1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: On fourth down, Jared up under center, turns, gives it 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: to my Umber gets the first down. Jared tripped as 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: he came out from behind center, handed it to Demo, 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: just barely got it to him. He got the first 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: down to the fourteen yard line. You left that clock 6 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 1: run now down to thirty and the Packers can't stop it. 7 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: Final play of the game, barring a penalty. Lion's going 8 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: for the win. It's gonna be Jake Bates from thirty 9 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: five yards out left Hash to try. 10 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 2: To win it for Detroit. 11 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: There it is Fox. The whole kick away is up. 12 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: It is good these Detroit Lions. You want to talk 13 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: about grit, beryl, You want to talk about determination? Do 14 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 1: you want to talk about resiliency? Fifteen is all of 15 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,639 Speaker 1: those things. What a night for the Detroit Lions. 16 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 3: You want to talk about the number one seed in 17 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 3: the NFC going through Detroit, We're one step closer to 18 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 3: that being a reality. 19 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 2: After the Lions. 20 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 3: Get a thirty four to thirty one victory and a 21 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 3: fantastic Thursday night football game. That was Dan Miller and 22 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 3: Lomas Brown on WXYT. I'm Greg Rosenthal, I'm in the 23 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 3: garage and when we got a big game. We need 24 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 3: a big time guest and analysts for one of the 25 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 3: best football nights of the year. We could only have 26 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 3: Jordan Rodrigue, and we had to play two plays Jordan 27 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 3: right off the top, because that told the story of 28 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 3: a night when Dan Campbell and this Lion's team was 29 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 3: not afraid of the moment. 30 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 2: They go for it on fourth and one with under 31 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 2: forty seconds to go. 32 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 3: They pick it up and they get the game winner 33 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:37,479 Speaker 3: from Jake Bates. 34 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 4: And I texted Greg Rosenthal in all Cats, Dan Onions Campbell, 35 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 4: My god, what a great game. 36 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 2: Let's go. 37 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:47,559 Speaker 4: Oh that ruled. 38 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 2: That ruled so much it did. 39 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 3: And our great producer Eric Roberts is saying, Ah, the 40 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 3: first half, you know, I was wondering if this game 41 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 3: was totally gonna deliver. 42 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 2: But a lot of times great game are like that. 43 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 3: There was the chess match early and we'll get to 44 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 3: everything that happened early, and they were feeling each other out. 45 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 3: But I found that all fascinating because you're watching this 46 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 3: game and you just know these are two of the 47 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 3: seven or eight teams that could win the Super Bowl 48 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 3: that are on the list where it's it's realistic, where 49 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 3: you can imagine it now. The Lions are right near 50 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 3: the top of that list, and that decision to go 51 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 3: for let's start there on fourth and one. I don't 52 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 3: think any other coach in the NFL is going for 53 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 3: it there. But he does not want to give the 54 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 3: ball back to Jordan Love and he is not afraid 55 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 3: of not picking that yard up, even though Jordan earlier 56 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 3: in the second half they set up a short Packers 57 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 3: field goal by going for fourth and one inside their 58 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:51,239 Speaker 3: own thirty. That play did not work out, but five 59 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 3: times on this night they went for fourth down. Two 60 00:02:55,480 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 3: of them resulted in touchdowns, two others were converted that 61 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 3: last play, and to me, it's just next level thinking. 62 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 3: Do you trust your defense or do you know that 63 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 3: you're an offensive team and confident that you can pick 64 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 3: up one yard there and end the game. 65 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,239 Speaker 4: Well, it's true to who they are. I mean, listen man, 66 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 4: And I know I sounded like Dan Campbell there. I've 67 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 4: been working on that. Listen man, No, they same sounds 68 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 4: great coming from you, Greg. The ethos of who they are, 69 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 4: I mean, this is who this team is they. I 70 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 4: mean you saw on the Amazon Prime broadcast. You saw 71 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 4: the close up shot of Dan Campbell, and his jaw 72 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 4: was set and his eyes were like dead inside right, 73 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 4: and he was ready to go. And then Alan Kirk 74 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,839 Speaker 4: on the broadcast were sitting, Oh yeah, they're gonna try 75 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 4: to get him to jump right, And everybody in the 76 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 4: audience at home, I am certain, was like, they're gonna 77 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 4: freaking go for it right here, only if only to 78 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 4: kill clock and to set up the field goal and 79 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 4: a ch little chip shot a little bit, a little 80 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 4: bit further away than that, but an easier field goal 81 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 4: for Ja Bates, who has been nails all season since 82 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 4: they picked him up earlier this summer. And it is 83 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 4: just so cool to see a team be who it 84 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 4: is and you can't do anything about it. And the 85 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 4: Packers did, I think, just about there's a couple of 86 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 4: little nitpicks. We're going to have just about everything they could. 87 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 4: I just hit my own microphone. I'm so heck and 88 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 4: fired up this. They did everything they possibly could, you know, 89 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 4: with with it. Just this is who the Lions are. 90 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 4: And part of me too, was relishing that short yardage 91 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 4: fourth down and that fourth and one right almost almost 92 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 4: unnecessary depending on who you asked. But if you're Dan Campbell, 93 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 4: if you're the Lions. That is necessary because Jordan Love 94 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 4: was starting to heat up on the other side, executing 95 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 4: some beautiful throws late in the game, getting the keeping 96 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 4: the Green Bay Packers in it, keeping it tight, taking 97 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 4: a couple of leads, and Dan Campbell I feel like 98 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 4: almost a part of him and I want to believe 99 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 4: this went for it there almost because they failed on 100 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 4: the previous one. He's like, I everyone all the talking 101 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 4: heads on the shows tomorrow morning to shut the hell up, 102 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 4: because we're gonna get this one. 103 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 3: I do I think Campbell thinks that, But I do 104 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 3: think he thinks about it. I think that what it 105 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 3: says to the team that this is who we are 106 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 3: and we're gonna keep doing this. But I think he 107 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 3: is so good at game management because he plays to 108 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 3: the strings and he knows that the Packers scored every 109 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 3: single one of those thirty one points Jordan in the 110 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 3: previous six drives. So that's thirty one points in six drives. 111 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 3: That's four touchdowns in a field goal. The Lions were 112 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 3: able to force the Packers to kick a field goal 113 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 3: with about three minutes and forty seconds to go, and 114 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 3: that almost felt like a death sentence. The Lions are 115 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 3: so good on offense that you thought, ooh, them tying 116 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 3: it at thirty one with under four to go, I 117 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 3: just bet they're going to kill the clock and kick 118 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 3: a field goal. And that is what happened. But before that, 119 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 3: it was four straight touchdowns by the Packers. The Lions defense, 120 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 3: which I thought was really no in this game, and 121 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 3: they're so shorthanded and started out really well, and they 122 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 3: picked the team up early when the offense actually wasn't amazing. 