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Speaker 1: This is Dave Canalis OC for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers,

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Speaker 1: and this is the NFL Report.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the NFL Report. James Palmer. Rhett lewis with you.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna have to have Dave Canalis do another one

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Speaker 2: of those because the title is incorrect rhet. Rhett is

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Speaker 2: filling in for Steve Witch. We have a boatload of

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Speaker 2: faces rhet that we are gonna get to, including Dante Hall,

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Speaker 2: the human joy Stay, one of the most entertaining players

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Speaker 2: to watch Chiefs Legend. We also have Oma Owez Stacy

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Speaker 2: Dale's covering us for the NFC side of things. Baldi

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Speaker 2: will be with us as well for Baldi's favorite films.

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Speaker 2: I'm so glad you joined us on a show where

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Speaker 2: there's so little to talk about.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, that's why you had to bring me in,

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Speaker 3: right as the content specialist, as the conversationalist here. This

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Speaker 3: is That's why I'm here. Yeah, man, It's it's exciting,

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Speaker 3: and this is this is like my favorite time of

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Speaker 3: the year because we get to merge you know, my

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Speaker 3: favorite worlds, right which are you know? You get the

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Speaker 3: NFL post season, which is impossible to beat, but it's

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Speaker 3: also the beginning of draft season, right, So we're gonna

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Speaker 3: have all star games coming up next week. I'm getting

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Speaker 3: ready to head to Frisco, Texas for the ninety ninth

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Speaker 3: annual East West Shrine Bowls. Senior Bowl kicks off next week,

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Speaker 3: and I'm gonna have a little bit, a little bit

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Speaker 3: of a little bit of something for you on some

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Speaker 3: names to watch from those games later in the show.

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Speaker 2: I like it. I like it. I like it. Let's

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Speaker 2: get to these head coaching changes. I said it, Rhett.

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Speaker 2: Dave Canalis is no longer the offensive coordinator for the

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Speaker 2: Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He is the new head coach of

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Speaker 2: the Carolina Panthers. When this hire happened just a little

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Speaker 2: bit before we started this show, what was the first

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Speaker 2: thing that went through your mind? Right? Wow?

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Speaker 3: I mean it really was, because it feels like a

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Speaker 3: dramatic star rise and a star turn for Dave Canalis

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Speaker 3: jp one year as the offensive coordinator play caller in

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Speaker 3: Tampa and now is getting his shot as a head coach.

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Speaker 3: And the one thing that I that I know is

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Speaker 3: for certain. I mean, the Panthers have gone through this process, right,

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Speaker 3: they brought in a ton of different guys. We know

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Speaker 3: this is a demanding ownership group, right with David Tepper

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Speaker 3: just hired their new GM under Statemle Ran. Yep, Yep,

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Speaker 3: probably a little bit. I really like Dan Morgan as

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Speaker 3: a GM. He's been there as the assistant. He knows

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Speaker 3: what good programs are like and how to build them,

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Speaker 3: and he knows what it means to be.

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Speaker 4: In lockstep with a head coach.

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Speaker 3: He saw it with Brandon Bean and Sean McDermott up

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Speaker 3: so now coming here to Carolina, I feel like that's

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Speaker 3: what you're gonna get with Morgan, with Canalis and this

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Speaker 3: brain trust moving forward, trying to get Bryce Young and

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Speaker 3: this Carolina Panthers team.

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Speaker 2: Movement, and that's the ticket right there. What is your

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Speaker 2: plan for Bryce Young? You know, it was asked to

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Speaker 2: every single guy who interviewed there with David Tepper, and

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Speaker 2: I think what we've seen Dave Knalison, he's been on

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Speaker 2: this show, He's talked to us at length about his

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Speaker 2: offensive philosophies. I think that's gonna be what a lot

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Speaker 2: of us are watching and what he does with Bryce Young.

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Speaker 2: He has Baker Mayfield coming in and the one year.

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Speaker 2: not only also before that Gino Smith and before that

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Speaker 2: I think is so impressive is he said, really, everything

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Speaker 2: we do is molded to our quarterback. His ability to

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Speaker 2: I think is one of his best traits. That he

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Speaker 2: continues to find concepts that work and then builds the

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Speaker 2: for that quarterback are thrown out, as well as changing

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Speaker 2: other aspects around the quarterback. Look the shuffling he did

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Speaker 2: on that offensive line in Tampa. I want you here.

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Speaker 2: You used to play here, now you're over here, and

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Speaker 2: he changed it all to fit their skill sets, their

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Speaker 2: ability to adapt and change like nobody's business. All right,

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Speaker 2: let's move on to another head coach, Ratt that is

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Speaker 2: not getting his start. He is an old hat at

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Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh going to the Chargers. He is back in

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Speaker 2: the NFL, going to the place where you know, he

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Speaker 3: Think you're gonna see offense and team philosophy operated operated

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Speaker 4: I think this is going to be a gritty, er,

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's that has been the hallmark of Jim

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Speaker 3: famously when he was at Stanford, got like all the

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Speaker 4: You know, we've got blue collars.

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Speaker 3: We might wear red jerseys, but we're making sure the

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Speaker 2: That we play.

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Speaker 3: And the interesting thing here is what's he gonna do?

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Speaker 3: What does this look like for Justin Herbert. Obviously, Jim

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Speaker 3: Harbaugh has coached in sane mainly talented quarterbacks before. See

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Speaker 3: the air, everyone knew that Andrew Luck was an immense talent, right,

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Speaker 4: Brought that out in him.

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Speaker 3: So how he tailors this offense and his offensive staff

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Speaker 3: to accentuate Justin Herbert's skill set is going to be

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Speaker 3: really intriguing. I think there's gonna be an emphasis put

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Speaker 3: I think that this is this at number five overall

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Speaker 3: think this squarely puts brock Bowers the top tight end

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Speaker 2: That's rich, I get it.

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Speaker 3: But this is a tough, gritty dude. Even though he's

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Speaker 3: Jim Harbaugh did jp with the tight ends at Michigan

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Speaker 3: the Senior Bowl. They were dominant Luke Schoonmaker last year.

