1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: Rocking, the blue blockers, the Orange bill volunteers cap the 2 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 1: whole deal a fishing gear shortage. Not a single rattle 3 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: trap or fibrats anywhere to be seen. The coronavirus is 4 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: hands down the best thing that ever happened to stripe 5 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: a surf fishing ever. I mean, I ain't smiled this 6 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 1: much since Deep Throw was in Theontis. White deck boots 7 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: are welcome. You will still get served the cheese cards 8 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: when you walk in, sweating and leaking snot after a 9 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: day on the ice. Good morning, degenerate angler is welcome 10 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 1: to Bent, where we invite fishermen from all walks of life, 11 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: all skill levels, and all factions to unite. I'm Joe 12 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: Surmelie and I'm Miles Nulty. And the way I described 13 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: this for those of you lucky enough to remember such 14 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: an awesome thing, this is like an like an eighth 15 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: grade mix tape about fishing, uh, fishing and whatever the 16 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: hell else we feel like talking about. But Joe, I 17 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: really don't think that anyone makes mix tapes anymore. I 18 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 1: think I think the kids call them playlists. Now, No 19 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: they don't. That's a shame. I don't even know if 20 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: you can buy blank tapes anymore, though, I do remember 21 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 1: that my last mix tape had White Rabbit by Jefferson 22 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: Airplane followed by a bunch of no effects tracks. You 23 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 1: have to I know you're a music guy. What was 24 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,119 Speaker 1: on your last mix tape? Dude? I don't, if I'm 25 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 1: being honest, I don't remember the music that was on it. 26 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: It was probably no effects or something around there. But 27 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: what I do remember is I had this tape called 28 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:33,119 Speaker 1: Forbidden Spanish. That was how I learned bad words in Spanish, 29 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 1: and I would include little snippets of that in between 30 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: the songs that I recorded onto the mix tapes that 31 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:41,839 Speaker 1: I would then give the girls, hoping they would laugh 32 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: and that that, you know, them being amused would make 33 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: them like me. Did it work? Not really? No, Okay, 34 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: I feel that pain. I did the similar thing with 35 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: Jerky Boys clips. Anyway, enough about that. Look, to be 36 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: upfront with you guys, our plan was definitely not to 37 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: launch this podcast in the middle of a global pandemic. 38 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: Yet here we are, and so you understand exactly where 39 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: we are. Miles is actually in Montana, and I'm on 40 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 1: the other side of the country, east side, right outside 41 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: of Philadelphia, and man, it's it's been a roller coaster 42 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: with the covids for a while. There. I was in 43 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: COVID hell and and and Miles had clean living, and 44 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 1: now there's there was the COVID's there, and now we're 45 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: supposedly doing good and now I don't know, everybody just 46 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: has the COVID. So we'll we'll just we'll just go 47 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 1: with it. But you know what, um, despite pandemics, we're 48 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: pressing on and we're we're giving this thing a go. Yeah, 49 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: and you know what, forever, everyone out there, I think 50 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 1: you're probably gonna agree with me when when everything feels 51 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: so shitty as it does right now, the the real 52 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: only responses just to go fishing. So that's what we're 53 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 1: trying to do. I never really stopped fishing, though. It 54 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: just was weird there for a few months, with like 55 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 1: who you're allowed to fish with and who you can't. 56 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: Can you leave the house? Can you not? But we 57 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: we do have a regional fishing report for you guys 58 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 1: this week. That's that's something we're gonna be doing weekly. Uh. 59 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: It's weird though, because we're gonna play a report for 60 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: you guys that's actually a few months old and I 61 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: do understand that an old fishing report isn't really that useful, 62 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 1: but you guys have to hear this. And this came 63 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: in over the Bent phone, which is just similar to 64 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: the bat phone, and our answering machine actually does use 65 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 1: a tape because we don't have the budget for for digital. 66 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: But this one's coming in from Stryper's surf fishing legend, 67 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: Bob the garbage Man Britan and on a new Ski, 68 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,239 Speaker 1: who has been a fixture in the Jersey surf scene 69 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: since long before I was born. Okay, he he's an 70 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: absolute legend. He only uses chunks of man haden, which 71 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: we call bunker, and vehemently opposes the use of artificial 72 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: lures in the surf. And I'll just say, this is 73 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: going to take you back to when quarantine was like 74 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: really bad. But sometimes you have to examine where you've 75 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: been to understand where you are. I think that's I 76 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: think that's an inspirational meme that I saw my inspirational 77 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: meme app anyway, kicking it back a few months to 78 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: the height of quarantine with Bob g who will inspire you. 79 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: Hello out there and Radio Wind. This is strip a 80 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: chunkin egs. But Bob the cobbage Man Britana Nona Newski. 81 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: As per usual, I'm calling him my weekly East Coast 82 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: strip of fishing report from the pay phone on the 83 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: corner of Baltic and MLK here in Atlantic City, New Jersey. 84 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: That don't worry. I poured hot coffee over the receiver 85 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: to disinfect it before dialing out. You gotta be smarting 86 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 1: times like these, you know what I'm saying. Anyway, are 87 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: gonna be real honest with you. As far as I'm concerned, 88 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: the coronavirus is hands down the best thing that ever 89 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: happened to stripe a surf fishing ever. I mean, I 90 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: ain't smiled this much since Deep Throw was in theaters. 91 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: For the first time in my life. I could tell 92 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 1: somebody to get the away from me and then add 93 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: quote by order of law soul. But let me tell 94 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: you I've been chumping spots. I ain't fished since eight 95 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: seven eight eight because I don't have to worry about it. 96 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 1: Momo snagging my line with this pencil. Daughter. You know 97 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's a mook free environment right now. 98 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: There's nobody out asking me stupid questions like hey, Bob. 99 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: Ain't you worried about the coronavirus because you smoke so much? Anyways, 100 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:30,919 Speaker 1: listen kidding the side. For your safety, you need to 101 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: stay at home, be smart, and if it's any consolation, 102 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 1: you ain't missing much. Okay, but I absolutely did not 103 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: mow down three plus pound bass and only a two 104 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: hours soaked on the beach right in front of the 105 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: old Trump Plaza the other day. For those of you 106 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,359 Speaker 1: desperate to get back on the bulkhead over there clam Creek. 107 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 1: Don't rush. I only call one stud and about twenty 108 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 1: five low forties and a five hour soaked there the 109 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 1: other night. It's slow. Stay home, you know the coroner's 110 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 1: water is going to get rid. For the rest of 111 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: the stripe of coast, it's pretty much the same story. 112 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: My old friend Jimmy the Gooch on the south shore 113 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: of Long Island has been quarantine a fire island with 114 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 1: for two weeks and his advising friends and family to 115 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: please worry about secure and bread, eggs and milk, before 116 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,559 Speaker 1: being concerned about where to get fresh bunk of the chunk, 117 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: though he has informed me he has plenty and he's 118 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 1: selling one bunk of for thirteen dollars and two for 119 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 1: twenty six, not that you needed. He ain't catching nothing, 120 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: oh sh keeping a straight face. He's murdering them fifty 121 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: sliding through the suns like they're on a goddamn convey about. 