1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,680 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio had the best sports talk lineup in 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. 4 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 2: He Happy New Year's Eve. You made it through twenty 5 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 2: twenty five. Congratulations. How much longer does Lincoln Riley have 6 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 2: That's a whole other question. Aaron Torres disaster at the 7 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 2: Alamobile and it just gets bad to worse for the 8 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 2: Trojans head coach. 9 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 3: Interesting month for him, to say the least, with the 10 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:33,279 Speaker 3: Notre Dame stuff, which you know you and I were 11 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 3: filling in in this time slot last week, well right 12 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 3: around this time, and yeah, the Notre Dame stuff certainly 13 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 3: rubbed a lot of people in that community the wrong way. 14 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 3: And fast forward and now it's not much better. After 15 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 3: the the Alamo bo loss on Tuesday night. 16 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 2: We're gonna get a chance to hear how things ended 17 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 2: last night for the USC Trojans in dramatic fashion in 18 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 2: San Antonio. And it's only fitting because it is New 19 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 2: Year's Eve. We got the Reliant Relyia Quest Bowl going on, 20 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:09,119 Speaker 2: once known as the Outback Bowl. We've got the the 21 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:15,559 Speaker 2: Cheese Its Bowl going on with Texas and Michigan about 22 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 2: to play. 23 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 3: I believe it's the cheese at Citrus Bowl, which feels 24 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 3: a little counterintuitive to me, but hey, I who am 25 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 3: I to talk about food groups? 26 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 2: Citrus Bowl is always a staple in Orlando, and then 27 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 2: it's not the granddaddy of them all, but it's one 28 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 2: of my personal favorites. We've got Sun Ball action, Arizona 29 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 2: State Duke from El Paso. It's what we've got on 30 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 2: this New Year's Eve. I love it. I told Aaron 31 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 2: before the show why I love the Sun Bowl so much. 32 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 2: It's a stadium that we don't get the Sea a 33 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 2: lot because we don't get to see UTEP, right, we 34 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 2: don't see UTEP football that often the Relia Quest Bowls 35 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 2: where the Buccaneers play in Tampa, So when the Buccaneers 36 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 2: are playing, we're seeing that every other week in the 37 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 2: National Football League. This stadium sells out. It's on CBS, 38 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 2: it's not on ESPN's variety of options of bowl game 39 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 2: channels to watch, and it's the top crew because it's 40 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 2: the only CBS Bowl game they have. So sign me 41 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,959 Speaker 2: up for some Arizona State Duke on New Year's Eve 42 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 2: in the Sun Bowl because the Sun Bowl is where 43 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 2: it's at on December thirty. 44 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 4: First, I will tell you really quick. 45 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 3: I know that there is a lot of dirt being 46 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 3: thrown on Bowl Season's grave, and I get it. And 47 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 3: I know we're gonna talk about the Alamo Bowl in 48 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 3: a second. But the Sumbowl, I agree. I think it's 49 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 3: a really cool setting that we don't get see very often. 50 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 3: I'll also say this despite the result, because you're a 51 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 3: man that spends some time in San Antonio. 52 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 4: Santoni is a really fun like I was watching. 53 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 3: I was looking at yesterday the river walk and this 54 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 3: and that, no disrespect. I don't know if I would 55 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 3: want to live in San Antonio, but to go travel 56 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 3: there once every couple of years, it's always a fun trip. 57 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 3: So I was watching that Alamo Bowl with nostalgia because 58 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 3: of course, so I was there for the Final four 59 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 3: back in April of this year. 60 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 2: So you should go there when there is in a 61 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 2: final four. 62 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I bet. 63 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 2: I bet you should go there in June during an 64 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 2: NBA finals for nine days. Yeah, for a while. I've 65 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 2: been there. I've been there. It's different than the Final four, 66 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 2: trust me, it's different. San Antonio, El Paso, Milan. Speaking 67 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 2: of Milan, the roads of Milan runs through Saint Louis 68 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 2: see Iliam Allen and Alyssa lu and Ambergen Glenn compete 69 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 2: at the twenty twenty six prevage in US Figure Skating 70 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 2: Championships January seventh through the eleventh b there as the 71 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 2: twenty twenty sixth US Olympic Figure Skating team is named 72 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 2: live tickets at US figure Skating dot org. So if 73 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 2: you missed it last night, maybe you were in bed 74 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 2: getting ready for tonight's New Year's Eve festivities, hoping to 75 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: get that rest so you can stay up late. This 76 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 2: is how the Alamo Bowl ended last night. In overtime 77 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 2: between USC and TCU. 78 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 4: Sailes dumps. 79 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 2: It left pain clicks one tackle at two at times forward. 80 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 5: Silist texid to the to the five. 81 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 4: Is it yet, pads, Let's. 82 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 5: See Sis touchdown. Ken seals the deal here tonight and 83 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 5: the horn Frogs have filed the MAgric against USC one 84 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 5: four time. 85 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 2: Okay, now, it was a game that probably shouldn't have 86 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 2: come down to that play, but it did. TCU ends 87 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 2: up descending a kicking overtime. At the end of regulation 88 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 2: forces overtime, USC kicks a field goal. TCU facing a 89 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 2: third and long and on a screen pass. That's how 90 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 2: it ends up breaking down. Now, what the thing I 91 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 2: love about it is it's very representative of what we 92 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 2: are now thinking about USC and what we are thinking 93 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 2: of Lincoln Riley. Here's a school that has a lead 94 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 2: in a game in overtime and the opponent is in 95 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 2: a really, really tough spot. You miss a few tackles, 96 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 2: you don't do your assignment, and the next thing, you know, 97 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 2: a third and long as a touchdown reception in TCU 98 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 2: ends up winning the ballgame. And it seems like it 99 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 