1 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Bryce Harper and welcome to the Billy Show. 2 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: Ruben Tomorrow, Junior, Jim Salisbury, Todd Zolecki. 3 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 2: It's the Philly Show. 4 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 1: It's Friday, October third, twenty twenty five. The Phillies will 5 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: play the Los Angeles Dodgers in the twenty twenty five 6 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: National League Division Series. Game one is Saturday night at 7 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: Citizens Bank Park. It's time for the park's first pitch. 8 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: First pitch is brought to us exclusively by our partners 9 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: at Parks Casino, Pennsylvania's number one casino, like my dramatic 10 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: boy bro number one casino, trying to get dramatic for 11 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: the postseason. Guys, it's big, It's it's finally here. The 12 00:00:56,560 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: Phillies Dodgers. Dodgersmoke the Reds in two games at Dodger Stadium. 13 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: What are we thinking about this series? Fellas talking to 14 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: a couple of people today, Phillies fans, little nerves. Shohyo 15 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: Tani pitching a game when we'll get to him in 16 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: a bit, but just generally speaking, your thoughts. 17 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 2: Well, they have a long history in the postseason, back 18 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:28,479 Speaker 2: in the seventies, again during the Ruby Tomorrow front office 19 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 2: years and they're renewing old acquaintances. It feels like to me, 20 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 2: the World Series because I feel like there's a chance 21 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:45,199 Speaker 2: seasons the two best teams in all of baseball. Who knows, 22 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 2: maybe I'm wrong, right, but they feel like the two 23 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 2: best teams in Major League Baseball, and they're gonna slug 24 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 2: it out in the in the NLDS, the Dodgers are scary. 25 00:01:56,680 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 2: And here's why they treated the regular like it was 26 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 2: a layup drill, like it was a pregame stretch. And 27 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 2: they are challenging the old axiom that in baseball you 28 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 2: can't just flip the switch, because you know, they used 29 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 2: the regular season, they had injuries, they use it to 30 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 2: get their rotation healthy, to build up Otani, and they're 31 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 2: really in September, they had a really good offense. They're 32 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 2: pitching is healthy, their rotation is healthy, and it appears 33 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 2: they have flipped the switch by steam rolling the Cincinnati Reds, 34 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 2: though hey, the Red's backed in not really ready for 35 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 2: prime time team. But nonetheless, the Dodgers look like a 36 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 2: team that's clicking on all cylinders. Their rotation is fantastic, 37 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 2: and you know they're bullpens a question mark, but oh 38 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 2: by the way. Maybe they found a closer in Roki Sasaki. 39 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 2: Dangerous team, but you know what, Philly's been waiting for 40 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 2: this all year long. They didn't treat the regular season 41 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 2: as a layup drill. They get after it played well, 42 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 2: ninety six wins. It was a lot to like about 43 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 2: the Phillies too, and I love the fact that they 44 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 2: have the first two games at home and you know, 45 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 2: get it on. 46 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 3: Won't be easy. 47 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 4: This is the matchup that I think that everybody knew 48 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 4: was going to happen at some point. I had the 49 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 4: feeling and at some point, whether it was going to 50 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 4: be in the NLCS or whether it's good being in 51 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 4: the NLDS, this was going to. 52 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 3: Happen, and it's happening. 53 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 4: And it's sort of unfortunate that it's just a five 54 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 4: game series because it as it has to be a knockdown, 55 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 4: drag out. 56 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 5: I have a feeling in the next CBA that there 57 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 5: might be a chance to shorten up the season and 58 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 5: maybe expand this particular level. I'm not sure if that's 59 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 5: going to happen, but it sure. 60 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 3: Seems like it should be in some ways so you 61 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 3: can really find out which teams are the best ones. 62 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 3: Going into the next series to the NLCS that said, 63 00:03:58,120 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 3: it's going to be a tough one because. 64 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 4: Uh, and the guys that are pitching against them are 65 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 4: gonna be tough. 66 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 3: The guys that are pitching for the Phillies are gonna 67 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 3: be tough. It's two of. 68 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 4: The best teams in baseball, I believe, and Uh, I think. 69 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 3: It's gonna be really exciting. I really do. Uh. 70 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 4: There's gonna be some nerves in that in those stands, 71 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 4: but uh, they those nerves can be squelched if the 72 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 4: Phillies get out to an early lead. 73 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 3: We'll see what happens. You gotta get the crowd into it, 74 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 3: not nervous, but into. 75 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 4: It, and hopefully, Uh, they played good, solid, fundamentally strong baseball. 