1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 2: Mayor of Milwaukee, Cavalier Johnson, mister Mayor, it's great to 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 2: have you here at the table with us. Thank you 4 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 2: for coming over. 5 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: Thank you. 6 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 2: I know you have a couple of things going on today. 7 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 2: I've been talking to Republicans Kaylee two here on set 8 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 2: and outside, walking around the streets and at the convention hall. 9 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 2: Everyone seems to be a pretty big fan of Milwaukee. 10 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 2: So if we put this behind us. 11 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: Look when I first heard that, that was news to 12 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: me too, because yeah, okay, I remember going to Washington 13 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: to do the final pitch to the Republican National Committee's headquarters, 14 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: and nowhere around we were any former presidents. It was 15 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:41,919 Speaker 1: just me and the county executive. Okay, our team here. 16 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: But he didn't pick Milwauk. No, no, you didn't. It 17 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 1: was hard work by our visitors and tourism Bureau US 18 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: selling Milwaukee, and ultimately that's what transpired to get us 19 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: to where we are today. But I, like you, have 20 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: been talking to a lot of Republicans who are here 21 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: from across the country and even you know form press 22 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: as well. Everybody's just blown away by the city. First 23 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: time here, their first impression of Wisconsin is this, and they. 24 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 3: Love it well. It takes a lot to put on 25 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 3: a convention like this, especially in the aftermath of an 26 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 3: assassination attempt. We have all borne witnessed to the incredible 27 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 3: amounts of security, the barriers that have been acted, police 28 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 3: who have come in from out of state. What kind 29 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 3: of resources go into hosting this And like net net is, 30 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 3: does it cost the city more or gain the city 31 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 3: more in terms of economic impact? Sure? 32 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: So in terms of the security apparatus, which is the 33 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: largest expenditure we have here. Cities who host these sort 34 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: of events get a grant from the federal government. So 35 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: typically those grants have been stuck at fifty million dollars 36 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: going back to two thousand and four. That was the 37 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: first year that these conventions, both the Republican and Democratic 38 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:47,119 Speaker 1: national conventions, we're getting funding for them in the wake 39 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: of nine to eleven. Then as you look to today, 40 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: twenty years later, things are a little more expensive. So 41 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: myself county executive partners on the ground here in this community, 42 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: we worked in a bipartisan manner. We went to Washington, DC. 43 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: We lobbied members of Congress, Republicans and Democrats and ask 44 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: for a twenty five million dollar increase to support this convention. 45 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: Our lobbying was successful, and so there's seventy five million 46 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: dollars going to support the security efforts around the convention. 47 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 2: So this is massive. You've got to be involved on 48 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 2: a lot of layers that people don't tend to think about. 49 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 2: But what does a Democrat do when Republicans come to 50 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 2: his city? In your case, are you in the hall 51 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 2: over there? 52 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: Are you? 53 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 2: Are you going to the breakfasts and the forums with 54 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 2: the RNC? 55 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:31,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this is a national and a global 56 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: event that's taking place in my city and an opportunity 57 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: to elevate Milwaukee too. So yes, I do go and 58 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: I go check it out. Now, certainly I am a Democrat, 59 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, I'm going to the DNC as a 60 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: delegate next month, probably to vote for President Joe Biden 61 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: to continue on in his job here, and I think 62 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 1: he'll win reelection. However, the same time, there's the political end, 63 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: and then there's the business end. The business for me 64 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: is making sure that we promote Milwaukee across the world. 65 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: That's what I want to do. 66 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 3: Just because you brought us here, Mayor and Joe Biden. 67 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 3: You say you're planning to go to Chicago and cast 68 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 3: your vote as a delegate for Joe Biden. Yet another 69 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 3: Democrat today, in a high profile one at that Congressman 70 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 3: Adam Schiff of California, has now joined a growing list 71 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 3: of members of your party who say they do not 72 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 3: believe that Biden can beat Donald Trump and should drop 73 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 3: out as a result. What do you think about that. 74 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 1: I think he and other Democrats are wrong. There's only 75 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: one person in the United States who has ever beaten 76 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: Donald Trump in a political contest, and his name is 77 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: Joe Biden. He has an outstanding record to run on 78 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: over the course of the last three years, and he's 79 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: got tremendous plans for a second term. This also reminds 80 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: me of what happened in twenty twenty during the Democratic primaries. Right, 81 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: we had people on the front end who voted and voted, 82 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: and then we said, hey, why don't we let the 83 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: diversity and the Democratic Party speak? And then South Carolina 84 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: came and Joe Biden had all this support in the world. 