2: was a perfect metaphor Aaron Torres for how things have 100 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 2: gone for Lincoln Riley. I can't remember someone's name who 101 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 2: was so hot that was the can't miss coach that 102 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 2: had everything there for them. Have a reputation now that 103 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 2: has been spoiled so much without a big grand scandal, 104 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 2: sure without like some crazy thing happening behind the scenes 105 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 2: that we didn't know that came to light. This like 106 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley was not only thought to be possibly the 107 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 2: next king of college football, but whenever he wanted, he 108 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 2: would go on to the National Football League, bring his 109 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 2: offense there and end up winning a Super Bowl or 110 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 2: having success at the pro football level. I think that 111 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 2: was the path that we all thought was there for 112 00:05:57,080 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley. Now that path does not seem like that, 113 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 2: and I think we look at Lincoln Riley in a 114 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 2: completely different light than we did when he took over 115 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 2: at Oklahoma for Bob Stoops. It's just been a crazy 116 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 2: one to eighty in how I think Lincoln Riley is 117 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 2: perceived by so many. 118 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really interesting. 119 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 3: I remember being on air doing my College foot you know, 120 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 3: it's not a college football show, but my Saturday show 121 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 3: with Jason Martin during the year after Caleb Williams won 122 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 3: the Heisman Trophy. If you remember, they went seven to 123 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 3: five I think in the regular season, and that was 124 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 3: the big Well, Caleb Williams is going to be gone 125 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 3: next year? Does he try to leave for the NFL? 126 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 3: And I said, why would the NFL want him? Because 127 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 3: you know, and this is all in the moment, but 128 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 3: the offense completely fell apart in that second year. Couldn't 129 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 3: run the football, play calling wasn't good, defense was obviously atrocious, 130 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 3: and it was actually Caleb Williams who was largely carrying 131 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 3: them at various points in the season. And it just 132 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 3: it does feel like you know, and I think part 133 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 3: of it too, Dan, because there was a comment that 134 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 3: Lincoln Riley made after the game where he said, I 135 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 3: really believe a window here has opened. It's taken a 136 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 3: lot of effort by a lot of people, but I 137 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 3: believe the window is open. Now people are saying, dude, 138 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 3: you're going into year five, and so I bring it 139 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 3: up because it's everything that he did at Oklahoma. 140 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 4: I would also. 141 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 3: Add him going eleven and one in year one at USC, 142 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 3: losing in the Pac twelve Championship game, then losing a 143 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 3: bowl game. I think going eleven and one probably didn't 144 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 3: help his cause either, because it just further elevated this 145 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 3: is the guy. He's unbelievable, He's this, he's that, and 146 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 3: it not only has not been that, but like you said, 147 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 3: it's just this weird thing of it just feels like 148 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 3: since about the middle of that first year at USC, 149 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 3: it's been one negative headline after another. 150 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 2: I would even say that for the way that he 151 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:48,239 Speaker 2: left Oklahoma. Oh yeah, then now all of a sudden, 152 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 2: all of Norman, all of the state of Oklahoma that's 153 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 2: not still water. It couldn't stand Lincoln Riley for that move. 154 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 2: And so the goal golden boy, if you will, the 155 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 2: young offensive mind. The way that he left Oklahoma was 156 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 2: the first mark in that you talk about the success 157 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 2: that they had at USC up until their final two 158 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 2: games of that season, ending up in a great spot. 159 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 2: But then, okay, it takes a little bit of a turn. 160 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 2: Like we thought, honestly when Oklahoma, when he was leading Oklahoma, 161 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 2: that you would just go to Oklahoma as a quarterback 162 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 2: and you would win the Heisman Trophy. That's because it's 163 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield, it's Kyler Murray. That his offense was going 164 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 2: to allow you to do that. And the question was 165 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 2: again how long was he going to stay there? When 166 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 2: was he going to go to the NFL? And now 167 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 2: and to hear the comments of him in this war 168 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 2: of words, this is what really stood out to me 169 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 2: because it was brought up at the Alamobile again earlier 170 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 2: this week and he made comments about it and took 171 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 2: a shot at Notre Dame. And this story just for 172 00:08:55,800 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 2: whatever reason, is not dying. Yeah, and I don't know why, 173 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 2: but the telling factor to me, Aaron on why I 174 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 2: think the Lincoln Riley situation has just gone a complete 175 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 2: oneint eighty and for a person that who has thought 176 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 2: so highly and nothing major has happened to I just 177 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 2: can't believe that everybody has soured on him. Is that 178 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 2: it seems that everybody's signing with Notre Dame. And that 179 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 2: may be a general sort of comment, but Notre Dame 180 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 2: is the easy school to hate, right independent, They're by themselves, 181 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 2: and I feel that more of the groundswell of support 182 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 2: in this argument has not been for USC, but it's 183 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 2: been actually for Notre Dame, as both of these sides 184 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 2: have been exchanging their word. So that's the That's the 185 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 2: part to me where I'm saying, while people are actually 186 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 2: looking at Notre Dame and saying, yeah, Notre Dame's in 187 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 2: the writing, whoever wants to take the side of Notre 188 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 2: Dame right like, that's where we are. And I think 189 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 2: part of that is because of what has become with 190 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley's reputation. 