122 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:50,559 Speaker 1: He's grugged. So that's it for this week. Once again, 123 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: I can't stress enough that the overriding messages stay of 124 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 1: come for a year maybe two better safe. That's sorry, 125 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: you're dumb. This that was. That was pretty weird, man. 126 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: I've definitely never heard Bob that optimistic. That was. Hearing 127 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: Bob that happy is creepier than walking into my local 128 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: grocery store and having everybody's faces covered up in cloth 129 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: like that is just straight up creepy. He was. He 130 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: was a beacon of light in dark times, man, I mean, 131 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: true legend. That dude is someone I mean, I've been 132 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: I've spent my whole life trying to emulate his his 133 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: feet in the striper surf, I mean weird, weird as 134 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: it is, and and having talked to Bob in the past, 135 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: that was weird. It is. It makes a strange kind 136 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: of sense because everything felt so turned upside down for 137 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: so long, and when when the ship flips upside down 138 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: and we go into the twilight zone. You know, the 139 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: garbage man becomes the optimist, I guess, but you do 140 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: have to keep in mind, though, that reports a few 141 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: weeks old, right, So as things are seemingly getting better 142 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: around here, I'm sure Bob's miserable as shit again, which 143 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: which sort of puts the world right, because that's how 144 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: how how we've all always known old Bob about here 145 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: as uh, a miserable dude. And it does feel good 146 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: to have this optimistic vibe in the air among the people, 147 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: if you will. At the same time, man, you read 148 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: the paper and read read the news online, and it's 149 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: hard to know if you should be optimistic. I don't 150 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: really know if we're quite out of the woods yet. Um. 151 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: And thinking along those lines, I think that takes us 152 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: very nicely into the weekly word. Webster's Dictionary defines fish 153 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 1: as well. Bob is warding off the coronavirus by pouring 154 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: gas station coffee on everything he touches. I just don't 155 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 1: think Dr Fouch you would endorse that, as you know, 156 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: like a valid preventative measure. I think we're all just 157 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: gonna have to wait for the vaccine. But what about 158 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: the next major outbreak. Well, here at BENT, we consider 159 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: ourselves public servants. We give you essential information kind of 160 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,439 Speaker 1: like you know, the CDC, only with even less funding. 161 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: And since knowledge is power, or you need to understand 162 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: the word zooosis, zoo knows this is a disease that 163 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: can jump from animals to humans. And you guessed it, 164 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: good old novel Coronavirus is zoonotic. See what I did there, Joe, 165 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: I converted the noun form zoosis into the adjective form zoonotic. 166 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: You're a real smart feller. We English speakers stole this 167 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: term from ancient Greek, in which the prefix zoo means 168 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: animal and the suffix nosos means disease. Since supposedly they 169 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: tell us this is a phishing podcast, supposedly supposedly, the 170 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: obvious question we should answer here is do fish carries 171 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: zoonotic diseases? And the short answer for that is no, 172 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: but but also kind of yes. Hang on, let me 173 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: explain Evolutionarily, we as humans are a long way from fish, 174 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: so the viruses that affect them are they're not likely 175 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: to jump over and make the make the cross into humanity. 176 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: The machinery is just different. The next coronavirus is not 177 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: going to rise out of the local fishing hole, even 178 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 1: some of the nasty backwaters in Jersey where you pull 179 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:13,719 Speaker 1: over and fish show cold blooded. But having said all that, 180 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: fish can carry bacteria, not diseases, but bacteria that will 181 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: jump all over humans, nasty stuff like Streptococcus in a, 182 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: which can be present in both fresh and marine fish 183 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 1: species and cause all kinds of unpleasantness if if it 184 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 1: gets in an open wound. That's where you get all 185 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:37,839 Speaker 1: those stories about fishermen contracting fleshing bacteria from fish or 186 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: hooks or wherever. But really, from what I can tell anyway, 187 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: the instances of that are pretty rare, and they usually 188 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: only seem to happen in Florida, like all the other 189 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 1: crazy stuff. So bottom line, fishing will very likely not 190 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: be the cause of the next global pandemic. And now 191 00:10:55,960 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: you all know what zooses means, so you're welcome. Actually, though, man, 192 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: I have some friends out here on the East Coast 193 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: that have gotten some pretty weird infections and shipped from 194 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: getting poked with fish bines and also from from uh 195 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: injuries suffered from from cuts while clamming clambing injuries clambing 196 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: injuries if you can believe that, that's a real thing, man. 197 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: But if you think about it, Jersey is just basically 198 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 1: Florida with the correct climate to make Christmas Day feel 199 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: festive and accurate. So it makes sense of the same 200 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: weird ship they have we kind of have. And dude, 201 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 1: I've said that to so many Floridians like, oh, man, sucks, 202 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: you don't have Christmas and uh, put my foot right 203 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: in my mouth. So anyway, speaking of putting foots in mouths, 204 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: let's do smooth moves. Why. This is the part of 205 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 1: the show where we call up fishing guides or charter 206 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: boat captains or outfitters, somebody who makes their living taking 207 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: other people fishing, and we asked them to tell us 208 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: about the most obnoxious, annoying, or ridiculous things that they have. Clients, 209 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: do we know that some of you out there fish 210 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: with guides at least from time to time, and if 211 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: you pay attention to our Smooth Moves segment, then you 212 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: will absolutely know the best way to get under every 213 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: guide's skin. Today, we're talking with our good buddy Mike 214 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: Schultz from Michigan, who is a longtime fishing guide extraordinary done, 215 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: all kinds of different species, just about everything you can 216 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: catch in Michigan. He's guided for, including Great Lakes Steelhead. 217 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 1: He's gonna tell us a little bit about that, Mike. 218 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 1: How's it going? But doing great? Brother? Thanks for having me. 219 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: Always a pleasure. So uh so what do you got 220 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: for us today for for the smooth move? Well, you 221 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: know when I was getting steel Head was you know, 222 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: early two thousands through two thousand eight is around there, 223 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: and you know it was like before everyone's rocking sling 224 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: packs and these tight packs and things were well thought out. 225 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 1: So a lot of people, you know, would have those 226 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 1: vests that they bought in the eighties and nineties and 227 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: they just load these things was up. You'd have every 228 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: size shot, every swivel, three way, extras, reels in the back, 229 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: you know, just in singing vest like like you could 230 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: you could just rock them and and lose weight instantly. 231 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,319 Speaker 1: And uh you know, you get these guys and they 232 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: booked their one Steelhead trip with a guy to year 233 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,319 Speaker 1: and they they climb in the boat with all their 234 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 1: gear and they have the vast time with the nippers 235 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: and then not tools and the floating and the scent 236 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: and everything that those guys draw, and then they'd immediately 237 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: take it off and just throw it on the seat, 238 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: on the back of their seat. So then all day 239 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: they're just hanging on it. You know, it's like, dude, 240 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 1: come on, man. So back then when I was working 241 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:42,839 Speaker 1: on the PM, I had, uh, you know, I was 242 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:44,719 Speaker 1: a young bucklo man on the totem Pol. But I 243 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 1: got the little sign made by the local guy that 244 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:52,079 Speaker 1: said no vest, little plastic sign and I'd stick that, 245 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: stuck that on my boat. When they get in the boat, 246 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: they'd see that and you know instantly, what's what's boat. 247 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: It's like, dude, that thing get eggs with you know 248 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: that you bought at the craft store and glued down 249 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 1: to the hoop bro. I love Schultzy man. He's a 250 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: he's the best. And listen, you guys are gonna hear 251 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 1: a lot more from him down the line, because every 252 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: time we talked to Mike, he tells another story after 253 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: the story that we were trying to get and we're like, 254 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: stop telling the story because we have to push records 255 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: so that we can record this story too too. So 256 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: get ready for more Mike. We've compiled a bunch of 257 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: Mike Uh. Anyway, these days, I'll tell you what, man, 258 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: if I'm being completely honest, whenever I fish with a guide, 259 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: my attitude is now like, oh great, I don't I 260 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: don't actually have to bring shit. It's a luxury like this. 261 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: This dude is a guide for a reason. He'll have 262 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: what I need. So while I used to kind of 263 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: be that guy that felt like I had to be 264 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: impressive by bringing my whole garage worth of tackle, now 265 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, terrific guide, don't have to think about tackle. Yeah, 266 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: And if the guy doesn't have all the ship you need, 267 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: that's a shitty guide exactly. And fish with that person again. 