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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Big Bets on Campus Podcast. It's a

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Speaker 1: group of five deep dive. I'm your co host, Mike

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Speaker 1: Calvary's and the Dan Lefever to mind, Michael the burner turner,

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Speaker 1: Mike Ianello here in the flesh, along with our statue

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Speaker 1: stuff for I guess if I had to give you

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Speaker 1: a player of Maclure, I'll go Khalil Mac for Stucky.

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Speaker 1: I feel like you are outsize talent here playing in

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Speaker 1: the G five podcast. It feels good.

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Speaker 2: Second day and Around a guest on the College podcast,

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Speaker 2: which I've been recording college podcasts for Action before. It

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Speaker 2: was actually at Sports Action when we first started six

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Speaker 2: years now, and yesterday was the first time I was

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Speaker 2: a guest on the college and you did a good

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Speaker 2: job on a fuck fit, So I'm glad we're back

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Speaker 2: to talk. Max. Every degenerates favorite conference.

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Speaker 1: I know, what, what are your thoughts on getting into

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Speaker 1: Action long before they moved the Action to Tuesday nights.

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Speaker 3: Action, I think is is every gambler's favorite conference. I

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Speaker 3: don't know about you, guys, but I actually feel like

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Speaker 3: it's my favorite to bet on week to week, but

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Speaker 3: my least favorite to bet on it from a future's perspective,

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Speaker 3: because you just go into everything being like who the

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Speaker 3: hell knows. I mean, eight of the twelve teams in

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Speaker 3: the MAC have a win total at either five and

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Speaker 3: a half or six and a half, so it is

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Speaker 3: just any of them can go bowling. But it is

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Speaker 3: an honor to be joined by Stuckey. If you guys

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Speaker 3: haven't read his MAC manifesto, I'm pretty sure that's actually

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Speaker 3: the first time I found Action Network was Stucky's MAC manifesto.

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Speaker 2: I should get a bonus then for you should can

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Speaker 2: carry you. But I actually loved the fact. I mean

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Speaker 2: I spent a lot of time in MAC. I love it,

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Speaker 2: and all the conference re alignment stuff just I don't care.

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Speaker 2: Just don't take away the MAC and don't take away

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Speaker 2: weekday MAC. But I actually love the uncertainty and this

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Speaker 2: is the conference and we'll get into it to take shots.

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Speaker 2: Two years ago I hit ball State fourteen to one.

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Speaker 2: Last year should have hit Kent State. I got them

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Speaker 2: fifteen to one. And that damn Northern Illinois team got

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Speaker 2: me for like the fiftieth time in the conference championship

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Speaker 2: despite being an underdog. So yeah, this is the conference

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Speaker 2: to take darts, deferred darts. And because you can see

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Speaker 2: Central Michigan like three years ago when new coach won it,

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Speaker 2: I think twenty nineteen, they were fifty to one preseason

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Speaker 2: to win the MAC. So like, we'll get into some

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Speaker 2: potential darts. I have one that I already fired. I'm

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Stucky just alluded to it. With the

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Speaker 1: conference ree alignment UCLA and the Big ten Oklahoma to

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Speaker 1: be in the SEC, I feel like, in the same

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Speaker 1: way that archaeologists dig through a city and then they're like, oh,

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Speaker 1: if we go another ten feet down, there's a perfectly

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Speaker 1: the same teams. There's no one getting plucked, no one

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Speaker 1: getting added in. There's always some rumors, you know, year

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Speaker 1: over year that Western Kentucky year, Middle Tennessee you're enjoyed,

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Speaker 1: not this year. So we got these twelve teams. Let's

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Speaker 1: hop into it, starting with the West.

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Speaker 2: Got some unfinished business here in Toledo.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with the best and the best. Toledo win

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Speaker 1: total set at eight and a half. The unders Juice

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Speaker 1: at minus won twenty three to one to win the

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Speaker 1: mac sp plus offensive efficiency eighty seventh. I think that's

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Speaker 1: of the ball. And I'll run through kind of their

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Speaker 1: overview quickly here. Eight return on offense, seven on defense,

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Speaker 1: nearly upset Notre Dame last fall. In my opinion, this

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Speaker 1: him that MAC Championship. This is it. The defense last

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Speaker 1: Ohio State at San Diego State. If they can win

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Speaker 1: you know, absolutely bodes well for a nine or ten

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Speaker 1: you first, Stuckey. Are you as bullish on the rockets

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I think a lot of the top teams

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Speaker 2: Western Michigan, are going to take step back, a step back,

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Speaker 2: because of roster turnover. But I don't think Toledo is

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Speaker 2: one of those teams. They last year they won seven

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Speaker 2: five I believe in one possession games. Their three league

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Speaker 2: had an off year. Everything went wrong for them, and

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Speaker 2: then all their wins were in blowof fashion. And then

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Speaker 2: all their loss outside of a really just a stinker

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Speaker 2: All those things, and you lose all the close games.

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Speaker 2: The margins were so close for them. I have them

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Speaker 2: favored in eleven games. I have them favored at San

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Speaker 2: a loss. But yeah, I think this team. I love

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Speaker 2: the over eight. I think it opened actually at seven

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Speaker 2: and I have them six games as they in conference.

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Speaker 2: Just in conference, I have been favored in all eight,

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Speaker 2: six of them double digit favorites. Now, last year they

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Speaker 2: lost four games as double digit favorites. I don't see

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Speaker 2: that happening again. Defense loaded once again. They did lose

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Speaker 2: two dbacks in the NFL, but Tyson Anderson barely played

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Speaker 2: her all year. Defense still should be loaded. The offense

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Speaker 2: think this is Tweto's year ten ten win team. Love

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Speaker 1: All right, clean sweep here. I l O you won

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they have the best defense in the conference. I

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Speaker 3: don't really think it's close. I actually had higher expectations

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Speaker 3: for them last year, you know, kind of messed around,

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Speaker 3: lost a lot of close games, lost some bad games.

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Speaker 3: The Cara State loss was brutal, and you guys mentioned it.

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Speaker 3: I think Finn's the difference. He's the you know, presumed starter.

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Speaker 3: His team. Now he really didn't take over as a

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Speaker 3: you know this is Finns team, and yeah they lose

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Speaker 3: Brian Kobac, but like you said, they have a deep

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Speaker 3: their conference. To lose probably means they won't win it,

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Speaker 3: but I definitely like that over eight as well.

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Speaker 1: Kick off MAC should it's return here and this is

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Speaker 1: the best time of the year.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 1: We'll switch to a team that won every close game

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Speaker 1: last year, Northern Illinois seven wins as the win total

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Speaker 1: plus four to thirty to win the MAC fifty seventh

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Speaker 1: offensively one hundred and eighteenth sp plus defensive projection. As

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Speaker 1: I mentioned, the herd attack. Huskies are back after winning

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Speaker 1: eight games by single digits. Twenty twenty one. Offense should

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Speaker 1: be strong on the ground again, rocket the Bardi chips in.

