1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,320 Speaker 1: We are live here in San Jose with Lisa Sue, 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: the COO a MD. It's been incredibly busy day for you. 3 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: But there's a lot of emphasis on the importance of 4 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 1: MI I three hundred x, your latest AI accelerator. But 5 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: the technological difference visa v the H one hundred in 6 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: videos is HBM. 7 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 2: Three high bandwidth memory. 8 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: But what advantage does that give you in the immediate 9 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: term against what is a clear market incumbent in the space. 10 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, first of all, it's great to be here. 11 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 3: Thank you guys for being on site and spending so 12 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 3: much time with us today. It's been a big, big 13 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 3: day for AMD. We're so excited about first the opportunity 14 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 3: in AI is just absolutely exploding. And then we're talking 15 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 3: today about the launch of our I three hundred x, 16 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 3: which is our you know, let's call it the leading 17 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,919 Speaker 3: edge data center AI accelerator. And you know, we were 18 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 3: here with a lot of our partners as well. So 19 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 3: you know your comment about you know, what's special about 20 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 3: three hundred x, I mean, the truth is we've all 21 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 3: experienced over the last you know, twelve months, this incredible 22 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 3: right you know, chat GPT has has really changed the 23 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 3: way we think about what tech can do, and the 24 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 3: underlying capability of that is GPUs and you know, very 25 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 3: very capable of GPUs. You know, we made some very 26 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 3: very good decisions, you know, a few years ago about 27 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 3: how to put together this technology and that includes both 28 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 3: being very good for training, so training large models, but 29 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 3: also very good for answering questions or inference. So when 30 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 3: you ask you know, the chat rept a question, it 31 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 3: takes sometimes a little bit of time for it to 32 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 3: respond to an answer. 33 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 2: Some latency, there's. 34 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 3: Some latency there, and you know, we've found you know, 35 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 3: really a great technological solution by adding you know, lots 36 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 3: of high bandwidth memory or memory capacity. 37 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: Which video will not have into H two hundred second 38 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: quarter of next year. 39 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 3: That is correct. We are industry leaning, so you know, 40 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 3: best in class in terms of inference performance. 41 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: And what is the side by side Lisa on training 42 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: and performance? Am I three hundred versus H one hundred. 43 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, So if you look at we've showed some of 44 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 3: the benchmarks earlier today, If you look at training performance, 45 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 3: we're very very competitive, let's call it. 46 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 2: You know, it's a toss up. 47 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 3: When you look at inference performance, we're one point four 48 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 3: to one point six times better. And you know what 49 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 3: that means is, you know, if you're running these models, 50 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 3: you can actually run more models, or you can run 51 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 3: larger models. You know, with MI I three hundred and 52 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 3: right now, you know the key to AI is GPU compute. 53 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 3: I mean, that is absolutely what everybody says, and so 54 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 3: we're here to provide lots of GPU compute. 55 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: You've had the confidence to dramatically alter your your forecast 56 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: for this market for AI accelerators. You're saying a total 57 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: addressable market of four hundred billion US dollars in twenty 58 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: twenty seven. In August, just in August you said it 59 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: was one hundred and fifty billion. 60 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 2: What has changed? 61 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know, really the way we look at 62 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 3: these things is we usually look at these things on 63 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 3: an annual basis, and so you know, when we were 64 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 3: doing our plan for twenty twenty three and beyond last year, 65 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 3: we thought that you know, this year there would be 66 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 3: about a thirty billion dollar market and it would grow 67 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 3: you know, fifty percent compound annual growth rates, so be 68 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 3: about one hundred and fifty billion in twenty twenty seven. Well, 69 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 3: frankly was very very large. But what's changed is we 70 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 3: can all see what's changed, right. People need more compute. 71 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 3: They're installing more. You know, the numbers for this year 72 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,799 Speaker 3: are probably closer to forty five billion. And when we 73 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 3: talk to customers, when I spend time with our partners, 74 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 3: and you know, what they tell us is the technology 75 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 3: requires more compute. And so we now believe the total 76 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 3: market for this it's upwards of four hundred billion and 77 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 3: twenty twenty seven. 