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Speaker 4: As you get your.

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Speaker 2: Hands dirty going after grapes in the soil up there,

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Speaker 2: and now it's fine, you get gritty and listen, tight

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Speaker 2: ends have flourished, especially rookies this past season. We've always

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Speaker 2: tight end's always a big part of what he does.

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Speaker 2: Real quickly, I'll say, I think it's an identity, right.

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Speaker 2: I think that has been lacking since this team moved

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Speaker 2: Now they bring in a head coach who was essentially,

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Speaker 2: And they get somebody that is going to make sure

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Speaker 2: and look at the Ravens because this is a big

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Speaker 4: Yeah, one thing that really sticks out to me is

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Speaker 3: to get Mark Andrews in the football. Well, he's been

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Speaker 3: again fully participatingly like it just this week there, James,

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Speaker 3: always knew that this is who Isaiah likely was. We

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Speaker 4: Think he does a great job getting those guys together.

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Speaker 4: And I'm just hoping that they can get.

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Speaker 3: A dance club scene going in that locker room afterwards,

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Speaker 3: so we can see an encore from George Gatzi.

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Speaker 4: We need more of it, right, where's Georgie?

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Speaker 2: Let's fight there?

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Speaker 3: A moment build right there.

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Speaker 2: Gatzi just slow playing it just now and there he

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Speaker 2: it's going to be interesting to see what they change

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Speaker 2: offensively philosophy wise, if they want to get both these

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Speaker 2: to go on the defensive side of the ball and

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Speaker 2: go with me. Maybe the only player in this game

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Speaker 2: that is a member of MENSA that is all Pro

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Speaker 2: This is a game full of versatile players that have

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Speaker 2: high football IQs. He might be at the top of

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Speaker 2: gonna have the assignment a lot in this game. They're

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Speaker 2: gonna throw different things at Travis Kelcey, but he's gonna

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Speaker 2: have the assignment quite a bit. And what he does

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Speaker 2: just one of the things that he does to impact

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Speaker 2: this game. He can rush the quarterback like an hedge rusher.

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Speaker 2: He can play the safety spot, he can cover deep,

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Speaker 2: five different positions for this defense. One of the most

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Speaker 2: versatile talented players in the NFL, and he missed two

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Speaker 2: games this year. I know it's a small sample size,

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Speaker 5: He's gonna be the MVP for a reason. I mean,

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Speaker 5: he goes out there, he leads his team, he scores,

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Speaker 5: And that's what the great greats do. And uh, like

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Speaker 5: So it's gonna take a full team effort if we

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Speaker 6: He's a great quarterback, definitely, hall of famer is not

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Speaker 6: But it's just I believe it's just to to two

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Speaker 7: That's that's just what I see.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the NFL Report. James Palmer, Rhett Lewis

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Speaker 2: with you, And if you're gonna have a heavyweight fight,

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Speaker 2: I need more trash talk. Maybe Don day Haul the

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Speaker 2: Chiefs great can bring some of that trash talk into this. Listen.

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Speaker 2: Too many compliments on there. I'm not gonna lie too

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Speaker 2: many compliments between those two great players as we're heading

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Speaker 2: and I have to get this out of the way

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Speaker 2: first before we continue. What is your favorite nickname for you,

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Speaker 2: because you have a lot of them.

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Speaker 8: My favorite is the Humane and the gotta be.

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Speaker 7: It's just a great name, right.

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Speaker 8: And before I picked up the golf, I was an

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Speaker 7: So at the time that Mitch Holtess.

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Speaker 9: I agree.

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Speaker 4: I think I think that's I mean it was.

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Speaker 3: It was terrific because it was organic too, and uh,

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Speaker 3: a familiar spot for him. But like, I go back

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Speaker 7: They called that the no punt game.

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Speaker 3: That's right, see, and I kind of believe that that

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Speaker 4: The way these two defense I disagree.

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Speaker 8: And this particular, I understand why you're going that because

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Speaker 4: Had to post it.

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Speaker 3: So but but I wanted to ask you that too

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Speaker 3: feels like to make those big plays in those big moments,

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Speaker 9: At that stage.

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Speaker 8: I'm gonna be honest with you, I was, even though

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Speaker 7: We just had to win two games. That era hit.

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Speaker 8: We started a season ten to zero, so it was

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Speaker 8: very disappointing to not only lose the game, but lose

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Speaker 8: the game and the fashion that we lost it. Peyton

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Speaker 8: like that just cannot happen. Even though I had a

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Speaker 2: Dottie, we know you're still a Chiefs fan. We saw

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Speaker 7: Every single Sunday? That crosses mind?

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Speaker 8: And I'll never forget the first time I went on

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Speaker 8: And I remember from this watching them play develop like

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Speaker 8: I had never seen that concept before, and at that moment,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and Dante, you know, in the post Tyreek

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Speaker 8: I've been impressed by them basically suppressing their ego, realizing

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Speaker 7: I just it just showed me that these guys.

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Speaker 2: And the staff in terms of developing players dot you

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I remember early on, as far as back as

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Dante, I think you know, in terms of

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Speaker 8: So it's like when you first come into the league,

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Speaker 9: But don't worry.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at different players in this game, Dante, and

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Speaker 7: You talk about a guy like Lamar.

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Speaker 8: Who's six two sixty three, able to move like a

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Speaker 8: little guy, and then you take Patrick Mahomes who's a

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Speaker 8: little more girthier, not as fast, but he's very savvy

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Speaker 8: with his no looks, all fakes, little things like that.

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Speaker 7: Right, I look at him like a steph Curry.

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Speaker 8: Steph Curry is not Alan Orison Quick, but he's very

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Speaker 8: savvy with his mechanics as far as movement, movement and

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Speaker 8: things like that.

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Speaker 7: So it's more ways to skin a cat, you.

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Speaker 2: Know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Right, That's right, and uh man, nobody's done it as

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Speaker 3: as good as you've done it. I mean like one

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Speaker 3: of the best, very best in the business in terms

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Speaker 3: of the return game and the impact you can have

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Speaker 3: on a game making big plays. And certainly hope we

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Speaker 3: see some of those in this gave it to me

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Speaker 3: the Chiefs and Ravens on Sunday, Dante, it has been

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Speaker 3: a blast, man. Thanks so much for being a part

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Speaker 3: of the support today.

