Speaker 1: On fourth down, Jared up under center, turns, gives it
Speaker 1: to my Umber gets the first down. Jared tripped as
Speaker 1: he came out from behind center, handed it to Demo,
Speaker 1: just barely got it to him. He got the first
Speaker 1: down to the fourteen yard line. You left that clock
Speaker 1: run now down to thirty and the Packers can't stop it.
Speaker 1: Final play of the game, barring a penalty. Lion's going
Speaker 1: for the win. It's gonna be Jake Bates from thirty
Speaker 1: five yards out left Hash to try.
Speaker 2: To win it for Detroit.
Speaker 1: There it is Fox. The whole kick away is up.
Speaker 1: It is good these Detroit Lions. You want to talk
Speaker 1: about grit, beryl, You want to talk about determination? Do
Speaker 1: you want to talk about resiliency? Fifteen is all of
Speaker 1: those things. What a night for the Detroit Lions.
Speaker 3: You want to talk about the number one seed in
Speaker 3: the NFC going through Detroit, We're one step closer to
Speaker 3: that being a reality.
Speaker 2: After the Lions.
Speaker 3: Get a thirty four to thirty one victory and a
Speaker 3: fantastic Thursday night football game. That was Dan Miller and
Speaker 3: Lomas Brown on WXYT. I'm Greg Rosenthal, I'm in the
Speaker 3: garage and when we got a big game. We need
Speaker 3: a big time guest and analysts for one of the
Speaker 3: best football nights of the year. We could only have
Speaker 3: Jordan Rodrigue, and we had to play two plays Jordan
Speaker 3: right off the top, because that told the story of
Speaker 3: a night when Dan Campbell and this Lion's team was
Speaker 3: not afraid of the moment.
Speaker 2: They go for it on fourth and one with under
Speaker 2: forty seconds to go.
Speaker 3: They pick it up and they get the game winner
Speaker 3: from Jake Bates.
Speaker 4: And I texted Greg Rosenthal in all Cats, Dan Onions Campbell,
Speaker 4: My god, what a great game.
Speaker 2: Let's go.
Speaker 4: Oh that ruled.
Speaker 2: That ruled so much it did.
Speaker 3: And our great producer Eric Roberts is saying, Ah, the
Speaker 3: first half, you know, I was wondering if this game
Speaker 3: was totally gonna deliver.
Speaker 2: But a lot of times great game are like that.
Speaker 3: There was the chess match early and we'll get to
Speaker 3: everything that happened early, and they were feeling each other out.
Speaker 3: But I found that all fascinating because you're watching this
Speaker 3: game and you just know these are two of the
Speaker 3: seven or eight teams that could win the Super Bowl
Speaker 3: that are on the list where it's it's realistic, where
Speaker 3: you can imagine it now. The Lions are right near
Speaker 3: the top of that list, and that decision to go
Speaker 3: for let's start there on fourth and one. I don't
Speaker 3: think any other coach in the NFL is going for
Speaker 3: it there. But he does not want to give the
Speaker 3: ball back to Jordan Love and he is not afraid
Speaker 3: of not picking that yard up, even though Jordan earlier
Speaker 3: in the second half they set up a short Packers
Speaker 3: field goal by going for fourth and one inside their
Speaker 3: own thirty. That play did not work out, but five
Speaker 3: times on this night they went for fourth down. Two
Speaker 3: of them resulted in touchdowns, two others were converted that
Speaker 3: last play, and to me, it's just next level thinking.
Speaker 3: Do you trust your defense or do you know that
Speaker 3: you're an offensive team and confident that you can pick
Speaker 3: up one yard there and end the game.
Speaker 4: Well, it's true to who they are. I mean, listen man,
Speaker 4: And I know I sounded like Dan Campbell there. I've
Speaker 4: been working on that. Listen man, No, they same sounds
Speaker 4: great coming from you, Greg. The ethos of who they are,
Speaker 4: I mean, this is who this team is they. I
Speaker 4: mean you saw on the Amazon Prime broadcast. You saw
Speaker 4: the close up shot of Dan Campbell, and his jaw
Speaker 4: was set and his eyes were like dead inside right,
Speaker 4: and he was ready to go. And then Alan Kirk
Speaker 4: on the broadcast were sitting, Oh yeah, they're gonna try
Speaker 4: to get him to jump right, And everybody in the
Speaker 4: audience at home, I am certain, was like, they're gonna
Speaker 4: freaking go for it right here, only if only to
Speaker 4: kill clock and to set up the field goal and
Speaker 4: a ch little chip shot a little bit, a little
Speaker 4: bit further away than that, but an easier field goal
Speaker 4: for Ja Bates, who has been nails all season since
Speaker 4: they picked him up earlier this summer. And it is
Speaker 4: just so cool to see a team be who it
Speaker 4: is and you can't do anything about it. And the
Speaker 4: Packers did, I think, just about there's a couple of
Speaker 4: little nitpicks. We're going to have just about everything they could.
Speaker 4: I just hit my own microphone. I'm so heck and
Speaker 4: fired up this. They did everything they possibly could, you know,
Speaker 4: with with it. Just this is who the Lions are.
Speaker 4: And part of me too, was relishing that short yardage
Speaker 4: fourth down and that fourth and one right almost almost
Speaker 4: unnecessary depending on who you asked. But if you're Dan Campbell,
Speaker 4: if you're the Lions. That is necessary because Jordan Love
Speaker 4: was starting to heat up on the other side, executing
Speaker 4: some beautiful throws late in the game, getting the keeping
Speaker 4: the Green Bay Packers in it, keeping it tight, taking
Speaker 4: a couple of leads, and Dan Campbell I feel like
Speaker 4: almost a part of him and I want to believe
Speaker 4: this went for it there almost because they failed on
Speaker 4: the previous one. He's like, I everyone all the talking
Speaker 4: heads on the shows tomorrow morning to shut the hell up,
Speaker 4: because we're gonna get this one.
Speaker 3: I do I think Campbell thinks that, But I do
Speaker 3: think he thinks about it. I think that what it
Speaker 3: says to the team that this is who we are
Speaker 3: and we're gonna keep doing this. But I think he
Speaker 3: is so good at game management because he plays to
Speaker 3: the strings and he knows that the Packers scored every
Speaker 3: single one of those thirty one points Jordan in the
Speaker 3: previous six drives. So that's thirty one points in six drives.