268 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: And having been a guide yourself, you must have dealt 269 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: with overpackers, oh yeah, all the time. And you knew 270 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: it was gonna be a bad day when the guys 271 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: showed up and he's got sixteen different dry bags full 272 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: of crap, and he's like fourteen rods, and you know 273 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: you're all you're gonna do is break rods, and they're 274 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: gonna be your rods again, broken, not not his. And 275 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: your boat is gonna be so heavy that you're plowing 276 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: down the river all day and you can never get 277 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: like even or up on step. It's the moral here 278 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: is seriously, don't bring all the stuff if you're going fishing, 279 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: use the guide stuff. Yeah, because people don't realize, especially 280 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: on a drift boat. Right, anything you bring you're not 281 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: gonna use is just ship in the way. All this 282 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: any boat, Yeah, there's not that much room. So it's 283 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: just it's just stuff that is that is in the way. 284 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: So um good good lesson told Cholza style, there as 285 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: only a public service announcement right there. Or if you 286 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: really just want to start off the day by pisting 287 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: off your guide, bring a ton of ship. Yeah, there 288 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: you go, there you go. Anyway, Look, now that we've 289 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: exposed you guys to the to the real truth that 290 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: everyone on the river is in fact making fun of 291 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: your forty pound LLL bean vest pockets, we may as well. 292 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: We may as well just keep right on educating you, 293 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: moving on to fin clips, where we tell you everything 294 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: you never thought you wanted to know about a fish 295 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: that you may or probably may not have heard of. 296 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: This week, we're talking about American shed. Don't confuse American 297 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: shed with all the other shed in this country. We 298 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: got Alabama shead skip jack shed, hickory shed, ale wives, 299 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: blue back herring, and while all those fish share the 300 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: same genus, American shed are actually more closely related to 301 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: species found in Europe than their cousins here in America. 302 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: See American shed are in nadromus, meaning they spend their 303 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: adult lives in the ocean and then return to shwater 304 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: to spawn. Like salmon, they're also native all the way 305 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: up and down the Atlantic Coast. So, like our beloved Pilgrims, 306 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 1: some shad ancestors bailed out of Europe a very very 307 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 1: long time ago across the Atlantic Ocean and started annual 308 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: spring parties in the rivers of the New World. Shad 309 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 1: have been called the fish that fed the nation's founders 310 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 1: because many of those aforementioned Pilgrims and the colonies that 311 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: followed them all survived on shad. Of course, the native 312 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 1: tribes who lived along the Atlantic coast were all over 313 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: the shad game long before the Europeans got here. Evidence 314 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: of ancient fish traps has been found from Newfoundland all 315 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: the way down to Florida. Historical records also indicate that 316 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: some tribes went to war over the best shad grounds. 317 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: Adults had generally go three to eight pounds, and while 318 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 1: I've never tried one myself, I hear they're good eating. 319 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 1: They can be boiled, broiled, fried, grilled, smoked, or pickled. 320 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: I've also heard they've fallen out of favor in the 321 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 1: modern diet because they're bony, and we've all turned into 322 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: massive sissies when it comes eating around fishbones. The other 323 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 1: thing I heard is that shad row is a delicacy 324 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: for those who know what's up. Well, you don't know 325 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: what's up, and I'm offended. You're you're You're offended. I'm 326 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: offended because you how do you take the lead on 327 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: American shad man. That's first of all, I know your 328 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 1: ass has never caught one. And second, the greatest goddamn 329 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: American shad river in the country is my home water 330 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: right up the street. I live for shad and I 331 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: miss it talking. You're talking to Delaware right now. Yep, yep, yep. 332 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: It's the last major undamned river on the East coast, 333 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: giving what many here called Jersey tarpin. You didn't know 334 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: they were called Jersey tarpin. That that that didn't make 335 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: your little segment, that it gives them unobstructed access to 336 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: spawn man and I look, they are people who get 337 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,959 Speaker 1: all like my river. Yeah, there's other good shad rivers too, 338 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: no doubt. But usually you only tie in real strong 339 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 1: like up to that first damn. That's usually how it goes. 340 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: No man, I I have heard from you, but also 341 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: from lots of other people. I've heard they're they're a 342 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 1: lot of fun. Yeah, it's it's a it's a light 343 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: tackle game. It's a killer light tackle game, six pound tests, 344 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: light rod. You know, you need the right tackle to 345 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: let them do their thing. But it's tons of fun. Um. 346 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: And you've also missed the part about how without American chat, 347 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: everyone listening to this might not be American. How's that 348 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: because because in the winter seventeen seventy eight, Washington's army 349 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: was starving to death at Camp and Valley Forge, which 350 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 1: is not far from where I am right now, And 351 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: there was a false spring that February, one of those 352 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 1: weird deals where it got too warm too soon, and 353 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: as I've read it, it tricked the fish into running 354 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 1: early that year. And um, they came right up to 355 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: Delaware and then hooked a hard left in the Scuoko 356 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 1: River at Philly and that took them right to Old 357 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 1: George's feet in camp, and that saved the army and 358 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: provided an enough salted fish to eat later. Um. And 359 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: without that, it's very possible the Revolutionary War could not 360 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: have continued on. So what I'm saying is, next time 361 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: you're getting a bucket of KFC, thank you, Shad, because 362 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: you could be eating tea and crumpets or bangers and 363 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 1: mash or some other British shit. Oh British cuisine. Don't 364 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: forget the spotted dick. Alicious, so delicious. All right, all right, 365 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: I'm I'm sufficiently shamed. You've shamed me, and uh, I know, man, 366 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 1: I need to get over there and and actually catch 367 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: a shed talk about As with all things COVID, we'll 368 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: just push it off to spring. It's gonna be great 369 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: by then. Man. You know, come on out, you can 370 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: eat all the world, Shad, you want, all the road 371 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: you want to because that that part of your spirit 372 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 1: was bullshit too. By the way, nobody here in shad 373 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: Land covets the row except for five culinary weirdo food bloggers. 374 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 1: It's not it's not the bones, it's the fact that 375 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: they taste like you're chugging a mug a bunk of oil. 376 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: As Bob the garbage Man would say, I have tried it. 377 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: To be fair, I've tried it, and yes, once was enough. 378 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 1: It's just man, it's greasy. It's greasy anyway. Anyway, I 379 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 1: do believe it's time for fish news. That escalated quickly. 