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Speaker 2: Here's on number. It's eight hundred and nine to four

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Speaker 2: one sean if you want to be a part of

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Speaker 2: the program. Fifteen days until an inflection point. I would

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Speaker 2: argue for this country, two weeks from today it'll be election,

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Speaker 2: even America. I think it's the most important tipping point

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Speaker 2: election in our lifetime. One thing that we now see

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Speaker 2: as a phenomenon is that Democrats are just freaking out

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Speaker 2: at every poll. We've gone over the poll numbers earlier

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Speaker 2: in the program today, over demographic breakdowns and how African Americans,

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Speaker 2: Hispanic Americans are moving towards Donald Trump in larger numbers

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Speaker 2: than anybody thought possible. And a lot of people forget

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump's record when it comes to minorities in America.

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Speaker 2: I've gone over the economic record more than any other.

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Speaker 2: The people that benefited the most for the first three

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Speaker 2: years just prior to the pandemic from Donald trump economic

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Speaker 2: policies by far, and that's measured by in terms of

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Speaker 2: income increases the reduction of poverty, were African Americans, Hispanic Americans,

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Speaker 2: Asian Americans, women in the workplace, and African American youth unemployment.

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Speaker 2: There was never a president that committed more money to

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Speaker 2: historically black universities and colleges than Donald J.

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Speaker 3: Trump.

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Speaker 2: There's never been a president that took seriously the issue

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Speaker 2: of disparate sentencing on which had been a source of

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Speaker 2: discussion in this country for decades than Donald Trump. And

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Speaker 2: you know, I think the scene that America probably remembers

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Speaker 2: the most is our friend who will join us in a minute.

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Speaker 2: Alice Marie Johnson proud to call her a friend to

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Speaker 2: this day. And she had a one time offense. He

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Speaker 2: had been in jail for twenty one years, and she

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Speaker 2: bitter and angry, he ended up counseling young women that

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Speaker 2: priorities in order so that they'd never come back. But

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Speaker 2: not an opportunity she thought would ever come away, but

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Speaker 2: thanks to Donald Trump, it did. Here's Kamala Harris addressing

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Speaker 2: over the weekend that there's a narrative about the kind

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Speaker 2: of support we're receiving from black men. And here's what

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Speaker 1: Do you think some of the resistance of some men

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Speaker 3: Americans, even even being.

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Speaker 1: Pold, have no problem supporting a woman at all. And

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Speaker 1: I'm one that lived from Shirley to Kamalo in terms

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Speaker 3: That have an emotional reaction to.

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Speaker 4: You raising the plant of Shirle Chism because it is

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Speaker 4: on her broad shoulders that I stand and so many

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Speaker 4: of us stand, and we have come a long way.

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Speaker 3: To your point.

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Speaker 4: That being said, I think that you are absolutely right

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Speaker 4: that there is this narrative about what kind of support

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Speaker 4: we are receiving from black men that is just not

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Speaker 4: panning out in reality. In terms of when I go

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Speaker 4: to last night Atlanta and had I think ten thousand

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Speaker 4: I am very clear. I must earn earn the vote

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Speaker 4: of everyone, regardless of their race or gender. And what

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Speaker 4: can be frustrating sometimes is to have journalists ask me

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Speaker 3: One should assume that I would.

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Speaker 4: Just be able to take for granted the vote of

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Speaker 3: I think that's actually.

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Speaker 4: An uninformed perspective, because why would black men be any

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Speaker 2: Now, let's go back to her surrogate Barack Obama and

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Speaker 2: lecturing African American men on the issue of quote the

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Speaker 3: Listen, see the.

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Speaker 5: Same kinds of energy and turn out in all quarters,

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Speaker 5: how our data lags and securities as you saw when

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Speaker 5: I was wrong. Now, I also want to say that

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Speaker 5: it seems to be more pronounced with the Brothers.

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Speaker 6: I'm speeding you men directly as the Parliament makes me ma. Well,

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Speaker 6: you just aren't feeling the idea of having a when

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Speaker 7: The reasons for him.