76 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think Otani pitching Game one at Citizens Bank Park, 77 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: I get it. He's great, But man, how much fun 78 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: could that be? In your right rubin they at the 79 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: Phillies could somehow scratch across a couple of runs in 80 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: the first couple of innings against a guy like Otani. 81 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: The crowd is gonna get into it. 82 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 3: You know. 83 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: The Phillies they played well against the Dodgers in the 84 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 1: regular season this season and last season. I don't know 85 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: if that means anything. It doesn't. Maybe it does, maybe 86 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: it doesn't, probably doesn't. I don't know. It's the postseason. 87 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: But they were four and two against the Dodgers this year. 88 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: They're nine to three against the Dodgers the last two 89 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:25,239 Speaker 1: seasons in the regular season, so they played well against them. Again, 90 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 1: totally different. I get it. The postseason is totally different. 91 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: But I do think this is a great series. I 92 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: was saying the same thing that you guys said today. 93 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: I was talking with Ricky bow And on ninety seventy 94 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: five and I said, I just wish this was a 95 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: seven game series, same thing you guys said. I feel 96 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 1: like this should be an NLCS matchup. I think that 97 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: these two teams right now, the way they're playing, maybe 98 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: the best two teams in baseball. No disrespect to the 99 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 1: Milwaukee Brewers, but heck of a matchup and it is 100 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: going to be a lot of fun. 101 00:05:58,760 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 3: Hey. 102 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 2: That was first pitch, presented exclusively by our partners at 103 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 2: Parks Casino, Pennsylvania's number one casino. Parkscasino dot Com is 104 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 2: the website. 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Now, 112 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: full disclosure, we're recording this on Thursday night before the 113 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 1: Yankees and Red Sox game, and so we don't know 114 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: if this game is at six oh eight. We don't 115 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: know if the games at six thirty eight, but it 116 00:06:58,000 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 1: will be in the six o'clock hour and it will 117 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: be show. 118 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 3: Well I do jim it will be showing shadows. 119 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my gosh, no shadows shows. 120 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 3: That's totally other thing. That's another whole element of this. 121 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 3: No shadows for these games. 122 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 4: And that's important because at least it gives the hitters 123 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 4: a chance against these two pitchers because. 124 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 3: They're both swing and miss pitchers. 125 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: Absolutely, so you know this shadow. So you got Christopher Sanchez, who, 126 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: if I had to put money on it, is going 127 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: to finish second for the nl CY Young Award behind 128 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: Paul Skeins. That's my prediction. You have show Heyo Tani 129 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: only the greatest player in baseball right now. Some people 130 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: say maybe the best ever. I don't know. I didn't 131 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: see Babe Ruth play, but he's pretty good. So what 132 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: do we think about this pitching matchup now? Last month 133 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: at Dodger Stadium, show Heyo Tani through five hitless, scoreless innings, 134 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: walked one five strikeouts. I want to run through some 135 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: of these numbers for you guys, just to give you 136 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: an idea what the Phillies are facing now. They had 137 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: never faced him before. Four seen fastball average ninety nine 138 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: point two miles an hour, touched one on one point seven. 139 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: He has a slider, a curveball, a sweeper, a sinker, 140 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: a cutter. He threw a one splitter, so he's he's 141 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: got it all. You know, he's got everything but a knuckleball. Really, 142 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: and the Phillies definitely struggled against him in that opener 143 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: or that game, I should say, at at Dodger Stadium. 144 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 2: He's going to be a bear. I mean, they they 145 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 2: you know, they kid gloved him all year, but he 146 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 2: kept building that workload, of building that workload and all 147 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 2: of a sudden. Now he's gotten deeper into games in September, 148 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 2: like fourteen to two thirds innings in September, zero runs. 149 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 2: I think he only allowed one run in like nineteen 150 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 2: innings over his final four starts. You're right, he's the 151 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 2: modern day Babe Ruth. And let's not forget Babe Ruth 152 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 2: was a great pitcher who would have won at least 153 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 2: one Cy Young Award if it was around in his day. 154 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 2: So you know, they have a chance to ride O'tawi far. 155 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 2: He has a chance to be a tone center against 156 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 2: you know, both offenses were pretty good in September. The 157 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 2: Philly struggled with runners in the scoring position last week. 158 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 2: But you know, I think maybe the what was off 159 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 2: the pedal a little bit in spots. But O Tony, 160 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 2: he's going to be a bear. But