1 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace on Sirius XM Triumph Channel 2 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: one two. I'll never give a hope. Growing up in 3 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:23,319 Speaker 1: rural Middle Georgia, when we got home from school, we 4 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: could get on our bikes and ride until supper time, 5 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: until it got dark. We could play in the woods. 6 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: We could get wet in streams. We could play to 7 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: our hearts content. There was nothing but soybean fields and 8 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: pine trees as far as the eye could see. Those 9 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: days are over. Think about it. It starts getting dark, 10 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: It's time for your children to be home. You call, 11 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: you blow the car horn, You look around the neighborhood, 12 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 1: and they don't answer, and something inside of you says, 13 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: this isn't right, this isn't like any other night. That 14 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 1: is what happened to two beautiful young twin girls, Dannette 15 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: and Jeanette Millbrook. What happened. It was a Sunday. The 16 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: twins left where they lived to just walk up the 17 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: street to their godfather's home on Forest Street in the 18 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: Bethlehem neighborhood. The sisters make the walk to Forest Street 19 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: so their godfather could give them twenty dollars to ride 20 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: the city bus to and from Lucy c. Laney High School. Okay, 21 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:03,639 Speaker 1: that's what we know. Where are they now? I'm Nancy Grace. 22 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us. 23 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 1: With me, Laura Norton, fall Line podcast investigator and host, 24 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: Brooke Hargrove, fall Line podcast investigator and host, Michael Wheeling, 25 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: Unresolved podcast host and with Me special guest Shanty Sturgis. 26 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: Shanty is the sister of the twin girls, Danette and 27 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: Jeanette Millbrook. You know their case was largely ignored at 28 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: the time they go missing and has since become a 29 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 1: closed file, unsolved cold. I don't see it that way. 30 00:02:55,639 --> 00:03:00,399 Speaker 1: First to you, Shaunte Sturgis, ma'am, thank you so much 31 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: for being with us. Do you remember the day your 32 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 1: twin sisters disappeared? Yes, ma'am, I dude, what happened. We 33 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: went to church that morning and I think we left church. 34 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:19,399 Speaker 1: I stay around by maybe twelve thirty, and we made 35 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 1: them home. Um before I believe in church. The pastor 36 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: at the church gave my mom money because she didn't 37 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: have any money to feed us for that day, so 38 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: he gave her money and she sent them to church's chicken. 39 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: I stay around about one o'clock. They came home and 40 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: they told where jan told my mom they um, a 41 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: guy was following them in a white van. We don't 42 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: know for sure if he was actually following them or not, 43 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: but that's what they was thinking he was following them, 44 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: So that's what they told my mom. They were fifteen 45 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: at the time. I was twelve when they went missing. 46 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: Let me interject right here, Mrs Sturgis, at fifteen years old, 47 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: I may not have noticed a white van driving by, 48 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: but I think I would have noticed if every time 49 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: I looked up, it was right there, uh with me 50 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: as Shaunte Sturgis, the sister of missing Jeanette and Jeanette. 51 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 1: So they tell the mom they've noticed a white than 52 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: following them all the way home from churches chicken. Then 53 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: what happened, and nothing really happened after they talked about it, 54 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: you know, everybody just sat down and ate and laid 55 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: on In the afternoon, I think it was light around back, 56 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 1: maybe two thirty. They was talking to my mom about 57 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: getting to school that next day, which would have been 58 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 1: that Monday, and she was like, she didn't have any 59 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 1: money for them to catch the bus, and she didn't 60 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:52,239 Speaker 1: want them to walk you know, to school from where 61 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: we lived. That because the school that they lived that 62 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 1: it was probably like I say, about six miles or 63 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: so from where we moved to, as we just had 64 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: moved from the area they went missing from. She asked 65 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: them to call my god dad on the phone and 66 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: asked him because he give them some money for them 67 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: to be able to catch the bus back and forth 68 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: for that week. They left the house, I said, they 69 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: run back maybe three Um, so what they made it 70 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: to his house. From his house, they went to a 71 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: cousin of ours house. They asked her home you know 72 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 1: with them. I'm not sure why that particular day, her 73 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: mom told her to know, I guess you know, they 74 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: left and that's when they made it to my older 75 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: sister have. When they got her house, they asked her 76 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: could she walk on home with them? At this point, um, 77 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: we're not sure why they asked her. We're not sure 78 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: why they asked my cousin, but we just found out 79 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: recently my sister just now telling us is the reason 80 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: why she thinking they asked her? She said, because she 81 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: think they probably scared to walk back home by themselves 82 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 1: for some odd reason. I'm not sure why. Because they're 83 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: not here to tell the side of the store. So 84 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 1: after they left my sister house, um, my mom had 85 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: called her and asked her as she seen them, because 86 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: you know, it was already by I said, about four 87 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: third or five o'clock, and they still hadn't made it 88 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:32,919 Speaker 1: back home. You know, it don't take that long to 89 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: get to where they had to go and to get back. 90 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: I mean, they wasn't supposed to go to my sister 91 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 1: house that day. They were supposed to go to my 92 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: guard their house and come back, but for some reason 93 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: they went to her house. Anyway. She told my mom 94 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: when they left there that they went walking towards the 95 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 1: pumping shop store. Once they went walking towards the pumping 96 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: shop store, you know, that's the reason why my mom 97 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 1: stopped at that store, because after they hadn't got home, 98 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: you know, at the Pacific time, and then she don't 99 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 1: call them around, asked the people had they've seen them, 100 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: heard from them. She got worried, so me and her 101 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: went walking to go try to see if we could 102 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: meet them or meet up with them somewhere or see 103 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: them somewhere, you know, And by that time we made 104 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: it down to the pumper shop store, and it's elated 105 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: by the name of Gloria who she knew us. And 106 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: my mom asked her had she seen them coming the store, 107 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: and she told them, yeah, they came in there. They 108 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: brought cannon shoulder and something to drink, you know, some 109 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: chills um. And she said she looked away, you know, 110 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: to ring up another customer. By the time she looked up, 111 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: they was gone. So she says, she don't know if 112 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: they got in the car with somebody. She don't know. 113 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: What we do know that they made it that far. 114 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: Hold On with me is a sister of the missing 115 00:07:56,160 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: twins Janette and Jeanette, and now the Richmond County Sheriff, 116 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: the elected sheriff, Richard Rowntree, says this is a quote 117 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: terrible injustice and he has actually reopened the case of 118 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: the missing twin girls, Danette and Jeanette. Mill brooks Now, 119 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: the very mysterious disappearance of Danette and Jeanette now reopened, 120 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: sat unresolved for so long. These two just walking home 121 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:34,599 Speaker 1: from a convenience store in Augusta, Georgia, But unbeknownst to 122 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: the family, investigators had not even looked at the case 123 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: for over two decades. Why. According to the elected chair 124 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: of Richard Rowntree, the original case files are missing, and 125 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: not long after the two girls disappeared, the girls were 126 00:08:52,720 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: taken off the national database for Missing Children. Why why 127 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: did that happen? To Laura norton Fall Line podcast, thank 128 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: you for being with us, Laura, But what happened? Well, 129 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 1: it took us quite a while to kind of unpack that. 130 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: But what we have figured out is the case was 131 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: closed on hearsay, and that hearstay changes based on who 132 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: is describing it. The original investing. I don't know what 133 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: you're saying. Hold on, the case was closed on hearsay. 134 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 1: It was allegedly closed on hearsay according to the ig. 135 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 1: What means well, a case closed on hearsay? What does 136 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: that even? There's what the original investigator said, Um, we 137 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: actually did speak to him on the phone once, so 138 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: we got some information there. According to him, he says 139 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: that the twins were found and he based that judgment 140 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: on he alleges that a juvenile investigator or a juvenile 141 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: probation officer rather saw the twins. Now that is not 142 00:09:55,840 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: anywhere in the case file. Uh, there's no support for that. 143 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: He told the family the case was closed because the 144 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: twins that turned seventeen and they could no longer be 145 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 1: made to go home. Um, as we know, that's not 146 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: the case. He closed it in April, seven days after 147 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: their seventeenth birthday. Then two years I completely smell a rat. 148 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: You don't close a missing person, much less a double 149 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: missing person of young girls just because they reached majority. 150 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: That that's not that's not even true. Laura, Yep, that's 151 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:31,839 Speaker 1: that's exactly. That's why we were so shocked to hear 152 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: Shaunty tell us that. Then when we finally got some 153 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: information from Nick Mack when we spoke with them, he 154 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 1: then called in and closed the case there in Um, well, 155 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: we don't know and we can't find out, but our 156 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: guest is that because that is the year he changed jobs, 157 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 1: and he may have been going through his files and 158 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: closing things out here and there. But that of course 159 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: was a major blow to the case because for you know, 160 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: twenty years, nothing was checked against them, no DNA on file. Nothing. 161 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: I cannot even imagine. Back to Shanty Sturgis, the sister 162 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: of the missing girls, I can't imagine the suffering your 163 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: mom went through finding out the case was closed because 164 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: somebody claimed they saw the twins. Is that true? Did 165 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: somebody see them? Chante? No, nobody has never seen them. Um. 166 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 1: We actually don't even know if that is true about 167 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: the probation officer being in contact with them the whole time. Um, 168 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: because the same probation officer also told my mom that 169 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: he didn't understand why I've reached m the county went 170 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: and go out ahead to look for them or when 171 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: doing investigation, and he was gonna try to help her 172 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: because he didn't understand how two girls go missing and 173 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: nobody does anything. Well, who was who do we know? 174 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: Also joining me in addition to Laura Norton from Aline 175 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: is Brooke hard Growth from Fall Lines highly popular podcast 176 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: and Michael Wheeling from Unresolved highly popular podcast? Brooke, who 177 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 1: is this person? Says he saw the twins? So what 178 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: we found out Nancy about this individual? There were several 179 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: cases that he was in charge of investigating over the 180 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: years of missing missing persons, but specifically missing children. He 181 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: seemed to tire of these cases because he said that 182 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: they would often find these children that were runaways, returned 183 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: them to their family, only to have them run away again. 184 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: So in his mind, these children were in that category. 