1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening. For earlier access to these episodes, access 2 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: to Ask Me Anything, sessions, and extended breakdowns of historical 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: and current events, Please consider joining our Warning Premium community 4 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: by clicking the link in the description to this episode. 5 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:21,799 Speaker 1: It is most important in this hour of American crisis 6 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: to think ahead, to look out over the horizon, towards 7 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:30,159 Speaker 1: the day when this rancid era has ended, when it 8 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: becomes the subject of study, when historians evaluate this period 9 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 1: and wonder, how is it that America's democracy entered such 10 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: crisis at a time of relative peace and prosperity. How 11 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 1: is it that the demagogue rose? How is it that 12 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: so many tens of millions became faithless towards American democracy 13 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: that has been sustained through sacrifices that beggar the imagination. 14 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: How could it be that so many Americans that stand 15 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: tall when the flag passes by, that take their hats 16 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: off when the national anthem is sung. How could it 17 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: be that so many of those people became so disconnected 18 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: to the idea and ideals of the country that they 19 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 1: would lose sight of the fact that everything is sustained 20 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 1: by the choice and the birthright of the American people 21 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: to sustain their leaders. When the moment comes that historians 22 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: study this era, what they will be drawn to is 23 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 1: the billion dollar conflict industry towards the media of this era, 24 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: towards Laura Ingram and Tucker Carlson, towards Fox News and 25 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: Rupert Murdoch, towards the Eric Bowlings of the world. He 26 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: sat down for an interview with Donald Trump. Eric Bowling, 27 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,559 Speaker 1: of course, was fired from Fox News, like trump soon 28 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: to be daughter in law Kimberly Guilfoyle, who was also 29 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: fired for sexual misconduct, which seems to be the fate 30 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: of most of Fox News' hosts over time. At any rate, 31 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: Eric Bowling sat down with Donald Trump. The Trump performance 32 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: is predictable, unhinged, deranged. He attacks Prosecutor Jack Smith, and 33 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: he attacks Prosecutor Fannie Willis, the Atlanta District Attorney. With 34 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: regard to Fannie Willis, the attacks are overtly racist. It 35 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: turns out, at least according to Trump, that Fanny Willis's 36 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: father may have been a black panther God forbid forty 37 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 1: years ago. It would certainly disqualify her from prosecuting the 38 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: former president for trying to overthrow the election. In the 39 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: State of Georgia. In twenty twenty three, Eric Bowling also 40 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: smears the district attorney by intimating that she's been sexually 41 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: involved with Atlantic gang members. Remember the district attorney in 42 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 1: Atlanta is the chief law enforcement officer of the city, 43 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: and she is being smeared, smeared by two white men 44 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: a black woman as sexually promiscuous as being involved with 45 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: gang members with criminals. Donald Trump is desperate and the 46 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: right wing media is frightened. Watching Donald Trump has become tedious, boring. 47 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: It explains the ratings collapse of so much of the 48 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: news media. It's simply hard to watch. There's nothing new 49 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: to be said. Yet there are things that must be said. 50 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: Don't watch Donald Trump in this interview. Watch Eric Bowling, 51 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: watch the interviewer to appreciate fully the scale of the 52 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 1: dishonesty in this era. The next question Jack Smith Biden 53 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 1: gets Mark Garland to get Jack Smith to do with 54 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: these investigations of you drange. She's like a deranged human being. 55 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: I watched this guy tell you what's his motivation? I 56 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 1: think I think it's just a sick guy. A He's 57 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: like a deranged individual. And I think we're doing very 58 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: well with that guy, but he is he's a sick puppy. 59 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: Fannie willis the prosecutor in Georgia. They're setting up barricades 60 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: outside the Terrible, Terrible. They're in preparation. Obviously, I would 61 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: assume for an indictment. What are your thoughts of her, 62 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: because there's some discussion that she may have some questionable background. 