Christopher Sanchez has 161 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 2: a chance to be a bear against a very good 162 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 2: lineup as well. He's coming off a couple really great starts, 163 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 2: and you know his last thirty two starts at Citizens 164 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 2: Bank Park, look up the numbers. He's got like a 165 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 2: two and a half. The ra he has been great 166 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 2: and I think his confidence is high. Fan Appreciation Day Sunday, 167 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 2: had another good outing. But you know, this is a 168 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 2: different kind of pressure for Christopher Sanchez. I would think, uh, 169 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 2: he has pitched in the postseason before, but he's now 170 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 2: pitching Game one. He's now pitching as the team's ace. 171 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:09,319 Speaker 2: That's different. How he handles it will go a long 172 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 2: way to determining determining how they're doing Game one, and 173 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 2: we know how important Game one one is in a 174 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 2: short series, we. 175 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 3: Have no question about. 176 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 4: It's about controlling your emotions, and hopefully he can be 177 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 4: that guy to do that. Obviously it would typically be 178 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 4: Zach Wheeler's start, but this kid has matured tremendously. I 179 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 4: think he believes in the stuff. He's got the confidence 180 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 4: to do it again. You just don't know how emotional 181 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 4: he'll end up getting. Hopefully he can handle himself in 182 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 4: a mature way. He has been growing in front of 183 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 4: our eyes from just a babe to a stud pitcher. 184 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 4: And really impressed by what he's done as a pitcher 185 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:52,559 Speaker 4: over the last several years. 186 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 3: Or the last couple of years. He's grown up in 187 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 3: leaps and bounds. 188 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 4: I will say this, one of the things that I 189 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 4: was really impressed by with Otani was his ability to 190 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 4: throw strikes with all of his stuff, and that's a concern. 191 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 4: I do like the fact that the team has actually 192 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 4: seen him throw, they've seen him pitch, they faced him, and. 193 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 3: That is important. And I remember saying it. 194 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 4: During the broadcast that even though he was dealing, at 195 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 4: the very least they get a chance to see the 196 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 4: ball come out of his hand. They can react to 197 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 4: it and know the spins and understand what's happening with 198 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 4: the baseball when it comes out. 199 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 3: Of his hand. Doesn't mean that they're going to have 200 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 3: success against him, but. 201 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 4: At least they've seen it and had some level of 202 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 4: understanding of what they're going to face. Phillies did end 203 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 4: up winning that game between he and I guess it 204 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 4: was on the sixteenth of September. 205 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 3: They came back and won the ball game and beat 206 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 3: up their their bullpen that day. 207 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 4: But listen, this is different, and I will say this, 208 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 4: the postseason is a totally different anem And if you 209 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 4: don't execute, and if you don't play good baseball, you 210 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 4: see what's happened. 211 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 3: In the other series so far. 212 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 6: Base running issues, making mistakes, misplays, not backing up you 213 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 6: know the appropriate spots, not being able to move a runner, 214 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 6: not being able to get in bunted down, getting a 215 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,719 Speaker 6: bunt down, and how the difference, how it changes all 216 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 6: of a sudden, It's amazing. 217 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 4: You actually have to play baseball again. And I think 218 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 4: that the Phillies have done a pretty good job of 219 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 4: actually playing baseball, doing some bunning, doing some of the 220 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 4: small things, trying to move a runner. 221 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 3: From time to time. 222 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 4: They have struggled with runners in scoring position at times, 223 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 4: and that's a concern. But you have to play clean 224 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 4: baseball to be a champion, and hopefully they can do that. 225 00:12:57,559 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 4: And if you're not playing clean baseball, then you're better 226 00:12:59,920 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 4: be lucky and get a couple of hanging breaking balls 227 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 4: and hit out of the ballpark. 228 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 3: Otherwise you're going to be in a tough spot. 229 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: So what like the the game plan for Otani? Like, 230 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: what do you think Kevin long and is hitting staff 231 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 1: is going to ask the hitters because I feel like 232 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: a lot of times you hear this right or maybe 233 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: in the outside you can go all right with Otani. 234 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 1: You just want him to try to run his pitch 235 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: count up and then try to get into that Dodgers' bullpen. 