185 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 1: He actually referred to them as just two runaways. In 186 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:56,719 Speaker 1: our recent call with him, UM, he reported that they 187 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: had been found, when that was not true. We believe 188 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: he was trying to clear the case out because he 189 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: didn't want to investigate them. He seemed to just look 190 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 1: at them as to two kids from the projects, you know, 191 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: just gott into trouble and we're runaways. Okay. That is 192 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: breaking my heart because these girls, two sisters, didn't run 193 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: away and stay away from their mother and their sister 194 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: and their family all these years. That's not true. That 195 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 1: is not true. If you have any information regarding Janette 196 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: and Jeanette, please call the Richmond County Sheriff seven zero 197 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 1: six eight to one one zero six zero repeat, seven 198 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 1: zero six eight to one zero six zero. Michael Wheeling 199 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: Unresolved podcast host way in. Oh, yeah, this is just 200 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: one of those stories that UM. I first discovered it, 201 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 1: there wasn't really any like major news coverage of the case. 202 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 1: But I moved to Augusta a year and a half ago, 203 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: and I remember when I discovered the story was a 204 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 1: kind of like an article that was covering Augusta's missing 205 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: unsolved cases. Basically everything dating back to the nineteen seventies, 206 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: and hidden right in the middle of it is a 207 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: story of two twins that disappeared on the exact same 208 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: day in and to me, that just always stood out 209 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: as something that, you know, set this case apart from 210 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: everything else I've researched, because when you talk about missing people, 211 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: it's normally a big deal. People make a big stink 212 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: about it, and when two or more people go missing, 213 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: it's you know, like the Springfield three is one of 214 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: the biggest mysteries in America, and that's gotten tons of 215 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: press conforage, it's gotten news articles, it's gotten news clippings, 216 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: and this just had nothing. It's just heartbreaking nothing. As 217 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: the mother sat by with her heartbreaking every single day. 218 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: And I want to know, I love my girls, my family, 219 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: and I'm hoping that we do get justice what it 220 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: was known at all. For those of you just joining us, 221 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: we are investigating the sudden and mysterious disappearance of two 222 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: young girls from Augusta, Georgia, Danette and Jeanette Millbrook. For 223 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: some reason, within the police department, the case was closed. 224 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: The file disappeared shortly after their disappearance. They were that 225 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: it wasn't just lost. The two girls were then actively 226 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: removed from the National Database of Missing Children. So that's 227 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: not just accidentally losing the file, Laura Norton. It's not 228 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: just saying, okay, it's it's a cold case. This is 229 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: actively going to the national database and removing them that 230 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: it's no longer an act of a mission. It's a 231 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: a decision to remove them from the databank. Laura, I 232 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: don't understand it. It was a purposeful choice, and it 233 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: was very strange because we have mentioned a probation officer, 234 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: but I want to be clear, the twins were not 235 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: on probation. They were not in trouble. The probation officer 236 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: lived in their neighborhood, uh, and that's why their mother 237 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: went to him for some help. And this is the 238 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: man that was blamed after he had already died for 239 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: this problem by the original investigator. The twins where homebodies. 240 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: They were sweet girls, and Danette actually was on seizure 241 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: medication for grandma's seizures. Certainly not the kind of runaway 242 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: that you might imagine. Back to Shanta Sturgis, the sister 243 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: of Jeanette and Danette, the missing twin girls. Now we 244 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: left off with the story at they were at You 245 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: guys went to church that morning. Your mom was broke. 246 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: The pastor gave her money for everybody to go out 247 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: for a fried chicken lunch. They go to church's chicken. 248 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:05,360 Speaker 1: They make it to a convenience store that has been 249 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 1: verified and then at that point, shante what happens? Um 250 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: At that point, um, my mom went, we went back home. 251 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: My mom called reached my county, and they told her 252 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: that in order for her to report them missing, that 253 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: she had to wait twenty four hours. So she waited. 254 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:29,199 Speaker 1: The twenty four hours. They still he came back. She 255 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 1: still was calling around asking people here they've seen them? Um, nobody, 256 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: nobody still had seen him at that point. The next 257 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: week after is when they sent the investigat out. The 258 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: investigator came out and wait a minute, wait a minute. 259 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: A whole week passes, yes, ma'am. Oh Brooke Hargrove, Oh man, 260 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:59,199 Speaker 1: that's bad. A whole week passes, yes, ma'am. This is 261 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: one and as spring of outrageous actions um against this family, 262 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: frankly by the local law enforcement. To Michael wheel And, 263 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 1: host of Unresolved podcast, why a Week, I honestly wish 264 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: I could tell you that that is what I've covered 265 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 1: my fair share of missing persons cases, But this is 266 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: the first time where there's been the twenty four hour 267 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 1: waiting period to report two children missing and then days, 268 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: if not a week, to come out and take statements 269 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:39,120 Speaker 1: from the family members. This is so unlike anything even 270 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: for you know, at some point when you start looking 271 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 1: at it and hearing all this, it almost seems as 272 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 1: if the investigators no more. Then they're saying because you've 273 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 1: got them first saying, oh, you can't report them for 274 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:02,360 Speaker 1: twenty four hours. Then the detective assigned to it goes, 275 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 1: they're just runaways. Then he claims a witness spots them 276 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: and actively closes the file. The file gets quote lost. 277 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: Then someone goes to the next level of having them 278 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: removed from the national database of Missing people. Now we 279 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 1: learn an investigator wasn't even sent out for a week. Michael, 280 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:32,439 Speaker 1: I mean, is there any explanation for that? Um? I 281 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: wish I could tell you. Unfortunately, all the like you said, 282 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: the original case documents are gone, so we can't even 283 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: you know, other than what the family has said since then, 284 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 1: there's no record of you know, when they went out 285 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 1: and when they started to actually investigate anything or even 286 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: what they investigated. This is what we know. If I 287 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: could clarify Nancy, this is Brooke, I'd like to clarify um. 288 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 1: After the twenty four hour waiting period, they did send 289 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 1: a beat cop. He took down a few preliminary notes. 