Speaker 3: That's four touchdowns in a field goal. The Lions were
Speaker 3: able to force the Packers to kick a field goal
Speaker 3: with about three minutes and forty seconds to go, and
Speaker 3: that almost felt like a death sentence. The Lions are
Speaker 3: so good on offense that you thought, ooh, them tying
Speaker 3: it at thirty one with under four to go, I
Speaker 3: just bet they're going to kill the clock and kick
Speaker 3: a field goal. And that is what happened. But before that,
Speaker 3: it was four straight touchdowns by the Packers. The Lions defense,
Speaker 3: which I thought was really no in this game, and
Speaker 3: they're so shorthanded and started out really well, and they
Speaker 3: picked the team up early when the offense actually wasn't amazing.
Speaker 3: They punted a couple of times and Goff had that interception.
Speaker 3: In their first six drives, it's a team game. It's
Speaker 3: complimentary and and Dan Campbell knows who can compliment. Now,
Speaker 3: let's just back up a second in that drive, because
Speaker 3: I say it, it felt like a FATA company. It's
Speaker 3: gonna happen, But there's multiple moments where they got to
Speaker 3: go make it happen.
Speaker 2: It's third and nine.
Speaker 3: And you get Jamir Gibbs, who as a receiver is
Speaker 3: such a difference maker.
Speaker 2: He caught that fourth down for a touchdown.
Speaker 3: You got to pick up that third and nine or
Speaker 3: you have another really difficult fourth down decision, or you're
Speaker 3: kicking a field goal with a ton of time left.
Speaker 2: Of course they pick it up.
Speaker 3: You have second and seventeen after a questionable holding call,
Speaker 3: and it's just like they'll probably pick up the second
Speaker 3: and seventeen.
Speaker 2: But you can't take it for granted.
Speaker 3: Jared Goff is just so awesome, you know, throwing it
Speaker 3: over the middle on those in breakers he gets sixteen yards.
Speaker 3: That was to Saint Brown, right, you know, they're just
Speaker 3: short of fourth down, and they were a little up
Speaker 3: and down in short yardage on third downs for most
Speaker 3: of the night, and that set up the big decision.
Speaker 3: But all the credit goes to GoF too for other
Speaker 3: than the interception, I think playing a fantastic game and
Speaker 3: him and the lines being able to execute in those
Speaker 3: huge moments.
Speaker 4: Yes, he ended the game on a thirteen pass heater
Speaker 4: like talk about clutch, I mean.
Speaker 3: After wait, no incomplations, you mean in thirteen in a row.
Speaker 4: Correct, Yeah, no, missus. And to aman Rossaint Brown of
Speaker 4: course on one of those inbreakers, those digs that the
Speaker 4: Packers for some reason could not cover all night, and
Speaker 4: they were doing a hell of a job. The Packers were,
Speaker 4: I think against this Lion's offense. They were getting a
Speaker 4: ton of penetration up front. They were winning the line
Speaker 4: of scrimmage a lot. They forced the Lions to go
Speaker 4: into their screen game. We'll talk about some of the
Speaker 4: moves and counter moves in a second, but that after
Speaker 4: that interception, Jared GoF settled in so well, in part
Speaker 4: because Ben Johnson and he got in their bag on
Speaker 4: some of these misdirection plays, some of the screens, some
Speaker 4: of the quick passes, some of the different things that
Speaker 4: settle a quarterback down. And then he started heating up
Speaker 4: and he was so confident, and even on that handoff
Speaker 4: on the fourth and one, he falls down because he
Speaker 4: gets stepped on and he still gets the hand off
Speaker 4: to the back right, and you're having a heart attack
Speaker 4: watching it because you're like, this gangly creature is just
Speaker 4: flying all over the dang backfield because he gets stepped
Speaker 4: on and it still works out. Because this is a
Speaker 4: tough team. They are tough minded. They embody their head coach,
Speaker 4: they embody their city, they embody each other. They trust
Speaker 4: each other. That was clear up and down, even in
Speaker 4: the clutch moments that they had to execute on that
Speaker 4: last drive, in the calls that their head coach made. Situationally,
Speaker 4: it just is so clear this team absolutely knows who
Speaker 4: it is and what it can accomplish. This is the
Speaker 4: sixth one possession game they have won this season. That
Speaker 4: is the third most in the NFL. And a lot
Speaker 4: of it has come down to having the confidence because
Speaker 4: they've blown some teams out, But a lot of it,
Speaker 4: too has come down to having the confidence to just
Speaker 4: suffocate the opponent and squeeze out these late drives.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you sent that stat to me.
Speaker 3: I was really surprised because you think the Lions have
Speaker 3: so many blots, and they do, but they've won so
Speaker 3: many games at this point that more than half their
Speaker 3: games have been one score games. They lost that one
Speaker 3: to the Bucks where it was a weird game where
Speaker 3: they almost double them in yardage, and then they've won
Speaker 3: all the rest of them. Let's hear from Dan Campbell
Speaker 3: on that fourth down decision.
Speaker 5: I just, you know, I felt like I just felt
Speaker 5: like we needed to end it on offense, you know,
Speaker 5: and I did not want to give that ball back.
Speaker 5: And I believe we could get that. I believe we
Speaker 5: can convert, you know. And I trusted that old line.
Speaker 5: I trusted David, and they came through fourth sense A
Speaker 5: hell of a call by Ben you know, it just
Speaker 5: I knew how I wanted to play this game, the
Speaker 5: team knew it, and and everything in me told me
Speaker 5: that let's let's finish this, and so we did.
Speaker 4: I love how he talks after these things, like after this,
Speaker 4: it's almost like he's pleading. I don't know why his
Speaker 4: tone is like that, because we all are in man like,
Speaker 4: we're all we're all I don't think, no, no, no, I'm
Speaker 4: saying his tone. I'm not saying he is doing that.
Speaker 4: I'm saying his tone is like that, urging that please,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Like that that it's almost
Speaker 4: like taking so much out of him just to complete
Speaker 4: the sentences because of how much the game took out
Speaker 4: of him, and and like just you know, it's just
Speaker 4: it's very earnest, I would say, And and it's very
Speaker 4: every time. We're used to it now for several years,
Speaker 4: and you don't really quite get used to it because
Speaker 4: you don't hear coaches talk like that after games.
Speaker 3: I read it more as he has put like you
Speaker 3: just said, he has put everything into this game, and
Speaker 3: then he just spoke to his team afterwards, and it's.
Speaker 2: Almost it's almost all.
Speaker 3: Out of it, and it's taking everything of him to
Speaker 3: even put himself back in those moments to like explain
Speaker 3: where it is.