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Speaker 2: Man, Really it should have been the whole show. Rep.

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Speaker 2: That's it.

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Speaker 4: We could have just been done.

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Speaker 9: That's great.

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Speaker 8: I love talking what you guys do, so I'll come

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Speaker 8: back on anytime appreciating that.

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Speaker 9: Man.

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Speaker 3: Love hold me that with us here on the NFL Report.

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Speaker 3: Still to come on this episode of the NFL Report.

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Speaker 3: You love what the messaging that Dan Campbell brings to

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Speaker 3: the Lions. But what's the tangible effect of it?

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Speaker 4: Stacy Dalees is.

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Speaker 3: Going to tell us, and how do the forty nine

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Speaker 3: ers deal with that's omaruiz part.

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Speaker 8: When we come back.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to the NFL Report podcast. But you can

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Speaker 1: watch me, Steve Weich and my co host James Palmer

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Speaker 10: Just the Bay area and the faithful in general, we

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Speaker 10: want this game bad, you know, and they've obviously been hoping,

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Speaker 10: you know, you know, to have another championship come in

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Speaker 10: this organization. Last couple of times we've been in the

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Speaker 10: Super Bowl, we've fallen short. So now we get a

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Speaker 10: shot at it again. So to play at home an

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Speaker 10: NFC championship, it's gonna be It's gonna be sweet.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what a difference to your makes right.

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Speaker 3: Brock perty back in the NFC Championship game as he

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Speaker 3: gets set to have his forty nine ers host the

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Speaker 3: Detroit Lions. Welcoming you back to NFL Report here. Brett

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Speaker 3: lewis at for Steve, which today of course James Palmer

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Speaker 3: with us as well, and we get to say hello

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Speaker 3: to our friend Stacy Dale's and Omar Ruiz here. Stacy's

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Speaker 3: been covering the Lions for US this week, and Omar

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Speaker 3: is in Santa Clara right now, which is where we

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Speaker 3: will play this championship game in the NFC on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: Stacy hearing for brock perty is a good because it

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Speaker 3: sure does sound like that the good folks in the

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Speaker 3: Detroit Lions defense slash secondary not real interested in hearing

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Speaker 3: from him or talking about him this week?

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Speaker 4: Is that accurate?

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Speaker 11: Rett? If they're talking anything about him, it's a whole

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Speaker 11: lot of smack. I mean, I was in the locker

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Speaker 11: room for Championship Wednesday and tried to go up and

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Speaker 11: get a little juice out of CJ. Gardner Johnson and

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Speaker 11: I just we couldn't. He didn't want anything to do

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Speaker 11: with rock party talk or really anything to do with

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Speaker 11: US media members.

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Speaker 12: That's how salty this secondary is.

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Speaker 11: I think it's emblematic of kind of the tone and

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Speaker 11: tenor of that defense as they've gotten better and better better.

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Speaker 11: Like Dan Campbell told me on Wednesday, our confidence is

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Speaker 11: going up. It has improved. There's an uptick, especially over

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Speaker 11: these last six weeks. And when I asked Kirby Joseph,

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Speaker 11: a safety for this group, this secondary. What's the most

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Speaker 11: improved thing about your defense? He said to me, fear

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Speaker 11: And I said, well, what does that mean? And he said,

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Speaker 11: the fear we're putting basically in opposing offenses, given how

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Speaker 11: hard we play and how physical we play, and that's

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Speaker 11: what they're going to take to see rock Perty Sunday.

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Speaker 13: Oh, you know, they're bringing that physical brand of football.

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Speaker 13: We all remember Chauncey Gardner Johnson and Deebo Samuel having

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Speaker 13: that social media back and forth. Speaking of Deebo Samuel

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Speaker 13: limited in practice today, certainly trending in the right direction.

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Speaker 13: When we were out there yesterday in the limited role

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Speaker 13: that he had officially listed as a non participant, but

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Speaker 13: while they were stretching, he was running up and down

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Speaker 13: the practice field carrying the football in his hand, and

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Speaker 13: it almost seemed like he was really exaggerating his arm

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Speaker 13: pumps to really test the mobility of that shoulder, and

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Speaker 13: it didn't look like he had any discomfort. So when

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Speaker 13: you go from DMP Wednesday to limited Thursday, and it

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Speaker 13: looks like he can run and carry the football full speed,

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Speaker 13: if nothing else, he looks like he could be a

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Speaker 13: decoy on Sunday and be able to play. Obviously, time

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Speaker 13: will tell the rest of the week. The forty nine

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Speaker 13: have a more physical practice on Thursday, a little more intensity,

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Speaker 13: and then of course there's Friday to watch, so you know,

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Speaker 13: we'll continue to monitor the debo situation. But what an

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Speaker 13: impact he has when he is in the lineup, yl Mar.

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Speaker 2: We know how different of a squad this is when

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Speaker 2: Deebo's not there, the physicality go on. I love how

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Speaker 2: they use a variety of guys though, right to go

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Speaker 2: and fill in for him after he went down in

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Speaker 2: that divisional round. Just kind of maybe three different players

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Speaker 2: really playing different spots that Deebo does different things on

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Speaker 2: the field. Let's go with a guy that's throwing the

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Speaker 2: football to him, Omar And we heard from him at

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Speaker 2: the start of this segment. And Brock Purdy. What's the

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Speaker 2: vibe right now with Brock Purty and kind of I

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Speaker 2: don't know if the term is getting back on track.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if there is confidence that is high.

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Speaker 2: Where is the vibe with Brock Purdy because he did

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Speaker 2: lead him down the field to win that game last week.

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Speaker 13: Well, they say they're confident in Brock purity, and I

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Speaker 13: believe that to be the case. There's so much confidence

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Speaker 13: heading into the postseason behind Brock and his MVP caliber

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Speaker 13: type of regular season and just looking to build on that.

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Speaker 13: And you can give a variety of reasons why he

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Speaker 13: might have been off against the Green Bay Packers on Saturday.