191 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 3: Well, and I know it doesn't pertain to him being 192 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 3: the hottest NFL candidate, which is I know the theme 193 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 3: of the conversation at one point he was. But what 194 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 3: I will say is it does feel like remember when 195 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 3: remember when the move happened and Oklahoma fans are just 196 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,839 Speaker 3: bashing him. Oh he's you know, he's soft. He's and 197 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 3: you know he's afraid of going to the SEC because 198 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 3: we knew that Oklahoma was going to the SEC at 199 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 3: that point. Everything they said has kind of become true, right, 200 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 3: is that his team's play soft. That team Oklahoma got 201 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 3: softer the longer that he was the head coach. He 202 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 3: as a person, I don't know him personally, but him 203 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 3: as a character in the college sport or the football 204 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 3: landscape is kind of soft. But I think it's a metaphor. 205 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 3: You know, it's easy to forget this. Now, when he 206 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,719 Speaker 3: left for USC, we did not know that USC was 207 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 3: going to the Big Ten. And the reason he went 208 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 3: to USC was because he thought it was going to 209 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 3: be an easier pathway to the college football playoff. And 210 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 3: so I only bring that up because he goes to 211 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 3: the USC because he thinks it's an easier pathway. Then 212 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 3: they go to the Big Ten. Now he wants to 213 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 3: cancel Notre Dame. And to your point, I think this 214 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 3: is the crazy part. It's not only that Notre Dame 215 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 3: fans have are on Notre Dame side. It's not only 216 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 3: that the general public that just wants to see the 217 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 3: game keep going. You and I had this discussion last week. 218 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 3: We played the Petros Papadekas sound on The Dan Patrick 219 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 3: Show when Brady Quinn was filling in Petros a USC 220 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,559 Speaker 3: as prominent a voice as there is in the media. 221 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 3: Keishawn Johnson, it's USC people that are not happy with 222 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 3: Lincoln Riley for the decision to cancel that game. And 223 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 3: I really felt like, and I forget if we talked 224 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 3: about it last week, but I really felt like that 225 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,839 Speaker 3: was the line in the sand for Lincoln Riley at 226 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 3: USC specifically of we've let you come in and change 227 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 3: everything the way that we do everything. But Keishawn Johnson 228 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 3: said it in that big rant that he did that 229 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 3: went crazy viral. Is you gotta start winning now or 230 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 3: you're not gonna be here. I don't care about this. 231 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 3: That the other thing you look away Notre Dame. You're 232 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 3: afraid to play quality competition. You better make the college 233 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 3: football playoffs soon or you're not going to be here 234 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 3: very long. 235 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:11,319 Speaker 2: Lendale White's another I can see this. Lendale Whites on 236 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 2: Twitter last night had the variety of tweets, most of 237 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 2: which I can't read on the air on how things 238 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:25,559 Speaker 2: ended up playing out, but even Mattleiner responded another USC, 239 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 2: So you have USC on USC crime with all of this, I. 240 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 4: Will say this. 241 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 3: Sue Cravens, who played for USC and in the NFL 242 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 3: for a while, was going off last night too, in 243 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 3: a respectful way. Let me see here, he said, playoff 244 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 3: or bust. Done with the waiting, And then I saw 245 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 3: one that I wanted that I saw here. This is 246 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 3: what he said. He said, this was from fourteen hours ago, 247 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 3: So about you know, you know whatever, ten pm Pacific, 248 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 3: he said, Get more players in the building, coaching and 249 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 3: showing these guys what it really means to be a trojan. 250 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 3: Let practices be open again and allow every single media 251 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 3: camera on the sideline create that Pete Carroll and environment 252 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 3: of competition. Pressure makes diamonds. So basically every USC alum 253 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 3: that's in the media is calling themself. 254 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 2: I'll try to clean up this Lendale White tweet or 255 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 2: the tweets makes sense. A bleep team couldn't win a 256 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 2: Bleep Bowl. We lost a week bleep TCU, so that 257 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 2: means we're sorry as bleep. There's do you all ever 258 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 2: practice tackling ever? Or is it always about offense? That 259 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 2: was a clean one that I could read good. Yeah, 260 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 2: so a lot of a lot from Lendale White last 261 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 2: night in frustration, like a lot of the frustration that 262 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 2: Aaron talks about usc Alum's former players having about the 263 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley era. And the crazy thing is is I 264 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 2: always thought that Lincoln Riley was a and he maybe 265 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 2: I don't know him personally, but had this sort of 266 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:52,839 Speaker 2: I guess personality early on, maybe at Oklahoma that I 267 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 2: thought was something that would warm up, and it just 268 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 2: does not. Has happened, hasn't happened at all. And then 269 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 2: then he gets on the defensive and that sounds even worse, 270 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 2: like there are some people who can maybe pass it off, 271 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 2: but he can't do it. The turnaround to me is 272 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 2: just it's surprising, like I look at someone like Russell 273 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 2: Wilson where nothing bad has ever happened to him, and 274 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 2: his play is kind of gone down south, can't play 275 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 2: at the level that he once did of someone that 276 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 2: we just looked completely different at. But that's on field 277 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 2: performance mostly driven his personality and what he tries to 278 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 2: portray I think does lead into maybe some of the 279 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 2: turn with it, but nothing like what we've seen with 280 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 2: where I thought Lincoln Riley was at the top of 281 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 2: the food chain of coaches and now at the bottom, 282 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 2: not well liked in a tough spot at USC. Very 283 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 2: very strange. 