123 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 3: They punted a couple of times and Goff had that interception. 124 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 3: In their first six drives, it's a team game. It's 125 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 3: complimentary and and Dan Campbell knows who can compliment. Now, 126 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 3: let's just back up a second in that drive, because 127 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 3: I say it, it felt like a FATA company. It's 128 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 3: gonna happen, But there's multiple moments where they got to 129 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 3: go make it happen. 130 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 2: It's third and nine. 131 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 3: And you get Jamir Gibbs, who as a receiver is 132 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 3: such a difference maker. 133 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 2: He caught that fourth down for a touchdown. 134 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 3: You got to pick up that third and nine or 135 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 3: you have another really difficult fourth down decision, or you're 136 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 3: kicking a field goal with a ton of time left. 137 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 2: Of course they pick it up. 138 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 3: You have second and seventeen after a questionable holding call, 139 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 3: and it's just like they'll probably pick up the second 140 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 3: and seventeen. 141 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 2: But you can't take it for granted. 142 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 3: Jared Goff is just so awesome, you know, throwing it 143 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 3: over the middle on those in breakers he gets sixteen yards. 144 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 3: That was to Saint Brown, right, you know, they're just 145 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 3: short of fourth down, and they were a little up 146 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 3: and down in short yardage on third downs for most 147 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:09,679 Speaker 3: of the night, and that set up the big decision. 148 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 3: But all the credit goes to GoF too for other 149 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 3: than the interception, I think playing a fantastic game and 150 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 3: him and the lines being able to execute in those 151 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 3: huge moments. 152 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 4: Yes, he ended the game on a thirteen pass heater 153 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 4: like talk about clutch, I mean. 154 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 3: After wait, no incomplations, you mean in thirteen in a row. 155 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 4: Correct, Yeah, no, missus. And to aman Rossaint Brown of 156 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 4: course on one of those inbreakers, those digs that the 157 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 4: Packers for some reason could not cover all night, and 158 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 4: they were doing a hell of a job. The Packers were, 159 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 4: I think against this Lion's offense. They were getting a 160 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 4: ton of penetration up front. They were winning the line 161 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 4: of scrimmage a lot. They forced the Lions to go 162 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 4: into their screen game. We'll talk about some of the 163 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 4: moves and counter moves in a second, but that after 164 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 4: that interception, Jared GoF settled in so well, in part 165 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 4: because Ben Johnson and he got in their bag on 166 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 4: some of these misdirection plays, some of the screens, some 167 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 4: of the quick passes, some of the different things that 168 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 4: settle a quarterback down. And then he started heating up 169 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 4: and he was so confident, and even on that handoff 170 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 4: on the fourth and one, he falls down because he 171 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 4: gets stepped on and he still gets the hand off 172 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 4: to the back right, and you're having a heart attack 173 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 4: watching it because you're like, this gangly creature is just 174 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 4: flying all over the dang backfield because he gets stepped 175 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 4: on and it still works out. Because this is a 176 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 4: tough team. They are tough minded. They embody their head coach, 177 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 4: they embody their city, they embody each other. They trust 178 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 4: each other. That was clear up and down, even in 179 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 4: the clutch moments that they had to execute on that 180 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 4: last drive, in the calls that their head coach made. Situationally, 181 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 4: it just is so clear this team absolutely knows who 182 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 4: it is and what it can accomplish. This is the 183 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 4: sixth one possession game they have won this season. That 184 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 4: is the third most in the NFL. And a lot 185 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 4: of it has come down to having the confidence because 186 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 4: they've blown some teams out, But a lot of it, 187 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 4: too has come down to having the confidence to just 188 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 4: suffocate the opponent and squeeze out these late drives. 189 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:16,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, you sent that stat to me. 190 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 3: I was really surprised because you think the Lions have 191 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 3: so many blots, and they do, but they've won so 192 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 3: many games at this point that more than half their 193 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 3: games have been one score games. They lost that one 194 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 3: to the Bucks where it was a weird game where 195 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 3: they almost double them in yardage, and then they've won 196 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 3: all the rest of them. Let's hear from Dan Campbell 197 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 3: on that fourth down decision. 198 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 5: I just, you know, I felt like I just felt 199 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 5: like we needed to end it on offense, you know, 200 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 5: and I did not want to give that ball back. 201 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 5: And I believe we could get that. I believe we 202 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,319 Speaker 5: can convert, you know. And I trusted that old line. 203 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 5: I trusted David, and they came through fourth sense A 204 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 5: hell of a call by Ben you know, it just 205 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 5: I knew how I wanted to play this game, the 206 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 5: team knew it, and and everything in me told me 207 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 5: that let's let's finish this, and so we did. 208 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 4: I love how he talks after these things, like after this, 209 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 4: it's almost like he's pleading. I don't know why his 210 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 4: tone is like that, because we all are in man like, 211 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,719 Speaker 4: we're all we're all I don't think, no, no, no, I'm 212 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 4: saying his tone. I'm not saying he is doing that. 213 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 4: I'm saying his tone is like that, urging that please, 214 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Like that that it's almost 215 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 4: like taking so much out of him just to complete 216 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 4: the sentences because of how much the game took out 217 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 4: of him, and and like just you know, it's just 218 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 4: it's very earnest, I would say, And and it's very 219 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 4: every time. We're used to it now for several years, 220 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 4: and you don't really quite get used to it because 221 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 4: you don't hear coaches talk like that after games. 