236 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: But he throws a lot of strikes, so then a 237 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: lot of times you see guys be really aggressive early 238 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: in the count, right, and you're going, why are they 239 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 1: doing They're not working the count, but they're like, well, 240 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: you got to be aggressive early in the count because 241 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: if you're one in two or two against this guy, 242 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: you're screwed. So I don't know what the answer. I 243 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: don't know if there is an answer, really, but it's 244 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 1: it's I don't know. You know, it's gonna be fascinating 245 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 1: to see what kind of game, how they try to 246 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: attack him, what the game plan is to beat him. 247 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 2: If he's over the plate early in the count. I 248 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 2: think you've got to be ready to hit. You've got 249 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 2: to be ready to hit, because it's he gets ahead 250 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 2: and starts going you know, five and six deep. Like 251 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 2: Rubin said, he throws everything for strikes. So it's a 252 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 2: it's a difficult, difficult challenge. 253 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 4: And yeah, if I'm facing him, if I'm in the box, 254 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 4: I'm looking for a fastball. If I get a fastball 255 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 4: to hit or something that's up in the zone, a 256 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 4: breaking pitch that's up on the zone, I'm going to 257 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 4: have to be aggressive on it early because you get 258 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 4: to two strikes and now you're you're talking about six 259 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 4: different pitches. 260 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 3: You can't eliminate anything. Then you're just looking for baseball. 261 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 3: And so you know, I think I think you're right, Jim. 262 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 4: I think you have to be sort of aggressive in 263 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 4: the early part of the count and aggressive in the 264 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 4: strike zone all early part of the season. 265 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 3: This is that they talked about. 266 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 4: This is what they sort of prime themselves for to 267 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 4: make good swing decisions early in the count, right, And 268 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 4: so they suffered a little bit with their power in 269 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 4: the early part of the season as a result of this, 270 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 4: Now they got a little bit better with their power. 271 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 4: Obviously a lot better with their power, and we're swinging 272 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 4: more freely, more athletically later on in the game in 273 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 4: the season, because I think that their thought process got better, 274 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 4: their ability to distinguish hittable pitches from non hittable pitches 275 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 4: got better, and they had a lot of success. Will 276 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 4: that happen in a postseason. I hope it does, because 277 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 4: if it can, they'll have a lot of success. If not, 278 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 4: it'll be tough because they've got great pitchers that are 279 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 4: pitching against him, that have. 280 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 3: Swing and miss stuff. 281 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 7: Blake Snell as absolutely filthy. It'll filter day night off 282 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 7: speed stuff. He has a great change up and excellent 283 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 7: curveballs and sliders almost unhittable. So how do you combat 284 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 7: that swing at strikes and swing at the fastball. When 285 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 7: you get that pitch to hit, you got to make 286 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 7: good hard content. 287 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 2: It would have been great if the Reds have squeezed 288 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 2: out one win because now they would have to use 289 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 2: show Hey in Game three and you wouldn't have seen 290 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 2: him in Game one tone setter. You would have seen 291 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 2: him later in the series maybe, So that was that 292 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 2: was big them going, you know, hosting that series and 293 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 2: getting the sweep. We had Kevin Long on the show 294 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 2: the other day. He was fascinating, in my opinion, one 295 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 2: of our favorite. To me, one of the best interviews 296 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 2: we've had, one of the best shows we've had. I 297 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 2: would encourage anybody to go back and listen to that 298 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 2: Phillies hitting coach Kevin Long. But he was talking about 299 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 2: how you know they have the machines in the cage 300 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 2: where they can plug in that night's starter and get 301 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 2: all his velocities, his entire pitch repertoire, all his locations, 302 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 2: all his spin rates, and I have to imagine the 303 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 2: Philly has been doing a lot of watching of a 304 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 2: virtual whatever you want to call it show. Hey o Tani, Rightah, the. 305 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 4: Traject system does a really good job of being able 306 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 4: to simulate the spin rates and the spin and all 307 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 4: that stuff. 308 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 3: And uh, I mean. 309 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 4: All you can try to do is simulate as much 310 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 4: as you possibly can and and go from there. 