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Speaker 1: they and they signed And for your point about running backs,

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Speaker 1: they signed Matt Brita as well, who is a really

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Speaker 1: good back. Um. He struggled in Miami last year, lost

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Speaker 1: favor with Brian for he was not a fit there.

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Speaker 1: But we'll see if he's a fit here. But he's

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Speaker 1: got the physical tools that are different than Moss and singletary.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, yes, Dave, I think you can rest a

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Speaker 1: little easier than you obviously are about what they did

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Speaker 1: with the running game. But don't for a minute think

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Speaker 1: they're gonna run the ball more than they did last.

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Speaker 1: Just need to be good enough. They run it when

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Speaker 1: they need to. That's all they really need to do

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Speaker 1: here with the juggernaut at the passing game. I said

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Speaker 1: it last, I said it yesterday. Maybe you talk about

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Speaker 1: a running game for a team that has scoring a

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Speaker 1: lot of points, and we always think about late in

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Speaker 1: the game, it'd be great to be able to run

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Speaker 1: the football solve the game way. Yeah, okay, that'd be great,

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Speaker 1: But that you know that's not going to happen for

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Speaker 1: a team that knows it's coming. I don't care who

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Speaker 1: you are. In this day and age of football. All

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Speaker 1: it comes down to then is run, run, and then

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Speaker 1: convert the third down. Run, run, convert the third down.

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Speaker 1: You don't I don't care if they throw it or

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Speaker 1: pass it or whatever. And with Josh and this receiving corps,

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Speaker 1: that's the crux of their four minute offense, just converting

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Speaker 1: that third down, whether they can run the ball effectively

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Speaker 1: or not. On first and second, let's go back to

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Speaker 1: the phones. We're gonna go to Jeff and Buffalo. Jeff,

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Speaker 1: what do you have for us? You're on one Bill's Hey, guys, Hey,

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Speaker 1: put our crystal balls or your opinions or whatever may be.

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Speaker 1: One more, a little tidbit on the draft. Do you

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Speaker 1: think or what's your opinion? If the Bills knew that

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Speaker 1: Boogie Bashan was going to be here at sixty one?

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Speaker 1: Do you think that would have changed the Russo pick

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Speaker 1: at thirty and the everything I just wanted to throw

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Speaker 1: in there is a yes. So he talked a little

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Speaker 1: bit or the day before maybe about tight end position.

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Speaker 1: And with Lee Smith gone and with the crop of

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Speaker 1: tight ends they have. I know that they're a passing

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Speaker 1: team and you're pretty much going to split your tight

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Speaker 1: end out or at least not have them. But don't

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Speaker 1: you feel that there is a need for more of

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Speaker 1: a well rounded, if not even a blocking tight end

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Speaker 1: on this team. Yeah, I mean I get where you're

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Speaker 1: coming from with that, Jeff. I respect that opinion. There's

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Speaker 1: always a place for a blocking tight end on the roster.

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Speaker 1: Who that will be from the current crop. I can

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Speaker 1: understand why you don't see someone feeling that role of

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Speaker 1: the guys that they already had because Lee Smith was

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Speaker 1: the one that did it previously and he's in Atlanta. Now,

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Speaker 1: let's wait and see if they even choose to have

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Speaker 1: somebody serve in that capacity. It might get down to

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Speaker 1: a point where they don't want an inline tight end

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Speaker 1: unless they're in a goal line situation, and in that case,

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Speaker 1: your goal line tight end might be Spencer Brown, right

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Speaker 1: if he's not already starting, or even if he is

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Speaker 1: already starting, I agree. I think they'll fill that role

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Speaker 1: if they feel it's that important. They'll fill it somehow,

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Speaker 1: some way, whether it is bringing in a tight end

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Speaker 1: who is sort of a threat in the passing game.

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Speaker 1: And we saw Lee Smith catch up you know, hand

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Speaker 1: you can remember Lee Smith catching handfuls of passes because

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Speaker 1: you know, you would be a forgotten guy and then

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Speaker 1: he would just pop out. He'd do it in the

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Speaker 1: end zone. He did it in I can't remember the

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Speaker 1: exactly that. Maybe it was the Pittsburgh game on a

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Speaker 1: Monday night where he caught him all down. Signed New

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Speaker 1: England game where it was New England. Yea Feliciano tackled

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Speaker 1: him and that's right, Um, there's a ton of instances

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Speaker 1: where you know, Lee Smith did catch some passes, none

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Speaker 1: of them were catches that would have been hard for

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Speaker 1: even an offensive lineman to make. And let's not forget this,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not trying to build up Spencer Brown too

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Speaker 1: much here, but he was a tight end in high

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Speaker 1: school and eight man football, so it would not be

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Speaker 1: something completely foreign to him, right, And they've got other

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Speaker 1: athletes on the on the squad to absolute that as well.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's there's plenty of that. But yeah, if

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Speaker 1: if they get into a point where they need a

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Speaker 1: blocking tight end, they can throw a six stight rookie

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Speaker 1: offensive tackle out there and let him do it. M people.

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Speaker 1: But if you want, if you want more flexibility than that,

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Speaker 1: if you want to tight end who can split out

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Speaker 1: and go one on one with a with a safety

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Speaker 1: and then also come down in line and be effective

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Speaker 1: in that, good luck finding that guy. Back to the

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Speaker 1: phones are hard to find. Yeah, back to the phones

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Speaker 1: and to Bobby and Lancaster. Bobby, what you got ye

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Speaker 1: on Bill's Lives? Hey, boys, how are you doing on

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Speaker 1: this rainy Friday afternoon? What I got for you is this,

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Speaker 1: I just want to go back to those I think

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Speaker 1: two collars ago this guy with a shady comment. I'm

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Speaker 1: not here to insult anybody, but are you kidding me?

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Speaker 1: With this running game? Already? My head's going to explode

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Speaker 1: with this running game deal? We would rather have the

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Speaker 1: best running game in the league with Shady McCoy and

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Speaker 1: go eight and eight, or have Josh Allen when thirteen

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Speaker 1: games are fifteen with the playoffs and go to the

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Speaker 1: championship game. I mean, where are we going here with

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Speaker 1: this running game? Our bread and butter is with Josh Allen.

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Speaker 1: And if you don't know, it's you don't know football.

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Speaker 1: Now your reason why I respect the opinion about the

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Speaker 1: running game because I know you gotta, like you said,

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Speaker 1: the finish off ball games. I agree with that. However,

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Speaker 1: the reason why I know this side of the argument

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Speaker 1: is right is because think about this. If you're on

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Speaker 1: the other side of the ball and playing defense, would

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Speaker 1: you rather have Josh Allen handed ball off an other

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Speaker 1: fifteen times of game? Or would you rather have Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen pass against you? Yeah? I mean you, you're looking

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Speaker 1: at right the same way you're looking at Pats as

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Speaker 1: the Holmes. I'd rather have him hand that ball off

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Speaker 1: and then get four or five yards, then him go

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Speaker 1: back and pass, because my stomach is a knots when

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Speaker 1: that guy goes back to throw the ball. Yes, it

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Speaker 1: was the same thing. It was the same thing with

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Speaker 1: Brady all those years, Bobby, I mean it was the

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Speaker 1: same thing with Brady. I mean he felt a whole

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Speaker 1: lot better when he was handing it off, you know,

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Speaker 1: to Corey Dillon or whoever else throughout all the years

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Speaker 1: that could that's a terrific comparison, is the Brady one.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you don't think teams are afraid of Josh Allen,

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Speaker 1: You're crazy. They'd be happy with us to hand the

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Speaker 1: ball off with three yards and a cloud of dust

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Speaker 1: than thirty three yards completion with a cloud of glory.

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Speaker 1: So think about that. The running guy whoever he was

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Speaker 1: all right, thank you boy. Yeah, Bobby, you're right. I

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Speaker 1: mean it's a throwing league. And now, for the first

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Speaker 1: time in a couple of decades, the Bills have got

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Speaker 1: a guy that can keep up with anybody throwing the football.

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Speaker 1: And when we talk about when people talk about the

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Speaker 1: running game, and even Brandon Beans said it, and it

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Speaker 1: was most notably said exactly the way he said it.

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Speaker 1: He said, we don't want to run the ball more,

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Speaker 1: we want to run it better. And you're I mean,

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Speaker 1: you're just it's not even a run game at this

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Speaker 1: point for the Buffalo Bills. Isn't even a new code

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Speaker 1: of paint. It's like it's like wiping a smudge off

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Speaker 1: to make your car look that much better. This offense

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Speaker 1: is humming. It was humming big time. It was like

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Speaker 1: it was crushing teams. I'll go back to it, we

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Speaker 1: said it. You go back to the week seventeen. This

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Speaker 1: is how good that offense was playing. They had the

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Speaker 1: number one scoring defense in the league at home and

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Speaker 1: they crushed them, crushed them. They crushed the Miami Dolphins.

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Speaker 1: They scored fifty six points and three or three touchdowns

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Speaker 1: at the end of the game were with the backups.

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Speaker 1: They crushed them. That's how good this offense is. So

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Speaker 1: you can talk about how you want how it's the

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Speaker 1: running game that No, the running game is fine. It

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Speaker 1: could run. Yeah, they could be more efficient, no worries,

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Speaker 1: no question about it. But man, oh man, who cares.

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Speaker 1: I want Josh to drop back. I want Emmanuel Sanders

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Speaker 1: on our team. Digs Beasley and Gabe Davis and hopefully

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Speaker 1: a Dawson Knox who's taking a big step forward healthy

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Speaker 1: and without COVID and uninjured. So if that happens, I

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Speaker 1: don't care if they run the ball three times a game.

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Speaker 1: They are unstoppable in the passing game, unstoppable last year,

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Speaker 1: number two in scoring, first in the league, and third

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Speaker 1: down conversion rate they were. They were crushing it last year,

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Speaker 1: So I get it. I mean there's always something you

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Speaker 1: look as said, well, I wish they'd do this better. That. No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: they are all that is just that's just not even

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Speaker 1: a cherry on the cake. I mean it's I mean

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Speaker 1: it's like a little piece of glitter. I mean, that's nothing.

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Speaker 1: This offense was absolutely killing it last year. So if

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Speaker 1: you want to get better, look someplace other than on

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Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball. I mean, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I know, we talked about how much they've bolsted the

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Speaker 1: offensive line and all that, and that's all well and good,

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Speaker 1: and it looks good going forward and they got some competition.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna be better up front than they were a

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Speaker 1: year ago. I am confident of that, which is gonna

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Speaker 1: help the running game and all that. But if you

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Speaker 1: want to get better. Do what the Bills did, get

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Speaker 1: their pass rush spiffed up, bringing some competition, and look

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Speaker 1: for the guys to step forward at the other cornerback.

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Speaker 1: But man, oh man, you won thirteen games last year

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Speaker 1: with this offense, and mostly with this offense, right, so

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Speaker 1: you know, if you want to get better as a team,

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Speaker 1: I ain't got to look someplace else right away. Probably

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Speaker 1: we have to take a break. But Matt and Andrew

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Speaker 1: hang tight. We'll get to you when we return, along

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Speaker 1: with Tasker's teammate to follow. Here on One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 1: presented by Kalid to Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio looking

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Speaker 1: back to One Bills. I've time to go right back

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Speaker 1: to the phones. As it is an obl fan Friday

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Speaker 1: mail bag. Any question on your mind is open in

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Speaker 1: this forum today as it is every Friday. So we

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Speaker 1: go to Matt in Clifton Park. Matt, what do you

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Speaker 1: have for us? You're on One Bill's Live. I'd like

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Speaker 1: to ask about what your opinions are on Christian Wade.

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Speaker 1: He was a beast in the twenty nineteen preseason. No

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Speaker 1: one could tackle him an open field. Do you think

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Speaker 1: he would get playing time over someone like Great up

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Speaker 1: or Moss. I'll hang up and listen. Go Bill, you bet,

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Speaker 1: thanks for the call, Matt. Steve and I have talked

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Speaker 1: about this a lot, probably over the last couple of years,

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Speaker 1: and I think the biggest issue with Christian Wade is

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Speaker 1: how young he is in football and so the challenge.

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Speaker 1: See like everybody saw him run for a giant long

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Speaker 1: touchdown in the twenty nineteen preseason, almost went for two touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: but another long run got caught from behind, mind and

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Speaker 1: didn't get in the end zone on the second one.

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Speaker 1: That part of the game comes very naturally to him

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Speaker 1: because it's it's very relatable to the angles that he

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Speaker 1: experiences in rugby, which Steve can speak to rugby in

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Speaker 1: the better than I can, because he played rugby in

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Speaker 1: college in addition to football. The areas of his game

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Speaker 1: where you have concern is in the past protection elements

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Speaker 1: of the game, the reads that he has to make

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Speaker 1: as a protector for the quarterback, things of that nature. Instincts.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes there are parts of that game which don't translate

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Speaker 1: at the sideline right now on this run. He stead

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Speaker 1: of cutting it back inside and get caught. You go

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Speaker 1: back to his highlights and the Carolina preseason game from

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Speaker 1: two years ago when he when he caught that swing pass,

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Speaker 1: made a phenomenal move, made three guys miss, and then

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Speaker 1: when he got down the side, he didn't know how

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Speaker 1: to run with interference in front of him because that's

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Speaker 1: not what you do in rugby. He didn't know how

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Speaker 1: to use his own blockers, so it cost himself and

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Speaker 1: the team a touchdown because he didn't understand his instincts

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Speaker 1: weren't to use his teammates to his benefit, and he

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Speaker 1: ran right into the tackle. And that's that's the kind

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Speaker 1: of example you're looking at where instincts come into play

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Speaker 1: and hurt you for not having them, for not playing

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Speaker 1: as a kid and understanding it. So that that is

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Speaker 1: the main issue with Christian Wade. Does he have the

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Speaker 1: speed and physical skill to play at this level. Probably,

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Speaker 1: but the question is does he have the instincts and

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Speaker 1: the football IQ where you can trust putting him out

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Speaker 1: on the field on a third down or in an

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Speaker 1: obvious passing situation that he's going to read the defense

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Speaker 1: correctly while he's running a circle route or a wheel

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Speaker 1: route and knows how to adjust that route based on

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Speaker 1: the coverage and the snap of a finger where he's

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Speaker 1: not going to get crossed up with his quarterback and

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Speaker 1: it leads to an interception. These are the details of

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Speaker 1: the game that come very naturally to Zach Moss or

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Speaker 1: Devin Singletary or even Antonio Williams because they've been playing

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Speaker 1: this game since they're five years old at every level

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Speaker 1: of football. Christian Wade's trying to do it at the

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Speaker 1: highest level of football. He's not just being introduced to

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Speaker 1: football at a lower college level or a high school level.

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Speaker 1: He's trying to play it at its highest level. That's

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Speaker 1: a challenge even for somebody as dedicated as Christian Wade.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we're all rooting for him, but that's what

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Speaker 1: he's working against. Yeah, and he's work and he's competing

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Speaker 1: against players who have all of that stuff. In fact,

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Speaker 1: that's what they really have. And I've said, I said it,

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Speaker 1: you know while you were speaking there, that yeah, he's

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Speaker 1: got all the physical capabilities he needs to play. But

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Speaker 1: when something happens where you have to freethink and improvise

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Speaker 1: or react, like for instance, he I don't know if

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Speaker 1: he knows anything about how to feel or how it

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Speaker 1: feels to cover a kick or a punt or do

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Speaker 1: anything else on special teams. So his value to the

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Speaker 1: team is limited by that as well. And that's that's

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Speaker 1: a whole other way to play football out in space,

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Speaker 1: doing all that stuff and m and certainly all of

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Speaker 1: this on some level translates to the skill sets he's

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Speaker 1: displayed in rugby, but the instincts are completely different because

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Speaker 1: the rules are different it and I don't want to

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Speaker 1: I don't want to say it's hopeless in the in

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Speaker 1: the least because now he's been here, this will be

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Speaker 1: his third preseason that he's been here, and it's he's

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Speaker 1: come a long long way. But he was tremendously hurt

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Speaker 1: by their not being any preseason last summer's probably those

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Speaker 1: are three or four games he could have got valuable

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Speaker 1: game like game speed reps, and he didn't get them

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Speaker 1: to prove what he could do or how much he

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Speaker 1: had improved. And so the coaching staff is left with

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Speaker 1: I don't know if we can trust him, Like we'll

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Speaker 1: put him on the practice squad and see where it

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Speaker 1: goes from there. But you know what I mean, like

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Speaker 1: without that evidence and he's exempt. But yeah, you're right,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's just it's just unfortunately they didn't get

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Speaker 1: that chance because without that evidence, how can a coaching

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Speaker 1: staff definitively And he gets no aside from the exemptions

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Speaker 1: on the roster for international pathway players, he gets no

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Speaker 1: special treatment. So he's got to compete. He's gotta beat

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Speaker 1: somebody out. Yeah, it's a competition, and he's up against

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Speaker 1: some really experienced football players, even in the rookie classes

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Speaker 1: that have come in. Right, Andrew and Stafford is next. Andrew,

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Speaker 1: what do you have for us? You're on one Bill's life. Yeah, Hey,

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Speaker 1: Steve Chris, I just wanted to get your thoughts up.

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Speaker 1: Hold on, Andrew, you're breaking up. Oh I can hear

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Speaker 1: you now, So just start right, start over if you could. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to get your thoughts on position flexibility

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Speaker 1: versus development. I feel like Ford and dates than kryptonite

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Speaker 1: to that, whereas, like I hear, Jackie Anderson can play

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Speaker 1: garden center and Boogie Basham can play end and tackle,

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Speaker 1: and I don't want them to fall victim to that

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Speaker 1: develop loss of development. Just want to steer your thoughts

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Speaker 1: on that. Yeah, I think it's less of a concern

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Speaker 1: at defensive line and the only reason I say that

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Speaker 1: is because we heard Brandon being after the draft even

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Speaker 1: say that Greg Rousseau and Boogie Basham are left defensive

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Speaker 1: ends first, and I think they will school them up

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Speaker 1: there primarily. The only time they're really going to kick inside,

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Speaker 1: I think is during obvious pass rush situations, obvious passing

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Speaker 1: down its third and eleven third and fifteen second and twelve,

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Speaker 1: those kinds of situations. That's when you're going to see

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Speaker 1: them on the field reduced down inside. Andrew, that's a

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Speaker 1: really great question because it is a tough balance to strike.

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Speaker 1: You got this kid that can play three different positions,

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Speaker 1: like Ryan Bay we've seen, we've heard he's played five positions.

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Speaker 1: That's great when you're gonna give him a chance to

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Speaker 1: be really good at one of them, Yeah, give him

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Speaker 1: a home, give him a home, and let the guy develop,

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Speaker 1: because in so doing, moving him around all the time,

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Speaker 1: he'll never get as good as he could be at

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Speaker 1: any one of them, as he would as him dedicated

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Speaker 1: his all his time. Too. And that's a great question

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Speaker 1: by Andrew's a great It's a great aspect of coaching

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Speaker 1: that I'm not really familiar with myself, you know, because

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Speaker 1: I don't know how it is to coach those guys.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the balance they want to strike is.

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Speaker 1: You gotta you know, we've You've said it time and

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Speaker 1: time again. This coaching staff is really good at developing guys,

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Speaker 1: and I'll leave it to them to figure it out

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Speaker 1: how they do that. But we said the same thing

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Speaker 1: about Cody Ford. He was vacillating between right guard right

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Speaker 1: tackle for the first year and a half of his career.

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Speaker 1: Finally he's down inside. Daryl Williams comes in, he's gonna

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Speaker 1: play guard. Okay, now it's left guard and he's gonna

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Speaker 1: stay there, and then he loses half the season. But

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Speaker 1: I think it's a real tough question to answer, and

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Speaker 1: I don't really know the answer to it. I don't

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Speaker 1: know how the coaches decide which player is going to

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Speaker 1: be like, yeah, okay, you know what. I know, you've

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Speaker 1: been playing right tackle, right guard, and center. We've been

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Speaker 1: sprinkling around. We want you to focus on whatever. I

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Speaker 1: don't know that. I don't know when that time comes

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Speaker 1: for coaches and when they give the guy. And I

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Speaker 1: don't know whether it hurts or helps a guy. Because

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Speaker 1: McDermot say, well, I know he can play all these

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Speaker 1: positions on I want him around. But if you put

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Speaker 1: him right, say, right guard, you think he's not good enough,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So, And just to indicate

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Speaker 1: why that's a valuable thing to do, if you can

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Speaker 1: give a player a home, look no further than Jason Peters.