222 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 3: I read it more as he has put like you 223 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 3: just said, he has put everything into this game, and 224 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 3: then he just spoke to his team afterwards, and it's. 225 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 2: Almost it's almost all. 226 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 3: Out of it, and it's taking everything of him to 227 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 3: even put himself back in those moments to like explain 228 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 3: where it is. 229 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 2: And I love it. It's it's so human. It's firing 230 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 2: me up. 231 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm I think I need to take off 232 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 3: my embarrassing winter coat that I'm wearing in the garage 233 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 3: still and get comfortable for the rest of the show. 234 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 3: Let's actually listen to another fourth down call. While we're 235 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 3: thinking about fourth down calls, I want to back it 236 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 3: up actually to the fourth down call, the first fourth 237 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 3: down touchdown. It's Jared Goff finding Jamir Gibbs. This is 238 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 3: in the first half to end it. It's on it 239 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,319 Speaker 3: at a ten to seven score. It's basically a seven 240 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 3: point play. It's going to change how you feel about 241 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 3: the end of the first half. 242 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:46,959 Speaker 2: Golf is going to work out of the gun. 243 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: He's got Gibbs to his right. Jared takes the snap 244 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: back looking throwing heads on a touchdown. Detroit lyons you 245 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: can't cough with that man. Jamiir Gibbs on the preceding end, 246 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: what a sick route that time you go like deals 247 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 1: that can stick his foot in the ground the way 248 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: he does and come out of this break. 249 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 2: There's no line back to could cover Hill. 250 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 3: That is such an awesome play call, also an awesome 251 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 3: job by me knowing how embarrassing it would be to 252 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 3: take off the coat during the podcast, and that's how 253 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 3: I know the. 254 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 2: Game is going down for me. 255 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 3: I'm like, I need a highlight to take it off 256 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 3: because it was it was embarrassing. But that that play 257 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 3: gets to Ben Johnson's brilliance. There were so many moments 258 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 3: Jordan where he isolated on just the gotta have it 259 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 3: type of plays. Whether it was tim Bett Patrick on 260 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 3: an inbreaker on another fourth down call, whether it was 261 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 3: Gibbs there, whether it was Gibbs on that third down, 262 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 3: even the very first third down of the game. I'm 263 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 3: thinking how he got a mon Ross Saint Brown matched 264 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 3: up on Javon Buller, the Packers' safety. The It wasn't 265 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 3: perfect because the Packers defense was out there too, and 266 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 3: they were getting pressure and they did a lot of 267 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 3: good things, but on the biggest plays of the game, 268 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 3: they were getting the guys they wanted and they executed. 269 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 3: And it really speaks to me of how great this 270 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 3: backfield is. Because we just said how great Montgomery is 271 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 3: and how much faith he has his success rate tonight 272 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 3: was outstanding. 273 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 2: It was well over fifty percent. Gibbs's was terrible. 274 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 3: Actually, Gibbs did not run the ball well, but Gibbs 275 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 3: in the passing game was everything. 276 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 2: Had some of the biggest plays in the game. 277 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was impressive to watch the adjustments in this game. 278 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 4: Tim Patrick, by the way, two touchdowns tonight after going 279 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 4: over a thousand days since his last touchdown. And like 280 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 4: I've said this before, I think I've said this to 281 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 4: you too. What a love match between Tim Patrick and 282 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 4: the Detroit Like what a perfect fit between Tim Patrick 283 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 4: and the Detroit LANs. He does everything well that they want, 284 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 4: that they need from him to do, and they reward 285 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 4: him for it. And this is this was cool and 286 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 4: he got it was cool to watch him getting the 287 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 4: two game balls, and like how hyped up he was, 288 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 4: and what a cool moment for him after those injuries 289 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 4: and then the team change and all of that. But 290 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 4: I loved the coaching in this and for both sides 291 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 4: of the ball. I questioned a couple of Matt Lafleur's 292 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 4: decision making. There was a delay he took in the 293 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 4: third quarter that was a punt. Their recommendation for that 294 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 4: was to go, but you know, we can nitpick over 295 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 4: those things. I really thought that the coordinators and the 296 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 4: play callers in this game, and minus even taking out 297 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 4: because we've talked a lot about the situational stuff, but 298 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 4: taking that out for a second, I thought the adjustments 299 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 4: making the most of the players that they had adjusting 300 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 4: extremely quickly, not just half to half, but drive to drive. 301 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 4: And we can go deeper in on this in a minute. 302 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 4: But I was so impressed by Jeff Hafley with Green Bay. 303 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 4: I was impressed by the game that Matt Lafluor called 304 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 4: in the way he adjusted situational stuff aside and there 305 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 4: was some you know, we can nitpick to the cows 306 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 4: come home either side of the ball, but I was 307 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 4: impressed with it. With the coaching there. I was really 308 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 4: impressed with Aaron Glenn. I always am because he's done 309 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 4: a hell of a job this year. But they are 310 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 4: decimated just over a dozen players to injury. They lost 311 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 4: Alee McNeil to a concussion or a potential they're calling 312 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 4: it a head injury, but he was in the concussion 313 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 4: protocol earlier in the game. They lost him, which is 314 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 4: obviously huge because the interior of their defensive line is 315 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 4: already decimated. The exterior of their defensive line is decimated. 316 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 4: Jonah freaking Williams, who was just in LA last week 317 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 4: and I said hey to him in the hallway, is 318 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 4: there now starting for them, playing for the meaningful snaps 319 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 4: for them. 320 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 3: Practice squad stop your there just on participation in the 321 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 3: very first drive of the game for the Packers, so 322 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 3: essentially starting. Quant Alexander's out there. I'm like, wait, he's 323 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 3: on the lines. I honestly didn't know Quant Alexander's out there. 324 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 3: Jamal Adams is out there, who just came in this week. 325 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 3: Janah Williams is out there, who is just in Los Angeles. 326 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 3: And then yeah, you mentioned Ali McNeil goes out, Brian 327 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 3: Branch went out in the second half of this scheme. 328 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 3: Look like they've comes so much and the guys that 329 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 3: were making place for them, like Pad O'Connor was actually 330 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 3: it's like, oh, it was like a big factor some pressures. 331 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 3: They needed their defense to just get a couple stops 332 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 3: to let their offense win the game. And whether that 333 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 3: sometimes it comes early, sometimes it comes late, and for 334 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 3: them it came early, like by the second half, and 335 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 3: we can talk you can talk about the adjustments the 336 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 3: Packers made. The Packers had basically figured them out, but 337 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 3: they did get enough stops early while the Lions offense 338 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 3: wasn't humming, and they did force a turnover Carlton Davis 339 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 3: with a nice play on a Christian Watson catch. You 340 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 3: had a great night. Otherwise that they did enough, and 341 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 3: that's that's what winning in the NFL, and that's what's 342 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 3: so impressive. I love a team full of just like 343 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 3: it's okay to have excellence. Maybe they won't make it 344 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 3: to the super Bowl for this regular season, though they 345 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 3: are an example of excellence and I like that being rewarded. 