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Speaker 2: April twenty eighth, and uh, we're currently watching Nuggets Warriors

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Speaker 2: throughout the pod, but we've got a lot of great

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Speaker 2: aka Jackson. Thanks for staying up late with us. It's

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Speaker 2: not that late on the Actually, I mean it is.

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Speaker 3: Late enough, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: He has to edit when the show is overworthy of

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Speaker 2: you know, thanks, thanks for thanks for being here, Jackson.

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Speaker 3: You guys are so welcome.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's kind of nice and I've enjoyed

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Speaker 2: the out of pocket shows have been really fun. But

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Speaker 2: it's nice whenever it's just the three of us. It's

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Speaker 2: always like That's how I always was when I would

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Speaker 2: go out with my friends. You go out and you'd

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Speaker 2: be at a party and be like, this is fun,

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Speaker 2: and then you'd go back to your friend's house and

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Speaker 2: it would just be you and your like three close friends.

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Speaker 2: You'd be like, this is better, like.

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Speaker 4: The three man weave out this motherfucker.

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Speaker 3: We could edit this point.

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Speaker 2: Oops, I don't know. You got to go in a

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Speaker 2: couple of minutes, dude, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if we're coming to Jackson.

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Speaker 2: Okay, there have been a lot of great games, and

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Speaker 2: I know JJ Reddick might not approve of our choices here,

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Speaker 2: but we have to start with some off court narrative shit,

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Speaker 2: because there's nothing funnier to me in the United States

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Speaker 2: of America than Doculus Rivers.

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Speaker 4: Doculus speaking Justckington.

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Speaker 2: Dockington Rivers speaking to a group of reporters and saying,

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Speaker 2: tell the whole story about my record setting thirty one

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Speaker 2: blown elimination games in NBA history, No NBA coach other

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Speaker 2: than Doc Rivers has blown a three to one lead

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Speaker 2: more than once. He has done it three.

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Speaker 5: Ties, franchises, ties, and he wants to make sure we

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Speaker 5: tell the whole story.

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Speaker 2: He wants us to make sure we tell the story

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Speaker 2: of Phil Jackson telling the Lakers these guys know how

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Speaker 2: to lose. No one in the NBA has blown more

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Speaker 2: and they're showing you why tonight.

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Speaker 4: Bro.

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Speaker 1: He had the worst fucking defense I've ever heard.

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Speaker 4: In his life.

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Speaker 1: His whole defense was basically like, I'm really not trash

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Speaker 1: if you think about it like this. He's like, let's

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Speaker 1: look at it, let's examine the rosters.

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Speaker 3: Bro.

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Speaker 4: We don't need to examine shit.

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Speaker 1: We saw Josh Smith and Corey Brewy get you the

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Speaker 4: Bro, What the fuck else do we need to talk about?

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Speaker 1: Man, And then the way he just threw that fucking

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Speaker 1: two thousand and three Magic team under the bus. These

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Speaker 1: motherfuckers are fifty years old, right, this motherfucker Listen, Doc

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Speaker 1: Rivers does not discriminate on who he'll throw under the bus.

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Speaker 1: You can get it the night, right, you can get

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Speaker 1: it ten minutes after the game, you can get it

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Speaker 1: nineteen years later after a playoff series.

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Speaker 2: Is leading a million man march under the bus. He's like,

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Speaker 2: the whole community is coming with me under the bus. Bro.

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Speaker 1: That motherfucker said, go back and look at that roster.

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Speaker 1: Darryl Armstrong was minding his motherfucking business today. Dog, he

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Speaker 1: see what I was That motherfucker ain't even dunk in

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Speaker 2: Right, He said, I dare you, He said, I dare

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Speaker 2: you to go look at that roster this mother look man,

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Speaker 2: this is this is why I'm rooting for chaos man, Like, hey, what.

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Speaker 3: Trusts me out is how he's scared. He fucking is.

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Speaker 6: I saw a ton of fucking fear. He sees it

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Speaker 6: happening again, and nobody knows more about this than Doc Rivers.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you know what I mean. But I was like,

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Speaker 6: He's already started with excuses of three to two with

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Speaker 6: there and he still sees the fucking riding on the wall.

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Speaker 3: Bro. That was funny ashead of me.

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Speaker 2: It was genuinely. I was, honestly. I think I tweeted

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Speaker 2: Char was home from work today. She was sitting on

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Speaker 3: I wasn't trash them, niggas was trashed.

