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<v Speaker 8>Or me no question?

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<v Speaker 7>Well I can tell you this. I have people come

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<v Speaker 7>up to me in the supermarket, in the airport, everywhere

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<v Speaker 7>because my face is pretty recognizable down here, and they

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<v Speaker 7>tell me that they are voting for Trump this time,

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<v Speaker 7>and even even just recently. I have to tell you this,

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<v Speaker 7>what antidote. This guy was just pushing at the airport,

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<v Speaker 7>this big garbage band, just collecting the trash, and he

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<v Speaker 7>he eased up beside me and he said, you're gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 7>He said, you're gonna help it, because that's my guy.

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<v Speaker 7>He said, I didn't vote for him in twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 7>and look at what I'm doing right now. He started

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<v Speaker 7>telling me about the job he lost and what he

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<v Speaker 7>had to do now because of his company had to

0:30:16.640 --> 0:30:19.520
<v Speaker 7>lay off so many people. So every day, when it

0:30:19.600 --> 0:30:23.680
<v Speaker 7>starts hitting your pocketbooks, when it starts hitting your wallet,

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<v Speaker 7>then you start thinking different. People are not afraid now

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<v Speaker 7>to say that I'm voting Trump. I've seen more Trump hats,

0:30:33.200 --> 0:30:38.160
<v Speaker 7>more Trump t shirts. People are coming out in droves,

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<v Speaker 7>and I think that we are going to win by

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<v Speaker 7>a landslide, so that it will be no doubt of

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<v Speaker 7>what the big that this is a big victory for us,

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<v Speaker 7>for US Americans. So just sayday people. They talk to me,

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<v Speaker 7>and I'm sure they talked to Kwami too. It's not

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<v Speaker 7>the talk you think. Don't believe the polls. Don't believe

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<v Speaker 7>what they're saying, that this is a big jaw for

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<v Speaker 7>a ride to a new to history.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, it's just the tactics of calling them names like this,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's just as low as you can go, as

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<v Speaker 2>far as I'm concerned, and that's why so many people

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<v Speaker 2>hate politics to begin with.

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<v Speaker 3>You have a heart of gold.

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<v Speaker 2>The sainthood I think in your future, Alice Marie Johnson,

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<v Speaker 2>God bless you, Kwame. I'm so glad that you have

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<v Speaker 2>rebuilt your life, and congratulations on your new family. I

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<v Speaker 2>wish you both got speed and success, and appreciate all

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<v Speaker 2>the time you gave me today. We did not expect

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<v Speaker 2>to go those long, but I just you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>find your stories fascinating and I wanted people to hear

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<v Speaker 2>from both of you.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you both,