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Speaker 1: When he was at Arkansas and College. They played him

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Speaker 1: on offensive line, they played him on defensive line, and

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Speaker 1: then they played him at tight end. He played a

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Speaker 1: host of different positions. And I still remember interviewing him

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Speaker 1: as a rookie here and he said, I just could

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Speaker 1: never find a home in college. And he goes undrafted

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Speaker 1: because he never had a chance to hone his skills.

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Speaker 1: The Bills after having him for a couple of months,

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Speaker 1: they say, you're playing offensive tackle, that's your spot. Twenty

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Speaker 1: years later, the guy's still playing. Yeah, he's a Hall

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Speaker 1: of famerum, so he was. That's what could happen potentially,

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Speaker 1: That's right. He got draft, he got undrafted and signed

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Speaker 1: really because of his traits. Yeah, he ran a four

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Speaker 1: eighty pounds, he's six four three twenty you know, without breakfast.

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Speaker 1: I mean the guy could move and he was very quick,

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Speaker 1: very explosive. Athlete at weigh over three hundred pounds. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean they they signed him because of his traits. Uh,

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Speaker 1: break time here, Tom and West Seneca. Hang tight. We'll

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Speaker 1: get to you when we return. Here on One Bills Live,

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Speaker 1: just click to donate. I was getting hit up hard

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Speaker 1: by the American Red Cross on my email the last

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks, and I donated just last week, and

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Speaker 1: you know, God forbid one of your family members if

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Speaker 1: to the phones, Tom and West Seneca has been waiting

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Speaker 1: patient LYE Tom, what do you have for us? You're

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Speaker 1: on one Bill's Live. Chris Steve, thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for having me. I appreciate it. I'm going to start

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Speaker 1: off with a little bit of plagiarism because I think

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Speaker 1: it's I really think it's applicable in the NFL draft

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Speaker 1: and free agency. It's like a box of chocolates. You

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Speaker 1: never really know for sure what you're going to get.

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Speaker 1: We were ultrafortunate signed Josh Allen because, to be quite frank,

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Speaker 1: I think he's a great quarterback now and I've see

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Speaker 1: nothing but greatness in his future, and that equates to

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Speaker 1: a greatness for our Buffalo Bills. We're right at the

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Speaker 1: doorstep of a super Bowl appearance. And adding to that

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Speaker 1: about free agency, sometimes you're getting a player with a

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Speaker 1: good NFL resume, but he may be in the twilight

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Speaker 1: of his career and sometimes father time he has a

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Speaker 1: way of sneaking up on you and maybe end of

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Speaker 1: your career a little sooner than you anticipated. But that's

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Speaker 1: pretty much it. Thank you for having me and Gold Bills,

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Speaker 1: And like I said, we are at the doorstep of

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Speaker 1: the super Bowl appearance. Thank you, gentlemen. I have a

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Speaker 1: great weekend, all right. Thanks? Pretty positive about what's coming.

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Speaker 1: Is optimistic even on this rainy Friday on him? Man,

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Speaker 1: M Yeah, And he's got every right to be. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I still remember when we had who wasn't now it

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Speaker 1: and he said, I don't believe he has a ceiling, right,

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Speaker 1: You remember I looked over at you're going, did you

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Speaker 1: just hear that? Yeah? I think it was. It was

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Speaker 1: someone who had played pro football. Um, it wasn't Chris Simms,

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Speaker 1: but it was somebody like that, somebody who had right,

853
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 1: you know, we had guests on every day and they

854
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 1: all blend together. Now, he'd be hard pressed to find

855
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 1: somebody who's not, you know, on touting. Josh. Yeah, certainly.

856
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: Now there's there's two that they're getting hard to find.

857
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 1: But there's people who are thinking, I think, maybe not

858
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: saying it, but making statements about the league and what's

859
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: going on that they think maybe Buffalo was an aberration

860
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 1: last year, the thirteen wins was kind of a fluke. Um,

861
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 1: there's a little bit of that out there. I don't

862
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 1: I haven't never seen anybody think that outright or say it.

863
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: But okay, you know it's fine. But I'll tell you what,

864
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 1: last year they were really, really good, and there's no

865
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 1: reason to think they're not going to be at least

866
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 1: that good this year. The Fan Friday mail Bag on

867
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 1: the Tweet Sheet brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems,

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Speaker 1: the official equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills and

869
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 1: Jose leads us off today and says, with an overcrowded

870
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 1: defensive endcoreps. If the two new rookies impress in preseason,

871
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 1: who is more likely to be released before the beginning

872
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 1: of the season. Could it be a cap related decision

873
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 1: or would it have to be strictly performance related. I'd

874
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 1: say it's probably both. They weigh everything. These guys don't

875
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 1: make knee jerk decisions. They're very thorough calculated, methodical. They

876
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: weigh every ounce of the decision out before making it.

877
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: And it'll have to do with what they're going to

878
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: ask from each of those guys and what they expect

879
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 1: that you know, how they expect the season to go,

880
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: what they're going to need during the regular season, what

881
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 1: those guys bring to the table in the meeting rooms

882
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 1: and in film, and what they you know, the veteran

883
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 1: guys bring a different set of parameters to what they

884
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 1: can offer than you know, the young guys. But first

885
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 1: and foremost its performance. They're not gonna cut a really

886
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 1: good player just because another guy's a better dude in

887
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: the meeting room. If you can play, you're gonna stay.

888
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 1: Unless they did with Trent Murphy last year. That's right,

889
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 1: unless unless, unless you can't keep up. You know you

890
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 1: got a chance to make the team, so I it

891
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: And you know some of these cuts are gonna be hard,

892
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 1: There's no question about it. They're gonna have some hard

893
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: decisions to make. They're gonna weigh everything that one of

894
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: the veteran guys brings to the table and against what

895
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 1: they're looking at in these young players. Or between the

896
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 1: two young players, which one's given him the most, which

897
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 1: one has the biggest upside, Which one looks like he's

898
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: gonna reach the better point faster? M Could it be

899
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 1: that one of the young players is gonna be better quicker,

900
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 1: but the other guy is gonna be better longer. You know,

901
00:49:56,160 --> 00:50:00,080
Speaker 1: what do you do with that decision? It's tough, but

902
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: it's all gonna come down to which guy's going to

903
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,879
Speaker 1: give him the best chance to win more in on

904
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: every Sunday, every game this season. That's what this is

905
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 1: gonna boil down to. Now. They'll do what they can

906
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 1: to keep, you know, to hang on to all of

907
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 1: these guys if they can, but it's gonna be who

908
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: can help us win this year today? And that's what

909
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:26,399
Speaker 1: those decisions really ultimately will be based on and yeah,

910
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: there's no question. It's a good question, and it's a

911
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 1: good you know, you kind of get it at the

912
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 1: crux of white. It's so difficult to cut these guys

913
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 1: and who and which ones to cut, but they're gonna

914
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 1: have to do it somewhere. Yeah, break time for us.

915
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:45,919
Speaker 1: When we return, Bill's long snapper Read Ferguson, we'll join

916
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: the show as we'll talk to him about his new

917
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: podcast with his brother, who is the long snapper for

918
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:55,359
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins. We'll talk to him about that, how

919
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 1: he sees the AFC East, stacking up his Twitter opinion

920
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 1: today about receiving cores in the NFL, and maybe even

921
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: Steve a little soccer talk as he is a huge

922
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 1: fan of Chelsea who talked about him about all of that.

923
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: When we return here on one Bill's Live presented by

924
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 1: Kalida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. At a Steve Tasker

925
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,280
Speaker 1: who has been all over the fields. Kind of unique.

926
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: He was kind of a dual role players for Steve,

927
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 1: Steve a blimp. We're not even in the strated fere

928
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 1: of normalcy. Our number two on a Friday and set

929
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 1: to join us now is the Bill's long snapper. You

930
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: want to know about people that do a lot of

931
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 1: stuff in the offseason. You always wonder how full is

932
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 1: it to do list for an NFL player. This guy's

933
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 1: got a long list. He's starting a podcast with his

934
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:12,320
Speaker 1: brother who also plays in the NFL. He's a new dad,

935
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 1: so that alone is enough. But this is a This

936
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 1: is an instance of where we are in this pandemic.

937
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 1: I asked him, Hey, are you down in Georgia, which

938
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 1: which I believe is where he still spends his offseasons.

939
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:26,399
Speaker 1: He's like, no, I'm here in Orchard Park. I'm working

940
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 1: out at the facility. We don't see anybody. We can't

941
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:32,439
Speaker 1: see anybody here at one Bill's Drive. So he's he's

942
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 1: on the other side of the wall, like five days

943
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 1: a week. We can't and we don't even know it.

944
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 1: We can't even go out and touch elbows with ye.

945
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 1: Hey man, good to see. But it's long snapper. Read

946
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:44,919
Speaker 1: ferguson joining us. First of all, congratulations Read on fatherhood.

947
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: It's a wonderful time as you're probably experiencing each and

948
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 1: every day, So congrats on that and the new baby

949
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 1: girl to you and your wife. That's great and um,

950
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 1: you know the new podcast is underway, so you're keeping

951
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:04,359
Speaker 1: busy man. Yeah, thanks for having me on and thanks

952
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 1: for the congratulations there. It's been definitely been a whirlwind

953
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,439
Speaker 1: a little bit for almost coming up on a month

954
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: now since a little baby Blakely was born about a

955
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 1: week week and a half early. So it's been, uh,

956
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:24,320
Speaker 1: it's been good. It's been a great learning experience. Um

957
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 1: but uh, yeah, we're Mom's mom. Mom was crushing it

958
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 1: and h it's it's it's going well. But but yeah,

959
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 1: and then Blake and Blake and I started a podcast.

960
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:38,879
Speaker 1: We just put out our second episode yesterday. We're gonna

961
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 1: be doing it weekly for now. So it's called After

962
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:45,959
Speaker 1: the Snap Tales from two brothers who live life upside Down.

963
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 1: We're gonna be covering uh, pretty wide range of topics,

964
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff that has to do with our

965
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 1: personal lives in and out of the locker room. We

966
00:53:56,320 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 1: had this week, we had two gets song. It was

967
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 1: both of the snappers that were taken that were drafted

968
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 1: over last weekend, which ddly enough was a was a

969
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 1: record setting performance by them. But yeah, it was. It's

970
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:16,919
Speaker 1: it's been it's been fun. It's been fun hopefully at

971
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 1: hopefully at Blossoms and uh, now something big. My first

972
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: question is is your daughter's name and homage to your brother?

973
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 1: And that's question one and then question two. Speaking of names,

974
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 1: I believe one of those long snappers that was drafted

975
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:33,359
Speaker 1: is they got to put him on the all name

976
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 1: team somewhere. Isn't his name Cameron Cheeseman? That yeah, that's correct? Um, yeah,

977
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:42,840
Speaker 1: Cameron Cheeseman. I think he was. He was drafted to Washington.

978
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: But yes, going back to your first question, my wife's

979
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:53,280
Speaker 1: original due date was a day after my brother's birthday,

980
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 1: so we wanted to keep the family name in the running,

981
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 1: so we went Blake to Blakelee. She was born, Like

982
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 1: I said, she was born a little a little early,

983
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 1: but we still wanted to keep keep the family name cool.

984
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:12,319
Speaker 1: He must have been touched, I mean, right, did he

985
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 1: know that? Did he know that was coming up? Or

986
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 1: was that a surprise to him? I was a little

987
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 1: We kept it a surprise until pretty late. Um, but

988
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:22,360
Speaker 1: we asked him to, you know, if he'd be the

989
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 1: godfather tour and everything, so we kind of told him

990
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 1: all at once, but he was. He was thrilled to

991
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 1: say the least, that's awesome. What's the dynamic like between

992
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 1: I mean, it's one thing to have a brother who

993
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 1: plays in the league, It's it's a little bit different

994
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 1: to have a brother who plays in the division with

995
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 1: you know, a historic rival of the team you're playing for.

996
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 1: You see him twice a year. It's gotta be you know,

997
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 1: you gotta circle those games right away. And I know

998
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 1: you guys are you know, obviously very close. But come on,

999
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 1: there's gotta be a little bit of smack talk around

1000
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 1: the Thanksgiving table, right, I mean, of course there is.

1001
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 1: And I'm and and after last season, I'm I'm two

1002
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 1: and oh in the Ferguson Bowl as far as I'm concerned. So,

1003
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 1: do you have a Ferguson? Here's plenty of it, he

1004
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 1: Here's plenty of it from me. Yeah, do you have

1005
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 1: a Ferguson Bowl? Is there like a physical piece of

1006
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 1: hardware like the old brown jug or the the axe game?

1007
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna have to I'm gonna have to get

1008
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 1: get like a belt made or something, yeah, to every game. Yeah,

1009
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 1: gotta do something. You gotta have something engraved every year,

1010
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:30,919
Speaker 1: like the winner of the game and everything. I gotta

1011
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: tell you, though, read the people I'm happiest for are

1012
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 1: your poor parents who travel to game after game after

1013
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 1: game over the years and split between and when Blake

1014
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,320
Speaker 1: was still in college, right, they split their time Saturdays

1015
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:48,280
Speaker 1: and Sundays between you and him going all those games.

1016
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 1: You couldn't ask for a better arrangement having two sons

1017
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 1: who play in a division, because that makes for two

1018
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 1: very easy Sundays every year. Absolutely, and they and when

1019
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 1: the schedule came out last year, you know, it was

1020
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 1: it was it was before obviously we didn't know that

1021
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 1: fans would be able to go to a lot of

1022
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 1: the games. My dad we kind of sat down with

1023
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 1: my dad because he's the one who plans all the

1024
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 1: flights and stuff, and said, you know, all right, so

1025
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 1: here's you know, here's both schedules. I matched them up.

1026
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 1: And because we had so many primetime games last year,

1027
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 1: it was that made it a step easier. So he had,

1028
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 1: you know, like you said, that's two Sundays that they

1029
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 1: don't have to worry about because they we're both playing

1030
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 1: each other. And then the primetime games they could get,

1031
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 1: you know, if it's a Thursday or a Sunday night

1032
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 1: or a Monday night or whatever, they could get to

1033
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 1: our game and then get also to wherever he was

1034
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 1: playing that same week. So I think there was maybe

1035
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 1: like four or five complications that they maybe would have

1036
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 1: had to split up, but it ended up being a

1037
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 1: little bit of a non issue because they couldn't travel

1038
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 1: up here to any games. But I think they made

1039
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 1: most of the most of his games down in Miami

1040
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 1: because they had like, I don't know, twenty percent or whatever,

1041
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 1: but they had fans. But yeah, I mean, like you said,

1042
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 1: his whole college career, they went down to Baton Rouge

1043
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 1: every Saturday, and then you know, flew to wherever we

1044
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 1: were playing on Sunday. So they did they're grinding. Let

1045
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 1: me ask you this, did Blake come to your playoff games? He? Yes, yes,

1046
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 1: that had to be that would be especially delicious. Yeah,

1047
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 1: he came to the first one, not the second one. O. Yeah,

1048
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 1: that's awesome. Uh. With respect to the podcast, read should

1049
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 1: we anticipate any discussion at all on soccer because we

1050
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 1: you know, I know you're a huge Chelsea fan and

1051
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 1: back when I was still allowed to jump in the

1052
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:49,439
Speaker 1: locker room, we would go back and forth all the time.

1053
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 1: They're obviously in the Champions League Final, which is very exciting.

1054
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 1: I will be rooting for them because I hate Manchester City. Um,

1055
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 1: what do you think their chances are? Number one? And

1056
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 1: then number two? Will there ever be any uh pro

1057
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 1: soccer talk on your podcast? And is Blake a follower

1058
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 1: of any team? Yeah, Blake is a Chelsea fan himself.

1059
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 1: And we also both follow Atlanta's MLS team as well,

1060
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 1: just because that's the home the hometown hometown team. But yeah,

1061
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Speaker 1: we we um we talk, you know, just because it's

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00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 1: baseball season. We covered a couple of baseball things on

1063
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 1: this week's episode. But uh, there will definitely be some

1064
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 1: some soccer chatter on the podcast. And and I feel

1065
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 1: pretty good about I mean about Chelsea's chances in the final.

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00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 1: I think it's at the end of the month here

1067
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 1: in a couple of weeks. But I mean they beat City,

1068
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 1: uh maybe two weeks ago. Uh, and then they play

1069
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 1: them I think this weekend and then um. But but

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00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 1: I mean you look at who they who they've beaten

1071
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 1: on the way to the to get to the final.

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00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 1: I mean they they beat Porto, who's no slouch over

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00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 1: two legs. They beat Athletico Madrid, who's top of the

1074
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Speaker 1: Spanish League and then Real Madrid over two legs. Yeah,

1075
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:08,959
Speaker 1: who's second in the Spanish League. And obviously I think

1076
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 1: if not for Manchester United, I think Real and Barsa

1077
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 1: are top three richest clubs in the world. So if

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01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 1: you're talking about, uh, you know, a resume, that's that's

1079
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 1: a pretty strong resume, right And the only time that

1080
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:25,560
Speaker 1: man City beat Chelsea this year in league play was

1081
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 1: before you guys got your new coach, Thomas two Goole.

1082
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, that should that should be very very interesting.

1083
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 1: I don't want to Steve's eyes are glazing over, so

1084
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 1: we should probably get back to football here. Start speaking,

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01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 1: starts switch back to English for a minute. I was

1086
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 1: gonna ask you this, and it came across our feedback

1087
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 1: from on social media. People are asking, do you remember

1088
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 1: are there specific snaps in your career? Can you had

1089
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 1: like a couple of hundred snaps over the course of

1090
01:00:57,080 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 1: your career field goals and punts? Is there do you remember?

1091
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 1: Are the bad ones or do you just or they

1092
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 1: all kind of blend together? I think at this point, um,

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01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 1: I would say most of them just kind of blend together.

1094
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 1: But there's definitely a couple that that stand out. Um.

1095
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 1: You know, you know the Titans game winner at home

1096
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. Uh, you know that this

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01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 1: this past season, Um, the punt and the punt that

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01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 1: made Bojo because that made Bojo um eligible for league

1099
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,440
Speaker 1: leading statistics because it really went all the way to

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01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 1: the last game, So we were kind of keeping track

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01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 1: on that to make sure he could get over the

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01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 1: average punts per game so he could qualify. Uh. And

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01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 1: then the snap um for Tyler I think it was

1104
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 1: pat where he broke the points record. Um. Yeah, I

1105
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 1: mean there's a there's a handful that stick out, and

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01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 1: then there's a handful obviously that I wish I could

1107
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:58,480
Speaker 1: have back and looking back on him, but thankfully those

1108
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:02,919
Speaker 1: those bad snaps didn't uh didn't you know, cause any

1109
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 1: trouble or anything like that. But um, yeah, that that

1110
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 1: one they're showing on the screen right now definitely sticks

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01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 1: out as well, because I think I was going berserk

1112
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 1: after I saw where the ref spot of that ball. Yeah,

1113
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 1: that coffin corner. It was the best coffin corner I

1114
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 1: have ever witnessed. We were calling that game and you

1115
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 1: can see it even from where I was. The ball,

1116
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 1: you know, popped right outside the pylon left to mark.

1117
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 1: It was just it was absolutely a perfect punt that

1118
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 1: you know, the only way it could have been more

1119
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:36,480
Speaker 1: perfect as if it was longer. But he hit that

1120
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 1: thing absolutely dead on, and you just kind of what

1121
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 1: do you even the returner, what are you gonna do?