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Speaker 2: To say, obviously it starts with me. I always take

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Speaker 2: how shitty this fucking team was. And Chris Paul is

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Speaker 2: always getting injured, old fucking what.

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Speaker 6: Damn?

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Speaker 3: There was so much pain in every single statement he made.

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean, big trace him and Grady?

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Speaker 4: What has he done? First of all, we were the

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Speaker 6: Listen already, Bay I.

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Speaker 4: Went I went back and looked at the roster.

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Speaker 1: I went back and looked at that roster, and those

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Speaker 1: that's a lot of fucking double digit scores in two

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: If you up three one, you aren't anyone beat the Lakers,

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Speaker 1: not the one, Bro, that one in three, No no, no,

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Speaker 1: not a no three.

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Speaker 4: The next one to the finals and O.

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Speaker 1: Three fours went four and five they beat the Lakers

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Speaker 1: and they lost to it.

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Speaker 4: Was it was four.

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Speaker 2: I believe it was four that they blew the lead

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Speaker 2: come on, bro, you just like you just never. I

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Speaker 2: mean I'm around a lot of basketball coaches at different levels.

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Speaker 2: I've never, in fifteen years of being a professional sports

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Speaker 2: that was not on me, that was the fucking team.

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Speaker 2: I mean that you you might have that conversation with

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Speaker 2: blew the lead. I mean, like, are you out of

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Speaker 2: I was the one who got us up three to one.

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Speaker 2: Those dudes were the ones who blew the lead.

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Speaker 6: How many times have people actually taken responsibility after making

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Speaker 3: It always responsibility, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: What's a more bullshit statement with all due respect or

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Speaker 2: I take four responsibilities?

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Speaker 7: His hairline third one third one.

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Speaker 3: I'm not racist, but.

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Speaker 4: Yeah you're for when you get it. When you hear

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Speaker 3: Straight to racist spider. That spider just came down from

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Speaker 2: John has been watching. He's been keeping an eye on.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna we're gonna keep recording while John takes Yes,

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Speaker 6: I mean, I didn't want to be beating him fighting

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Speaker 3: No, you just.

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Speaker 2: Rain. This is sometimes themes of podcasts happen without you

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Speaker 2: intending them to. We go straight from uh Dockington Rivers

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Speaker 2: to Ridiculous Rivers, Ridiculous Rivers to Pat Bev and cat

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Speaker 2: on the Wolves. The Wolves are the official Bluett Boys

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Speaker 2: team of the century. Yes, like this is some truly

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Speaker 2: astounding ship and we were we were talking about it

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Speaker 2: last night. Pat Bev, you're up thirteen. Why would you

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Speaker 2: poke the bear with Jahn Moran? Why would you say

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Speaker 2: the team in Advance Analytics. Pat Bev is generational at

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Speaker 6: Cat Cat been looking bad, so Bro, this whole cat

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Speaker 6: every time he opened his mouth and.

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Speaker 4: Go to the leader. You know what I'm saying, motherfucker.

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Speaker 6: Talking about some sh bro like like like young Dudy said,

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Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. Please don't jump off the Porsche.

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Speaker 3: You too old.

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Speaker 6: Now take your ass back to being a nice all right,

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Speaker 6: you ain't the snigger, go back.

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Speaker 4: Don't jump your ass back before the nice.

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Speaker 3: You're too old now, Bro, you ain't fling this ship.

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Speaker 3: Go back to being a good guy. Okay, Okay, Luigi,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: These motherfuckers have talked ship. It's they've averaged more like

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Speaker 1: ship talking going wrong. Then then there have been games

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Speaker 6: And then John like, you know, like Cat Cat you

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Speaker 6: a hooper.

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Speaker 3: Somebody said this Cat you a hooper. You a Hooper's

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Speaker 3: a fucking dog. He lives for that ship. Please second

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Speaker 3: guess this motherfucker. You know what I'm saying. He loves that,

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Speaker 3: and this is who you want to talk to. Bro,

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Speaker 3: Just try to sneak out there with the W and shape.

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Speaker 6: Baby, you're doing too much, got too much dip of

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Speaker 6: your chip, bro and the universe.

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Speaker 3: Lets you know what talk was.

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Speaker 6: They had him on mother fuck U Report like this

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Speaker 6: for nine minutes and then they showed the no Gee.