284 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 3: Okay, So I just thought of one in real time, okay, 285 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 3: and it didn't happen as quickly as Lincoln Riley. How 286 00:14:55,480 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 3: about Northwestern's new offensive coordinator, Chip Kelly. This dude, Okay, 287 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 3: whatever we think of Chip Kelly, let's just go through 288 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 3: for even post Oregon, he goes to the Philadelphia Eagles 289 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 3: back to back ten win seasons a decade ago and 290 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 3: by the way, a year ago national championship with Ohio State. 291 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 3: Now he's the offensive coordinator at Northwestern. Like I just 292 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 3: I was thinking a little bit about that yesterday. Is 293 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 3: like imagine telling someone the peak Oregon years where they 294 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 3: were scoring sixty without even trying that. It was just like, oh, yeah, 295 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 3: in ten years, this guy will be the Northwestern head coach, 296 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 3: like it would have been inconceivable at that point. Again, 297 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 3: I know it's a longer period of time, but there 298 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 3: aren't to your point about Lincoln Rady, there aren't a 299 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 3: lot of good examples of we didn't even think he 300 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 3: was attainable at the college level to get him to 301 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 3: leave Oklahoma, but he'll be in the NFL at some point. 302 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 3: It's a matter of if not when. And now he's 303 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 3: basically saying year five is when our window is opening. 304 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 4: At USC, Year. 305 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 2: One in Philadelphia was amazing for chip Kelly. Then it 306 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 2: all went downhill. Then he ended up being Austin in Philadelphia, 307 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 2: was with the Niners for a year that was just 308 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 2: a completely forgettable year. And then to your point, there 309 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 2: was never a point where you got back up to 310 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 2: the to the high. I thought that last year with 311 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 2: Ohio State there was a bit of a building back 312 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 2: up because the UCLA tenure was a pretty much a failure. 313 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 2: And then now with the Raiders job, and to your 314 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 2: point now at Northwestern, Yeah, it's been an interesting cycle. 315 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 3: Chip Kelly is the Northwester like that just does not 316 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 3: sound like it should be the thing that it is. 317 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 2: You know, no, not at all. I completely agree. Good nominee. 318 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 2: If you have any other nominees, let aeron know at 319 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 2: Aaron Underscore towards. 320 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 4: His life is completely falling apart professionally. 321 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 2: Tune on in at Dan Byron Foxes where you can 322 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 2: find me. Sesame Street helped raise all of us. Now 323 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 2: it's our turn donate this holiday season at sesame dot 324 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 2: org because the world needs Sesame and Sesame needs you. 325 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 2: We're gonna talk with Fox Sports Radios Jeff Schwartz, part 326 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 2: of Countdown to Off, presented by Bett MGM, that you 327 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 2: hear every Sunday morning here on Fox Sports Radio. He's 328 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 2: familiar with the USC program played at Oregon, but southern 329 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 2: California native will get his thoughts on that, plus his 330 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 2: thoughts on the college football playoff quarterfinals. I get going 331 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 2: tonight with the Cotton Bowl featuring Miami against Ohio State. 332 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 2: He is aeron Torres. I'm Dan Byer. Isaac lowincronnez here, 333 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 2: as is Jason Stewart. 334 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 335 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsportsradio dot 336 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: com and within the iHeartRadio app. 337 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 2: A very happy New Year's Eve twenty twenty six. Just 338 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 2: around the corner. He's erin Torres. I'm Dan Byer. Jeff 339 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 2: Schwartz is around our corner. But first, Aaron, have you 340 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 2: heard about trainer games? Add this to your binge list. 341 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 2: Ten athletes go head to head for a chance to 342 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 2: win an I Fit trainer contract with two hundred and 343 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars streaming on Prime Video starting January eighth. 344 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 2: He is the co host of Fox Sports Radio's Countdown 345 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 2: to Kickoff, presented by Bett MGM alongside Bill Krackenberger and 346 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 2: Brian no every Sunday morning. Make sure you tune in 347 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 2: Sunday at ten o'clock Eastern time. Is they take you 348 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 2: all the Way to kick Off on Fox Sports Radio 349 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 2: on the iHeartRadio app presented all by Bett mgm. Former 350 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 2: NFL i'man Jeff Schwartz joins the program. Happy New Year, Jeff, 351 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 2: how are you? 352 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 6: I am making sweeping judgments about every conference and team 353 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 6: based off of exhibition Bowl games. That's what I'm doing. 354 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 6: All right, Great, We're gonna make sweeping judgments on anything, 355 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 6: and we're gonna we're gonna do the the the it 356 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,439 Speaker 6: was it transversive property when you do, like the sixth 357 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 6: seed in the Big ten beat the three seed in 358 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 6: the Big twelve, and that seed beat beat Oregon, and 359 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 6: this seed beat that and therefore my team's winning. 360 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 4: What about Dame. They didn't play anything. 361 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 6: They're not playing they're not playing correct. 362 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 2: It's a it's a great it's a great day. Then 363 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 2: to be in the Big Ten, except if you're USC 364 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 2: and Lincoln Riley. That's where Aaron and I started the show. 365 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 2: And just to if you if you didn't catch it, Jeff, 366 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 2: it's basically I can't remember and neither early can Aaron. 367 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 2: Such a turnaround of of I guess how we view 368 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:04,439 Speaker 2: someone that we've seen a one eighty from Lincoln Riley, 369 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 2: who was once the hottest name maybe in alive coaching 370 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:10,439 Speaker 2: with college football and maybe eyes on the NFL, to 371 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 2: now being I don't know, just such. It feels like 372 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 2: such a negative factor in college football. You won't shut 373 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:21,199 Speaker 2: up about the Notre Dame rivalry. What are your thoughts 374 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 2: on Lincoln Riley and how things have gone during his 375 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 2: time not only with USC, but just through a wildest 376 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 2: coaching career. 