63 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: You know, there's some her father may or man, I've 64 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: been in Black Panther. I think that was discussed. She's 65 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: had perhaps incorrect relationships with some of the people, some 66 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 1: of the gang members that she's also prosecuting. Right now, 67 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: can she give you a fair shape? No, of course. 68 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 1: This woman is not a capable woman. She's a woman 69 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,799 Speaker 1: that has I mean, and maybe she'll change her mind. 70 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: And I don't know what she's doing. I really don't know. 71 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: Donald Trump in this interview is a frightened man. But 72 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 1: let's unpack it again. Keep your eyes on Eric Bowling, 73 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: not on Donald Trump. There would be no Donald Trump 74 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: without the dishonesty of so many Eric Bowlings. The first 75 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: thing to appreciate is that Eric Bowling is sitting across 76 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:48,919 Speaker 1: from a man who lied to the American people, without argument, 77 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 1: without debate more than wait for it thirty five thousand 78 00:05:56,360 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 1: times during his presidency. He is, without any question, the 79 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: most prolific public liar in American history. But none of 80 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 1: that matters. The truth has come to stand equal with 81 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: the lie in American society because of the billion dollar 82 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: profits associated with lying. Eric Bowling appreciates this. He'll say anything, 83 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 1: He'll tell you anything, so long as he gets to 84 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 1: do it on a camera. There are no boundaries, there 85 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: are no borders. This is what propaganda looks like, and 86 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: specifically when it comes to Jack Smith, it's old school propaganda, 87 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: Soviet style, Nazi style. Most Americans don't have an appreciation 88 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 1: that political opposition an autocratic and to tolitarian societies is 89 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: always rooted in mental illness, mental defect. There is no 90 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: legitimate opposition. Thus there are no legitimate differences because there 91 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: are no legitimate differences of opinion, because freedom of speech 92 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: is suppressed, because freedom of conscience is suppressed, because the 93 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: human dignity of the human being is suppressed, there are 94 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: no basic rights. So when a human being strains towards freedom, 95 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: towards liberty, towards a recognition of their innate dignity, the 96 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: dictator always responds, always with the same message that yearning 97 00:07:55,920 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: for freedom is a sign of mental illness, of sickness. 98 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: And so what Donald Trump is doing is precisely with 99 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: a Pinochet or a Mussolini, or a Putin or a 100 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: Hitler would do. He is stigmatizing his opponents as mentally ill. 101 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: He is trying to say that the prosecutor who is 102 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: enforcing the law, who is standing for the people making 103 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: an accusation of a crime, is doing so as a 104 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 1: function of his mental illness. What is it that you 105 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 1: do with the mentally ill, in the criminally insane in 106 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 1: a ttalitarian society? What do you do in a ttalitarian 107 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 1: society with a defective people? You lock them up, you 108 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: throw away the key, you execute them. That's what you're 109 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: seeing here in this interview. It's on American, it's deliberate, 110 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: it's premeditated, and what it shows is a gathering storm danger, 111 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: a tide rising that is poisonous and deeply so. Anybody 112 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: who doesn't appreciate the threat level that has come to 113 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 1: rise from Donald Trump and the appeasement shown towards his 114 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: deranged behavior is deeply, deeply naive. Thank you for listening 115 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: to my political commentary. If you like what you've heard today, 116 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 1: please also consider subscribing to The Warning daily newsletter on 117 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: sub Stack. Our democracy hangs in the balance. 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Donald Trump 128 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:48,079 Speaker 1: has dominated America's culture and our society for eight long years. 129 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: Donald Trump has been ubiquitous in the faces of the 130 00:10:54,400 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: American people, smothering them, oppressing them with his presence, brought 131 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: to the American people on a constant, unrelenting basis by 132 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: America's news media for seven long years. Jake Capper sat 133 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: down with Charlie Sykes and he talked about the coverage 134 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: of Donald Trump, and we talked about with Trump manipulating 135 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: the news media in essence and an effect, tricking them 136 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: into situations where they gave Trump wall to wall coverage. 