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Speaker 4: Boy got hit with the SpongeBob. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Man, I mean, look, I'm not against anyone talking and shit.

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Speaker 1: I love motherfuckers talking and ship. But sometimes you just

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Speaker 1: And that's totally fine. Bro. Like Tim Duncan, he's well

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Speaker 4: That ain't you?

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Speaker 2: Bro?

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Speaker 6: Ever since ever since that Westbrook shit, he been, he been.

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Speaker 3: Himself to go back to the nigga different. You know

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Speaker 6: In Minnesota now, who has ever been fearful? Oh that statement?

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Speaker 3: You feel me?

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Speaker 4: You thought ship was sweet?

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Speaker 8: You needn't look at the zip code, motherfucker. You're in

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Speaker 4: Just Minnesota, though.

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Speaker 1: Man, those shots, man cat just got y'all out here

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Speaker 2: Man, I dude, I do genuinely have an enormous amount

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Speaker 3: But I want as much. But yeah, but I'll get

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Speaker 2: You, but like I just I like the team. I

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Speaker 3: Shout out to Minnesota Hawks.

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Speaker 6: The Twins baseball hat is one of the most beautiful

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Speaker 3: So absolutely, but you got a nice grim there, Bubba.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about the Bucks finally, punched the bulls out.

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Speaker 2: I is Yannis in the point that the report was

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Speaker 1: Yes, and and the thing is, you know, in my book,

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Speaker 4: To me, Bro, like, he don't have shit to prove

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, if this is where

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Speaker 6: I think he has a chance because he's as like

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Speaker 3: And so you know, Giannis is a is a force.

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Speaker 2: But that can physically do things k can't.

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Speaker 3: For sure, but that the bag is the as people say,

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Speaker 6: So I'm you know, I'm throwing throwing a lot of

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Speaker 3: I mean he may is defensively, is it. I mean we,

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Speaker 6: Said, we've never seen anybody put Katie in that situation.

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Speaker 6: That's why I thought Katie could win because of what

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Speaker 3: You know what he did to Katie. You know what

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Speaker 6: See it's gonna be extremely difficult to make it out

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Speaker 2: He may maybe can't fucking believe that he has to

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Speaker 2: It's pretty special. That ended up being a nice draw

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Speaker 2: I mean, I just think it's like anytime you sort

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Speaker 3: It's like everybody was out. You know, how fucking Levine

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Speaker 2: I thought, But I thought I didn't think the Suns

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's just he is just one of those dudes.

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Speaker 2: But I think the Celtics are gonna put the fucking

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Speaker 2: stuff he added in the offseason. I think, like, you

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Speaker 2: it's not gonna be anything soft. It's gonna that's gonna.

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Speaker 3: Be a have. You know, look at the I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's fucking insane. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Pat Conington is not gonna get loose for twenty five

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Speaker 2: against the fun.

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Speaker 3: It's not gonna happen, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 6: But I it's I think it's just it's just difficult.

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Speaker 2: So Gianness Tatum could be uh, that could be tasty.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's fun.

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Speaker 6: But I mean if it's if we find Tatum in

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Speaker 6: that is.

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Speaker 3: Bro.

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Speaker 6: I love you know, I love I love I love

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Speaker 6: saying I love the crib shout out to say, louis

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Speaker 6: all that ship, bro. But nah, I don't nobody want

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Speaker 3: That ship dead. You can't do that against that defense.

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Speaker 3: It's just not happening.

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Speaker 4: I think, do whatever he wants out there.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I don't think what I don't I think that defense

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Speaker 6: We'll see, though, I mean, yeah, we'll see.

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Speaker 2: There's nothing better than going into a series where you

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Speaker 2: both I totally believe both of what you're both saying.

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Speaker 4: That's it.

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Speaker 2: That all sounds credible to me. No one's talking out

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Speaker 2: their fucking ass, I mean from me.

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Speaker 6: Have to see what they did with KD. We have

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Speaker 6: never seen him look that bad. We've never seen him

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Speaker 2: I think nie Is, I think giannest Is. I have

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Speaker 2: Giannis right now on a different tier than other human beings.

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Speaker 3: Who are I think the best play?

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Speaker 6: You know, I just think it's I just think, like, what,

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Speaker 6: go ahead, what are you saying?