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Speaker 1: There is a dual threat Harrison Whaley's back, Mason Blackmore

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Speaker 1: but they were awful last year. The entire secondary is back,

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Speaker 1: but they were only eighty fourth against the pass. They

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Speaker 1: sixties against the pass. But really, in terms of my

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Speaker 1: of like seven to one. I'm not going to play

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Speaker 1: the Huskies to win the entire conference. But when I

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Speaker 1: look at their win total, Eastern Illinois at home at Tulsa,

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Speaker 1: So I do think the absolute floor for them this year,

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Speaker 1: good on fourth down. You know, they almost won their

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Speaker 1: ten in the closing seconds. All of that being said,

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Speaker 1: I lean to the over, but I'm not as bullish

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Speaker 1: as I was on Toledo sucky. What are your thoughts

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Speaker 1: on the Huskies trying to at least use last year

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Speaker 1: as a springboard and to say we weren't lucky. It

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Speaker 1: was just, you know, we're we have experience, we can

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Speaker 1: handle the pressure of close games. Because we're going to

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Speaker 1: talk about a team in the East who lost every

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Speaker 1: close game that are projected to win their side of

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Speaker 1: the division this year. Sometimes it comes down to, like,

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Speaker 1: are you just bad in close games? Are you good

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Speaker 1: and not really a luck factor? Let me pitch it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I really don't know. I was all set Northern

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Speaker 2: don't know. I'm under Like if you ask me right

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Speaker 2: in the season ended, I hate that team to death

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Speaker 2: and my number just didn't get there like all the

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Speaker 2: because I'm conflicted in what's going to happen me right, Like,

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Speaker 2: they were extremely lucky, Like they won five games by

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Speaker 2: twenty five of thirty on fourth downs, which led the

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Speaker 2: winning every close game and then you know, say that

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Speaker 2: go to like fifteen of thirty. All those clost wins

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Speaker 2: swing to losses this year but then again they were

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Speaker 2: They only had one interception from their dbacks. They were

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know Ianello that it's difficult to be objective

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Speaker 3: I refuse to talk about this team I hate this team.

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Speaker 2: There's so many plays that I'm like, I just hate them.

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Speaker 2: Are you serious? Macshit?

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Speaker 3: You get out to love it?

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Speaker 1: I just heard a Chips reference. So let's go to

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Speaker 1: Have you Stucky any play here?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I think the numbers the spot on. Uh. I mean,

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Speaker 1: So now we're off to Western Michigan sudent at six

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Speaker 2: A half mitus one forty five was starting to get

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Speaker 2: This offense has major, major questions that the defense linebackers strong.

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Speaker 2: But look last year the past defense was good. The

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Speaker 2: I'm going under here, so.

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Speaker 1: bottom two teams that I feel diametrically opposed in terms

434
00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,000
Speaker 1: of where I think they'll end this year. Eastern sitting

435
00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:26,240
Speaker 1: at five and a half of their win till was

436
00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,360
Speaker 1: sixteen to one to win the Max seventy seventh defensive projection,

437
00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,000
Speaker 1: very offensive projection, one hundred and twenty third on defense.

438
00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,280
Speaker 1: Taylor Powell, a three star who's been everywhere but at

439
00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,399
Speaker 1: Mazoo but at Troy, hasn't caught on. He should be

440
00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:41,119
Speaker 1: their projected starter. Love this wide receiver corps headlined by

441
00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,040
Speaker 1: Hassan Badune. They could really have some punch on that

442
00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,800
Speaker 1: side of the ball. Defense was normal by MAX standards,

443
00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,159
Speaker 1: and by that I mean normal bad They only returned

444
00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:52,439
Speaker 1: five starters, but they did go heavy in the transfer

445
00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,600
Speaker 1: portal to try to bring in G five and P

446
00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:58,879
Speaker 1: five transfers to really elevate that defense. This schedule, I

447
00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:02,000
Speaker 1: think is interesting, as they get Eastern at home, then

448
00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,840
Speaker 1: at Louisiana, who's breaking in a new quarterback at Arizona

449
00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:08,200
Speaker 1: State that returns just six starters, and then against UMass

450
00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,320
Speaker 1: so I feel for sure there's two wins there. At

451
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:12,720
Speaker 1: Louisiana at Arizona State.

452
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:13,040
Speaker 2: I don't know.

453
00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,320
Speaker 1: I have this feeling that something may come together on

454
00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,439
Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball for Eastern, so I'm

455
00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,560
Speaker 1: bullish on them. I also, as Stucky brought up, you

456
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,439
Speaker 1: got to have one long shot in the MAC at

457
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,760
Speaker 1: least in your portfolio. This is mine. I've also seen

458
00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:27,760
Speaker 1: that out in the market at twenty to one. Certainly

459
00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,280
Speaker 1: interested at twenty to one to win the MAC. So

460
00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,800
Speaker 1: that's my pick here. And then as we look at

461
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,280
Speaker 1: ball State, four and a half of their win total

462
00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,400
Speaker 1: sixty to one to win the MAC, really really poor

463
00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,479
Speaker 1: projections on both sides the ball. One hundred and fifteenth

464
00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,000
Speaker 1: on oher, one hundred and sixteenth on D Listen. We're

465
00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,240
Speaker 1: not that far removed from a seven to one season

466
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,440
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty with a Bowl win, But they just

467
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,920
Speaker 1: got murdered last year by Georgia State in the Bowl game.

468
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:51,680
Speaker 1: I think that kind of left a sour taste in

469
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 1: my mouth. At least they only returned nine total starters.

470
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,840
Speaker 1: They have some good receivers, Johines Tyler being one of them,

471
00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,160
Speaker 1: but a new starting quarterback likely On Paddock, an undersize

472
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,200
Speaker 1: senior who's you know, kind of rode the pine for

473
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 1: all these years. The defense was bad last year, could

474
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,919
Speaker 1: be worse when you consider the schedule, just looking at

475
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:12,280
Speaker 1: the for sure losses at Tennessee, at Central, at Kent,

476
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 1: at Toledo, at Miami of Ohio. And then for the

477
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,040
Speaker 1: games that I feel good about their wins Murray State

478
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,159
Speaker 1: at Georgia Southern home against Yukon home against Ohio that

479
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,919
Speaker 1: only gets here to four. No room to stumble against

480
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,400
Speaker 1: Ohio or at Georgia Southern Statesboro not an easy place

481
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,240
Speaker 1: to play. I realize that they have a new system,

482
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,480
Speaker 1: a new head coach there, so I'm probably gonna go

483
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,320
Speaker 1: under on the Cardinals. What are your thoughts on these

484
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 1: two teams, the Eagles and Cardinals side by side, Any

485
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,639
Speaker 1: birds that you'd like to roll with here?

486
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,080
Speaker 3: I know, Yeah, I'm glad you said that, because I

487
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 3: had when I was going to like dip my toe

488
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 3: in and get the feel of the group. I like

489
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,399
Speaker 3: Eastern Michigan. I'm bullish on them. They lose both Preston

490
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,120
Speaker 3: Hotchinson and you know Ben Bryant. But like you said,

491
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 3: Taylor Powell's been around the block. He's you know, he

492
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,119
Speaker 3: started at Missouri, went Detroit, didn't really catch on. But

493
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,440
Speaker 3: I feel like, you know, the MAC is where bad

494
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,880
Speaker 3: quarterbacks tend to catch on. Shots fired. Rocky Lumbarty bring

495
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 3: back their top four receivers, they bring back four their

496
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 3: five offensive linemen. Their defense is always kind of a

497
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,679
Speaker 3: concern for some reason. Eastern Michigan just gets torched by

498
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 3: the run every year. They've had a good run defense

499
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,159
Speaker 3: in like four years, so that obviously is still a

500
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:16,920
Speaker 3: concern for me.

501
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 2: No undersize with d line all the time.

502
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,199
Speaker 3: They're always they're so small and they just get They

503
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,120
Speaker 3: give almost two ni yards per game on the ground

504
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,200
Speaker 3: for like four straight years, so but five and a half.

505
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 3: You look at the schedule, you know, Eastern Kentucky should

506
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,200
Speaker 3: be a win. Buffalo at home, you messed at home.

507
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,159
Speaker 3: You know they have Western, they have Akron is a

508
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 3: good one. So I think it's manageable that I'm with you.

509
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 3: I actually like this Eastern Michigan over They've been to

510
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 3: a bowl game in four of the last six years.

511
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:45,880
Speaker 3: One of the ones they missed was you know, twenty twenty,

512
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,640
Speaker 3: so I don't even really count that. So at five

513
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 3: and a half, you come, you come down and and

514
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 3: you need to win to go bullying, and you're playing

515
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 3: at home against Central Michigan late. I do like that

516
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 3: Eastern Michigan over boss say, I don't really have a

517
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 3: feeling like you said, Drew Putz gone. They got to

518
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,159
Speaker 3: break in a new quarterback. At least he has been

519
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 3: in the sism. He's in the backup for three years.

520
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 3: One of the nice things is about ball stay is

521
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,920
Speaker 3: they had so many injuries last year that they played

522
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 3: eleven different offensive linemen. So at least the guys have

523
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,440
Speaker 3: a lot of experience, so they have some depth there

524
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 3: just out of you know, the habit of last year.

525
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 3: But they were building a ton of defense new quarterback.

526
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 3: I'm gonna stay away foot ball state, but I do

527
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 3: like the Eastern Michigan over well.

528
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 2: I project both right around six. Eastern Michigan to me,

529
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 2: man if Bryant just stayed. But they seem to every

530
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 2: year play close games. There's so many close games. Every

531
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 2: one of their games is close. Doesn't matter if they're

532
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 2: playing like a really good team or so there's just

533
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,440
Speaker 2: a lot of variance in their results. I am a

534
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,440
Speaker 2: little bit worried about maybe some aggression for Eastern Michigan.

535
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 2: Last year they were number one red zone efficiency team

536
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,639
Speaker 2: or twenty to twenty eight. They have the second fewest

537
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 2: penalties per game last year, but if you look back

538
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 2: historically under Creighton, extremely good in that regard. So I

539
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 2: think they're pretty well coached, which works in their favor.

540
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 2: Eight aka the Fighting David lettermans his alma mater, Ball State.

541
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 2: I'm right on in the number two. The one thing

542
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 2: that I will say, I mean with Ball State, they're

543
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 2: numbers over five and a half. They don't get acered

544
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,919
Speaker 2: or Bowling green, which hirts, but they're six winnable home games, right,

545
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:19,400
Speaker 2: I mean Western Michigan, who's down Murray State, Eastern Michigan, Ohio,

546
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 2: and Northern Illinois. So their schedule isn't terrible, so I

547
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 2: could see it. But I'm worried about both of these

548
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:33,200
Speaker 2: special teams, both of the by my numbers, both of

549
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 2: these teams had top twenty special teams last year. That

550
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 2: never happens in the MAC. All the MAC special teams

551
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 2: are dreadful because these teams on have depth, right, So

552
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 2: then your guys like from you know in Alabama, the

553
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 2: guys on special teams are really good, but there's no

554
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 2: depth on these MAC team. There's special teams always stink.

555
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,880
Speaker 2: But last year he's fishly in a top twenty special teams.

556
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 2: They lose their stud kicker, their stud hunter, and their

557
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,479
Speaker 2: special teams coaches six years. They now have a red

558
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:02,119
Speaker 2: shirt freshman kicker and a punter. So two retro freshman

559
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,959
Speaker 2: kicker and punter. I think their special teams should drop.

560
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 2: And the team that plays a lot of close games

561
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 2: and it's a MAC that can matter ball state. I

562
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 2: think I had them the eighth in the special teams

563
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 2: last year. It was the only thing they did well

564
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 2: with special teams. They had a first team first team

565
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 2: all MAC punter. He's gone, their kicker, their kick returner

566
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 2: punter Rechard of Hall was really good. He's gone. Both

567
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 2: kickers are gone, and their special teams coaches seven years

568
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 2: is gone. So they might be the biggest special teams

569
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 2: drop year to year rankings in the entire nation. They

570
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 2: might go to bottom five. That's how quick it can

571
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 2: change the MAC. These close games, close margins. That's the

572
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 2: one thing that I worry about both of these teams

573
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 2: is the special teams, which which you'll see all the time,

574
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 2: will cost these MAC teams games at the end.

575
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,120
Speaker 3: If you did like ball State, you can get Fandel

576
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:46,919
Speaker 3: has an over four and a half at most one

577
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 3: thirty five, and then Eastern Michigan is jukee six and

578
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 3: a half at DraftKings, and then they have five and

579
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 3: a half at even money on the standuel.

580
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:55,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, East of Michigan, it feels like they'll go six

581
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 2: and six PIX. Let me remind you this is only

582
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 2: an exhibition, This is not a competition. Please, no wagering.

583
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 1: All right. We're back now with the MAC East, looking

584
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 1: at at least two teams that I think have a

585
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: puncher's chance to win it, and then trying to identify

586
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: at least one dark horse to potentially take a long

587
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,919
Speaker 1: shot on. We're gonna start with Miami of Ohio. Win

588
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 1: total set at seven plus through seventy five out there

589
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: somewhere in the market plus four to twenty five to

590
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 1: win the MAC sixty seventh offensive projection one hundred and First, defensively,

591
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 1: are they a wolf in sheep's clothing because they went

592
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 1: seven and six last year? Four of those six losses

593
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 1: came by a grand total of nine points. We brought

594
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 1: this up at the top of the program. Does that

595
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 1: mean that Chuck Morton can't win close games or does

596
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: it mean they're unlucky. That's for you to determine. Four

597
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 1: starters return on the offensive line to protect Brett Gabbert

598
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: twenty six tds only six picks last year. He's gonna

599
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 1: have to break in some new skill position players. But

600
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: he does get Mac Hippenhammer back. What a name, and

601
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 1: he's not just a great name, but also a big

602
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 1: play target. Five new starters working into the rotation. On

603
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: defense under Bill Breckin, he does add in Michael doll

604
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 1: whig can State transferred safety, one of the top defensive

605
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 1: recruits in the state of Ohio a few cycles back,

606
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: hoping to replace Sterling Weatherford. Losing Ivan Pace to sincy

607
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 1: Man that really hurts, as well as the loss of

608
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: Cameron Butler to UVA. If those guys were both back,

609
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: or even one of them, I think I'd be a

610
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 1: little bit more bullish. But given their losses on defense,

611
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: I think that leaves the Mac East kind of up

612
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: for grabs. Non conference, a Kentucky home againt Cincinnati at Northwestern.

613
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: I think they'll be more competitive against Cincy. Northwestern I

614
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,880
Speaker 1: think would be a win, although it is in Evanston.

615
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 1: So I'll kick into the group here. This is a

616
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 1: team that seems as though they were on the cusp

617
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: of something special. They certainly have reliable quarterback play. Where

618
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: are you on the RedHawks?

619
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 3: I know, yeah, like you said, I think when Brett

620
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 3: Gabber is healthy, he's the best quarterback in the MAC.