377 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 6: Look, man, you just have to feel, really, I don't 378 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 6: know what the word is, impressed, right than a an underdog, 379 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 6: like a little chippy underdog who just is, like, you know, 380 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 6: just battling every week, and there after four years of 381 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 6: a rebuild, they've arrived on the scene, you. 382 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 4: Know, windows out. 383 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 6: You just you just have to like love college football 384 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 6: because this doesn't happen in any other sport where an 385 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 6: underdog like USC can can pick themselves up by their 386 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 6: bootstraps and work as hard as possible and get themselves 387 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 6: in a situation or maybe they cover a road game 388 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 6: next season. So let's hope that us he can do that. 389 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 6: It won't be playing Notre Dame obviously at home next year. 390 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 6: I think I think everyone's just tired of it, Like 391 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 6: you're freaking USC man, Come on, come on your USC now. 392 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 6: I played in the era where you know, Pete Carroll 393 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 6: was dominant USC. And as much as the talk is 394 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 6: about Reggie Bush, who's the best colleture I've ever seen, 395 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 6: and Matt Lionard and and Lendell White and and uh 396 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,959 Speaker 6: and the wide receivers they had, they won in their 397 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 6: trenches right. All five offensive lineman got drafted nearly every 398 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 6: year when I played them, Their backup defensive lineman got drafted, 399 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 6: right Like they had a backup linebacker, their fourth linebacker 400 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 6: who didn't start for them and was a fourth round 401 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:48,719 Speaker 6: draft pick. Like that's what USC was. USC's not that anymore. 402 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 6: They get pushed around, and that's the problem. They get 403 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 6: pushed around. When they stopped getting pushed around, they'll start 404 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 6: winning more football. We know that he can coach quarterbacks. 405 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,239 Speaker 6: We know he can coach wide receivers, We know all 406 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 6: those things. The problem is that get pushed around. That's 407 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 6: the problem. They get pushed around. And when they stop 408 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 6: getting pushed around, then they'll start winning bigger football games. 409 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 3: So let me ask you this, Jeff, on that topic. 410 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 3: So I'll be honest. So I think two things can 411 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:17,439 Speaker 3: be true. I think most people kind of understand the 412 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 3: basics of why USC decided to either opt out or 413 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 3: they could whatever the verbiage is with the Notre Dame thing. 414 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 4: I've actually been. 415 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 3: Surprised how vocal USC people are, Like Keishawn Johnson, Petros 416 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 3: Papadek is basically saying, we don't care what era it is. 417 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 3: We don't care how many trips you have to make 418 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 3: across country to play as part of the Big Ten. 419 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 3: This is a rivalry that we want and we care about. 420 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 3: Have you been surprised how actually vocal the USC contingent 421 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 3: has been on the decision to end that rivalry. 422 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 6: I don't think so, because you know, those guys grew 423 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 6: up with that rivalry and it meant some into them. 424 00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 7: And. 425 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 6: They grow up in an era where you know, that 426 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 6: game felt like I would imagine like the fact that 427 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 6: like national Championship, right, like like we beat Notre Dame, 428 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 6: were as good as we think we are, and I 429 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 6: think that those guys are going to miss out on that. 430 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 6: And it was good. It was always a good way 431 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 6: to test yourself to play Notre Dame. Look, let's be real, 432 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 6: if USC was being Notre Dame, they keep the rivalry 433 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 6: going kind of that simple, right, But but they're not. 434 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 6: They're not being Notre Dame. And that's why the rivalry's gone. 435 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 6: And you can make all the excuses you want. You 436 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 6: want to play wig zero, which just makes no sense 437 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 6: to anyone. No one wants to play the game wing zero. 438 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 6: You know, they want to play the game early in 439 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 6: the season because USC is topically better early in the season. 440 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:37,479 Speaker 6: Like that's when they play they beat LS you were 441 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 6: in the season like that, they're better early in the season. 442 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 2: I don't know why. 443 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 6: I just can continue the way it is. You go 444 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 6: when you play there, you play there in October, you 445 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 6: play in Southern California, you play November. I just continue on. Yeah, 446 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 6: scheduling is hard, man, Like that's one thing that that 447 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 6: Pete Carrolsey back to that era that USC fans talk 448 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 6: about NonStop. They scheduled hard man, They went back east 449 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 6: all the time. They played in Arkansas when Arkansas was good, 450 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 6: they played Virginia Tech in DC. I believe like they 451 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 6: always scheduled tough. They never shot away from anything. It 452 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 6: just feels like those players that played, and some of 453 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 6: those guys were earlier than that us. He never shot 454 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 6: away from those things. I feel like they feel like, 455 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 6: you know, being a big dog program as they are, 456 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,400 Speaker 6: you shouldn't shine away from those type of games. And 457 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 6: it very much feels like they're shying away from those games. Now. 458 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 2: They had a home and home with Ohio State when 459 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 2: they now they're conference foes. But in eight No. Nine, yeah, 460 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,439 Speaker 2: like it was, that's when they actually played schools. He's 461 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 2: aeron Torres. I'm Dan Byer. Jeff Schwortz joining us here 462 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. I know we were laughing at 463 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 2: the bull records, but the SEC just lost again with Vanderbilt. 