290 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: Almost all of them were incorrect. He incorrectly spelled their name, 291 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:12,479 Speaker 1: he took down their birthday wrong, the wrong street they 292 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 1: were last seen on, etcetera. After that, the family didn't 293 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: hear anything from the police department for a week, and 294 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 1: that after that week is when they sent out an 295 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: investigator who came out and said he would be in 296 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: charge of the case. So beet Cock comes gets the 297 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,719 Speaker 1: wrong information, but still an investigator did not come for 298 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: a solid week. I've been investigating the twins and this 299 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 1: is what I've learned. They were well known and loved 300 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 1: and their small community there in Augusta. They loved music, 301 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: they loved TV, they were happy, they loved school. They 302 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 1: got great grades. They were never known to be troublemakers. 303 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: They didn't They had no history of ever running away. 304 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: There was no motive at the time for them to 305 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 1: run away. It was normal Sunday. They had no history 306 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: of misbehavior. There was one instance because one of them 307 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: was being bullied at a bus stop that they got 308 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: into an argument one time, and that is consistent with 309 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: what Seanta, the sister has told us that no trouble 310 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 1: good grades the works. The mother, Mary Louise Sturgis, has 311 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: been very involved trying to find her twins. Now understand this, 312 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 1: Danette and Jeanette had eight siblings, and the mom has 313 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: her hands full as she's trying to find two teen 314 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: missing girls, apparently getting very little help from the local police. 315 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: And then the file gets lost. There's a false siding 316 00:21:56,240 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 1: that's not confirmed, and investigators dropped the case with out 317 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: the mom knowing. It just seems to get worse and 318 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: worse and worse. I want to tell you something that 319 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: I've learned about Jeanette and Danette mill Brooks. In the 320 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: world of these two twins, Jeanette and Janette, they spend 321 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: a lot of time on their front porch and Augusta, Georgia, 322 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: just the way we would sit on my grandmother Lucy's 323 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 1: front porch outside of Making Georgia, watching the world go by, talking, 324 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: being together. That was where these two twins love to 325 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: be and according to their cousin that she can still 326 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 1: remember their smiles with their her eyes closed. Then one 327 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 1: day both of them they leave that porch and they vanish. 328 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 1: The mystery has never been soft. The cousin says, I 329 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,360 Speaker 1: love them and I will never stop looking for them 330 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: until the day I die. Shante Sturgis, their sister, is 331 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: with us. Now, Shanty, tell me about how their disappearance 332 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 1: affected your mother. It has affected hers tremendously, because um 333 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: she has I mean, you know how some people get 334 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: around and they're like her age. She ceased to three. 335 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: Now they went missing with they was she was in 336 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 1: her thirties, so she she don't get around like most 337 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: people do. She it has took a toll on her 338 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 1: pretty much. Some days we used to be at home, 339 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: you know, I know, we have to go to school. 340 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 1: We get from school. Sometimes you're being in the room, 341 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 1: you know, crying and we can see a crying. It 342 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,439 Speaker 1: just it did something to her. So sometimes she was 343 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: giving up hope, you know. And I used to have 344 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 1: to tell her a little mama, you know, we're gonna 345 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 1: have to keep going. We're gonna have to keep trying. 346 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: Everybody ain't gonna tell, you know, So She kept trying 347 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: to call down there to the police department to get 348 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 1: somebody to help, and they would always tell her no. 349 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: So she sitting around for years and years and years 350 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: ago by and by the time I turned nineteen, I 351 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 1: just started doing it myself. I said, look, Mama, everybody 352 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: ain't gonna tell you know. I said, I got to 353 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: try to do something. We got to try to do something. 354 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: So I started calling down in myself from the age 355 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: of nineteen all the way up the to now, and 356 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: I'm forty years old. It was just before their birthday. 357 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: The twins headed out to visit their family friend. Their 358 00:24:55,080 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: little sister, then twelve, chante back to with him, but 359 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: being the older sisters, they said no, just like my 360 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: sister and brother would tell me. We we've pieced together 361 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: the fact that they go to a local pump and 362 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: shop gas station. It's also a convenient store, and it's 363 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:19,440 Speaker 1: there the intersection of twelfth Street and MLK Boulevard in Augusta. 364 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 1: They go inside, they get chips and drinks. The store 365 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 1: clerk positively identifies them being there and that they were fine. 366 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,479 Speaker 1: It was about four or thirty in the afternoon on 367 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: a Sunday. The clerk got busy at the cash register, 368 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: she saw the girls leave. She caught a glimpse of 369 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:41,719 Speaker 1: a vehicle outside, not enough to give a description or 370 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: to say whether the twins got into the vehicle, but 371 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:49,880 Speaker 1: we know this. They disappeared. They disappeared and have never 372 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 1: been seen again. To Laura Norton, fall Line podcast host, 373 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:59,199 Speaker 1: since the case has been reopened, what kind of searches 374 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: are going on? None? So what's the point of reopening it? 375 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:07,439 Speaker 1: There wasn't Well, that's what I wondered when I found 376 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: stumbled across the case. UM, I truly believe this is 377 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 1: not the only case that had this sort of treatment 378 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: in AUGUSTA. I want to be clear about that. Many 379 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: missing persons cases of miners were mishandled during that period 380 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:24,640 Speaker 1: and closed prematurely. Um Hearsay was involved. Nothing has happened. 