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Speaker 6: So now you're thinking about sitting out or even supporting

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Speaker 6: That's a sound striker, because that's why being a mandas

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Speaker 8: That's so exciting.

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Speaker 2: The Republicans are racist, They're sexist, misogynistic, homophobic, xenophobic, is Lamophobic, transphobic.

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Speaker 2: They want dirty air and water, and they want to

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Speaker 2: take away Grandma and Grandpa's Social Security and Medicare and

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Speaker 2: throw them over a cliff. I tell you, I told

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Speaker 2: the end of this campaign. And here we are anyway.

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Speaker 2: My dear friend Alice Maurie Johnson is back with us.

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Speaker 2: Kwame Kilpatrick is also back with us. He's the Detroit mayor,

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Speaker 2: by the way, himself now on the Michigan airwaves and

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Speaker 2: was freed from prison, both of them by former President

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Speaker 2: Donald J. Trump. Welcome back. We appreciate your time. Alice, Maria,

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Speaker 2: I love you. How are you.

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Speaker 3: I'm proud to say that we are friends on air

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Speaker 7: Thank you, Sean. I'm happy to be on here again,

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Speaker 7: and you are my dear friend, my dear beloved friend,

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Speaker 7: and I'm happy to be on here and add my

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Speaker 7: voice to the voice of sense. First of all, in

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Speaker 7: case your listeners didn't know this, I'm a one hundred

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Speaker 7: sick and tired of all of the gender and racial

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Speaker 7: pandering that I'm hearing taking place. You know Sean. They

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Speaker 7: speak of the first woman of color as president, they

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Speaker 7: speak of black men having a problem voting for a woman.

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Speaker 7: That is not the issue, it's the candidate. We don't

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Speaker 7: worst in history is what she would be if she's elected.

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Speaker 2: I just want to remind people of your story. You

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Speaker 2: never thought that you had one time offender and you

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Speaker 2: got a life prison sentence, no hope.

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Speaker 7: Years, no hope until Donald Trump, who actually read my story.

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Speaker 7: I was denied three times under the Obama administration. And

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Speaker 7: when Donald Trump saw my case, it wasn't the fact

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Speaker 7: fact that he looked at me as a human being,

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Speaker 7: to bring other petitions of worthy candidates before him. You

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Speaker 7: and that's Kwanmee kill Patrick. I took his petition before

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Speaker 7: He looked at the man who kwame is today. And

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Speaker 7: I love for Kwame to speak for himself too, because

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Speaker 7: we both, both of our lives were saved by President Trump.

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Speaker 2: Well, Kwame's kill. Patrick. Great to have you back. We

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Speaker 2: appreciate you being with us. Remind people of your story

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Speaker 2: the mayor of Detroit. How long were you sentenced for?

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Speaker 3: Again?

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Speaker 8: I was the mayor of Detroit. But before that, I

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Speaker 8: was the Democratic leader and the state Legislature in Michigan.

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Speaker 8: You know, I ran for the State House at twenty five,

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Speaker 8: those liberation Democrats, my hero. But it's just a very

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Speaker 8: interesting background. Then I got to be mayor. I ran

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Speaker 8: seven years. And then my gift, my anointing, as you will, Sean,

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Speaker 8: it took me to a place that my character, integrity

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Speaker 8: that sentence, and then seven years. About thirty nine days

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Speaker 8: I never met Donald Trump. I never had a conversation

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Speaker 2: Now you're broadcasting and tell me about your life now

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Speaker 8: Well in prison, after being mad at everybody shine for

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Speaker 7: Well, I would be very honored, Sean, to have President

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Speaker 2: And what about you, Kawamy, have you ever thought about

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Speaker 8: You know, I did a speech and you said that

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Speaker 2: and Hitler and Stalin all in one in one comment.

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Speaker 2: Then of course he's going to come after African American

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Speaker 2: men and women, which he's not going to do. He's

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Speaker 2: going to use the military against citizens and take people

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Speaker 2: off the air. He's not going to do. But the

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Speaker 2: fear mongering happens. But it's never been this bad. And

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Speaker 2: it also tells me that they've run out of arguments.

