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Speaker 2: The executive director.

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Speaker 1: Of Black Lives Matter Oklahoma charged with wire fraud and

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Speaker 3: Reverend Tee Sharia Moore. Dickerson is charged federally with wire

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Speaker 3: fraud and money laundering. Okay, she has Olivia Hickey on

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Speaker 3: live in the newsroom. What are you learning, Olivia, Yeah, guys,

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Speaker 4: The Department of Justice claims Dickerson deposited over three million

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Speaker 4: Black Lives Matter Oklahoma City's account from June twenty twenty

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Speaker 4: community center. The property was placed in her own name. Now.

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Speaker 4: Back in twenty twenty, the organization raised money to support

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Speaker 4: its social justice mission from online donors and national bail funds.

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Speaker 4: Over five million dollars was raised, some through grants with

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Speaker 4: protests for racial justice following George Floyd's death. The indictment

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Speaker 4: the funds went toward personal benefits. She faces up to

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Speaker 4: thousand dollars for each count of wire fraud. Now within

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Speaker 1: Now, why is it that only the local media in

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Speaker 1: This is a national story at three point one five

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Speaker 1: Had access to the blm okase's bank, their PayPal and

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Speaker 1: to know. In twenty twenty, Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation,

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Speaker 2: And guess what who was in charge? Then?

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Speaker 1: Well, you had Democrats that were in charge and they said,

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Speaker 1: Nearly every Somali household with children is on welfare.

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Speaker 1: New data is showing that more than eight in ten

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Speaker 1: Disparities, by the by the way, between Native born Americans

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Speaker 1: You put all that together, this is a recipe for disaster.

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Speaker 5: I'm joined now by Housing and Urban Development Secretary Scott Turner.

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Speaker 5: Secretary Turner, you know it was interesting. I was watching

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Speaker 6: Well, good morning, Kley, it's always great to be with you.

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Speaker 6: And yes, during the Biden administration, the immigration policies crippled

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Speaker 5: One of the things that I think is really fantastic

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Speaker 6: Yes, Kelly, you know all too well, having us served

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Speaker 1: I go back to one of the things that Turner

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Speaker 1: You look at this report and Hudd's twenty twenty five

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Speaker 1: HUDDS report also says that if we don't stop this,

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