Speaker 2: And I love it. It's it's so human. It's firing
Speaker 2: me up.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm I think I need to take off
Speaker 3: my embarrassing winter coat that I'm wearing in the garage
Speaker 3: still and get comfortable for the rest of the show.
Speaker 3: Let's actually listen to another fourth down call. While we're
Speaker 3: thinking about fourth down calls, I want to back it
Speaker 3: up actually to the fourth down call, the first fourth
Speaker 3: down touchdown. It's Jared Goff finding Jamir Gibbs. This is
Speaker 3: in the first half to end it. It's on it
Speaker 3: at a ten to seven score. It's basically a seven
Speaker 3: point play. It's going to change how you feel about
Speaker 3: the end of the first half.
Speaker 2: Golf is going to work out of the gun.
Speaker 1: He's got Gibbs to his right. Jared takes the snap
Speaker 1: back looking throwing heads on a touchdown. Detroit lyons you
Speaker 1: can't cough with that man. Jamiir Gibbs on the preceding end,
Speaker 1: what a sick route that time you go like deals
Speaker 1: that can stick his foot in the ground the way
Speaker 1: he does and come out of this break.
Speaker 2: There's no line back to could cover Hill.
Speaker 3: That is such an awesome play call, also an awesome
Speaker 3: job by me knowing how embarrassing it would be to
Speaker 3: take off the coat during the podcast, and that's how
Speaker 3: I know the.
Speaker 2: Game is going down for me.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I need a highlight to take it off
Speaker 3: because it was it was embarrassing. But that that play
Speaker 3: gets to Ben Johnson's brilliance. There were so many moments
Speaker 3: Jordan where he isolated on just the gotta have it
Speaker 3: type of plays. Whether it was tim Bett Patrick on
Speaker 3: an inbreaker on another fourth down call, whether it was
Speaker 3: Gibbs there, whether it was Gibbs on that third down,
Speaker 3: even the very first third down of the game. I'm
Speaker 3: thinking how he got a mon Ross Saint Brown matched
Speaker 3: up on Javon Buller, the Packers' safety. The It wasn't
Speaker 3: perfect because the Packers defense was out there too, and
Speaker 3: they were getting pressure and they did a lot of
Speaker 3: good things, but on the biggest plays of the game,
Speaker 3: they were getting the guys they wanted and they executed.
Speaker 3: And it really speaks to me of how great this
Speaker 3: backfield is. Because we just said how great Montgomery is
Speaker 3: and how much faith he has his success rate tonight
Speaker 3: was outstanding.
Speaker 2: It was well over fifty percent. Gibbs's was terrible.
Speaker 3: Actually, Gibbs did not run the ball well, but Gibbs
Speaker 3: in the passing game was everything.
Speaker 2: Had some of the biggest plays in the game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was impressive to watch the adjustments in this game.
Speaker 4: Tim Patrick, by the way, two touchdowns tonight after going
Speaker 4: over a thousand days since his last touchdown. And like
Speaker 4: I've said this before, I think I've said this to
Speaker 4: you too. What a love match between Tim Patrick and
Speaker 4: the Detroit Like what a perfect fit between Tim Patrick
Speaker 4: and the Detroit LANs. He does everything well that they want,
Speaker 4: that they need from him to do, and they reward
Speaker 4: him for it. And this is this was cool and
Speaker 4: he got it was cool to watch him getting the
Speaker 4: two game balls, and like how hyped up he was,
Speaker 4: and what a cool moment for him after those injuries
Speaker 4: and then the team change and all of that. But
Speaker 4: I loved the coaching in this and for both sides
Speaker 4: of the ball. I questioned a couple of Matt Lafleur's
Speaker 4: decision making. There was a delay he took in the
Speaker 4: third quarter that was a punt. Their recommendation for that
Speaker 4: was to go, but you know, we can nitpick over
Speaker 4: those things. I really thought that the coordinators and the
Speaker 4: play callers in this game, and minus even taking out
Speaker 4: because we've talked a lot about the situational stuff, but
Speaker 4: taking that out for a second, I thought the adjustments
Speaker 4: making the most of the players that they had adjusting
Speaker 4: extremely quickly, not just half to half, but drive to drive.
Speaker 4: And we can go deeper in on this in a minute.
Speaker 4: But I was so impressed by Jeff Hafley with Green Bay.
Speaker 4: I was impressed by the game that Matt Lafluor called
Speaker 4: in the way he adjusted situational stuff aside and there
Speaker 4: was some you know, we can nitpick to the cows
Speaker 4: come home either side of the ball, but I was
Speaker 4: impressed with it. With the coaching there. I was really
Speaker 4: impressed with Aaron Glenn. I always am because he's done
Speaker 4: a hell of a job this year. But they are
Speaker 4: decimated just over a dozen players to injury. They lost
Speaker 4: Alee McNeil to a concussion or a potential they're calling
Speaker 4: it a head injury, but he was in the concussion
Speaker 4: protocol earlier in the game. They lost him, which is
Speaker 4: obviously huge because the interior of their defensive line is
Speaker 4: already decimated. The exterior of their defensive line is decimated.
Speaker 4: Jonah freaking Williams, who was just in LA last week
Speaker 4: and I said hey to him in the hallway, is
Speaker 4: there now starting for them, playing for the meaningful snaps
Speaker 4: for them.
Speaker 3: Practice squad stop your there just on participation in the
Speaker 3: very first drive of the game for the Packers, so
Speaker 3: essentially starting. Quant Alexander's out there. I'm like, wait, he's
Speaker 3: on the lines. I honestly didn't know Quant Alexander's out there.
Speaker 3: Jamal Adams is out there, who just came in this week.
Speaker 3: Janah Williams is out there, who is just in Los Angeles.
Speaker 3: And then yeah, you mentioned Ali McNeil goes out, Brian
Speaker 3: Branch went out in the second half of this scheme.
Speaker 3: Look like they've comes so much and the guys that
Speaker 3: were making place for them, like Pad O'Connor was actually
Speaker 3: it's like, oh, it was like a big factor some pressures.
Speaker 3: They needed their defense to just get a couple stops
Speaker 3: to let their offense win the game. And whether that
Speaker 3: sometimes it comes early, sometimes it comes late, and for
Speaker 3: them it came early, like by the second half, and
Speaker 3: we can talk you can talk about the adjustments the
Speaker 3: Packers made. The Packers had basically figured them out, but
Speaker 3: they did get enough stops early while the Lions offense
Speaker 3: wasn't humming, and they did force a turnover Carlton Davis
Speaker 3: with a nice play on a Christian Watson catch. You
Speaker 3: had a great night. Otherwise that they did enough, and
Speaker 3: that's that's what winning in the NFL, and that's what's
Speaker 3: so impressive. I love a team full of just like
Speaker 3: it's okay to have excellence. Maybe they won't make it
Speaker 3: to the super Bowl for this regular season, though they
Speaker 3: are an example of excellence and I like that being rewarded.