311 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 1: Didn't didn't Kevin also say that they'll juice up that 312 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 1: machine like one oh five. Yeah, I mean you kind 313 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: of have to write. I mean, if you want to 314 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: hit velo, you might as well step up in the 315 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: box an extra step and crank it up to one 316 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: o five and just you know, so bad. 317 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 3: You actually make it feel like it's slowed down in 318 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 3: the game. If you actually go ahead and make it, 319 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 3: you know, the velocity is harder and faster just to 320 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 3: track it and see it. 321 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 4: Because then in real time you actually see the arm 322 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 4: motion and it's a little bit different. You have a 323 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 4: better timing mechanism than you do with the traject machine. 324 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 4: It's simpler because the video comes out with the arm action, 325 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 4: but you don't actually see. 326 00:17:55,520 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 3: The arm work. Right. But hey, the as much simulation 327 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 3: as you can possibly do, it's a positive and hopefully 328 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 3: the boys can make the proper adjustments when need be. 329 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 1: I would just like to see, you know, for Phil 330 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: you know, Philly's fans would love to see this. I 331 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: would just love to see Otani get in a little 332 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: bit of trouble early in the game, just to kind 333 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: of see the crowd reaction. I would love to see. 334 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 1: I would love to see if they could Bert hooton 335 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: him a little bit. I don't think. I feel like 336 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: Otani is just like a robot almost. He's like a 337 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: super human. I don't think. I don't think he could 338 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: be Burt Hooten. But you know, I think the fans 339 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 1: got under cc sabathist skin in game two of the 340 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight and LDS. You never know, we've 341 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 1: seen it happen. We've seen it happen. So I think 342 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: that would just be a fun atmosphere. I know people 343 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: are going to the game. They're like, oh, Tania, I said, no, no, 344 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:54,479 Speaker 1: you should be going, Oh, this is going to be 345 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: great show, hey Otani. You know, especially if they get 346 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: on him early, it's going to be it could be 347 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: we forget. 348 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 4: The Philly fan really does believe that they can impact 349 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 4: the game, and I'm sure they'll be trying exactly. 350 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 1: And you know our friend Charlie Manuel, he always he 351 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: always liked to uh to quote one of his favorite 352 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: people of all time, Rick Flair, he said, to be 353 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: the man. You gotta beat the man. 354 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 3: That's right. 355 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: So joey Otani he is the man. 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We know kyleege Ford and 385 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: Bryce Harper. You know, uh, Trey Turner. I mean Trey 386 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: Turner maybe with the hamstring he co'd say, I don't know. 387 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: I'm not telling you guys who to pick. I'm just 388 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,640 Speaker 1: wondering if you guys have any X fact, I'll give 389 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: you my X factor. I'll start it off Jim Ruben, 390 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Oriyan Kirkring. I'm gonna say O'Ryan Kirkering 391 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: because Oryan Kirkering really struggled down the stretch. He had 392 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: two good appearances at the end of the season, including 393 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: that last one strikes out the side scoreless inning. We 394 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 1: talk a lot about the Dodgers' bullpen and how shaky 395 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 1: it is, and the Phillies bullpen really should line up 396 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: nicely with Juwan de Roun. But if they could get 397 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:49,880 Speaker 1: a good version of Ryan Kirkring in the sixth inning, 398 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: in the seventh inning, however it lines up, man, that 399 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 1: would go a long way for this bullpen because in 400 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: the postseason, we know this, the way the game has 401 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 1: evolved over time, You're probably not going to see Sanchez, 402 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: Suarez and Lozardo going into the seventh inning going seven 403 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: to the third, seven to That'd be great, That'd be 404 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: great if it happened, but probably won't happen at least 405 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 1: in one of those games. So if you could get 406 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 1: a dominant Orian Kirkring and then you can get the 407 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 1: ball to Strom and maybe face Otani, maybe face Freddy 408 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: Freeman in the eighth or however it lines up, that 409 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 1: would be absolutely huge. So that's my X factor for 410 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 1: this series. Is Orian kirk Ring. 411 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 2: Solid good one. I think I would go. I think 412 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 2: you could have the entire alphabet you know of X factors. 413 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 2: But I think it's important that the Phillies don't have 414 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 2: like a strikeout of Thon offensively and put the ball 415 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 2: in play. I'm going to say in that vein Alec 416 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 2: Bohm becomes very important to me. He's a guy that 417 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 2: can hit for some contact. He may hit behind Harper, 418 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 2: and I think it's important that he become a tough 419 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 2: out and be a tough out and put the ball 420 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,719 Speaker 2: in play and not strike out. So Harper sees some pitches. 