380 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: All right, this is fish news, where we uh well 381 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,360 Speaker 1: give you fishy news about fishy things. The fun of it, however, 382 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 1: is that Miles and I don't know what the other 383 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: one is bringing to the table. Okay, like we have 384 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: no we have no preconceived idea of what his news 385 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 1: stories will be and mine will be. Um. So there's 386 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: like some competition in our news segment here because you know, Dan, well, 387 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 1: at some point we're gonna find the same stuff. So 388 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: we're trying to It's it's a game. It's a game, 389 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 1: is what it is. It's a game. And I brought 390 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: backups just in case you scoop me on one of 391 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: the stories I wanted to I wanted to have. I have. 392 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 1: I have a backup, but I will be pissed if 393 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 1: you if you jump all over all my good wife, 394 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: I only brought too so this might be uh. The 395 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:05,360 Speaker 1: news segment according to Miles, who knows I'm lazier than 396 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: you are anyway, Uh, this first one here you have kids. 397 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: This might be the greatest news story I've heard in 398 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: a very long time. It's it's just like, oh, it's 399 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: it's so me. And this is coming from Forbes Okay. 400 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 1: An offshore sports book has decided to post odds on 401 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 1: the migratory patterns of nine GEO tag great White sharks, 402 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 1: providing a summer diversion for sports fan and wagering aficionados 403 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 1: who may or may not have an affinity for sustainable fishing. 404 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,640 Speaker 1: My bookie dot com is offering a variety of odds. 405 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: The sports book will utilize the tracking technology used by 406 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: a Search, a nonprofit organization that has the most well 407 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: known and widely used tracking tool available. It provides a 408 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: detailed tracking history of individual sharks travel patterns that people 409 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 1: can monitor in real time for free via an online app. 410 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: Gamblers will be able to wage your on ament of 411 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: odds and props pertaining to the specific migration patterns of 412 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,199 Speaker 1: individual Great white sharks. Is a great quote. Ready, I 413 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 1: have no illusions of grandeur that we are going to 414 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 1: make millions of dollars off of this. It's a fun 415 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: thing and hopefully it catches on, said David Strauss of 416 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: my Bookie, after being tagged with the trackers sharks ping 417 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 1: on O Search when they come to the surface. Based 418 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: on these pings, my bookie will offer gamblers a variety 419 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: of ways to place bets, such as how far a 420 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: shark will travel between pings, whether a shark will enter 421 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 1: a certain body of water, and what date a shark 422 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: will ping next. Now, for great whites that ping less frequently, 423 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 1: wagers will be able to be placed on if it 424 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 1: will resurface by a certain date, and what countries waters 425 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: the shark will be in when it resurfaces. Statistics will 426 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 1: be updated in real time, allowing users to closely monitor 427 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: their bets. Oh my god, I thought NASCAR was boring. 428 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 1: Here's the thing, though, right dude. I read this and 429 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: I was like, holy shit, this is my calling. I 430 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 1: was I was born for this, because there's no way 431 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: that my bookie realizes how easily this can be rigged. 432 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: So I'm shouting out now to any of you tony 433 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 1: soprano types out there. I got this. I've got this alright. 434 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 1: I already ran the numbers on O Search Okay, you 435 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: just look at Cabin nine three pound mails looking good 436 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,919 Speaker 1: this year. Payed off Long Island June fourth place your 437 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: bets July thirteenth, quarter mile south of Block Island. Jimmy 438 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 1: and the boys be out there on the stucts with 439 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: a couple of sides of beef, about four hundred buckets 440 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 1: of golds blood cement mixed of worth the bunkle oil, 441 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: and a couple of people we need to get rid 442 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: of anyway, Cab, it's gonna surface right there, easy money. 443 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 1: Oh my god. You know, they just legalized sports betting 444 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: in Montana, like it literally right before COVID hit they 445 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 1: passed that bill and all the bookies where everybody was 446 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: so excited, and then the first season of legal betting 447 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: in Montana just as soon as it started, it was over. 448 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,919 Speaker 1: And I wonder if I could get this going. He might. 449 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: We might actually have to cut this out of the podcast. 450 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 1: You may not actually hear this, because I think we 451 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 1: need to talk on the side on the arm. We'll, we'll, 452 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: we'll have a side conversation on this one. Oh dude, 453 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,679 Speaker 1: that was good. That was good. I don't know if 454 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: it's better than he did not scoot me, did not 455 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:34,120 Speaker 1: scoot me. I thought you were going to Lucky bastard 456 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: is going to get the chance to fulfill what I'm 457 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 1: calling a childhood fantasy, oh boy, and go fishing with 458 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 1: Bill Dance. The Tennessee Wildlife Resources Agency is holding a 459 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 1: raffle right now, and one of the grand prizes that 460 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: they got is a day on the water with the 461 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 1: man himself rocking the blue blockers. The Orange Bill volunteers 462 00:25:56,280 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: cap the whole deal. So from from now until August six, 463 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: Raffle tickets are on sale at the t w r 464 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,200 Speaker 1: A website. You can purchase as many as you want. 465 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: You do not need to be a Tennessee resident to win, 466 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 1: and all the money that they raise is gonna fund 467 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 1: habitat restoration, so that that's good. But even better, the 468 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 1: winner gets six hours on the water with Bill, either 469 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: fisher fishing for croppy or catfish on the Mississippi River 470 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 1: or at what they're calling an undisclosed Tennessee lake for 471 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: large mouth, which I can only hope is the same 472 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: lake we've all seen him fall into countless times over 473 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 1: the years. I was gonna say, otherwise known as the 474 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: lake where he films all of his shows exactly. I 475 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: saw this not to cut in, but you left out 476 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: the part where they were like based on Bill's schedule, 477 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 1: so like whenever he can fit you in whatever is 478 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: happening around then is when you get to go. But 479 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: you get to go, it doesn't better. I would, I 480 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: would open up my calendar for a day with Bill Dance. Well, 481 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: I would do that. Listen, I I've I've interviewed all 482 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 1: these guys at some point in my career. Hank Hank 483 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 1: Parker flip palette. You know Bill Dance, and he is 484 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 1: the sweetest, kindest, most gracious man in the entire world. 485 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: That it's it's it almost like hurts my heart to 486 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: take like a little shot at Bill. But I'm but 487 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about that right. As sweet as he is, 488 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: you get six hours on the water with Bill Dance, 489 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 1: which is gonna be six hours of him not being 490 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: able to hear you, and every time you say something, 491 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:31,400 Speaker 1: I'm just going, huh, huh, huh, what's that. I met 492 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: met Bill once and he was he was very very 493 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: very very very nice, way nicer than most people who 494 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: are famous in the fishing industry. I would, I would 495 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 1: totally even even as like someone who works in the industry, 496 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: I would still totally do this. I'm I'm not gonna lie. 497 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 1: I'm definitely gonna be in this raffle. It's the last 498 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: time I spoke with him, and he doesn't know me 499 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,919 Speaker 1: from Adam, right, he you know. But he ended the 500 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 1: call with like, hey, buddy, you know, next time you 501 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 1: come down here, let us know, we'll go have a 502 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 1: steak and now go out fishing. And I was recording 503 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 1: the call for a piece, so I took just that 504 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: chunk out and ran it on social media. It was 505 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: titled like Bill Dance invites me fishing, And the first 506 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: comment from another fishing industry person was, like, dude, he 507 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: says that to everybody he hangs up with, dumbass, Like 508 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: he doesn't want to go fishing with you, fish with you? 509 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 1: You want to fish with him? Win the raffle. Oh 510 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 1: my god, that's funny. I'm glad. I'm glad that one 511 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 1: made the fold. I'm glad you got that because I 512 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: eyeballed it for a hot second. Um, you know. And 513 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: Bill Dances certainly old school, one of the oldest school 514 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: sort of fishing uh icons around and and my next 515 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: piece here ties into that although we've been laughing a lot, 516 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: and this one, you know, it's a it's a little 517 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: bit more bummery, but important nonetheless. So at this point, 518 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: it's no secret that the COVID pandemic has taken its 519 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: toll on the outdoor industry. And while guides and captains 520 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: and tackle shops in much of the tree are at 521 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 1: this point operational and trying to get back on their feet, 522 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: unfortunately too many businesses just weren't able to recover, and 523 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: mom and pop tackle shops were hit particularly hard. Now 524 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: we all know that those old school shops that had 525 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: everything you needed to fish local and nothing you didn't, 526 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: we're kind of already on their way out prior to 527 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 1: COVID anyway, but the closing of Ranky Brothers Tackle in 528 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: Milwaukee due to the pandemic takes more than just another 529 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 1: mom and pop operation out of the game. Ranky Brothers 530 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: wasn't a traditional tackle shop. They actually specialized in lore 531 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: and fly components for all the garage tinkerers that wanted 532 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: to make everything from musky bucktails to walleye rigs to 533 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: custom jakeheads and pipe flies to their exact specifications, and 534 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 1: behind the counter were dozens of trees chocked full of minutia, 535 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: you know, like for the guy who just wanted two 536 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: specific treble hooks or just a few loose inline spinner 537 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: post and Ranky Brothers was a staple in South Milwaukee 538 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: for seventy years, and while owner Bob he tried online 539 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: sales awhile back it was just too hard to compete 540 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: with the major online component and material websites. And of course, 541 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: now with foot traffic down and hours cut back due 542 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 1: to COVID, this neighborhood's shop simply can't operate profitably, forcing 543 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: Bob to retire early this fall. Now this saddens me 544 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 1: personally because while it will be hard enough for our 545 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 1: kids to experience a true old timeing mom and pop 546 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: tackle shop, stories like Ranky Brothers that existed solely for 547 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 1: the angler that gets more satisfaction out of catching a 548 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 1: fish on something he made with his own two hands, 549 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: may flat out no longer exist. Have you ever been 550 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: in a shop like that? Man? Oh, yes I have, 551 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 1: and and I'll say right now that long before I 552 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: ever got into the fly fishing thing and building my 553 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 1: own flies, as I was totally the kid who was 554 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: building my own inline spinners and spinner bad, some weird 555 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: posts and and and my dad was even way more 556 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: into it than me. His whole goal was to make 557 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: the strangest lure that he could possibly a man and 558 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: see if something would bite it. It It was. It was 559 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: really one of his favorite things to do in the world. Um, 560 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: so yeah, we hung out in those shops all the time. 561 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: I was like one of our things that we did together. 562 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: The closest that I had here was Brielle Baiton Tackle 563 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: at the Jersey Shore, which does still exist. And while 564 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: they didn't have a lot of lower making stuff, they 565 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: had this huge rod building section. And I mean, I've 566 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 1: made a few rods. They were all terrible, But every 567 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: time I was in there, it was just so inspiring. 568 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: You know, like you're not really thinking about building a rod, 569 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: you don't need one, and then you just happened to 570 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: be in there for something else and you start walking 571 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: around looking at all the decals and threads and blanks, 572 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: and it just like gets this creativity welled up in you. 573 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: And I remember when the first Cabela's ever opened out here, 574 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: and I went out there. Of course, like the first 575 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: time you walk into a Cabela's it's like, holy sh it, 576 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 1: this is great. So I wanted to buy like fifty 577 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: panther Martin's and I had them in my cart, and 578 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: then I ended up in the lower component s aisle 579 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 1: and saw the bag of blades and the bag of posts, 580 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: and instantly it was like, I'm not buying any of 581 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: the Now. I make my own inline spinners, and I 582 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: still have some of those spinners here today. But that 583 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 1: I've never had a store like that that just basically 584 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: sold the pieces. And I found that really sad. I 585 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: never we never had one that just did that. It was, 586 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: but we had one that had a really good section that. 587 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: It was Grizzly Bills Bait and Tackle that later became 588 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: Grizzly Bob's Bait and Tackle UH in the middle of 589 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: nowhere in northern Wisconsin, and and they had everything from 590 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 1: Camos suspenders to lure building bits and pieces to UH 591 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 1: to anything else in between. I mean, it was. It 592 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 1: was a fantastic shop. It probably closed down, yeah, twenty 593 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 1: five years ago, but I loved that place well. To me, 594 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: it's it's similar to like hardware stories. I still have 595 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: a few around here where you can walk in and 596 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: talk to old gusts and he'll get two screws out 597 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: of the plastic tray for you. You know, but they're 598 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: getting harder to find. You know. You get a home 599 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 1: and quota, but you have to buy a dozen, and 600 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 1: you have to involve walkie talkies and five people before 601 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 1: someone can even tell you which I all the screws 602 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: are in. You know what, And what's terrible about this 603 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: story that you just told me is that, from what 604 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: I'm about to report on, if if they could have 605 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: held on for just a couple of months longer, they 606 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: might have been all right. Because nationwide, tackle shops are 607 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: reporting a fishing gear shortage. Really, tackle shops all over 608 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: the country right now are barren of fishing gear, completely 609 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 1: sold out. And most of these are are the big 610 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: box stores, the ones that are still holding on and popular. 611 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: But the same things happen in some of the smaller stores. Uh. 612 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: In fact, just yesterday, Sam Longer and the fishing editor 613 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: that we work with, texted me a photo from Sportsman's 614 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 1: Warehouse and it was like eerily similar to looking at 615 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: grocery store shelves a couple of months ago, bearing picked clean. 616 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: I'm talking not a single rattle trap or vibrats anywhere 617 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: to be seen. I don't think it's weird, man Like. 618 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: I've known that this has been happening throughout the country 619 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 1: from talking to people, but I only stepped into a 620 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 1: big box tackle shop for the first time since before 621 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 1: the pandemic, like a week ago, and lures plenty of them, 622 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:22,280 Speaker 1: I mean totally stocked on lures out here, softbait's, hard baits, 623 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 1: whatever you needed. Hooks were hit fairly hard, but the 624 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 1: noticeable one was line. I mean they were They were 625 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 1: literally three spools of line in the entire aisle and 626 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 1: all that was left. The only options I had were 627 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 1: sixty five pound braid high Viz Orange, fifty pound braid 628 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 1: high his Yellow, or thirty pound lead core trolling line, 629 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 1: and I was like, none of these will suit my 630 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: small mouth needs. You know, I have heard from a 631 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,399 Speaker 1: lot of people that smaller mom and pop shops are 632 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 1: faring much much better through this, and I think that's 633 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 1: probably because they order smaller quantities. You know, they need 634 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:03,840 Speaker 1: twenty rattle traps, not two, um. But unfortunately, I just 635 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,319 Speaker 1: don't have any good mom and pops left around here 636 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 1: to go to, or that's what I would do, So 637 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 1: and and out here. The only mom and pops we 638 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 1: have are like purely fly shops. If you want to 639 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 1: get me conventional tackle, you have to go to the 640 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 1: big box stores, and they are it's the opposite. They're 641 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: they're out of fishing gear here. The lures are gone, 642 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 1: the hooks are gone, but they still have line. So 643 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on. Like I've heard it's 644 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 1: a supply chain issue, but apparently that doesn't make any sense. 