Speaker 4: You know, that could have been huge too, because after
Speaker 4: that the Lions only got three points out of that
Speaker 4: fumble recovery. On the other side, that was when the
Speaker 4: Packers defense, I think was at their peak right there,
Speaker 4: forcing the Lions into their A and B plus plans
Speaker 4: for a minute there before that game ending drive. What
Speaker 4: I really loved about I'm gonna start with what Ben
Speaker 4: Johnson did with his opening script, and I am always
Speaker 4: such a huge fan of how he so for listeners
Speaker 4: who might not know the opening script, most teams, most
Speaker 4: offensive coordinators or offensive play callers on a team, they'll
Speaker 4: use like a ten to fifteen play sequence and they
Speaker 4: will basically organize that play sheet in that manner. And
Speaker 4: it's not necessarily intended to react to what a defense
Speaker 4: is doing, but to assert looks on a defense, to
Speaker 4: force the defense to react to you in certain ways,
Speaker 4: and if it goes as planned, you can get some
Speaker 4: answers as to how defenses will react to certain looks
Speaker 4: that you show, especially pre snap, especially what you do
Speaker 4: with motion, especially you know, and a lot of times
Speaker 4: because it is such an assertive plan and you're doing
Speaker 4: different things, teams that are good can score on that
Speaker 4: opener and then forces the defense to then go to
Speaker 4: its reaction plan versus play by play reaction. But what
Speaker 4: I love what Ben Johnson does with his script is
Speaker 4: he does freaking everything with that thing. Man Like he
Speaker 4: he'll go like he'll he'll cluster the type the two
Speaker 4: tight ends together and motion one across the stack and
Speaker 4: then bring them back, and then motion one on an
Speaker 4: exit outside and then bring him back and then they
Speaker 4: run the ball in like duo, or he'll have an
Speaker 4: eye formation which he opened, or he'll exit motion. I'm
Speaker 4: monra in a in a different on different sides of
Speaker 4: the stack to the outside each time to see which
Speaker 4: defenders move, or they'll hard count, or they'll change the cadence,
Speaker 4: they'll change the speed of their motions. They do this
Speaker 4: all on what is a very balanced run past script.
Speaker 4: So instead of saying, you know, a lot of times
Speaker 4: you'll see past past pass, past pass, I want to
Speaker 4: see where our passing voids are because I want to
Speaker 4: get a quick lead to allow ourselves to stay on
Speaker 4: our A plus plan. They don't care, because they know
Speaker 4: that they can run the hell out of the ball too,
Speaker 4: and they need to understand where their run voids are
Speaker 4: where they can create space and blocking structure within the
Speaker 4: run game as well. So he does all of it,
Speaker 4: and you could see that on their opening drive the
Speaker 4: Lions had, excuse me, the Packers' defense had to react
Speaker 4: to one hundred different things just in that sequence of
Speaker 4: like what ten a dozen plays, whatever.
Speaker 2: It was, and they still got their touchdown.
Speaker 4: And they still got their touchdown, which is what makes
Speaker 4: the Lions so good, in my opinion, one of the
Speaker 4: many things, because they could then stay in their A
Speaker 4: plus plan. Now bear with me, Greg, bear with me, listener,
Speaker 4: because I know, I'm in geek out, freak out mode.
Speaker 4: So what I really really loved then that the Packers
Speaker 4: and Jeff Hafley did was he just really that defensive
Speaker 4: line just got going and they started really getting after
Speaker 4: Jared Goff. Jared Goff started getting under duress by their
Speaker 4: defensive line. But then also they were getting movement in
Speaker 4: the run game too. They were getting penetration. They weren't
Speaker 4: just winning at the line of scrimmage, they were getting
Speaker 4: into the backfield. Kenny Clark had a freaking phenomenal game
Speaker 4: in year nine and he was in the backfield all
Speaker 4: the time. Okay, so then.
Speaker 3: Him coming on there lately is one of the most
Speaker 3: important things that's happening to the backers because he had
Speaker 3: about the worst six to seven game stretch of his
Speaker 3: entire career. I would say, to start this season and
Speaker 3: you can see this building. It's coming each and every
Speaker 3: week because they need their stars to step up. Rashan
Speaker 3: Gary also had a nice sack which was big for
Speaker 3: them too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they were winning the line of scrimmage and yes,
Speaker 4: I know, and I got a couple of blue Sky
Speaker 4: tweet postset me or whatever it was people saying well,
Speaker 4: we're missing a couple of lignement. Yes, I know, you
Speaker 4: still have one of the best GD lines in the NFL.
Speaker 2: Minus and they got Kevin Zeisler back.
Speaker 3: He left again briefly, but he did come back. So
Speaker 3: they're only missing one. Let's come down, Yes.
Speaker 4: And it's still I mean god like, Dan Skipper is
Speaker 4: still great man like, look at him in the screen game.
Speaker 4: So then, speaking speaking of that, so those dlignements, So
Speaker 4: when they're getting penetration like that, and I'm gesturing, so
Speaker 4: if you're watching on YouTube, I'm sorry because I look
Speaker 4: like a psycho person right now. But they're moving north
Speaker 4: to south when they're getting when they're getting penetration like that,
Speaker 4: when they're winning the line of scrimmage, they're going north
Speaker 4: to south. So what does mad scientist Christian Bale in
Speaker 4: The Big Short do the freaking drum kit besides whaling metallica?
Speaker 4: But he starts to move this defensive line side to side.
Speaker 3: Right, Wait, wait a second, you can't just you can't
Speaker 3: just call out Christian Bale from The Big Short and
Speaker 3: think anyone knows what you're talking about.
Speaker 4: Ben Johnson reminds me of Christian Bale in the Big short,
Speaker 4: keep up.
Speaker 3: Well, actually we actually have a picture, Jordan. You didn't
Speaker 3: know this, but let's show that up on the screen.
Speaker 3: Continue talking, Well, we show the Christian Bale picture.
Speaker 2: Ben Johnson, I can see it. I can see it
Speaker 2: playing on the drums. I love that, man.
Speaker 4: Okay, so stay with me, guys. So they're moving north
Speaker 4: to south right when they're penetrating in that way, right.