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Speaker 13: You can blame the wet balls and the rainy conditions

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Speaker 13: that happen. You can credit the Packers defense for putting

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Speaker 13: together a game plan that made him uncomfortable. And he

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Speaker 13: said they were taking away a lot of the deep

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Speaker 13: shots early and maybe he was trying to force some

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Speaker 13: of them. We saw the Darnell Savage missed interception, he said,

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Speaker 13: affect him in a way that prevented him from, you know,

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Speaker 13: being maybe as aggressive and being more tentative in that

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Speaker 13: game as it unfolded. But then they all credit Brought

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Speaker 13: Purdy for getting back on track himself and adjusting mid

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Speaker 13: game and being able to lead that game winning touchdown

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Speaker 13: drive with six completions seven attempts. And then I asked

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Speaker 13: Shanahan today, was that an encouraging sign that he was

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Speaker 13: able to self correct or do you have to continue

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Speaker 13: on that coaching point to take the checkdowns when they're

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Speaker 13: in there. He says, there's no exact science to it.

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Speaker 13: You just have to play the position. Just have to

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Speaker 13: play football. It's not just Okay, they're covering deep, now

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Speaker 13: you have to check down, or they're covering short, now you.

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Speaker 2: Have to go deep.

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Speaker 9: You just have to make those decisions.

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Speaker 13: And he said brock Purty has been the best quarterback

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Speaker 13: that he's been around in making those decisions and executing

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Speaker 13: that part of the offense. So they look to get

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Speaker 13: that version of brock Pritty again.

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Speaker 11: On Sunday, you know, Omar I mentioned that the secondary

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Speaker 11: doesn't really want to talk about brock Purty, but there

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Speaker 11: are a couple guys that did give me some stuff

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Speaker 11: on him. And I was having a conversation at the

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Speaker 11: Lion's facility and we were talking about this whole mister

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Speaker 11: irrelevant term, Like the only word they're using to describe

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Speaker 11: brock Purdy in Detroit as they prepare for him is

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Speaker 11: mister relevant. That's how much respect. So they're not buying

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Speaker 11: into all these narratives. When I talked to Alex Anzeloni,

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Speaker 11: who's just such a superstar linebacker, and I heard Baldy

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Speaker 11: break down this defense and he did it as.

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Speaker 12: He always does so well. But that guy's everywhere.

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Speaker 11: And he said, you know, basically, to me, we're not

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Speaker 11: buying into the narrative that this guy can't make big throws.

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Speaker 11: He gets the ball in space. We know what he

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Speaker 11: does well. He gets the ball in space. He's extremely efficient,

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Speaker 11: and those receivers are so good, perhaps best in the NFL,

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Speaker 11: with those yaks, those yards after catch and when I

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Speaker 11: had Kittle as we watch him here a few weeks

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Speaker 11: ago against the Eagles, like he said, our bread and

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Speaker 11: butter is yaks. I mean, that's where we make we bank,

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Speaker 11: we make a fortune on those. And so tackling in

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Speaker 11: open space, Angeloni said, is obviously going to be critical.

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Speaker 11: But they have so much respect for brock Party and

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Speaker 11: think that you know, all this conversation that's happening out there,

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Speaker 11: that he can make the big throws, and look what

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Speaker 11: happened against Green Bay.

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Speaker 12: They A'm buying into it.

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Speaker 11: He could throw those daggers, as Dan Campbell talked about

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Speaker 11: this week, and they're going in there.

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Speaker 12: Though, hungry.

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Speaker 11: They want to hit him, they want to break his rhythm,

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Speaker 11: do it early and often in this game, to throw

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Speaker 11: off some of that timing with those receivers.

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Speaker 3: You know, Stacy, I feel like brock Party and the

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Speaker 3: type of player in person he is and the personality

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Speaker 3: that he has would fit in in Detroit right with

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Speaker 3: with their mentality. But they are of course very happy

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Speaker 3: with Jared Goff, who is, to quote Dan Campbell, good

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Speaker 3: enough for Detroit. But just talking again about the the

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Speaker 3: personality of this team, the grit, right, we talk about

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Speaker 3: it a lot, and you know we've seen, you know,

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Speaker 3: a lot of Dan Campbell's pitches to this team right

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Speaker 3: about his his vision and his plan and all this,

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Speaker 3: and it does feel like there's something tangible about those words,

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Speaker 3: which you know, by definition are very intangible. Like it

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Speaker 3: feels like they are turning that plan and that vision

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Speaker 3: into something that is real and that you can see

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Speaker 3: transpire out there.

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Speaker 2: On the field.

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Speaker 4: Have you been able to put your finger on that?

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 12: It is real.

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Speaker 11: It's genuine too, Like the conversations I have, like with

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Speaker 11: Allen McNeil, and if you guys haven't had a conversation

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Speaker 11: with Alee McNeil. This is a superstar interior defensive lineman.

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Speaker 11: He will give you sound bites to use for an

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Speaker 11: entire Sunday football Sunday. He's that awesome. He said, you

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Speaker 11: know there's a clip circulating right now. I think it's

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Speaker 11: hard Knocks. He said, with Dan Campbell at training camp.

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Speaker 11: They just completed the padded practice and Dan Campbell is

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Speaker 11: really imploring his men that they need to trust in him.

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Speaker 12: And Alien told me that we bought in, right.

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Speaker 11: They bought in last year to Dan Campbell and even

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Speaker 11: when he took over with the kneecap stuff. But when

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Speaker 11: he spoke to us that day after a brutal padded

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Speaker 11: practice and said to us, trust me, trust the process.

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Speaker 11: Alien was like, we were completely bought in like this guy.

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Speaker 11: He said, when Dan Campbell talks to you, you listen

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Speaker 11: and you believe it, and they all embody it. I

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Speaker 11: mean it's real, but it's just so interesting. Like when

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Speaker 11: you think about Kyle Shanahan and Dan Campbell and what

657
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Speaker 11: they've done right Omar with their teams respectively. Kyle Shanahan,

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Speaker 11: you just believe in him, and that's when you get

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Speaker 11: to this stage. You have to have that in leadership,

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Speaker 11: and I think it shows up, you know, moments like.