1122
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:45,480
Speaker 1: You just gotta shrug your shoe. You can't catch it,

1123
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 1: you know, and you just try to on On punts

1124
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 1: like that, I try to get downfield as fast as

1125
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 1: I can, and if I know it's going out to

1126
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 1: the sideline, I usually try to get in the ref's

1127
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 1: ear a little bit and point with my toe or

1128
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 1: my finger, like hey let's get you know, give us

1129
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 1: an extra yard here. But literally, on that play, you

1130
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 1: couldn't have penned them down any any better. Yeah, I'm

1131
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 1: totally with you. Sometime I used to get so heated

1132
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 1: when you chase this kick down and they it's like

1133
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:16,720
Speaker 1: they don't even care if they're spot's accurate. They're just

1134
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 1: trying to get the play, stop, get the ball, and

1135
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 1: you know, let's go get the game going. And they

1136
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 1: could be I saw one, they could be off by

1137
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 1: three yards, and to them, it's just, you know, who

1138
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 1: cares this drive's gonna start inside the twenty five, and

1139
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:33,439
Speaker 1: for us, it was like, get it right. Hey, I'm

1140
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 1: just I'm just going to reiterate this because I've said

1141
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 1: this on the show. Read for spotting first downs and

1142
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 1: for where punks go out of bounds. I mean, I

1143
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 1: think we've got the technology these days to have some

1144
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 1: kind of an electronic eye on a track to run

1145
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 1: up and down the sideline. I mean, we've had them

1146
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 1: for garage door openers for what twenty five years. We

1147
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 1: can't put it on a sideline. And the fourteen billion

1148
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 1: dollar business that's the NFL. It's got a point, that's

1149
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 1: great point they couldn't put. They can't. We can't put

1150
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 1: imaginary yellow line on the field yet. I mean, first, yeah,

1151
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 1: we can do all of that. We can. We can superimpose,

1152
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:11,120
Speaker 1: just send a beam across. You can put a chip

1153
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:13,520
Speaker 1: in the ball, say and send it so we can

1154
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 1: see it. Yeah, you can see. They can superimpose second

1155
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 1: and three across the field underneath the players so you

1156
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 1: can read it while you're watching the play. But they

1157
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 1: can't spot the ball. Yeah. It used to drive me

1158
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 1: absolutely crazy. Uh. Read, there is an interesting dynamic here

1159
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 1: for you this season in that you know your new punter,

1160
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 1: Matt Hawk is a guy who your brother is very

1161
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 1: familiar with. So how much have you tapped into Blake's

1162
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 1: knowledge of what Matt likes before You've probably even really

1163
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 1: snapped to him yet. Yeah. Um, right when we signed Matt,

1164
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:53,520
Speaker 1: I obviously reached out to my brother and we um

1165
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 1: chatted a little bit about about Matt and Blake's experience

1166
01:04:56,960 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 1: with him. But he raved about him. He had a

1167
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 1: ton of great things to say about Matt. And from

1168
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:05,959
Speaker 1: the first time I chat, I was able to get

1169
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 1: on the phone with him, I kind of got the

1170
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 1: same vibe. So so we're we're super excited about getting him, uh,

1171
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 1: you know, welcoming him into our specialist room and starting

1172
01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:18,400
Speaker 1: to get work. Um, you know when we when we

1173
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 1: all get back together. But I mean, yeah, it's it's

1174
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 1: Blake had a Blake had a ton of good things

1175
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:25,919
Speaker 1: to say um on and off the field. He really

1176
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 1: enjoyed his his rookie year spending time with Matt. Um.

1177
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's yeah, a lot of good things. I'm

1178
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:34,880
Speaker 1: kind of curious too, like if you've spoken to Matt,

1179
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:36,960
Speaker 1: did he kind of chuckle Like I'm going from one

1180
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 1: brother to another. I mean that has to be kind

1181
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 1: of strange for him too from his perspective. I think, so, yeah,

1182
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:46,320
Speaker 1: we we kind of we obviously, UM laughed about it

1183
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 1: because you know, when you're you know, on that first

1184
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 1: phone call, it's kind of the elephant in the room. UM.

1185
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean it, you know, we had we

1186
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 1: had a good laugh about it, and I told him

1187
01:05:55,600 --> 01:06:00,480
Speaker 1: he's with the better brother now, Yeah, no doubt. So

1188
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:03,439
Speaker 1: what's what can we look forward to on the at

1189
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:07,880
Speaker 1: the After the Snap podcast? What's coming up? Yeah? So

1190
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 1: coming up, I think we're gonna have well, like I said,

1191
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 1: we're doing weekly episodes. We'll be doing we did uh,

1192
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 1: Like I said, we had the two snappers that were

1193
01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:21,800
Speaker 1: drafted this week. They both gave some great some great

1194
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 1: insight as to kind of what their training was like

1195
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:27,280
Speaker 1: leading up to the draft. But uh, kind of over

1196
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 1: the summer, we're gonna be getting some guys, some teammates,

1197
01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:32,440
Speaker 1: some guys that we are friends with across the league

1198
01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 1: in for some interviews. I know Blake is really good

1199
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 1: friends with Um Herbert, the quarterback out in for the Chargers,

1200
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 1: So I think he's we're gonna have him on. I

1201
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 1: think they played together in the Senior Bowl last year together.

1202
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 1: But we're we're really just going to be sharing a

1203
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 1: lot of stories kind of starting off because because when

1204
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 1: we were doing um a lot of our social media

1205
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:58,480
Speaker 1: stuff leading up to kind of the first recording and

1206
01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:01,080
Speaker 1: trying to get ideas and topics that people would want

1207
01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:04,000
Speaker 1: to hear from us, a lot of people were interested in, uh,

1208
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 1: you know, funniest guys in the locker room. You know,

1209
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:10,560
Speaker 1: game day routines on the field, how do you what's

1210
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:15,640
Speaker 1: your mentality like going into halftime for a game winning kick,

1211
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 1: different things like that. You know, how do you how

1212
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:22,760
Speaker 1: do you change your mentality as you start the season

1213
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:26,040
Speaker 1: and then you get more comfortable playing games as as

1214
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 1: a team and then you you know, how does that

1215
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 1: change as you in the season and going into the

1216
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:33,120
Speaker 1: playoffs and stuff like that. So I think, um, just

1217
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:36,160
Speaker 1: using our you know, using our platform and using our

1218
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:40,000
Speaker 1: experience over the past couple of years to try and

1219
01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 1: share share some knowledge. All right, man, Well listen, I

1220
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 1: don't know if you've turned your office into a full

1221
01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:48,000
Speaker 1: blown studio yet, but yeah, you get a guest, You're

1222
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:50,360
Speaker 1: gonna need a second mic, my friend, unless you're recording

1223
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:52,480
Speaker 1: on site. Here at one Bill's Drive, you're gonna be

1224
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 1: doing what we do, uh doing his podcast over here

1225
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 1: unbelievably can't turn it into a media make I got

1226
01:07:57,680 --> 01:07:59,520
Speaker 1: one last question before we let you go. I mean,

1227
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:02,760
Speaker 1: I know that, and I don't. I don't know how

1228
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 1: this works, and I'm I'm really am asking. You know,

1229
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 1: they have kicking balls on game days, they have kicking balls,

1230
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:13,080
Speaker 1: and if punters, if they're like anybody else, they probably

1231
01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 1: go through there and they kind of know which there's

1232
01:08:15,720 --> 01:08:18,720
Speaker 1: probably a favorite kicking balls. They probably know that our

1233
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:21,400
Speaker 1: kicking balls are could and you know whatever, when you

1234
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 1: go out on the field a long snap or how

1235
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:27,479
Speaker 1: much control does the team and the long snapper you

1236
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:30,160
Speaker 1: in particular have over which ball they're gonna kick on

1237
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 1: any given series? I mean, how does that work with

1238
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:34,200
Speaker 1: the officials and how willing are they? What kind of

1239
01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:37,720
Speaker 1: conversations surround that, you know what I mean? Yeah, that's

1240
01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:40,639
Speaker 1: a great question and something that I have really tried

1241
01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:45,000
Speaker 1: to dig into over the past couple of years. So

1242
01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:48,840
Speaker 1: on game day, each team gets three k balls as

1243
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 1: you as you mentioned three kicking balls specific too specific

1244
01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:57,040
Speaker 1: to each team and you and one of our Usually

1245
01:08:57,040 --> 01:09:00,400
Speaker 1: it's usually an equipment guy. We have Austin Scobell who

1246
01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 1: does it for us. He does it. He's been doing

1247
01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:04,920
Speaker 1: a great job for a couple of years now. But um,

1248
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:09,720
Speaker 1: he basically gets um about an hour on every game day,

1249
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:13,519
Speaker 1: uh to break in these three footballs. It's not it's

1250
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:16,920
Speaker 1: not like QB balls and and you know, the receiver

1251
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:19,320
Speaker 1: balls and running back balls. They get to use those

1252
01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 1: all we can practice, break them in the whole nine

1253
01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:24,040
Speaker 1: yards and they get to use those on game day.

1254
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:26,920
Speaker 1: They're very you know, they're very picky about it. Um,

1255
01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:30,799
Speaker 1: we're also picky. But unfortunately they change the rules maybe

1256
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:34,479
Speaker 1: fifteen years ago or so to where the K balls

1257
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:37,719
Speaker 1: have to be broken in and uh and everything on

1258
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 1: on game day. So um, i'll you know, he'll our

1259
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:46,920
Speaker 1: our guy, Austin no is very knowledgeable about how Tyler

1260
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 1: and I like the football is to feel on game day.

1261
01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:53,880
Speaker 1: Um Bojo was not too picky about it. And I'm

1262
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:57,040
Speaker 1: not sure if Matt will, but uh, you know, I'm

1263
01:09:57,080 --> 01:10:00,160
Speaker 1: I'm I'm really the one handling most of it. You know,

1264
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:02,680
Speaker 1: Tyler's putting his foot on it, so it doesn't mean

1265
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:05,840
Speaker 1: a ton to him, But as far as the feel

1266
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 1: of it, you know how much it's scrubbed down with

1267
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 1: the brush, how how how fat it is, how how

1268
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:15,759
Speaker 1: long the ball is. That that all makes a difference.

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Speaker 1: But to answer your question, it's it's uh, it's definitely

1270
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:23,840
Speaker 1: a very technical situation on game days to to get

1271
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 1: those footballs right because it can it can make a difference. Definitely.

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01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:31,000
Speaker 1: Well read. Listen, thanks for the time, Good luck with

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01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:35,479
Speaker 1: the After the Snap podcast, and uh, tell your wife

1274
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:38,120
Speaker 1: to have a very happy first Mother's Day. That should

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01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:40,240
Speaker 1: be very special. It always is the first one. So

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01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 1: I hope you uh, I hope you're properly prepared. That's

1277
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:44,960
Speaker 1: a big one for the for the missus. So you

1278
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:48,880
Speaker 1: know it's this Sunday too. Oh yeah, oh yeah, I'm

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01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:51,599
Speaker 1: already prepped. A right, good, I'm already prepped. Good. Good

1280
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:54,599
Speaker 1: luck getting some sleep, and uh, hopefully we can see

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01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:57,800
Speaker 1: you in person sooner rather than later. Fingers crossed on

1282
01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:00,719
Speaker 1: some of these protocols changing before we get to training camp.

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01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:03,960
Speaker 1: All right, yep, sounds good, guys, Thanks for having me,

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01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:06,559
Speaker 1: all right, take care of rad. That's Raid Ferguson, proud

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01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:10,800
Speaker 1: new papa of his daughter Blakely, So congrats to him

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01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 1: on that. That's a big offseason man starting a podcast.

1287
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:16,719
Speaker 1: He's a new dad. Yeah. I gotta tell you, though, Steve,

1288
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:19,439
Speaker 1: you go back fifteen twenty years. There's a lot of

1289
01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:22,240
Speaker 1: stories about those k balls. I mean, those guys, you're

1290
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:26,000
Speaker 1: the equipment guys, can't do everything under the sun to

1291
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:28,800
Speaker 1: those things. Whether they'd run him in a dryer on

1292
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:31,800
Speaker 1: a cold day to keep them warm and expanded so

1293
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:35,000
Speaker 1: they'd fly further. There was when everything when Denny Green

1294
01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:36,880
Speaker 1: was with the when the head coach Dennis Green was

1295
01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:39,559
Speaker 1: with the Vikings. It's the year they their kicker didn't

1296
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:41,519
Speaker 1: miss a kick all the year until the last one

1297
01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 1: that cost him their championship championship game. That's when they

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01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 1: changed the rules. Gary Anderson, it wasn't Gary Anderson, it

1299
01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:52,240
Speaker 1: was and he might have been might have been he

1300
01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:55,719
Speaker 1: had he worked their ball and it was like kicking.

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01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:58,200
Speaker 1: Nobody missed a kick in that building because of the

1302
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:01,439
Speaker 1: way he doctored the ball. They were they were almost round.

1303
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:06,120
Speaker 1: They were like rugby balls and soft and you know,

1304
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:08,040
Speaker 1: and grippy and all of that. And he didn't miss

1305
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:13,200
Speaker 1: a kick all year. And when word got out, yeah, um,

1306
01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:15,880
Speaker 1: the league said wait a minute, and we're gonna stop

1307
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:17,479
Speaker 1: that yeah, so they did. They put a lid on,

1308
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:20,200
Speaker 1: and they were kicking. They were kicking football for a while.

1309
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:23,799
Speaker 1: They were kicking football's right out of the box. And finally,

1310
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:27,160
Speaker 1: you know that it was going sideways a little bit

1311
01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:31,000
Speaker 1: on literally, and the kickers were like going to and

1312
01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:33,280
Speaker 1: the teams are the league said okay, okay, you can

1313
01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:35,880
Speaker 1: have them on game day. Yeah, all right, So that then,

1314
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:38,000
Speaker 1: so now they're to where the point they were a

1315
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:39,519
Speaker 1: lot of the cold weather teams, they used to have

1316
01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:43,479
Speaker 1: their equipment guys run those, throw them in the dry.

1317
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:46,920
Speaker 1: That's only one step, warm them up. That's only that's

1318
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:53,160
Speaker 1: only one step of a multake layered process. They they

1319
01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:56,800
Speaker 1: rubbed clay on him, or dirt or a certain kind

1320
01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:59,479
Speaker 1: of dirt. They rubbed that on him, and scrub them

1321
01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:03,360
Speaker 1: with the broad They put a different another solution on

1322
01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:05,479
Speaker 1: there that takes that on. Then they rub them with

1323
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 1: a certain kind of brush. They put it in a

1324
01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:11,000
Speaker 1: vice to squeeze it just so at the right angle

1325
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:14,800
Speaker 1: the points either at the points or yeah, and or

1326
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:17,840
Speaker 1: at all four panels or all four seams, all of it.

1327
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:20,560
Speaker 1: And and it's oh, you may as well wear a

1328
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:21,880
Speaker 1: lab coat when you go in there, and most of

1329
01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:25,320
Speaker 1: those guys, those ands and goggles, they're all a test tube,

1330
01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:28,920
Speaker 1: poor and test tubes in and out. It's and that's

1331
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:33,879
Speaker 1: why back in the deflate gate controversy when everybody's like going, ah,

1332
01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:37,599
Speaker 1: he's not a listen, there's only one player on every

1333
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:41,479
Speaker 1: team when the who says how the game, the quarter

1334
01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:44,479
Speaker 1: the offensive game balls are going. You just heard Reids

1335
01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:48,400
Speaker 1: say quarterbacks are very particular, very particular the balls that

1336
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:50,439
Speaker 1: they want to use, every single one of them. So

1337
01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:54,160
Speaker 1: if those footballs in back in the day with New England,

1338
01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:57,000
Speaker 1: there is no other person that that gets laid at

1339
01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 1: the feet of not Bill. Bill Belichick play had no idea,

1340
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:05,760
Speaker 1: He didn't care. Tom Brady. He not only had it

1341
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 1: the way he wanted to, but there was some serious

1342
01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:11,200
Speaker 1: pressure on those guys to do it exactly the way

1343
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:13,479
Speaker 1: he wanted them. You can imagine, you know, you got

1344
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:16,040
Speaker 1: this guy Tom Brady telling you how to do it.

1345
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:18,200
Speaker 1: You gotta do it right because you cat out and play.

1346
01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:21,800
Speaker 1: That's just Tom Brady. Every quarterback is like that. That's

1347
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:26,160
Speaker 1: not just Tom Brady. Jim was like that. EJ manuals

1348
01:14:26,240 --> 01:14:28,759
Speaker 1: like that. You go down the list of every quarterback,

1349
01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:35,559
Speaker 1: you know, brought Josh Rosen, Carson Palmer, Dan Fouts, all

1350
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:38,559
Speaker 1: those guys, and and some of them. You know, they

1351
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:41,719
Speaker 1: were ruthless in their treatment of their of the equipment staff.

1352
01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:43,320
Speaker 1: If they didn't do it exactly the way they wanted to,

1353
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:46,360
Speaker 1: how come this isn't stuffed? Right? Yeah, that was real.

1354
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:48,639
Speaker 1: And they come in and they'll handle all of them

1355
01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 1: and they'll throw them. They'll just throw him right in

1356
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:52,720
Speaker 1: the garbage. They'll be like, you don't put that one

1357
01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:54,920
Speaker 1: in the game. To put that one in the game,

1358
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:57,760
Speaker 1: and so they gottah they it is. There is no

1359
01:14:57,800 --> 01:15:00,720
Speaker 1: holds barred. And that's that's why I wouldn't deflate late

1360
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:04,559
Speaker 1: deflate Kate Gate came out. I was like, oh, he's

1361
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:07,439
Speaker 1: probably not alone. That's why you didn't hear quarterbacks going

1362
01:15:07,479 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 1: crazy over Tom Brady cheating, because they were all like,

1363
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:15,720
Speaker 1: oh gosh, we're you're not doing that, are you? Yeah? Right,

1364
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:19,680
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's it's a thing. It's a real thing. Yeah.

1365
01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:22,040
Speaker 1: Break time for us here, a good conversation with read

1366
01:15:22,120 --> 01:15:24,639
Speaker 1: Break time for us here. When we come back, we'll

1367
01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:27,080
Speaker 1: get your thoughts and take more of your questions. At

1368
01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:29,719
Speaker 1: eight O three oh five fifty from the OBL Fan

1369
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:32,680
Speaker 1: Friday mail Bag. That's next here on one Bill's Live,

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01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:46,960
Speaker 1: presented by Kelly to Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome

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01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:49,640
Speaker 1: back to one Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you,

1372
01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:53,799
Speaker 1: and we are still taking your questions and the OBL

1373
01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:56,719
Speaker 1: Fan Friday mail Bag either on Twitter at one bills

1374
01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:59,559
Speaker 1: Live or on the phone lines at eight O three

1375
01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:01,760
Speaker 1: oh five fifty. Any question you might have about the

1376
01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:06,080
Speaker 1: team or the NFL at large, let her rip. But now, Steve,

1377
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:09,400
Speaker 1: we put this off because we had phone callers and uh,

1378
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:11,240
Speaker 1: you know, we wanted to get to them first. But

1379
01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 1: now Steve, it is time for the latest installment of

1380
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:17,760
Speaker 1: Tasker's Teammate, which, as everybody knows, is brought to you

1381
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:23,160
Speaker 1: by Wegman's Meals to Go Delicious Meals Delivered download the

1382
01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:27,040
Speaker 1: Wegman's app today. Steve and a Tasker, you have been

1383
01:16:27,080 --> 01:16:28,960
Speaker 1: on a giant role. I think you've got each of

1384
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:34,360
Speaker 1: the last two on the first clue James lofton last week.

1385
01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:37,439
Speaker 1: I can't even remember who was prior to the one.

1386
01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:39,639
Speaker 1: I'll tell you who it was it was. You got

1387
01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:43,360
Speaker 1: your list there, James Lofton, Marvcus Patton, Marvcus pattent correct.

1388
01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:45,439
Speaker 1: That was I was shocked by that one. You move

1389
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 1: me away on that, Yeah, you were too? Yeah, funny,

1390
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:53,280
Speaker 1: all right, So here we go Clue number one. Born

1391
01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty eight. I grew up in rural farm

1392
01:16:56,160 --> 01:16:58,760
Speaker 1: country like Steve As. My family had a farm that

1393
01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:07,920
Speaker 1: I helped work with my five siblings. John Davis. It

1394
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 1: is not John Davis. I think we've had John Davis

1395
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:14,120
Speaker 1: all right, if I remember right, because I remember he

1396
01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:17,360
Speaker 1: was on Is he on your list? He's not on

1397
01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:19,680
Speaker 1: my list, but I think yeah, we did have him.

1398
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:23,679
Speaker 1: Write him down, Adam to your list now. Clue number two.

1399
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:29,960
Speaker 1: I was a three sport high school star in football, basketball,

1400
01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:34,759
Speaker 1: and baseball, where I was a dominant left handed pitcher,

1401
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:42,960
Speaker 1: left handed pitcher, hold on, hold on, dominant left handed pitcher.

1402
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 1: I thought that was a very interesting clue that I

1403
01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:54,200
Speaker 1: uncovered in this teammates bio. So I was like, wow,

1404
01:17:54,439 --> 01:17:57,880
Speaker 1: because you don't usually if you're so A lot of

1405
01:17:57,880 --> 01:17:59,600
Speaker 1: guys go that route, you know, especially if they're a

1406
01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:04,639
Speaker 1: good pitch ye left handers, especially Yeah, I don't know. Okay,

1407
01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:09,360
Speaker 1: we move on to clue number three. My football exploits

1408
01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:12,800
Speaker 1: earned me an opportunity at a smaller school program, but

1409
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:16,400
Speaker 1: one that was very successful, as my team had two

1410
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:23,080
Speaker 1: undefeated seasons during my time there. We've already done. Keith

1411
01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:25,880
Speaker 1: mckeller has been on more on nationally. You've already done.