346 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 4: You know, that could have been huge too, because after 347 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 4: that the Lions only got three points out of that 348 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 4: fumble recovery. On the other side, that was when the 349 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 4: Packers defense, I think was at their peak right there, 350 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 4: forcing the Lions into their A and B plus plans 351 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 4: for a minute there before that game ending drive. What 352 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 4: I really loved about I'm gonna start with what Ben 353 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 4: Johnson did with his opening script, and I am always 354 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 4: such a huge fan of how he so for listeners 355 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 4: who might not know the opening script, most teams, most 356 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 4: offensive coordinators or offensive play callers on a team, they'll 357 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 4: use like a ten to fifteen play sequence and they 358 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 4: will basically organize that play sheet in that manner. And 359 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 4: it's not necessarily intended to react to what a defense 360 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 4: is doing, but to assert looks on a defense, to 361 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 4: force the defense to react to you in certain ways, 362 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 4: and if it goes as planned, you can get some 363 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 4: answers as to how defenses will react to certain looks 364 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 4: that you show, especially pre snap, especially what you do 365 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 4: with motion, especially you know, and a lot of times 366 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 4: because it is such an assertive plan and you're doing 367 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:52,159 Speaker 4: different things, teams that are good can score on that 368 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 4: opener and then forces the defense to then go to 369 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 4: its reaction plan versus play by play reaction. But what 370 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 4: I love what Ben Johnson does with his script is 371 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 4: he does freaking everything with that thing. Man Like he 372 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 4: he'll go like he'll he'll cluster the type the two 373 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 4: tight ends together and motion one across the stack and 374 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 4: then bring them back, and then motion one on an 375 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,679 Speaker 4: exit outside and then bring him back and then they 376 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 4: run the ball in like duo, or he'll have an 377 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 4: eye formation which he opened, or he'll exit motion. I'm 378 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 4: monra in a in a different on different sides of 379 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 4: the stack to the outside each time to see which 380 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 4: defenders move, or they'll hard count, or they'll change the cadence, 381 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 4: they'll change the speed of their motions. They do this 382 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 4: all on what is a very balanced run past script. 383 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:40,880 Speaker 4: So instead of saying, you know, a lot of times 384 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 4: you'll see past past pass, past pass, I want to 385 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 4: see where our passing voids are because I want to 386 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 4: get a quick lead to allow ourselves to stay on 387 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 4: our A plus plan. They don't care, because they know 388 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 4: that they can run the hell out of the ball too, 389 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 4: and they need to understand where their run voids are 390 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 4: where they can create space and blocking structure within the 391 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:59,439 Speaker 4: run game as well. So he does all of it, 392 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 4: and you could see that on their opening drive the 393 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 4: Lions had, excuse me, the Packers' defense had to react 394 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 4: to one hundred different things just in that sequence of 395 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 4: like what ten a dozen plays, whatever. 396 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 2: It was, and they still got their touchdown. 397 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 4: And they still got their touchdown, which is what makes 398 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 4: the Lions so good, in my opinion, one of the 399 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 4: many things, because they could then stay in their A 400 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 4: plus plan. Now bear with me, Greg, bear with me, listener, 401 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 4: because I know, I'm in geek out, freak out mode. 402 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 4: So what I really really loved then that the Packers 403 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 4: and Jeff Hafley did was he just really that defensive 404 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 4: line just got going and they started really getting after 405 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 4: Jared Goff. Jared Goff started getting under duress by their 406 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 4: defensive line. But then also they were getting movement in 407 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 4: the run game too. They were getting penetration. They weren't 408 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 4: just winning at the line of scrimmage, they were getting 409 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 4: into the backfield. Kenny Clark had a freaking phenomenal game 410 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 4: in year nine and he was in the backfield all 411 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:57,640 Speaker 4: the time. Okay, so then. 412 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,479 Speaker 3: Him coming on there lately is one of the most 413 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,439 Speaker 3: important things that's happening to the backers because he had 414 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 3: about the worst six to seven game stretch of his 415 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 3: entire career. I would say, to start this season and 416 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 3: you can see this building. It's coming each and every 417 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 3: week because they need their stars to step up. Rashan 418 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 3: Gary also had a nice sack which was big for 419 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 3: them too. 420 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, and they were winning the line of scrimmage and yes, 421 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 4: I know, and I got a couple of blue Sky 422 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,199 Speaker 4: tweet postset me or whatever it was people saying well, 423 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 4: we're missing a couple of lignement. Yes, I know, you 424 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,719 Speaker 4: still have one of the best GD lines in the NFL. 425 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 2: Minus and they got Kevin Zeisler back. 426 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 3: He left again briefly, but he did come back. So 427 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 3: they're only missing one. Let's come down, Yes. 428 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 4: And it's still I mean god like, Dan Skipper is 429 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 4: still great man like, look at him in the screen game. 430 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 4: So then, speaking speaking of that, so those dlignements, So 431 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 4: when they're getting penetration like that, and I'm gesturing, so 432 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 4: if you're watching on YouTube, I'm sorry because I look 433 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 4: like a psycho person right now. But they're moving north 434 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 4: to south when they're getting when they're getting penetration like that, 435 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 4: when they're winning the line of scrimmage, they're going north 436 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 4: to south. So what does mad scientist Christian Bale in 437 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 4: The Big Short do the freaking drum kit besides whaling metallica? 438 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 4: But he starts to move this defensive line side to side. 439 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 3: Right, Wait, wait a second, you can't just you can't 440 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 3: just call out Christian Bale from The Big Short and 441 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 3: think anyone knows what you're talking about. 442 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 4: Ben Johnson reminds me of Christian Bale in the Big short, 443 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 4: keep up. 444 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 3: Well, actually we actually have a picture, Jordan. You didn't 445 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 3: know this, but let's show that up on the screen. 446 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 3: Continue talking, Well, we show the Christian Bale picture. 447 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 2: Ben Johnson, I can see it. I can see it 448 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 2: playing on the drums. I love that, man. 449 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 4: Okay, so stay with me, guys. So they're moving north 450 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 4: to south right when they're penetrating in that way, right. 