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Speaker 1: All, Hi, welcome into another episode of By Order of

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Speaker 1: the Faithfuls. I'm wells alongside Dolores. Where's Tamra.

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Speaker 2: Oh, she has some house stuff to tend to today,

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Speaker 2: so we're gonna miss her.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited about today's episode because these two episodes seven

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Speaker 1: and eight are very, very fun. In season two of

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Speaker 1: Us Traders, we're back in the turret, Poverty and Phaedra

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Speaker 1: are waiting for Peter to join them. Did you ever

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Speaker 1: think that Peter, the Lord of the Faithfuls was ever

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Speaker 1: going to join the Traders?

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Speaker 3: You never know.

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Speaker 2: I knew when I was there not to talk about me,

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Speaker 2: but I said, I made it very clear at every

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Speaker 2: time I could to say, do not try to recruit me.

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Speaker 3: I will not come.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I am.

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Speaker 2: Surprised he turned it down, because even the best of

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Speaker 2: people don't.

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Speaker 1: So it's interesting to watch how he's moving through the house,

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Speaker 1: right because he is kind of holier than that and

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Speaker 1: won't accept this whole offer from the Traders. But then

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Speaker 1: you know, a couple of minutes later, he's like making

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Speaker 1: deals with Poverty that seemed like backdoor deals, and then

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Speaker 1: it's like, okay, well, you can be kind of shady

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Speaker 1: I guess. So I'm as confused as to as to

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Speaker 1: Peter's motivation.

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Speaker 2: So I feel that he wanted to play m hm

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Speaker 2: and but he he could not look the people. I

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Speaker 2: think his main thing was not being able to look

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Speaker 2: the people in the face that he became close with

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Speaker 2: and lied to them.

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Speaker 3: A backdoor deal. It's not so I feel like it's

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Speaker 3: not so.

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Speaker 2: Visceral, Like it's kind of uh making, I'm making moves

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Speaker 2: for everybody here.

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Speaker 1: You know, are you surprised that he didn't say anything

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Speaker 1: at breakfast the next day when you know, it was

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Speaker 1: obvious that no one was murdered, so someone was probably recruited.

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Speaker 2: No, that was the smart move. Yeah, what he did

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Speaker 2: was this was the smarter thing to do. He took

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Speaker 2: his what do they call him, the Peter Gang or whatever.

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Speaker 3: The Peter Pounds, the Peter Pals.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he kept it in house, which is which

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Speaker 2: is probably the best thing to do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Peter Palace. They get together for a quick

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Speaker 1: meeting when he tells them about the invitation. During the meeting,

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Speaker 1: Faeder at MJ Bow try to walk in the room,

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Speaker 1: but Peter asked them to leave. I feel like this

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Speaker 1: was a big mistake for him. He's starting to make

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Speaker 1: draw lines in the sand and kind of make enemies

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Speaker 1: with other people who aren't technically his enemy.

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Speaker 3: Right, which is which puts them on the chopping block. Right.

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Speaker 2: So it was funny because I don't know if you

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Speaker 2: saw it at the time, wells, I don't know if

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Speaker 2: you're an Instagram junkie like the rest of us social

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Speaker 2: media scrolling all day, but there was a meme of

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Speaker 2: MJ walking backwards very slowly.

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Speaker 3: Do you remember that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was like the Homer into the bushes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So it was kind of funny.

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Speaker 3: She's so cute.

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Speaker 2: But you know, I think that when it gets to

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Speaker 2: this point in the game, you have no choice to

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Speaker 2: put to do things a certain way that you would

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Speaker 2: have done differently in the beginning when there were so

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Speaker 2: many people. Yeah, you're kind of like forced to make

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Speaker 2: the decisions of keeping it in it close and it's

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Speaker 2: already obvious you have nothing to lose by doing it. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: You know, in this season when I went on the show,

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Speaker 1: I didn't make it very far, but one of my

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Speaker 1: thoughts was, is I'm gonna try to figure out who

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Speaker 1: Trader is and then I'm going to try to be

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Speaker 1: friends with them so I can be shielded by them

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Speaker 1: for a while. We'll smart before I, you know, before

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Speaker 1: I try to get rid of them. Where it doesn't

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Speaker 1: seem like that's the case with this one, Like it

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Speaker 1: seems like everyone's kind of got everyone's number right, Like

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Speaker 1: everyone's like everyone's on Phedra and everyone is on Parvity

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Speaker 1: except for Sandra, who is convinced Peter's a trader. And

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Speaker 1: I can understand Peter being annoying, Like it does seem

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Speaker 1: like everyone's annoyed by him and like him being the ringleader,

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Speaker 1: but he never screams to me trader.