381 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 1: An investigator was assigned in two thousand and thirteen, briefly 382 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 1: took DNA from Chante and her mother and their sister, 383 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: who was fully related to the twins in terms of 384 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: them having both the same mother and father, best DNA sample, 385 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: and began some preliminary research. But then she left the 386 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: department and at the time that we began looking into 387 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: the case, no one was assigned to it, and no 388 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 1: further action have been taken. Are you suggesting that it 389 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 1: was only reopened because pressure from your podcast fall line? Well, 390 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: the it was reopened in two thousand and thirteen, and 391 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: that was the new sheriff was elected. Richard Rowntree and 392 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 1: Shawnta directly contacted the Sheriff's office at that point and 393 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: asked them to do so. He was reaching out to 394 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: the community asking what he could do. But between two 395 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 1: thousand and thirteen and June of two thousand and seventeen, 396 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: when we began our podcast, nothing further ahead happened. Agree 397 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 1: or disagree, Michael with unresolved. Yeah, Richmond County so far 398 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: has really done nothing to inspire any confidence that the 399 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,719 Speaker 1: investigation is going somewhere. In my opinion, I've tried reaching 400 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: out to them. I've called, I've sent emails. I've even 401 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: tried filing a Freedom of Information Act not too long ago, 402 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: and I haven't even heard back on that. So, as 403 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: far as I know, there is no movement on the case, 404 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 1: and I'm not even sure if anyone is openly investigating 405 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: the case as of this moment. They're not um there 406 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: was someone assigned, but they've recently been moved to another department. 407 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: We know because we do regularly contact and with leads 408 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: and information that we developed, and there's no one currently 409 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: assigned to the Take a listen to this. Once I 410 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: took a look at the case, I saw that there 411 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: was a gray miss justice done to that family. The 412 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 1: individual work in that case. UM inversely close the case 413 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: for whatever reason in the case shouldn't have been closed. 414 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: Back to Shaunty started us the sister of Danette and Jeanette, 415 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:26,679 Speaker 1: Shaunte that day that you realized your sisters were gone? 416 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 1: What do you remember about that day and that night 417 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: as the hours began to pass and they didn't come home. 418 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: My mom pacing up and down and just kept as 419 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 1: I kept you know, I was up with her. My 420 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: other sister was up with him. Um. She just kept 421 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: talking about it, you know, and find everybody went to 422 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: sleep and we got up to go to school. That 423 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: next morning. When we got home from school, we asked 424 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: the head they came back home and she was like, no, 425 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: she hadn't heard from I said it, Where have you 426 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: heard from the police? Did they say anything? And she 427 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: was like no. Um, So like I said that next 428 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: week where they did send the cop out that they 429 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: got the information about they clothes they had on that day, 430 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 1: on where they were going, and um who whoever they 431 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: had contact with that day, did they have boyfriends and 432 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: things of that nature. He would ask her questions like that, 433 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: but we didn't really get no investigation out of anything, 434 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: even when the investigator did come out on the thing 435 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: he did was to go to the school and talk 436 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: to the people at the school that they attended, which 437 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: was Lucy Lane in high school. He talked to some 438 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: of the kids there, I think they said he talked 439 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: to the principal there, and the principal sup postman told 440 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 1: him that he's seen the girls standing on the corner 441 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: and when he called their name, they just took off runting. 442 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 1: But that was never confirmed. This is what the investigator said. 443 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: But he never went to the convenience sort of talk 444 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: to Ms. Gloria. He never went and talked to my sister. 445 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 1: He never talked to my cousin them that day. Everybody 446 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: they had had contact with them the day they went missing. 447 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: He never talked to on the people he talked to us. 448 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: The people at the school that claimed that um, they 449 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: saw them, um standing on the corner or they claimed 450 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 1: he said they've seen them in the bottom, which is 451 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: uh project that's called Underwood Homes. They were supposed to 452 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: be down there, and then they said that they were 453 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: supposed to being at somebody the house and um a 454 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: project called delth to Manor where my mom she stays there. Now, Um, 455 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 1: they had a couple of friends that did stay down there, 456 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 1: but they really didn't go to many place, you know, 457 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,479 Speaker 1: and whenever we did go into where all of us 458 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: went together, it's just that particular day, everybody just had 459 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: came home from church and you know, my mom was 460 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 1: getting there. Everybody rid of school the next day. She 461 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: wanted to feed everybody before they went to bed, and 462 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: she sent them out and ain't like you know, people 463 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 1: might say, okay, well when we did that too, bet yo, 464 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 1: it was walk. But I used to walk and I 465 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: was twe of years old and we used to walk 466 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: going to friends house of whatever. Back then. Also, we 467 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 1: wasn't the only ones that was doing that. You know, 468 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: we didn't think that nothing was gonna happen. She didn't 469 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: know that they wasn't gonna come back home that day. 470 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,719 Speaker 1: Well I did too, Shante all over the neighborhood, out 471 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: in the middle really of of of nowhere. Here's the 472 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: question to Brook Hargrove, Brooke. Apparently it's believed that the 473 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 1: girls got enough money to take a bus to a 474 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 1: high school. Do we know if they got on the bus? 475 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: Did that happen? No, ma'am. So they were collecting some 476 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: money from their godfather to use to take the bus 477 00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: to the high school each day the following week. Uh, 478 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: the last time they were seen was at the convenience store, 479 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: which would have been around four or five pm. They 480 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: were never seen again. Any reports that they were seen 481 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: came directly from the original investigator, who it has been 482 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 1: shown that he has um fabricated some details in the 483 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: past in order to be able to close the case. 484 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 1: We don't believe they made it very far past the 485 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 1: convenience store, and they certainly never got on a bus 486 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 1: and went to school again. Well, they were apparently real 487 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 1: home bodies. And my question is how do two teen 488 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 1: girls just disappear at the same time. I mean, it 489 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: would be very difficult to control two teen girls that 490 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 1: don't want to get in your vehicle or don't want 491 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: to go with you from the convenience store to their home, 492 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 1: to my understanding, is less than a mile, and most 493 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: of that would have been along M. L K Boulevard. 