137 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:38,559 Speaker 1: A specific example was the instance when Donald Trump called 138 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: the news conference to hold forth on the question of 139 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: Barack Obama's birth certificate. The media kept the cameras on 140 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: his empty podium for hours as they speculated what it 141 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 1: is that he might say. And then he came on 142 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: television said none of those things, attacked some more, and 143 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:04,439 Speaker 1: then left satisfied with having manipulated the media. That's how 144 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: Tapper saw it. The media was manipulated. The media was 145 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: not manipulated. The media was there as willing partners, cashing 146 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: in with their business partner, Donald Trump, making billions in 147 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: profit for a six show that would come over time 148 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: to dominate American democracy, to poison it, to hurt it, 149 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: to harm it. The American people have been on the 150 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: receiving end of a funhouse mirror a show, an autocratic 151 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: freak show sponsored by and brought to the American people 152 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: by Donald Trump and the Trump family, and again a 153 00:12:52,679 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 1: witting accompanying, collaborating media and political class that has risen 154 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: on a tide of ill will and cowardice. We have 155 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: a great crisis of cowardice in America. The fact that 156 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: the entirety of a political party has succumbed to it 157 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: means America's democracy, as Judge Michael Ludick has said, is 158 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: in grave crisis. It simply can't function with one political party. 159 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: It's what George Washington understood about the threat that political 160 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: parties posed to the nation from the very beginning. It's 161 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: what he warned the country about, and it has come 162 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: to pass. Partisanship, factional loyalty has dominated patriotism. People's loyalty 163 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: to their tribe has come to mean something greater to 164 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 1: them than loyalty to the nation, to the country, to 165 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: the flag. It's what makes this such a despicable hour. 166 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: How can it possibly be that the Kevin McCarthy's of 167 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: the world have come to care more about the Republican 168 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: Party than their country. When the Republican Party was born, 169 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: it came into existence to fight the greatest evil in 170 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: the history of America, which is American slavery. When it 171 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: came into existence, it was because of the moral collapse 172 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: of the Whig Party over the question of slavery. At 173 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: the hour of the Republican Party's birth. Horace Greeley, the 174 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: editor of the New York Tribune, said that the occasion 175 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: of the Missouri Compromises collapse, the passage of the Kansas 176 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: Nebraska Act, which expanded slavery into the westward territories, would 177 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: mark an occasion that would give rise to the birth 178 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: of a new political party. The greatest party for freedom 179 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: in the history of the world is what he said 180 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: would be born, and that party, the Republican Party, that 181 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: came alive in eighteen fifty four, is the third oldest 182 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: political party in the world. It is the party that 183 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: elected Abraham Lincoln to the presidency and saved the Union. 184 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: It is the party of James Garfield and Teddy Roosevelt 185 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: and Dwight Eisenhower. And as Michael Ludig said, it doesn't 186 00:15:54,480 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: exist anymore. John Kennedy talked about this in his last 187 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: major address at Amherst College. He posed a question, what 188 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: is the purpose of a political party If it is 189 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: not to expand national greatness? It serves no purpose. Like 190 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: the Republican Party of today, it is a hollow vessel 191 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: for the ambitions of a single man. It is a 192 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: vessel carrying a poison, and that poison is lethal to freedom, 193 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: to liberty, to democracy. The poison is a tautalitarian mindset. 194 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: It is the mindset that says every person is out 195 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: to get you, every opponent is sick, every sick person 196 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: needs to be locked up, and there is no tolerance 197 00:16:54,520 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: for opposing views, opposing conviction. Every opponent is an enemy 198 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 1: to be destroyed. That is what the nature of trump 199 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 1: Ism is and it is antithetical, lock stock and barrel 200 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: from the concept, the idea and the ideal of Americanism.