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Speaker 3: No, he doesn't. And did you happen to notice?

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Speaker 2: Going back to when he was letting the Peter Pals

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Speaker 2: know that he turned down the invitation, John had a

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Speaker 2: oh you didn't. Yeah, Like, yeah, right, you turned it down.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think I mean?

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Speaker 2: Well, it almost put a target on him with the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but it didn't matter because didn't John Wasn't John

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Speaker 1: the one who lit his flame later on in the episode,

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Speaker 1: so he was able to flip him. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I think that you. I think the Traders did something

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Speaker 1: smart and something stupid. I don't think they should have

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Speaker 1: ever tried to recruit Peter because you need numbers in

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Speaker 1: that situation, like they are now at a disadvantage if you,

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Speaker 1: if you, if you don't say yes to that, right.

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Speaker 3: It was a major, major.

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Speaker 1: Mistake, major mistake. But then also it's smart because it

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Speaker 1: makes someone have to make a decision that is, no

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Speaker 1: matter what, going to look shady, right like, if he

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Speaker 1: doesn't say anything that's shady, if he does say something

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Speaker 1: that's shady, right like, Uh, there's a really kind of

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Speaker 1: no way to win. It's it's a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a kiss of death. I was thinking, and I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I felt bad they painted him into a corner, and

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Speaker 1: once that happened, now I was thinking, he's not long

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Speaker 2: Right, No he's not. But the way he was playing,

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Speaker 2: he wasn't going to win anyway. Yeah, you can't go

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Speaker 2: after the Traders the way he did and exclude other

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Speaker 3: And I feel like it's it's not a playing for

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Speaker 3: the long game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's really not like he is. He's now

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Speaker 1: gotten to a point where he's just trying to make

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Speaker 1: it day by day, you know, instead of have made

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Speaker 1: like he really probably should have been like poverty. I

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Speaker 1: know you're a trader, but I am. You know, I

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Speaker 1: want to make an alliance with you to get to

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Speaker 1: get further. But regardless, he played the way he wanted

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Speaker 2: You can never make a deal with a trader no

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Speaker 2: matter what, even in real life.

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're gonna They're going to stab you in the back,

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Speaker 2: even if it kills them, because that's their nature. They

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Speaker 2: stab each other in the back too, They stab each other.

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Speaker 2: That's the other thing.

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Speaker 1: Like I do feel like these first two seasons and

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Speaker 1: is that they don't stay unified together. They start throwing

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Speaker 1: it gets really really messy. I mean the fact that

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Speaker 1: Dan called Fader, I mean, this is getting a little

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Speaker 1: put in the cart before the horse. But like him

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Speaker 1: doing that made it very very obvious that Fadra is

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Speaker 1: absolve him of his sins, right, right, So it was

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Speaker 1: almost just like you should have never done that. If

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Speaker 3: The people that you get to trust you, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So the game kind of like, I feel like

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Speaker 2: it plays itself out because you can't control the events

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Speaker 2: you can't plan for it. I think the biggest mistake

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Speaker 3: With a strategy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like I didn't you walk in with a strategy,

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Speaker 2: and then when something there's too many moving parts it's

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Speaker 2: there like, now just screwed myself totally.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, it's a risk. Every day is a risk.

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Speaker 1: The mission that they do in episode seven looks like

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Speaker 1: it sucks. I mean it's like running through the forest,

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Speaker 1: running into like open water that's like covered with leaves.

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Speaker 1: Right the bad Peter and Traschelle they think that they're

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Speaker 1: they get the first question wrong, sending Peter into a

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Speaker 1: very funny. More than half the players get to the

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Speaker 1: sends them flying into the air in a giant net, which.

