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Speaker 1: Bred business Flash. You're listening to Taking Stock with Kathleen

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Speaker 1: and Pim Fox on Bloomberg Radio. Walmart good news for shareholders,

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Speaker 1: for company managers and all employees. I assume increasing in

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Speaker 1: saniel earnings forecast after second quarter results topped analyst estimates.

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Speaker 1: Is this assigned the world's largest retailer is pulling business

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Speaker 1: away from rivals like a target where we want to

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Speaker 1: talk about this and so much more. Walmart acquiring Jet

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Speaker 1: dot Com. It's attempt to compete with Amazon even more

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Speaker 1: aggressively when it comes to online shopping. Walmart shares up

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Speaker 1: a dollar thirty six cents at seventy four dollars and

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Speaker 1: twenty nine cents. Bert Flickinger joins this managing director Strategic

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Speaker 1: Resource Group. He's back in our New York studio with

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Speaker 1: us today. Bert, welcome, Thank you so Walmart. How good

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Speaker 1: is the good news? It's good news because Walmart has

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Speaker 1: good leadership for the first time in nearly twenty years. Kathleen, So,

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Speaker 1: with good leadership, it's taking a long time to turn

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Speaker 1: the company around, but with eighth straight quarters of positive

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Speaker 1: same store sales, as you and Pim references I heard

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Speaker 1: driving up from Philadelphia, Walmart's gain is Targets pain the

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Speaker 1: offering at Walmart has it changed. I was looking at

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Speaker 1: things like organic food groceries. They seem to be doing

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Speaker 1: much better in terms of providing those kinds of products

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Speaker 1: to customers than Target. That's what we're looking at PIM

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Speaker 1: is organic local farmers, looking at hydroponic bringing in the

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Speaker 1: destination demand daily, particularly for millennials, young adults that are

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Speaker 1: focused on fresh. The other thing that the leadership really

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Speaker 1: deserves a lot of credit for is being the first

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Speaker 1: team at Walmart after fifty years of failure in basic

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Speaker 1: young boys. And Targets had some failings in fashion again,

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Speaker 1: Walmart's game Walmart. You know, but you've been on the show,

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Speaker 1: Uh even on her Big Friend of radio and TV

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Speaker 1: here at Bloomberg. Where is Walmart now? He said, for

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Speaker 1: the best management they've had in years, So we can

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Speaker 1: understand better Jet dot Com that acquisition. But you know,

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Speaker 1: so recently it's it's holiday shopping, it's Christmas Eve, and

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Speaker 1: the shocks, the stocks aren't the shelves aren't stocked. We've

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Speaker 1: we've seen that as as part of Walmart. We've seen

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Speaker 1: them built. These new stores are supposed to appeal more

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Speaker 1: Com and compete with Amazon Kathleen. As you and PIM

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Speaker 1: have always said, leadership makes a difference in retail, and

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Speaker 1: you and PIM and Bloomberg have been uniquely successful in

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Speaker 1: when there is a major leadership change Frank Blake replacing

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Speaker 1: At Kathleen's point, they actually have product in the stores

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Speaker 1: follow everything in existence and rarely understand teens. Teens want

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Speaker 1: They're one point two million fewer people working at bricks

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Speaker 1: Customer counts as Target reported yesterday, really cratering. There's gonna

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Speaker 1: And pim Pim's correct. The B and C malls Uh,

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Speaker 1: Macy's and Bloomingdale's combined in total. L Brands, the parent

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Speaker 1: L Brands up almost five percent today. What do you

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Speaker 1: lot of shopping though, right, I need retail therapy. Is

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Speaker 1: this depressing? I'm gonna buy something him? All right, you

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Speaker 1: helped the economy. Bert Flickinger, Managing director, Strategic Resource Group,

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