464 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 2: Could this be a sign to come when it comes 465 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 2: to the college football playoffs starting this over these next 466 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 2: couple of days. Jeff, Well, I hope so, yeah, right, everyone, Yeah, 467 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 2: I hope so. 468 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 6: I I didn't look the bowl game thing man like 469 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,360 Speaker 6: Iowa was the worst team to play in the bowl game, 470 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 6: Our Army, Navy. Like these teams, they have no opt outs. 471 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,439 Speaker 6: All they do is run the football, right, That's just 472 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 6: what they do, and they live for these moments, right, 473 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 6: Like I like, I was never gonna think down about 474 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 6: playing the Relia Quest Bowl, right And I'm not saying 475 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 6: that Vanderbilt can, you know, think down about the game. 476 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 6: But you know, you know, Diego pave Is coming back 477 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 6: from Ohio week of Heisman ceremonies and Vannerbelt wanted to 478 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 6: be a playoff team and all these things, and now 479 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 6: you have to play. Now, go play like the super 480 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 6: fiscal IOWA team. Like, it's just a it's a tough spot. 481 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 6: We don't I think we we we talk about situation 482 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 6: a lot in bowlgames. We actually don't take it that seriously. 483 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 6: Like I think people sort of dismiss it. Oh lol, 484 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,120 Speaker 6: that team doesn't really want to be there. But I've 485 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 6: been on a team that didn't want to be the 486 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 6: but we lost thirty eight to six in a bowl game. 487 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 2: We did not want to be there. 488 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 6: I know that feeling, And that's natural if you don't 489 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 6: if you're not in the bowl game, you think you 490 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 6: should be in, or you lose a conference championship game, 491 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 6: or you know you're supposed to be a playoff team 492 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 6: and you're not. So I just don't know how we 493 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 6: judge it right, because then these rosters leave and they 494 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 6: move on. And so, look, the Big Ten is good. 495 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 6: They're good. They've been good all season. 496 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 2: If you play. 497 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 6: Iowa Van Dy in Week seven, you'll probably get a 498 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 6: different result, right, Like, it's a different type of game. 499 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:06,919 Speaker 6: So it's great for the Big Ten. I think he 500 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 6: does continue tomorrow. I think sorry with tonight. I think 501 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 6: I think Ohio State Win's a close game. I think 502 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:13,880 Speaker 6: it's close, and I think with your Miami a little 503 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 6: bit of credit, they're not as bad as people want 504 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 6: them to be. I think Oregon wentz tomorrow, and I 505 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 6: do think that Indiana, I think they handle business pretty well. 506 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 6: Out to Alabama. It's a bad matchup for Obama. 507 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 3: You know you just brought up a point that I 508 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 3: brought up to Dan earlier today. Is you know, I 509 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 3: know we've said it's playoff or bust, and you know, 510 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 3: in this era, I think it really struck me today, 511 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 3: and I'm curious for your perspective. If you are at 512 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 3: Ohio State those types of programs. Can you actually have 513 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 3: a successful season if you don't make the playoff in 514 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 3: this era? 515 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 4: And I'll give you an example. 516 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 3: Right, So, like Texas is playing right now, I don't 517 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 3: think they would say their season is a failure. I 518 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 3: don't think they would say their season is a success either. 519 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 3: Is there a world where, again, if you're in Ohio State, 520 00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 3: if you're a Michigan under normal circumstances, that you can 521 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 3: even have it, Notre Dame opting out of the Pop 522 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,199 Speaker 3: Darts Bowl. Is there is there a world for programs 523 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,679 Speaker 3: like that in this era where you can deem it 524 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 3: a successful season if you are not one of those, 525 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 3: at least for now twelve teams in the playoff. 526 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 6: I think that's only true for about seven or eight teams. Right, 527 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 6: So you're looking at the Georgia's, the Alabama's, the Texas right, 528 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 6: the Oregon, Ohio st. I think Penn State isn't that 529 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 6: at least they were which James Franklin, they were obviously 530 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 6: a favorite to being the postseasons here in Miami. Maybe Clemson, 531 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 6: you know, Texas Tech, the way they're spending and want 532 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 6: to win, Maybe they're in that group now, But otherwise 533 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 6: that's about it, right Like otherwise, you in a given year, 534 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 6: if you make the playoff, that's really great, but you 535 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 6: really shouldn't shouldn't strive for that to be the only 536 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 6: way you measure success. I do think though, that the 537 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 6: teams I mentioned Indiana, by the way, it might be 538 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 6: that in the in that group. Now, I think we 539 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 6: have to look at the regular season a little bit 540 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 6: differently for those teams, and I view it now more 541 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 6: of an NFL type mindset, where where the regular season 542 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 6: is all about prepping for the playoffs. Like if you 543 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 6: are a certain number of NFL teams, yes, you want 544 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 6: to win every game, but you want to make sure 545 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 6: you're playing your best football in December to get ready 546 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 6: to play in the playoffs. Right, you'd like to knock 547 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 6: go on the playoffs losing you know, seven games in 548 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 6: a row, four or five games in a row seven 549 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 6: obviously a lot, but you know three games with the 550 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 6: Rams right now, probably don't want to go into it. 551 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 6: They're gonna rest everyone this weekend. Most likely. You don't 552 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 6: want to go in the postseason losing your last two 553 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 6: games your starters played, right, Like, that's not a good 554 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 6: feeling to head in the postseason, and I think college 555 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 6: football teams now the ones I mentioned, their goal is 556 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 6: just getting the finish line healthy and get ready to 557 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 6: play your playoffs. Like, for example, my Ducks, I'll talk 558 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 6: about them. I think when they lost January first last year, 559 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 6: their entire purpose this year was to get back to 560 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 6: tomorrow and play in a different type of game than 561 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 6: they played last January first. So all they did all 562 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 6: season was to prepare for this this weekend. Hopefully more so, 563 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 6: you know, they win a game by three or by six, 564 00:27:58,240 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 6: or or you know they pull the starters in the 565 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 6: Corgan's JMU, it's all, it's it's it's all to get 