494 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: I've been on M l K a hundred times and 495 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 1: it's a very busy street and at that time, it 496 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 1: would have still been daylight outside. So how in broad 497 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 1: daylight did two girls on a very busy street get 498 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 1: dragged into a car by a random kidnapper? It says 499 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 1: to me it had to be somebody that they knew. 500 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 1: What about that, Laura Norton, I think that's the most 501 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: likely scenario. The only other and less likely option. There 502 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 1: was a serial rapist operating in the neighborhood at the time. 503 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: Who was Washington, Yes, ma'am, and take George, sorry, Josephatrick Washington, 504 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 1: and he was taking people off the street busy times 505 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 1: a day with a gun. But once again, as you 506 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: say to people, so the most likely scenario is it 507 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 1: would be someone that they knew. Um, they did not 508 00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 1: take rides from strangers, They were not hitchhikers. Now with Washington, 509 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: would this have been his emo? Compared to victims? Time 510 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 1: of day a Sunday, And weren't the victims found with 511 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 1: Washington as opposed to Janette. Janette never found. Well, it 512 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,879 Speaker 1: kind of was across the board. They would have been 513 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 1: in the victim pool in a large and broadway. They 514 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 1: were a little younger. Um, the time of day was 515 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 1: a little later. But some of Washington's victims were found 516 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 1: where he left them. But a few people were found 517 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 1: fairly far away. But you're right, as far as we know, 518 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 1: they were found. Questioned back to Shanty Stor just a 519 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: sister of the missing girls, Dannette and Jeanette Millbrooks Chaunte question. 520 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,879 Speaker 1: I know that you finally took it over from your 521 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: mother because she was just exhausted with trying to get 522 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 1: the police to act in this case, and that you 523 00:34:54,880 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 1: call them, call them, call them incessantly until a sheriff 524 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: finally agrees to look into it, only discovered the case 525 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: had been closed for years. When you would call them, Shaunte, 526 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 1: when you would call police, what would they say to you? 527 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 1: Crazy stuff that wasn't true. Um, I called down there 528 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 1: a couple of times. They told me my mom kids 529 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 1: head got taken away from I need the call to 530 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 1: uh the defects office to find out information from Well, 531 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,800 Speaker 1: that wasn't true because you were there with your mother 532 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 1: and the other all the eight brothers and sisters. They 533 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,240 Speaker 1: were not taken away and there have been no claims 534 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,479 Speaker 1: of child protective services in that home. I can't believe 535 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 1: one of them even said that. Okay, what else? Okay? 536 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: So at that call, I did what they said, I 537 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:52,359 Speaker 1: called defects. Defects told me to call foster foster home. Um, 538 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,879 Speaker 1: they probably was adopted out of something and so um. 539 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:57,799 Speaker 1: They gave me a phone them and to call some 540 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 1: adoption agency that was in a lamb of Georgia. I 541 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 1: called an adopted ation. They told me, well, I don't 542 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 1: know what they would Why would they tell you to 543 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,319 Speaker 1: call us because we wouldn't be able to give you 544 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 1: any information any way if they did. But they told 545 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 1: me because I was the sister said, or the only 546 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 1: way they would give me information is that I feeled 547 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,799 Speaker 1: that paperwork and they was gonna mad the paperwork to me, 548 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,880 Speaker 1: which they did, but I never filed it out of 549 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 1: sent it back because I already know what was the 550 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: stated wasn't true. Wait, let me understand what you're saying. 551 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 1: Are you telling me Shanta police told you to call 552 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 1: an adoption agency like your your team sisters were adopted 553 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 1: that day. The police told me to call defects they 554 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 1: see um because they from their recollection whatever they but 555 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,319 Speaker 1: they're saying the case file was closed. Now they they 556 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 1: have them in the fiul. But from whatever he was seeing. 557 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,319 Speaker 1: The guy that I talked to, I don't know his name, 558 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,080 Speaker 1: but he told me from what he was seeing that 559 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,799 Speaker 1: my mom kids had got taken away. Maybe, um, they 560 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,399 Speaker 1: you called the defects office because they probably by now 561 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,840 Speaker 1: they've probably been adopted out because they had been so 562 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 1: many youths from nine to the time that I start 563 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 1: looking for them, oh like seven years. Oh oh oh, 564 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 1: that's killing me. That's killing me, Brook Hargrove. She's trying 565 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 1: to find her sisters. At police say called defacts. They 566 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,439 Speaker 1: all know that children are in the home, the other 567 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,760 Speaker 1: eight children are in the home. They know the children 568 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 1: have not been removed from the home, and then they 569 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:45,320 Speaker 1: suggest defects suggest the girls were adopted. That's ridiculous. Absolutely, 570 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 1: Even if children had been removed from the home and 571 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:53,840 Speaker 1: attempted to be adopted out, the biological mother has to 572 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 1: sign paperwork terminating her parental rights, which of course Shaunte's 573 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 1: mother never did. It's totally absurd. I just I don't 574 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:08,319 Speaker 1: understand why they would even say that. So, Shaunte, you 575 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 1: know de Facts Department Family Children's Services, and we have 576 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 1: confirmed this was never called to the home. The children 577 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:20,440 Speaker 1: were not put up for adoption, and the fact that 578 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:25,840 Speaker 1: they would say this is another black eye to the police. 