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Speaker 3: Like a big cocoon.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that that really happened or do you

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Speaker 1: think that those are stunt doubles? Back in the castle,

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Speaker 1: Peter finds out he's in the shopping block or are

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Speaker 1: you surprised that Heath was surprised that he was on

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Speaker 2: Yes, that I am surprised, but I'm like, bro, what

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're also just dividing people when you don't allow

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Speaker 1: What Sandra does, being like we got to look at

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Speaker 1: the numbers is so smart, right, Like, if you are

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Speaker 1: at some point, right, So we need to figure out

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Speaker 1: him surprised surprised me.

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Speaker 2: Right, well, I think you know, like I said, there

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Speaker 2: wasn't a lot of different things he could have done

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Speaker 2: and the less people he trusted, the better off he

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Speaker 3: And even in that, you don't know who to trust

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Speaker 2: You know, it was expected that he was going to

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Speaker 2: go anyway. It was like coming closed. But you know,

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Speaker 2: Sandra was in the military. I believe she was in

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Speaker 2: the army. Yeah, and I don't think she played like

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Speaker 2: she she hung in there, but she didn't get a lot.

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Speaker 3: Of things right.

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Speaker 1: No, I was thinking that this entire episode, these two

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Speaker 1: episodes of like you're so wrong on like every account,

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Speaker 1: I think. But I also wonder if sometimes you can

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Speaker 1: just be like I'm just trying to get to the

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Speaker 1: end and then I'll figure it all out.

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Speaker 2: Like I think myself, Yeah, that's how I won, by

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Speaker 2: the way, That's exactly how I won.

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Speaker 1: Well, and same with ct ct is Well, I think

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Speaker 1: he's smarter than he's letting off. But he's just like,

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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to get to the end and then

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Speaker 1: I will figure everything out, which I think Sandra's kind

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Speaker 1: of doing a little bit. You know. This is like

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Speaker 1: we are in like the Peter Powell's world in these

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Speaker 1: two episodes, Peter pulling Parverty and Phaedra aside. I will

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Speaker 1: say that I do think that Faedra does have a

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Speaker 1: tell with the eye twitch or whatnot. But I do

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Speaker 1: think her instincts are very very smart and right. When

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Speaker 1: Totally. Are you surprised that CT didn't save Trischelle and

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Speaker 2: So it was weird. I don't even know why CT

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Speaker 3: I know.

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Speaker 2: But wells, Okay, you're a nice guy, and that doesn't

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Speaker 3: I just want to let you know, like you are

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Speaker 1: There were just simple men, all right. So only four

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Speaker 2: He's underestimated, right, but but he he he goes on

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Speaker 2: He's really nice. You can't like dislike the guy in

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Speaker 1: Someone's got to die. Trachelle is bloodhounding on Phaedra after

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Speaker 1: She convinces Peter to also go along this and take

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Speaker 2: Right, that hasn't happened yet now because because them getting

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Speaker 1: somebody else. I I That's just was my thought is that,

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Speaker 2: And that goes to her telling Poverty, you are a

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Speaker 2: I think Faedra was trying to tell her, you get

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Speaker 3: Nicer you are, less people will vote for you. Somebody's

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Speaker 1: I mean it is like it's her face and it's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, very very true. The mission that they do

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Speaker 1: I know you guys did this. I guess me. You

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Speaker 2: No, because Chrishelle. The first thing she said when we

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I said, I don't do close spaces. So

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. Yeah, you guys had a plan.

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Speaker 3: She didn't tell me she was gonna do it.

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Speaker 2: And it's funny because when it airs, she called me

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Speaker 1: Oh oh see, not doing that. The only one to

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Speaker 1: that he pulled the gold out of his pants and said,

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Speaker 3: You know, you think that's fine? I mean, I guess,

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Speaker 1: under a attack. She blames her friendship with Dan for

438
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 1: how she's being perceived, and it's like, yeah, of course

439
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 1: you good call though, Yeah, she's in a tough spot,

440
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 1: Like I don't even know how you can argue this

441
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 1: at this.

442
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 3: Point, No you can't. And she came up with a

443
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 3: good one. I'm impressed. Yeah she's sharp, she's no slouch.

444
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. Trachelle's like, yeah, I don't care. I want to

445
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 1: talk about Faitra and she you know, it's it's I

446
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 1: can see the edit when I was watching it, she

447
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 1: was like, I'm gonna start with like the least some

448
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 1: salacious stuff and then kind of like give you my

449
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,880
Speaker 1: like big reasons at the end, and they really only

450
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,199
Speaker 1: gave two. I have a feeling she had three or

451
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,880
Speaker 1: four or five that she had, like in the Chamber

452
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 1: against Phaedia, but they only showed two. The eye twitch

453
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 1: is something that I have noticed. I'm not sure if

454
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:19,679
Speaker 1: you noticed it when you've been watching.

455
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:21,159
Speaker 3: I did not.

456
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 1: Her big thing is that when anytime they're talking about

457
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 1: traders or like who the traders are, that that Fadria

458
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 1: kind of kind of does like one eye twitch like that.

459
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 2: Wow, that's interesting. I can't get past the lashes.

460
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 1: Well, and that's like I think the argument is, like

461
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 1: I'm surprised she wasn't like child, I've got giant lash,

462
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 1: you know, like that's what's happening. But she just got

463
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,920
Speaker 1: kind of got the defensive of it. John says, ParvE

464
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 1: could be. This is this is when when John really shines.

465
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 3: All right, yeah, I remember this.

466
00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, he starts using alliteration and you know, sing song.

467
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:07,159
Speaker 1: He goes like full William Shakespeare and calls poverty the

468
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 1: Duchess of deception.

469
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:13,120
Speaker 2: And when she thought she was playing him right from

470
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 2: the beginning, crying to him, he never fell for her.

471
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 2: Oh ah, you know, John, something tells me you've fallen

472
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:22,440
Speaker 2: for a few in your.

473
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 3: Day, and now you know one when you see one.

474
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure he's two.

475
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 3: Schooled on that. It is not his first time.

476
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's known a few ice queens in his days.

477
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 3: He's known a.

478
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 2: Few wise queens and he has Yeah, he's seen that

479
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 2: person a couple of times in his life, so he

480
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,399
Speaker 2: recognized it right away. If you'll go back to the

481
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 2: beginning when she's crying I'm a single mother, and he's like, oh,

482
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 2: poor thing. And then he walks away and he's like, yeah, right, yeah,

483
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 2: the last one time I fell for that cross my pension.

484
00:25:56,359 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. Phaeder reveals that Peter asked her in poverty to

485
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,199
Speaker 1: work with him, and I thought this was good on

486
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 1: Phaedro's part, try to get some of the stank off her.

487
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: Peter says he was being cocky and joking around, which

488
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 1: I thought was a weird way to explain that.

489
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 3: Right, I agree, and there was a better way to

490
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 3: do that.

491
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then you know, I love Kate one. I

492
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 1: love how she makes TV and it's just like so entertaining.

493
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 1: But she's been right about a lot of stuff, especially

494
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 1: in the first season. But her questioning Peter's sudden switch,

495
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,160
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, okay, Like, I don't know why

496
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 1: you're going after him, And I could be wrong, but

497
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 1: I think it has more to do with Kate is

498
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 1: annoyed by Peter.

499
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,679
Speaker 3: So Kate gets annoyed by a lot of people.

500
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then they get on her nurse and she

501
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 2: just wants them to go. Whether it's whether they're a

502
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 2: trader or not, she just wants to not see them

503
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 2: anymore because she don't even want.

504
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 3: To be there.

505
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:08,199
Speaker 1: Yeah. So yeah, all right, so finally everyone votes. This

506
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 1: one's actually a pretty good vote. There are seven for poverty,

507
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,199
Speaker 1: there are four votes for Phedra. But it kind of

508
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: comes down to CT and Parvey's banished and reveals that

509
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 1: of course she is. It's like no one was surprised

510
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 1: that she was a trader.

511
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 3: Nobody.

512
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then we go to you know, like the

513
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 1: post round table. They all get drinks, which I wish

514
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 1: we got conversation where Peter where Kevin starts saying that

515
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 1: he doesn't feel good about Peter changing his mind about

516
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 1: poverty last minute.

517
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 3: I agree with that.