566 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 6: to this point to play tomorrow's game. Same with I 567 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 6: think Ohio State feels the same way. Indiana to some 568 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 6: extent I imagine, feels the same way. Georgia feels the 569 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 6: same way. And so I think it's we have to 570 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 6: maybe view those teams sort of in the NFL esque lens, 571 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 6: where the first six, seven, eight weeks like just win 572 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 6: like win, and then just sort of peak right now. 573 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 6: I think Georgia Green example, like their defense was not 574 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 6: very good early to their standards. It's really good now 575 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 6: right like right now is when you want to be 576 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 6: playing your best football. I think Oregon last year learned 577 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 6: that the hard way. They probably weren't beating Ohio State 578 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,719 Speaker 6: with their best game anyways, but they just weren't as 579 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 6: ready to play on January first, and they peaked way 580 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 6: too early in. 581 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 2: The season last one for me, Jeff Schwartz joining us, 582 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 2: how to think that Oregon got the raw end of 583 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 2: the deal. They have Ohio State in their bracket, and Rea. 584 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 6: We don't have to beat him anyways, at some point 585 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 6: you would have to beat him. I get it, you 586 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 6: would have beat him anyways. I think it would have 587 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 6: been different if you played him. Secondly, but I don't 588 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:55,719 Speaker 6: think we beat I think they were too good last year. 589 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 6: They were they were a fantastic team. 590 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 2: Maybe or maybe Ohio State loses on the other side 591 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 2: of the bracket and you never have have to You 592 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 2: never have to face that's, you know. And the reason 593 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 2: I actually brought it up is because I'm curious about 594 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 2: ole Miss because now if this is a rematch game, 595 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 2: ole Miss hung with Georgia for the most part in 596 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 2: their game in Athens earlier this season. But if it 597 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 2: falls apart, I think we're all gonna say it's because 598 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 2: of Lane Kiffin, And I'm wondering how much is it 599 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 2: to allow Kirby Smart and Georgia a second chance at 600 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 2: Old Miss? How do you see that game playing out 601 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 2: tomorrow night. 602 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 6: So I do wish the committee try to avoid rematches, 603 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 6: because you know, the Dupla Committee does that, like they 604 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 6: they purposely try to schedule teams so they don't have 605 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 6: rematches early in the You can't you can't stop it 606 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 6: in what happens to you know, in the final four, right, 607 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 6: but you can avoid rematches in the round of sixty four, 608 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 6: in the round of thirty two. It does feel like 609 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 6: you could have set up a situation where Old Miss 610 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 6: and Georgia don't play again. But it is, it is 611 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,479 Speaker 6: what it is. I think Georgia is gonna smoke them, 612 00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 6: and I don't think I was going to do with 613 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 6: Lane Kiffin. I think they're just better than All Miss. 614 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 6: And you know, this earlier game, Old Miss scored thirty 615 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 6: five point I think it wasn't the first three cores, 616 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 6: and Georgia just shut them down in the second half. 617 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 6: And they did that to a lot of teams this season. 618 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 6: They did Tennessee. They did to Old Miss. They did 619 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 6: it to Bama in the first Bama game. I think 620 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 6: Georgia is just much better. And again to my point 621 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 6: about preparing for this time of year, Old Miss is 622 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 6: happy to be here, right, Georgia wants to win a championship. 623 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 6: I mean, those are the kind of different mindsets, right, 624 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 6: And that matter is in my opinion when it comes 625 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 6: to how the game's gonna go tomorrow. And look, is 626 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 6: it ideal that half a Lay's staff is in the 627 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 6: Old Miss building right now? Probably not. That's something that 628 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 6: Old Miss has to deal with. But I think they 629 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 6: lose tomorrow, and nothing to do with with Lane. I 630 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 6: think they lose with Lane. I think lose lose without Lane. 631 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 6: So I'm curious obviously to see how that goes. But 632 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 6: I think Georgia and Indiana are my favorite. Just like 633 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 6: put them together in a parlay, it pays minus one 634 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 6: twenty and just those teams are gonna win. 635 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 2: There it is, and start twenty twenty six off on 636 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 2: a winning note. If you listen to Jeff Schwartz. Of course, 637 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 2: you can listen to them every Sunday morning, along Zide, 638 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 2: Brian No and Bill Krockenberger on Countdown to Kickoff, presented 639 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 2: by Bett MGM each Sunday morning at ten o'clock Eastern Time, 640 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 2: seven Pacific. As they take you all the way to Kickoff, Jeff, 641 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 2: we appreciate the time. Happy New Year. Talk to you 642 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six. 643 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 6: Take care, guys. How good new year. 644 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio had the best sports talk lineup in 645 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox sports 646 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. 647 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 2: He's aeron Torres, I'm Dan Byer. It's Fox Sports Radio. 648 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 2: The Road to Milan runs through Saint Louis, cee Ilia 649 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 2: Mallin and Alyssa. Lewin, Amberg Glenn compete at the twenty 650 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 2: twenty six priviagen US Figure Skating Championships January seventh through 651 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 2: the eleventh. Be there as the twenty twenty six US 652 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 2: Olympic Figure Skating team is named. Live tickets at usfigure 653 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 2: Skating dot Org. New Year's Eve tomorrow, my wife got 654 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 2: a text from her cousin in Sydney, Australia, already saying 655 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 2: Happy New Year, rubbing it in that they're already in 656 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. We got a little left to go. 657 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 2: Here in twenty twenty five. 658 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 4: What's twenty twenty six like flying car? 659 00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 2: Apparently it's amazing. Yeah, it's it's really it. It's this 660 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 2: thing that it's the stuff that dreams are made of. Otho. 661 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 3: I think that's like the sixth straight New Year's Eve 662 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 3: that I've made that joke on Fox Sports ratio. 