Speaker 4: But then now Ben Johnson says, okay, let me go
Speaker 4: to page five in my playbook and we're going to
Speaker 4: go screen game right. So they start to deploy. There
Speaker 4: a wide variety of screens, screens that move to the outside,
Speaker 4: screens that I'm figuring out and investigating a little bit
Speaker 4: that do this cool thing where they look like a
Speaker 4: tunnel screen. But then they work their way up the scene,
Speaker 4: which is really cool. They start doing these things that
Speaker 4: basically extend their run game. But they also start moving
Speaker 4: in the past game the defensive line from side to side,
Speaker 4: so they can't get that penetration. They can't go north
Speaker 4: to south. And this game, Greg was full of those
Speaker 4: little hit my mic again drive to drive counter adjustments
Speaker 4: that were so it wasn't just like oh, you go
Speaker 4: in at halftime and you make adjustments and all of that.
Speaker 4: It was drive to drive. When Jordan Love was getting
Speaker 4: the crap blitzed out of him early in the game,
Speaker 4: four of the Lions brought great pressure four of his
Speaker 4: five for initial dropbacks he faced the blitz, he only
Speaker 4: completed two passes for twenty three yards. At that time,
Speaker 4: Matt Lafleur is like, all right, we're going to run
Speaker 4: seven consecutive times. It was all of these moves and
Speaker 4: counter moves, and it was just a masterclass in like
Speaker 4: that type of coaching. We could take the situational stuff
Speaker 4: out and put it in another bucket, but that type
Speaker 4: of adjustment, understanding your personnel, understanding where you're limited, understanding
Speaker 4: moves and counter moves like that. I freaking loved this
Speaker 4: game for that reason. I did two and my face
Speaker 4: is really red ray.
Speaker 3: And it's why these two coaching staffs are two of
Speaker 3: the six or seven best coaching staffs, whatever you want
Speaker 3: to put on it. There's a lot of great coaching staffs. Now, Hefley,
Speaker 3: we're still learning about him. And I tried to come
Speaker 3: up with a comp for him. You could put him up,
Speaker 3: and the best I could do is I was thinking
Speaker 3: of Michael Stolberg from a serious man but also a
Speaker 3: great character actor. He's a Boardwalk Empire but one of
Speaker 3: my favorite Cohen Brothers movie. He kind of reminds me
Speaker 3: a little of Hefley, and we're still learning about Hefley.
Speaker 3: And as a big picture thought, I think Packers fans
Speaker 3: do have to wonder. It's not really about the coaching,
Speaker 3: but if you're gonna go to the Super Bowl this year,
Speaker 3: you're now gonna have to win three straight road games,
Speaker 3: very difficult to do, and you're probably gonna have to
Speaker 3: beat the Lions and or the Eagles on the way
Speaker 3: to doing it, probably both. Is this defense, even with
Speaker 3: the and everything like, do they have enough to hang
Speaker 3: in games like that? And and if not? In tonight,
Speaker 3: I think they showed what the recipe needs to be.
Speaker 3: Can your offense just be more special than the other offense?
Speaker 3: Can you win a game like this where you make
Speaker 3: fewer mistakes? Because the Lions are probably gonna be healthier
Speaker 3: and figure some things out defensively, and the Eagles defense
Speaker 3: is fantastic, So as good as the Packers offense is,
Speaker 3: and I think as improved as the Packers defense is
Speaker 3: because they do force turnovers and they're not a siev
Speaker 3: like they were a year ago. Are both of those
Speaker 3: sides good enough in the end? Maybe in a one
Speaker 3: game sample, but man, it's gotta be hard. It's gonna
Speaker 3: be hard in that one game sample, and it's got
Speaker 3: to be really hard to do it back to back
Speaker 3: weeks against these types of teams. So I think it's
Speaker 3: a really good Packers team. I think nine to four
Speaker 3: is an appropriate record for this team. And Jordan Love
Speaker 3: made some throws in the the second half of this
Speaker 3: game that cemented why he is on quarterback Island.
Speaker 2: They were just awesome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they were able to hang in this game,
Speaker 3: but ultimately they weren't quite special enough to even be
Speaker 3: a banged up Lions team. So that's more just taking
Speaker 3: the step back, even though I think there's so many
Speaker 3: positive things to think about them looking forward, what do
Speaker 3: you agree or disagree? Like, not really talking about the
Speaker 3: schemes and all that, but just on a bigger picture.
Speaker 4: Level, I mean, I think because you are going to
Speaker 4: expect this defense to grow up with the coordinator, this
Speaker 4: first time defense. I mean, he's been a defensive coordinator
Speaker 4: obviously in football, but in terms of the NFL like
Speaker 4: working with this staff, working with this personnel, fitting different
Speaker 4: personnel to the defense. I think the way that he
Speaker 4: brought this defensive line and they themselves, the players obviously
Speaker 4: deserve all the credit as well, but the way that
Speaker 4: he brought this line to life was striking to me
Speaker 4: because they were so active on a snap to snap basis.
Speaker 4: They were so active and yes, you saw scheme, a
Speaker 4: combination of scheme timing and very gifted players on the
Speaker 4: Lion's side make these big plays happen right in spurts
Speaker 4: and phases, but when you watch like the way that
Speaker 4: they it just they seem so active the entire game
Speaker 4: to me, like the Lions offensive line just completely had
Speaker 4: their hands full. And then when they were I mean,
Speaker 4: I will say like I really don't want anyone and
Speaker 4: nobody will on the show I know, but like Jared
Speaker 4: Goff is not the same Jarre Goff that we know
Speaker 4: from reputationally in the Alan and Kirk just could not
Speaker 4: help but bring up on the broadcast tonight, like this
Speaker 4: dude is calm, he's collected, he works incredibly well under pressure.
Speaker 4: He really let had pressure really got to him and
Speaker 4: flustered him on one possession really and then he recovered
Speaker 4: and it was a it was a team effort where
Speaker 4: he was leading the charge and leading the way, of course,
Speaker 4: but it was a group, a collective that is so
Speaker 4: clicking and sync playing together, you know, a four wheeled
Speaker 4: death machine that just understood how to just settle and
Speaker 4: get back get back on track with some of the
Speaker 4: like I said, some of that quick.
Speaker 2: Was it under pressure that much though in the in
Speaker 2: the end now part of it the ball.