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, you ain't gonna be able to

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Speaker 1: dish out of that fucking double team, Which is why

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Speaker 1: you know we need to make that distinction. You can

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Speaker 1: He's not the best offensive player, because you know a

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Speaker 4: You said you sent a double to Broun.

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Speaker 6: What do you think, Broo, he got that motherfucker.

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Speaker 2: The other thing, the other thing about Braun, that's that

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Speaker 2: Giannie is more like this and like KD is when

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Speaker 2: at you, that breaks the other team down. With Braun

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Speaker 2: as much as right, I mean KD, they're running a

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Speaker 2: lot of guys in him. Giannis that you know, you

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Speaker 4: Your own guys.

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Speaker 2: You're trying to run basically physically into That's a different dude,

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Speaker 2: bro So. I mean that's the other thing is is

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Speaker 6: I think they're the best team in the playoffs right now,

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Speaker 6: team you know what I mean, And we're going they're

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Speaker 6: the playoffs, but also the best team as the second

441
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Speaker 6: best player in the playoffs.

442
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Speaker 3: Jason, So it'll be it'll be good.

443
00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,359
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the Heat close out the Hawks. A

444
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,199
Speaker 2: couple of people, a couple of Heat fans, thank you,

445
00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,840
Speaker 2: Jenkins and Jones. Heat fans I'm sorry, we haven't really

446
00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,399
Speaker 2: talked that. I'm genuinely like the Heat. We we we

447
00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,879
Speaker 2: talked about how no one talks about the Heat, but

448
00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:43,680
Speaker 2: it's true that it's just they're the They're the one

449
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:48,640
Speaker 2: seed that everyone is looking at the nets, the Celtics,

450
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:52,359
Speaker 2: the fucking Bucks, I mean myself included. So the Heat

451
00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,800
Speaker 2: the first team in the East to advance. The Heat

452
00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,800
Speaker 2: have a real nice path. So they're gonna get the

453
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Speaker 2: same matures or the Raptors, and I feel very confident

454
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,320
Speaker 2: about them winning either one of those series. So Eastern

455
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,720
Speaker 2: Conference Finals, trip ship. That's that. That's a that's a

456
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,359
Speaker 2: that's a nice that's it's nice to feel confident that

457
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 2: that's where they're getting. If you're a Heat.

458
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Speaker 3: Fan, congrats Miami.

459
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Speaker 4: That did it.

460
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Speaker 1: They know, but but but no, we gotta get Miami possible.

461
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,400
Speaker 1: What they did to trade goddamn worst, fucking worst, that's

462
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:28,640
Speaker 1: the worst I've ever seen trade.

463
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Speaker 4: Look in the NBA.

464
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Speaker 1: Like a horrible performance from them, and it was, you know,

465
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Speaker 1: all of all on Miami.

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Speaker 4: Man, they goddamn two of.

467
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Speaker 2: Twelve closuame and oh of five from three in a

468
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Speaker 2: game that they basically load managed.

469
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Speaker 3: In the games where he has good numbers.

470
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Speaker 6: If you're looking at the where how we shot as

471
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Speaker 6: far as percentages horrible, you.

472
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Speaker 1: Know what I mean?

473
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Speaker 6: So like, yeah, it's just Ye had good moments, but

474
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 6: he just couldn't get comfortable in that that whole series

475
00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:57,920
Speaker 6: and shot the shots.

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Speaker 2: Spoke Jackson, You have an update for us on the

477
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Speaker 2: Warriors game?

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Speaker 7: Yes, uh, well, there's twenty one seconds left as I'm

479
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 7: saying this, but the Warriors just took a five point

480
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Speaker 7: leave with twenty one seconds left them.

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Speaker 3: They have the ball. Jokic balled out.

482
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:17,879
Speaker 7: Gary Payton played amazing, but Steph was fucking supernova. He

483
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,119
Speaker 7: had a sick like lefty layup over Jokic like to

484
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,359
Speaker 7: get to put them up five, and then he like

485
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Speaker 7: rocked them.

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Speaker 3: He put them asleep.

487
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Speaker 6: We saw in the third quarter when he hit those

488
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Speaker 6: three threes, we knew what time he was in a fourth.

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Speaker 3: That's why it was so hard to turn that down

490
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Speaker 3: game all.