663 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 2: Make it seven, Let's do it again next year. A 664 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 2: year from now, I'll. 665 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 3: Be wondering what twenty twenty seven is like flying cars, 666 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 3: and who knows what else. 667 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 2: We're not sure next season if the Golden State Warriors 668 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 2: will be playing on Christmas Day. But if they do, 669 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 2: we know Draymond Green, if he's a member of the Warriors, 670 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 2: then we'll not be happy about it. Because this is 671 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 2: what Draymond Green had to say about playing on Christmas 672 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 2: speaking on The Draymond Green Show podcast. 673 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 7: Yes, it is an honor to be considered one of 674 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 7: the draws, the great draws that is in the NBA. 675 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 7: To play on a day where everybody's watching, it's incredible. 676 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 7: All of those things are great, but two things can 677 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 7: be true at once. Planning on Christmas Day also sucks. 678 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 7: And the reason it sucks is number one. What I 679 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 7: just said, it can affect your mood. Number two, We 680 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 7: are human beings and just like everyone else enjoy Christmas 681 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 7: Day with their families. That kind of get it's messed 682 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 7: up for us. 683 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 2: Any empathy sympathy for Draymond Green in saying, yes, it's 684 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 2: an honor, Yes it's it's a great tradition, but it 685 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 2: sucks to play on Christmas. 686 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 3: No, I think that, you know, it's the classic athlete 687 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 3: of I hate to be like that guy, but you know, 688 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 3: you get paid a lot of money. And by the way, 689 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 3: anything to do with sports, how many Christmas Days have 690 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 3: you worked, Dan Byer, because I know I was in 691 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 3: Christmas Day. 692 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 2: I didn't take off. Yes, but you've worked Christmas Day, 693 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 2: you know. 694 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 3: And I think it's it's a sports thing. Actually very randomly, 695 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 3: but Will Muschamp, who is actually now the Texas defensive coordinator, 696 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 3: but he was in a non coaching role this year 697 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 3: for Georgia, and I remember him tweeting out first Thanksgiving 698 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 3: with the family in thirty two years or something like that. 699 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 4: It's just what you do. You know. 700 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 3: There's the old saying to whom much is given, much 701 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 3: as expected. And by the way, I think there's actually 702 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 3: a lot of NBA players that would love the privilege 703 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 3: of playing on Christmas Day, and two, I just think 704 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 3: it's a privilege and it's part of it. And oh, 705 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 3: by the way, they're usually playing at nighttime and you 706 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:12,720 Speaker 3: got all day to spend. 707 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:16,760 Speaker 2: With the family. Jason Stewart is our executive producer. Jason, 708 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 2: there's a massive disconnect here. I thought the same one. 709 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 2: Lebron said something similar last week. It's like the disconnect 710 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,320 Speaker 2: is exactly what Aaron said. I mean to think about 711 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 2: what the size of these people's paychecks. Yes, you guys 712 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 2: talked about hosting on Christmas. How about the people that 713 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 2: are getting paid twenty twenty five dollars an hour to 714 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:39,359 Speaker 2: work on Christmas all around the country. I just think 715 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 2: there's such a disconnect here. But you can only say 716 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 2: this on your way out the door, right, I don't think. 717 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 2: I don't think a first or second your NBA player 718 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 2: could get away with this. Raymond Green will get away 719 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 2: with it. But it's just it's kind of like a 720 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 2: just a blatant disconnect. This reminded this is This may 721 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 2: sound really stupid, but it reminded me. When I was 722 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 2: in college, I worked at camps in the mall, and 723 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,479 Speaker 2: people wanted like a couple of days after Christmas off 724 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 2: because it was they were in high school or like no, 725 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 2: like in fact, like our hours are we're open until 726 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 2: like ten instead of like eight o'clock, we're open earlier. 727 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 2: It's Black Friday. This is when people like when shopping. 728 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 7: It. 729 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 2: It comes with the territory. Now, ten teams play on 730 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,879 Speaker 2: Christmas Day, so that means twenty teams don't. But also 731 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 2: if you're not playing on Christmas Day, it probably means 732 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 2: that you're not really good exactly, and so there's that 733 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 2: aspect of it. Listen, the Lakers always play. So if 734 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 2: you're signing with the Lakers, just know that you're not 735 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 2: going to be home for Christmas for the next however 736 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 2: long your contract is, and honestly with your if your 737 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 2: Draymond for the rise that the Warriors had, Yeah, it 738 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 2: does stink, but that's a part of the deal. And 739 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 2: I just don't think that anybody feels bad. It would 740 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 2: be great to be home, be great to be home 741 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 2: New Year's Eve, new Year's Day, whatever the case is. 742 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 2: But nobody feels bad when it's a part of the 743 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:00,279 Speaker 2: part of the gig. 744 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,399 Speaker 3: I'll also say if you're playing five o'clock. You got 745 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 3: all morning. No different than us hosting radio at noon 746 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 3: seven pm Eastern one. Right, Lions fans, Chris, I'll go 747 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 3: home and they celebrate Thanksgiving at night. They go to 748 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:09,919 Speaker 3: the game in the morning. 749 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 2: Right. 750 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 8: We did our Thanksgiving meal on Wednesday when I was 751 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 8: home this year. Yeah, so people were correct, Thanksgiving wasn't canceled. 752 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 8: Is the point that it is correct? He's erin Torres. 753 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,800 Speaker 8: I'm Dan Byer adjacent Stewart, Chris Burfet, Isaac Low, and 754 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 8: Kron Here the most controversial calls in sports. 755 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 2: Next