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Speaker 13: This, Yeah, some of their qualities mirroring each other, and

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Speaker 13: that they had the big breakout year in year three

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Speaker 13: after laying a foundation the first couple of years. But

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Speaker 13: you talk about that sense of physicality, the aggressiveness that

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Speaker 13: Dan Campbell coaches with the forty nine ers, sense that

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Speaker 13: Diamidor Lenore one of the more physical corners that the forty.

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Speaker 2: Nine ers have.

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Speaker 13: He told me yesterday he likes to be one of

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Speaker 13: those tone setters. If you remember, he's the one that

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Speaker 13: pushed Jordan Love a clean play, a legal play so

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Speaker 13: far out of bounds. Then the very next play he

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Speaker 13: broke up a big pass with a physical hit. He

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Speaker 13: said he knows that because of how Campbell is a

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Speaker 13: former player, somebody who speaks as aggressively as he does,

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Speaker 13: the Lions will come in here with that physical mindset

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Speaker 13: because he knows if people are going to compete against

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Speaker 13: the forty nine ers, they have to match that physicality.

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Speaker 13: And then Brandon Ayuk telling me yesterday that this is

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Speaker 13: the most aggressive defense that they'll have faced all season long.

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Speaker 13: Now there's a lot of feast or famine attached to that.

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Speaker 2: They'll give up.

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Speaker 13: Big plays, but they'll make big plays as well, and

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Speaker 13: it's a matter of trying to get more big plays

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Speaker 13: for the forty nine ers end than the Detroit defense

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Speaker 13: in that matchup on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Omar Stacey, you guys have your hands full, considering we

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Speaker 2: had this entire conversation, this lengthy segment about this game,

688
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Speaker 2: and we barely barely mention the name Jared Goff in

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Speaker 2: this entire conversation. That's how many storylines we havert. You

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Speaker 2: said it very abruptly, and then you went on to

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Speaker 2: Dan Campbell and you went on to the messages out there.

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Speaker 2: But that's how many storylines we have in this game,

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Speaker 2: and that's everything we're looking at. That encapsulates everything Stacy

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Speaker 2: and Omar have to cover for this massive game. But

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Speaker 2: Jared Goff, in the way he's playing like one of

696
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Speaker 2: the best quarterbacks in all of football the second half

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Speaker 2: of the year, I'll give him his credit because he

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Speaker 2: is not on the show right now, is filling in

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Speaker 2: for Steve Wich. Steve said halfway point, I believe Jared

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Speaker 2: Golf is going to be in the MVP conversation at

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Speaker 2: the end of the year, and you know what, he

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Speaker 2: deserved to be the way he was playing down the stretch.

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Speaker 2: You guys, enjoy a beautiful one together in Santa Clara

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Speaker 2: on Sunday. We have to talk to you after it.

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Speaker 2: Stacey Omar appreciate it. Coming up, Baldy's gonna break down

706
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Speaker 2: this man and his gorgeous eyes. What No, it's what

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Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes does with his eyes. It's what Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 2: does with his feet that Baldy wants to break down.

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Speaker 2: Next on the NFL Reports, Welcome back to the NFL Report.

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Speaker 2: James Palmer, Rhett lewis with you. I have my popcorn

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Speaker 2: and that means it's Baldy's favorite films. Brian Baldinger joins us. Baldy,

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Speaker 2: let's cut right to it, because we got ten minutes

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Speaker 2: to break down the two biggest games of the season,

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Speaker 2: and let's start with the number one seed in the AFC,

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Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson. We saw what Demiico Ryans tried to do,

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Speaker 2: which was essentially almost blitz him every single down to

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Speaker 2: do whatever he tried to do in the second half

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Speaker 2: to get after him. Lamar made some nice adjustments specifically

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Speaker 2: in that second half. How do you defend Lamar? What

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Speaker 2: are we going to see from Spees Pagnolo in his group?

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Speaker 14: Well, we'll see something different for sure, But just to

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Speaker 14: go back to Houston in that game because he was

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Speaker 14: flawless in the second half. But you know the big

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Speaker 14: thing was they had an answer for the blitz James.

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Speaker 14: They knew where to go with it. He knew where

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Speaker 14: his hot reads was. One time he backed up and

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Speaker 14: he hit Zay Flowers for a first down. I mean

728
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Speaker 14: that throw right there against Christian Harris, blitzing right up

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Speaker 14: the middle at him. You know he found the hot

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Speaker 14: red and then look right here if you don't account

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Speaker 14: for him, like this is a design quarterback draw right there,

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Speaker 14: they just ran, you know, a route you run quarterback

733
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Speaker 14: keeper until it's not a keeper anymore, and then you

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Speaker 14: flip it to likely for the touchdown. I mean a

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Speaker 14: lot of these are deceptives. There comes a blitz Jalen

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Speaker 14: Petrie right there. You know they hit Jay Flowers right there,

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Speaker 14: right behind it. You know, every time they had an answer,

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Speaker 14: you know they he ran the quarterback keeper right there

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Speaker 14: on fourth and one. Right here is a touchdown run

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Speaker 14: get behind. Stanley had an answer for everything that he did.

741
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Speaker 14: Now Bade will be a little bit different. You'll disguise

742
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Speaker 14: the blitzers. I think better. I think he'll blitz more

743
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Speaker 14: off the edge than what we saw Houston do, so

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Speaker 14: it'll be different. But at the same time, I got

745
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Speaker 14: to see if they can knock the Lamar off his

746
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Speaker 14: stride because Houston couldn't do it, especially in that second half.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, on the flip side, while we're on the subject

748
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Speaker 3: of answers, finding answers against Patrick Mahomes has been very

749
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Speaker 3: difficult over the course of the last five plus years,

750
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Speaker 3: Brian Baldinger for opposing defenses trying to deal with number

751
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Speaker 3: fifteen for the Kansas City Chiefs, and of course that'll

752
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Speaker 3: be the case for Mike McDonald and this Ravens defense

753
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Speaker 3: this week. But the one thing that like they can't

754
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Speaker 3: really do a whole lot about is stopping Patrick Mahomes

755
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Speaker 3: from identifying where he wants to go with the ball

756
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Speaker 3: as quickly as he does. It's like it doesn't matter

757
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Speaker 3: what you're trying to do. He knows where he wants

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Speaker 3: to go and how he wants to get it there.