1412
01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:33,320
Speaker 1: Pete Wheat Straw, Pete Mets Laws Boy Boil Boil Brap

1413
01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:44,000
Speaker 1: a smaller school undefeated two undefeated seasons. Bryce Pop, it

1414
01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:48,599
Speaker 1: is not Bryce Pop. That exposure helped me earn an

1415
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:52,160
Speaker 1: opportunity to play in the East West Shrine Game, which

1416
01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:55,160
Speaker 1: then helped me land on the NFL radar and get

1417
01:18:55,200 --> 01:19:02,719
Speaker 1: an NFL Combine invite. My successful pre draft performances helped

1418
01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:06,640
Speaker 1: boost me into becoming a second round draft choice of

1419
01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:17,320
Speaker 1: the Bills. Oh Man Bucky Brooks, No, it is not

1420
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:19,800
Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks. He was a second round draft pick though.

1421
01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:24,200
Speaker 1: Russ Copeland. It is not Russell Copeland second round see

1422
01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:26,599
Speaker 1: I oh gosh, I should get these. So he's six

1423
01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:28,960
Speaker 1: more than sixty eight. That means he came in. I

1424
01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:33,120
Speaker 1: was like six years into my career. He's like ninety

1425
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:40,960
Speaker 1: ninety two year two. Al Edwards It is not Al Edwards.

1426
01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:45,439
Speaker 1: I was a teammate of Steve's for seven seasons. Wow.

1427
01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:49,360
Speaker 1: And during my off days, I would work on a

1428
01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:57,600
Speaker 1: farm in Batavia. Chris Moore, it is not Chrismore. This

1429
01:19:57,720 --> 01:20:02,840
Speaker 1: is getting juicy now. I played my entire eleven year

1430
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:06,920
Speaker 1: career with Buffalo, becoming one of seventeen players to play

1431
01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:11,080
Speaker 1: eleven more eleven seasons or more for the Bills before

1432
01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:22,759
Speaker 1: retiring in two thousand and one. Wow, So, so ninety

1433
01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:29,920
Speaker 1: was this year. Well, I'm struggling, really struggled. Ninety I'll

1434
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:31,920
Speaker 1: give you a hand at ninety one was his first year.

1435
01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:39,240
Speaker 1: That was the same year. Okay, that was second round draft.

1436
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:46,160
Speaker 1: Henry Jones was first rounder. Not John Perella, Nope, because

1437
01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:50,840
Speaker 1: he left. I think he was the ninety two draft. Well,

1438
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:53,439
Speaker 1: I don't know. Okay, we go on to the next clue.

1439
01:20:54,080 --> 01:20:57,240
Speaker 1: Much like Steve, I also bought land in my home

1440
01:20:57,400 --> 01:21:02,240
Speaker 1: state of Minnesota. Were my brothers to farm before I

1441
01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:05,280
Speaker 1: joined them after my playing career was over. Oh, I

1442
01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:09,599
Speaker 1: know who it is now, Phil Hanson. It is Phil Hansen.

1443
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:14,439
Speaker 1: Very well done. Stephen A tasker. Yes, yes, left handed pitcher.

1444
01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:16,400
Speaker 1: Didn't ever tell you that. I didn't know that. I

1445
01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:19,800
Speaker 1: didn't know he was a lefty, yeah, which maybe helped

1446
01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:23,080
Speaker 1: him a lot at left defensive end. What a tremendous Yeah,

1447
01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:26,920
Speaker 1: he was a vastly underrated player. And you know that.

1448
01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:32,920
Speaker 1: The thing I remember about him just a yes, solid

1449
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:35,040
Speaker 1: guy obviously, you know, he's just one of those guys.

1450
01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:38,600
Speaker 1: What I remember about him most was the year that

1451
01:21:38,680 --> 01:21:42,040
Speaker 1: the Bills went to their third Super Bowl. We had

1452
01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:44,240
Speaker 1: to That was the year of the comeback game, the

1453
01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:48,920
Speaker 1: greatest comeback in NFL history. And Marv said it, and

1454
01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:51,200
Speaker 1: because I didn't really realize because we didn't watch that

1455
01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:55,519
Speaker 1: film of that side of the ball, but Marv said

1456
01:21:55,960 --> 01:22:03,080
Speaker 1: that one of the key ingredients and and contributions from

1457
01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:05,880
Speaker 1: any player on the team during that game. Everybody talked

1458
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:08,479
Speaker 1: about Frank and his quarterback play and all that. He said,

1459
01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:11,320
Speaker 1: the second half that Phil Hanson put on the field

1460
01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:14,280
Speaker 1: in the in the comeback game was maybe one of

1461
01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:19,000
Speaker 1: the great performances by any Bill. He just stopped making

1462
01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:22,519
Speaker 1: every stop. Imagine he was running place down from behind.

1463
01:22:23,080 --> 01:22:26,720
Speaker 1: Key elements of the game where his you know, contributions

1464
01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:28,759
Speaker 1: from him. I'm not saying he you know, made sacks

1465
01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:30,360
Speaker 1: or anything like that, but he did make a couple

1466
01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:35,320
Speaker 1: of He made one or two tackles that were drive

1467
01:22:35,400 --> 01:22:39,880
Speaker 1: stopping plays for us against their offense that he made

1468
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:44,280
Speaker 1: with an unbelievably extra effort one on a screenplayer I

1469
01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:49,080
Speaker 1: remember in particular, but he's Marvin Particular mentioned Phil Hanson

1470
01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:51,120
Speaker 1: in the second half of the Houston game, and the

1471
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:56,280
Speaker 1: greatest comeback was maybe his finest moment as a bill.

1472
01:22:56,680 --> 01:22:59,320
Speaker 1: He points half as a Bill and he's added, he

1473
01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:01,639
Speaker 1: had a good ways number two whole time in sacks, right,

1474
01:23:01,840 --> 01:23:06,519
Speaker 1: no Shobyl pass left. He was Yeah. When he finished

1475
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:08,639
Speaker 1: his career here, he was second in sacks with sixty

1476
01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:11,040
Speaker 1: one and a half. I want to say he still

1477
01:23:11,040 --> 01:23:13,920
Speaker 1: holds the record for mossacks in North Dakota State history.

1478
01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:15,600
Speaker 1: I didn't want to give you the school because that

1479
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:17,120
Speaker 1: would have I mean, you would have got it in

1480
01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:19,160
Speaker 1: a second. I got in that one yet. But how

1481
01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:22,920
Speaker 1: about this. The guy wins back to back national titles

1482
01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:25,960
Speaker 1: at North Dakota State, which at the time was Division two, right,

1483
01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:28,880
Speaker 1: then comes here and goes to three straight Super Bowls.

1484
01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:32,200
Speaker 1: I mean, you want to talk about winning, man, Holy crush.

1485
01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:36,639
Speaker 1: He he's still a winner and the guy's got that mentalities. Um. Now,

1486
01:23:36,680 --> 01:23:38,439
Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you a funny story that I

1487
01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:43,080
Speaker 1: learned because I was doing this draft series on former

1488
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:45,559
Speaker 1: Bills players for Buffalo Bills dot Com and I did

1489
01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:49,439
Speaker 1: fill and he was talking about how the draft was

1490
01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:53,960
Speaker 1: different then than it is now and back then, ESPN

1491
01:23:54,040 --> 01:23:57,280
Speaker 1: only aired Round one of the draft. Right, So he's

1492
01:23:57,280 --> 01:24:01,439
Speaker 1: sitting there in his apartment on campus watching the draft

1493
01:24:02,240 --> 01:24:05,040
Speaker 1: Round one ends and he still hasn't been picked yet.

1494
01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:07,559
Speaker 1: So now he's thinking to himself, well, do I hang

1495
01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:10,120
Speaker 1: around by the phone, you know, in case they call?

1496
01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:12,519
Speaker 1: Or how long should I wait? Like, because he's like,

1497
01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:14,360
Speaker 1: I didn't know I was gonna be round two, three, four,

1498
01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:16,880
Speaker 1: I didn't know and if that was back when the

1499
01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:18,920
Speaker 1: first three rounds were day one and then four through

1500
01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:22,400
Speaker 1: seven was day two. So he's like, I'm only hanging

1501
01:24:22,439 --> 01:24:25,880
Speaker 1: around until four thirty. That was the cutoff time for him.

1502
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:28,320
Speaker 1: But the Bills called him before that. And here's an

1503
01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:32,639
Speaker 1: even better one. So he was still going to classes

1504
01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:36,679
Speaker 1: in the spring when scouts were coming in to work

1505
01:24:36,760 --> 01:24:39,960
Speaker 1: him out on campus. Right, it was much different environ

1506
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:43,960
Speaker 1: right then. Yeah, so he's in class in March and

1507
01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:46,280
Speaker 1: his coach would have to call him, called the teacher

1508
01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:48,760
Speaker 1: in the classroom, Hey, you know, the Jets are here.

1509
01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:51,240
Speaker 1: They got to pull him out of class. So here's

1510
01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:55,479
Speaker 1: the best part working out outside of North Dakota in March.

1511
01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:58,400
Speaker 1: That's not really happening. So now you got to go

1512
01:24:58,439 --> 01:25:02,120
Speaker 1: to the gym. Problem is the Jim's book. Yes, they

1513
01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:05,120
Speaker 1: got athletic events. So he told me they had to

1514
01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:08,400
Speaker 1: go to a local high school, Fargo North High School.

1515
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:12,479
Speaker 1: He goes, I'm running short shuttles in the hallway of

1516
01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:15,599
Speaker 1: a high school for Doug Majeski, who was still on

1517
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:18,600
Speaker 1: the scouting staff. He's like, I'm running short shuttles for

1518
01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:24,360
Speaker 1: him in a high school hallway. Life's different. Life is different,

1519
01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:27,000
Speaker 1: no TV cameras, no nothing, And that's kind of the

1520
01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:29,040
Speaker 1: light you can think about the life of a scout. Yeah,

1521
01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:31,360
Speaker 1: he's like, he didn't make me run of forty. He's like,

1522
01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:34,599
Speaker 1: but I was running short shuttles in the hallway. It

1523
01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:36,880
Speaker 1: was nuts. It was the same way we were having

1524
01:25:36,920 --> 01:25:41,240
Speaker 1: this conversation before the show. Same thing happened to me.

1525
01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:43,800
Speaker 1: I there was no we didn't have a pro day.

1526
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:46,240
Speaker 1: Was my junior as my senior year, but I read shirted,

1527
01:25:46,240 --> 01:25:47,800
Speaker 1: so I was kind of there and I went through

1528
01:25:47,800 --> 01:25:50,120
Speaker 1: the process, but I stayed in school when they read

1529
01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:53,439
Speaker 1: shirted me and I came back and there was no

1530
01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:58,040
Speaker 1: pro day for Northwestern Wildcats at that time, and I

1531
01:25:58,080 --> 01:25:59,960
Speaker 1: didn't you know, I was a I didn't get invited

1532
01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:05,240
Speaker 1: the combine. I'm I mean no way. So I would

1533
01:26:05,439 --> 01:26:08,599
Speaker 1: hang out and I played rugby to stay in shape

1534
01:26:09,400 --> 01:26:12,280
Speaker 1: and have some structure so that I could be ready

1535
01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:15,720
Speaker 1: to work out if And this is what happened a

1536
01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:18,719
Speaker 1: team on a Monday, I'd say, they'd call me and say, hey,

1537
01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:21,600
Speaker 1: guys coming in from the Broncos and wants you to

1538
01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:25,920
Speaker 1: work out for him tomorrow. Where what time? Now, Okay,

1539
01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:28,000
Speaker 1: I'll be there. And the same thing was, you know,

1540
01:26:28,040 --> 01:26:30,840
Speaker 1: it just happened like next Thursday. You guys coming in,

1541
01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:32,920
Speaker 1: you know, so you get sometimes a couple of days.

1542
01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:35,800
Speaker 1: Most of the time is like two. You had to

1543
01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:38,200
Speaker 1: be ready. So I played rugby to stay in shape

1544
01:26:38,200 --> 01:26:39,679
Speaker 1: for that. And that's the way it was for Phil.

1545
01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:41,280
Speaker 1: I mean, all these guys back then, it was just

1546
01:26:41,320 --> 01:26:44,080
Speaker 1: an entirely different world. In typical Phil fashion. Though it

1547
01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:46,599
Speaker 1: feels like it was embarrassing. He's like, I had to

1548
01:26:46,640 --> 01:26:48,920
Speaker 1: tell the we gotta go to this high school to

1549
01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:52,880
Speaker 1: rugby rills. He's like, I'm in the Scouts rental car.

1550
01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:55,519
Speaker 1: We're driving to the He goes it was ridiculous. Like

1551
01:26:55,800 --> 01:26:57,439
Speaker 1: when you think about how they do it now, it's

1552
01:26:57,479 --> 01:26:59,840
Speaker 1: like they got it on TV now Pro Days, right,

1553
01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:04,439
Speaker 1: they're televising Fargo North High School. Well, I mean yeah,

1554
01:27:04,439 --> 01:27:08,040
Speaker 1: it's how different it is. The SEC has their own network,

1555
01:27:08,080 --> 01:27:13,000
Speaker 1: the Big twelve network, ACC Network, um, so they televise

1556
01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:16,360
Speaker 1: all these pro Days and you know it's a scene

1557
01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:19,439
Speaker 1: b scene and for these guys are going they want

1558
01:27:19,439 --> 01:27:21,639
Speaker 1: to know how much thirty years makes a difference. Yeah,

1559
01:27:21,680 --> 01:27:24,400
Speaker 1: and that's the growth of the league as well. All right,

1560
01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:26,320
Speaker 1: that was good. That was a good Tasker's team, right,

1561
01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:29,479
Speaker 1: great time for us. When we return, we returned to

1562
01:27:29,479 --> 01:27:32,040
Speaker 1: the OBL fan mail bag. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker back

1563
01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:46,639
Speaker 1: in a flash. We'll see in a second. Welcome back

1564
01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:49,479
Speaker 1: to One Bill's Live, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you

1565
01:27:49,479 --> 01:27:52,160
Speaker 1: were motoring our way through a Friday edition and the

1566
01:27:52,280 --> 01:27:55,920
Speaker 1: ob L fan mail bag is back open and we

1567
01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:59,400
Speaker 1: are going to see what Jack has for us. On

1568
01:27:59,479 --> 01:28:02,400
Speaker 1: the tweet, he says, looking at the way the draft

1569
01:28:02,439 --> 01:28:06,120
Speaker 1: played out with three offensive linemen and two defensive linemen,

1570
01:28:06,479 --> 01:28:10,919
Speaker 1: who are the losers out on a roster spot to rookies?

1571
01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:15,440
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone expects us to cut a first, second, third,

1572
01:28:15,560 --> 01:28:17,640
Speaker 1: or fifth rounders. So what guys are really going to

1573
01:28:17,680 --> 01:28:20,599
Speaker 1: be in a fight and hard up to make the roster?

1574
01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:25,559
Speaker 1: Who makes the most sense to let go? As Steve

1575
01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:27,000
Speaker 1: said earlier in the show, there are gonna be a

1576
01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:29,320
Speaker 1: lot of tough decisions that are gonna have to be

1577
01:28:29,360 --> 01:28:32,680
Speaker 1: made by this coaching staff, and they're gonna let the

1578
01:28:32,720 --> 01:28:36,599
Speaker 1: players make the decisions. So for us to like throw

1579
01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:39,040
Speaker 1: names out at you, I think it would almost be

1580
01:28:39,040 --> 01:28:41,720
Speaker 1: foolhardy because it's gonna be based largely on performance in

1581
01:28:41,800 --> 01:28:43,639
Speaker 1: the field. We've got a long way to go before

1582
01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:45,960
Speaker 1: we know who's even going to be available to make

1583
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:48,160
Speaker 1: the team. There's going to be injuries in a precis

1584
01:28:48,439 --> 01:28:51,840
Speaker 1: and that's the other thing, changes and all that stuff.

1585
01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:55,479
Speaker 1: So I'm not even gonna get into it, but you

1586
01:28:55,520 --> 01:28:57,200
Speaker 1: can take your go to the roster. You can make

1587
01:28:57,200 --> 01:29:01,040
Speaker 1: those decisions yourself. See what you think they're gonna keep.

1588
01:29:01,160 --> 01:29:05,479
Speaker 1: Probably four defensive ends, four defensive tackles, Maybe an extra

1589
01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:08,080
Speaker 1: guy at one of those spots if he's a special

1590
01:29:08,120 --> 01:29:10,760
Speaker 1: teams guy or a helper or a contributor in some

1591
01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:14,920
Speaker 1: way safe shape or form. Probably nine offensive linemen, yet

1592
01:29:15,080 --> 01:29:18,519
Speaker 1: eight or nine offensive linemen, probably have eight active on

1593
01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:25,519
Speaker 1: game day. They'll have six wideouts again this year, two

1594
01:29:25,560 --> 01:29:31,080
Speaker 1: to three tight ends, two running backs, maybe three running

1595
01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:35,760
Speaker 1: backs with Taiwan Jones. You know, you can go down

1596
01:29:35,760 --> 01:29:39,479
Speaker 1: and do the numbers yourself. And that's that's it's it's

1597
01:29:39,479 --> 01:29:42,360
Speaker 1: gonna be hard. It's gonna be difficult. Maybe not all

1598
01:29:42,400 --> 01:29:45,439
Speaker 1: these draft picks do make it. Maybe there are some

1599
01:29:45,520 --> 01:29:47,680
Speaker 1: guys who you know that are near and dear to

1600
01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:50,280
Speaker 1: us that aren't going to be here. Who knows, but

1601
01:29:51,240 --> 01:29:54,360
Speaker 1: the one break they do get and their rosters defensively,

1602
01:29:56,080 --> 01:30:00,000
Speaker 1: they only play two linebackers, so they'll probably only keep four.

1603
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:03,000
Speaker 1: We're active, yeah, and that depending on how many is

1604
01:30:03,040 --> 01:30:05,320
Speaker 1: on specials. That's right, and that gives you some well

1605
01:30:05,360 --> 01:30:07,920
Speaker 1: and that's where Darryl J. Bam Johnson comes into play.

1606
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:10,040
Speaker 1: You can get keep defensive lineman if they can play.

1607
01:30:10,160 --> 01:30:13,200
Speaker 1: Justin Zimmer's got speed to play special teams, so you

1608
01:30:13,240 --> 01:30:15,559
Speaker 1: don't really need to keep you know, you know that

1609
01:30:15,640 --> 01:30:18,639
Speaker 1: many linebackers. That gives you more space at defensive back

1610
01:30:19,560 --> 01:30:24,920
Speaker 1: and defensive line. So most teams will keep twenty two

1611
01:30:24,960 --> 01:30:31,400
Speaker 1: to twenty three defensive players and twenty five to twenty

1612
01:30:31,400 --> 01:30:35,840
Speaker 1: six offensive players and three specialists and wherever that however

1613
01:30:35,880 --> 01:30:38,120
Speaker 1: that works out, and then you've got those extra one

1614
01:30:38,200 --> 01:30:42,719
Speaker 1: or two spots to play with. So we'll see, Max says,

1615
01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:46,320
Speaker 1: chances in a percentage that we win the AFC and

1616
01:30:46,400 --> 01:30:49,240
Speaker 1: represent them in the super Bowl, in your opinion, And

1617
01:30:49,400 --> 01:30:53,120
Speaker 1: chances that Josh wins MVP if he's healthy for all

1618
01:30:53,800 --> 01:31:01,120
Speaker 1: seventeen games. Apparently this can he check a sports book

1619
01:31:01,160 --> 01:31:05,440
Speaker 1: for this, because he's he's asking us. Yeah, chances percentage

1620
01:31:05,439 --> 01:31:07,720
Speaker 1: wise that the Bills win the AFC and represent the

1621
01:31:07,760 --> 01:31:10,880
Speaker 1: conference in the super Bowl. One chances that Josh wins

1622
01:31:10,960 --> 01:31:13,760
Speaker 1: MVP and is healthy for all seventeen games if he's

1623
01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:15,479
Speaker 1: healthy for all, it's one. And hey, it's one in

1624
01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:18,639
Speaker 1: sixteen for the conference and it's one, and well, it's

1625
01:31:18,640 --> 01:31:22,680
Speaker 1: probably a little better than that, better than than other

1626
01:31:22,720 --> 01:31:25,040
Speaker 1: guys of course in the rookies and all that. But

1627
01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:31,559
Speaker 1: I mean, that's like trying to pick all thirty two

1628
01:31:31,600 --> 01:31:36,439
Speaker 1: spots in the draft. You just can't do, right. I

1629
01:31:36,479 --> 01:31:40,280
Speaker 1: will say this definitively, this Bill's team is gonna be

1630
01:31:40,320 --> 01:31:43,200
Speaker 1: really good offensively again this year. They're gonna be a handful.