78 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 2: It's huge. 79 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 3: There's no one size fits all. They're going to be 80 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 3: multiple solutions. There are lots of good solutions out there today, 81 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 3: but we believe the AMD capability is very significant, and 82 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 3: so we're excited about it. 83 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: It was interesting to see on stage how mi I 84 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: three hundred x manifests itself in the real world, but 85 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: you'd already guided us that it will likely be the 86 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: quickest AMD product to one billion dollars. There were sections 87 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: of the market in the street that said your forecast 88 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: of two billion dollars of sales for mi I three 89 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: hundred x in twenty four was conservative. If you're saying 90 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: that the total addressable market by twenty twenty seven is 91 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: now four hundred billion, then is that two billion forecast 92 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 1: for next year, specifically for MI I three hundred x 93 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: conservative as the market thinks it. 94 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 3: Is, well, I think you have to take a step 95 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 3: back and just look at how this technology is evolving. So, 96 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 3: you know, we did update in our last conference call 97 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 3: to an expectation about two billion in twenty twenty four 98 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 3: for our data CENTERGYPUS. It's a very early estimate. I 99 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 3: would say, you know, we have clearer line of sight 100 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 3: to that. But you know, what people ask me is 101 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 3: like there is much more customer demand, definitely, and there's 102 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 3: also significantly more supply because we've had to prepare the 103 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 3: supply chain so that we're ready to ramp. So we'll 104 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 3: update as we go along. You know, we are, you know, 105 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 3: definitely on this path to ramp I three hundred the 106 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 3: fastest is anything's ever ramped at AMD And you know, 107 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 3: I view this as a multi year opportunity for us. 108 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: A reminders to our Bloomberg television and radio audience worldwide. 109 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: We're live with Lisa Sue, the a M D CEO 110 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: here in San Jose. I mean, supply is a key 111 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: question because when you say about two billion dollars, about 112 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: could mean less or more than two billion dollars but 113 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: what is. 114 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 2: The state of supply right now? 115 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: Has it improved such that actually you could exceed your 116 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 1: expectations because you have visibility on a greater volume of 117 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: GPUs to hand over to customers. 118 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. When we plan, we plan for success, 119 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 3: and so our planning has the capability to be significantly 120 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 3: higher than two billion. We have, you know, customer demand, 121 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 3: you know, serve lots and lots of interest for I 122 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 3: three hundred and I think the key for us is, 123 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 3: you know, one step at a time. Right to day 124 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 3: was a huge day in terms of the launch. We're 125 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 3: actively in deployment with a number of the customers and 126 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 3: partners you know, Microsoft on stage, Oracle, Meta, our OEM partners, 127 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 3: del Lenovo, super Micro. 128 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 2: Everyone is really doing. 129 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 3: Just phenomenal HPE on the three hundred A side, So 130 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 3: a great, great set of partners and great partnerships for 131 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 3: us to ramp as fast as possible. 132 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: What's happening right now is you have AMD coming to 133 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: the cutting edge with three hundred x by adding HBM three. 134 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: Nvidia has the H one hundred h two hundreds coming, 135 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 1: they have Grayhoppers, super Chit and at the same time, 136 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: the hyperscalers are really aggressively investing in their own silicon. 137 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 2: How does that work in practice? 138 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: If you're trying to say I've got the cutting edge 139 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 1: and AI accelerators and the hyperscaler saying right, I also 140 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 1: have the cutting edge in AI accelerators. 141 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 2: Are you competitors? Are you collaborators? Which is it? 142 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 3: I think we are first and foremost collaborators. I mean, 143 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 3: you know what we see that's really happening is everybody 144 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 3: realizes the foundation is the silicon compute. So of course 145 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 3: people are going to invest in silicon. Now, from my standpoint, 146 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 3: compute is hard, and it's especially hard if you're trying 147 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 3: to address the bleeding edge. So you know, our expectation 148 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 3: is there will be solutions. There will be some proprietary solutions. 149 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 3: There will be a lot of GPUs. You know, in 150 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 3: my four hundred billion dollar TAM, I would say it's 151 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 3: predominantly GPUs, and we work in collaborations, so there will 152 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 3: be multiple solutions. But for the largest language models, for 153 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 3: the most complex workloads, we believe that we're extremely well positioned. 