421 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 2: So I don't know what he's gonna do with the 422 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 2: what Rob's gonna do with the bomb Bader, real, mudo 423 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 2: triumvir at, who's going to hit there at four? But 424 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 2: whoever does is going to be essential, and I think 425 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 2: Bom might have the ingredients to be there. And you 426 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 2: can't have high strikeout games. And this is a very 427 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 2: talented fire loaded with firepower Dodgers starting pitching staff. That's 428 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 2: not a good mix when you strike out a lot. 429 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 2: So Phillies need to have a lot of good at 430 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 2: bats and I think Boom becomes important in that in 431 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 2: that way, So I'm gonna. 432 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 4: Cheat a little bit here and I'm gonna have a 433 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 4: double X factor, and I think it's gonna be I 434 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 4: think one of the things that really made the team 435 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 4: they nicely at the end of the season was the 436 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 4: depth of the of the lineup. That the guys at 437 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 4: the top part of the lineup, you know, you sort 438 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 4: of they are going to do what they they're going 439 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 4: to do. But if you get big at bats and 440 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 4: base hits with marsh and Stott, who are probably going 441 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 4: to hit somewhere between six and nine in that lineup, 442 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 4: if you can get that those guys on base, particularly 443 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 4: Stop to roll. 444 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 3: That lineup over. 445 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 4: He has the ability to get some big hits and 446 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 4: make good contact in front of tournament, then you have 447 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 4: a chance to have some real action on the basis 448 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 4: you make it super difficult and lengthy and you put 449 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 4: the stress on the pitcher that way. And I think 450 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 4: having those two guys Stot in particular, it's a little 451 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 4: different to have Stop back there as opposed to Johann Rojas, 452 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 4: for instance, because you. 453 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 5: Got a lot different at bats out of that guy 454 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,360 Speaker 5: than you were going to get out of Johann. 455 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 3: So he's going to be my little X factor. I 456 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 3: am a big a. 457 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 4: Fan of his of Stotts, and I believe that he's 458 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 4: gotten to the point where not only is in the 459 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,120 Speaker 4: right space with his hands, but is in the right 460 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 4: space with his mental makeup. 461 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 3: I love the player. I think he's going to be 462 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 3: a big factor in this series. 463 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 2: Especially the way he swung in the last two months 464 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 2: after making that adjustment. Kevin Long talked about that adjustment 465 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 2: and how he wanted him to, you know, get the 466 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 2: ball in the air to the pull side, but you know, 467 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 2: keep it down and keep it low to the to 468 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 2: the off field, and Scott was struggling with it. Kevin 469 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 2: Long said to. 470 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 3: Him, do you really want to hit two thirty five? 471 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 3: A great question. 472 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 4: That's all I saw in the Cleveland Guardians lineup, nothing 473 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 4: but two thirties and eighteens and two twenties. 474 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 3: It's really amazing. 475 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead, go jam No, you can, said Tom, 476 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I was just it was just really amazing 477 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: the Guardians got that far with that lineup. 478 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 3: He just sextordinary. It's a great effort by Stephen Botman and. 479 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 4: My man the train, Carl Willis, who is their pitching coach. 480 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 3: I think they did a hell of a job of 481 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 3: even getting into the playoffs and. 482 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 2: Ate it a little bit by unbelievable swan dive by 483 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 2: swan dive by the Tigers, who have writed themselves a 484 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 2: little a little bit in the first round. But I 485 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 2: wanted to pose a question something I've been thinking a 486 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 2: lot about and Rubin you kind of touched on it 487 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:33,479 Speaker 2: a little bit saying, you know, you got to keep 488 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 2: the nerves out of it. Todd you touched on a 489 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 2: little bit by wondering if they could ever get out 490 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 2: o Tani early and really get that crowd into it. 491 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 2: And you know, when things don't go right, and we 492 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 2: talked about this with Boa last week, when things don't 493 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 2: go right, the crowd gets quiet and tight. Everybody gets tight. 494 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 2: You can feel it. And in that kind of extending that, 495 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 2: I think I don't think there's ever been more pressure 496 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 2: on a Phillies team in one hundred and forty three 497 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 2: years of competition than this one. I think the pressure 498 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 2: on this team is more than any other Phillies team, 499 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 2: including the eleven team. 500 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 3: The eleven team had one hundred. 