Speaker 4: But that one possession where Jeff Hafley I think picked
Speaker 4: his spots incredibly well to dial up specific types of
Speaker 4: pressure that was going to get home or force the
Speaker 4: throw or or his defensive backs you know, made the
Speaker 4: play where they needed to those types of things. I
Speaker 4: think that is extremely promising from this Packers group. And
Speaker 4: I think if they would have opened up understanding, you know, yes,
Speaker 4: we really need to heat my quarterback up. If you're
Speaker 4: you know, Matt Lafleur, Yes we got to heat him up,
Speaker 4: so we got to throw the ball a little bit.
Speaker 4: I get that. But if they opened up with that
Speaker 4: like we're going to run, try to run it down
Speaker 4: your throat against your battered defensive front versus some of
Speaker 4: the dropbacks that he took, I think if they're the
Speaker 4: adjustment had happened. I know it happened quick, and I'm
Speaker 4: praising that, but I think if that was the A
Speaker 4: plus plan versus, oh my god, we're down all of
Speaker 4: a sudden, like, what's our A plus plan? What's our
Speaker 4: B plan? Like, I think that's where you maybe are
Speaker 4: seeing them go toe to toe a little bit earlier
Speaker 4: in the game, and then they ended up heating up
Speaker 4: and taking the lead in a couple spots. I think
Speaker 4: it was back really gat about this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was so hard for one aspect of either
Speaker 3: team to get a foothold because I think, like, oh wow,
Speaker 3: Josh Jacobs ran really well in this game. They were
Speaker 3: fishing in the red zone when they got down there,
Speaker 3: he scored, He had some good runs. But the reality is,
Speaker 3: other than that first drive in the second quarter, the
Speaker 3: Lion's defense, as they've done all year, no matter who's
Speaker 3: on the field, did a pretty good job stopping the
Speaker 3: run in the rest of the second half, and it
Speaker 3: did take love making those throws. And Packers fans who
Speaker 3: are listening appreciates y'all, because I hate listening to stuff
Speaker 3: like if it pains me. For me, it's more Celtics,
Speaker 3: But like I listened to a a couple of Celtics podcast,
Speaker 3: especially Green with Van b shout out to them. But
Speaker 3: if it's a painful loss, like I'm not listening to
Speaker 3: that podcast, the Packers fans will know. Yeah, we're really
Speaker 3: banged up too. We don't have jay R Alexander, who
Speaker 3: is the most important player in our secondary along with
Speaker 3: Davi or McKinney. We lost Evan Williams, who if you
Speaker 3: had a ten person list for defensive Rookie of the
Speaker 3: Year would be on it and is really important. And
Speaker 3: I think did Javon Boullard come go in and out
Speaker 3: of this game two? I think he came back in.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: That's a lot though, And you didn't have Romeo Dobbs
Speaker 3: in this game. So there are really important players for
Speaker 3: the Packers that especially in the secondary. Alexander is absolutely
Speaker 3: a difference maker and they could have them back for
Speaker 3: a rematch, and there might be a rematch. Just again
Speaker 3: thinking big picture, and we can dive in a little
Speaker 3: more in this game, but again thinking.
Speaker 2: Big picture, I love this rivalry is awesome.
Speaker 3: This division is awesome because I think the defining Lions
Speaker 3: game of the Dan Campbell era so far is still
Speaker 3: the Week eighteen win over the Packers to knock Aaron
Speaker 3: Rodgers out of the playoffs in his final game as
Speaker 3: a Packers when the Lions quote unquote had nothing to
Speaker 3: play for, Like that to me was everything this Lions
Speaker 3: team is about. But it's gone back and forth. I
Speaker 3: was getting flashbacks tonight, Jordan. I don't know if you
Speaker 3: remember the Lions lost in Detroit last year at home
Speaker 3: to the Packers, in large part because they called a
Speaker 3: fake punt in their own end late in the game
Speaker 3: that the Packers stopped and then scored on a short
Speaker 3: field and won. And so when the Lions went for
Speaker 3: that fourth and one and didn't get it in the
Speaker 3: Packers and then took advantage, I guarantee you there were
Speaker 3: a lot of Lions fans were like, oh, this is
Speaker 3: exactly like last year. The difference tonight being all night
Speaker 3: Jared Goff and the Lions offense responded right away anytime
Speaker 3: when he had the turnover, when they gave up a touchdown,
Speaker 3: they responded right away with a really cold, calculated drive.
Speaker 3: And that's what great teams do. What a what a
Speaker 3: freaking to use your man, I'm now sounding like you
Speaker 3: just being around here. What a freaking cool rivalry this
Speaker 3: is Lions Packers. I hope we see a third one
Speaker 3: in the playoffs this year.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Also, something I noticed that's really cool. Are you
Speaker 4: did you wear a shacket underneath your giant jacket? Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was going three layers this guy.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, just just checking.
Speaker 3: Okay, let's let's take a quick break. We will be back.
Speaker 3: There's so much to get to with this great game.
Speaker 3: We've talked about.
Speaker 2: The Lions so much in this podcast. Let's give some
Speaker 2: love to our guy, Jordan. Let's go, cow man, let's go.
Speaker 2: Let's go to his.
Speaker 3: Touchdown to Tucker Craft in the first half. This was
Speaker 3: a big play in the game, loving.
Speaker 2: The shotgun with the set back to his right.
Speaker 1: Third down and Tan, here's a snap lit on Zuke
Speaker 1: Tucker Crap touchco touchdown, Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 1: Oh a tracer, A tracer from Jordan.
Speaker 2: Love and they beat Carlton Davis.
Speaker 3: Wow, great call there by Wayne Lairvie on W R ANDW.
Speaker 3: Just to correct myself, that was early in the third quarter.
Speaker 4: Second half.
Speaker 3: Get on the board and yeah to make it seventeen fourteen,
Speaker 3: and that was a drive where Love made.
Speaker 2: A couple of beautiful throws.
Speaker 3: Really throughout the second half, he was absolutely nails.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and his player showed up for him. You know,
Speaker 4: there was a fumble earlier. That was Watson, right, who
Speaker 4: fumbled that earlier in the game, and he ended up
Speaker 4: making like one of the more I mean, the throw
Speaker 4: itself was just filthy, sick, right, but then like the
Speaker 4: catch that he made because the dB had like two
Speaker 4: fingers on it, right, and the focus to kind of
Speaker 4: catch it against his face mask a little bit down
Speaker 4: the field. I think that was a twenty six yarder.
Speaker 2: That fifty nine.
Speaker 4: Too, Yeah, and the twenty nine yarder with the focus
Speaker 4: on the catch then, and I want, I just want
Speaker 4: to hear you go full Greg on this next one.