451 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 4: But then now Ben Johnson says, okay, let me go 452 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 4: to page five in my playbook and we're going to 453 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 4: go screen game right. So they start to deploy. There 454 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 4: a wide variety of screens, screens that move to the outside, 455 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 4: screens that I'm figuring out and investigating a little bit 456 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 4: that do this cool thing where they look like a 457 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 4: tunnel screen. But then they work their way up the scene, 458 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 4: which is really cool. They start doing these things that 459 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 4: basically extend their run game. But they also start moving 460 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 4: in the past game the defensive line from side to side, 461 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 4: so they can't get that penetration. They can't go north 462 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 4: to south. And this game, Greg was full of those 463 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 4: little hit my mic again drive to drive counter adjustments 464 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,199 Speaker 4: that were so it wasn't just like oh, you go 465 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 4: in at halftime and you make adjustments and all of that. 466 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,959 Speaker 4: It was drive to drive. When Jordan Love was getting 467 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 4: the crap blitzed out of him early in the game, 468 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 4: four of the Lions brought great pressure four of his 469 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 4: five for initial dropbacks he faced the blitz, he only 470 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 4: completed two passes for twenty three yards. At that time, 471 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 4: Matt Lafleur is like, all right, we're going to run 472 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 4: seven consecutive times. It was all of these moves and 473 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 4: counter moves, and it was just a masterclass in like 474 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 4: that type of coaching. We could take the situational stuff 475 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 4: out and put it in another bucket, but that type 476 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 4: of adjustment, understanding your personnel, understanding where you're limited, understanding 477 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 4: moves and counter moves like that. I freaking loved this 478 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 4: game for that reason. I did two and my face 479 00:22:59,000 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 4: is really red ray. 480 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 3: And it's why these two coaching staffs are two of 481 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 3: the six or seven best coaching staffs, whatever you want 482 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 3: to put on it. There's a lot of great coaching staffs. Now, Hefley, 483 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 3: we're still learning about him. And I tried to come 484 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 3: up with a comp for him. You could put him up, 485 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 3: and the best I could do is I was thinking 486 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 3: of Michael Stolberg from a serious man but also a 487 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 3: great character actor. He's a Boardwalk Empire but one of 488 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 3: my favorite Cohen Brothers movie. He kind of reminds me 489 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 3: a little of Hefley, and we're still learning about Hefley. 490 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 3: And as a big picture thought, I think Packers fans 491 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 3: do have to wonder. It's not really about the coaching, 492 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 3: but if you're gonna go to the Super Bowl this year, 493 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 3: you're now gonna have to win three straight road games, 494 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 3: very difficult to do, and you're probably gonna have to 495 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 3: beat the Lions and or the Eagles on the way 496 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 3: to doing it, probably both. Is this defense, even with 497 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 3: the and everything like, do they have enough to hang 498 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 3: in games like that? And and if not? In tonight, 499 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 3: I think they showed what the recipe needs to be. 500 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 3: Can your offense just be more special than the other offense? 501 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 3: Can you win a game like this where you make 502 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 3: fewer mistakes? Because the Lions are probably gonna be healthier 503 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 3: and figure some things out defensively, and the Eagles defense 504 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 3: is fantastic, So as good as the Packers offense is, 505 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 3: and I think as improved as the Packers defense is 506 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 3: because they do force turnovers and they're not a siev 507 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,880 Speaker 3: like they were a year ago. Are both of those 508 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 3: sides good enough in the end? Maybe in a one 509 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 3: game sample, but man, it's gotta be hard. It's gonna 510 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 3: be hard in that one game sample, and it's got 511 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 3: to be really hard to do it back to back 512 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 3: weeks against these types of teams. So I think it's 513 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 3: a really good Packers team. I think nine to four 514 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 3: is an appropriate record for this team. And Jordan Love 515 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 3: made some throws in the the second half of this 516 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 3: game that cemented why he is on quarterback Island. 517 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 2: They were just awesome. 518 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they were able to hang in this game, 519 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 3: but ultimately they weren't quite special enough to even be 520 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 3: a banged up Lions team. So that's more just taking 521 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 3: the step back, even though I think there's so many 522 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 3: positive things to think about them looking forward, what do 523 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 3: you agree or disagree? Like, not really talking about the 524 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 3: schemes and all that, but just on a bigger picture. 525 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 4: Level, I mean, I think because you are going to 526 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 4: expect this defense to grow up with the coordinator, this 527 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 4: first time defense. I mean, he's been a defensive coordinator 528 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 4: obviously in football, but in terms of the NFL like 529 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 4: working with this staff, working with this personnel, fitting different 530 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 4: personnel to the defense. I think the way that he 531 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 4: brought this defensive line and they themselves, the players obviously 532 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 4: deserve all the credit as well, but the way that 533 00:25:56,359 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 4: he brought this line to life was striking to me 534 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 4: because they were so active on a snap to snap basis. 535 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 4: They were so active and yes, you saw scheme, a 536 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 4: combination of scheme timing and very gifted players on the 537 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 4: Lion's side make these big plays happen right in spurts 538 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 4: and phases, but when you watch like the way that 539 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 4: they it just they seem so active the entire game 540 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 4: to me, like the Lions offensive line just completely had 541 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 4: their hands full. And then when they were I mean, 542 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,679 Speaker 4: I will say like I really don't want anyone and 543 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 4: nobody will on the show I know, but like Jared 544 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,679 Speaker 4: Goff is not the same Jarre Goff that we know 545 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 4: from reputationally in the Alan and Kirk just could not 546 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,919 Speaker 4: help but bring up on the broadcast tonight, like this 547 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 4: dude is calm, he's collected, he works incredibly well under pressure. 548 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 4: He really let had pressure really got to him and 549 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 4: flustered him on one possession really and then he recovered 550 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 4: and it was a it was a team effort where 551 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,959 Speaker 4: he was leading the charge and leading the way, of course, 552 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 4: but it was a group, a collective that is so 553 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 4: clicking and sync playing together, you know, a four wheeled 554 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 4: death machine that just understood how to just settle and 555 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 4: get back get back on track with some of the 556 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 4: like I said, some of that quick. 