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Speaker 14: Balding, You're right, Rett, and you know, as a former quarterback,

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Speaker 14: I think you can appreciate this well.

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Speaker 9: Think that just keeps showing up.

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Speaker 14: It was not just last weekgnainst Buffalo, but when he

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Speaker 14: does either go play action turns back to the defense

764
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Speaker 14: or the pocket collapses, and he's got a pull a

765
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Speaker 14: little houdiniak and like right here, like his ability to

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Speaker 14: go find receive rice on his throat and reset his

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Speaker 14: eyes and then make a stick throw as soon as

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Speaker 14: he finds them like that shows up all the time.

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Speaker 9: And so like this throw.

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Speaker 14: I mean, they that's seven cut right there, rhet They

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Speaker 14: must run that play that in pregame warm up fifteen times.

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Speaker 14: I mean, anybody that's watched kame and city warm up,

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Speaker 14: they run that same seven cut here it is right here.

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Speaker 14: They run that seven cut over and over again. They

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Speaker 14: all line up. I mean, so it's it's just what

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Speaker 14: they practice.

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Speaker 9: Like all the time. And then okay, but that's how

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Speaker 9: you have to throw.

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Speaker 14: You have to throw that kind of timing into a

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Speaker 14: spot against the defense that basically plays matchup zone and

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Speaker 14: takes those away.

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Speaker 2: Baldy. When we jump over to the other game and

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Speaker 2: we look at what Ben Johnson has been doing with

784
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Speaker 2: I mean, I think any offensive coordinator would like that

785
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Speaker 2: group of skill guys, specifically when they're lining up surrounding

786
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Speaker 2: an offensive line like they have in Detroit. But the

787
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Speaker 2: way he's dialing it up and the concepts that he's using.

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Speaker 2: What has stood out to you most about the way

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Speaker 2: he's been able to utilize these pieces that we might

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Speaker 2: see on Sunday in Santa Clara.

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Speaker 14: Well, you know he's got his play chart there, But

792
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Speaker 14: the thing that jumps out is how he utilizes certain

793
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Speaker 14: plays informations based on down distance.

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Speaker 9: Where you're out in the field.

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Speaker 14: If the ball is on the left hash, maybe we'll

796
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Speaker 14: put a Moan Ross eight brown on the right hash

797
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Speaker 14: and let him work a whole bunch of the field.

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Speaker 14: So wherever the ball is placed, it sort of starts

799
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Speaker 14: his play call. And how they get matchups for Sam Laporta,

800
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Speaker 14: where they might just do a simple short motion from

801
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Speaker 14: the outside. You get him on the corner who's nine

802
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 14: yards off, and make it an easier throw for Jared Goff.

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Speaker 14: What they've done with Brock right in the deceptive way,

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Speaker 14: what they did to him last week. In addition, how

805
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Speaker 14: they run the ball. Montgomery always starts it. Jamir Gibbs

806
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 14: is always gonna come in second. And this guy right

807
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Speaker 14: here I call the motown comment Jamison Williams.

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Speaker 9: You have to account for a speed.

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Speaker 14: You have to just account for the speed because he's

810
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Speaker 14: gonna take the top off your defense and he's gonna

811
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Speaker 14: make your safeties respect his speed. They don't throw them

812
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Speaker 14: a lot, but it opens up a lot of things

813
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Speaker 14: for Aman Ross Saint Brown underneath, uh throughout the season,

814
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Speaker 14: and to you know, to Josh Reynolds as well.

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Speaker 3: You know what's even more scary to me is considering

816
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Speaker 3: this Lions team and like their run is far from

817
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Speaker 3: over and they wanted to continue into Las Vegas, you know,

818
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Speaker 3: following this week. But as these head coaching gigs are

819
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 3: starting to fill up a little bit, we talked about

820
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Speaker 3: two of them at the top, Baldy Harbought of the

821
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Speaker 3: Chargers and Dave Canalis to the Panthers. If Dan Campbell

822
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Speaker 3: gets Ben Johnson and Aaron Glenn both back next year,

823
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Speaker 3: my goodness, like this, I mean, look, I hope for

824
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Speaker 3: both their sakes that they get you know, all the

825
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Speaker 3: head coaching looks that they want and deserve, But my goodness,

826
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Speaker 3: that would be incredible for Detroit. Speaking of Aaron Glenn,

827
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Speaker 3: you know, his tenure as the DC has not been

828
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Speaker 3: without turbulence. Right, They've gone through some issues and worked

829
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Speaker 3: their way through it, and I think something to be

830
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Speaker 3: said for the patients there that Dan Campbell has showed

831
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Speaker 3: and trying to get that thing right. But I think

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Speaker 3: what's most valuable about what they do this year and

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Speaker 3: maybe even in this matchup is the different ways that

834
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Speaker 3: they can account for how offenses want to attack them.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 14: I mean there's plays last week where they had four

837
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Speaker 14: safeties on the field. You know, they had Chartsy Garterer

838
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Speaker 14: who got Johnson and ifiat to Mela fan who out there.

839
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Speaker 14: You know, in addition to Kirby Joseph. You know they'll

840
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Speaker 14: play for safeties and down in distances, they will match

841
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Speaker 14: your formations up with various personnel groupings. They blitz a

842
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 14: great deal with if heat to Mela Fauanuho coming off

843
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Speaker 14: the edge, He's an excellent blitzer. Kirby Josh with that

844
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Speaker 14: interception right there. Like their ability to mix a match

845
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Speaker 14: with you, in addition to Alex Angelona who plays every

846
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Speaker 14: single play, and then the way that they'll do things

847
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Speaker 14: at the front. Last week on third and longs they

848
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Speaker 14: played a three man front, they played four safeties, they

849
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Speaker 14: played eight defensive backs. So they will max mix a

850
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Speaker 14: match with you depending on game situation, down distance, parts

851
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Speaker 14: of the field that you're in and so all those things.