645 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 1: But I'm sort of torn on this, Like I'm of 646 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 1: two minds because if there's one minor bright spot that 647 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 1: I can point to in in this whole pandemic fiasco, 648 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:41,879 Speaker 1: everybody's out of work and they don't know what they're 649 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 1: gonna do with their time. Thing, it seems like a 650 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:47,280 Speaker 1: lot more people are fishing, and I mean across the country. 651 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 1: It seems like the numbers of fishing fishing participation are up. 652 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,280 Speaker 1: And I know, I know our rivers, like my local 653 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:57,840 Speaker 1: rivers are so packed with people right now, like doesn't 654 00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:59,439 Speaker 1: matter the day of the week, doesn't matter the time. 655 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 1: They are slammed with people way more than I've ever 656 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 1: seen before. You know, it's mellowed out for me here, Uh, 657 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,840 Speaker 1: it's it's normal summer summer crowds on the local rivers 658 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 1: right here now. But during the height of all this 659 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 1: in in April and early May, when people were even 660 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 1: more out of work and more locked down, oh my god, 661 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 1: it was a zoo. It was an absolute zoo. Yeah. 662 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 1: And and again this just speaks the different types of 663 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 1: places we live, because you know, everybody by you who 664 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 1: was fishing there in the spring lived there and wasn't working. 665 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 1: And now we are just inundated with tourists who are 666 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 1: trying to get away from their their own private COVID hells, 667 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,760 Speaker 1: and they're coming here and and and they're all fishing, 668 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 1: which is again I'm torn because I really don't like 669 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 1: seeing my local spots that crowded and getting hit that hard. 670 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 1: It bums me out a little bit, But I am 671 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 1: really happy to see more people fishing, like that's one 672 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,840 Speaker 1: of the things that we we really pride ourselves on 673 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 1: and what we do. We try and get more and 674 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 1: more people to get outside, go fishing, go hun and 675 00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 1: get out in the woods. So I'm you know, on 676 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 1: a selfish level, it annoys me, but on a broader level, 677 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 1: like if I can get out of my not in 678 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 1: my backyard protectionist mentality. I'm happy about it. Um. And 679 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 1: you know what, since we're we're kind of on the 680 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:16,759 Speaker 1: subject of more people fishing in my home state, there's 681 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 1: this guy who just recently moved out here to Montana, 682 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 1: like a year ago. Uh, some of you guys may 683 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 1: have heard of him. His name is like a Janus 684 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:30,799 Speaker 1: or Janice Janice Poodles. I don't know, it's some weird 685 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 1: Latvian thing. I don't know. He's gonna tell us about 686 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 1: a certain living fossil or I guess, in this case, 687 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:42,360 Speaker 1: swimming fossil and his first time going fishing or technically 688 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 1: snagging for paddlefish. In this week's Yanni's Desk, Hey folks, 689 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:56,000 Speaker 1: welcome to Yanni's Desk. Today the sheriff you about how 690 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 1: the new world record spoon bill was snagged down in 691 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 1: Oklahoma at a Keystone Lake. This fish is snagged by 692 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 1: a fello by the name of James Lukarton. It is massive. 693 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 1: To see pictures of it, go to the meat eater 694 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 1: dot com read Spencer new Harst article about it. You 695 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 1: gotta know a little bit about spoon bill to appreciate this. 696 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 1: It's a prehistoric fish. It's been on the planet in 697 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:23,440 Speaker 1: its same form for roughly twenty million years, so they 698 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 1: know what they're doing. They know how to survive. It's 699 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,360 Speaker 1: a filter feeder, so this fish doesn't chase other fish 700 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 1: down and eat them. They don't eat nightcrawlers. They eat 701 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 1: zo plankton microscopic beings. To find these suckers, they use 702 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 1: that paddle that's coming off top of their head and 703 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 1: kind of almost looks like a swordfish. Earlier, they thought 704 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 1: that they would dig around in the muck with that thing, 705 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,760 Speaker 1: kind of like a storefish does, and then eat whatever 706 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,320 Speaker 1: came out of there. But actually it's got electoral receptors 707 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 1: all over it. There are so fine tuned they can 708 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 1: not only detect the zoo plankton, but they can detect 709 00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,840 Speaker 1: the movement of a zoo plankton's appendages. So not just 710 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 1: as zoe plank and swimming around, but it's little legs 711 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 1: and arms kicking around or whatever they call him on 712 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,800 Speaker 1: his zoa plankton, and that's how it finds its food. 713 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 1: And he comes up in the water calm, and just 714 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,719 Speaker 1: like a whale, he opens his mouth or she does. 715 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,760 Speaker 1: The water goes through there. They filters the zoa plankton 716 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 1: out and the water goes out of the gills. Really 717 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 1: cool fish. I recently got to do some spoon bill snagging, 718 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 1: or be a part of it. My brother in law 719 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,359 Speaker 1: drew a harvest tag on the Upper Missouri River here 720 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 1: in Montana. So we went up there right at the 721 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 1: end of the season around mid June. Gave it our 722 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 1: best shot. Didn't really know what we were doing, but 723 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 1: between talking to some folks we got it done. He 724 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:43,040 Speaker 1: ended up catching right around a twenty pounder. Now, since 725 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,320 Speaker 1: they're not eating bait, you can't catch him like you 726 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 1: normally would. Can't throw a woolly bugger adham. He doesn't 727 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,359 Speaker 1: care about a leach. You can't throw a rappele at him. 728 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,800 Speaker 1: He doesn't care about a little baby perch. So you 729 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 1: gotta snag him. And how you do that is he 730 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 1: used a pretty uh stout rod um that can cast 731 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 1: far and that has a lot of backbones. If you 732 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 1: do hook into these fish, which you know, going from 733 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,280 Speaker 1: to as you'll see later, almost a hundred and fifty pounds, 734 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 1: you gotta use heavy line. I think we were using 735 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 1: eighty pound braid. We were using bait cast again, I 736 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 1: say we my brother in law was I didn't have 737 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 1: the tag. But you have a weight actually at the 738 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 1: bottom of your line, and then you have a size 739 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 1: seven or eight odd treble hook anywhere from eight inches 740 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,800 Speaker 1: to three ft above that weight, and again there's no 741 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 1: bait on it. You cast it out there. The weight 742 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 1: brings you down to the bottom and you yank, pull 743 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:39,240 Speaker 1: up your slack and yank, and basically as you're pulling 744 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,799 Speaker 1: the hook through the water column, eventually your line will 745 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,440 Speaker 1: come across the back of a spoon bill and uh, 746 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:50,880 Speaker 1: when you yank, you'll pull that trouble hook into the fish. 747 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,320 Speaker 1: You know, it sounds a little barbaric, but that's the 748 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,920 Speaker 1: only way you're gonna catch them. Research shows that snagging 749 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,759 Speaker 1: them and releasing them doesn't hurt them. You know, they 750 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 1: have little flesh wound as we'd like to say, and uh, 751 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,160 Speaker 1: they go about their business. That's how you catch them. 752 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,320 Speaker 1: So back to Oklahoma, this guy, James and his wife 753 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 1: were out on their first day ever spoon bill fish 754 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 1: and they took a guided trip. They just wanted to 755 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 1: go snag a couple sub fifty pounders for eating. That's 756 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,319 Speaker 1: what they were looking for. They got a lot more 757 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,399 Speaker 1: than they were looking for. His wife starts off with 758 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,719 Speaker 1: an eighty eight pounder, which is also a giant spoonbill, 759 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:30,400 Speaker 1: and releases it, and then James is up. He snags 760 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,239 Speaker 1: into one. He's reeling it in. They see how long 761 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 1: it is. They think it's about the same length as 762 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,759 Speaker 1: a wife's it is, and then when it gets close 763 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 1: to the boat, it rolls sideways and they see the 764 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 1: girth on it. This is my favorite part in the 765 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,359 Speaker 1: little video that his wife was taken. When that fish 766 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 1: roll sideways, he says, God damn, and she says, what's 767 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,000 Speaker 1: your language? I thought that was great in the heat 768 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 1: of the moment, she's she's keeping him proper. Takes him 769 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,919 Speaker 1: another minute or so to get that thing and get 770 00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 1: a loop of rope around the fishes tail, and they 771 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 1: land it. They take some quick measurement and they think 772 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:08,000 Speaker 1: it's gonna be near the world record, and so they 773 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 1: take it back in to meet a Oklahoma Fisheries official 774 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,839 Speaker 1: and uh. The guy weighs it and it turns out 775 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:18,399 Speaker 1: to be a hundred and forty six pounds eleven ounces. 