1631
01:31:43,320 --> 01:31:44,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're going to score thirty points

1632
01:31:44,880 --> 01:31:46,479
Speaker 1: a game or twenty nine and a half like they

1633
01:31:46,479 --> 01:31:49,599
Speaker 1: did last year. But they're gonna be good. They're gonna

1634
01:31:49,600 --> 01:31:54,760
Speaker 1: be really good, and barring of rash of injuries and

1635
01:31:54,880 --> 01:31:58,040
Speaker 1: all of that, and you know they're they're gonna be

1636
01:31:58,240 --> 01:32:03,880
Speaker 1: in the conversation when it gets I'm close. So yeah,

1637
01:32:04,160 --> 01:32:06,240
Speaker 1: I'm I don't know what percentage you put that on,

1638
01:32:06,439 --> 01:32:10,840
Speaker 1: but you know, the New England Patriots are gonna be

1639
01:32:10,880 --> 01:32:13,840
Speaker 1: a markedly better team this year, which means what you're

1640
01:32:13,840 --> 01:32:16,880
Speaker 1: gonna split with them. Miami's gonna be a markedly better

1641
01:32:16,920 --> 01:32:20,639
Speaker 1: team this year. You're gonna split with them. The Jets

1642
01:32:20,640 --> 01:32:22,559
Speaker 1: and a rookie quarterback. I think you gotta think you

1643
01:32:22,600 --> 01:32:25,960
Speaker 1: gotta sweep those guys. That's four and two in the division.

1644
01:32:26,040 --> 01:32:29,599
Speaker 1: Is that gonna be good enough? We'll see. It depends

1645
01:32:29,600 --> 01:32:32,479
Speaker 1: on what Miami does against New England and what the

1646
01:32:32,640 --> 01:32:37,360
Speaker 1: Jets do against those two. Miami, yeah, they have been

1647
01:32:37,400 --> 01:32:41,400
Speaker 1: a couple of close games, but when Josh and have

1648
01:32:41,439 --> 01:32:46,240
Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmonds or Matt Milano, and Josh has lumped those

1649
01:32:46,280 --> 01:32:49,920
Speaker 1: guys up for whatever reason, I'm not saying that. Yeah,

1650
01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:52,320
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's gonna happen for his entire career.

1651
01:32:52,840 --> 01:32:56,000
Speaker 1: But up to this point, the Dolphins gotta be looking

1652
01:32:56,000 --> 01:33:00,280
Speaker 1: at Buffalo going yeah, I don't know. Breakdown time for

1653
01:33:00,360 --> 01:33:04,040
Speaker 1: us when we return, it's the Bill's third round draft

1654
01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:06,920
Speaker 1: selection coming your way, as he will be joining us.

1655
01:33:07,520 --> 01:33:11,479
Speaker 1: One Spencer Brown, the Pride of Northern Iowa, joins us

1656
01:33:11,520 --> 01:33:14,040
Speaker 1: next here on one Bill's Line, presented by Collid to Health.

1657
01:33:14,400 --> 01:33:36,240
Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bill's Radio at a Steve Tasker who

1658
01:33:36,280 --> 01:33:38,760
Speaker 1: has been all over the field. Kind of unique. He

1659
01:33:38,800 --> 01:33:40,960
Speaker 1: was kind of a dual role player for you, Steve,

1660
01:33:42,280 --> 01:33:51,519
Speaker 1: Steve a blimp. We're not even in the stratgere of normalcy. Well,

1661
01:33:51,560 --> 01:33:54,040
Speaker 1: welcome back to our number three of the show. And

1662
01:33:54,280 --> 01:33:56,639
Speaker 1: three is the right number for us because we are

1663
01:33:56,680 --> 01:34:00,959
Speaker 1: bringing in the Bill's third round draft selection from last weekend.

1664
01:34:01,840 --> 01:34:04,439
Speaker 1: And I'll just say personally, I'm happy to have another

1665
01:34:04,439 --> 01:34:07,679
Speaker 1: Brown on the roster again. So it is one Spencer

1666
01:34:07,760 --> 01:34:11,040
Speaker 1: Brown joining us, the Pride of Northern Iowa and h

1667
01:34:11,320 --> 01:34:13,960
Speaker 1: Spencer First, congrats again. I know it's probably been a

1668
01:34:13,960 --> 01:34:16,760
Speaker 1: whirlwind of a week for you, but glad to have

1669
01:34:16,840 --> 01:34:19,760
Speaker 1: you on here with us. Congratulations and what have you

1670
01:34:19,840 --> 01:34:22,160
Speaker 1: been doing the last couple of days now that the

1671
01:34:22,520 --> 01:34:27,800
Speaker 1: crescendo of emotion is kind of crested here. Oh first,

1672
01:34:27,920 --> 01:34:30,400
Speaker 1: thanks for having me. It's grateful to be on the show.

1673
01:34:30,400 --> 01:34:32,160
Speaker 1: And the last couple of days just kind of getting

1674
01:34:32,200 --> 01:34:34,120
Speaker 1: back in the swing of things. I'm back in the

1675
01:34:34,120 --> 01:34:35,800
Speaker 1: way here and backs are running, just kind of getting

1676
01:34:35,840 --> 01:34:38,920
Speaker 1: ready for Ricky Minicamp and all that to take offs.

1677
01:34:39,080 --> 01:34:41,519
Speaker 1: So I'm looking forward to that. Well, I was really

1678
01:34:42,280 --> 01:34:44,519
Speaker 1: I could really relate to you on draft night. Yea,

1679
01:34:44,560 --> 01:34:46,320
Speaker 1: you grew up in lenox, Iowa. I grew up in

1680
01:34:46,360 --> 01:34:49,760
Speaker 1: a small town exactly like in my town had one stoplight.

1681
01:34:49,840 --> 01:34:51,599
Speaker 1: When I grew up, there were about there are about

1682
01:34:51,640 --> 01:34:54,639
Speaker 1: two thousand people in the entire county, and I could

1683
01:34:54,640 --> 01:34:56,800
Speaker 1: really relate to you having like forty people in the

1684
01:34:57,040 --> 01:34:58,640
Speaker 1: You gott to open the garage because that's you know,

1685
01:34:58,640 --> 01:35:00,760
Speaker 1: you got to have the room for him, right, And

1686
01:35:00,800 --> 01:35:03,040
Speaker 1: then as soon as the word got out, everybody showed

1687
01:35:03,080 --> 01:35:05,000
Speaker 1: up at the house. Right. That must have been really

1688
01:35:05,000 --> 01:35:09,040
Speaker 1: special for you and your family. Yeah, it was awesome

1689
01:35:09,400 --> 01:35:11,680
Speaker 1: coming from a small You actually one up me. I

1690
01:35:11,680 --> 01:35:14,040
Speaker 1: don't have any stoplights my hometown, just stop signs and

1691
01:35:14,120 --> 01:35:17,040
Speaker 1: a bunch of yield. There you go. You're big. You're

1692
01:35:17,080 --> 01:35:19,120
Speaker 1: more big time than I was in my small town.

1693
01:35:19,400 --> 01:35:22,160
Speaker 1: But uh, it was it was pretty awesome on a

1694
01:35:22,200 --> 01:35:24,080
Speaker 1: small community like that. It's an awesome place to grow

1695
01:35:24,160 --> 01:35:27,439
Speaker 1: up and then um just just celebrate. The therapist supported

1696
01:35:27,439 --> 01:35:29,000
Speaker 1: me from from day one. Was it was a really

1697
01:35:29,080 --> 01:35:31,719
Speaker 1: really good time. Yeah. I should mention because after Steve

1698
01:35:31,840 --> 01:35:35,000
Speaker 1: watched the video, you know that somebody there shot of

1699
01:35:35,120 --> 01:35:38,080
Speaker 1: you know, you getting the phone call. What Steve noticed

1700
01:35:38,160 --> 01:35:40,040
Speaker 1: was not all the people going nuts in the background.

1701
01:35:40,320 --> 01:35:45,439
Speaker 1: Steve noticed the turned over cable line spool. Uh that

1702
01:35:45,560 --> 01:35:48,400
Speaker 1: was sitting there doubling as a table. Because he recognized

1703
01:35:48,439 --> 01:35:50,880
Speaker 1: that's the first thing he recognized, right those that's part

1704
01:35:50,920 --> 01:35:53,920
Speaker 1: of that's good furniture. Right there is the power line

1705
01:35:54,880 --> 01:35:57,000
Speaker 1: you gotta did you have? Is that sanded off at

1706
01:35:57,040 --> 01:35:59,719
Speaker 1: the top two and put you put it? It's finished?

1707
01:36:00,920 --> 01:36:02,559
Speaker 1: It was it was saying it off. We had about

1708
01:36:02,560 --> 01:36:05,439
Speaker 1: three or four of those, and uh they went as tables.

1709
01:36:05,520 --> 01:36:08,160
Speaker 1: We had some fire pits mounted on them. So we

1710
01:36:08,680 --> 01:36:10,960
Speaker 1: those together what we have, that's for sure. But I

1711
01:36:11,320 --> 01:36:13,960
Speaker 1: that was part of the furniture for me well into

1712
01:36:14,000 --> 01:36:16,200
Speaker 1: my twenties, for sure. I mean I was you know

1713
01:36:16,280 --> 01:36:19,400
Speaker 1: that that's a common thing that uh. And for those

1714
01:36:19,479 --> 01:36:21,479
Speaker 1: people who don't know, those big wooden spools that the

1715
01:36:21,560 --> 01:36:24,280
Speaker 1: power company uses to hold cable when they deploy it,

1716
01:36:24,439 --> 01:36:26,280
Speaker 1: they just kind of throw those off to the side.

1717
01:36:27,160 --> 01:36:30,240
Speaker 1: You can latch onto those. Man, that's like that's a

1718
01:36:30,280 --> 01:36:33,800
Speaker 1: bar table for Oh my god, last year decades man,

1719
01:36:34,280 --> 01:36:36,439
Speaker 1: right was Gray? I was proud of you that that

1720
01:36:36,520 --> 01:36:38,920
Speaker 1: was that one struck up plus with of course the

1721
01:36:38,960 --> 01:36:43,120
Speaker 1: red Solo cups were great as well. You m give

1722
01:36:43,120 --> 01:36:47,320
Speaker 1: any idea. Now what about you know, obviously your towns

1723
01:36:47,320 --> 01:36:51,000
Speaker 1: still a buzz. How much or how many people have

1724
01:36:51,040 --> 01:36:54,200
Speaker 1: you noticed now they're starting to wear Buffalo Bills gear

1725
01:36:54,360 --> 01:36:59,120
Speaker 1: that who Lennox, Iowa? Was that like Chiefs Country. It's

1726
01:36:59,120 --> 01:37:02,960
Speaker 1: a little bit early Chiefs Packers, Vikings, Broncos. It's kind

1727
01:37:02,960 --> 01:37:06,519
Speaker 1: of all over the place. Obviously, Team so and whoever

1728
01:37:06,560 --> 01:37:09,320
Speaker 1: you attached onto, whoever your family family cheered on. But

1729
01:37:09,320 --> 01:37:13,040
Speaker 1: I think it's it's wall once Whitney Bills Country for sure. Um.

1730
01:37:13,080 --> 01:37:17,240
Speaker 1: I've received numerous pictures of kids wearing Buffalo Bills stuff.

1731
01:37:17,240 --> 01:37:19,759
Speaker 1: The school kind of had like a like the newest

1732
01:37:19,800 --> 01:37:21,559
Speaker 1: bill and it was like my pictures from I was

1733
01:37:21,560 --> 01:37:23,400
Speaker 1: like an elementary, like they had them on the on

1734
01:37:23,439 --> 01:37:26,479
Speaker 1: the walls, like I said, of um, like George Washington.

1735
01:37:26,560 --> 01:37:30,200
Speaker 1: Then it was my face bill. It was pretty It's

1736
01:37:30,240 --> 01:37:33,960
Speaker 1: pretty cool. And have they thought about retiring your jersey

1737
01:37:34,000 --> 01:37:37,200
Speaker 1: and the high school and all that kind of stuff. Now,

1738
01:37:37,240 --> 01:37:39,880
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think that's gonna be happening talks

1739
01:37:39,920 --> 01:37:42,400
Speaker 1: like that. Just the new bill thing was pretty cool.

1740
01:37:42,439 --> 01:37:44,160
Speaker 1: And yeah that like the little kids are having me

1741
01:37:44,160 --> 01:37:47,280
Speaker 1: signed dollar bills, so that's kind of that's kind of cool. Yeah,

1742
01:37:47,280 --> 01:37:51,599
Speaker 1: speaking of high school, our our crack staff here on

1743
01:37:51,640 --> 01:37:55,040
Speaker 1: the production end found some, uh, some great photos of

1744
01:37:55,080 --> 01:37:57,960
Speaker 1: you in high school playing some hoops, getting up around

1745
01:37:58,040 --> 01:38:01,360
Speaker 1: the rim um. I know you're all state in basketball.

1746
01:38:02,640 --> 01:38:05,200
Speaker 1: Twenty points a game, eighteen boards a game. I had

1747
01:38:05,240 --> 01:38:08,040
Speaker 1: like a forty point forty boards game. Like, who was

1748
01:38:08,080 --> 01:38:10,000
Speaker 1: the center on the other team? Was he my height?

1749
01:38:10,040 --> 01:38:12,920
Speaker 1: I'm like five to seven forty rebounds. Man, either your

1750
01:38:12,960 --> 01:38:15,160
Speaker 1: team is a horrible shooting team or you are just

1751
01:38:15,240 --> 01:38:19,960
Speaker 1: that good off the glass. I pretty much my second

1752
01:38:19,960 --> 01:38:21,280
Speaker 1: home was in the lane. I was pretty much a

1753
01:38:21,280 --> 01:38:24,320
Speaker 1: liability outside of that, so I didn't mentioned too far

1754
01:38:24,400 --> 01:38:27,519
Speaker 1: outside that. But yeah, the forty points for a rebound game,

1755
01:38:27,560 --> 01:38:29,760
Speaker 1: that was a game that win, like three overtimes, so

1756
01:38:30,120 --> 01:38:32,000
Speaker 1: and at the end of it, like the third overtime,

1757
01:38:32,040 --> 01:38:33,960
Speaker 1: I was the only started left night at four fouls,

1758
01:38:33,960 --> 01:38:36,240
Speaker 1: so I was out there just kind of getting tired.

1759
01:38:36,320 --> 01:38:39,040
Speaker 1: But it turned into a JV type game. Everybody was

1760
01:38:39,360 --> 01:38:42,080
Speaker 1: fouled out, so just pretty much me and the second

1761
01:38:42,120 --> 01:38:44,280
Speaker 1: and third steers out there. But if actually end up

1762
01:38:44,320 --> 01:38:47,439
Speaker 1: losing that game, fun fact, shout out to stand nih

1763
01:38:47,720 --> 01:38:50,360
Speaker 1: they squeeze it out. Now there you go. I've been there.

1764
01:38:50,520 --> 01:38:52,800
Speaker 1: There are what kind of what other things? I mean,

1765
01:38:52,800 --> 01:38:55,640
Speaker 1: you played tight end and on the football team, you

1766
01:38:55,760 --> 01:38:58,400
Speaker 1: you you are thrower in track. What are some of

1767
01:38:58,439 --> 01:38:59,800
Speaker 1: the other things you take with you? I mean, you've

1768
01:38:59,800 --> 01:39:02,479
Speaker 1: got friends there probably that you've known since you were

1769
01:39:02,960 --> 01:39:05,479
Speaker 1: old enough to speak. What are they? What are your

1770
01:39:05,479 --> 01:39:08,920
Speaker 1: best buds from from Lennox? Think about think about all this.

1771
01:39:10,479 --> 01:39:13,920
Speaker 1: There's they're super happy for me. They were the first

1772
01:39:13,920 --> 01:39:17,080
Speaker 1: one that played with a lot of my backyard buddies

1773
01:39:17,560 --> 01:39:19,840
Speaker 1: reached out to me, and I'm just fun to joke

1774
01:39:19,840 --> 01:39:21,439
Speaker 1: about and fun to talk about. How it just kind

1775
01:39:21,439 --> 01:39:24,240
Speaker 1: of start in the backyard and the trees with the

1776
01:39:24,240 --> 01:39:26,600
Speaker 1: touchdowns and Ali was the out of bounds so we

1777
01:39:27,040 --> 01:39:29,040
Speaker 1: all started there and to share that with them is

1778
01:39:29,280 --> 01:39:32,880
Speaker 1: pretty awesome. And then you know, we saw the transformation

1779
01:39:33,520 --> 01:39:36,160
Speaker 1: of your body composition. You know. I know you had

1780
01:39:36,200 --> 01:39:39,000
Speaker 1: some stuff on your social media pages like difference from

1781
01:39:39,040 --> 01:39:41,479
Speaker 1: first year of college to second year, you know, and

1782
01:39:41,840 --> 01:39:43,600
Speaker 1: I think over the course of your college career you

1783
01:39:43,600 --> 01:39:46,719
Speaker 1: added somewhere between ninety one hundred pounds to your frame.

1784
01:39:47,520 --> 01:39:52,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if people still that follow football recognize

1785
01:39:52,080 --> 01:39:55,599
Speaker 1: the commitment that it takes to put on good weight.

1786
01:39:55,920 --> 01:39:58,960
Speaker 1: Anybody can gain weight, but it's a much different task

1787
01:39:59,040 --> 01:40:02,920
Speaker 1: to put on good weight. So I mean, were you

1788
01:40:03,000 --> 01:40:06,519
Speaker 1: doing like the Rocky Balboa, you know, raw eggs in

1789
01:40:06,560 --> 01:40:08,880
Speaker 1: the morning and chicken and fish you all day? Like

1790
01:40:09,280 --> 01:40:11,559
Speaker 1: give us a sense as to what your regiment was

1791
01:40:12,040 --> 01:40:13,880
Speaker 1: to kind of fill out to what you are now.

1792
01:40:15,640 --> 01:40:16,960
Speaker 1: It was. There was a lot of meetings to my

1793
01:40:17,040 --> 01:40:18,920
Speaker 1: string coach of the string staff here. You and I

1794
01:40:18,920 --> 01:40:21,559
Speaker 1: had a really really good job of development players, and

1795
01:40:22,280 --> 01:40:24,679
Speaker 1: they gave us this thing called Ntrician Bible. I pretty

1796
01:40:24,760 --> 01:40:28,439
Speaker 1: much finished that front to back, so I took that

1797
01:40:28,439 --> 01:40:30,479
Speaker 1: out of consideration. And then there's just a lot of

1798
01:40:30,880 --> 01:40:33,200
Speaker 1: like four or five meals a day. I'm getting up

1799
01:40:33,200 --> 01:40:34,439
Speaker 1: in the middle of the night, like two in the

1800
01:40:34,479 --> 01:40:37,160
Speaker 1: morning to drink a protein shake and jelly and go

1801
01:40:37,160 --> 01:40:39,720
Speaker 1: back to begs. I would fluctuate like four or five

1802
01:40:39,720 --> 01:40:42,600
Speaker 1: pounds and I slept. I'd wake up, I'd lost five pounds,

1803
01:40:43,040 --> 01:40:45,040
Speaker 1: had a restart and getting it back, So just trying

1804
01:40:45,040 --> 01:40:47,360
Speaker 1: to slow that down. And then probably one of the

1805
01:40:47,360 --> 01:40:50,360
Speaker 1: grossest things I did at you and I is they

1806
01:40:50,360 --> 01:40:53,280
Speaker 1: had this. I had this drink called Jingle Juices with

1807
01:40:53,439 --> 01:40:56,519
Speaker 1: the string staff put together, and it was a really

1808
01:40:56,560 --> 01:40:59,640
Speaker 1: sugary high carb It was a bunch of protein. It

1809
01:40:59,680 --> 01:41:01,880
Speaker 1: was like three scoops of protein powders for scoops of

1810
01:41:01,920 --> 01:41:04,280
Speaker 1: gatorade and a blunder bottle and they make me drink

1811
01:41:04,320 --> 01:41:06,640
Speaker 1: it during practice. I drink two of them. Let's just

1812
01:41:06,720 --> 01:41:11,200
Speaker 1: say that those decide to make a second, uh second

1813
01:41:11,240 --> 01:41:15,760
Speaker 1: coming during practice. But uh it was. It was a

1814
01:41:15,840 --> 01:41:19,080
Speaker 1: very sugary It's like a it's like a syrup appearentis

1815
01:41:19,120 --> 01:41:20,639
Speaker 1: what it was. Yeah, I mean it's like bad enough.