Speaker 4: The throw he made to Wix. I have it in
Speaker 4: my notes as the insane QB Island throw pocket collapsing
Speaker 4: in all cats. And then I have in parentheses, let
Speaker 4: Greg cook.
Speaker 2: Right, why let me cook anyway?
Speaker 4: Cause you were so excited about it. I loved I
Speaker 4: loved it. It was fantastic.
Speaker 3: That's everything, that's everything you want in a quarterback right there,
Speaker 3: it's it's the pocket movement, it's the quick pressure by
Speaker 3: the Lions on a blitz on a play Jacobs did
Speaker 3: not pick up the blitz, and that's a play the
Speaker 3: defensive coordinator one. And that's what separates the very good
Speaker 3: quarterbacks from the great ones. Where he just can overcome
Speaker 3: a great defensive play call and a failure by his
Speaker 3: running back. He picked up his running back to slide
Speaker 3: in the pocket and then all getting hit while moving
Speaker 3: left as a right handed quarterback and put that thing
Speaker 3: on the money to Watson. It was a great catch.
Speaker 3: There was no room to put that throw. And it
Speaker 3: couldn't be no offense to her cousins. It couldn't be
Speaker 3: one of those like layered throws like you're kind of
Speaker 3: throwing it.
Speaker 2: It's a touch pass.
Speaker 3: That is a very difficult intermediate throw where you have
Speaker 3: to put some of that tracer on it too. And
Speaker 3: Love is as physically gifted, I think it's fair to
Speaker 3: say as any quarterback. I don't know if you want
Speaker 3: to say someone is more or not, but as a
Speaker 3: thrower of the football, he is so gifted. And Watson
Speaker 3: came through four for one fourteen. He's playing really well lately.
Speaker 3: And that's that's just a special play. And that's why
Speaker 3: all three of us, me, you and Steve were texting
Speaker 3: at that point and I was like, Okay, he made
Speaker 3: us proud.
Speaker 2: We made the right decision.
Speaker 3: Any dude making that freaking play needs to be on
Speaker 3: QB Island.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and we'll just glass right over the fact that
Speaker 4: we need to hold you to task for breaking the
Speaker 4: rules of the rip tid card. But we'll get to
Speaker 4: that in another time. The Jordan love I also what
Speaker 4: I really appreciated watching from him. They would cut to
Speaker 4: him on the sideline a lot. They would cut to him,
Speaker 4: close ups of him underneath even his face masks, helmet.
Speaker 4: He was so calm. I mean, he's fired up when
Speaker 4: they would make a play, but he was so calm.
Speaker 4: They got after him early, like Aaron Glenn dialed up
Speaker 4: some nasty pressure against him, understanding that he entered the
Speaker 4: game with some of the worst stats against the Blitz
Speaker 4: in the league. They were improving over the last couple
Speaker 4: of weeks, but that was his resume to this point,
Speaker 4: and it worked and they got after him. It was
Speaker 4: two passes of five dropbacks that came against the Blitz
Speaker 4: for twenty three yards, like I said earlier, and they
Speaker 4: were the quick little dump off you know, throws, and
Speaker 4: he finished. The Lions still blitzed him at a sixty
Speaker 4: three percent rate throughout the entire course of the game,
Speaker 4: which is insane. Like the league average is what like
Speaker 4: twenty eight percent, twenty six percent, ohly a.
Speaker 3: Couple teams are over forty and it's so that's an
Speaker 3: insane number.
Speaker 4: That is insane right then, And he finished nine for fourteen,
Speaker 4: So this is inclusive to the struggle that he started with.
Speaker 4: But he finished nine for fourteen with a touchdown specifically
Speaker 4: against the blitz he settled. And that's again, that's a
Speaker 4: quarterback who and Dan Campbell knew this. We circle back
Speaker 4: to it. He knew this when he was going for
Speaker 4: that fourth down call to ic the game out with
Speaker 4: the field goal. Is when Jordan Love heats up, good
Speaker 4: luck stopping him because he's going to make play after
Speaker 4: play after play and you are in danger against that man.
Speaker 3: And I do get a little worried about this Lion's secondary,
Speaker 3: even though they've been great all year and josephin Brand
Speaker 3: showed up at different moments tonight, Terry Arnold has a
Speaker 3: couple plays every game that rookie plays very handsy, big penalty,
Speaker 3: gives up a big play and it's tough. You don't
Speaker 3: they actually at the first half of this game, because
Speaker 3: of the blitz and because of the scheme, I'm like, man,
Speaker 3: they're past rush is better than when they had Aiden Hutchinson.
Speaker 3: They were kind of struggling earlier this year. Now I
Speaker 3: know they weren't blitzing like that, but they were making
Speaker 3: it happen. But they were victimized by the end of
Speaker 3: this game. And the margins they're just so small, and
Speaker 3: I just was thinking, maybe the Packers next year at
Speaker 3: this time, it's such a young team, are just a
Speaker 3: little more ready. And all it comes down to is,
Speaker 3: you know, each team had a turnover, Each team went
Speaker 3: up and down the field. They were pretty good in
Speaker 3: the red zone. The Packers punted three times, the Lions
Speaker 3: punted twice. And the reason the Lions only punted twice,
Speaker 3: in part is because they went for those fourth downs. Now,
Speaker 3: one of those that they didn't punt, they handed it
Speaker 3: right over, but they another fourth down decision that was
Speaker 3: key was on their own forty nine to set up
Speaker 3: another fourth down, you know, touchdown on the goal line,
Speaker 3: like they kept possession, that one little extra possession and
Speaker 3: then the penalty on the Packers when they were potentially
Speaker 3: going in with under five minutes to go. It was
Speaker 3: a good call, just it was a pass interference on
Speaker 3: the offense and that backed them up and they weren't
Speaker 3: able to overcome that big penalty quite as easily as
Speaker 3: as the Lions were able to overcome a couple bigger penalties.
Speaker 3: But it's it's just small, small margins and the fact
Speaker 3: that only one team has pena Sewell Offensive Player of
Speaker 3: the Year candidate MVP candidate, Just give me some Sewell
Speaker 3: nerd them before we get out of here.
Speaker 4: Oh, I mean when Tim Patrick scores his second touchdown
Speaker 4: of the night, or no, excuse me, right before Tim
Speaker 4: Patrick scored a second touchdown of the night and pena
Speaker 4: Sewell is lead blocking for Aman Ross Saint Brown. I
Speaker 4: mean talk about like just like two just like football
Speaker 4: dudes doing football. You can bleet me, I'm sorry, but
Speaker 4: like Panay, Sewell is just hauling, just grading every road.