491
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Speaker 6: Even though I knew the Warriors are gonna win and

492
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 6: that serious this game getting mattered. They were gonna win

493
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Speaker 6: the series even if they lost this game. But I mean,

494
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 6: you knew Stephan was about him something special. He had

495
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 6: that chop step feeling.

496
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Speaker 2: Steph is fucking feeling himself this this play. He's been

497
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Speaker 2: he's been putting, he's been doing the Rock the Baby,

498
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Speaker 2: He's been putting people to sleep. This is the best

499
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Speaker 2: version of him. I'm so happy. I'm so happy to

500
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:55,920
Speaker 2: see them playing with So they beat the Nuggets three

501
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 2: to one or four to one, they'll get the winner

502
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,159
Speaker 2: of Grizzly's Wolves. Do you either of those teams?

503
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Speaker 4: Is they're gonna beat the funk out of whoever comes out.

504
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 3: Of the kind of doing their number?

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Speaker 6: Interested in the Grizzies, I think I think they whooped

506
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 6: his brakes off the Timberwolves. But I think the Grizzlies

507
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Speaker 6: have have.

508
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Speaker 4: Y'all seen how young and dumb the.

509
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 3: Gris, no doubt, you know what I'm saying.

510
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Speaker 6: But like, also, they're dumb enough to believe they can

511
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Speaker 6: beat these motherfuckers too, you know what I'm.

512
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 3: Saying, And they beat them a couple of times.

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Speaker 2: I shouldn't beat the Timberwolves. The timber Wolves have led

514
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 2: that series eighty percent.

515
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 4: Of the fucking what what is it?

516
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Speaker 6: What is the series looking at for doing the regular sauce?

517
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Speaker 6: I know that doesn't matter. I know playoffs is totally different.

518
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 6: But what's it?

519
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Speaker 3: It doesn't go ahead, Jackson, go ahead.

520
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Speaker 2: Okay, he's looking at well. I was just gonna say

521
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,919
Speaker 2: it was. I think the the argument against the Warriors

522
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 2: was kind of the argument against the Nets last year.

523
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Speaker 2: It was like, did the Warriors get to play together

524
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,879
Speaker 2: enough this year to gel? And what they showed is

525
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,399
Speaker 2: if three of the four main movers are Hall of

526
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 2: famers who've won championships before, it doesn't really fucking matter.

527
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 2: They're just on that different level that just doesn't matter.

528
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 3: Second nature. They they're they're like family. Now. You know

529
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 3: what I'm.

530
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Speaker 1: Saying, Like, listen, bro, my biggest takeaway from Memphis from

531
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,199
Speaker 1: this series is give Taylor Jenkins Coach of the Year

532
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 1: because these motherfuckers are low key stupid.

533
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Speaker 3: You know.

534
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Speaker 1: That's what, bro, That's what I'm taking it. And and

535
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 1: no shot, listen, it's no shots I have. I think

536
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,879
Speaker 1: this this Memphis scene was gonn accomplish great things, but

537
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 1: they're young and dumb right now. Bro, And I mean,

538
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 1: you know, they they're taking their lumps right now, and

539
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 1: they probably come out this years and they're gonna come

540
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Speaker 1: out this postseason smarter and more ready for next year.

541
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Speaker 1: But those motherfuckers look young and stupid right now, like

542
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 1: most young teams.

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Speaker 6: Just yeah, they're young and they don't know how to

544
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Speaker 6: win yet, you know, like they blow.

545
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Speaker 3: I mean we both sides. You've seen some blown leads,

546
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Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

547
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Speaker 6: So and then when they're down a lot of times

548
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 6: you see them trying to get it all back at once.

549
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Speaker 3: Its just there's some bad moments.

550
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Speaker 6: But I mean, the highs are real high, so we'll see,

551
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Speaker 6: you know, they get on the rice run, I don't

552
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Speaker 6: know that, you know, I think they could give it.

553
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Speaker 3: I think give a run.

554
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Speaker 7: But yeah, Chris, the Grizzlies won three of four this

555
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 7: in the regular season.

556
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Speaker 3: But hey, I think they could. They could make some fit.

557
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 7: And shit happen.

558
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Speaker 2: I definitely think they have the best chance. Although I

559
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 2: think you're arguing about the Grizzlies. To me is almost

560
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,919
Speaker 2: the Wolves a little bit more. The Wolves are just

561
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 2: like a fucking circus. Like it's just there's very few

562
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,880
Speaker 2: outcomes I don't believe are possible with the Timberwolves.