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Speaker 14: I think Aaron can kind of play chess with the

853
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Speaker 14: best of them right now because they have such flexibility

854
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Speaker 14: with their personnel groupings.

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Speaker 2: Body, I want to throw this one at you. This

856
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Speaker 2: is kind of a broader look at the four teams

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Speaker 2: that are left, and I look at the linebacker position

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Speaker 2: with the four teams that are left, and you look

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Speaker 2: at you know, Rokwan Smith and the group that they

860
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Speaker 2: have there. You look in Kansas City right now, Steve

861
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Speaker 2: Spanola is putting Drew Trankwell and Nick Bolton, two mic

862
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Speaker 2: linebackers on the field at the same time, and kind

863
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Speaker 2: of running things in a different manner there. We know

864
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Speaker 2: the guys that line up in Santa Clara and then

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Speaker 2: obviously the way you mentioned Angeloni and then the other

866
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Speaker 2: guys to play there in Detroit. What do you think

867
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Speaker 2: about that position specifically in what way we see these

868
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Speaker 2: four teams are utilizing that spot that are left to playing.

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Speaker 14: Well if I was some of the teams on the

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Speaker 14: outside looking in, like let's just say the Cowboys or

871
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Speaker 14: the Eagles, where they don't seem to put a great

872
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Speaker 14: deal of emphasis on the linebacker position. Derek Barnes closed

873
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 14: the game out last week in an interception for Detroit.

874
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 14: Rokwan Smith got traded for from Chicago and the day

875
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Speaker 14: that he got to Baltimore is the day he took

876
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Speaker 14: over the leadership ability at that position and the defense

877
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Speaker 14: changed the day that Rokwan got there. I mean, Fred

878
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Speaker 14: Warner gets drafted in the third round out of BYU

879
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 14: and literally the day he got there, he put the

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Speaker 14: green dye on his helmet and he started every game since.

881
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Speaker 9: Like, there's something about all.

882
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Speaker 14: I mean, you see Drake Greenlong get two interceptions last week.

883
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 14: I mean, these guys never come off the field. They

884
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Speaker 14: play every every situation, goal line, third and thirty.

885
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 9: They're on the field. They never come off the field.

886
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 14: So if I'm on the outside looking in and I'm thinking, well,

887
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 14: you can find linebackers anywhere, or we can just fill

888
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 14: that position with big safeties, you can't. You can't play

889
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,240
Speaker 14: in the Final four right now without having great players

890
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 14: at those positions. And sometimes you've got to pay those

891
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:20,879
Speaker 14: great players like Rokwan Smith. But Rokwan's made Patrick Queen better.

892
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Speaker 14: I've talked to Fred Warner earlier this year, guys, and

893
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 14: he was saying, you know, Baldy, this is my fifth

894
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 14: year of lining up with dra Greenlaw. Like, those two

895
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 14: guys know each other as well as you can possibly

896
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 14: know one another on the field. Like, that's five years

897
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Speaker 14: of football with a lot of championship level games between

898
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Speaker 14: those two guys who never come off the field for

899
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Speaker 14: San Francisco.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean look at it that that's one of

901
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Speaker 3: the common threads the other offensive lineman and the emphasis

902
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Speaker 3: and the valuable resources that have been spent by these

903
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 3: four teams to fortify that group up front. I think

904
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Speaker 3: is really important to look at both in the draft

905
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Speaker 3: and free agency, different ways to go about it. But

906
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Speaker 3: that's that's great context, great analysis for us as always,

907
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Speaker 3: Baldy Villa South, it's beautiful. Hope you get a little

908
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 3: time in the ocean before Championship Sunday, and we will

909
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Speaker 3: check back with you do and here on the NFL

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Speaker 3: Report when I come. When we come back, I'm gonna

911
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Speaker 3: give you guys some names to know from the East

912
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Speaker 3: West Shrine Bowl, which kicks off on Thursday, and some

913
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Speaker 3: intriguing facts I love about some of those names to know.

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Speaker 9: Get your popcorn ready.

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Speaker 2: Hey, it's James Palmer and you're listening to the NFL Report.

916
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Speaker 2: Podcast along with myself and Steve Weish. But remember, if

917
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 2: you want to see our beautiful faces, this is a

918
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Speaker 2: show at seven fifteen Monday and Thursday. That's seven fifteen

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Speaker 2: pm Eastern, and we are on the NFL app as

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Speaker 2: well as fast streaming platforms. That's two B, that's Roku,

921
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Speaker 2: that's Pluto, that's Peacock, all of those platforms as well

922
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Speaker 2: as the NFL dot Com Slash NFL channel. Find us

923
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Speaker 2: all of those spots.

924
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Speaker 14: So why am I holding an East West Shrine Bowl eighty.

925
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 2: Nine, Steve Smith Jersey is because, sir, what does that say?

926
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Speaker 2: Right there? You are going into the East West Okay,

927
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Speaker 2: Shrimee Bowl Hall of Fame before the game again February first,

928
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Speaker 2: eight pm on NFL Network.

929
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Speaker 4: Congratulations to you, my.

930
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Speaker 2: Friend Mike Carafollow, Steve Smith to friends of the NFL

931
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Speaker 2: report right there and hopefully Steve Jersey says Steve Smith Senior.

932
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Speaker 2: There and look at this Thursday, eight pm East West

933
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Speaker 2: Shrine Bowl and Rhett, you will be hosting, no not hosting,

934
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Speaker 2: calling that game on NFL Network. So what we want

935
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Speaker 2: to do is I told you I was going to

936
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Speaker 2: keep my popcorn from when we were just chatting with

937
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 2: Baldy and I want you to give me the five

938
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Speaker 2: most intriguing storylines you have the inside goods on the

939
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Speaker 2: East West Shrine Bowl. Let's start with the running back

940
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Speaker 2: out of UCLA. And this isn't just interesting stuff guys

941
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 2: on the field, it's off the field as well.

942
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Speaker 4: Go yes, thank you.