85 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: Now he's President the United States, So let's allow for 86 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 1: minorities for African American, particularly African American women to speak 87 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: in this. 88 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 3: Election, but the data would suggest that more and more 89 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 3: they are turning away from President Biden. Well you don't 90 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 3: believe that. 91 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: Well, I can tell you this. I go out and 92 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: I speak to my constituents. We were having a conversation 93 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: just about festivals and things like that on the ground 94 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: in this city. I go out to all those festivals 95 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 1: and I engage with voters, particularly African American voters and 96 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: African American mail voters too. I asked them the question 97 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: about the election coming up, just real talk. Are you voting? 98 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: Are you registered? Some say yes, some say no. Many 99 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: of them have said yes and say, okay, who are 100 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 1: you voting for? You know, just real talk, just me 101 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: and you, And they say, we're voting for President Joe Biden. 102 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: There is no other person to vote for. And there's 103 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: reasons for that because they know that Joe Biden has 104 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: delivered for black people in this city and in this 105 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: state and across the country. And you know, they know 106 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: what they would get under a second Trump presidency. And 107 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: so my understanding from talking directly with my constituents is 108 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: that they are voting for President Joe. 109 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 2: Biden, and Wisconsin's going to be awfully important if he's 110 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 2: going to pull this off. A lot of folks say 111 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 2: he cannot be the president without Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania. That said, 112 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 2: you're referring to four years ago here almost that. I 113 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,359 Speaker 2: remember that I talked to Joe Biden in New Hampshire 114 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 2: and what was supposed to be the eve of his 115 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 2: campaign ending, and things turned out a lot differently. But 116 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 2: where's he going to be four years from now is 117 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 2: what many people are asking the oldest president ever. If 118 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 2: his mental acuity is not there, he's not physically able 119 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 2: to do the job. Do you have confidence in Kamala 120 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 2: Harris or do you entertain the ideas of blowing this 121 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 2: whole thing open and finding a new ticket. 122 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: I'm not interested in nullifying the votes of millions of 123 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: people who voted for Joe Biden as an insult that 124 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: we're talking about people other than Kamala Harris. Yes it is, Yes, 125 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: absolutely it is. But the fact of the matter, regardless 126 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 1: of who we're talking about, Joe Biden is a nominee 127 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: anybody eve, including Democrats who are saying he should drop up. 128 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 1: They had the opportunity to run against him in the primary. 129 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: They chose not and chose not to do it. President 130 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 1: Biden got the votes necessary, he's got the delegates necessary. 131 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: He's going to be our nominee. We are going to 132 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: support him, and I believe he's going to win, not 133 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: just but in Wisconsin and win re election to the presidency. 134 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 3: What does it take to win Wisconsin. What's the winning 135 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 3: issue in Wisconsin? 136 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: The President has to come, continue to come. He has 137 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: been doing it, and I'm glad that he's been doing 138 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: it because it's important. And that's why his campaign has 139 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: been making early and often investments reaching out to voters 140 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: all across Milwaukee, especially black voters, so let them know 141 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: about the deliverables that his administration has gotten for them 142 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: and people across the state and across this country. But 143 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: they've got to continue to come to tell the story. 144 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,559 Speaker 1: The difference between these two men in this binary choice 145 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: for president is that one is a show horse and 146 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: one is a workhorse. Right, Joe Biden tucks his head down. 147 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: He just gets the job done. He just Joe just goes. 148 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 1: He just gets a job. She just gets a job done. 149 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 1: But he's got to also toot his horn and let 150 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: folks know what's going on. He has been doing that. 151 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 1: Folks have been coming here. I encourage him to continue 152 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: doing that leading up to the election. 153 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 3: All right, mister Mayor, thank you for joining us, and 154 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 3: thank you for having us here in Milwaukee. I appreciate 155 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 3: your time in hospitality. Milwaukee Mayor Cavalier Johnson here with 156 00:06:58,480 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 3: us on Bloomberg