154 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: Actually, a question from our Bloomberg Technology audience globally when 155 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: I said that you're coming on the show, is take 156 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: that tam for twenty twenty seven four hundred billion, But 157 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: tell us how much of it is driven by inference 158 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: and how much is driven by training, because there's a 159 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: chance that a lot of the training is complete by then. 160 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 161 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 3: By the way, I don't think the training will be 162 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 3: complete by them, because I think there will be a 163 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 3: desire to continue to get better to you know, if 164 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 3: you think about you know, what we're really looking for is, 165 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 3: you know, how does AI really become, you know, as sophisticated, 166 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 3: as capable as humans. There's still a lot that we 167 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 3: can do. But that being the case, we do view 168 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 3: that the inference market will even grow faster, that will 169 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 3: be even more queries. And so you know, if I 170 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 3: look at twenty twenty seven, I think more than half 171 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 3: the market. 172 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 2: Will be inference, more than half inference. Where is it 173 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 2: right now? 174 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,559 Speaker 3: It's predominantly training right now, as people. 175 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: Are and I mean in the context specifically of demand 176 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: for I three hundred x. 177 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, So if I think about the market today, there's 178 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 3: a lot of training. I think if you think about 179 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 3: three hundred X and what we see in twenty twenty four, 180 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 3: it's a good balance between training and inference. But certainly 181 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 3: on inference. We just have killer performance. 182 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: So a lot of the chatter that here in the 183 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: valley is no matter how good the GPUs are, in 184 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: some places, the software that comes with it and manages 185 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: it is not that good. And one of the questions 186 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 1: put to me for you is how much are you 187 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: going to invest in software and how good do you 188 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: think you are at software? 189 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. Look, we've spent a significant amount of resources, both 190 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 3: organically and inorganically. We just acquired a couple of companies 191 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 3: to augment our software resource standpoint. 192 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 2: We think we're very well positioned. 193 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 3: Today we announced our next generation rock them six, which 194 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 3: is really designed for Gen AI workloads. I know it's 195 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 3: a little bit of a detail. What customers are telling 196 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 3: us is m I three hundred is actually really easy 197 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 3: to use. You know, we've gotten sort of the heavy 198 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 3: lifting done. We've really focused on these higher level frameworks. 199 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 3: So you know, people really liked actually building models and 200 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 3: building their applications in PyTorch. And you know, PyTorch is 201 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 3: an open ecosystem. It works very very well with AMD 202 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 3: and so these are you know, some of many steps 203 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 3: we announced this morning that open Ai Triton is also 204 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 3: you know, optimizing with AMD on their next revision. We're 205 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,839 Speaker 3: making a lot of progress and for sure, I think 206 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 3: on the software side, we're absolutely ready, Lisa. 207 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: Even in the short time I've been in Silicon Valley 208 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 1: six years, people have said, A m D won't do it. 209 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: They won't they won't beat they won't enter the market, 210 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: Intel will beat them on PC. In the context of AI, 211 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: will you beat in video or will you be competitive? 212 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 3: You know what I'd like to say is we are 213 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 3: very very focused on our roadmap. Ed I have to say, 214 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 3: this is about what do we believe is important for 215 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 3: the market and how are we shooting for you know, 216 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 3: where the market is going. So yeah, I think we're 217 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 3: going to do great in AI. I mean I think 218 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 3: AI is our number one priority. Hopefully that was clear today. 219 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 3: You know, we've pivoted the company to really focus on AI. 220 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 3: I think they're going to be multiple winners in AI. 221 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 3: And as you know, kind of important as the cloud is, 222 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 3: we think enterprise is really important. We think HPC is 223 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 3: very important, we think PC's are very important, and you know, 224 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 3: this is kind of the next big wave in tech. 225 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:02,239 Speaker 2: A m dco Lisa South, thank you. This is Bloomberg 226 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 2: m