579 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 1: Why would they have said that instead of saying talking 580 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 1: to you about the investigations. Chante exactly, that's what I am. 581 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,319 Speaker 1: I said. And then further, my why didn't y'all give 582 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 1: her a chance to get her kids back if y'all 583 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 1: feel that the ending of the kids was in danger? 584 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,239 Speaker 1: Whyle y'all left the other kids and just took two 585 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 1: kids out of the home. I said, that don't make 586 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,880 Speaker 1: any sense. Well, it's all a big lie because we 587 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 1: know the current sheriff has reopened a missing person possible 588 00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 1: homicide case. So that's totally a lie. That brings me 589 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 1: to my question, Laura Norton, why the lie? Well, I 590 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 1: think that this is a long culture of apathy and incompetence, 591 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 1: and when we speak to the adoption case, there was 592 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,759 Speaker 1: someone in the system with a similar last name. There 593 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,759 Speaker 1: was not enough effort put into checking that to look 594 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 1: at the first name and see. Of course it's not 595 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,720 Speaker 1: the twins um and I really think in this case, 596 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 1: although it seems horrible and unbelievable, it has simply been 597 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:31,839 Speaker 1: a long string of incompetence, apathy, and not caring about young, 598 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:37,360 Speaker 1: poor girls of color. In Augusta, Georgia Chantey questioned, do 599 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:42,279 Speaker 1: you believe your sisters are alive at this point? I'm 600 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 1: not sure. I want to believe they are, always hope 601 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:52,359 Speaker 1: all these years that they are, but right now I'm 602 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 1: not sure. You know, years and years, like almost thirty 603 00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:00,239 Speaker 1: years now, and we still haven't fountain anything. And I 604 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 1: think he had to share the department did something back 605 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 1: then in ninety we probably wanna be where we were, 606 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 1: probably know something by now. But I never give up, 607 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 1: I said, I keep on going and keep going until 608 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,359 Speaker 1: we can at least find something out because somebody out 609 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:20,960 Speaker 1: there's no They just disappeared and nobody to know anything. 610 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 1: The heartache year after year of not knowing where your 611 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:33,240 Speaker 1: children are, what happened to them? But according to Schantay Sturgis, 612 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 1: the sheriff reopened the case, but nothing else has happened. 613 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:43,880 Speaker 1: Has anything happened? Chantey since he said he would reopen 614 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,759 Speaker 1: the case. They opened the case back up in twent 615 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:52,399 Speaker 1: and thirteen. Okay, two months um after that, the let 616 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 1: the investigator who they side over the case she was 617 00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:00,040 Speaker 1: no longer at the police department anymore. They said that 618 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 1: she had them moved on to I guess a different 619 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:08,400 Speaker 1: public agency or whatever. So after that, for months and 620 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,759 Speaker 1: months and months then went by and we haven't heard 621 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,279 Speaker 1: from them. Were called to find out what was going on, 622 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,920 Speaker 1: but we still got the same thing. They said that 623 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:21,319 Speaker 1: they were waiting for anybody with information to contact them, 624 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 1: and I'm like, you know, why would you all wait? 625 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 1: I said, it's been already the twenty three years that 626 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,759 Speaker 1: they've been missing so far, and y'all talking about way 627 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 1: and whether y'all waiting on for somebody to come to 628 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 1: I said, if anything, they would have been came down 629 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:42,360 Speaker 1: here by now, and Lord bhome, huh. Some months after 630 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,279 Speaker 1: I had called them, that's when I got contacted and 631 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 1: then on Facebook by Brooke and Laura, And from that 632 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 1: point on they've been doing the investigation. It has been 633 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 1: the police department. So I think if I had I 634 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,680 Speaker 1: they contact to me, we're still be back in nineteen nine. 635 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,640 Speaker 1: We still feel like we are because they still ain't 636 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:10,640 Speaker 1: doing anything. Brooke Hargrove, one of the producers of fall 637 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:14,320 Speaker 1: Line podcasts along with Laura Norton with us Now Michael 638 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:20,920 Speaker 1: Wheelan host of the Unresolved podcast. Brooke Hargrove, um, question 639 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 1: about something I've learned. I understand an investigator agreed to 640 00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:31,759 Speaker 1: meet with you after you uncovered new leads, but on 641 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,440 Speaker 1: the condition they don't you don't discuss the case, and 642 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:39,520 Speaker 1: you were not allowed to ask any questions. The family 643 00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 1: could come, but only if they asked no questions. Is 644 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:47,319 Speaker 1: that true? That's true? And unfortunately when we did show 645 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,840 Speaker 1: up for the meeting, it was myself and Laura and 646 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:54,920 Speaker 1: Shanta and her mother Ms. Louise. Once we showed up, 647 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 1: we were told there were too many people that only 648 00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,520 Speaker 1: two people would be allowed to attend a meeting, so 649 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,680 Speaker 1: I had to go in and make the evidence presentation. 650 00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:08,240 Speaker 1: Shanta went in because she's been heading the case since 651 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:12,359 Speaker 1: age nineteen, and Miss Louise, who had never had an 652 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:17,479 Speaker 1: in person meeting about her children's case since nine Ever 653 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,719 Speaker 1: she's never had one ever, was made to sit in 654 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:24,520 Speaker 1: the lobby and wait while this meeting took place. I 655 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,360 Speaker 1: just don't even know what to say to that Brooke, 656 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:33,759 Speaker 1: how horrible it is. Brooke, You on behalf of fall 657 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:38,360 Speaker 1: Line podcast have developed new leads. What are they? We 658 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:42,720 Speaker 1: have several Nancy. We started first looking into the Joseph 659 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 1: Patrick Washington UM connection because his victim profile well is 660 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,520 Speaker 1: very similar to Jeanette and Janette. There have also been 661 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:58,560 Speaker 1: um some Jane does recovered in the Aiken, South Carolina area, 662 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,600 Speaker 1: which is very close geographically to Augusta. They're kind of 663 00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:08,719 Speaker 1: like sister cities um. One of them, Shanta, saw a 664 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:13,240 Speaker 1: reconstruction on the news in the I believe late nineties, 665 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:17,080 Speaker 1: and she thought to herself, my goodness, that person looks 666 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,879 Speaker 1: so much like Jeanette. She called Richmond County she said, 667 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,080 Speaker 1: I just saw Jane Doe reconstruction on the news. Looks 668 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,759 Speaker 1: like my sister. They said, oh no, that that wasn't 669 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,000 Speaker 1: the twins, although they could never explain to her how 670 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,399 Speaker 1: they came to that conclusion because they didn't have any 671 00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:38,520 Speaker 1: materials for testing until when they reopened the case. We 672 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:42,560 Speaker 1: were able to contact the corner in Aiken County, South Carolina, 673 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:47,839 Speaker 1: and he is currently running a comparison between that Jane Doe, 674 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:52,440 Speaker 1: who is still unclaimed and Jeanette, we're waiting on results. 