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Speaker 2: And that's their whole closing argument is Donald Trump is bad, evil, horrible,

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Speaker 2: Nazi and fascist and the racist.

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Speaker 8: You know, as Hollywood has gone, you know, the scary

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Speaker 8: movies from the nineteen sixties, like Psycho, they just weren't

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Speaker 8: as scary as Freddy Krueger and Jason and the ones.

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Speaker 8: Now they weren't as scary as those. Every four years

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Speaker 8: you got to scare people a little bit more than

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Speaker 8: you did before. And what we're seeing now is it's

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Speaker 8: just not working. It's really not working. It works if

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Speaker 8: you're targeting the sick demology of some people, but it's

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Speaker 8: not working. And that's why you're seeing people, you know,

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Speaker 8: having their own thoughts in their own mind about this

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Speaker 8: whole political process. And and I think it started when

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Speaker 8: we were there. You talked about cities. You know, the

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Speaker 8: Democrats have have all. I was a Democrat engaging a Democrat,

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Speaker 8: the Democratic Party, Democratic president has it never worked. When

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Speaker 8: I engaged George Bush, we got a new riverfront done

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Speaker 8: that we've been talking about doing for thirty years. We

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Speaker 8: got a new downtown done. We we well, let me

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Speaker 8: ask you this, you do.

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Speaker 3: It was Barack Obama president when you went to jail, or.

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Speaker 8: No, he was president. He sent the prosecutor in there

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Speaker 8: to prosecute me. He sent he uh okayed all of

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Speaker 8: the reco allegations, and every lawyer from California to New York,

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Speaker 8: New Jersey, from Texas all the way to Michigan. It

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Speaker 8: looked at my case said this is ridiculous. And when

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Speaker 8: it got to Alice Johnson and Jerry Kushner and the

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Speaker 8: President of the United States, they said, this is ridiculous.

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Speaker 8: And you know, the over sentence and the over uh,

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Speaker 8: you know, over everything just malicious and so prosecution, which

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Speaker 8: I see the President going through himself now. And they

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Speaker 8: said this is ridiculous, and he gave me my freedom.

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Speaker 8: So I think people are tired of rhetoric. I think

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Speaker 8: they're tired of people trying to scare them. They want

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Speaker 8: to hear the straight story. When Donald Trump comes to

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Speaker 8: town and he talks about an entrepreneur opportunity, he's not

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Speaker 8: trying to be black. What he's trying to do is

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Speaker 8: be Donald Trump talking to you about what I can

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Speaker 8: do in my position to be able to help you

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Speaker 8: get more access to business, more access to capital, and

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Speaker 8: improve your tax structure so you make some money. That's

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Speaker 8: what black folks want to hear. It's just like this

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Speaker 8: Black America versus No. We want to hear the same

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Speaker 8: thing that you're telling to know that you're saying in

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Speaker 8: the suburban communities, what you're saying to business people all

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Speaker 8: over the country, and I think Donald Trump understands that

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Speaker 8: he's not changing the way he talks. He's not trying

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Speaker 8: to be cool. He's being Donald Trump. And that's what's

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Speaker 8: resonating around the country. Now. When you get Trump, you're

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Speaker 8: going to get sometimes when he says something, Oh, that

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Speaker 8: hurt a little bit, But I think that that hells

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Speaker 8: in comparison to all of the other things that he

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Speaker 8: says about doing the job that he has to do

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Speaker 8: as leader of the free world, as president of the

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Speaker 8: United States.

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Speaker 2: And you've endorsed him, have you got any any negative

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Speaker 2: feedback on that?

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Speaker 3: And Alsbury? Have you got any negative feedback? Kwame, I'll

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Speaker 3: ask you first.

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Speaker 8: Oh yeah, yeah, you know, I was you know, I

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Speaker 8: was a big time Democrat. I was on the DNC.