518
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I can totally see that being weird

519
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: and annoying.

520
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,439
Speaker 2: Because he was so hung up on it. Yeah, you know,

521
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 2: and that's sketchy. That's really sketch. And that's on the

522
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 2: heels of him telling them he got recruited and turned

523
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 2: it down. Yeah, that's a big red flag. I'm sorry,

524
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 2: that would make me not trust him either.

525
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 1: You're right, you're right, big mistake. Peter pulls Kate, which

526
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,919
Speaker 1: seems like a fool's errand like, I'm not sure if

527
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 1: you're going to convince Kate of anything really, but that

528
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: he's now.

529
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 2: No one ever has not on TV or off TV.

530
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:28,360
Speaker 2: She's dangerous. She's one of my dearest friends. I love her.

531
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,160
Speaker 3: But Kate marches to the beat of her own drum.

532
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, Peter tells her that, you know, he's

533
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: going to vote out parby the next roundtable. But you know,

534
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: Kate's just not buying it. So we're down to one trader.

535
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 1: Phedro walks in the turret alone tonight. Obviously she has

536
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: to recruit someone or they're just going to run out

537
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 1: of numbers because it's obvious that everyone's on her. If

538
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 1: they don't accept their offer, they will be murdered. So

539
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: this is the way the show said, as we're not

540
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 1: doing this like you get to choose anymore. It's either

541
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: you accept or you go home.

542
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 3: Right. I guess they changed that, Yeah, I don't. I

543
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 3: think like.

544
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 2: Peter made case law. Pilot Pede over there, he made

545
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 2: case law. He said.

546
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 3: They were like, whoa, we didn't expect this.

547
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 2: He threw a curve ball to them, so they had

548
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 2: to come up with, yeah, something to make that not

549
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 2: be able to happen.

550
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 1: I was thinking about this, you know, for our season.

551
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: My thought was that the Traders played a really bad game,

552
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 1: and that was the kind of why I got kicked out,

553
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 1: was me saying, like I thought that one of their

554
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: murders was stupid. I'm wondering what you think this season is.

555
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: Do you think this is a season of really good

556
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: Faithfuls or a season of really bad Traders, because it

557
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 1: seems like we've got a couple episodes left and it

558
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 1: seems like the Faithfuls they know who the bad guys

559
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: are right off the bat.

560
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 2: I don't think that the Traders were bad at all.

561
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 2: I think they were very strategic. I think they're inherently smart.

562
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 2: Phaedra was is brilliant. Yeah, I mean, look at look

563
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 2: at who the Traders are. They're two brilliant, witty. I mean,

564
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 2: poverty got someone to drink out of a rusty cup

565
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 2: and killed someone. Not everybody could have done that, right

566
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 2: So I think the Traders were spot on amazing. Dan

567
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 2: not so much, but rightfully so got taken out.

568
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 3: So I think this is.

569
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 2: A very good group of Trader I mean Faithfuls.

570
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 3: I think had.

571
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 2: I think the show would have went a lot differently

572
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 2: if there were less smart Faithfuls.

573
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: I want to say I'm impressed with this season's Faithful.

574
00:30:55,240 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 1: They all seem like very cerebral and very organized almost

575
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 1: And I do think that things that have been so

576
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: much different if Dan had gone about things differently. I

577
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: think that he was one of the reasons why everything

578
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 1: is kind of tumbling around the Traders, especially with.

579
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 2: A lot of the residuals of what he did. The

580
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 2: mistakes he made in the game are the demise of

581
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 2: the Traders down the road. So I just want to

582
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 2: say that he was not a good trader. I don't

583
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 2: think no offense Dan, but the other two were. And listen, uh,

584
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 2: when you're not working alone, things like that happen, right. Yeah,

585
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 2: Paul always says to me, partners are made for dancing. Now,

586
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 2: sometimes it doesn't work out.

587
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: I mean, if you think about it, the reason why

588
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: people were really on Poverty is because he was. She

589
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: was so close with Dan, And the reason why people

590
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: are on Phaedra is because because Dan called her out,

591
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: balled her out, and so like the lynchpin for like

592
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 1: taking down this entire thing, much to the delight of

593
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: the faithfuls, Phader has to has to recruit somebody. I

594
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: don't know if I think there's a better recruitment option

595
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: than Kate.