1816
01:41:20,640 --> 01:41:22,479
Speaker 1: They got to bad enough. They want to make you

1817
01:41:22,560 --> 01:41:24,400
Speaker 1: choke that down. Now you want me to run around

1818
01:41:24,400 --> 01:41:26,840
Speaker 1: with that stuff slashing around in my stomach like no

1819
01:41:26,960 --> 01:41:30,560
Speaker 1: wonder it made a second appearance. My goodness, that's that

1820
01:41:30,960 --> 01:41:33,920
Speaker 1: is not an idea. What have you spoke? What do

1821
01:41:34,000 --> 01:41:36,200
Speaker 1: the Bills speak to you about so far? About what

1822
01:41:36,360 --> 01:41:39,920
Speaker 1: you know? Now that you're over three bills, you know,

1823
01:41:40,320 --> 01:41:42,280
Speaker 1: have they talked to you about an ideal playing weight?

1824
01:41:42,360 --> 01:41:44,120
Speaker 1: Have they talked to you about what your regiment, what

1825
01:41:44,160 --> 01:41:46,280
Speaker 1: they want you to do? Certainly they've probably given you

1826
01:41:46,320 --> 01:41:48,639
Speaker 1: the book on how they want you to train going forward.

1827
01:41:50,320 --> 01:41:52,880
Speaker 1: We've talked a little bit about it. I'm gonna gain

1828
01:41:53,040 --> 01:41:55,360
Speaker 1: some weight, for sure. It hasn't been set in stone

1829
01:41:55,360 --> 01:41:57,880
Speaker 1: exactly what it's gonna be yet, but I'm all come

1830
01:41:57,920 --> 01:41:59,280
Speaker 1: in and do whatever they ask me to do it.

1831
01:41:59,320 --> 01:42:02,600
Speaker 1: But it hasn't been set stuff. I know that you

1832
01:42:02,720 --> 01:42:06,680
Speaker 1: spent seven months with Joe Staley out West after you

1833
01:42:06,720 --> 01:42:12,640
Speaker 1: know your FCS season got canceled. Walk us through what

1834
01:42:12,880 --> 01:42:15,960
Speaker 1: that was like we you know, on a weekly basis,

1835
01:42:16,080 --> 01:42:21,200
Speaker 1: like schedule wise, what Joe was putting you through, because

1836
01:42:21,280 --> 01:42:23,360
Speaker 1: I mean we know him from his career in the league.

1837
01:42:23,400 --> 01:42:28,120
Speaker 1: I mean he was a no nonsense offensive tackle. The

1838
01:42:28,160 --> 01:42:31,639
Speaker 1: most valuable things you pulled from him, spencer, and then

1839
01:42:32,080 --> 01:42:36,200
Speaker 1: you know how rigorous his regiment was for you. I

1840
01:42:36,320 --> 01:42:38,559
Speaker 1: go out there with Joe was easy, the best thing

1841
01:42:38,560 --> 01:42:41,240
Speaker 1: that happened to me in my career. I didn't really

1842
01:42:41,240 --> 01:42:43,639
Speaker 1: know what to expect going out there, but it turned

1843
01:42:43,640 --> 01:42:46,360
Speaker 1: into medi with him two or three times in the

1844
01:42:46,400 --> 01:42:49,080
Speaker 1: field a week and then going to his house the

1845
01:42:49,080 --> 01:42:51,400
Speaker 1: other days. We didn't meet on the field, so there

1846
01:42:51,439 --> 01:42:54,120
Speaker 1: was a lot of learning technique and really slowing it down.

1847
01:42:54,160 --> 01:42:56,680
Speaker 1: If we had seven months I got there, ohus not.

1848
01:42:56,680 --> 01:42:58,800
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna play again until January, so we had

1849
01:42:58,800 --> 01:43:00,280
Speaker 1: plenty of time to a really slow it down and

1850
01:43:00,320 --> 01:43:03,280
Speaker 1: holding on technique, and he just really really helped me

1851
01:43:03,320 --> 01:43:04,760
Speaker 1: grow each and every day. And when we go to

1852
01:43:04,760 --> 01:43:07,200
Speaker 1: his house, it was learning the xs and those, and

1853
01:43:07,200 --> 01:43:09,640
Speaker 1: the language and schematics and things like that, because I

1854
01:43:09,640 --> 01:43:11,360
Speaker 1: mean I had a base understanding here at you and

1855
01:43:11,400 --> 01:43:13,240
Speaker 1: I and then he just kind of blew the door

1856
01:43:13,280 --> 01:43:15,600
Speaker 1: off the hinges with everything they taught me. And then

1857
01:43:15,680 --> 01:43:19,120
Speaker 1: some days we'd go there and he would say, we

1858
01:43:19,160 --> 01:43:21,040
Speaker 1: aren't gonna talk about football days. Want you to ask

1859
01:43:21,040 --> 01:43:23,800
Speaker 1: me questions, ask whatever you want to know. I've done

1860
01:43:23,800 --> 01:43:25,760
Speaker 1: it for a long time. Just whatever questions you have,

1861
01:43:25,840 --> 01:43:27,200
Speaker 1: just let me know. So I just sit there and

1862
01:43:27,200 --> 01:43:29,400
Speaker 1: we talk for two hours about what it's like. I

1863
01:43:29,479 --> 01:43:31,800
Speaker 1: kind of carry yourself routine and things like that. So

1864
01:43:31,800 --> 01:43:33,439
Speaker 1: it's just been a really good mentor to me. And

1865
01:43:34,040 --> 01:43:36,439
Speaker 1: we talked just about every week, so he's a really

1866
01:43:36,479 --> 01:43:39,160
Speaker 1: good backboard for me to bounce questions off of. And

1867
01:43:39,280 --> 01:43:41,960
Speaker 1: as you get closer to coming here, you're coming in

1868
01:43:42,000 --> 01:43:44,760
Speaker 1: here next weekend for rookie minicamp, right, I mean, what

1869
01:43:44,840 --> 01:43:49,280
Speaker 1: have you been told about that? I possibly haven't been

1870
01:43:49,280 --> 01:43:51,280
Speaker 1: told a whole lot. I'm not sure what to expect.

1871
01:43:52,040 --> 01:43:54,160
Speaker 1: It's gonna come in there and just get after it, and

1872
01:43:54,120 --> 01:43:56,320
Speaker 1: and I'm usually get at the bufffalow and being about

1873
01:43:56,320 --> 01:43:58,880
Speaker 1: to be around the guys and start getting ready. You

1874
01:43:59,000 --> 01:44:02,720
Speaker 1: gotta you gotta a fellow draft classmate, you know, in

1875
01:44:02,760 --> 01:44:05,040
Speaker 1: Tommy Doyle. I don't know if you guys have tried

1876
01:44:05,080 --> 01:44:07,840
Speaker 1: to reach out to one another yet, but it's got

1877
01:44:07,840 --> 01:44:10,120
Speaker 1: to be kind of nice to have a wingman, so

1878
01:44:10,200 --> 01:44:13,400
Speaker 1: to speak, who's lining up at the same position, you know,

1879
01:44:13,720 --> 01:44:16,760
Speaker 1: has no more knowledge of the bills and how they

1880
01:44:16,840 --> 01:44:19,559
Speaker 1: do things than you do, to kind of just kind

1881
01:44:19,600 --> 01:44:22,160
Speaker 1: of walk through it together, you know what I mean?

1882
01:44:22,240 --> 01:44:24,679
Speaker 1: How much of I don't know if peace of mind

1883
01:44:24,800 --> 01:44:26,599
Speaker 1: is the right word, but at least you go in

1884
01:44:27,439 --> 01:44:31,280
Speaker 1: with maybe your nerves a little bit eased to some

1885
01:44:31,439 --> 01:44:33,479
Speaker 1: extent because you know, you got a guy sitting right

1886
01:44:33,520 --> 01:44:35,519
Speaker 1: next to you who's probably got the same exact questions

1887
01:44:35,400 --> 01:44:38,400
Speaker 1: that you do. That's right. I mean, I've talked to

1888
01:44:38,479 --> 01:44:40,800
Speaker 1: him a little bit. Obviously, I'll talk to him more

1889
01:44:40,800 --> 01:44:42,840
Speaker 1: and so I get back up to Buffalo, but really

1890
01:44:42,880 --> 01:44:45,639
Speaker 1: anxious to get around him and learn from him, take

1891
01:44:45,680 --> 01:44:48,679
Speaker 1: things from his game and vice versa. And we're both

1892
01:44:48,720 --> 01:44:50,920
Speaker 1: six eight, so maybe we'll go and hustle some people

1893
01:44:50,880 --> 01:44:55,000
Speaker 1: out the internal basketball court or stuff like that. It's

1894
01:44:55,000 --> 01:44:57,160
Speaker 1: gonna be it's gonna be fun to get around each

1895
01:44:57,160 --> 01:44:59,479
Speaker 1: other and practice and go through the same things as

1896
01:44:59,479 --> 01:45:02,120
Speaker 1: coming in as rookies. So I'm looking forward to it

1897
01:45:02,120 --> 01:45:04,360
Speaker 1: for sure. And take and taking that a step further.

1898
01:45:05,200 --> 01:45:07,160
Speaker 1: You know, two other members of your draft class or

1899
01:45:07,200 --> 01:45:09,519
Speaker 1: guys you're probably gonna be getting awful lot of snaps against,

1900
01:45:09,640 --> 01:45:12,400
Speaker 1: especially in this rookie mini camp, you know, and Rousseau

1901
01:45:12,439 --> 01:45:17,000
Speaker 1: and Basham. Just the thought of going against quality competition,

1902
01:45:17,120 --> 01:45:21,559
Speaker 1: even in a rookie mini camp setting. Yeah, I'm I'm

1903
01:45:21,600 --> 01:45:24,559
Speaker 1: super looking forward to it. Uh. Carlos was down at

1904
01:45:24,600 --> 01:45:26,880
Speaker 1: the at the Seabole. I don't remember going against them though,

1905
01:45:26,920 --> 01:45:28,720
Speaker 1: But I'm he was down there and I'm just I'm

1906
01:45:28,760 --> 01:45:30,760
Speaker 1: just really anxious to get get around those guys and

1907
01:45:31,439 --> 01:45:33,479
Speaker 1: growth those guys too. Is there rookies and we don't

1908
01:45:33,479 --> 01:45:35,800
Speaker 1: know what it's like. So I'm gonna experience with them

1909
01:45:35,840 --> 01:45:38,080
Speaker 1: and go against them in practice and get better together

1910
01:45:38,080 --> 01:45:40,640
Speaker 1: its and be a good time. So how long of

1911
01:45:40,720 --> 01:45:43,680
Speaker 1: a trek is it from Lennox to What city do

1912
01:45:43,720 --> 01:45:45,800
Speaker 1: you fly out of? When you come to Buffalo? What

1913
01:45:45,800 --> 01:45:49,120
Speaker 1: do you do? How's that look of the morning? That's

1914
01:45:49,120 --> 01:45:51,200
Speaker 1: an hour and a half from de Mos hour and

1915
01:45:51,200 --> 01:45:53,880
Speaker 1: a half of my hometown, and there's no direct flights,

1916
01:45:53,880 --> 01:45:58,280
Speaker 1: so I always get connecting flights where I go through Chicago, right, Yeah?

1917
01:45:58,600 --> 01:46:00,600
Speaker 1: All right? And your folks are are they what have

1918
01:46:00,680 --> 01:46:02,240
Speaker 1: your folks told you about it? Are they gonna be

1919
01:46:02,280 --> 01:46:04,080
Speaker 1: at every home game some of the away games? Or

1920
01:46:04,200 --> 01:46:06,960
Speaker 1: they are? Are they never miss a game? Kind of folks?

1921
01:46:08,240 --> 01:46:10,240
Speaker 1: My mom is mom has never missed a game. My

1922
01:46:10,320 --> 01:46:12,040
Speaker 1: dad goes just about all but being involved in a

1923
01:46:12,040 --> 01:46:14,679
Speaker 1: farm and it's kind of hard, right Yeah, get away

1924
01:46:14,720 --> 01:46:17,200
Speaker 1: for for multiple days and hopefully everything goes over smooth.

1925
01:46:17,240 --> 01:46:19,400
Speaker 1: My mom hasn't missed a game. There's already been talks

1926
01:46:19,400 --> 01:46:21,479
Speaker 1: about a bus trip. I'm like, that's that's not three

1927
01:46:21,479 --> 01:46:25,360
Speaker 1: and a half hours Buffalo. Yeah, this isn't a trip

1928
01:46:25,400 --> 01:46:28,679
Speaker 1: to water That's not a trip to Waterloo. I know that. Yeah,

1929
01:46:29,439 --> 01:46:31,400
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a long trip out down to Miami.

1930
01:46:31,600 --> 01:46:34,240
Speaker 1: The last one I've got for you, Spencer. We we

1931
01:46:34,320 --> 01:46:37,800
Speaker 1: heard through the grapevine that you went out and played

1932
01:46:37,800 --> 01:46:41,519
Speaker 1: a little golf on Draft Day? Is it true you

1933
01:46:41,520 --> 01:46:43,120
Speaker 1: you had a heck of a round, You had like

1934
01:46:43,120 --> 01:46:46,479
Speaker 1: a one over round. Yeah. I don't know what happened

1935
01:46:46,520 --> 01:46:50,720
Speaker 1: that day. Um, yeah, I guess there's only nine holes though,

1936
01:46:50,760 --> 01:46:53,320
Speaker 1: So keep back in situation one to the small golf. Yeah, well,

1937
01:46:53,320 --> 01:46:54,960
Speaker 1: the guy to my left hits it. My guy on

1938
01:46:55,040 --> 01:46:56,759
Speaker 1: my left hits him a lot, so he'd be interested

1939
01:46:56,800 --> 01:46:58,360
Speaker 1: to know what your golf game looks like. All I

1940
01:46:58,400 --> 01:47:00,040
Speaker 1: want to know is what was the name of the

1941
01:47:00,080 --> 01:47:05,559
Speaker 1: course that you played? Lennox Municipal Golf Course. I love it.

1942
01:47:05,720 --> 01:47:09,200
Speaker 1: That's awesome. And and a man your size, your clubs

1943
01:47:09,200 --> 01:47:11,960
Speaker 1: have got to be gigantic. But how how far do

1944
01:47:12,000 --> 01:47:14,080
Speaker 1: you hit it off the tea? I gotta believe you're

1945
01:47:14,080 --> 01:47:18,000
Speaker 1: like three fifty or something, right, it's it's right around three.

1946
01:47:18,320 --> 01:47:20,160
Speaker 1: That's that's for sure. It kind depends. I always use

1947
01:47:20,240 --> 01:47:22,760
Speaker 1: my dad's clubs actually the pends. My club is still

1948
01:47:22,760 --> 01:47:25,040
Speaker 1: in California though. They're Blair plus two, so my dad's

1949
01:47:25,040 --> 01:47:27,280
Speaker 1: are really short. And I was just teeing off with

1950
01:47:27,320 --> 01:47:32,000
Speaker 1: like a three wood. So that's awesome. Well, we can't

1951
01:47:32,040 --> 01:47:34,679
Speaker 1: wait to get you up here. Uh, it's great talking

1952
01:47:34,720 --> 01:47:37,479
Speaker 1: to you. And uh, yeah, Brownie was at one. Make

1953
01:47:37,479 --> 01:47:39,040
Speaker 1: sure I got because I was gonna forget to ask

1954
01:47:39,040 --> 01:47:41,719
Speaker 1: you about your golf game. How give me an idea

1955
01:47:41,880 --> 01:47:44,960
Speaker 1: just the total, the total process. And you had a

1956
01:47:45,040 --> 01:47:48,880
Speaker 1: really from what I understand, a really good experience at

1957
01:47:48,960 --> 01:47:51,080
Speaker 1: University of Northern Iowa. You went up there and you

1958
01:47:51,439 --> 01:47:55,160
Speaker 1: decided not to take the transfer portal um uh and

1959
01:47:55,320 --> 01:47:58,519
Speaker 1: come and go ahead and just opt out when they

1960
01:47:58,560 --> 01:48:00,799
Speaker 1: well they didn't even play, canceled the season. They canceled

1961
01:48:00,800 --> 01:48:03,320
Speaker 1: the season. Give us a little insight as to how

1962
01:48:03,320 --> 01:48:05,360
Speaker 1: that news was broken to you. What the what the

1963
01:48:05,840 --> 01:48:07,559
Speaker 1: you know, what the mood was like for you and

1964
01:48:07,600 --> 01:48:10,800
Speaker 1: your teammates. Says because this is the last couple of years,

1965
01:48:10,920 --> 01:48:13,400
Speaker 1: last couple of football seasons have been tragic for a

1966
01:48:13,400 --> 01:48:17,679
Speaker 1: lot of kids. College guys, their whole you know, sports

1967
01:48:17,720 --> 01:48:19,559
Speaker 1: world that they were focused on kind of got turned

1968
01:48:19,640 --> 01:48:22,080
Speaker 1: upside down. Give us a little start to finish synopsis

1969
01:48:22,120 --> 01:48:24,880
Speaker 1: of when you found out you were gonna, you know,

1970
01:48:24,920 --> 01:48:26,639
Speaker 1: lose a whole season, and then how you got out

1971
01:48:26,680 --> 01:48:30,880
Speaker 1: to California and now you got drafted. Okay, Also can't

1972
01:48:30,920 --> 01:48:33,320
Speaker 1: start in the summer as when the FCS teams kind

1973
01:48:33,320 --> 01:48:36,800
Speaker 1: of started falling off, is a couple of days go by,

1974
01:48:36,920 --> 01:48:38,599
Speaker 1: another one to drop, so like the thal was kind

1975
01:48:38,600 --> 01:48:40,880
Speaker 1: of in your head a little bit, but none of

1976
01:48:40,880 --> 01:48:42,599
Speaker 1: our team, none of our schools out of our conference

1977
01:48:42,600 --> 01:48:44,040
Speaker 1: had dropped yet. It was kind of went at the

1978
01:48:44,040 --> 01:48:45,720
Speaker 1: same day attitude, you're a for the season, you're here

1979
01:48:45,720 --> 01:48:48,639
Speaker 1: for this season. And then it was like the first

1980
01:48:48,720 --> 01:48:52,040
Speaker 1: day of camp the campus was to start. Our first

1981
01:48:52,080 --> 01:48:55,720
Speaker 1: meeting was in the basketball arena in the ad and

1982
01:48:55,760 --> 01:48:57,280
Speaker 1: the president of the school are there and they kind

1983
01:48:57,320 --> 01:48:59,560
Speaker 1: of just broke the news to us, and obviously the

1984
01:48:59,680 --> 01:49:03,080
Speaker 1: wind sucked out the building. But going through the summer

1985
01:49:03,120 --> 01:49:05,200
Speaker 1: and realizing that could have a possibility, I kind of

1986
01:49:05,200 --> 01:49:06,880
Speaker 1: have my mind made up what I was gonna do.

1987
01:49:08,760 --> 01:49:10,360
Speaker 1: That was super lucky to go out there in California

1988
01:49:10,400 --> 01:49:11,800
Speaker 1: and channels Joe, and I think it was the best

1989
01:49:11,840 --> 01:49:15,000
Speaker 1: decision for me. Obviously I didn't transfer, that was wasn't

1990
01:49:15,040 --> 01:49:16,920
Speaker 1: in the cards for me. But going out there with

1991
01:49:17,040 --> 01:49:19,240
Speaker 1: Joe and learning from him, he really developed my game.

1992
01:49:19,280 --> 01:49:21,040
Speaker 1: And then going to the Senior Bowl was a big

1993
01:49:21,080 --> 01:49:23,599
Speaker 1: thing for me, and going out there for the week

1994
01:49:23,680 --> 01:49:26,880
Speaker 1: and showing out out and learning and going against that competition,

1995
01:49:26,920 --> 01:49:30,640
Speaker 1: and then just progressing into the the Pro day and

1996
01:49:30,720 --> 01:49:32,720
Speaker 1: doing well doing things I had to do, and then

1997
01:49:32,760 --> 01:49:35,599
Speaker 1: just getting drafted by Buffalo and super grateful for that

1998
01:49:35,640 --> 01:49:38,639
Speaker 1: and an anciency out there. Yeah yeah, Well, Spencer, listen,

1999
01:49:38,680 --> 01:49:40,720
Speaker 1: we appreciate the time you've given to us. We know

2000
01:49:40,760 --> 01:49:43,080
Speaker 1: you've done about a dozen of these already, so thanks

2001
01:49:43,080 --> 01:49:45,120
Speaker 1: for spending some time with us. We look forward to

2002
01:49:45,120 --> 01:49:47,000
Speaker 1: seeing you up here and getting you out on the field.