621
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 3: But that's a big if. You know, he's kind of

622
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 3: about injuries the last two years. Their backup. Last year,

623
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 3: Ajmayor transferred, so that is a big loss for them,

624
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 3: just given his history. Starting running back is expected to

625
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 3: be Jayale Investor, who was really good in twenty nineteen.

626
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 3: It's the same thing. You know, he missed all of

627
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 3: twenty twenty. He played like two games in twenty twenty one.

628
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 3: So I just do have a little bit of concern

629
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 3: with their offense given the injury history, and then their defense.

630
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 3: You know, Pace obviously was their best player, but they

631
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 3: also they just lose a ton of leadership, They lost

632
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 3: a ton of graduation. It's not like stars were transferring out.

633
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 3: It's just they were an old veteran defense and a

634
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 3: lot of those guys graduated, so they lose a ton

635
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 3: of leadership, they lose a ton of depth. So you know,

636
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 3: I obviously love Mac Hippenhammer, former Penn stator, but I'm

637
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 3: just I'm staying away from them personally. I just with

638
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 3: Gabbert's injury history. They're a team that I'll back when

639
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 3: he's there, but I don't want to invest in the

640
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 3: long term because I don't know they'll be healthy.

641
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 2: If he's not healthy, which has been as you alluded to,

642
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 2: Mike an issue in the past. Their backups with mayergon

643
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 2: one career pass attempt combined, so they all of a

644
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 2: sudden g It's really scary. And I think the loss

645
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 2: of Sorenston is huge. I mean, he was so reliable,

646
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 2: so underrated, just like a third down machine the receiver

647
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 2: swords and is gone. And I'm really worried about the defense.

648
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 2: I mean, you mentioned some of the losses. They also

649
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 2: lost their defensive coordinator, who I think is extremely underrated.

650
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 2: Actually went in conference to Ohio who will talk about

651
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 2: But they lost four really good defensive vents, one to

652
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 2: the NFL, and then now they lost almost everything in

653
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 2: the secondary. They might start four underclassmen in the secondary

654
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 2: with eleven combined career starts, so this past defense could

655
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 2: be really bad and then you lose pace a middle linebacker.

656
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 2: So I have a lot of questions about my Ohio.

657
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 2: I project them right around seven, which I think is

658
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 2: what they're implied win totals right around So I don't

659
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 2: see any that, but I do. I could see it

660
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 2: go and I don't trust Chuck Martin ultimately, but I

661
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 2: could see this going south, and especially if Gaverick gets hurt.

662
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 2: But there's a lot of holes here that I think.

663
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 2: It just opens up this division for potential, which division

664
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 2: is very weak by the way. I mean, look at

665
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 2: this division. It's Buffalo Kent State we're talking about with

666
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 2: Alton Crumb, Ohio, Akron Bowling Green in this find Viloley team.

667
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 2: So this my team is vulnerable. I had no position

668
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 2: on them preseason, but they allow me to be comfortable

669
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 2: to throw a dark which we'll get to.

670
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 1: It's been incredible. Maction has been phenomenal. I'm not going

671
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: to wait too long to get to a team I like.

672
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: Let's look at Kent State to five and a half

673
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: over minus one thirty on their win total nine to

674
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: one to win the MAC sixty sixth projection on offense

675
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty fifth on defense. For my money,

676
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,959
Speaker 1: I'm a believer in Sean Lewis. He's earned my respect.

677
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: O C Andrew Souder I think keeps this offense in

678
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: the top fifty conversation and probably a little bit better

679
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: because their running game could be special. Colin Sheeley coming

680
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: in for Dustin Crumb. He has some real nice wheels

681
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: to go along with Mark weiz Kop and Xavier Williams

682
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: run behind for returning offensive linemen. But the defense was awful,

683
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: So this for me comes down to what did you

684
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:10,959
Speaker 1: do to change that? They went out and they got

685
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: Jeremiah Johnson comes in from Northern Iowa. Really nice track

686
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: record at the SCS rank. I just like the new blood.

687
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: I like someone who has had success and given the

688
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: fact that they were in the one twenties in meaningful

689
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: metrics last year, if he gets them close to one hundred,

690
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: I think this team's going to go over their win total.

691
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: I think this team is going to win the East

692
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: and the only the only real concern I have what

693
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: is up with their athletic department? At Washington, at Oklahoma

694
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: at Georgia. Guys like I understand the paycheck games, but like,

695
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: give your kids a break. I know they slipped in

696
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: Long Island second time. We've talked about the Sharks on

697
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: the podcast, but like they're all on the road, they're

698
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 1: all brutal. You're gonna get physically beat up potentially by

699
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: Washington and Georgia. So if they can survive it and

700
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: come out of it without any key injuries to keep playmakers,

701
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: I'm bullish on the Golden Flashes. I think this offense,

702
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 1: I think no disrespect to Dustin Crumb. He was a

703
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: great mac quarterback, highly reliable. But I think they're going

704
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: to be able to keep this going. I know what

705
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: are your thoughts on the gold Flashes. Is the defense

706
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: is so bad that you're like, I can't put any

707
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: weight behind him.

708
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 3: No, because they were bad last year.

709
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 2: I'm with you.

710
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 3: This line at five and a half is disrespectful to

711
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 3: Sean Lewis. I think Sean Lewis is an excellent coach.

712
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 3: You can get a flat five at DraftKings will to

713
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 3: juice it. I think he's respectful to him. You mentioned that, yeah,

714
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 3: Crumb was awesome, but Honestly, the best part about him

715
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 3: last year especially was his legs third in the country

716
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 3: and rushing. And like you said, they bring back Cooper,

717
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 3: they bring back Williams and Connor Sheey is getting a

718
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 3: ton a ton of hype in camp. His teammates love him.

719
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 3: They're comparing him to Crumb. He's got a cannon arm,

720
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 3: he's freaky athletic. He looks more athletic than Crumb did.

721
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 3: To be honest with you, so I don't know they

722
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 3: bring back Dante Cephas, who was you know, all MAC

723
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 3: receiver last year. I don't know that this offense will

724
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 3: take much of a step back, if at all. They

725
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 3: were turned three offensive line, and they feel they filled

726
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 3: the two holes with you know, transfer from Michigan and

727
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 3: the transfer from Rutgers. So anytime you're bringing in big

728
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 3: ten offensive lineman, I'm gonna you know, I appreciate that.

729
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,240
Speaker 3: And like you mentioned, yeah, the defense is a concern,

730
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 3: but they sucked last year and they went to the

731
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 3: MAC Championship, so I don't necessarily think they're gonna be worse.

732
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 3: At five and a half, you're telling me, I think

733
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 3: this team's gonna drop from the Conference sidle game to

734
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 3: out of a ball. I don't see it. I don't

735
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,399
Speaker 3: think the offense takes as much of a step back

736
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 3: without Crumb as people are making it out to seem.

737
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna play over five and a half with

738
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 3: Kent State as well.

739
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 2: I disagree, and I'm still maybe I'm still mad Atkn'

740
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 2: State for last year for blowing that MAC title game.

741
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 2: But I think they actually lost three starters the offensive line.

742
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 2: But you guys, are you guys are just disrespecting Crumb.

743
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 2: He was he was the MAC Player of the Year.

744
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 2: And yeah, he looks great. She looks great in camp.

745
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 2: Guess what he's playing the Kent State defense every day.

746
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,240
Speaker 2: Of course he looks great. They have a new defensive

747
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 2: coordinator and he's moving them to a three three five.

748
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 2: So the hope is that, you know, schematically they can't

749
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 2: get much worse, that they get a little better. But

750
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,280
Speaker 2: they lost two good linebackers. I think Clark, who plays

751
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 2: like their freak linebacker positions, not safety. He got hurt

752
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 2: in the springs out for the year. They lost both

753
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 2: safeties their first team Wellmack cornerback. Now, I know the

754
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 2: defense wasn't good, so it doesn't really matter, but I'm

755
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 2: a lot worried about some of the losses, but I

756
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 2: think you're disrespecting Crumb. I'm not also sold on the

757
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 2: offensive line. I think there's some questions there, And what

758
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,919
Speaker 2: is the ceiling on their win seven, Like it's eight

759
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,720
Speaker 2: at most. You're gonna lose out Washington, Oklahoma and Georgia,

760
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 2: and then at Toledo I have a as a loss

761
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 2: and at miam Ohio tough game. I mean, they're really

762
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 2: not going to drop any with their defense and they're

763
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 2: gonna be in shootouts. So yeah, I project them at

764
00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 2: five four eight, I think. So I'm right right at

765
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:06,760
Speaker 2: five and a half, and like the floor is probably

766
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 2: pretty low in the ceilings, but the ceiling is also low.

767
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 2: I mean, so I'm sorry, the floor is like four

768
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 2: or five and then the ceiling is like seven or eight.

769
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 2: So it's gonna come down to like at Bowling Green

770
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,240
Speaker 2: and at Buffalo at the end of the year. So like, no, thanks,

771
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:27,240
Speaker 2: at least disrespect the crumb. Disrespect man Jesus.

772
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: The projections at least from our buddy Joe Desalva over

773
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,800
Speaker 1: at CFF, you know, the College Fantasy Football rankings. He

774
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: does mention that depending on how you evaluate returning starters

775
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: based on snaps, it could be for returning starters. They

776
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: also have a Michigan and a Rutgers transfer coming in

777
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 1: on the offensive line, so they made I just think

778
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 1: they're going to be good enough for an offense that

779
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,399
Speaker 1: has been so focused on it in recent years. And Chile,

780
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: I think is an upgrade as a runner. So yes,

781
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: you know they could have some pains throwing the football

782
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: with him in his first year, but with so much

783
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: of the focal point of their offense running through the

784
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: running game, are they saw the same kicker?

785
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 2: By the way, they can't kick off. They can't kick

786
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 2: it off. Every deposing team starts the forty every single time.

787
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 2: I mean, they score a touchdown quick, they kick it

788
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 2: off and the opposing team starts at the forty yard

789
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 2: line because they have a kicker who can't get the

790
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 2: ball past the twenty five insane. If you look at

791
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 2: their kickoff stats last year, every time the team's starting

792
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,399
Speaker 2: at midfield, they already had a terrible defense. That's why

793
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 2: all their games they played to Michigan, it's fifty they

794
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 2: it's like fifty five to fifty two. It's going to

795
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,720
Speaker 2: be like it's I'm not investing in Kent State window.

796
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 1: All right, I'll see you up for a team you're

797
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: investing in, and you tell me why all these negatives

798
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: are being overstated. How beautiful is maction? How beautiful is maction?

799
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: Oh Man, just when we thought we.

800
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:46,919
Speaker 3: Had peak maction.

801
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: So Ohio coming in five and a half. Is their

802
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 1: win total twenty to one to win the mac eighty

803
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 1: ninth on offense, one hundred and tenth on defense. The

804
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: Frank Solich era is clearly over Things were a mess

805
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: last year in Athens three and nine, only return five

806
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 1: on offense. Curtis Rourke is not his brother, certainly now

807
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: a difference maker quarterback. The old line could be very good,

808
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: but who's going to make plays? There were one hundred

809
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 1: and fifth in scoring last year. Defense couldn't stop the run.

810
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: So I'm not impressed with the fact that they bring

811
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: back five starters in their front seven because they couldn't

812
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 1: get a ton and they play at Penn State and

813
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: Iowa State early. Does that force their hand with work?

814
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 1: Does that mean a quarterback change? The C. J. Harris,

815
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: a former three star out of the state of Michigan.

816
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 1: For me, that's a lot of negatives. But I think

817
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: you have some good things to say about the Bobcats,

818
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:29,399
Speaker 1: so let me hear them.

819
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 2: Look, it can't get any worse than last year. I

820
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 2: mean last year. And by the way, going into last year,

821
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 2: they are five to one to win the BAC and

822
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 2: now I got them twenty five to one two days ago.

823
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,720
Speaker 2: That price is ridiculous in this division which is completely

824
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 2: wide open. Last year that I deal with a coaching

825
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 2: change that's behind them. Everything went wrong with the two

826
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 2: and four and one possession games. We're at the one

827
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 2: hundred and twentieth and turnover margin. I like to hire

828
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 2: the defensive coordinator higher, my high defensive coordinator with a

829
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 2: very experienced defense. They bring back four defensive backs to

830
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 2: start at least nine games. Tompson in the middle, Liivee

831
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 2: comes back from injury. My back are really strong, and

832
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 2: then they burned back eight of their top nine defensive

833
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 2: Linement's a really experienced defense. Whe I think a scheme

834
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 2: improvement and a good coordinator, but they're taking away from

835
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 2: one of their one of their competitors and division in

836
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 2: mine Ohio, and you mentioned the offensive line a lot

837
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,359
Speaker 2: more experience should be a little bit better this year.

838
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 2: I just think that this Look they were last year

839
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 2: five to one. A does this and we look, we

840
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 2: just talked about Ball State. They won the MAC in

841
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 2: dominant fashion, and then last year looked like the worst

842
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 2: team in the country. These things changed quick in the

843
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 2: MAC quick. So I just think twenty five to one

844
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 2: is an outrageous price to come out. All I needed

845
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 2: was to come out of this division. So can they all?

846
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 2: Can they win at Kent State in a fifty five

847
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 2: to fifty two game because Kent State kicks it to

848
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 2: the fifty every time? Sure, and then they win that game,

849
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, who knows you get

850
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 2: at You beat Acurate at home, you beat NIU at home,

851
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 2: you beat Buffalo at home, Bowling Green at home, you

852
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 2: win the division like that. That's how quick these things

853
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 2: can change in the MAC. We've seen it time and

854
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 2: time again. I think this price is crazy. And uh yeah,

855
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 2: from five to one to twenty five to one in

856
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 2: one season in the MAC in just a hard division.

857
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 2: So I think it's a dartworth throwing. Yeah. I mean,

858
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna sit here and preach about how great

859
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 2: this team is, but I think it's just disrespecting the

860
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 2: market price wise, I.

861
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: Mean stucky sounds like a drivetime radio host in Athens,

862
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: Ohio just going through the schedule. Northern win, Buffalo win,

863
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: at Miami, Ohio win. All right, So what are your

864
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: thoughts here? I n l O and this is past

865
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: for me.

866
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 2: But they just have to split. You split at at Kent,

867
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 2: you win at cantor Miami. And by the way, Gabbert

868
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:50,399
Speaker 2: gets hurt then becomes a mess. Can anyone can beat

869
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 2: Kent State? They're all all their games are gonna be

870
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 2: fifty five to fifty four. And that's assuming that these

871
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 2: camp reports on shere all are all correct.