596
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 3: And this juncture. I'm thinking, no, who in their.

597
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: Right mind would think that Kate's a trader? You know,

598
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: like I, I would never be able to pin that.

599
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 2: No One, Yeah, no one, especially someone so not interested

600
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 2: in the like Yeah. Anyway, I think I think all

601
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 2: choices this season were really good.

602
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: I have to say, I just honestly, I think one

603
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 1: of the big missteps that the Traders made in the

604
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: first recruitment is that they should have gone to Kate

605
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: instead of going to Peter.

606
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 3: But then but.

607
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 2: No, but see, this is either you join us or

608
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 2: you die and that and and Kate only says yes

609
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 2: because she had no choice.

610
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: I know. I'm saying that they should have used they

611
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: should have asked Kate instead of Peter. I think things

612
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: would have been different for the for the Traders if

613
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: they had done that. What how so it would have

614
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: given them numbers. I understand both sides. So you know,

615
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: if if you can get Peter, then it gets you

616
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 1: to have someone that can manipulate the Peter or yeah, right,

617
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: But if you get Kate, then I do think that

618
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 1: because everyone was so kind of grossed out by Peter

619
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: showing people away that they would have been able to

620
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: get Sandra, they would have been able to get oh sure, yeah,

621
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 1: And I think that they would have been able to

622
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 1: have the numbers. And with with the the thing of

623
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 1: no one ever expecting Kate to be a trader. I

624
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: don't know, I was just thinking about it was I

625
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: think that Poverty was so dead set on something with

626
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: Peter that she missed the big picture, which was the

627
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 1: thing is is that we need numbers in the turret.

628
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: We don't need to like pull away the one guy

629
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:15,320
Speaker 1: who's trying to kill you. They every day. We need numbers.

630
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 1: And I think that that was the big miscalculation in

631
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: this episode. But who knows. I mean, hindsight's twenty twenty.

632
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 2: It's easier. It's easy to say what someone should do

633
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 2: from watching. Yah, don't we know that by now?

634
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 3: Right? It's so hard?

635
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: Only a couple episodes left with this season.

636
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 3: Do you remember how the season ends?

637
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: Yes?

638
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,320
Speaker 3: Well, it's insane.

639
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: I got end.

640
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you the truth. I cried a little,

641
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 2: really probably last time I cried. Yeah, I was like

642
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 2: felt a little emotional. No, I felt like emotion mm hmm.

643
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 2: It was bad I was like, Oh, it punched me

644
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:55,280
Speaker 2: in my gut.

645
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we won't spoil it for you guys out

646
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 1: there who might be watching it for the first time

647
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: or don't remember it from when it aired. But yeah,

648
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: we'll be back again next week to talk more Traders

649
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: and Faithfuls. Anything else do you want to talk about

650
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: this season before we go? Floris?

651
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 2: For me, I'm looking forward to the end because I

652
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 2: want to know, like, I just need to talk about it.

653
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 2: It's like therapy for me. I have PTSD from it.

654
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 2: It's like crazy. So yeah, no, I'm I think this

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Speaker 2: is this was the kick off season where people got

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Speaker 2: really hooked.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was thinking about it, like I like the

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Speaker 1: first season, but this season is so fun to watch.

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Speaker 3: This solidified like we're onto something here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I do believe that the reason why the show

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Speaker 1: became such a big success in the US was because

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Speaker 1: of this one.

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Speaker 3: For sure, I'd have to say yes, and then next.

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Speaker 1: Even and then of course then you done our television

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Speaker 1: screens and.

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Speaker 2: You too, and the ratings just Scott skyrocketed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: All right, all you faithfuls and traders out there, if

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Speaker 1: you don't follow us on social media, please do. We

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Speaker 1: are at by order of the faithfuls. On Instagram, we've

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Speaker 1: got clips there. You can dm us there your questions.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you tell all your friends and all your

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Speaker 1: to us, Please subscribe and tell your friends, and we'll

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Speaker 1: be back again next week, breaking down everything from season

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Speaker 1: two of The Traders.

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Speaker 3: Bye wells, thank you,