557 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 2: Was it under pressure that much though in the in 558 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 2: the end now part of it the ball. 559 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 4: But that one possession where Jeff Hafley I think picked 560 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 4: his spots incredibly well to dial up specific types of 561 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 4: pressure that was going to get home or force the 562 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 4: throw or or his defensive backs you know, made the 563 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 4: play where they needed to those types of things. I 564 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 4: think that is extremely promising from this Packers group. And 565 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 4: I think if they would have opened up understanding, you know, yes, 566 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 4: we really need to heat my quarterback up. If you're 567 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 4: you know, Matt Lafleur, Yes we got to heat him up, 568 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:51,959 Speaker 4: so we got to throw the ball a little bit. 569 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 4: I get that. But if they opened up with that 570 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 4: like we're going to run, try to run it down 571 00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 4: your throat against your battered defensive front versus some of 572 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 4: the dropbacks that he took, I think if they're the 573 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,160 Speaker 4: adjustment had happened. I know it happened quick, and I'm 574 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 4: praising that, but I think if that was the A 575 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 4: plus plan versus, oh my god, we're down all of 576 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 4: a sudden, like, what's our A plus plan? What's our 577 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 4: B plan? Like, I think that's where you maybe are 578 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 4: seeing them go toe to toe a little bit earlier 579 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 4: in the game, and then they ended up heating up 580 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 4: and taking the lead in a couple spots. I think 581 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 4: it was back really gat about this. 582 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was so hard for one aspect of either 583 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 3: team to get a foothold because I think, like, oh wow, 584 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 3: Josh Jacobs ran really well in this game. They were 585 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 3: fishing in the red zone when they got down there, 586 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 3: he scored, He had some good runs. But the reality is, 587 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 3: other than that first drive in the second quarter, the 588 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 3: Lion's defense, as they've done all year, no matter who's 589 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 3: on the field, did a pretty good job stopping the 590 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 3: run in the rest of the second half, and it 591 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 3: did take love making those throws. And Packers fans who 592 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 3: are listening appreciates y'all, because I hate listening to stuff 593 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 3: like if it pains me. For me, it's more Celtics, 594 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 3: But like I listened to a a couple of Celtics podcast, 595 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 3: especially Green with Van b shout out to them. But 596 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 3: if it's a painful loss, like I'm not listening to 597 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 3: that podcast, the Packers fans will know. Yeah, we're really 598 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 3: banged up too. We don't have jay R Alexander, who 599 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 3: is the most important player in our secondary along with 600 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 3: Davi or McKinney. We lost Evan Williams, who if you 601 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 3: had a ten person list for defensive Rookie of the 602 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 3: Year would be on it and is really important. And 603 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 3: I think did Javon Boullard come go in and out 604 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 3: of this game two? I think he came back in. 605 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 4: Yeah. 606 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 3: That's a lot though, And you didn't have Romeo Dobbs 607 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 3: in this game. So there are really important players for 608 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 3: the Packers that especially in the secondary. Alexander is absolutely 609 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 3: a difference maker and they could have them back for 610 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 3: a rematch, and there might be a rematch. Just again 611 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 3: thinking big picture, and we can dive in a little 612 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 3: more in this game, but again thinking. 613 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 2: Big picture, I love this rivalry is awesome. 614 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 3: This division is awesome because I think the defining Lions 615 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 3: game of the Dan Campbell era so far is still 616 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 3: the Week eighteen win over the Packers to knock Aaron 617 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 3: Rodgers out of the playoffs in his final game as 618 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 3: a Packers when the Lions quote unquote had nothing to 619 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 3: play for, Like that to me was everything this Lions 620 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 3: team is about. But it's gone back and forth. I 621 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 3: was getting flashbacks tonight, Jordan. I don't know if you 622 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 3: remember the Lions lost in Detroit last year at home 623 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 3: to the Packers, in large part because they called a 624 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 3: fake punt in their own end late in the game 625 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 3: that the Packers stopped and then scored on a short 626 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 3: field and won. And so when the Lions went for 627 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 3: that fourth and one and didn't get it in the 628 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 3: Packers and then took advantage, I guarantee you there were 629 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 3: a lot of Lions fans were like, oh, this is 630 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 3: exactly like last year. The difference tonight being all night 631 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 3: Jared Goff and the Lions offense responded right away anytime 632 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 3: when he had the turnover, when they gave up a touchdown, 633 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 3: they responded right away with a really cold, calculated drive. 634 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 3: And that's what great teams do. What a what a 635 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 3: freaking to use your man, I'm now sounding like you 636 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 3: just being around here. What a freaking cool rivalry this 637 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 3: is Lions Packers. I hope we see a third one 638 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 3: in the playoffs this year. 639 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. Also, something I noticed that's really cool. Are you 640 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 4: did you wear a shacket underneath your giant jacket? Oh? 641 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was going three layers this guy. 642 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, just just checking. 643 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 3: Okay, let's let's take a quick break. We will be back. 644 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 3: There's so much to get to with this great game. 645 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 3: We've talked about. 646 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 2: The Lions so much in this podcast. Let's give some 647 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 2: love to our guy, Jordan. Let's go, cow man, let's go. 648 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 2: Let's go to his. 649 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 3: Touchdown to Tucker Craft in the first half. This was 650 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 3: a big play in the game, loving. 651 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 2: The shotgun with the set back to his right. 652 00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 1: Third down and Tan, here's a snap lit on Zuke 653 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: Tucker Crap touchco touchdown, Green Bay Packers. 654 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 2: There you go. 655 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 1: Oh a tracer, A tracer from Jordan. 656 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 2: Love and they beat Carlton Davis. 657 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:17,719 Speaker 3: Wow, great call there by Wayne Lairvie on W R ANDW. 658 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 3: Just to correct myself, that was early in the third quarter. 659 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 4: Second half. 660 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 3: Get on the board and yeah to make it seventeen fourteen, 661 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 3: and that was a drive where Love made. 662 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 2: A couple of beautiful throws. 663 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 3: Really throughout the second half, he was absolutely nails. 664 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, and his player showed up for him. You know, 665 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 4: there was a fumble earlier. That was Watson, right, who 666 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 4: fumbled that earlier in the game, and he ended up 667 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 4: making like one of the more I mean, the throw 668 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 4: itself was just filthy, sick, right, but then like the 669 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 4: catch that he made because the dB had like two 670 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 4: fingers on it, right, and the focus to kind of 671 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 4: catch it against his face mask a little bit down 672 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 4: the field. I think that was a twenty six yarder. 673 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 2: That fifty nine. 674 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 4: Too, Yeah, and the twenty nine yarder with the focus 675 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 4: on the catch then, and I want, I just want 676 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 4: to hear you go full Greg on this next one. 677 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 4: The throw he made to Wix. I have it in 678 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 4: my notes as the insane QB Island throw pocket collapsing 679 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 4: in all cats. And then I have in parentheses, let 680 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 4: Greg cook. 681 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 2: Right, why let me cook anyway? 682 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 4: Cause you were so excited about it. I loved I 683 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 4: loved it. It was fantastic. 