872
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 3: Again, I know, stay away from me, although the one

873
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 3: I will defense Docky when, like you said at the

874
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 3: end of the day, if you played the Mega millions

875
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 3: last week, spending five dollars on Ohio is probably a

876
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 3: safer bet than the Mega millions, So you know, for

877
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 3: that price, you're throwing a dart in a division where

878
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 3: it's all just blind darts for the most part. So

879
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 3: I don't necessarily hate the future dart throw I wouldn't

880
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 3: bet their win total or anything like that. I don't

881
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 3: believe in Curtis Frourk. The one one defense. I will

882
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 3: say for how bad they looked last year is you know,

883
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 3: Frank Soldiz didn't retire until July fourteenth, so it was

884
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 3: so so late in the year, and then they were just,

885
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 3: you know, an absolute mess after that. I mean they

886
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 3: lost to Ducane, So you know, having the full off

887
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 3: season under Albin will help them. But I just really

888
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 3: have no feelings on this team.

889
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna go ahead and together these next

890
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: two teams because I'm confused about the differential in terms

891
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 1: of their odds to win the mac outright Buffalo with

892
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: a win total of five fifteen to one range to

893
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 1: win it ninety second on offense, one hundred and second

894
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 1: on defense, and sp plus projections. This team likes to

895
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 1: run the ball, no shock there. They only returned one

896
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 1: starter on the line. Ron Cook has upside, but the

897
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 1: only real experience he has is in the return game.

898
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,240
Speaker 1: I think he's got like four hundred career rushing yards.

899
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: Mike Washington could get touches in there as well, but

900
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 1: Matt Myers is back at quarterback and four t D's

901
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 1: five picks last year defense could be okay, six back

902
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 1: on that side of the ball, A lot of new

903
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 1: faces in the secondary, which was their strength at Maryland,

904
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: at Coastal, at Eastern Michigan early. I'm out on the

905
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: bowls here, but a team right behind them, at least

906
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: in the projections Bowling Green four and a half of

907
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: their win total. I know that Colin Wilson's probably moving

908
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 1: closer to his audio speaker. He's bullish on the Falcons

909
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: fifty to one to win the match at some books,

910
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,760
Speaker 1: one hundred and eighth on defense, seventy seven, one hundred

911
00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: and eighth in offense of projections, seventy seventh on defense.

912
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 1: The question is can they just pull it all together?

913
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: They got seventeen returning starters. The defense was great against

914
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,879
Speaker 1: the pass last year, nineteen yards allowed through the air.

915
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: Darren Anders could win MAC Defensive Player of the Year.

916
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 1: They have five preseason All MAC Defender's first or second

917
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 1: team selections. The offense has all the scale position players

918
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 1: back surrounding Matt MacDonald. I know it wasn't very good

919
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: last year, but at least they have that continuity. And

920
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: in terms of their schedule, yes, it's a challenging non

921
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: con at UCLA home against Marshall at Misissippi State, But

922
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 1: when I look at who they play and where they

923
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: play them within the conference Home against Miao, Ohio, home

924
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: against Kent at Central at Toledo. I think this is

925
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 1: definitely worth a flyer if you know, twenty to one

926
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: or twenty five to one on Ohio gets your chili

927
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: running hot, Bowling Green at fifty to one, why not.

928
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,280
Speaker 1: I'm finally buying into your theory that everyone potentially stinks

929
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 1: on this side of the mac stuckey. So where are

930
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 1: you on? Bowling Green?

931
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 2: Bowling Green at Ohio to close the year, by the way,

932
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 2: could be the difference Ohio Athens home field advantage. Yeah,

933
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,800
Speaker 2: I mean, Owen, great luck. You have to hand it

934
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 2: to what they did last year, and a lot of

935
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 2: it was Eric Lewis a defensive coordinator, or maybe it's

936
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 2: just getting rid of Van Gorder, who might be the

937
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 2: worst defensive coordinator in the history of college football. It

938
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 2: really shows you how.

939
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: Bad he was.

940
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's a really experienced team, one of the

941
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 2: most in the country as far as returning production. I

942
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 2: think at number one in the country and returning offensive production.

943
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 2: They only lost eleven Letterman. I mean a couple of

944
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 2: years ago this was this team was basically ninety five

945
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 2: percent freshmen. They do get three tough West draws, and

946
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 2: then you know they finished facing two teams off buys,

947
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 2: then back to back road games. So I don't really

948
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 2: love their schedule. How much better can their defense really

949
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 2: get is another thing that I am thinking about. I mean,

950
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,839
Speaker 2: like for a Mac team, their defense was really good

951
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 2: last year and it started a fall off towards the

952
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,760
Speaker 2: end of the year. I don't trust McDonald. This offense

953
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 2: still just frightens me. I don't have any opinion on

954
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 2: Bowling Green with Buffalo. I'm pretty close on projections. I

955
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 2: can see why people love them, but I could also

956
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:06,240
Speaker 2: see them winning going two and ten. In regards to Buffalo,

957
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 2: it's under nothing with Buffalo now it's a higher variance

958
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 2: team because it's just there's so many transfers they could start.

959
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:15,240
Speaker 2: I think thirteen transfers. I mean, they lost their quarterback,

960
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 2: running back, and right tackle unexpectedly in train in spring

961
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 2: of the transfer portal not good. It's very hard to

962
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 2: project how they're going to look like even their starters.

963
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 2: I think, I think, really, you're going to have twelve.

964
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 2: I think I have projected twelve transfer starters only five

965
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 2: home games. Derbyge tittles five and a half. I projected

966
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 2: them four to eight. Almost bet the under on them.

967
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 2: It's under nothing. But I don't really have any hot

968
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 2: takes on Bowling Green or Buffalo. Got into my head

969
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,800
Speaker 2: the third win total that I would have bet that,

970
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 2: which just was was close as Buffalo, but variants with

971
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 2: all the transfers kept me away and I just didn't

972
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 2: have enough edge to overcome that.

973
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 1: What do you think, Mike, do you have any strong

974
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:57,720
Speaker 1: takes on the Bulls or the Falcons in the spot?

975
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 3: Hey, hey, Colin Wilson. Bowling Green has a lot of

976
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,320
Speaker 3: returning starters. Yeah, it's Matt McDonald one of them. Yeah, no,

977
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 3: thank you. Then he stinks Bowling Green. The other thing too,

978
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 3: that is, you know, sneaky. A big loss for Bowling

979
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 3: Green is they lost their offensive coordinator, Terry Malone, who

980
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 3: is now an offensive analyst at LSU. Well, we talked

981
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 3: about how much I hate Scott Leffler. I called him

982
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,879
Speaker 3: a floor last year. I'm pretty sure Scott Leffler. Well,

983
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 3: remember against Buffalo last year when Leffler got ejected and

984
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 3: in eighteen minutes after he got ejected and Terry Malone

985
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 3: started call him plays, they scored twenty eight points, which

986
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:37,879
Speaker 3: is still the most States toured in any full game

987
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 3: in two seasons, so he's now gone. He scored more

988
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 3: in eighteen minutes than Leffler's done in two years, So

989
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 3: I don't believe in him. I don't believe in Matt McDonald.

990
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 3: I don't care how much they're returning. If he's one

991
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 3: of them, I'm out on the Falcons.

992
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 2: Buffalo also was an American kicker. By the way, I

993
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 2: know I'm talking about special teams wait too much, but

994
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 2: they had an All American kicker last year.