2003
01:49:47,240 --> 01:49:50,200
Speaker 1: Good luck man, Thank you appreciate it, Thanks for having

2004
01:49:50,240 --> 01:49:53,120
Speaker 1: on all right, Spencer round Bill's third round draft choice

2005
01:49:53,560 --> 01:49:58,400
Speaker 1: at in Northern Iowa and I forgot that's Kurt Warner School,

2006
01:49:59,240 --> 01:50:01,479
Speaker 1: Northern Ioway. I got recruited by Northern Ires, did you

2007
01:50:01,760 --> 01:50:05,200
Speaker 1: I did? Dodge City Community College got recruited by you

2008
01:50:05,240 --> 01:50:07,680
Speaker 1: and I and I they came down and picked me

2009
01:50:07,800 --> 01:50:11,880
Speaker 1: up and flew me back in a little private you know,

2010
01:50:11,920 --> 01:50:17,360
Speaker 1: tole Yeah, and the head coach float flew it came

2011
01:50:17,400 --> 01:50:19,599
Speaker 1: down got me. We flew up to university. Nor they

2012
01:50:19,600 --> 01:50:21,200
Speaker 1: play in the Unidome, or at least they did that.

2013
01:50:21,240 --> 01:50:23,080
Speaker 1: I should have asked Spencer. I think they do still

2014
01:50:23,120 --> 01:50:26,080
Speaker 1: they play in the Unidome. Um was one of the

2015
01:50:26,080 --> 01:50:33,200
Speaker 1: most memorable recruiting trips of my youth because when I

2016
01:50:33,240 --> 01:50:35,400
Speaker 1: got up there, of course they give you a host,

2017
01:50:35,439 --> 01:50:37,360
Speaker 1: you know, another player, and he was a linebacker and stuff,

2018
01:50:37,360 --> 01:50:38,720
Speaker 1: and we were we hit it off. He's a great

2019
01:50:38,800 --> 01:50:41,320
Speaker 1: dude and stuff. And he goes and I land. They go, hey,

2020
01:50:41,360 --> 01:50:44,360
Speaker 1: by the way, you know you you like rock and

2021
01:50:44,479 --> 01:50:46,040
Speaker 1: roll and all that. And I was like, yeah, sure,

2022
01:50:46,280 --> 01:50:48,760
Speaker 1: he's okay. Perfect because we got front row seats to

2023
01:50:48,840 --> 01:50:51,880
Speaker 1: the Stones tonight Undome. I was like, well, I was like,

2024
01:50:52,000 --> 01:50:56,000
Speaker 1: excuse me, what I'd be like? Yeah, Oh, Mike, recruiting

2025
01:50:56,000 --> 01:50:58,400
Speaker 1: trip to the University of Northern how blessed you are?

2026
01:50:58,560 --> 01:51:02,360
Speaker 1: That is ridiculous? Are you kidding? They spent two and

2027
01:51:02,360 --> 01:51:04,920
Speaker 1: a half hours on the on the linebackers shoulders about

2028
01:51:05,000 --> 01:51:07,639
Speaker 1: in spinning distance of Mick Jagger. He could have spent

2029
01:51:07,680 --> 01:51:10,280
Speaker 1: a loogie right in the middle of my forehead. Gosh,

2030
01:51:10,439 --> 01:51:12,920
Speaker 1: the entire it was the it was the steel wheels,

2031
01:51:12,960 --> 01:51:16,519
Speaker 1: Oh my god. And so listen to that. So I am,

2032
01:51:17,280 --> 01:51:22,800
Speaker 1: I'm in the front row of a Stones concert, just

2033
01:51:22,800 --> 01:51:27,160
Speaker 1: just like you. And they didn't get you. No, they didn't.

2034
01:51:27,160 --> 01:51:30,840
Speaker 1: They still didn't get you. So wait, private flight for

2035
01:51:30,920 --> 01:51:34,080
Speaker 1: a community college kid. They fly you up to what

2036
01:51:34,280 --> 01:51:38,400
Speaker 1: is that Fargo? Where are they? Waterloo? Waterloo? Um, they

2037
01:51:38,439 --> 01:51:41,639
Speaker 1: fly up to Waterloo, your front row with the Stones.

2038
01:51:42,600 --> 01:51:46,759
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. So listen to this. So I'm watching.

2039
01:51:47,320 --> 01:51:49,320
Speaker 1: Guys are like, what else they gotta do. I'm like

2040
01:51:49,439 --> 01:51:51,840
Speaker 1: eight feet from Mick Jagger for two and a half

2041
01:51:51,880 --> 01:51:53,960
Speaker 1: three hours, right, and he's like the whole thing, And

2042
01:51:54,000 --> 01:51:56,519
Speaker 1: it was awesome, you know, I mean, come on, Stones.

2043
01:51:57,080 --> 01:52:01,200
Speaker 1: It was nineteen eighty two, yeah, so you can imagine

2044
01:52:01,840 --> 01:52:06,000
Speaker 1: it was a different world anyway. So then years and

2045
01:52:06,080 --> 01:52:11,400
Speaker 1: years later, decades later, I'm I'm at the Rock and

2046
01:52:11,479 --> 01:52:15,400
Speaker 1: Roll Hall of Fame in Cleveland. Yeah, the exact outfit

2047
01:52:15,560 --> 01:52:17,240
Speaker 1: he wore for the two and a half hours in

2048
01:52:17,280 --> 01:52:20,200
Speaker 1: that concert was in the photo. I go ahead, No,

2049
01:52:20,360 --> 01:52:22,320
Speaker 1: it was the whole outfit was in the whole the

2050
01:52:22,360 --> 01:52:24,320
Speaker 1: outfit was on display. I was like, oh my gosh,

2051
01:52:24,360 --> 01:52:26,040
Speaker 1: I remember that. He had thought you were gonna tell

2052
01:52:26,080 --> 01:52:28,040
Speaker 1: me that there was a photo from that show and

2053
01:52:28,080 --> 01:52:30,160
Speaker 1: I'm a wall and you're in the photo. No, that's

2054
01:52:30,200 --> 01:52:31,599
Speaker 1: what I thought. That's where I thought you were going

2055
01:52:31,800 --> 01:52:33,800
Speaker 1: like that. Would that have been even better? But when

2056
01:52:33,840 --> 01:52:35,240
Speaker 1: when I saw it, they go, this is this. This

2057
01:52:35,320 --> 01:52:38,200
Speaker 1: is the Mick Jaggers stage outfit for the steel Wheels Coud.

2058
01:52:38,240 --> 01:52:40,479
Speaker 1: I was like, I remember that as you know, as

2059
01:52:40,520 --> 01:52:42,280
Speaker 1: one of the outfits he wars. Wow, it was a

2060
01:52:42,680 --> 01:52:46,080
Speaker 1: It was a New York Jet number twelve. Jersey Steve.

2061
01:52:46,200 --> 01:52:49,360
Speaker 1: That is a story man. Yeah, I still can't imagine

2062
01:52:50,560 --> 01:52:53,200
Speaker 1: that coach is probably like, what the hell do we

2063
01:52:53,280 --> 01:52:54,960
Speaker 1: have to do to get that guy? Tasker. I can't

2064
01:52:55,000 --> 01:52:56,840
Speaker 1: believe we didn't get that kid they want. And it

2065
01:52:56,880 --> 01:52:58,840
Speaker 1: was interesting too because I was a wide out, you know,

2066
01:52:59,080 --> 01:53:02,720
Speaker 1: wide receiver kicker turner University of Northern i Will wanted

2067
01:53:02,760 --> 01:53:04,320
Speaker 1: to bring me in and they wanted me to play

2068
01:53:04,439 --> 01:53:07,400
Speaker 1: running back. Oh wow, me back because I was gaining weight.

2069
01:53:07,520 --> 01:53:09,320
Speaker 1: I'd put on some you know, I'd started to put

2070
01:53:09,320 --> 01:53:12,080
Speaker 1: weight on like I needed to, and and uh, they

2071
01:53:12,080 --> 01:53:13,760
Speaker 1: wanted the ball in my hands that way, and I

2072
01:53:13,800 --> 01:53:17,640
Speaker 1: was like, and I just then I got called by Northwestern,

2073
01:53:17,720 --> 01:53:19,760
Speaker 1: which was you know, Division one, big ten. I was like,

2074
01:53:19,880 --> 01:53:22,240
Speaker 1: you know, what are you gonna do? Great education? Yeah? Like,

2075
01:53:22,280 --> 01:53:23,519
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? I had? I had to

2076
01:53:23,520 --> 01:53:26,000
Speaker 1: take that stuff to compete with. Yeah, but man, that's

2077
01:53:26,000 --> 01:53:28,640
Speaker 1: a heck of a cell job. That's pretty good. They

2078
01:53:28,640 --> 01:53:33,920
Speaker 1: were in the running, they were they were on the

2079
01:53:33,920 --> 01:53:36,240
Speaker 1: short was a heck of a cell jo. They were

2080
01:53:36,360 --> 01:53:39,200
Speaker 1: on the shot. Yes, they were talking about pulling out

2081
01:53:39,240 --> 01:53:42,400
Speaker 1: all the stops. Northern Iowa. You gotta share that story

2082
01:53:42,400 --> 01:53:44,880
Speaker 1: with Spencer when you see him, because that is that

2083
01:53:45,080 --> 01:53:47,280
Speaker 1: is a beute. I can tell you right now. Spencer

2084
01:53:47,280 --> 01:53:50,000
Speaker 1: Brown didn't get a Rolling Stones concert. Probably not. I'll

2085
01:53:50,040 --> 01:53:56,240
Speaker 1: bet he didn't. Probably bet. Oh, man, that's a good one. Steve.

2086
01:53:57,040 --> 01:54:01,719
Speaker 1: I was going to talk about Spencer's impressive workout because yeah,

2087
01:54:01,720 --> 01:54:06,599
Speaker 1: six eight and the thing about it, the chrone drill

2088
01:54:06,680 --> 01:54:10,640
Speaker 1: he ran was elite, sub seven seconds. That's elite. Like

2089
01:54:10,760 --> 01:54:13,479
Speaker 1: any position, there are dbs that get good marks when

2090
01:54:13,520 --> 01:54:15,800
Speaker 1: they run sub seven second three cones. This is a

2091
01:54:15,880 --> 01:54:18,760
Speaker 1: six eight, three hundred eleven pound man running a sub

2092
01:54:18,800 --> 01:54:22,960
Speaker 1: seven second three second cone four point four second short shuttle.

2093
01:54:23,600 --> 01:54:26,800
Speaker 1: If you're sub four, you're elite, and they look for

2094
01:54:26,880 --> 01:54:30,120
Speaker 1: dbs to be sub four seconds. He's four four. Change

2095
01:54:30,120 --> 01:54:35,880
Speaker 1: a direction for him. That's really good. Um, Benny press

2096
01:54:36,520 --> 01:54:39,480
Speaker 1: twenty nine reps with thirty five inch arms. Now that

2097
01:54:39,640 --> 01:54:41,880
Speaker 1: people are like, well, what does that mean? The longer

2098
01:54:41,920 --> 01:54:44,560
Speaker 1: your arms are, the harder it is to do the

2099
01:54:44,600 --> 01:54:48,080
Speaker 1: reps once you get up to twenty twenty nine reps.

2100
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Speaker 1: I mean here he is bench in five hundred, which

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Speaker 1: is max, which is scaring me to death after the

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Speaker 1: John Feliciano torn peck thing the day before training camp

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01:54:56,480 --> 01:54:58,400
Speaker 1: last year. But you got it. He gets it up.

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01:54:58,720 --> 01:55:02,640
Speaker 1: It's it's funny because a little bit of a little

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01:55:02,680 --> 01:55:04,640
Speaker 1: bit of a butt raise there he gets up off

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01:55:04,640 --> 01:55:06,600
Speaker 1: the bench. Counts though. Let me tell you something. That

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01:55:06,720 --> 01:55:09,600
Speaker 1: spot guy, I don't know if I'm counting there. That's

2108
01:55:09,600 --> 01:55:12,640
Speaker 1: just it. You gotta have somebody to spot you on that.

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01:55:13,000 --> 01:55:14,880
Speaker 1: You need a bigger guy. Yeah, it's not like you

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01:55:15,120 --> 01:55:16,560
Speaker 1: need a bigger guy than that. He's gonna get a

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01:55:16,560 --> 01:55:20,240
Speaker 1: different spotter. Yeah. It's not your girlfriend spotting you. Yeah right,

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01:55:20,320 --> 01:55:22,320
Speaker 1: I mean it's you need a guy with some meat

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01:55:22,360 --> 01:55:25,320
Speaker 1: on his you got it, and some some backup. That

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01:55:25,440 --> 01:55:27,560
Speaker 1: five hundred pounds is a you gotta put a guy

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01:55:27,560 --> 01:55:31,280
Speaker 1: on either side, take a bunch, bunch of weight. That's

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01:55:31,320 --> 01:55:34,280
Speaker 1: a bunch of weight. Oh my goodness, off your chest

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01:55:34,320 --> 01:55:39,400
Speaker 1: five hundred pounds A yeah, I'll bet. I'll bet Coach

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01:55:39,440 --> 01:55:41,520
Speaker 1: Siano and the strength and conditioning a part. Yeah, don't

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01:55:41,520 --> 01:55:44,160
Speaker 1: do that either. Yeah, let's let we got a different program. Yeah,

2120
01:55:44,240 --> 01:55:47,080
Speaker 1: let's no doubt. Let's lay off. Johniano will tell you too,

2121
01:55:47,160 --> 01:55:51,000
Speaker 1: you can't do that. But and but that that tells you.

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01:55:51,040 --> 01:55:53,520
Speaker 1: I mean the kids running an elite three cone drill

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01:55:53,880 --> 01:55:57,080
Speaker 1: and a short shuttle, and he's an athlete, man, and

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01:55:57,120 --> 01:56:02,839
Speaker 1: he's benching five hundred pounds. That's Those are some traits.

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01:56:04,120 --> 01:56:06,240
Speaker 1: Whether he turns into the Bills starting right tackle any

2126
01:56:06,240 --> 01:56:08,360
Speaker 1: point in the future, would I'll tell you this, that

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01:56:08,400 --> 01:56:10,120
Speaker 1: guy right there is going to be in the NFL

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01:56:10,160 --> 01:56:13,800
Speaker 1: for a long long time. Yea, even as even if

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01:56:13,800 --> 01:56:18,120
Speaker 1: he's a career backup, you don't Those guys just don't

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01:56:18,120 --> 01:56:20,440
Speaker 1: go away. They just hang in there. And I've looked

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01:56:20,440 --> 01:56:23,480
Speaker 1: at more than one scattering report on him, and what

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01:56:23,680 --> 01:56:29,800
Speaker 1: keeps coming up in the descriptions smooth athlete, length and

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01:56:29,920 --> 01:56:32,960
Speaker 1: competitive toughness that keeps you in the league a long time.

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01:56:33,120 --> 01:56:35,680
Speaker 1: That's a that's better than the third especially when you're

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01:56:35,720 --> 01:56:37,640
Speaker 1: six eight and three less better than a third round

2136
01:56:37,640 --> 01:56:39,760
Speaker 1: pick right there at those traits. And I think he's

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01:56:39,760 --> 01:56:42,520
Speaker 1: one of four guys that the Bills rafted who were

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01:56:42,560 --> 01:56:46,080
Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl. They put stock in that, especially

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01:56:46,080 --> 01:56:48,440
Speaker 1: with small school guys. Like small school guys, is the

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01:56:48,440 --> 01:56:51,080
Speaker 1: first time they get to go against you know, top

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01:56:51,120 --> 01:56:57,440
Speaker 1: flight competitive you know, a top flight competition. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: when they hold their own against it and actually show

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01:57:00,080 --> 01:57:03,600
Speaker 1: out doing it, that really goes a long way with

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01:57:03,640 --> 01:57:06,880
Speaker 1: a lot of coaches. And it should it should, you know,

2145
01:57:06,880 --> 01:57:10,360
Speaker 1: because there's always that stigma you played against, you know,

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01:57:11,280 --> 01:57:12,760
Speaker 1: you know, I always say the joke he was playing

2147
01:57:12,760 --> 01:57:16,960
Speaker 1: against engineering students and dental students and not real football players. Well,

2148
01:57:17,000 --> 01:57:19,600
Speaker 1: that's not the case at the Senior Bowl. And would

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01:57:19,760 --> 01:57:21,640
Speaker 1: I would venture to guess that the Bills and several

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01:57:21,640 --> 01:57:28,240
Speaker 1: other teams use that showcase as validation and confirmation of

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01:57:28,280 --> 01:57:30,520
Speaker 1: what they think about that player in terms of whether

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01:57:30,520 --> 01:57:33,760
Speaker 1: they can handle the NFL game. If they hadn't already,

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01:57:36,520 --> 01:57:39,160
Speaker 1: if they hadn't already you know, seen the guy or

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01:57:39,480 --> 01:57:41,360
Speaker 1: you know, obviously they've watched film on him and stuff,

2155
01:57:41,360 --> 01:57:43,200
Speaker 1: but seeing the guy up close and personal and then

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01:57:43,240 --> 01:57:45,960
Speaker 1: see him compete against other guys who have some skills,

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01:57:46,680 --> 01:57:48,120
Speaker 1: you know, getting in the same room with him, on

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01:57:48,160 --> 01:57:50,560
Speaker 1: the same field with him, watching them work and work hard.

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01:57:51,960 --> 01:57:55,920
Speaker 1: Coaches get a lot of information from that. Seeing them

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01:57:55,960 --> 01:57:58,600
Speaker 1: on the field up close in a practice setting tells

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Speaker 1: coaches all they need to know basically in a lot

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01:58:01,240 --> 01:58:05,040
Speaker 1: of ways, and certainly the Senior Bowl is a great

2163
01:58:05,120 --> 01:58:08,600
Speaker 1: environment for that. Yeah, we have to take a break.

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Speaker 1: When we come back. More of your questions from the

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Speaker 1: obl fan Friday mailbag, and if we have time, a

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Speaker 1: little NFL True False coming your way before we're done

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Speaker 1: here On a Friday on One Bill's Live, presented by

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Speaker 1: Colloid to Health. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you

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Speaker 1: time to open up the obl Fan Friday mailbag. Scott asks,

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Speaker 1: why haven't been and company signed any undrafted rookie free agents?

2172
01:58:44,800 --> 01:58:47,200
Speaker 1: Is there a strategy behind it that you know of?

2173
01:58:47,320 --> 01:58:50,640
Speaker 1: We had branded on the other day and those players

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01:58:50,680 --> 01:58:54,080
Speaker 1: still have to come in take physicals and provided they

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01:58:54,120 --> 01:58:58,600
Speaker 1: pass their physicals, they will be signed, and I think

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01:58:58,640 --> 01:59:01,520
Speaker 1: what's going to happen as they'll be signed right before

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01:59:01,960 --> 01:59:04,160
Speaker 1: Rookie Mini Caamp starts and then they'll be in. But

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Speaker 1: I do know, because Brandon did say this, they're gonna

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Speaker 1: have the roster around eighty four to eighty seven players.

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01:59:10,160 --> 01:59:12,919
Speaker 1: They're not going to max it out because it's unclear

2181
01:59:13,040 --> 01:59:16,440
Speaker 1: right now as to whether or not they have to

2182
01:59:16,520 --> 01:59:19,360
Speaker 1: keep the roster lower than that. They have to release

2183
01:59:19,400 --> 01:59:22,080
Speaker 1: some players last year when the league changed the rules

2184
01:59:22,720 --> 01:59:25,680
Speaker 1: on how many they could carry at a certain period

2185
01:59:25,720 --> 01:59:29,760
Speaker 1: of time in the calendar year, and it compromised things

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01:59:29,800 --> 01:59:32,440
Speaker 1: for them. And New England is taking the approach of

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01:59:32,520 --> 01:59:36,600
Speaker 1: not really signing any undrafted's right away and they'll keep

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01:59:36,600 --> 01:59:38,480
Speaker 1: the roster a little bit smaller. Now. I don't know

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Speaker 1: how you conduct a rookie Mini caamp without as many

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01:59:41,240 --> 01:59:44,200
Speaker 1: players as possible they can participate, because vets camp participate

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01:59:44,240 --> 01:59:46,280
Speaker 1: in rookie minicamp. So you're gonna have a bunch of

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Speaker 1: guys here on a tryout basis, and then your undrafted

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01:59:49,440 --> 01:59:52,040
Speaker 1: rookies and your draft choices. Well, the rookie minicamp is

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01:59:52,120 --> 01:59:54,840
Speaker 1: mostly about acclamation anyway. It's not like you're going to

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01:59:54,880 --> 01:59:56,320
Speaker 1: get a lot of fields. It's not a lot of

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01:59:56,320 --> 01:59:58,320
Speaker 1: field stuff. And most of the field stuff is going

2197
01:59:58,360 --> 02:00:01,960
Speaker 1: to be learning and teaching um at a walk through

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02:00:02,040 --> 02:00:04,840
Speaker 1: pace anyway. And you know a lot of the time

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Speaker 1: they're going to have be spent in classrooms and in

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Speaker 1: meeting rooms as well as getting familiar with the building

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Speaker 1: and where you're supposed to go, where you're supposed to be,

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Speaker 1: what you're supposed to do. You know what part of

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02:00:14,200 --> 02:00:15,760
Speaker 1: the buildings you're going to spend your most of your

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02:00:15,800 --> 02:00:18,920
Speaker 1: time in. It's it's it really is like an orientation.