776 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,960 Speaker 1: It is a giant fish. It is almost as wide 777 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 1: as it is long. It was just a little bit wider. 778 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 1: It would be a circle of a fish. Incredible. It's 779 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,719 Speaker 1: a good job, James. I recommend you hang up your 780 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 1: spoonbill snagging hat, move on to something else, go break 781 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 1: another record. I think you're done here. Good work. Thank you, 782 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,399 Speaker 1: Janice for the extreme paddling. But hey, moving from one 783 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,600 Speaker 1: flyover state to another, let's take a trip to Iowa, 784 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,560 Speaker 1: and not for the fishing this time, but for the drinking. 785 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,319 Speaker 1: We're tapping the keg for the first ever installment of 786 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 1: what might be our favorite segment and hopefully yours. This 787 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 1: is that's my bar, best god damn bartender from tim 788 00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:08,959 Speaker 1: buck to to Portland, Maine, the Portland argument, for that matter. 789 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:14,240 Speaker 1: So what's the goal of that's my bar? Easy? Slowly 790 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,720 Speaker 1: but surely compile a list of the best damn watering 791 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:21,160 Speaker 1: holes for fishermen, not just in this country, okay, but 792 00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:25,279 Speaker 1: across the entire globe. That's that's the end goal. Okay. 793 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 1: And uh, Miles and I certainly have our favorites. What's 794 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,919 Speaker 1: your what's your favorite? Man? That's like, that's a really 795 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:35,719 Speaker 1: hard question. It's like asking me to pick a favorite child. Well, 796 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:40,920 Speaker 1: favorite child's easy. Uh, favorite species might as well as 797 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,400 Speaker 1: me to pick a favorite fish species. But uh, you know, 798 00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 1: for me, the one I'm gonna call out is the 799 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:51,239 Speaker 1: Sip and Dip in Great Falls, Montana. That is Montana's 800 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 1: absolute best tiki bar. It's got to be the only 801 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,840 Speaker 1: tiki but that's definitely the only bar. But it's actually 802 00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 1: it's it's such a fantastic bar, man, you gotta go there. Uh. 803 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:04,120 Speaker 1: It's above this old hotel. It's really grimy. It's got 804 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:08,000 Speaker 1: like the the coconut weave mats on the wall, and 805 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:12,600 Speaker 1: that is where the famous piano Pat has been belting 806 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 1: out her beautiful raspy tunes under her hair helmet for 807 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 1: literally fifty six years. She's been there forever. She's amazing. 808 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 1: Anybody who like seriously she you can look her up online. 809 00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,360 Speaker 1: Piano Pat, Sipp and Dip, Gray Falls. You won't be sorry. 810 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,719 Speaker 1: And then behind Piano Pat, behind the bar, there these 811 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:36,360 Speaker 1: windows into the pool and they hire men and women 812 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,760 Speaker 1: to put on merman and mermaid costumes and swim around 813 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,799 Speaker 1: behind the bar. It's I don't know if i'd call 814 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:44,959 Speaker 1: it actually a fishing bar, but it is pretty close 815 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,520 Speaker 1: to the Missouri River and I have been there after fishing. 816 00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 1: So I'm calling out the Sip and dip. Well, shit, 817 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,080 Speaker 1: I can't top that, but I know my new life goal. 818 00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,359 Speaker 1: We have to record from there at some point and 819 00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,880 Speaker 1: have piano pat on. But I bet she do it. 820 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,400 Speaker 1: You just like you stole my thunder Mind's Lame mcbree's 821 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:07,000 Speaker 1: Crosstown Tavern and Starlight p A like Big, I can 822 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,520 Speaker 1: walk in there with my waiters on Big. You just 823 00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:14,000 Speaker 1: crushed me. They got good fried mushrooms though. Anyway, Look, 824 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,680 Speaker 1: here's the thing, right, we need you guys to step 825 00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:21,239 Speaker 1: up clearly based on just our two examples. We need 826 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,240 Speaker 1: your help because Miles and I don't know all these bars. 827 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,920 Speaker 1: So this is your chance to wrap your local dive 828 00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:30,239 Speaker 1: or your favorite cantina when you travel, or maybe just 829 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,880 Speaker 1: the most memorable fishing bar that you've ever been to. 830 00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,000 Speaker 1: These are the places where it's okay to walk in 831 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,160 Speaker 1: in a T shirt covered in tune of blood. White 832 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,920 Speaker 1: deck boots are welcome. You will still get served the 833 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:46,640 Speaker 1: cheese cards when you walk in sweating and leaking, snot 834 00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:50,200 Speaker 1: after a day on the ice. So for our first installment, 835 00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,320 Speaker 1: we're taking a jaunt to the Midwest today to the 836 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,799 Speaker 1: Driftless region of Iowa, which is an awesome place to fish, 837 00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:58,680 Speaker 1: and it's very it's very near and dear to my 838 00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:03,000 Speaker 1: heart in fact, and today is nomination comes from j Aldrich, 839 00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:07,719 Speaker 1: who writes The Naughty Pine Tavern in Dorchester, Iowa, is 840 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,799 Speaker 1: only fifty yards or so from Waterloo Creek in the 841 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:14,319 Speaker 1: beautiful driftless area. It's a small bar with tons of 842 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,080 Speaker 1: old pin ups and you will often find the regular 843 00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:20,160 Speaker 1: old timers having a few beers and telling stories from 844 00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,920 Speaker 1: their glory days. We always try to stop there for 845 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,640 Speaker 1: a beer whenever we're in town. When I was younger, 846 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,239 Speaker 1: my old man was waiting there for my buddy and 847 00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,279 Speaker 1: I to get done fishing. He was only there for 848 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,719 Speaker 1: about an hour or so, and the locals showed him 849 00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:35,480 Speaker 1: such a good time that my buddy and I had 850 00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,160 Speaker 1: to guide my dad back to the car so he 851 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:46,080 Speaker 1: didn't fall in parentheses again. And then and then we 852 00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:49,000 Speaker 1: had to drive him back to the hotel. I have 853 00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:52,600 Speaker 1: actually fished Waterloo Creek, and I am I am just 854 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,520 Speaker 1: very disappointed that my my people's out there did not 855 00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,680 Speaker 1: take me here, because I already know I would love 856 00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:02,320 Speaker 1: the Naughty Pine Tavern. You know why, because I looked 857 00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,920 Speaker 1: it up. I was trying to do a little research Um, 858 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:08,600 Speaker 1: there's no social media page for the Naughty Pine, there 859 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:14,239 Speaker 1: are no year reviews, there's no menu online. Okay. All 860 00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:18,879 Speaker 1: I could find was a phone number which tells me 861 00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,520 Speaker 1: this is exactly this is the joint you go to 862 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,680 Speaker 1: when you're asked. Doesn't want to be found for a 863 00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,640 Speaker 1: little while, you know what I mean? Just picturing like 864 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:32,840 Speaker 1: a beige rotary phone mounted on the wall next to 865 00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:36,160 Speaker 1: the bar that never rings. It's dusty, you can, I 866 00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:39,960 Speaker 1: can just it's caked in dust. But yeah, like that's 867 00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,800 Speaker 1: I'm going there. I'm and I'll bet you the food 868 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,040 Speaker 1: is delicious. Just I just have a hunch, you know, 869 00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:48,200 Speaker 1: Yell previews aside, I do wish there was one Yell 870 00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,040 Speaker 1: preview though. I wish there was just like one Yell 871 00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:53,160 Speaker 1: preview that just said four stars had to be carried 872 00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:57,160 Speaker 1: out like that. That's a bar I would definitely frequent 873 00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,000 Speaker 1: if I were in Iowa. So help us out. Keep 874 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,560 Speaker 1: sending these to us. We need more of these. The 875 00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:04,920 Speaker 1: next time I am any place, I hope to have 876 00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,920 Speaker 1: a whole list of great bars that I might be 877 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:11,319 Speaker 1: able to go to. Yeah, Killer Killer, first nomination from 878 00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,959 Speaker 1: j These low key joints are exactly what we want, 879 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:18,120 Speaker 1: and you can email your nominations to us at bent 880 00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:22,000 Speaker 1: at the meat eater dot com to nominate your favorite 881 00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:25,840 Speaker 1: corner dive bar full of dusty skin mounts and perhaps 882 00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,799 Speaker 1: featuring an old bathtub like trough in the men's room 883 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,279 Speaker 1: instead of urinals, which and that is a that is 884 00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,839 Speaker 1: a mark of a truly great fishing bar. Oh Man, 885 00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,160 Speaker 1: I have a new life, gold Joe. I hope to 886 00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,240 Speaker 1: one day be in a band called Dusty skin Mounts. 