995
00:46:58,280 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 3: Have you had the talk special teams in the MAC?

996
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 3: It's the most variance of any conference where a make

997
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 3: or break games, and the only reason you watch it

998
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 3: is to watch someone field goals.

999
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 2: By the way, field goals will decide almost all these

1000
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 2: wind totals, I bet, and.

1001
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 3: They're usually playing in twenty million hour wins in front

1002
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 3: of four hundred people in the middle of nowhere, Michigan.

1003
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 3: But Buffalo's I'm with you guys were especially stucky where

1004
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 3: I think I don't have any action on them either way,

1005
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 3: because I could see it going either way. You know,

1006
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 3: you look at your returning production numbers and to me,

1007
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 3: they're like a little misleading because you know, Matt Myers

1008
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 3: was actually their starting quarterback to start the season in

1009
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 3: twenty nineteen, he got hurt, Van Trees takes over. He

1010
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 3: keeps the job for two years. So Myers has been

1011
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 3: this is his fourth year in the system. He's much

1012
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 3: more mobile than Van Trees was, which I do like,

1013
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 3: given you know that's only too their offensive line. The

1014
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 3: turnover is a little weird because you look at it

1015
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 3: and you know they're listed as returning one offensive line starter,

1016
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 3: but all their starters are seniors, so they do have

1017
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 3: a ton of depth. You look down their depth chart,

1018
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 3: it's you know, senior, senior, senior, senior they have. They're

1019
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,760
Speaker 3: starting like I think eight seniors on offense.

1020
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 2: So I do like second scheme, second year new schemes too.

1021
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're another team that lost their coach last year.

1022
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 3: They bring in Soaky said, they did a great job

1023
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 3: in transfers. They're bringing Justin Marshall from Louisville, Booby Curry

1024
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 3: from Arizona. They actually just signed the highest highest rated

1025
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 3: recruiting class in school history, so they're doing a good

1026
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 3: job there. Defense does lose a ton, but they bring

1027
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 3: back James Patterson at linebacker. You know, besides being my

1028
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 3: mother's favorite author, he's also been at Buffalo for what

1029
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 3: seems like seven years, So uh, I love having him

1030
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 3: back in the middle of that defense. But I'm just

1031
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 3: I'm still not sure what they're going to be. I

1032
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 3: think they actually could be better than people think, just

1033
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:51,359
Speaker 3: given how old they are, but they're probably stay away

1034
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 3: from me.

1035
00:48:54,840 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: Just SEH's all right, Let's round out the East here

1036
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 1: with Akron to and a half for the win total

1037
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 1: seventy five to one to win the Mac one hundred

1038
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: and twenty fourth on offense. I'm matching one hundred and

1039
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:15,879
Speaker 1: twenty fourth on defense in SP plus projections. Well, let's

1040
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 1: get this started. Welcome back to the Mac. Joe moorehead.

1041
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,399
Speaker 1: You know you got fifteen returning starters, both specialists DJ

1042
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 1: irons May I mean, I could see him flourishing in

1043
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: this system. It's probably going to take time and reps,

1044
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 1: but he has the athleticism to do it. They certainly

1045
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 1: have the pieces to run the ball a lot better

1046
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two, and they had multiple Power five

1047
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 1: transfers coming in at wide receiver and tight ends. The

1048
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: defense brings back three or four starters in the secondary

1049
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 1: that finished fifty fifth in the nation against the pass,

1050
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 1: they get any pass rush at all, they could actually

1051
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: be pretty good on that side of the ball. So

1052
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 1: it just comes down to the schedule. There's only one

1053
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 1: auto win. It's Saint Francis, PA, you know, the flashes there.

1054
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 1: Other than that win me, I'm not betting my life

1055
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 1: on that one. The rest there's certainly auto losses. Michigan

1056
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 1: State at Tennessee home against Central at Kent, Miami of

1057
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 1: Ohio at home at Northern Illinois. So that leaves in

1058
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 1: my eyes five toss up games at Liberty home against

1059
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:13,320
Speaker 1: Bowling Green at Ohio, Eastern Michigan at home at Buffalo.

1060
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 1: This is a no thanks for me. It could be

1061
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: on a weekly basis. If they you know, still get

1062
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 1: you know, priced out the way that they were playing

1063
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: last year and they're catching you know, thirty eight and

1064
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: a half points and stuff like that, I think they

1065
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 1: could have a little punch on offense and maybe they

1066
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,800
Speaker 1: don't give up all the explosive plays on defense. But

1067
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: that's as much optimism as I can squeeze out of

1068
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: this stone. What do you think Stuckey at Liberty I

1069
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 1: was a toss up game. By the way, that's pretty generous,

1070
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 1: isn't it. Brewers Brewers the quarterback at Liberty, So I'll

1071
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: make that that's also.

1072
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 2: I mean, don't be three touchdown underdogs. Yeah, I mean,

1073
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 2: here's the most Mac take of all time. Like I

1074
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 2: love the Morehead signing. They're actually gonna have a real offense.

1075
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 2: I love what he did in the transfer portal. They're

1076
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 2: also really experienced. They're bringing sixteen they have sixteen retarding starters,

1077
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 2: but they might start thirteen transfers, a lot of power

1078
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 2: five transfers, so high varrants could if everything goes right

1079
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 2: and it all comes together. Who knows. Again, it's the

1080
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 2: Mac fifty to one Central Michigan. No one gave them

1081
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 2: the shot couple years do they win it?

1082
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:13,919
Speaker 3: So I can't.

1083
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 2: I don't see three wins on the schedule. But if

1084
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 2: you want to throw, if you find one hundred to

1085
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 2: one out there and you want to have fun, just

1086
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 2: for like couch change, Yeah, I can't find three wins,

1087
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 2: but maybe bet them to win the Mac because this division,

1088
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 2: and who knows, everything would have to go right. I

1089
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 2: love the more Head signing. You know we got bowling

1090
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 2: green to start conference play at home, you win that game,

1091
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 2: and who knows, and you win the divisional list on

1092
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 2: this division kidding partially, Yeah, if you want to throw

1093
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 2: a dart just for shits and giggles on Akron and

1094
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 2: you're betting on everything coming together and then this this

1095
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 2: division just being the cluster fuck that it is? Sure,

1096
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 2: why not? But uh I project them two point six.

1097
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 2: So okay, I show a little value in the over,

1098
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 2: not enough to bet it, but I just don't see

1099
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 2: three wins like I can't. I can't feel confident it

1100
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 2: and it's not an avenge to bet the over. But

1101
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 2: one hundred to one, yeah.

1102
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 1: You heard it here first, everybody hashtag fear of the

1103
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 1: ruse stuck. He's in on them winning the mac at

1104
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 1: one hundred to one.

1105
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 2: I n l O.

1106
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:13,879
Speaker 1: Can you even play the over two and a half?

1107
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 1: Forget about the conference?

1108
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:18,359
Speaker 3: I definitely can't play the conference. Absolutely, I'm playing over

1109
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 3: two and a half and I'll I'll be the first tomit. Okay,

1110
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 3: maybe I'm biased because Joe Morehead is responsible for the

1111
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:26,800
Speaker 3: happiest day of my life other than my wedding. I

1112
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 3: guess not on a Marita happes to my wedding day,

1113
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,800
Speaker 3: so the second happiest day of my life. Twenty sixteen

1114
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 3: Big Ten Title game. I love this signing. I think

1115
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 3: Joe Morehead is a phenomenal coach, and I do think

1116
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 3: he's going to turn this program around.