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Speaker 8: So when I endorsed him, I got negative feedback from everybody.

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Speaker 8: You know, all of those tenets.

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Speaker 2: And forget about the people and the party, what about

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Speaker 2: everyday people.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 2: I saw President Trump with LJ in the barbershop, and

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I love the conversation, you know, because I

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Speaker 2: mean kind of barbershops are known for a lot of talking.

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Speaker 8: I know what was like that when I grew up

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Speaker 8: great question, because ninety six percent of the people in

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Speaker 8: the city of Detroit on paper are Democrats. But when

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Speaker 8: I'm in the barbershop every week in the city of Detroit,

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Speaker 8: what I hear is, man, you gotta do what you

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Speaker 8: gotta do. Hey, I'm leaning towards Trump too. I'm not

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Speaker 8: mad at Donald Trump. So we're able to have a

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Speaker 8: different kind of conversation away from the political ads and

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Speaker 8: the political conversations where you just talk about real people

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Speaker 8: to say it was better when he was president. I

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Speaker 8: want a president that actually is going to leave. I'm

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Speaker 8: kind of nervous about what China and Russia and North

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Speaker 8: Korea are doing. I'll mean they at the table, so

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Speaker 8: we hear real issues in the barbershop. You're right about

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Speaker 8: that shop.

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Speaker 7: Well, I'm the barbershop, but I travel a lot.

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Speaker 2: By the way, you're in the beauty shop where you belong.

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Speaker 2: You make us look like you know, you know? Is

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Speaker 2: there no barbershop or beauty shops that can help call me.

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Speaker 8: Or me no question?

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Speaker 7: Well I can tell you this. I have people come

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Speaker 7: up to me in the supermarket, in the airport, everywhere

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Speaker 7: because my face is pretty recognizable down here, and they

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Speaker 7: tell me that they are voting for Trump this time,

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Speaker 7: and even even just recently. I have to tell you this,

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Speaker 7: what antidote. This guy was just pushing at the airport,

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Speaker 7: this big garbage band, just collecting the trash, and he

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Speaker 7: he eased up beside me and he said, you're gonna happen.

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Speaker 7: He said, you're gonna help it, because that's my guy.

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Speaker 7: He said, I didn't vote for him in twenty twenty,

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Speaker 7: and look at what I'm doing right now. He started

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Speaker 7: telling me about the job he lost and what he

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Speaker 7: had to do now because of his company had to

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Speaker 7: lay off so many people. So every day, when it

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Speaker 7: starts hitting your pocketbooks, when it starts hitting your wallet,

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Speaker 7: then you start thinking different. People are not afraid now

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Speaker 7: to say that I'm voting Trump. I've seen more Trump hats,

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Speaker 7: more Trump t shirts. People are coming out in droves,

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Speaker 7: and I think that we are going to win by

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Speaker 7: a landslide, so that it will be no doubt of

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Speaker 7: what the big that this is a big victory for us,

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Speaker 7: for US Americans. So just sayday people. They talk to me,

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Speaker 7: and I'm sure they talked to Kwami too. It's not

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Speaker 7: the talk you think. Don't believe the polls. Don't believe

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Speaker 7: what they're saying, that this is a big jaw for

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Speaker 7: a ride to a new to history.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's just the tactics of calling them names like this,

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Speaker 2: and it's just as low as you can go, as

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Speaker 2: far as I'm concerned, and that's why so many people

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Speaker 2: hate politics to begin with.

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Speaker 3: You have a heart of gold.

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Speaker 2: The sainthood I think in your future, Alice Marie Johnson,

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Speaker 2: God bless you, Kwame. I'm so glad that you have

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Speaker 2: rebuilt your life, and congratulations on your new family. I

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Speaker 2: wish you both got speed and success, and appreciate all

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Speaker 2: the time you gave me today. We did not expect

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Speaker 2: to go those long, but I just you know, I

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Speaker 2: find your stories fascinating and I wanted people to hear

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Speaker 2: from both of you.

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Speaker 3: Thank you both,