Speaker 4: It reminds me. It just reminds me of like you know,
Speaker 4: when you get the rainbow little you hit the rainbow
Speaker 4: car when you're playing Mario Kart and all of a sudden,
Speaker 4: you're like this unstoppable force and you could just drive
Speaker 4: through people and just bounce them out of your way,
Speaker 4: Like that's Pine Sewel and I love that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was great. He was great on the screens.
Speaker 3: As you mentioned, shout out to Jamison Williams just for
Speaker 3: going five for eighty. It's such a difference. He just
Speaker 3: didn't used to run normal routes. Frankly until like the
Speaker 3: very end of last year. He just had sort of
Speaker 3: Jamison and Williams routes, kind of the stuff you see
Speaker 3: with Xavier Worthy now in Kansas City or Mkole Hardman.
Speaker 3: It's like they're not really real wide receivers, and Jamison
Speaker 3: Williams is a big time real wide receiver. Laporta active
Speaker 3: in this game. He's picked it up a little lately.
Speaker 3: Just one last play that I wanted to point out.
Speaker 3: It doesn't have to be the last play. We can
Speaker 3: talk more, but the play where Tucker Kraft got walloped.
Speaker 3: I think it was from by Joseph and Arnold I
Speaker 3: can't even remember. It was two players by the Lions
Speaker 3: going down into the red zone and I was just like, oh,
Speaker 3: that was a hit. I mean, this whole game, they
Speaker 3: were physical. Both teams were so physical. It's awesome to watch.
Speaker 3: And then what do you call it that that Craft
Speaker 3: did to get off two hundred and sixty pounds man?
Speaker 4: Tucker Craft weighs two hundred and sixty pounds, probably closer
Speaker 4: to two eighty and a full helmet in pads, and
Speaker 4: he is literally down after getting absolutely shmacked by two
Speaker 4: defenders on that catch. He's down for like less than
Speaker 4: half a second before he does a kip up, which
Speaker 4: is basically an arch backward and you push up with
Speaker 4: your hands and your shoulders and you flip yourself up
Speaker 4: to a fully standing position. His knees didn't even buckle
Speaker 4: on that thing, man Like, he was just standing straight
Speaker 4: up from that kip up. I was like, that's absurd,
Speaker 4: that's egregious, that accut because.
Speaker 3: It couldn't have the whole game couldn't have been more
Speaker 3: like football guys as you say, and doing football things
Speaker 3: and hitting, but then also like incredible appeah, like.
Speaker 4: The most extraordinary athletes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy when you when you think back to
Speaker 3: how good that tight end class was a year ago.
Speaker 2: I mean, Craft is right there with.
Speaker 3: Laport and Laporte is awesome, but Craft is really come
Speaker 3: into his own in his second year. He showed flashes
Speaker 3: at the end of last year. But this young group
Speaker 3: for them is special.
Speaker 4: Tight Ends night it was a big night for the
Speaker 4: tight ends. They made some clutch plays. They were using
Speaker 4: them all across the blocking service. Both teams were both
Speaker 4: teams had tight ends that made crucial, crucial plays catches
Speaker 4: or sprang open blocks for them. I just thought it
Speaker 4: was super fun. This is like, this is like peak,
Speaker 4: Like this division is just going to be like this
Speaker 4: for a minute. And I love that and this kind
Speaker 4: of put it all on display everything it's capable of
Speaker 4: right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we'll get some more big games in this division,
Speaker 3: including the Vikings, you know, playing both these teams. We're
Speaker 3: not going to see these two teams play each other again.
Speaker 3: But huge win for the Lions. You get to twelve
Speaker 3: and one. I oh, man, man, I don't want to
Speaker 3: just say football is back, but you know, like when
Speaker 3: you get to see records, like wow, a team in
Speaker 3: the NFL is twelve wins.
Speaker 2: Now, like you know it. We're we're getting late in
Speaker 2: the year.
Speaker 3: But it was so important Jordan because they get a
Speaker 3: little extra rest Detroit. Just to spin it forward, a
Speaker 3: little bit, little extra rest before a game against the
Speaker 3: Bills next week.
Speaker 2: The Bills will be flying back.
Speaker 3: From Los Angeles on Sunday night or Monday morning to
Speaker 3: Buffalo and then have to come back to Detroit. So
Speaker 3: that's a that's a nice advantage and helps them maybe
Speaker 3: heal up just a little bit, maybe get some of
Speaker 3: those defensive linemen like Pascal or on Wuzueriki back. But
Speaker 3: you know what's crazy about that game, Jordan. It's a
Speaker 3: four to twenty five game. Okay, that makes sense, but
Speaker 3: it's the only week of the season where both networks
Speaker 3: have a double header. Shout out to Jimmy Traina on
Speaker 3: SI dot Com who pointed this out. I wouldn't have
Speaker 3: known it only week of the season where both teams
Speaker 3: have both networks have a double header. So we have
Speaker 3: I have Steelers Eagles, which is a great Week fifteen
Speaker 3: game opposite Bills and Lions ones on Fox, ones on CBS.
Speaker 3: That right there is actually your best three hours of
Speaker 3: intense football. I think all season to have those two
Speaker 3: games opposite each other. So I'm looking forward to that
Speaker 3: this season, and I love that the Lions held on
Speaker 3: to the one seed. Well, they're gonna have to earn
Speaker 3: it if they're gonna hold it all the way to
Speaker 3: the end, because they still have the Bills and the
Speaker 3: Vikings on their schedule.
Speaker 4: It's all fun as crap from here, Greg. It just
Speaker 4: is it freaking is to quote me quoting Dan Campbell, Okay.
Speaker 2: We did it.
Speaker 3: You joined me Jordan for the very first Thursday night
Speaker 3: football game of the season kickoff. You know, between the
Speaker 3: Ravens and the Chiefs.
Speaker 2: We got fun game. I like that. We only give
Speaker 2: you the.
Speaker 4: I only throw heat, Greg, I only throw.
Speaker 3: Heat, only the best for Jordan. Let's get out of here,
Speaker 3: Let's get in a sleep. She's got rams practice to
Speaker 3: get to in the morning. Awesome game. Only three Thursday
Speaker 3: night football games left, Jordan.
Speaker 2: That's crazy, oh man.
Speaker 3: When we've got Jordan's last t NF game of the
Speaker 3: year with us, you know, football is back.
Speaker 2: We'll be back for the picks on Friday. See you then,