887 00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:46,040 Speaker 1: We are just about out of time this week, which 888 00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:49,520 Speaker 1: brings us to the end of the line are aptly 889 00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:53,160 Speaker 1: name closing segment about what bates lords or flies you 890 00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:57,200 Speaker 1: need to be throwing basically on any criteria that we want. 891 00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,799 Speaker 1: Could be something me and Miles have been slaying on 892 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,239 Speaker 1: eate lea. Could be a hot new lore that intrigues us. 893 00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:04,960 Speaker 1: Might be some ancient ship we found in the garage 894 00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:08,680 Speaker 1: and totally forgot about. So while Miles is out hunting 895 00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:12,399 Speaker 1: down band members for his new gig and Dusty skin 896 00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,960 Speaker 1: Mounts strong chance many of those Dusty skin mounts you 897 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:19,040 Speaker 1: see in bars, lodges, and fish camps were caught on 898 00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:28,080 Speaker 1: one of his favorite vintage retrobates, the bass arena. Well, 899 00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:32,560 Speaker 1: that's not loud enough. Bur Is it a crank bait, 900 00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,680 Speaker 1: a service plug, a jerk bait, a glide bait. I 901 00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,000 Speaker 1: don't know, and I don't really care, because as far 902 00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:41,120 Speaker 1: as I'm concerned, the bass arena occupies a category all 903 00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:44,720 Speaker 1: by itself. The original bass arena was patented in nineteen 904 00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:48,640 Speaker 1: fifteen by James Olds. Olds immediately sold that patent to 905 00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:50,759 Speaker 1: the South Bend Debate and Tackle Company, who went on 906 00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:53,759 Speaker 1: to manufacture bass arenas for almost seventy years. The bait 907 00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,839 Speaker 1: was so popular and so effective it spawned a whole 908 00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,880 Speaker 1: genre of plugs, from tiny little trout ay nos the 909 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,720 Speaker 1: signed to be cast with fly rods, to midsize surfery 910 00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:06,279 Speaker 1: nos for inshore fishing, to stout muskerinos for muskie and 911 00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,600 Speaker 1: big pipe. None of these offshoots have ever really caught on, 912 00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:11,480 Speaker 1: and you know what, they didn't really have to the 913 00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,080 Speaker 1: design of the original was so brilliant it worked on 914 00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,920 Speaker 1: just about every shallow water predator. With any bait fish invitation, 915 00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:20,880 Speaker 1: it's all about the wobble, and the bass arena wobble 916 00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,760 Speaker 1: is like nothing else. It's not even really a wobble. 917 00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,120 Speaker 1: It's more like a high speed dart and glide with 918 00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:29,319 Speaker 1: a few random hip thrusts here and there. Anglers like 919 00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,240 Speaker 1: to compare a lure action to dancing, and if modern 920 00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:35,440 Speaker 1: cranks are Miley Cyrus, the bass arena is James Brown. 921 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,279 Speaker 1: You never really know which direction it's gonna go when 922 00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:41,240 Speaker 1: it gets up and does its thing. The bass arena 923 00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,960 Speaker 1: was part of the first wave of industrial lure innovation 924 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,839 Speaker 1: in the United States. It was patented the same year 925 00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,600 Speaker 1: as the first lip crank bait, the creek chip, But 926 00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,879 Speaker 1: the arena has no lamp. It's a cylindrical, solid wood 927 00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,279 Speaker 1: lure with a sharp taper to the tail and a 928 00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:59,920 Speaker 1: scooped out face that scoop sits right below the surfaces 929 00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,080 Speaker 1: of water when the baits arrest, so that when you 930 00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:05,000 Speaker 1: start retrieving it, it digs down into the water and 931 00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:08,239 Speaker 1: forces the bait under. The sharp rear taper creates the 932 00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,880 Speaker 1: erratic darting, wiggling, and gliding that seduced irritable and hungry 933 00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:15,080 Speaker 1: fish for more than a century. I'm not giving you 934 00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,760 Speaker 1: some nostalgic bs about vintage tackle. I am not now, 935 00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,040 Speaker 1: nor have I ever been, one of those guys who 936 00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:24,120 Speaker 1: collects old lures in their original packaging to arrange its 937 00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,600 Speaker 1: soft angles and curio cabinets. Lures are meant to be fished, 938 00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,319 Speaker 1: and if I'm gonna tie one on, it better get bit. 939 00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,360 Speaker 1: My uncles have been fishing the lakes of northern Wisconsin 940 00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:37,000 Speaker 1: together for more years than I can count to this day. 941 00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,719 Speaker 1: Every single time they go out together, one or both 942 00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,560 Speaker 1: of them is guaranteed to tie on a bass raino. 943 00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:47,080 Speaker 1: Why a couple of reasons. First, at this point in 944 00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:49,239 Speaker 1: their lives, neither one of my uncles has any time 945 00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,200 Speaker 1: or patients for finesse fishing. They want a fan cast 946 00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,239 Speaker 1: around for a couple of hours, get that hit of 947 00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:56,600 Speaker 1: adrenaline from a hard bite on a quick retrieve, and 948 00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,840 Speaker 1: then head home in time to catch the first pitch 949 00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,640 Speaker 1: of the Cubs game with a Miller high life. The 950 00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:05,200 Speaker 1: solid cedar body and aerodynamic shape lets them cast bass 951 00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:08,160 Speaker 1: arena's long distances with little effort and burn them back 952 00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:13,919 Speaker 1: searching large areas for aggressive fish. Second, my uncles are generalists. 953 00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:17,959 Speaker 1: They're not so much interested in specific fish. They're after 954 00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:22,799 Speaker 1: willing fish, bass pike, walle muskie. Men don't care as 955 00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:24,640 Speaker 1: long as you get bit once in a while. The 956 00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:28,080 Speaker 1: bass arenos generic bait, fish look and timeless strike triggers 957 00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:31,239 Speaker 1: means that just about anything hungry enough or angry enough 958 00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,000 Speaker 1: will take a whack at it, and the three troubles 959 00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,759 Speaker 1: dangling off the belly give them a good chance of 960 00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,440 Speaker 1: putting at least one fish in the net, even if 961 00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:44,040 Speaker 1: they're not really paying attention. Third, they have confidence. These 962 00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:47,040 Speaker 1: guys have been consistently hooking up on these lures since 963 00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:50,279 Speaker 1: Carter was in office, maybe earlier, I don't actually know. 964 00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,520 Speaker 1: One time, my uncle Jim was fishing a favorite areno, 965 00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,959 Speaker 1: the frog color, and he hooked a hammer handle pike. 966 00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,200 Speaker 1: When he went to grab that fish from the net, 967 00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:02,560 Speaker 1: it's surged and my uncle wound up with two barbs 968 00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,120 Speaker 1: in the meat of his hand. At the er later 969 00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,160 Speaker 1: that day, the doc asked if he could keep the 970 00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,520 Speaker 1: plug and add it to their collection of lures removed 971 00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:12,799 Speaker 1: from fisherman. My uncle said, hell, no, that's a damn 972 00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,720 Speaker 1: good lure. I'm not giving that away. The following season 973 00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,720 Speaker 1: he caught his personal best muskie on that exact bait. 974 00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:21,680 Speaker 1: He still has the scar in his hand, the musky 975 00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:25,680 Speaker 1: on his wall, and the bass serina in his tackle box. Sadly, 976 00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,440 Speaker 1: no one makes this bait anymore. Lur Jensen acquired the 977 00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:32,239 Speaker 1: patent two but discontinued them a few years ago. The 978 00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,600 Speaker 1: good news is that you can still find plenty of 979 00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,040 Speaker 1: used ones online for cheap. Don't be afraid to buy 980 00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:38,600 Speaker 1: one that looks like it's been chewed up for time 981 00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,760 Speaker 1: or two. Those scars, they're just proof a good mojo. 982 00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:50,680 Speaker 1: All right, that's it for this inaugural episode of Meat Eaters, 983 00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:54,959 Speaker 1: first dedicated fishing podcast. Let's have a drink. Miles, we got, 984 00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:58,439 Speaker 1: we got, we got through it man. Please, Oh Joe, 985 00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:03,399 Speaker 1: pour me an extra finger for three. Uh well, Joe 986 00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:05,760 Speaker 1: and I get drunk. Please let us know what you liked, 987 00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,920 Speaker 1: what you hated, what we messed up, and just generally, 988 00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:13,520 Speaker 1: how you doing. Send an email to bent that b 989 00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:17,680 Speaker 1: e n T at the meat eater dot com. Also, 990 00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,000 Speaker 1: why are you there? Give us some stars, leave us 991 00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,719 Speaker 1: a review, and best of all, if you like this show, 992 00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,600 Speaker 1: tell two friends about it, then they'll tell two friends 993 00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:27,960 Speaker 1: and so on. It's like six degrees of Kevin Bacon. 994 00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:31,680 Speaker 1: Remember that I never got that I never got, So 995 00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,120 Speaker 1: I gotta say, we need a closer for this, Joe, 996 00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:37,040 Speaker 1: and it just pisces me off. It's like a pet 997 00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,319 Speaker 1: peeve in the fishing industry, of the fishing community when 998 00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:43,120 Speaker 1: people end conversations or emails or anything with tight lines. 999 00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:45,359 Speaker 1: Tight lines. So I'm gonna tell you right now, I'm 1000 00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:48,359 Speaker 1: never gonna spin off any of these shows with tight 1001 00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,360 Speaker 1: lines because it just irks me. Instead, i'm gonna say, 1002 00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:56,000 Speaker 1: simply just go fishing, and uh, I'll keep the rods 1003 00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:56,920 Speaker 1: band while I'm doing it.