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Speaker 1: So and by that and also what you also said

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Speaker 1: about the roster size, you can bet that whether we

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Speaker 1: hear about it or not, and we probably will hear

2208
02:00:29,040 --> 02:00:30,840
Speaker 1: about some of it or if not all of it,

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Speaker 1: they're going to be bringing guys in all the time,

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Speaker 1: working them out, testing guys, looking at them to see

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Speaker 1: if they want to sign them for training camp. That's

2212
02:00:40,920 --> 02:00:42,840
Speaker 1: that's going to be an ongoing process. They will do

2213
02:00:42,880 --> 02:00:46,080
Speaker 1: that even up until even if they have ninety guys,

2214
02:00:46,080 --> 02:00:49,400
Speaker 1: if the limits ninety guys or even eighty five guys,

2215
02:00:50,680 --> 02:00:52,760
Speaker 1: even if they have a full roster, they'll be bringing

2216
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Speaker 1: guys in to work out and look at because as

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Speaker 1: soon as they cut somebody, they'll have somebody on the

2218
02:00:56,840 --> 02:00:59,600
Speaker 1: list they want to sign. That. That's just an ongoing

2219
02:00:59,640 --> 02:01:02,760
Speaker 1: conversation at the scouting department, in the pro personnel department

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02:01:02,760 --> 02:01:05,720
Speaker 1: are going to have constantly, along with Brandon Bean, if

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Speaker 1: they've got slots on their roster, they will have a

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Speaker 1: lot of if not, if not a handful, a lot

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Speaker 1: of candidates ready to fill those spots and ready to

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Speaker 1: be something Brandon said this week on our show, We're

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Speaker 1: still shopping, Yeah, we're still looking. They're going to continue

2226
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Speaker 1: to tink her with the roster from now right up

2227
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Speaker 1: until training camp and then after that because you're always

2228
02:01:27,160 --> 02:01:29,960
Speaker 1: making roster moves during training camp and you to due

2229
02:01:29,960 --> 02:01:32,280
Speaker 1: to injury or the bottom of that working out or

2230
02:01:32,440 --> 02:01:35,080
Speaker 1: somebody doesn't pass a conditioning test. The bottom of the

2231
02:01:35,160 --> 02:01:39,640
Speaker 1: roster is always being churned by guys around the league.

2232
02:01:39,800 --> 02:01:42,000
Speaker 1: Teams around the league, they all all do it with

2233
02:01:42,040 --> 02:01:46,520
Speaker 1: the bottom handful of players on their roster between forty

2234
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Speaker 1: eight or forty nine through fifty three or fifty through

2235
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Speaker 1: fifty three. Certainly the bottom four guys are on very

2236
02:01:57,280 --> 02:02:01,120
Speaker 1: short leashes. Yeah, and they're they're constantly being and if

2237
02:02:01,160 --> 02:02:02,840
Speaker 1: there's a guy out there that they think it's got

2238
02:02:02,840 --> 02:02:07,760
Speaker 1: a better upside than yours, you're out, he's in. So

2239
02:02:07,800 --> 02:02:10,400
Speaker 1: they're trying to always get better athletically at the bottom

2240
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Speaker 1: of their roster, because if you get those guys in,

2241
02:02:12,880 --> 02:02:15,640
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, it's just one more coin you

2242
02:02:15,680 --> 02:02:18,440
Speaker 1: put in in a slot machine. One of these coins

2243
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Speaker 1: with all these traits that's worth at least this much,

2244
02:02:21,120 --> 02:02:24,200
Speaker 1: is gonna hit and you're gonna get a big, big

2245
02:02:24,280 --> 02:02:26,320
Speaker 1: return for a guy they picked up off the streets.

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02:02:26,360 --> 02:02:30,520
Speaker 1: That's the thought from Nick. From an XS and o's perspective,

2247
02:02:30,640 --> 02:02:33,040
Speaker 1: was there something wrong with Mitch Morse last year? I'm

2248
02:02:33,040 --> 02:02:35,600
Speaker 1: not a line expert, so I didn't see anything wrong

2249
02:02:35,600 --> 02:02:36,880
Speaker 1: with his game, but I know a lot of fans

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Speaker 1: wanted to cut him for cap space, and even the

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Speaker 1: coaches had him as a healthy scratch one game. Yeah,

2252
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Speaker 1: all that's true. You know, I think it's just a

2253
02:02:46,880 --> 02:02:49,400
Speaker 1: matter of I mean, we know this is a cutthroat

2254
02:02:49,440 --> 02:02:51,760
Speaker 1: what have you done for me lately? League? And if

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Speaker 1: there's a better option at center, the Bills will plug

2256
02:02:54,120 --> 02:02:56,640
Speaker 1: that option in no matter how much they're paying one

2257
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Speaker 1: guy or another. I mean, if you think about it.

2258
02:02:59,360 --> 02:03:02,120
Speaker 1: Trent Murphy had a pretty large cap figure last year

2259
02:03:02,200 --> 02:03:04,800
Speaker 1: and he was inactive for more than half the season.

2260
02:03:04,920 --> 02:03:07,440
Speaker 1: Why because they had guys that they felt gave them

2261
02:03:07,440 --> 02:03:09,080
Speaker 1: a better chance to win who they put on the

2262
02:03:09,080 --> 02:03:12,640
Speaker 1: field every week and it was big money for his

2263
02:03:12,680 --> 02:03:17,520
Speaker 1: spot and they that does not fly and is not

2264
02:03:17,640 --> 02:03:20,800
Speaker 1: a ticket to the field or the active roster your paycheck.

2265
02:03:20,880 --> 02:03:25,440
Speaker 1: And that's something that is unfortunately for other teams, it's

2266
02:03:25,480 --> 02:03:28,960
Speaker 1: not the case inside their building. You got an owner

2267
02:03:29,400 --> 02:03:32,680
Speaker 1: who says, if I'm paying that guy, you're playing him,

2268
02:03:32,840 --> 02:03:35,640
Speaker 1: period and whether it's the best way to do it

2269
02:03:35,720 --> 02:03:37,800
Speaker 1: or not, and that does not That has not been

2270
02:03:37,840 --> 02:03:42,160
Speaker 1: the case with the Buffalo Bills, and it has proven

2271
02:03:42,200 --> 02:03:49,360
Speaker 1: to be successful. Yeah, from Rachel, can you see any

2272
02:03:49,400 --> 02:03:52,600
Speaker 1: new cornerbacks being brought in to compete for the cornerback

2273
02:03:52,600 --> 02:03:54,480
Speaker 1: two spot before the start of the season or at

2274
02:03:54,480 --> 02:03:56,200
Speaker 1: this point is it pretty much down to Levi and

2275
02:03:56,280 --> 02:03:59,600
Speaker 1: Dane Jackson. Well, first of all, Rachel, you have six

2276
02:03:59,720 --> 02:04:03,200
Speaker 1: round pick Rashad wild Goose and you say, wow, he's

2277
02:04:03,200 --> 02:04:06,360
Speaker 1: a sixth round pick. Well, Levi was undrafted and Dan

2278
02:04:06,480 --> 02:04:08,839
Speaker 1: Jackson was a seventh round pick. So don't dismiss Rashade

2279
02:04:08,840 --> 02:04:11,160
Speaker 1: wild Goose as a guy that's going to be part

2280
02:04:11,200 --> 02:04:14,400
Speaker 1: of that competition. And it wouldn't shock me, Steve if

2281
02:04:14,440 --> 02:04:17,920
Speaker 1: they add a couple of more corners that are undrafted rookies,

2282
02:04:18,280 --> 02:04:20,920
Speaker 1: get that come in here. So and I'll bet you

2283
02:04:21,000 --> 02:04:24,600
Speaker 1: this too. I'm saying, I'm just spouting off, but I'll

2284
02:04:24,600 --> 02:04:26,600
Speaker 1: bet you this to the corners they bring in probably

2285
02:04:26,600 --> 02:04:28,000
Speaker 1: are going to be of a type. I'll bet you

2286
02:04:28,000 --> 02:04:31,080
Speaker 1: they're all gonna be six foot six one one because

2287
02:04:31,080 --> 02:04:35,400
Speaker 1: now they can they will strictly be looking for traits, yeah,

2288
02:04:35,440 --> 02:04:38,240
Speaker 1: and seeing how fast that guy with those traits can

2289
02:04:38,280 --> 02:04:42,600
Speaker 1: get good enough to make the team. And this is

2290
02:04:42,600 --> 02:04:45,280
Speaker 1: a team that likes their dbs a little bit taller.

2291
02:04:46,560 --> 02:04:49,800
Speaker 1: Cam lewis not. Dane Jackson is an exception to that.

2292
02:04:52,400 --> 02:04:54,680
Speaker 1: Tarren Johnson's a little bit of an exception to that.

2293
02:04:54,720 --> 02:04:57,000
Speaker 1: He's not that tall either. But with the smaller guys

2294
02:04:57,080 --> 02:05:00,080
Speaker 1: usually line up in the slot right right. And so

2295
02:05:01,160 --> 02:05:03,960
Speaker 1: Levi Wallace is a you know, I can't say enough

2296
02:05:03,960 --> 02:05:07,920
Speaker 1: about him. As ready as people are to see a

2297
02:05:07,920 --> 02:05:12,720
Speaker 1: new face over there gets it done. He gets it done. Man.

2298
02:05:12,880 --> 02:05:15,040
Speaker 1: You can't get him off the field. And there's something

2299
02:05:15,040 --> 02:05:16,760
Speaker 1: to be said from that you may not like it,

2300
02:05:17,040 --> 02:05:21,000
Speaker 1: or you may think you could do better, but until

2301
02:05:21,120 --> 02:05:25,560
Speaker 1: you do, until you can do better, you better be

2302
02:05:25,600 --> 02:05:27,520
Speaker 1: happy with what you got now. Because that's a guy

2303
02:05:27,520 --> 02:05:31,880
Speaker 1: that has been a four year starter for this football team,

2304
02:05:31,880 --> 02:05:34,680
Speaker 1: and three of those four years this just in they've

2305
02:05:34,680 --> 02:05:37,000
Speaker 1: been in the playoffs. Let's go back to the phones

2306
02:05:37,160 --> 02:05:39,760
Speaker 1: and to Chris and Rochester. Chris, what do you have

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02:05:39,800 --> 02:05:44,360
Speaker 1: for us? You're on one Bill's life. Hey, Chris and Steve,

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Speaker 1: can you hear me? Okay? Yes, Ken, awesome, thanks for

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Speaker 1: taking my call. Sure for us? I got a question

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Speaker 1: for you guys. I know that last year, when the

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Speaker 1: league was facing trying to get through the season with

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Speaker 1: the whole pandemic and everything, they made a bunch of

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Speaker 1: different changes to the rules and restrictions in terms of

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Speaker 1: rosters and player movement and stuff like that. So I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about like, I know they increased the practice squad

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Speaker 1: to sixteen players. I know they made it so that

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Speaker 1: you can elevate a couple of practice squad players to

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Speaker 1: the active roster and they reverted back without having to

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Speaker 1: clear waivers. And I know they made the change to

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Speaker 1: the injured reserve where you could activate an unlimited amount

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Speaker 1: of players from injured reserve, and they only had to

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Speaker 1: stay on for I think a minimum of three weeks.

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Speaker 1: I'm curious going into this season now. You know, we're

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Speaker 1: still facing a pandemic, right, I mean, it's not going away.

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Speaker 1: I know we have a vaccine. I know there's a

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Speaker 1: whole lot of controversy about you know, players being vaccinated

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Speaker 1: and whatnot. But I'm curious because a lot of these rules.

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Speaker 1: I personally think they made these changes because they wanted

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Speaker 1: to make sure that they had you know, they weren't

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Speaker 1: sure if there was going to be massive outbreaks and

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Speaker 1: if a lot of players would miss games because of COVID,

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Speaker 1: and in my personal opinion, I think it made I

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Speaker 1: think they're I think they're good rules. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what your guys opinion is, and I wasn't sure if

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Speaker 1: you guys had any knowledge about if these rules are

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Speaker 1: going to be used again this year, or if there

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Speaker 1: could possibly be used going into the future even after

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Speaker 1: we're done with the pandemic. I'm just curious your thoughts

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Speaker 1: on that and if you could elaborate, because I know

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Speaker 1: you guys get info, you know, like the league memos

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Speaker 1: and stuff like that. Right if you could enlighten me,

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Speaker 1: I'd appreciate it. Yeah, so Chris first and foremost, you know,

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Speaker 1: when we had branded on it sounds like some of

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Speaker 1: these things are still TBD. But he did at least

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Speaker 1: give us the impression that he is fully anticipating that

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Speaker 1: that call up from the practice squad and send down

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Speaker 1: without having to put him through waivers will continue this season. Now.

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Speaker 1: The rule, as I remember it was, you can do

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Speaker 1: that with a player two times a season. After that,

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Speaker 1: if you do it, you will have to put them

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Speaker 1: through waivers. The practice squads under the new CBA last

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Speaker 1: year were increased from ten to twelve, and then with

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Speaker 1: the pandemic, they bumped it up to sixteen. I don't

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Speaker 1: anticipate the practice squad being sixteen players strong. The Players

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Speaker 1: Association would certainly be in favor of that because that

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Speaker 1: means more jobs for more players, even if they are

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Speaker 1: practice squad guys and not active roster guys. As far

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Speaker 1: as the other elements of it, I think it's TBD

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Speaker 1: right now. Maybe more than anything else. I think the

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Speaker 1: ir flexibility will continue. I believe that was part of

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Speaker 1: the new CBA, but I'll have to double check and

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Speaker 1: reread all the language and everything all two and seventy eight.

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Speaker 1: They also they also made it possible last year for

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Speaker 1: you to protect guys on your four every week, and

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Speaker 1: that may continue as well. But all this is up

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Speaker 1: in the air because certainly the football end of the

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Speaker 1: question here with how much flexibility they have with their

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Speaker 1: roster and their practice squad, and what stipulations there are

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Speaker 1: for activating and deactivating players, and what those the status

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Speaker 1: of veteran players is as opposed to rookie players, and

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Speaker 1: all the convoluted intricacies of what's at stake, all of

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Speaker 1: that stuff. On the football side of it, they want

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Speaker 1: more players, more flexibility. That doesn't necessarily jibe with the

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Speaker 1: money end of it for each team, and we all

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Speaker 1: know which end wins that argument. So it'll be it'll

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Speaker 1: be a question of you know, the union, the league,

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Speaker 1: the league corporate and each individual team and the football

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02:09:49,240 --> 02:09:53,040
Speaker 1: side of it have to get their opinions out and

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02:09:53,120 --> 02:09:55,000
Speaker 1: to see how you know how it's going to play out.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot in it, and none of it, I

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Speaker 1: don't think we got the gist from Brandon being none

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Speaker 1: of it's been decided. And it's a good question, Chris,

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Speaker 1: because you're right, it was very different last year during

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Speaker 1: the heart of the pandemic. They needed it because they

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02:10:06,520 --> 02:10:10,839
Speaker 1: needed more players available in case a bunch of players

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Speaker 1: got COVID and had to get chucked out. They needed

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Speaker 1: guys who knew the language and knew the offense or

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Speaker 1: the defensive schemes so they could play, they could feel

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Speaker 1: a team. That was a big issue last year. That's

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Speaker 1: not going to be the case this year. So you

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Speaker 1: can expect a little bit of a regression back to

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Speaker 1: the norm of what it was before the pandemic. But

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Speaker 1: it worked so well and gave clubs so much freedom

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Speaker 1: during the season, and I think there may be enough

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Speaker 1: of an impetus from you know, the head coaching ranks

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Speaker 1: and the general manager ranks to get the league to say, Okay,

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Speaker 1: you can have a B or c more players, but

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02:10:47,280 --> 02:10:50,440
Speaker 1: make sure this the players that if they do expand

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Speaker 1: the number of players you can use, it's going to

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Speaker 1: be the cheapest possible price to keep them. They're going

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Speaker 1: to be rookie free agents on unguaranteed contracts, you know,

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Speaker 1: working week by week and that kind of thing. Oh,

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Speaker 1: by the way, too, it Levi Wallace has played three years.

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Speaker 1: This will be his fourth year, and two out of

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Speaker 1: the three years they've been in the playoffs. I said

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Speaker 1: it was four out of the three out of the

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Speaker 1: four years he's only been in the league, played three

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Speaker 1: seasons so far. Yeah, but nevertheless, all that stuff about

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Speaker 1: the rosters and stuff's good question. But nobody and the

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Speaker 1: reason you're asking is because nobody knows yet. Yeah, break

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Speaker 1: time for us here, Steve and I will close it

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Speaker 1: up with what have we learned? Next? Here on one

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Speaker 1: You got a lot of questions today. There's one more

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Speaker 1: here from Patrick sixty one, who says, how many centers

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Speaker 1: do they have on this team? I wasn't sure if

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Speaker 1: they picked up any in free agency or not. I

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Speaker 1: hope they will also use our new defensive ends that

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Speaker 1: have played wide receiver earlier in their career from for

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Speaker 1: some red zone trick plays. Yeah it's not even uh,

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Speaker 1: not even defensive ends. It's Rousseau did but so did

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Speaker 1: so did Spencer Brown. So you got a defensive end

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Speaker 1: tackle them. So did boogie? They Yeah, they got some.

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Speaker 1: It's I guess it's more of a thing now because

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Speaker 1: people think about it and they get into these guys

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Speaker 1: pass because it's also red chronicle. But most NFL athletes

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Speaker 1: have played multiple sports. Yeah, and Dion Dawkins, I think

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Speaker 1: Bills fans have seen him catch a couple of touchdown

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Speaker 1: passes in his time here, and they're like, well, now

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Speaker 1: we got this six eight guy who can reach into

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Speaker 1: the clouds. Blow it to that got like three of them.

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Speaker 1: You know, everybody wants to be Brian Dable and call plays,

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Speaker 1: right They yeah, so yeah, it look smart too. I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm all about it. I love that stuff. And you

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Speaker 1: put think about it. You put these big, tall, heavy

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Speaker 1: guys out there, and you pounded in there with your

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Speaker 1: quarterback who can really run with my boy Justin Zimmer

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Speaker 1: and fullback, and you know it's a lot of weight

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Speaker 1: to get stopped. But then also you do that and

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Speaker 1: he jumps into the line and Josh takes the snap

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Speaker 1: out of shotgun and runs like he's gonna run to

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Speaker 1: the line, backs up and there's like three six eight

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Speaker 1: guys stand there by themselves. Throw it to one of them. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's it's pretty fun to think about centers on the team.

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02:13:24,080 --> 02:13:26,880
Speaker 1: You obviously have Mitch Morris, You've seen John Feliciano line

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Speaker 1: up there. Ryan Bates is capable of playing center. Ike

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Speaker 1: Butcher has even taken snaps in practice. And then Jack Anderson,

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Speaker 1: their seventh round draft choice, is a guard by trade,

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02:13:38,440 --> 02:13:41,160
Speaker 1: but played center at the Senior Bowl and by all

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02:13:41,200 --> 02:13:45,400
Speaker 1: accounts fared well there. So you have options, I guess,

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Speaker 1: for lack of a better term, even if guys not

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Speaker 1: necessarily have that as their listed first position. That'll do

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Speaker 1: it for Steve and I. This week, be sure to

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Speaker 1: check out our one Bills Like podcast, which has already rop.

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Speaker 1: The new episode includes Brandon being along with a talk

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Speaker 1: and a quiz of Steve in the Numbers game on

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Speaker 1: how well he knows when first round quarterbacks hit the

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Speaker 1: field in their rookie year. We'll see you next week.

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Speaker 1: Have a good weekend.