675 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,120 Speaker 1: Laura Norton, what more can you tell me. We also 676 00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,920 Speaker 1: looked into various people who would have been part of 677 00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,880 Speaker 1: the twins lives, gathered information on them and passed that 678 00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,840 Speaker 1: along to law enforcement as well to Michael wheel And 679 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,200 Speaker 1: what do you make of it? Well, at the moment, 680 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,000 Speaker 1: it's just really hard to overlook, you know, how many 681 00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,959 Speaker 1: leads there were, how many suspects that police should have investigated, 682 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,080 Speaker 1: but they spent twenty three years not following up on 683 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,840 Speaker 1: any of them. So, like Lauren Brooke have painted that 684 00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,960 Speaker 1: there was, you know, the connection to Joseph Patrick Washington, 685 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,360 Speaker 1: who was a serial rapist that lived, you know, in 686 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:31,279 Speaker 1: the neighborhood, But there were so many different, you know, 687 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:35,160 Speaker 1: serial offenders that lived in the surrounding area and none 688 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:39,839 Speaker 1: of them were really investigated. And it's just right now 689 00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:44,520 Speaker 1: I'm looking at some cases from around the vicinity of 690 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,480 Speaker 1: where the twins lived, and it's like you said, it's 691 00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:51,200 Speaker 1: just hard not to get frustrated with how much how 692 00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,839 Speaker 1: much is out there to be investigated and police did 693 00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,200 Speaker 1: none of it. For those of you that are hearing 694 00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:01,440 Speaker 1: our public police for information on the disappearance of these 695 00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:08,120 Speaker 1: two girls, Jeanette and Danette Millbrook, Please contact Crime online 696 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:13,600 Speaker 1: dot Com tip line nine zero nine four nine to 697 00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:20,400 Speaker 1: seven four six three nine zero nine four nine to 698 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:27,120 Speaker 1: seven four six three nine zero nine four nine Crime 699 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:34,080 Speaker 1: to Laura Norton, what is your fall Line podcast? Tip line? 700 00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:38,239 Speaker 1: Our tip line is that four zero four five nine 701 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:44,400 Speaker 1: zero two n and Michael Wheeling with The Unresolved Podcast. Michael, 702 00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,080 Speaker 1: do you have a tip line? What is it? Yes? 703 00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:50,600 Speaker 1: I do. It is eight three one two zero zero 704 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:56,200 Speaker 1: three five zero Laura Norton with fall Line Podcast. Is 705 00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,520 Speaker 1: it true that you have actually managed to raise thousands 706 00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:03,440 Speaker 1: of dollars? Yes, our listeners have raised eight thousand dollars, 707 00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:07,080 Speaker 1: which the Sheriff's office told Shawntay's family they would announce. 708 00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,680 Speaker 1: They have now declined to announce it. So now we 709 00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:13,200 Speaker 1: are once again crowdsourcing to raise enough money for a billboard. 710 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:17,240 Speaker 1: I don't understand why am I even paying tax dollars 711 00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,920 Speaker 1: if they won't even announce the reward you guys managed 712 00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:26,480 Speaker 1: to scrape up. Take a listen to this. Both cases 713 00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:30,360 Speaker 1: are started through private funding UM, and then we locate 714 00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:34,040 Speaker 1: funding to try to match that case UM based on 715 00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:38,360 Speaker 1: the level of commitment that someone is already done. It's 716 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,759 Speaker 1: so much stuff that has been said and done over 717 00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:47,120 Speaker 1: the years. It just upsets me to the point I'd 718 00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:50,880 Speaker 1: be won to cururse, you know, but I refrained from it. 719 00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,560 Speaker 1: Um when we went to go meet him, we was thinking, 720 00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,239 Speaker 1: you know, he said he wanted to treat um the 721 00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,680 Speaker 1: case if it was his own family. So I'm like, 722 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:02,840 Speaker 1: this is how you treat them. I want to be 723 00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:06,040 Speaker 1: in your family because it's crazy. You said you was 724 00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,359 Speaker 1: gonna help us, but now of a sudden we get 725 00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,359 Speaker 1: the reward money, which I think he didn't think that 726 00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,359 Speaker 1: we were gonna be able to get it. I think 727 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,000 Speaker 1: that's what it was. And now that we got it, 728 00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,879 Speaker 1: even if they can't master the reward, all we want 729 00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,400 Speaker 1: them to do is announce it. I had to go 730 00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:25,479 Speaker 1: out here and put up flyers with reward on there 731 00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,640 Speaker 1: by myself. You know. I got a Facebook page up 732 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,560 Speaker 1: with my sister and them owner, asking people you know, 733 00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,279 Speaker 1: in the community to come out. But I think had 734 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,680 Speaker 1: the Richmond County got some involvement in it and announced 735 00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:39,560 Speaker 1: it on the news, maybe I would have had more 736 00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,200 Speaker 1: people to come out to help. But then nobody to 737 00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,040 Speaker 1: show up but me and Mike, so I gave him 738 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,160 Speaker 1: some of the flyers and me and my kids went 739 00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:50,440 Speaker 1: out to put some of the flyers up and we 740 00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,839 Speaker 1: are planning an event on the eighteenth uh the anniversary 741 00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,640 Speaker 1: of their disappearance in March and AUGUSTA. Well, I know 742 00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:01,080 Speaker 1: this climb online will help as well. I I strongly 743 00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:05,520 Speaker 1: believe that the FBI needs to be involved in this 744 00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:11,920 Speaker 1: disappearance and the investigation of what went wrong. Within the 745 00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:19,359 Speaker 1: Richmond County Sheriff's office, Shante Sturgis was contacted by my 746 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,640 Speaker 1: mom and they told her they couldn't do anything to 747 00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:26,160 Speaker 1: help her because of the original investigator, see it they 748 00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:28,760 Speaker 1: had been found. Well, you know what, since that's not true, 749 00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:34,399 Speaker 1: maybe they can reconsider Nancy Grace crime stories. Signing off 750 00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:36,320 Speaker 1: goodbye friend,