684 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 3: That's everything, that's everything you want in a quarterback right there, 685 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 3: it's it's the pocket movement, it's the quick pressure by 686 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 3: the Lions on a blitz on a play Jacobs did 687 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 3: not pick up the blitz, and that's a play the 688 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 3: defensive coordinator one. And that's what separates the very good 689 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 3: quarterbacks from the great ones. Where he just can overcome 690 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 3: a great defensive play call and a failure by his 691 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 3: running back. He picked up his running back to slide 692 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 3: in the pocket and then all getting hit while moving 693 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 3: left as a right handed quarterback and put that thing 694 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 3: on the money to Watson. It was a great catch. 695 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 3: There was no room to put that throw. And it 696 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 3: couldn't be no offense to her cousins. It couldn't be 697 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 3: one of those like layered throws like you're kind of 698 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 3: throwing it. 699 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 2: It's a touch pass. 700 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 3: That is a very difficult intermediate throw where you have 701 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,319 Speaker 3: to put some of that tracer on it too. And 702 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 3: Love is as physically gifted, I think it's fair to 703 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 3: say as any quarterback. I don't know if you want 704 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 3: to say someone is more or not, but as a 705 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 3: thrower of the football, he is so gifted. And Watson 706 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 3: came through four for one fourteen. He's playing really well lately. 707 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 3: And that's that's just a special play. And that's why 708 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,720 Speaker 3: all three of us, me, you and Steve were texting 709 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 3: at that point and I was like, Okay, he made 710 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 3: us proud. 711 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 2: We made the right decision. 712 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 3: Any dude making that freaking play needs to be on 713 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 3: QB Island. 714 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, and we'll just glass right over the fact that 715 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 4: we need to hold you to task for breaking the 716 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 4: rules of the rip tid card. But we'll get to 717 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 4: that in another time. The Jordan love I also what 718 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 4: I really appreciated watching from him. They would cut to 719 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 4: him on the sideline a lot. They would cut to him, 720 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 4: close ups of him underneath even his face masks, helmet. 721 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 4: He was so calm. I mean, he's fired up when 722 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 4: they would make a play, but he was so calm. 723 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 4: They got after him early, like Aaron Glenn dialed up 724 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 4: some nasty pressure against him, understanding that he entered the 725 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 4: game with some of the worst stats against the Blitz 726 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,839 Speaker 4: in the league. They were improving over the last couple 727 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 4: of weeks, but that was his resume to this point, 728 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 4: and it worked and they got after him. It was 729 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,320 Speaker 4: two passes of five dropbacks that came against the Blitz 730 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 4: for twenty three yards, like I said earlier, and they 731 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 4: were the quick little dump off you know, throws, and 732 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 4: he finished. The Lions still blitzed him at a sixty 733 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 4: three percent rate throughout the entire course of the game, 734 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 4: which is insane. Like the league average is what like 735 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 4: twenty eight percent, twenty six percent, ohly a. 736 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 3: Couple teams are over forty and it's so that's an 737 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:02,320 Speaker 3: insane number. 738 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 4: That is insane right then, And he finished nine for fourteen, 739 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 4: So this is inclusive to the struggle that he started with. 740 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 4: But he finished nine for fourteen with a touchdown specifically 741 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:17,880 Speaker 4: against the blitz he settled. And that's again, that's a 742 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,799 Speaker 4: quarterback who and Dan Campbell knew this. We circle back 743 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,359 Speaker 4: to it. He knew this when he was going for 744 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 4: that fourth down call to ic the game out with 745 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 4: the field goal. Is when Jordan Love heats up, good 746 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 4: luck stopping him because he's going to make play after 747 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 4: play after play and you are in danger against that man. 748 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:41,280 Speaker 3: And I do get a little worried about this Lion's secondary, 749 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 3: even though they've been great all year and josephin Brand 750 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 3: showed up at different moments tonight, Terry Arnold has a 751 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 3: couple plays every game that rookie plays very handsy, big penalty, 752 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,319 Speaker 3: gives up a big play and it's tough. You don't 753 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,799 Speaker 3: they actually at the first half of this game, because 754 00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 3: of the blitz and because of the scheme, I'm like, man, 755 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 3: they're past rush is better than when they had Aiden Hutchinson. 756 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 3: They were kind of struggling earlier this year. Now I 757 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 3: know they weren't blitzing like that, but they were making 758 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 3: it happen. But they were victimized by the end of 759 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 3: this game. And the margins they're just so small, and 760 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:17,279 Speaker 3: I just was thinking, maybe the Packers next year at 761 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 3: this time, it's such a young team, are just a 762 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,319 Speaker 3: little more ready. And all it comes down to is, 763 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,359 Speaker 3: you know, each team had a turnover, Each team went 764 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:28,800 Speaker 3: up and down the field. They were pretty good in 765 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 3: the red zone. The Packers punted three times, the Lions 766 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,760 Speaker 3: punted twice. And the reason the Lions only punted twice, 767 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 3: in part is because they went for those fourth downs. Now, 768 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,400 Speaker 3: one of those that they didn't punt, they handed it 769 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 3: right over, but they another fourth down decision that was 770 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,239 Speaker 3: key was on their own forty nine to set up 771 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,359 Speaker 3: another fourth down, you know, touchdown on the goal line, 772 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,880 Speaker 3: like they kept possession, that one little extra possession and 773 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 3: then the penalty on the Packers when they were potentially 774 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,360 Speaker 3: going in with under five minutes to go. It was 775 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 3: a good call, just it was a pass interference on 776 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 3: the offense and that backed them up and they weren't 777 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 3: able to overcome that big penalty quite as easily as 778 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 3: as the Lions were able to overcome a couple bigger penalties. 779 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,799 Speaker 3: But it's it's just small, small margins and the fact 780 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,759 Speaker 3: that only one team has pena Sewell Offensive Player of 781 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 3: the Year candidate MVP candidate, Just give me some Sewell 782 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 3: nerd them before we get out of here. 783 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 4: Oh, I mean when Tim Patrick scores his second touchdown 784 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,919 Speaker 4: of the night, or no, excuse me, right before Tim 785 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,479 Speaker 4: Patrick scored a second touchdown of the night and pena 786 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 4: Sewell is lead blocking for Aman Ross Saint Brown. I 787 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 4: mean talk about like just like two just like football 788 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 4: dudes doing football. You can bleet me, I'm sorry, but 789 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 4: like Panay, Sewell is just hauling, just grading every road. 790 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 4: It reminds me. It just reminds me of like you know, 791 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,760 Speaker 4: when you get the rainbow little you hit the rainbow 792 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 4: car when you're playing Mario Kart and all of a sudden, 793 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 4: you're like this unstoppable force and you could just drive 794 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,239 Speaker 4: through people and just bounce them out of your way, 795 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 4: Like that's Pine Sewel and I love that. 796 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:12,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was great. He was great on the screens. 