943
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 3: Jane transferred from ball State, where he rushed for over

944
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 3: fifteen hundred yards and fourteen touchdowns in the twenty twenty

945
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 3: two season, spent this last year almost one thousand yards

946
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Speaker 3: at UCLA. But you're going to love him because of

947
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 3: his pet, which is a five Cardinals Steels pet alligator

948
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Speaker 3: named Krocky J.

949
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Speaker 4: Not sure why Crocky.

950
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Speaker 3: Just the name, I mean crocodile Krocky. Well, I'm gonna

951
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:27,879
Speaker 3: find that out when I get a chance to talk

952
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 3: to him in person. But he's had it since he

953
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 3: was eight years old. His parents thought it would be

954
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 3: a fun Christmas gift and yes, yeah.

955
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Speaker 4: Just like, oh hey, here's an alligator. But it's still

956
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 4: with us. And Krocky J.

957
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Speaker 3: Is a big deal in the Carson Steel household back

958
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Speaker 3: in Indiana, and so he is an absolute stud. Yes, yes,

959
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:57,359
Speaker 3: he's an actually ever anything like that his nicknames are

960
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 3: four and Fabio Fabio bi of his hair or because

961
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 3: he could lift the entire weight room like he is

962
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Speaker 3: an absolute stud of a human being. Can't wait to

963
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Speaker 3: talk to him, can't wait to see him on the

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Speaker 3: broadcast Thursday night.

965
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Speaker 2: Love It, Love It. How about seven qbs you're going

966
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Speaker 2: to have there? We got plenty of experience with these

967
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Speaker 2: guys too.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and every single one of those seven quarterbacks from

969
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Speaker 3: Devin Larry to Jordan Travis to Talia Tungo Bailoa and

970
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 3: everywhere in between, have played at more than one school, okay,

971
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Speaker 3: thus the transferental era of college football, and all seven

972
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Speaker 3: of them have played in more than forty games. So

973
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Speaker 3: go back to Shrine Bowl alums of recent past, Brock Purdy,

974
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Speaker 3: Aidan O'Connell last year, Dorrian Thompson Robinson last year, all

975
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Speaker 3: guys who started games in the NFL this year and

976
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Speaker 3: had that opportunity because of the experience they had in college.

977
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Speaker 3: And so I can't wait to see which one of

978
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Speaker 3: these seven quarterbacks with that type of experience can show

979
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Speaker 3: us the ability to step into an opportunity if it

980
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Speaker 3: presents itself in his rookie.

981
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Speaker 2: Year Okay, how about you guys catching the football. Taj

982
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 2: Washington and Jaden Coker a couple of receivers to keep

983
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Speaker 2: an eye on.

984
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Speaker 4: Apparently, Yeah, good ones here.

985
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Speaker 3: So Taj Washington is an interesting one here right here

986
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Speaker 3: in Los Angeles where I live, home of NFL Network

987
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 3: of course, James well usc guy, and in addition to

988
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Speaker 3: being one of their top wide outs each of the

989
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Speaker 3: last couple of years, Taj has become known as Chef Taj.

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Speaker 3: In fact, he has his own YouTube channel where NFL

991
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Speaker 3: report competition. Yeah sorry, yeah, you know, maybe no Huddle

992
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 3: kitchen by the way, No Huddle Kitchen. Don't tell James

993
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 3: and Steve uh go check that out at some point.

994
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Speaker 3: But he's also been a guest chef at a restaurant

995
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Speaker 3: on campus, and dishes named after him are popping up

996
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 3: all around Los Angeles like the dude's a legit chefs.

997
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Speaker 3: So next time you're in town, will go see Chef

998
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 3: taje Okay, he's also a really good love it can't

999
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Speaker 3: wait to see him.

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Speaker 4: And then you mentioned Jalen Cocher, who you know.

1001
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Speaker 3: We love the guys that come from the smaller schools

1002
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 3: and make a big name for themselves when the competition

1003
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Speaker 3: ramps up. That is the case in the Shrine Bowl

1004
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 3: for a guy who played at FCS Holy Cross and

1005
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 3: was a phenomenally productive wide receiver. But he has known

1006
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 3: James if he wanted to play in the NFL since

1007
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 3: he was a six year old playing flag football. And

1008
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 3: in fact, he was so good at sports that parents

1009
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Speaker 3: would come up to his mom, Jenny, and they were like,

1010
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,839
Speaker 3: we're gonna see your son playing on TV one day. Well,

1011
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Speaker 3: as it turns out, you're gonna see him playing in

1012
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Speaker 3: primetime on national television. Missus Cocher Thursday Night on NFL

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Speaker 3: Network at eighties.

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Speaker 2: I love it. That used to happen to me at

1015
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 2: youth sports. How about Tarheem still the corner from Maryland,

1016
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Speaker 2: Real quick on him.

1017
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Speaker 4: A ton of talent in the defensive back room in

1018
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 4: the last two years at Maryland.

1019
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 3: You might remember Deontay Banks and Jacory and Bennett last

1020
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 3: year who blew up the combine with four three forty times.

1021
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 3: Both of them went first two days of the draft.

1022
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Speaker 3: Tealia Tunguebailoa, Tarheb's teammate, told me that Tarheb used to

1023
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Speaker 3: regularly beat them.

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Speaker 4: Those two dudes in races, so he's got the speed

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Speaker 4: as well. Oh something.

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Speaker 2: I love it. I love it. Rhett has his hands full.

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Speaker 2: I love it. That's the inside analys you should get

1028
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Speaker 2: from Rett Lewis when he subs in here and we

1029
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 2: host games, but you also get inside analysis from these

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Speaker 2: two guys right here, James Palmer, Steve that's us Monday

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Speaker 2: seven fifteen. Steve will be back, but definitely Rhet will

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Speaker 2: be returning. I will tell you that. Rhett, thank you

1033
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Speaker 2: so much podcast joining me on this journey. This is

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Speaker 2: also a podcast. As Rhett said, let's do it.

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Speaker 7: Guys.

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Speaker 2: You can always catch rhtt on Move the sticks by

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Speaker 2: the way.