501 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 2: And two wins, had a bad week against Saint Louis, 502 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 2: got knocked out, but there were enough guys on that 503 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 2: team that had won to oh eight and that kind 504 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 2: of cushioned their fall. Nineteen eighty had enormous pressure, enormous 505 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 2: three divisions. Ruley went in and said he's going to 506 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 2: break up the team. They ended up winning. They responded 507 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 2: to that huge pressure, But they didn't have a monstrous 508 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 2: payroll like there are these days, like the Phillies are 509 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:44,160 Speaker 2: carrying this year, and they certainly the fans were different then. 510 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 2: There was no social media, the players didn't grow up 511 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 2: in the social media age. Here in every bit of 512 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 2: disappointment and sometimes harsh, harsh criticism and even personal stuff, 513 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 2: I just think, and now this team is big payrolls, 514 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 2: record payrolls over the luxury tax, been there three years 515 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 2: in a row, star studied roster, two three hundred million 516 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 2: dollar guys and an agent core. I just think it's 517 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 2: created a massive amount of pressure on this particular Phillies team, 518 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 2: the most maybe on any team ever with the Phillies, 519 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 2: and how they respond and handle that pressure is gonna 520 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 2: go a long way to determine how this month goes. 521 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 2: Am I off base. 522 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 4: I don't think you're off base at all, And I 523 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 4: think this is where you know and there's no criticism 524 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 4: as to how. 525 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 3: Rob Thompson runs this this ball club, and I don't 526 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 3: have that criticism. 527 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 4: People say that he's too mild mannered, and he's too chill, 528 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 4: and he's too well. I think that his overall demeanor 529 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 4: helped that whole process. 530 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 3: He believes in his guys. 531 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 4: He lets them play, he trusts them to do their jobs, 532 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 4: and he stays positive with them. 533 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 3: And I think that's all he can do because at. 534 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 4: The end of the day, he might be able to 535 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 4: make one or two moves in the bullpen or what 536 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 4: have you with a pinch hitter. But the reality of 537 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 4: it is the boys have to play, and if they 538 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 4: played free and easy and with joy like Charlie Manuel 539 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 4: was a master at being able to bring out of 540 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 4: his players, then they have. 541 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 3: A chance to go along all the way. 542 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, Dave Dombrowski kind of touched on that 543 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: the other day. He was asked, do you see this 544 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: is almost like a last dance, last rass situation? So yeah, 545 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: for sure, we can see some losing some guys. So 546 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: obviously he knows that. Everybody knows that. But yeah, I 547 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,239 Speaker 1: do think there's pressure on this team, and you're right, 548 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: I think the twenty eleven team, they felt pressure, but 549 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 1: when that season ended as crushing as it was, they 550 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: all thought that they were going to be good again 551 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: the next year and keep it going for a couple 552 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: of why would run But I mean, why wouldn't you 553 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 1: have Like, you know, obviously Ryan Howard blows out his achilles, 554 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: and you know Chase had his issues. But you're sitting 555 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: there going, we still got Roy Hall, They've got Cliff Lee, 556 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: We've got Cole Hamill's you know, uh, you know, we 557 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:20,479 Speaker 1: we we've we've got all these young players or all 558 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: these all these good players. Still you had no reason 559 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: to think that they were not going to be able 560 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: to repeat. So there was a crushing disappointment for sure, 561 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,719 Speaker 1: but not not this sort of massive pressure like if 562 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: we don't win it this year, we're we're done. But 563 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 1: now you have if we don't win it this year, 564 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: make Kyle Schwarber thinks the grass might be a little 565 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 1: greener somewhere. I don't know, maybe JT. Real Mutto's has 566 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 1: less of it. 567 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 3: You know, I'm not going to. 568 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: Think two year deal. I can get a four year 569 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: deal here, you know, Rangers. So there's all those different factors. 570 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: I do think there's pressure, and I do think that 571 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: if they do get down early, you're going to see 572 00:30:58,640 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: some clinched. 573 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 6: I think. 574 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 4: Yes, But you also have to remember this has been 575 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 4: one of the most resilient teams in the world. 576 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 9: They looked like crap one day and they and they 577 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 9: literally are out of it, and then they'll bounce back 578 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 9: like it never happened before, and they bounce back and 579 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 9: play a good game of baseball. 