563
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Speaker 6: They're a different team from quarter to quarter, you know

564
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Speaker 6: what I'm saying.

565
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Speaker 3: Yes, it's not even half to half or game the game.

566
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Speaker 2: I've never seen I've never seen anything like I've have

567
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 2: you ever seen a team up twenty points and you're like,

568
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 2: they're probably gonna lose the game. Like I thought that

569
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 2: twice and I was right. Bro.

570
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Speaker 4: Both of those seas in that series are dumb as hell.

571
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Speaker 1: You know. It's it's it's a series full of young

572
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 1: dudes who know how to hoop, but they don't know

573
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Speaker 1: how to win yet. Like I said, this series is

574
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Speaker 1: gonna go seven and somebody's gonna lose because they were

575
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Speaker 1: off sides.

576
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Speaker 4: Bro, that's how fucking stupid is man.

577
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Speaker 3: Correct?

578
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 2: So I think we feel good looking forward. I think

579
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 2: we feel good about the Heat versus the Bucks or Celtics,

580
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 2: interested to see what happens, and then we feel good

581
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 2: about the Warriors versus there's still all four teams alive.

582
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 2: On the other side, I think the Sun's pull it

583
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 2: out against the Pelicans. You think so, yeah, I think so.

584
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 3: They still lose that, right, not guarantee Booker being a

585
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 3: hurt still.

586
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 2: You know, they said he's trying to come back this this,

587
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 2: this next game, He's trying to come back for games.

588
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 3: I don't think that. I don't think that's smart.

589
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's totally I totally agree with

590
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,919
Speaker 2: a hamstring. You know they're gonna win one or two.

591
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 2: You're gonna win one. If you can't win one or

592
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 2: two against the Pelicans without win it, you weren't gonna

593
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 2: win a championship. Then MAVs Jazz. I can't wait for

594
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 2: this series to be over.

595
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 6: And the Jazz, Bro, like, are they gonna keep playing

596
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 6: this fucking game?

597
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:57,959
Speaker 3: Like blowhead, ditch all the way up?

598
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 6: Bro? They have a good team, right, but like, it's

599
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 6: not it's not good enough to try to keep making

600
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 6: this night.

601
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Speaker 3: Dog, It's not gonna happen with these dudes.

602
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 2: I think the Map I think the Maps closed that out.

603
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 3: They lost two without without Luca Luca. Did you see

604
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 3: what Luca did in them last night?

605
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 9: Okay?

606
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it was I mean easy worker everybody

607
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 6: you see, Bro, he had fucking uh dogurt in the

608
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 6: fucking and and like the pivot cooking that man.

609
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 3: Bro, it's does have no chance to win in that ship.

610
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 2: Okay. I think that's I think that's all of the

611
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 2: current NBA stuff. There is one other story we have

612
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 2: to talk about before we can end, which is uh no, no, no,

613
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 2: it's not that John it's not. I'm sorry. You can

614
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 2: talk about the more stories we have to talk about.

615
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 2: There's two more. There's there's two stories. The first we

616
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 2: have to talk about is we need to clear some

617
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 2: space up because we're all going to court. H Jerry

618
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 2: West so angry about winning time that he is willing

619
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Speaker 2: to take it all the way to the Supreme Court.

620
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Speaker 2: And I love that because what does Jerry West think

621
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Speaker 2: the Supreme Court does?

622
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Speaker 1: They're not gonna give a fuck about your depiction in

623
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: a fucking dramatization, Bro, they got better shit to worry about.

624
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 2: Man.

625
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: No, this mother, like everyone has said, this is exactly

626
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Speaker 1: how Jerry West on this show would act. Like in

627
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Speaker 1: the very first scene that we saw Jerry West, he

628
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: was talking about Sue motherfucker's on that golf course.

629
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Speaker 4: Like this is this is Jerry West from that show.

630
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Speaker 4: To a fucking tea.

631
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Speaker 10: Man, I have nothing You have not tweeted the exact

632
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 10: same thing, well, and I tweeted it as well.

633
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 2: But I just want to make the point, like we

634
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 2: I think we talked about this in the last show,

635
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 2: this is not how you get people to not think

636
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 2: you're an asshole. It's just like all you're doing is

637
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 2: making people laugh. I appreciate it. It's nice to laugh.

638
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 2: Enjoyed this story enormously, but like all you're doing is

639
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 2: making people think that they're right about it.

640
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 3: He doesn't have so he doesn't know these things. You know.

641
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 3: He thinks this is normal in his world.

642
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 2: But what's crazy to me is he was born at

643
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 2: a time when everyone has like six siblings, right, you

644
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 2: didn't have any older brothers to teach you that if

645
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 2: you teacher he said, I'm smart. He said, I'm dumb,

646
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 2: but I'm actually smart. Like you know, you don't have

647
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 2: the life experience that that's not how this shit works.

648
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Speaker 6: Bro, you watched the show, it's just really funny people

649
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 6: getting that mad about like you know, but like Tyler said,

650
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 6: the man is mad about a portrayal and he's acting

651
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Speaker 6: like the like the motherfucker that that's in the it's

652
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Speaker 6: in the show, you know what I'm saying.

653
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Speaker 2: Like, well, and so so Jeff Perlman. I think one

654
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Speaker 2: thing that's interesting is people have seated the argument that

655
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Speaker 2: the show character has a caricature of Jerry West for

656
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Speaker 2: comedic effect. But Jeff Perlman, who wrote the book that

657
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 2: Winning Time is based on, he kind of pushed back

658
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 2: on that. He said, Jerry West is one of my

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00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 2: favorite athletes ever. But did he break his golf clubs

660
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 2: in rage? Yes? Did he curse like a pirate? Yes?

661
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 2: Was he tormented? Yes? Did he hire a private investigator

662
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 2: to spy on Norm Nixon? Yes? On and on, and

663
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 2: then he quotes Jerry West's biography about how difficult he

664
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 2: was to work with and stuff. So Jeff prom is like,

665
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 2: it's actually not as inaccurate as everyone is kind of

666
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 2: assuming it is. It's like he was a fucking prick,

667
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 2: and that's fine, Like that's how I think he's a simp.

668
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 2: I actually think he's a sympathetic figure in the show,

669
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,959
Speaker 2: to be honest with you. Yes, the conversation he had

670
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 2: with Magic at the end of the last episode, well,

671
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 2: I won't spoil it, but it's like, I genuinely think

672
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 2: we've talked about this on the show many times. To

673
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 2: actually want to win on a cellular level, a championship

674
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 2: in a professional sport, you have got to be psychotic.

675
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 2: No one things that Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant or

676
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 2: Lebron James are healthy people. If they were healthy people,

677
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 2: four championships would be great, awesome. I won four championships.

678
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 2: I'm gonna retire and be wealthy forever. But that's just

679
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 2: not the way those people are wired. And Jerry West

680
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 2: was arguably the first guy like that, you know.

681
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 4: I mean, he.

682
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 2: Really was at that base level and he didn't get

683
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 2: to win the way that Bill Russell did the way

684
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 2: that other people have been wired like that. So I've

685
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 2: always found him to be a sympathetic figure, and I

686
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 2: actually think the show is like I don't know, I

687
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 2: don't I don't see him as like a monster on

688
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 2: the show. Personally, I see him as a dude who's

689
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 2: obsessed with winning, knows he's not good enough, and I

690
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 2: think that's a very interesting I think he's smart enough

691
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 2: to know he's not good enough, but it can't change

692
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 2: the fact that he's not good enough. I think it's

693
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 2: a fascinating character and person.

694
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 3: What's interesting about this show is that I've never seen

695
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 3: a show where more people in the show are mad

696
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 3: about how they depicted, but then also are proven wrong in.

697
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 6: Multiple ways, like the video of fucking Magic, where he

698
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 6: was acting just like the motherfucker that he said he was.

699
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Jerry West being mad at.

700
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 6: His portrayal by reenacting his portrayal and saying he's gonna

701
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 6: fucking send somebody.

702
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 9: He's gonna go into the Supreme Court with this, you

703
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 9: know what I'm saying, Like, it's really weird seeing so

704
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 9: many people be mad at their portrayal, but also just

705
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 9: making it more believable, you know what I'm saying?

706
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 3: Interesting?

707
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 2: All right? Last topic for real? John tweeted today a

708
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 2: video of is a video that goes viral every six months.

709
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 4: On Twitter like that.

710
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 3: I'll be on there, but I don't be on there.

711
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 3: You feel me?

712
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 2: That sh was the of the of the moon from

713
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 2: the North Pole, looking, you know, taking up the whole sky.

714
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 4: He tweeted.

715
00:33:56,040 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 2: In all caps, is this real? And I said, my

716
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 2: brother in Christ, this is very much not real.

717
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 6: Bro. I saw that beautiful ass video and bro, bags

718
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:14,720
Speaker 6: were half packed?

719
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 3: What is this real? I needed like a few people

720
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 3: to tell me it was. I'm leaving my family for

721
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 3: a few days. I need to see this for my

722
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 3: mother's fuself.

723
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 6: That ship was beautiful and I didn't I didn't even

724
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 6: read a fucking word.

725
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 3: And then like you know, when I saw this ship,

726
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:37,879
Speaker 3: I read the ship North Paul all of that ship.

727
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 4: Ye, yeah, for sure, Yes, regardless of that dog.

728
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 6: You know, yeah, I got got, I got got.

729
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 3: This is no way.

730
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 2: You're a dreamer. That's what we love about you. You're

731
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 2: a dream the thing.

732
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 6: The thing is my imagination. It is a gift in

733
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 6: the curse. I'll create some great ship. Also, I'm extremely

734
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 6: fucking dull, you know what I mean.

735
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 2: It's trying. No, I mean, that's sincerely, it's I genuinely

736
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,399
Speaker 2: qualities about you that I really sincerely love.

737
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 3: Bro. I was so excited when I saw that ship

738
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 3: you have no I do.

739
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 2: I know exactly, I know exactly what you sounded like.

740
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 3: I'm like, this can't be real, but I pray to

741
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:15,919
Speaker 3: God it's real.

742
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

743
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 1: Man, I look at it like this, and the fucking

744
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 1: age of misinformation we're in, I'm totally fine with people

745
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: being tricked out into the marvels of science rather than

746
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 1: fucking the you know, trying to dispute it, right, because

747
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: this motherfuckers out there who think the moon is not real, Bro,

748
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:35,439
Speaker 1: it's legit.

749
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 4: Motherfuckers out there who believe that.

750
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: So if you believe, like like if you're on the

751
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: other side of this ship, and you're like, Wow, the

752
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 1: moon is fucking amazing.

753
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 4: This really happens in the Northfolk.

754
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: I think that's fucking harmless, you know what I mean,

755
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 1: compared to what you could be on in this age.

756
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 6: Watching a few too many Kyrie highlights. I think I

757
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 6: think I needed.

758
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 3: Stop staring at the footwork, you know what I mean.

759
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 3: I need to calm me down a little bit.

760
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 2: It is the this is the this is the best

761
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 2: that misinformation technology has ever given us.

762
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 4: Yes, like that was speaking of fucking Kyrie.

763
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: Did you see the whole fucking quote he put out

764
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 1: about you know, those who can build those who can't criticize,

765
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: like this motherfucker quoted Robert Moses. If you know who

766
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: that is, that's the motherfucker who like did a whole

767
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: lot of you know, New York's infrastructure design during the

768
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:27,800
Speaker 1: fucking twentieth century, who basically embedded racism and is fucking

769
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: you know, urban planning, And that's who this motherfucker quoted.

770
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 4: Man. So yeah, stay off the fucking YouTube videos, bro.

771
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 3: I was just watching you all.

772
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I said, like I said, you all, you

773
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,399
Speaker 1: on the good side of getting duped here, Like I said,

774
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: I think people who believe in the marvels of science

775
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: and get tricked out by that. I think that's harm's

776
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 1: compared to the other ship that you could be on.

777
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

778
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 3: I think what saves me as I was wondering if

779
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 3: it was real this? Do I get some credit by that?

780
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 2: Like?

781
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 3: Yo, is this real? Please?

782
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 2: John? Everyone on the podcast has a role to fill

783
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 2: in the boy band that is Jenkins pretty one, and

784
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 2: you're the pretty one, and you need to lead. It's

785
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 2: a good thing. You need to lean into that the

786
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:14,359
Speaker 2: pretty One solo you're Beyonce. No, all right, that's all

787
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 2: the time we got for Jenkins and Jones. Thanks for

788
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 2: hanging out with us. We'll be back on Monday. Enjoy

789
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 2: the games between now and then, and uh, we'll see

790
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 2: you guys in a couple of days.

791
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 4: Bye.

792
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 3: My