1117
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 2: Three wins.

1118
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,879
Speaker 3: You mentioned it Saint Francis. That's the win. They've beaten

1119
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 3: Bowling Green like three or four years in a row.

1120
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 3: I hate Bowling Green. I'm giving that a win. And

1121
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 3: then they just got to win one other game. You

1122
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,240
Speaker 3: mentioned Eastern Michigan at a home, you know, at Buffalo.

1123
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:52,720
Speaker 3: You know the Mac is they could beat Northern Illinois,

1124
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 3: like the Mac is so weird that you never really

1125
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 3: know what's going to happen. And you mentioned DJ Irons

1126
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:03,720
Speaker 3: Mobile six six two fifteen. You know he's huge. I'll

1127
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 3: actually be honest, I would be all over this over

1128
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 3: if Zach Gibson was still there, because I loved him.

1129
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:11,839
Speaker 3: I thought he looked really, really good throwing the ball.

1130
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 3: Him transferring was a huge bummer for me. But you know,

1131
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 3: Joe Moray, when he had Tracing Sorely, another mobile quarterback,

1132
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 3: he saw his offense absolutely flourished. They would turn all

1133
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 3: five offensive line starts. They would turn their top three

1134
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 3: running backs. They had Kim Wiley from Minnesota. They lose Momfield,

1135
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 3: but they basically swap him out for Shaki Jacques Luie,

1136
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 3: who is maybe the most fun name to say in college.

1137
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:36,800
Speaker 3: I would say, and you mentioned what Morehead's done. In

1138
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 3: the transfer portal, they had a running back from Minnesota.

1139
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 3: They had a Wie receiver from LSU, wire resciver from

1140
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 3: pitt tight end from West Virginia, safety from West Virginia,

1141
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,320
Speaker 3: cornerback from Mississippi State, a d N from Syracuse, d

1142
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 3: N from Mississippi State. So they've added so many power

1143
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 3: five pieces to plug in. And sure, you know, you

1144
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 3: think it might take them while to jail, but I

1145
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 3: think they gang you to three wins because I'm giving

1146
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 3: them Saint Francis. I'm giving them Bowling Green, and then

1147
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,280
Speaker 3: I gotta get one more win. And I just trust

1148
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 3: Joe moorehead enough to improve this offense and figure it out.

1149
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 3: So give me the zips over to.

1150
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 1: And a half.

1151
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 2: You're saying, you're saying Aker can win all these games,

1152
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 2: and you're saying the upside take the hundred to one

1153
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 2: with all the Morehead love. You're just giving them a

1154
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 2: win out Northern Illinois Bowling Green. You said they win

1155
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 2: them off every and you won't take a flyer on

1156
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 2: the hundred to.

1157
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 1: One, fine, just fine, Just hop in, just hop into

1158
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 1: the kangaroo pouch, get on this bandwagon, and let's go

1159
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 1: like I don't.

1160
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 3: Know what the comme zip it off, baby, joemo baby.

1161
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 1: Okay, there we go. Now it's time for a quick

1162
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:40,320
Speaker 1: lightning round to wrap this up. Your favorite win total

1163
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 1: and your pick to actually win the conference. It could

1164
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:44,919
Speaker 1: be Akron if you want it to be. I'm gonna

1165
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 1: go simply because I really like what they potentially could have.

1166
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: On offense. It's Eastern Michigan over five and a half

1167
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 1: on their win total. I think Powell finally found finds

1168
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 1: a home wide receivers, like I said, are great. Hassan

1169
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 1: Badun is my guy, my favorite player, and they brought

1170
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: in so many G five and P five transfers in

1171
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 1: the mix. On defense, I think they are not going

1172
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 1: to finish anywhere close to their one hundred and twenty

1173
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 1: third ranking projection sp plus on that side of the ball.

1174
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 1: So go over on the Eagles, and then I like

1175
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 1: Kent State, it may require an anonymous phone call to say,

1176
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 1: if you're gonna kick off and not make it to

1177
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 1: the twenty five, just do it on side kick every

1178
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,439
Speaker 1: single time. Let's get ten percent of those and count

1179
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 1: them as turnovers. So I'm gonna go Kent State nine

1180
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 1: ten to one win the conference. Depending at which book

1181
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 1: you book it at, I'm on the Golden Flashes. How

1182
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 1: about you A and l O.

1183
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I also like the Eastern Michigan over. I like

1184
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 3: the Toledo over, but I seem to Tuck he's gonna

1185
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 3: take that. Yeah, I'll I'll go with Ackron over two

1186
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 3: and a half for my favorite over. Screw it, go

1187
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 3: with the Zips. I don't have really any futures. I

1188
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 3: think you know it sounds boring, But Toledo plus three eighty,

1189
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 3: I'll go with the Chalk. I just I think this

1190
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 3: is the year. I was on him last year and

1191
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:49,800
Speaker 3: they kind of disappointed me. So when you bet a

1192
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 3: team and then they don't win, they almost always come

1193
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 3: back and way at the following year. So I'll just

1194
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 3: double down and I'll take Toleo plus three eighties on

1195
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 3: a bad number for the favorite.

1196
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 1: All right, Stuck, you had a lot of spicy takes

1197
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 1: you gave us a mountain of special teams information. Does

1198
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 1: that factor into your favorite plays here?

1199
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:07,919
Speaker 2: Well? Yeah, with Western Michigan, of course, the special teams

1200
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 2: are going to be awful. It's always with all the

1201
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 2: losses on the offense offensive line lb Sky more new

1202
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 2: coordinator than the defense losing what they lost in the

1203
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 2: secondary defensive end. I think it's gonna be a long

1204
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 2: year for Western Michigan struggle to get to the Bowl.

1205
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 2: Elge but he cannot see seven wins on the horizon,

1206
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 2: so love that under the Toledo over sementia before have

1207
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 2: them as double digit favorites in eight games. Over eight,

1208
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 2: take care of business and ose eight you're at a

1209
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 2: big positive aggression candidate. With penalties, fourth down conversions, close games,

1210
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 2: your own five to one posession games. Last year, defense

1211
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:44,240
Speaker 2: should be loaded Deacon finn as the reigns of the offense.

1212
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,879
Speaker 2: I think Toledo, who have favored in eleven games, gets

1213
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 2: the nine or ten wins with ease and my pick

1214
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 2: to win the Mac. Let's get crazy as always, Ohio, bobcats.

1215
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 1: Baby, All right? That is it for the group of

1216
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 1: five deep dive under the big Bets on campus banner.

1217
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 1: I'm Mike Calabres. Thank you to Stucky for joining us

1218
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:08,800
Speaker 1: and carrying us through the final group of five conference previews.

1219
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 1: So we've hit all the way from the sun Belt

1220
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:13,839
Speaker 1: to the Mac Mountain West AAC Conference USA. We've done

1221
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 1: it all. Please check it out in your podcast feeds.

1222
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 1: Mike Ianello couldn't do it without you. Really looking forward

1223
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 1: to getting into Week zero chatter, but before then, we're

1224
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 1: going to go through so many conferences at the power

1225
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 1: five level, and that's bringing the big gun Stucky, Colin Wilson,

1226
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 1: Brett McMurphy. It's going to be a buffet of college

1227
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