797 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:17,799 Speaker 3: As you mentioned, shout out to Jamison Williams just for 798 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,440 Speaker 3: going five for eighty. It's such a difference. He just 799 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 3: didn't used to run normal routes. Frankly until like the 800 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,360 Speaker 3: very end of last year. He just had sort of 801 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 3: Jamison and Williams routes, kind of the stuff you see 802 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 3: with Xavier Worthy now in Kansas City or Mkole Hardman. 803 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,800 Speaker 3: It's like they're not really real wide receivers, and Jamison 804 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:41,560 Speaker 3: Williams is a big time real wide receiver. Laporta active 805 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 3: in this game. He's picked it up a little lately. 806 00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 3: Just one last play that I wanted to point out. 807 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 3: It doesn't have to be the last play. We can 808 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:56,839 Speaker 3: talk more, but the play where Tucker Kraft got walloped. 809 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,040 Speaker 3: I think it was from by Joseph and Arnold I 810 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,400 Speaker 3: can't even remember. It was two players by the Lions 811 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 3: going down into the red zone and I was just like, oh, 812 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,400 Speaker 3: that was a hit. I mean, this whole game, they 813 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:13,320 Speaker 3: were physical. Both teams were so physical. It's awesome to watch. 814 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,280 Speaker 3: And then what do you call it that that Craft 815 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 3: did to get off two hundred and sixty pounds man? 816 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 4: Tucker Craft weighs two hundred and sixty pounds, probably closer 817 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 4: to two eighty and a full helmet in pads, and 818 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:28,879 Speaker 4: he is literally down after getting absolutely shmacked by two 819 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 4: defenders on that catch. He's down for like less than 820 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,280 Speaker 4: half a second before he does a kip up, which 821 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,480 Speaker 4: is basically an arch backward and you push up with 822 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,319 Speaker 4: your hands and your shoulders and you flip yourself up 823 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 4: to a fully standing position. His knees didn't even buckle 824 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 4: on that thing, man Like, he was just standing straight 825 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,840 Speaker 4: up from that kip up. I was like, that's absurd, 826 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,879 Speaker 4: that's egregious, that accut because. 827 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,680 Speaker 3: It couldn't have the whole game couldn't have been more 828 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 3: like football guys as you say, and doing football things 829 00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 3: and hitting, but then also like incredible appeah, like. 830 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 4: The most extraordinary athletes. 831 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy when you when you think back to 832 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 3: how good that tight end class was a year ago. 833 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:11,960 Speaker 2: I mean, Craft is right there with. 834 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:16,799 Speaker 3: Laport and Laporte is awesome, but Craft is really come 835 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,320 Speaker 3: into his own in his second year. He showed flashes 836 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,840 Speaker 3: at the end of last year. But this young group 837 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:23,720 Speaker 3: for them is special. 838 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:25,799 Speaker 4: Tight Ends night it was a big night for the 839 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,920 Speaker 4: tight ends. They made some clutch plays. They were using 840 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,759 Speaker 4: them all across the blocking service. Both teams were both 841 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,680 Speaker 4: teams had tight ends that made crucial, crucial plays catches 842 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 4: or sprang open blocks for them. I just thought it 843 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 4: was super fun. This is like, this is like peak, 844 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,839 Speaker 4: Like this division is just going to be like this 845 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,239 Speaker 4: for a minute. And I love that and this kind 846 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,040 Speaker 4: of put it all on display everything it's capable of 847 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 4: right now. 848 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, and we'll get some more big games in this division, 849 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 3: including the Vikings, you know, playing both these teams. We're 850 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 3: not going to see these two teams play each other again. 851 00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,960 Speaker 3: But huge win for the Lions. You get to twelve 852 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,239 Speaker 3: and one. I oh, man, man, I don't want to 853 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 3: just say football is back, but you know, like when 854 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 3: you get to see records, like wow, a team in 855 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 3: the NFL is twelve wins. 856 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,719 Speaker 2: Now, like you know it. We're we're getting late in 857 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 2: the year. 858 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,759 Speaker 3: But it was so important Jordan because they get a 859 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:18,360 Speaker 3: little extra rest Detroit. Just to spin it forward, a 860 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:22,319 Speaker 3: little bit, little extra rest before a game against the 861 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 3: Bills next week. 862 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 2: The Bills will be flying back. 863 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 3: From Los Angeles on Sunday night or Monday morning to 864 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,320 Speaker 3: Buffalo and then have to come back to Detroit. So 865 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,759 Speaker 3: that's a that's a nice advantage and helps them maybe 866 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,400 Speaker 3: heal up just a little bit, maybe get some of 867 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,319 Speaker 3: those defensive linemen like Pascal or on Wuzueriki back. But 868 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 3: you know what's crazy about that game, Jordan. It's a 869 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,759 Speaker 3: four to twenty five game. Okay, that makes sense, but 870 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:50,520 Speaker 3: it's the only week of the season where both networks 871 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,799 Speaker 3: have a double header. Shout out to Jimmy Traina on 872 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,160 Speaker 3: SI dot Com who pointed this out. I wouldn't have 873 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,080 Speaker 3: known it only week of the season where both teams 874 00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,160 Speaker 3: have both networks have a double header. So we have 875 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:04,760 Speaker 3: I have Steelers Eagles, which is a great Week fifteen 876 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:09,000 Speaker 3: game opposite Bills and Lions ones on Fox, ones on CBS. 877 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:13,400 Speaker 3: That right there is actually your best three hours of 878 00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,680 Speaker 3: intense football. I think all season to have those two 879 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,080 Speaker 3: games opposite each other. So I'm looking forward to that 880 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,680 Speaker 3: this season, and I love that the Lions held on 881 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:23,520 Speaker 3: to the one seed. Well, they're gonna have to earn 882 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,600 Speaker 3: it if they're gonna hold it all the way to 883 00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:26,920 Speaker 3: the end, because they still have the Bills and the 884 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 3: Vikings on their schedule. 885 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,799 Speaker 4: It's all fun as crap from here, Greg. It just 886 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:35,600 Speaker 4: is it freaking is to quote me quoting Dan Campbell, Okay. 887 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:36,560 Speaker 2: We did it. 888 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:41,960 Speaker 3: You joined me Jordan for the very first Thursday night 889 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,840 Speaker 3: football game of the season kickoff. You know, between the 890 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:47,360 Speaker 3: Ravens and the Chiefs. 891 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,200 Speaker 2: We got fun game. I like that. We only give 892 00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:51,440 Speaker 2: you the. 893 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 4: I only throw heat, Greg, I only throw. 894 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 3: Heat, only the best for Jordan. Let's get out of here, 895 00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 3: Let's get in a sleep. She's got rams practice to 896 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:04,080 Speaker 3: get to in the morning. Awesome game. Only three Thursday 897 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,560 Speaker 3: night football games left, Jordan. 898 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:09,759 Speaker 2: That's crazy, oh man. 899 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,640 Speaker 3: When we've got Jordan's last t NF game of the 900 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 3: year with us, you know, football is back. 901 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:17,920 Speaker 2: We'll be back for the picks on Friday. See you then,