580 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 3: It really, again, the pro postseason really is a crap. 581 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 4: Shoot, and it will be against the Dodgers because the 582 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 4: Dodgers are such a talented team. But hey, you just 583 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 4: got to play good baseball and try to enjoy yourself 584 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 4: because it's this is the fun time. This is why 585 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 4: you play sports for the postseason, to get an opportunity 586 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 4: to put yourself in this position. And they have. 587 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 1: So whatever, what's our predictions, let's close on that. What 588 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 1: are we predicting. 589 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 3: I'm gonna say Phillies. I'm gonna stay Phillies in five. 590 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 4: I do have fear that that uh that that the 591 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 4: Dodgers are rolling really strong right now, but I do 592 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 4: feel like the Phillies will stay in it. 593 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 3: And I'll say Phillies in five I'm. 594 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 2: Going Phillies in five. They come home and they they 595 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 2: went it in front of the home crowd, and the 596 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 2: home crowd is give them that kick they need. Yeah, 597 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 2: And I'm predicting a great series that people are gonna 598 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 2: come away from saying that felt like the World Series. 599 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: I agree with you, guys. I was gonna say Phillies 600 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 1: in five, and so I will say Phillies in five, 601 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: same thing. I think it's gonna be crazy. People are 602 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: gonna be losing their mind. We're gonna be trying to 603 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 1: talk people off a ledge a couple of times over 604 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: the next week. Right, we're gonna get on in the morning. 605 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 1: People are gonna be freaking out because something didn't happen. 606 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 4: Right. 607 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: But ultimately, I think I think the Phillies. I think 608 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: that the most well rounded team I do. I think 609 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: if you can get into that Dodgers' bullpen, and I 610 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 1: know Sasaki in the ninth inning, he's looked, he's looked 611 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 1: really good, and maybe he can keep that up. 612 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 3: But never a CVP in Red October, my friend. 613 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: Great point, Ruben, great point, great point. 614 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 3: Get in it. 615 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 2: Maybe he'll go, maybe he'll go to Jonathan Broxton for 616 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 2: some advice. 617 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: They should bring j Roll in and Matt Steers in 618 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 1: the They could have played that on the Loop. 619 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 2: They could have played that on the Loop. 620 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 1: Two of the most all time moments for me covering 621 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: this team. Oh my god, jim I was sitting next 622 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 1: to you in the press box at Dodger Stadium with 623 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 1: stairs set one deep into the night. 624 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 2: And that place went hushed quiet. All you could hear 625 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 2: was like, you know, the Phillies front office, like free 626 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:33,719 Speaker 2: boxes over going crazy. 627 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 3: That was me, That was Ruby, That was me. I 628 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 3: literally had I'm not lying to you. 629 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 2: In the box. And the next year with the with 630 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 2: the Jimmy double or whatever, it was a double right. 631 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 3: Jumped on top of my desk in. 632 00:33:52,800 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 2: The rayle OTAs in the shower to Scott Francis twitter clip. 633 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was all time. 634 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 2: Whoever did that just serves an Academy award. 635 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 1: Absolutely, that was fantastic. Well, maybe there will be some 636 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,359 Speaker 1: of those moments this week if you haven't checked out 637 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,839 Speaker 1: some of our episodes the past week, We've had Ryan 638 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 1: Howard on, Larry Boa, Kevin Long, Dusty watthaon, and Pennsylvania 639 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 1: Governor Josh Shapiro, which was a lot of fun. 640 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,280 Speaker 3: All those guys. 641 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: I mean, so much great stuff. The behind the scenes 642 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,320 Speaker 1: stuff that Dusty gave is just the prep work that 643 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 1: goes into being a third base coach. How they get 644 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: videos of the visiting ballparks, and how you have a 645 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: four minute video, two three four minute video, and just 646 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 1: watching balls ricochet off the wall so he can get 647 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 1: an idea of what might be coming. It's just cool stuff. Man. 648 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 1: If you love baseball check, you've got to check out 649 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 1: those shows. They were a blast. So we will be 650 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 1: back on Sunday to talk about what happened in Game 651 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 1: one of the National League Division Series. 652 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 2: Can't wait. 653 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:05,919 Speaker 3: Smell your later, boys, Smell you Jim. 654 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 1: The Philly Show is brought to you by the Foul 655 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 1: Territory Network. Subscribe to The Philly Show on YouTube and 656 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts.