Speaker 1: Be around with the NFL podcast is bigger than the
Speaker 1: Big talk. We're here from the Chris Westling podcast studio.
Speaker 1: It's around the NFL, and I think we have an issue. Okay,
Speaker 1: you're reading me. Yeah, I think there's an issue here.
Speaker 1: They're still here, bets here. Yeah, and I'm starting to
Speaker 1: be concerned. There's an insurrection to Georgia here. Doesn't it
Speaker 1: make sense that they would try to take the territories
Speaker 1: around Sofi Stadium back in the past. Definitely? Oh god,
Speaker 1: they're coming. All right, we're back. Good job because Gregg
Speaker 1: as a peacemaker there built a bridge. Good job. Then
Speaker 1: we locked the doors. Okay, still here, one more day,
Speaker 1: one more concert. I couldn't believe it. No, I mean
Speaker 1: I texted you because I didn't know if you were
Speaker 1: trying to take the same There's a street that Dan
Speaker 1: and I take called Prairie Avenue, which is poorly named
Speaker 1: because it's clogged. I mean, a prairie generally is a
Speaker 1: wide open space and it couldn't be more clogged generally
Speaker 1: with construction. But then this BTS scenario got dropped on us,
Speaker 1: and there's like hundreds of um girls in like cosplay outfits.
Speaker 1: You know, crowding the entry way to the building. So
Speaker 1: so okay, so I was stunned to see that there's
Speaker 1: still people and you know, got here around ten thirty
Speaker 1: in the morning. Concerts at what eight pm, I don't know.
Speaker 1: So I did some reporting. I pounded the pavement and
Speaker 1: talk to some people. And this is what the insider
Speaker 1: came back with, inside side inside the day before, the
Speaker 1: truth to the user in the morning, the dolphin, the merch.
Speaker 1: They're here for the merch. The merch goes on sale
Speaker 1: at five am on the day of the concert, so
Speaker 1: people would come to the concert eight ten hours, twelve hours,
Speaker 1: fourteen hours before it starts for the merch. Even on
Speaker 1: the non concert days, the merch would go on sale.
Speaker 1: And if you got here and I was checking this
Speaker 1: on Twitter, I just seeing if I could go it, yuh,
Speaker 1: if you showed up around six thirty, you'd have about
Speaker 1: an eight hour wait, six hour away to get the merch.
Speaker 1: What what is the merch? Just to a T shirt
Speaker 1: with their like their faces played some of these glow
Speaker 1: lights that they are only useful tonight, that it's like
Speaker 1: SYNCD up with the actual concert. But yeah, some concert
Speaker 1: stuff that you could only get the gross national product
Speaker 1: of the BTS nation. Those my other I had other
Speaker 1: sources that told me those are sixty dollars those flashlights,
Speaker 1: and they're selling them from the break of dawn through
Speaker 1: the concert. It's impressive. And when you got money, you
Speaker 1: got power. And that's why this building is vulnerable. That's
Speaker 1: and that's why would happened earlier. I was at the
Speaker 1: World World Aids Day concert last night. Yeah, at the Forum,
Speaker 1: and it was Jennifer Hudson and Christina Aguilera. It was
Speaker 1: like the most amazing thing ever. But Jet and I
Speaker 1: realized when we were leaving that BTS Army was getting out.
Speaker 1: We sat in bumper to bumper traffic for one hour
Speaker 1: before it took us two hours to get home. One
Speaker 1: hour was in park with all these people with you know,
Speaker 1: their their bunny ears walking past my car in those lights.
Speaker 1: I thought that we were going to be under attack
Speaker 1: at some point. PTS Army is legit. I mean, I
Speaker 1: just say we are from an angle. From one angle. Um,
Speaker 1: a boy band of our own maybe not. The boy
Speaker 1: boy might be strong, but it's like new kids on
Speaker 1: the block are still touring, right. There's no kids in
Speaker 1: that group anymore. I mean, we could square off the
Speaker 1: Sopi Stadium four nights in a row, like I don't
Speaker 1: do you even think the Rolling Stones could be swift?
Speaker 1: I think they could have done eight. I think based
Speaker 1: on like the resale, Oh my god, pretty good, pretty good?
Speaker 1: Watch out all right? Maybe Zach Wilson will be our leader,
Speaker 1: you know, the boy who shall lead us. He might
Speaker 1: be looking for a job soon. He might need to
Speaker 1: fall back plans. It's not that's not funny, um, but
Speaker 1: it does look like it looks the part. That's why
Speaker 1: he certainly does. And Baker Mayfield could be the manager.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know we hit it, probably know why did?
Speaker 1: I didn't even make the initial jab at your quarterback
Speaker 1: who's underperforming. It wasn't intentional, but it was a sitting there.
Speaker 1: It's it's fine, my defenses are up with the boys.
Speaker 1: I didn't need that on any level. Uh it does
Speaker 1: You can pack imagine if Baker lost his hair so
Speaker 1: he just has the middle aged bald ring and then
Speaker 1: he put him in a pair of those like colored
Speaker 1: aviators and a toothpick in his mouth. He could be
Speaker 1: a manager. He could do that. But I mean, he's
Speaker 1: got a great head of hair. So I don't know
Speaker 1: you're that you're wish casting something there. All right, let's
Speaker 1: get to it. Enough of them a larky week thirteens
Speaker 1: here coming up later. Greg's gonna recap Cowboys Saints with
Speaker 1: Henry Hatchson. Don't even get Alvin Kamara there. That's annoying
Speaker 1: what's going on with that season in New Orleans. But
Speaker 1: we're gonna spin forward to the games to be played
Speaker 1: on Sunday and Monday, and uh, strange week, only one
Speaker 1: game between playoff teams, that's the Ravens at Steelers. And
Speaker 1: even that game doesn't have to juice. Only one game
Speaker 1: between one playoff teams if the season, if the season,
Speaker 1: and then uh, we have seven divisional games, so that
Speaker 1: that obviously has uh big impact potentially in division races
Speaker 1: and whatnot, and uh, you know, conference tiebreaker stuff. So
Speaker 1: we're gonna get into it all. Let's start though, as
Speaker 1: we always do before we get to our draft. Let's
Speaker 1: start with the primetime games. Uh, and it's a solid one.
Speaker 1: They got flexed. The Denver Broncos are six and five. Um,
Speaker 1: surprisingly they're six and five. They had that three and
Speaker 1: oh start. They weathered some storms. They've been up and down,
Speaker 1: and it it just so happens that they are six
Speaker 1: and five as the calendars turned over to December and
Speaker 1: a year where the Kansas City Chiefs have been trying
Speaker 1: to figure things out. Now did they figure things out? Greg?
Speaker 1: We will find out. There's seven and four, one game up,
Speaker 1: and I'm kind of rooting Greg for um chaos because
Speaker 1: the Broncos beat the Chiefs, forget about it, the a
Speaker 1: f C West becomes a complete grab bag. It is
Speaker 1: up for grabs. Let's see if that happened. At least
Speaker 1: give us an entertaining game on Sunday night. I know
Speaker 1: these teams seem very unpredictable to me. I kind of
Speaker 1: know what the Broncos offense is. They got some injuries
Speaker 1: this week at tackle and in Melvin Gordon. That's not ideal.
Speaker 1: We know who they are. I know the Chiefs defense
Speaker 1: has been better lately and they're ultimately good. It's like
Speaker 1: the Chiefs are gonna put up. I mean, the Broncos
Speaker 1: are gonna put about twenty points in this game. That's
Speaker 1: my preview for you. On the other side of the ball,
Speaker 1: I have no idea what's gonna happen. These are and
Speaker 1: I looked on football outsiders, these are two of the
Speaker 1: highest variances in terms of the Broncos defense and the
Speaker 1: Chief's offense of any signs on of the football in football,
Speaker 1: like the Broncos defense two out of the last three
Speaker 1: games put it to the Cowboys and did a fantastic
Speaker 1: job of the charges. Could they be one of those
Speaker 1: groups that closes and finishes much different than they looked
Speaker 1: for a big chunk of the season, Because if they are,
Speaker 1: I think they have a chance to slow down the
Speaker 1: Chiefs at least Andy Right, Andy Reid is great coming
Speaker 1: off of bye, but will he take what's given to him?
Speaker 1: And Vic Fangio kind of started this whole trend of
Speaker 1: all around the league, everyone's playing the Chiefs this way.
Speaker 1: This is they're they're playing the way the Broncos play
Speaker 1: every week, which is they beg you to run. They're
Speaker 1: they're begging the Chiefs, who are good at running, They're
Speaker 1: begging them to thinking dunk. Will Andy Reid take what's
Speaker 1: given to him? Will Patrick Mahomes do that in this game?
Speaker 1: If they don't, I don't know. I think it could
Speaker 1: be fun. I think if you're Vick Fongio, and you
Speaker 1: came in at some point and said, here's what I
Speaker 1: envisioned for my team. I mean a little more on offense.
Speaker 1: But this is what the vic Fongio, this is what
Speaker 1: you're selling. I mean, they've allowed under two hundred and
Speaker 1: thirty yards passing in four of the last five games.
Speaker 1: Outside of that Eagles mess. They are shutting air attacks down.
Speaker 1: And Patrick Mahomes has never lost to Denver, has not
Speaker 1: faced this version of Denver's defense that we're seeing right now.
Speaker 1: So I I think that you know, when this got
Speaker 1: flexed it was like really like the Broncos it it's
Speaker 1: turned into something that has become much spicier. What got
Speaker 1: flexed out it was Seattle, San Francisco, smart, what a
Speaker 1: state of affairs. Gotta get russ out, Teddy, come on in, Teddy. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't think that was the selling point. Get Pat
Speaker 1: into prime time more. And that's why it's like, you
Speaker 1: look at this game and I say, I root for
Speaker 1: chaos because I don't really have a dog in the fight.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, do I really think, and
Speaker 1: I know it's been a weird year for Kansas City,
Speaker 1: that Patrick Mahomes is gonna lose in primetime in December
Speaker 1: against the division rival that has flickering hopes of stealing
Speaker 1: the a f C West away. I don't see it.
Speaker 1: And one thing that does surprise me because there's been
Speaker 1: so much handwringing and it's, you know, worthy handwringing because
Speaker 1: the Chiefs that have have had major issues on offense.
Speaker 1: But what have I told you? They haven't lost since October?
Speaker 1: Like this is the Chiefs that everyone it's been a crisis.
Speaker 1: And it's because you don't get the sense that they're
Speaker 1: on a four game winning streak and haven't lost in
Speaker 1: a month and a half almost because, uh, their defense
Speaker 1: has been picking up for the offense. So even though
Speaker 1: throw out that Raiders wine on Sunday Night, those other
Speaker 1: three wins around the bye, they scored twenty thirteen and
Speaker 1: nineteen points, Big Faggio can do cook up everything he
Speaker 1: could cook up and and hold the Chiefs to one
Speaker 1: points or so there's a chance, a good chance that
Speaker 1: Casey is still gonna win because their defense has proven
Speaker 1: now over the past month plus that they don't need
Speaker 1: a shootout, they don't need Mahomes in the offense to
Speaker 1: be elite to get it done. They're getting a pass rush.
Speaker 1: I mean, Chris Jones, who we talked about on our
Speaker 1: show last Friday, has been phenomenal for them, and they
Speaker 1: are I mean, they're just It's okay if teams kind
Speaker 1: of change their identity a little bit during the year.
Speaker 1: I mean, who would have thought that their offense would
Speaker 1: have scored only twenty points against the Giants. They won
Speaker 1: that game, but it's like, this is not the Kansas
Speaker 1: City team we're used to, but they're also coming off
Speaker 1: of bye. Andy Reid has that great history. You do
Speaker 1: kind feel like at some point Mahomes specifically is gonna
Speaker 1: figure it out and get into the flow. It's just this,
Speaker 1: this Denver defense is built to stop the pass. That's
Speaker 1: what they're built to do. Certain's playing great. Kareem Jackson
Speaker 1: might be back for this game. Like they're they're getting
Speaker 1: finally the secondary play that they thought they had. I
Speaker 1: I just don't think on offense they'll hold up like
Speaker 1: they are still down to their third, fourth, fifth string
Speaker 1: tackles against an improved pass rush. It could be a
Speaker 1: tough spot for Teddy, but you know he's you know,
Speaker 1: Teddy higher QB rating than Patrick Mahomes right now. Today's
Speaker 1: analytics are almost too good. They're like embarrassingly good. But
Speaker 1: I think it points to what he's been this year,
Speaker 1: and it's like, I don't it's true. Well, there's this
Speaker 1: one that's like e p A plus completion percentage overexpected
Speaker 1: and he's like second or third in the league. It's
Speaker 1: like that actually says more about the stat than it
Speaker 1: does about Teddy. But I think it's to the point
Speaker 1: that he's he's done exactly what you would hope. I
Speaker 1: just I just you're gonna have to score thirty in
Speaker 1: this game. I don't trust the Broncos defense. I do
Speaker 1: kind of like them to cover nine and a half points.
Speaker 1: Like Vegas is not buying into this Broncos resurgence, and
Speaker 1: they really haven't bought into the Chiefs declining. They're expecting
Speaker 1: it to bounce back. If you are in the Desert Realm.
Speaker 1: The Chiefs has scored fewer than twenty five points in
Speaker 1: five straight home games, which is stunning. And you read
Speaker 1: twenty one and four after the by Greg, you had
Speaker 1: mentioned that and Teddy Bridgewater. This is good, Greg, nice
Speaker 1: little island game for Bridgewater. Who's trying to convince a team,
Speaker 1: Hey keep me around, make me part of your future. Well,
Speaker 1: here's a big game for them. If they could somehow
Speaker 1: win this game. He plays well, that that matters, and
Speaker 1: you take all those advanced analytics that paint him as
Speaker 1: a better than average quarterback now stacks and wins, but
Speaker 1: get a playoff. Vick Fongio also saying keep me around,
Speaker 1: and there aren't a lot of signature wins, and the
Speaker 1: Fongio era the Cowboys is one. This would be huge.
Speaker 1: I think Teddy is the Broncos quarterback next year unless
Speaker 1: they can get Russell Wilson, Aaron Rodgers or Deshaun Watson,
Speaker 1: and then no matter what he does the rest of
Speaker 1: the season, he won't be the Broncos quarterback. So I
Speaker 1: really think that is that's the equation. I think he's coming.
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna if this season. If they strike out,
Speaker 1: it's not It sounds great to go get that one
Speaker 1: of those guys, but there's no guarantee that you will,
Speaker 1: and if you don't, then I think Teddy is like
Speaker 1: their ideal fall back. All right, the best game of
Speaker 1: the week. It's kind of throwback. This is the way
Speaker 1: it used to be in the old days. Monday Night football.
Speaker 1: The New England Patriots, eight and four, riding a six
Speaker 1: game win streak, head up to Orchard Park to face
Speaker 1: the seven and four Buffalo Bills, the team that was
Speaker 1: the heavy favorite to win the division. But guess what,
Speaker 1: the Pats got good, faster than expected. And now Mark,
Speaker 1: the question becomes, and I think we talked about this
Speaker 1: last week as well on the television show, The Pats
Speaker 1: are good, The Pat's a great team, go and beat
Speaker 1: up on the Bills and Orchard Park in primetime. And
Speaker 1: I am all in, yeah, because I think you know,
Speaker 1: you and I sit on different sides of this where
Speaker 1: and it's not just wishing. I I look at the
Speaker 1: Patriots and I look at the fact Bill Belichick is
Speaker 1: their coach, and everything that's happening in the way that
Speaker 1: they're playing, the style that they're playing, the physical side
Speaker 1: on offense, uh takeaway, heavy on defense, shutting down opposing quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: making life hell for one quarterback a week after week
Speaker 1: that I totally buy in, Um I do. I'm with you, though.
Speaker 1: This is the acid test, because coming into this season
Speaker 1: it was like the Bills have dethroned the Patriots and
Speaker 1: this is a long run. It's gonna be a nice,
Speaker 1: enjoyable long run and a change of scenery. It's like
Speaker 1: December second or third right now, and everything's been flipped on.
Speaker 1: It's but because the New England wins this game, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: but it feels to me like the Bills. There are
Speaker 1: many more questions lingering over what the Bills are this
Speaker 1: season with their inconsistencies than New England. If they do
Speaker 1: what they've done to other teams, you know, and it
Speaker 1: has been there each of these you look back at
Speaker 1: the six teams they've beaten in a row, there's been
Speaker 1: a rough fallout for every one of those clubs that
Speaker 1: got thumbed by New England. You think of Baker Mayfield,
Speaker 1: you think of Sam Donald's essentially season ending. I mean,
Speaker 1: they've ripped people up left and right. So if you
Speaker 1: go and do that to Josh Allen, you've got big
Speaker 1: problems if you're Buffalo. Yeah, absolutely right and way the
Speaker 1: way that we thought about the Bills coming up. But
Speaker 1: part of that is because they've like stacked these seasons
Speaker 1: and that they've been building and the fact that eight
Speaker 1: and four is looked at some disappointment for the Buffalo Bill.
Speaker 1: Seven and four excuse me come into this game. I mean,
Speaker 1: what a job that McDermott has done. That that's somehow
Speaker 1: a disappointment to get to this point. This is a
Speaker 1: more experienced team in big spots than this Patriots team.
Speaker 1: Like I think that does matter. Like Josh Allen kind
Speaker 1: of went through a lot of those painful moments and
Speaker 1: he'll have more, and he certainly has bad losses this year,
Speaker 1: but this is a veteran team on both sides of
Speaker 1: the ball with great continuity in Buffalo, and I think
Speaker 1: people are dismissing that. I tend to think that the
Speaker 1: most likely outcome over the next three weeks are that
Speaker 1: these two teams split, because I I personally think they're
Speaker 1: the best two teams along with the Chiefs in the
Speaker 1: a f C. And so to me, like if the
Speaker 1: Patriots win this one, okay, let's see what happens next time.
Speaker 1: I if the Bills win this one, that wouldn't surprise me.
Speaker 1: Like if it's a blowout either way, that that would
Speaker 1: surprise me. Because I think the Bill's defense, even without
Speaker 1: trade Avious White, is a challenge that Mac Jones in
Speaker 1: this Patriots offense, which has been resourceful and it's been good,
Speaker 1: hasn't really faced when you look at the opponents that
Speaker 1: they've had during this winning So you could make the case,
Speaker 1: and I'm with you, although I'm with you to a point. Yes,
Speaker 1: would a split be shocking? No, But I think it
Speaker 1: would very much matter. If New England went to Buffalo
Speaker 1: and one on Monday night, they'd be nine and four
Speaker 1: and the Bills would be kind of in I would
Speaker 1: imagine in a crisis mode internally. It's seven and five
Speaker 1: losing at home in that spot. Also are going to
Speaker 1: Tampa next week, So you're right, it's sort of Let's
Speaker 1: say the Pats one, they go into their by at
Speaker 1: nine and four and in complete control the A f C. East. Um.
Speaker 1: Now we have touched on this and I'll just bring
Speaker 1: it up again. The last one to three, four four
Speaker 1: weeks the Patriots all wins, but they've been facing a
Speaker 1: team that's missing their best player for works in a
Speaker 1: row McCaffrey, Chub Patterson, um Derrick Henry, and A. J. Brown.
Speaker 1: The Bills profile is a healthy team that is ready
Speaker 1: and geared up for this game. UM. I like the
Speaker 1: Bills in this game. I think they're gonna win the game. Uh,
Speaker 1: does anybody else think that are we at the place
Speaker 1: where we're so hot on the paths that nobody's gonna
Speaker 1: pick we see? I feel like the getting hot on
Speaker 1: the Pats thing is almost like like I've fallen for
Speaker 1: some fervor, some religious fervor. I mean, where what I'm
Speaker 1: saying in those four those four wins that you mentioned
Speaker 1: as the question, Well, no, but the four wins you
Speaker 1: mentioned they also allowed a total of twenty six points. Depends,
Speaker 1: but in some places they're favorites slightly, so you're not
Speaker 1: You're hardly on on your own. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't think I'm on my own. I think the thing
Speaker 1: is that, like maybe it's frustrating that people are back
Speaker 1: on the Patriots thing entirely. I think they are going
Speaker 1: to win this game. I think the way we come
Speaker 1: out think about Buffalo was how like you mentioned, if
Speaker 1: it's a blowout, if they blew the Bills out, and
Speaker 1: the Bills have had a couple of rough weeks in
Speaker 1: this season, it changes our perception of them, and it
Speaker 1: only strengthens what I think about New England. I'd be
Speaker 1: shocked if if the Bills defense allowed to blow out.
Speaker 1: I I see like a close, low scoring game, and
Speaker 1: I see Josh Allen being the key in terms of
Speaker 1: his running. I think it was really important last week
Speaker 1: early in that game. I know is the Saints, but
Speaker 1: that's a good run defense. They called a lot of
Speaker 1: design runs. He scrambled a lot. To me, that's how
Speaker 1: you're running game. What what was the question I asked
Speaker 1: you was gonna win? I took the Bills and my
Speaker 1: game picks by a field goal. I don't feel good
Speaker 1: about it. You know you've been doing that. You've been
Speaker 1: nagging Pats team and I've been wrong. That's not true.
Speaker 1: Only once did I pick against them when they lost,
Speaker 1: which you've been You've been the hold the horses guy
Speaker 1: all season with the with the Fats. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's your random coming through noleheartedly believe that the
Speaker 1: Bills are gonna win. Oh, you're doing it. That's why
Speaker 1: I'm gonna lock them. Yeah, you've You've done a great job.
Speaker 1: It could be stupid, but I really do believe that
Speaker 1: they'll probably split, and that the Bills are a strong
Speaker 1: team and they'll adjust to that. That that this Patriots offense,
Speaker 1: like even Mac Jones last week, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: I don't trust them as like a passing game to
Speaker 1: light it up. Of course they could win this game,
Speaker 1: but I think it's gonna be a low scoring defense.
Speaker 1: And people keep saying Mac Jones has not faced like
Speaker 1: a real defense. The Panthers were the number one past
Speaker 1: defense when they whipped them. Okay, I'm just saying, but what.
Speaker 1: But it's like, when are we going to be ready
Speaker 1: to believe in the in the Patriots if it, if
Speaker 1: they handle this, believe in them. I just think there's three.
Speaker 1: Like I said, I think they're one of the favorites
Speaker 1: and the Bills are one of the other two or
Speaker 1: three favorites. And this is a road game. I think
Speaker 1: it's totally a coin flip game. And I'll feel like
Speaker 1: a dumbass if Romandre Stevens and Who's suddenly throw it
Speaker 1: in your fantasy team? Dan, it looks like RB one
Speaker 1: in New England. Stevens is ruining my fantasy team. I
Speaker 1: have you have done? I thought you had Davien Harris guy. Okay,
Speaker 1: I was like, I thought, Damian Harris is gonna have
Speaker 1: a monster season. Suddenly were a mare? Is the guy?
Speaker 1: They he's the flavor of the month. Uh No, and
Speaker 1: listen like, I'm not frustrated about the Pats being good.
Speaker 1: I don't. It's things have changed for me with Tom
Speaker 1: Brady being gone. I don't it. For some reason, it
Speaker 1: doesn't have that same like kick. I'm just from a
Speaker 1: clearly like just where are we at right now? I
Speaker 1: want to see how they come out of these three games.
Speaker 1: And I'm really excited to see your prerogative. So here
Speaker 1: we go. Let's move on. And before Pats fans come out,
Speaker 1: it's like, I see them losing this one. Then you
Speaker 1: beat the Colts and the Bills and you're in first place.
Speaker 1: And the I mean, Greg, you've blocked Like you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, you're in the first place. It's like
Speaker 1: you got two out of three. Yeah, and it's like,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna go undefeated the whole season. You're not
Speaker 1: gonna the rest of the way. You you go at Buffalo,
Speaker 1: by at Indie Home Buffalo, you win two out of three,
Speaker 1: you have a good chance of getting the number one seed.
Speaker 1: And they see because you was Jacksonville at Miami, they've struggled. Yeah,
Speaker 1: need a little. That's a tough one. But I think
Speaker 1: the Ravens will catch the Mills The Chiefs are still
Speaker 1: the team if I'm any team in the AFC, not
Speaker 1: that they're looking around to me, the Chiefs are still
Speaker 1: the scariest. All right, Let's take a break and then
Speaker 1: get to the draft. All right, welcome back, Greg. You
Speaker 1: have the first overall pick, and I could jump you.
Speaker 1: You could, and I might because there's so I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I knew you weren't this. These are a bunch of
Speaker 1: dogs this week you're gonna take You're gonna take my
Speaker 1: pick when it really matters, Chargers Bengals as the number
Speaker 1: one over I'll pick. But that's what I knew. Remember,
Speaker 1: Temple of the Doom. I would have taken it market
Speaker 1: if he didn't take it, U Temple of Doom when
Speaker 1: he rips the guy's heart out of his chest. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do to Greg when I do that
Speaker 1: last jump, because oh yeah, I'm already thinking about that
Speaker 1: Pat schedule. That was a rough situation for the person
Speaker 1: who I don't the alright, go ahead. Romo is late,
Speaker 1: so I thought about taking his game. But Chargers Bengals
Speaker 1: is easily the best game of the morning, and it's
Speaker 1: a nice a f C Wildcard test of two quarterbacks
Speaker 1: taken in the same draft back to back, you know,
Speaker 1: number one, number six, not back to back, close enough,
Speaker 1: and one of them getting a lot of grief Justin Herbert,
Speaker 1: even though like his numbers and he's fifth in the
Speaker 1: least the Justin Herbert defender army is pretty strong, right,
Speaker 1: you guys have a fortified front. There's not a lot
Speaker 1: getting the slings and arrows are not really hitting. It's
Speaker 1: a fair point, Lew Brandon Staley is part of it,
Speaker 1: like he is, noting that it's like we're second in
Speaker 1: e p A. He threw that out, like they're there's
Speaker 1: their second in EPA per play, their top six or
Speaker 1: seven in football tiders. Often it's it's true. And yet
Speaker 1: when you watch it, you don't understand. Burrow I think
Speaker 1: hasn't gotten enough attention for how well he's playing. And
Speaker 1: I know that the Bengals make it easier on him
Speaker 1: lately with how good the running game is and how
Speaker 1: good the um defense has played. But third and thirteen
Speaker 1: last week, particular play that he had, I think it
Speaker 1: was two boyd third and seventeen last week to Higgins,
Speaker 1: he's going back there, and he said it after the
Speaker 1: game I'm glad he said it. He was like, when
Speaker 1: I go back there, I know exactly what I'm seeing,
Speaker 1: and that's what it looks like. He plays more like
Speaker 1: a veteran, I think, than Herbert. He doesn't have the
Speaker 1: skill sets, but man, it just feels like he has
Speaker 1: such a good feel. And that's coaching too. You gotta
Speaker 1: give Zach Taylor some credit of what the opposing defense
Speaker 1: is trying to accomplish. And he knows where his receivers
Speaker 1: are and he's got some great ones, and there's like
Speaker 1: always answers and I do the QB Index every week
Speaker 1: and so many of these guys are up and down.
Speaker 1: You know who hasn't been up and down this year?
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow not perfect, but even in his bad games,
Speaker 1: not too bad, great games, not too great. But he's
Speaker 1: right there around like the number ten eleven quarterback in
Speaker 1: the league maybe, And I'm just so impressed with how
Speaker 1: he's played. I thought that what happened against Pittsburgh, and
Speaker 1: if you're a Bengals fan of a certainty, you know
Speaker 1: you've spent half your life, well no, I mean, it's
Speaker 1: just as it's one of those teams that has been
Speaker 1: bloodied and beaten up by Pittsburgh for eons, and one
Speaker 1: of those teams last week had an identity and completely
Speaker 1: stripped the other team of one. The way that Cincinnati
Speaker 1: is running the ball right now, to um, I think
Speaker 1: that's what maybe D emphasizes, like some of Burrows exploits
Speaker 1: to some degree, because the way they came out and
Speaker 1: set the tone against the Steelers early was formidable. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think that the Bengals that were watching in that
Speaker 1: game can beat the Bills, beat the Patriots, beat the Chiefs,
Speaker 1: I really do. When you get that version, because they're
Speaker 1: super balanced on both sides. Guys like Trey Hendrickson was
Speaker 1: a really good pickup and free agency, he's been dominant
Speaker 1: for them. Mike Hilton made plays last week. I mean,
Speaker 1: they just on both sides. I thought basically ended Pittsburgh season.
Speaker 1: And yet wouldn't it. I don't know what it's surprisingly
Speaker 1: if the Chargers win this game. I can't. This was
Speaker 1: I thought the hardest game to pick. I have no like,
Speaker 1: the Bengals are certainly trending better and it seems like
Speaker 1: they're upsides better, and yet the way this season and
Speaker 1: these two teams trust, I can't. I can't trust either.
Speaker 1: You don't trust the Bengals, don't Is it because of
Speaker 1: the Jets Brown's fiasco back to back fiasco's? I guess yeah,
Speaker 1: it wasn't too long ago. You know, it's just the
Speaker 1: nature of the season. Hey, there is one one person
Speaker 1: or group of people who knows that is certain how
Speaker 1: this game is gonna do. Like this, Nick here again,
Speaker 1: amongst my brothers, there's a consensus this week they all
Speaker 1: like the Bengals. I'm a little more skeptical. Last time
Speaker 1: they were the talk of the town. They got beat
Speaker 1: by a bad Jets team. Then we're completely dismantled by
Speaker 1: the Browns. It's like Chris used to say, the Bengals
Speaker 1: can't have nice things. So I'm really torn on what
Speaker 1: to do this week. So I went back to a
Speaker 1: conversation I had with Chris last year about how much
Speaker 1: I hated Zack Taylor. He refused to run the ball,
Speaker 1: fell in love with his finesse game, and got Joe
Speaker 1: Burrow hurt. The find of a good coach is learning
Speaker 1: from your mistakes. This year, they got in trouble and
Speaker 1: made the correct adjustments in his pounding opponents, and all
Speaker 1: three receivers are making big plays because of it. You
Speaker 1: look around the FC and outside of the Patriots, the
Speaker 1: Bengals are the only balanced team, not only on offense
Speaker 1: but defense too. I can really see him making a
Speaker 1: big deep playoff run this year. We're gonna go ahead
Speaker 1: and lock up the Bangles over the Chargers. Good dad.
Speaker 1: I love what he said. He's convincing me. I might
Speaker 1: flip my pick. I went back and forth in this
Speaker 1: one move. The fact that Nick's locking up the Bengals
Speaker 1: that is that's It's a great point on the run
Speaker 1: game too. When you watch the Bengals, they look the
Speaker 1: most like the Sean McVeigh. Todd Gurley rams with Joe
Speaker 1: Mixon being I know what people thought. Joe Todd Gurley
Speaker 1: was all right, that's good. Let's move on. Good game.
Speaker 1: Not too many to choose from, so let's move to
Speaker 1: the late games. I'm up next in the draft. I
Speaker 1: will take forty is at Seahawks. You guys are killing me.
Speaker 1: Those are my two top games. I literally am lost
Speaker 1: in the forest. This is a tough one. This is
Speaker 1: a tough one to be the third and fourth pick.
Speaker 1: This is a tough snake, felt personal. I think you
Speaker 1: knew Mark wanted that game. I might sit this week out.
Speaker 1: You know what's funny? I hope you don't, Mark. We
Speaker 1: need you, buddy. Um, you know what's funny. I not
Speaker 1: only you know. First of all, I'll start here. I'm
Speaker 1: locking up the Niners like I I and I don't
Speaker 1: know if you're with me, Mark or what, but uh,
Speaker 1: this is this feels like a perfect spot for a
Speaker 1: surging San San Francisco team. I know Debo's not there.
Speaker 1: I know how important he's been, But when I watched
Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks on Monday night, that just team. It
Speaker 1: looked like a dead team walking. And you can say,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, but they're they're at home and they're tougher.
Speaker 1: They have been tougher at home everywhere they play. There
Speaker 1: the same boring, broken offense with a quarterback who's saying
Speaker 1: my fingers fine, but doesn't play the same way. Even
Speaker 1: before he hurt the finger, he was struggling the Shane
Speaker 1: Waldron experiment. If you want to call that, it ain't working.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's his fault. DK Metcalf seems
Speaker 1: like he's one more you know, three target, one catch
Speaker 1: week away from just melting down and attempting to Beckham
Speaker 1: like mutiny here. Um, so I don't like anything about
Speaker 1: what's going on with ctl Seahawks and the forty Niners.
Speaker 1: Their ability to shut that game down against the Vikings
Speaker 1: really stood out to me because it wasn't just their offense,
Speaker 1: it was the defense as well, and they did it
Speaker 1: uh in a way that was impressive to me. Uh,
Speaker 1: they had they they lost guys. You know Aziz Alsha
Speaker 1: here is that correct pronunciation? Um? You know he moved over.
Speaker 1: Fred Warner goes out with a hamstring injury, and that
Speaker 1: guy's making plays all game and he moved to the
Speaker 1: middle linebacker. He's calling plays. Elijah Mitchell I like what
Speaker 1: he's doing. I'm in on this Niners team. Um, and
Speaker 1: that's why I locked him up. I totally think that's
Speaker 1: a legitimate, um logical lock I. The Seahawks are as
Speaker 1: boring as a team i've watched in ages, UM, maybe
Speaker 1: stripping out some of the true trash bag operations. It's
Speaker 1: stunning to see how they've been dominated. They held the
Speaker 1: ball for less than twenty minutes against the Cardinals, barely
Speaker 1: over twenty minutes against the Packers. They gave up forty
Speaker 1: one minutes a possession against Washington. They can't get anyone
Speaker 1: off the field. They can't sustain drives. You know, you're right,
Speaker 1: No Deebo Samuel changes something that I think the Niners
Speaker 1: have done a really special job with under Coyle Shanahan
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks, using him in a way
Speaker 1: that no player in the league is being used. But
Speaker 1: I do look at Brandon Ayuk who you know, it's
Speaker 1: these two teams are are are in such different places
Speaker 1: because a month ago, month plus, it was Brandon Aiyuk
Speaker 1: in the dog house. To some degree, people were writing
Speaker 1: columns saying that there's no leadership on the Niners, that
Speaker 1: they've made all these like headstrong front office choices that
Speaker 1: are completely disasters, and right now it's the Seahawks that
Speaker 1: are facing a lot more chaos induced type questions. I
Speaker 1: think if you're the Niners, you you keep rolling with
Speaker 1: what you're doing. I mean, Jimmy G has I don't
Speaker 1: love Jimmy G to the eyes, but metrics wise, like
Speaker 1: yards per atten MT's higher than any quarterback in the league.
Speaker 1: Since Week eight, He's a forty three class. Week was
Speaker 1: was the ultimate Jimmy G game, though, like he played
Speaker 1: poorly and they won thirty. He's he's the guy right now.
Speaker 1: He's not the guy in the future. But the way
Speaker 1: that they're playing, the way that their offense functions, like,
Speaker 1: as long as he doesn't blow them up with terrible mistakes,
Speaker 1: which is a possibility at any moment, they'll be fine.
Speaker 1: Like on paper, this is the perfect matchup the last
Speaker 1: three weeks to your point, mark the Seahawks of average
Speaker 1: nineteen minutes of time in the in the thirty eight. Now,
Speaker 1: time of possession isn't necessarily much of an indicator of anything,
Speaker 1: like old school football coaches overrated. But when it's that
Speaker 1: outrageous that the Seahawks are like four three minutes on
Speaker 1: the season behind any other team the next close, it's
Speaker 1: a combination of things. It's the offense obviously stinks and
Speaker 1: they're going three now, but it's also like get off
Speaker 1: the field defense, Like the defense hasn't taken any of
Speaker 1: the blame, and they just give up these long drives,
Speaker 1: which on paper matches up so poorly. I think they're
Speaker 1: twenty nine in yards per drive allowed defensively, and that's terrible.
Speaker 1: Then again, they've beaten the forty fifteen out of seventeen times,
Speaker 1: fifteen out of seventeen, Like Santa Han's there for been
Speaker 1: there for a tonk of those. The the only the
Speaker 1: only win in the last handful of years was that
Speaker 1: play by Dre Greenlaw which decided the number one seed
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago in weeks seventeen, where they
Speaker 1: won by half a yard. That's when it took and
Speaker 1: that was the best forty Niners team we've seen for
Speaker 1: them to beat the Seahawks. So for them, it is
Speaker 1: kind of a weird rivalry game that they haven't been
Speaker 1: able to solve. But this feels like the moment you said,
Speaker 1: you know and when you think you figured out season,
Speaker 1: it will smack you in the face. So I'm not
Speaker 1: saying like there's no chance Seattle puts up a competitive
Speaker 1: effort and and it even wins this game. But I
Speaker 1: just feel like where these two franchises are right now
Speaker 1: just sets up very well. And you know, one thing
Speaker 1: about the Niners. Um one more thing I should say
Speaker 1: is I think on the TV show last week, um
Speaker 1: in teeing up the Niners, I said, remember Trey Lance,
Speaker 1: and then there was because he's been absent completely, Jimmy
Speaker 1: g has been the quarterback and NBC Sports Jennifer lee
Speaker 1: Chan reported that Kyle Shanahan has been resistant to rotating
Speaker 1: quarterbacks because they quote stunts his in game play calling.
Speaker 1: He's had one touch since Week six. This is the
Speaker 1: number three overall pick, So this is that's outside the
Speaker 1: box thinking compared to what you usually see in the
Speaker 1: modern NFL. You pick a guy that high he's playing,
Speaker 1: but Shanahan has made a concerted effort and decision to
Speaker 1: stick with You have been killed the sub package. And
Speaker 1: I'm thinking back to when I was in a hospital
Speaker 1: watching the Niners using both quarterbacks back to back on
Speaker 1: dry wonder. I would change this week just because no debo,
Speaker 1: because they haven't needed him in the running game. Deebo
Speaker 1: Samuel has kind of added that other element. And Elijah
Speaker 1: Mitchell's awesome. Like Elijah Mitchell is not just I'm gonna
Speaker 1: stick in a running back. I would take him over
Speaker 1: he moster, He's second in the league and yards after
Speaker 1: yards per carry after contact, Like Elijah Mitchell is a dude.
Speaker 1: Like they found something with him. So it's like you
Speaker 1: don't need Janahan said that it kind of hurts my
Speaker 1: rhythm a little bit going back and forth. All right,
Speaker 1: Uh so I took that and now Marks in a
Speaker 1: tough spot at the snake position. Startup, buddy, Well, it's
Speaker 1: a bad draft and you've got to just go for
Speaker 1: something that at least I think we'll have some substance
Speaker 1: on Sunday Night show. Um, I'm gonna go Baltimore at Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: I don't, uh, necessarily like either one of these teams.
Speaker 1: I think we understand that, um, but I kind of
Speaker 1: find it to keep your enemies closer exactly. Let's it's
Speaker 1: a little bit of a scouting mission. Um. I I
Speaker 1: find it interesting though, because it isn't kind of this
Speaker 1: typical Raven Steelers game on any level. These teams are
Speaker 1: in a fair amount of chaos, but especially Pittsburgh, I
Speaker 1: think one more like they're basically one more loss in
Speaker 1: my book from you know, send him off a bridge
Speaker 1: into the seat. Here. Here's a concern I would have
Speaker 1: Mark from you, because I know you were very excited
Speaker 1: and happy and understandably so about how poorly they played
Speaker 1: against Cincinnati, and you were, you know, dancing on the grave.
Speaker 1: I do the same thing in your position. Good, but
Speaker 1: this does maybe set up as an unfortunate viewing experience
Speaker 1: for you, because the Steelers in win or die mode
Speaker 1: against the Baltimore team that is just barely finding ways
Speaker 1: to beat teams feels like a vulnerable spot. Maybe for
Speaker 1: Baltimore it's fair, I will survive. Um, I understand what
Speaker 1: you're saying. I want to see it. Plus there's no
Speaker 1: good outcome the Ravens crushing them. Is that really? Mark
Speaker 1: doesn't want to see a d D. Reporting on the
Speaker 1: sidelines after the game, like everybody buried the Steelers and
Speaker 1: now they're back and feeling I would say take Pittsburgh out.
Speaker 1: Let's set that closer to the mortality of one of
Speaker 1: these two teams. Thank you. I think you're gonna get it.
Speaker 1: T J. I think they go as t J. Watt
Speaker 1: goes over the last couple of years on defense. When
Speaker 1: he played last week week, well, I think they did.
Speaker 1: He was not t J Watton that that game. Now
Speaker 1: then he shows up on the COVID list, either he
Speaker 1: was hurt coming into the game or who knows, you
Speaker 1: know he got he tested positive for COVID a day later,
Speaker 1: probably not gonna play this game. He wasn't himself last week,
Speaker 1: and their average with him and they're way below average
Speaker 1: without him. It's crazy, like on paper, they match up
Speaker 1: so poorly with the Ravens because they can't cover deep
Speaker 1: and on the outside. That's what the Ravens do well.
Speaker 1: They can't really stop the run. I guess they can't
Speaker 1: do anything, so they match up poorly with everyone. Guys
Speaker 1: like Devin Bush first round pick getting benched. There's all
Speaker 1: sorts of drama. They just don't make any sense with
Speaker 1: such a bad defense. They remind me of the Pats
Speaker 1: from last year. Everyone's so focused on the lousy quarterback
Speaker 1: situation and offense that like no one's paying attention to
Speaker 1: what was supposed to be their bed rock defense falling
Speaker 1: upon well there and d v o A. They've been
Speaker 1: allowing and basically two hundred yards on the ground since
Speaker 1: week ten. I mean it is they're getting beaten up.
Speaker 1: This is like why you have all X Steelers coming
Speaker 1: out of the woodwork. The Raven's offensive line is sneaky
Speaker 1: good too. They've had a lot of stand nine people
Speaker 1: out this week and Wednesday's practice, so that's a concern.
Speaker 1: But they're wait, what was it for? Ye Yeah, I
Speaker 1: like that all right? Good? Any other thoughts on this? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Not particularly Okay, let's move on. Market snakes to you, buddy, well,
Speaker 1: I don't love this at all, but I'm gonna go. No,
Speaker 1: it's just it's a it's a strange week. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go with my I'm picking pet teams. I'm going Cardinals Bears.
Speaker 1: I want to see I think it sounds like it
Speaker 1: sounds like we're getting Kyler Murray because I don't know.
Speaker 1: We've seen these clips from him at practice today minutes
Speaker 1: before we started this, and he looked he was he
Speaker 1: looked spry, looked fine to me, tweeted out fan House
Speaker 1: on Monday, which felt it felt like he's a Nuke's
Speaker 1: practicing as well. So they're all is trending towards these
Speaker 1: guys being bad, and I think they you know, we
Speaker 1: talked about this. They managed this so well. Um, they
Speaker 1: probably could have shoved Kyler into the lineup had it
Speaker 1: been like a huge game before the bye, but they
Speaker 1: didn't have to. And they're playing a banged up Bears
Speaker 1: team that you know, Justin Fields is practicing on a
Speaker 1: limited basis, but Allen Robinson is not ro Kuwan Smith,
Speaker 1: who had been awesome for them for a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: Um is not practicing right now. At this point, Um,
Speaker 1: Robert Quinn has led a defense that has just not
Speaker 1: been a typical Bears defense in a lot of ways.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you get Kyler back in here,
Speaker 1: because for all the heroics of Colt McCoy, um, the
Speaker 1: offense changes entirely if if if Kyli is in there,
Speaker 1: they become ten times more aggressive, especially if it's Hopkins
Speaker 1: in there as well. And I think they're a team
Speaker 1: that we probably them falling off our radar, but they're
Speaker 1: not maybe getting the praise they deserve because you haven't
Speaker 1: had your star players in there. They're the best team
Speaker 1: in the NFL right now, UM hands down to me
Speaker 1: because it's their defense too. And the Bears passing game
Speaker 1: right now is not only the worst of this season
Speaker 1: in terms of yards per game and the yard yards
Speaker 1: is that's just one thing, but the worst team of
Speaker 1: the last four years yardage per games, So they're a mess. Um.
Speaker 1: They are also have given up more sacks than any
Speaker 1: team in the league. So it just seems like against
Speaker 1: this Arizona defense, which doesn't get talked about as much
Speaker 1: because of the offense, the Bears are running into a
Speaker 1: rough scenario in Chicago. Do we worry about Arizona and
Speaker 1: cold wind and cold temperatures. I don't you know. I
Speaker 1: would say the concern here if your Cardinals fan is rusted,
Speaker 1: especially with the quarterback hasn't played in what four or
Speaker 1: five weeks now, So maybe it'll take some time to
Speaker 1: knock that off. Maybe it takes a whole week to
Speaker 1: knock that off. And you said the Cardinals you are
Speaker 1: the best team in football? Did you lose sleep? Were
Speaker 1: you furious when the latest NFL Power rankings came out
Speaker 1: and the Packers had hop scotch those Cardinals number. I
Speaker 1: think though that that's a fair thing to do when
Speaker 1: you have a buy to deal with. But I think
Speaker 1: that you will be proven uh incorrecting the end. I
Speaker 1: think they've been the best so far. I'm with you,
Speaker 1: how do you knock them down? Like zach Ertz has
Speaker 1: emerged since Kyler got hurt last you know game they played,
Speaker 1: It's like a J Green making plays zach Ertz. They
Speaker 1: have so many ways to be I kind of think
Speaker 1: I kind of expect Andy Dalton to start because he
Speaker 1: took most of the reps on Wednesday. That might give
Speaker 1: the Bears a slightly better chance. If I'm Matt Naggy,
Speaker 1: I might not want to. You're like sack, Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're like sacrificing been against this great defense and great
Speaker 1: pass rush for like one more week. Let's wait till
Speaker 1: Fields is a hundred percent get him back next week,
Speaker 1: next year. You want to be met Nagy. When he's
Speaker 1: taken the year off and he's making three and a
Speaker 1: half million dollars a year to do nothing, that's when
Speaker 1: you wanted that. He never seems happy, though he will
Speaker 1: be next year, once he's out of this world. He's
Speaker 1: the most unhappy man in the world. You gotta wash
Speaker 1: the bears out of the hair and you'll he'll be fine.
Speaker 1: He'll be on the phone of Adam Gaze and I'm like,
Speaker 1: where are we going? Which island we go into this week?
Speaker 1: You know, let's get loose. You see that report that
Speaker 1: Adam Gates would listen if the if Notre Dame would
Speaker 1: offer him the head coaching deb Really, when I think
Speaker 1: Adam Gates, I think prize recruit. Yeah, I don't think
Speaker 1: that's gonna play. Um all right up next, is it
Speaker 1: the old user? I think it's the old suser in
Speaker 1: a big spot. Okay, so I do thank you, Paul Rudd.
Speaker 1: I do like so you took that Chargers Bangles game.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna have eyes on that one, Greggy. So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a fun game in the morning with
Speaker 1: that Bucks at Falcons, fun because I like watching Tom
Speaker 1: Brady and the Tampa Bay offense operate. So I will
Speaker 1: grab that game and uh man, what to say about
Speaker 1: this game? It's funny, like are you gonna have eyes?
Speaker 1: The Jets are early two. I mean, that's that's a
Speaker 1: good point, the toughest of all spots right there. But
Speaker 1: I'll figure it out anyway. Don't worry about me. Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay eight and three just taking care of business, rolling through. Um,
Speaker 1: I would like someone else to kind of jump in
Speaker 1: because I, like I've said on the show, I like
Speaker 1: where Tampa is. They're staying mostly healthy. On offense, they're
Speaker 1: taking care of business. And the Falcons, I kind of
Speaker 1: I have them where I have them, which is five
Speaker 1: and six, but really not in the mix, even if
Speaker 1: they're in the on the on the hunt or in
Speaker 1: the hunt category over in the NFC. Anybody want to
Speaker 1: make a case, I'm giving up on them being in
Speaker 1: the hunt for anything other than there are. They're literally
Speaker 1: tied for the last spot. It is weird. I asked you,
Speaker 1: literally asked you the question on our network show if
Speaker 1: anyone bought them at all and in the hunt category,
Speaker 1: and everyone said, I'm sticking a fork. I just didn't
Speaker 1: pointing out that they're literally tight. I can't make that
Speaker 1: case for you. This was the game where it all
Speaker 1: turned around last year. You guys. Remember they came out
Speaker 1: of the bye and the Falcons were up big at
Speaker 1: halftime against the Bucks, and then the Bucks scored like
Speaker 1: twenty eight unanswered in the second half, and then they
Speaker 1: went off to their Super Bowl run. In Week one,
Speaker 1: it was five I remember in the fourth quarter, and
Speaker 1: then they scored about twenty straight points off of a
Speaker 1: lot of turnovers. They should wipe the floor with this
Speaker 1: version of the Falcons team. I'm kind of out of
Speaker 1: things to say here to other than Antoine Winfield is
Speaker 1: like the difference maker here for the Bucks, and they're
Speaker 1: getting Carlton Davis back, their best cornerback, They're getting healthier,
Speaker 1: and Winfield has quietly gotten a lot better. I think
Speaker 1: since his rookie year might be an All Pro almost
Speaker 1: certainly should be a pro bowler, and like they're one
Speaker 1: of the best places you'll see from his safety him
Speaker 1: mossing Michael Pittman, who's a giant and Winfield I think
Speaker 1: is what five ten or something. He's just out physical
Speaker 1: and went above him to take a ball away the
Speaker 1: ball skills for safety there, that's pretty good. A. J. Terrell,
Speaker 1: the Falcons corner number two in PFF's grades, has had
Speaker 1: an incredible season and but you need more than one cornerback.
Speaker 1: It would be good, It would be good. We would
Speaker 1: have to go up to West Point or something, I
Speaker 1: think to find him. But why don't you want to
Speaker 1: see where Tom Coughlin is at on this Leonard four net.
Speaker 1: He's not loving it. Not only got a different human
Speaker 1: but he was probably dealing with a completely different human
Speaker 1: being in Jacksonville. Well maybe just the human being on
Speaker 1: a different team now with I'd like to imagine him
Speaker 1: as like now he's grandfatherly and he's happy. I'm buy
Speaker 1: Naggie won't even be happy next year. But I think
Speaker 1: Coughlin is enjoying his his time away from the game,
Speaker 1: and he's like, I know he's knew that young man
Speaker 1: could uh could realize his potential. I'm glad to see it.
Speaker 1: That feels like heart not. That is not true. Not
Speaker 1: only not only did he score four touchdowns uh and
Speaker 1: a great comeback win over the Colts. Uh. Lenny Fournette.
Speaker 1: It was reported after the game that he gave a
Speaker 1: spirited halftime speech that inspired members of the Buccaneers uh
Speaker 1: and led to the comeback in the second half. Uh.
Speaker 1: That is not playing well with a Tom Coughlin. I
Speaker 1: can tell you that. No. But Tom Coughlin, you tried
Speaker 1: to center the entire experience around uh Blake Bortles, So
Speaker 1: you're going to get a different locker room in a
Speaker 1: different offshoot of that than Tom Brady. And but well,
Speaker 1: and Lenny Fournette, who was I believe the fourth overall
Speaker 1: pick ofen draft. Uh. And just for a little timeline,
Speaker 1: because I did a little digging uh for power rings
Speaker 1: this week. They cut him the Jaguars three years and
Speaker 1: to that rookie contract September and the Bucks scoop him
Speaker 1: up and look at him now, he's one of the
Speaker 1: more productive running backs on the league. That's the Tom
Speaker 1: Brady effect. You could say, is this that he's matured
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. It is a little bit Leonard for net effect.
Speaker 1: You don't think so that he's decided to take command
Speaker 1: of his own I think that's true, But the opportunity
Speaker 1: and everything wouldn't happen without Brady. I'm buying that. Although man,
Speaker 1: he looks good, he's playing well. Let's take a break
Speaker 1: and then we continue on so many strategies here. All right, Greggy,
Speaker 1: you got two picks here. I could jump here too,
Speaker 1: but you know I won't because it's all dogs. Now.
Speaker 1: That's that's two times Ricky's had to use the beep
Speaker 1: in short order. I'm going to strategize and take a
Speaker 1: knock it out games so I don't have to watch
Speaker 1: it on game pass. Vikings Lions early. I swear to God, Vikings,
Speaker 1: you better not blow this game. There's an outside right,
Speaker 1: there's an outside chance that this is tense and that
Speaker 1: the Vikings, you know, could lose the lines to be
Speaker 1: the Lions first one, so like or the or the
Speaker 1: Vikings blow it out and it's a knock it out game.
Speaker 1: Do not do not put it in Gregg Joseph's hands
Speaker 1: with twelve seconds to go. Uh, the team Zimmer, Let's
Speaker 1: take care of business. Don't be so dumb. Dumb team.
Speaker 1: I thought that the Lions were establishing somewhat of an
Speaker 1: identity with an inside running game. DeAndre Swift was in
Speaker 1: the top seven or eight in terms of yards from scrimmins,
Speaker 1: playing really well this year, a guy to build around.
Speaker 1: Uh he's out this week according to rap sheet, and
Speaker 1: without him, I just don't think they have many answers
Speaker 1: on offense. The Vikings are probably you know, they're without
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook, but Zimmer pointed out which I thought was interesting,
Speaker 1: But like, our running game hasn't been good lately anyways,
Speaker 1: and you've kind of seen them turn the dial here
Speaker 1: to putting a little more on Kirk Cousins plate that
Speaker 1: they're just gonna ride the ups and the downs. If
Speaker 1: that happens, this is a nice week, I think to
Speaker 1: get some confidence, not have the Lions Vikings game that
Speaker 1: you had earlier in the season, which took a last
Speaker 1: second field goal for the Vikings to win, and actually
Speaker 1: have a normal Vikings game for once. Let's do it.
Speaker 1: Let's do it. I Alexander Madison has been great when
Speaker 1: he filled in for Cook in the past. He had
Speaker 1: a hundred and fifty three yards against the Lions back
Speaker 1: in Week five, he fried him last year as well,
Speaker 1: So I mean, I don't think that's a you're that's
Speaker 1: a massive ship because that they've been a passing Tones
Speaker 1: defense has come out of the by and have allowed
Speaker 1: six I know, the you know, the opposing teams hasn't
Speaker 1: been great, but sixteen or less than three Straights, then
Speaker 1: they are coaching their butts off for an O and
Speaker 1: they also were a disorganized mess on I'm just saying
Speaker 1: sixteen or less from a defense in three straight weeks
Speaker 1: that looked like the worst in the NFL for so long.
Speaker 1: We didn't talk about it as a group because it
Speaker 1: was a Thanksgiving game, but that was the game I
Speaker 1: did on the podcast, and yeah, not only did you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was Aaron Glen's fault, I
Speaker 1: don't know who was Dan Campbell's fall. Glenn is the DC,
Speaker 1: but the double time out which killed him obviously, but
Speaker 1: then Naggy on top of it also calling the time
Speaker 1: out to stop the clock. Uh, that was quite a clinic.
Speaker 1: I think the only thing with Campbell is they gotta
Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta win a game, you gotta win
Speaker 1: a couple of games here. He's got He's a lot
Speaker 1: of goodwill um within you know, Detroit's fan base and
Speaker 1: outward because his passionate approach to the game and he
Speaker 1: just seems like a real person. But you gotta steal
Speaker 1: a couple of games here and this just I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: I just to me, uh, the one thing I will
Speaker 1: say about and Kirk Cousins statistically, and that's why I
Speaker 1: just you know, like your boy Teddy and everybody, like
Speaker 1: the numbers sometimes don't tell the whole story. Like Kirk.
Speaker 1: His season has been so strange because they've had I
Speaker 1: would say at least five games this year where he
Speaker 1: lights up the building in the first half and then
Speaker 1: they go to sleep for the last two quarters. Like
Speaker 1: there is there's even with it. The numbers are there,
Speaker 1: the productions there, but the streakiness is is an issue
Speaker 1: with them and I and then he usually has a
Speaker 1: good last drive after being quiet. There's a reason why
Speaker 1: last week they're like the only team like it's in
Speaker 1: a ridiculous stat They now every game this season they've
Speaker 1: had at least a seven point lead, uh, and yet
Speaker 1: they're under five hundred. It's because they jump out quick
Speaker 1: and they've had so many games where they just stall
Speaker 1: so let's see if that happens again against Detroit. If anything,
Speaker 1: they've been consistent. I mean, how about go drop like
Speaker 1: a thirty five to seven here? I mean, because won't
Speaker 1: they won't like is essentially on very thin ice. If
Speaker 1: they've stumbled here, they'd be five and seven. Hard to
Speaker 1: take him? Seriously, what's the what's what's the desert on
Speaker 1: this one? Greg? Seven? No way, seven and a half.
Speaker 1: It's I'm going Vikings. I'm going Vikings. All right, all right,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna wrap up my snake pick here. Uh. With
Speaker 1: the football team against the Raiders in the late window,
Speaker 1: I can't quite compute that the winning team of this
Speaker 1: game will either be a six and six football team
Speaker 1: what or a seven in five Raiders team, which is
Speaker 1: almost as big as what I it's gonna happen to
Speaker 1: you confuse me when you said six and six football
Speaker 1: tip technically correct. I don't know what to do with them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the six and six w F tears what I I
Speaker 1: don't know both both of these teams. I'm flum mixed.
Speaker 1: I'm confused. It's okay, it's interesting. It's Antonio Gibson being
Speaker 1: a really important part of this Washington team dominating time possession.
Speaker 1: He was someone coming into the year. I was like,
Speaker 1: that's your big breakout running back right there. What a
Speaker 1: rookie season where he could do everything. And he was
Speaker 1: hurt for much of this season, playing through injury, which
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfields learned you don't get credit for, and Antonio
Speaker 1: Gibson's fantasy owners were not giving him credit for about
Speaker 1: eight weeks. But he looks a lot better lately, and
Speaker 1: they do match up pretty well with the Raiders in
Speaker 1: terms of the Raiders are a team that sometimes give
Speaker 1: up a lot of these long d rives that their
Speaker 1: strength is in the past rush, which maybe isn't going
Speaker 1: to be that big of a factor against Washington. I
Speaker 1: don't know what to think of this game, but it
Speaker 1: should be close, flip. I feel like this one is
Speaker 1: there's no way to have a I feel like a
Speaker 1: real strong handle on this game because the Raiders when
Speaker 1: we gave up on them, they showed up in Dallas
Speaker 1: perform and they caught I think they caught Dallas at
Speaker 1: the perfect time. They did it. They still they didn't
Speaker 1: do it. They won that game they deserve to win.
Speaker 1: Dallas got back into that game, but they still found
Speaker 1: a way to close it out and Washington they have
Speaker 1: a formula, as we talked about on Tuesday's show that
Speaker 1: seems to be working. But will it work if you know,
Speaker 1: they fall behind if the Raiders offense continues to do
Speaker 1: things that the one thing I'll say about Vegas, you know,
Speaker 1: in their offense coming back to life. And I don't
Speaker 1: want to be the dead horse here, but when you
Speaker 1: point to well, DeShawn Jackson's there now and making the plays,
Speaker 1: that feels like a once in like you know how
Speaker 1: the full moon shows up every month or whatever it is,
Speaker 1: Like that's the shan Jackson to ask for him to
Speaker 1: be the guy ripping the top off the defense on
Speaker 1: a weekly basis. I'm not totally sold because you still
Speaker 1: need that element to show up every week otherwise they
Speaker 1: become very predictable. And Darren Waller being I think out
Speaker 1: of this game and I don't know, but it looks
Speaker 1: like banged up at the very least. That that's a
Speaker 1: big deal too. I just I mean, you know, we
Speaker 1: get on these streaky teams before that Cowboys game, and
Speaker 1: I'm not put st you know, the ref's killed both
Speaker 1: of those teams in that game. But a lot of
Speaker 1: the DeShawn Jackson value wasn't drawing p I flags as well.
Speaker 1: But prior to that explosion, they put up sixteen on
Speaker 1: the Giants, fourteen on the Chiefs, and thirteen on the Bengals.
Speaker 1: I just see them as an up and down team.
Speaker 1: They can pass the ball really well. They can get
Speaker 1: two quarterbacks. That's dangerous. That'll get you a quarterback. They
Speaker 1: have a top I think five or six quarterback this year.
Speaker 1: Every time we've given up on them, they've stood up
Speaker 1: and like stayed in the mix with with some surprising
Speaker 1: big win and a top five pass rusher and may
Speaker 1: in um In Crosby. Yeah, yeah, and go has been great.
Speaker 1: That said, it's not like I feel that strong, but
Speaker 1: I just I lean a little Raiders. But I think
Speaker 1: it's because I can't get over that Washington's defense is
Speaker 1: suddenly back without sweat, you know, young and sweaty. I
Speaker 1: don't know, it doesn't make any sense. And you look
Speaker 1: at the opponents. They haven't played great. Sometimes it's good
Speaker 1: to get young and sweaty people out of your dry Yeah.
Speaker 1: I know, they played the Bucks. The defense really had
Speaker 1: a great first quarter in that game, and then the
Speaker 1: Bucks moved the ball and then they've played Caroline at Seattle,
Speaker 1: so it's uh, there is also another there's a chance
Speaker 1: and as we take this, it's before TNF that if
Speaker 1: the Cowboys ever lost and the Washington beat the Raiders,
Speaker 1: there one game out of that division with uh vibe
Speaker 1: to play. That's that's a um all right now it
Speaker 1: uh it goes, it goes back over to the old user.
Speaker 1: Oh one more note I want to say, because I
Speaker 1: sometimes Greg, I had to do some checks and balances
Speaker 1: on you with the going after the crew, the announcers
Speaker 1: and everything. You know, sometimes me and I give a
Speaker 1: lot of works in the industry. Knows this a tough job,
Speaker 1: right as he always riding these guys so hard, because
Speaker 1: like those same guys are, you know, providing analysis against
Speaker 1: the players that they have valued. They they you know,
Speaker 1: come come criticize me. I'm fine. I guess what. I
Speaker 1: went back this morning and I watched that last Washington
Speaker 1: drive because you said that the team did not bring
Speaker 1: up the Joey slice situation until about fifteen seconds were
Speaker 1: left on the play clock as they were about to
Speaker 1: go for the fourth down. Did it happen earlier in
Speaker 1: that drive? I want to tell you that you were
Speaker 1: right that greasy set it up. Set it up at
Speaker 1: the top of the possession, that hey, what are we
Speaker 1: looking for from Washington? Here opened the door up. I'm sure,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Who's the um the pay Levi sets it up? Greasy?
Speaker 1: They all they do want to check. Yeah, all they
Speaker 1: wanted to do was talk about how power football is
Speaker 1: great and this is what we like to do. And
Speaker 1: they talked about it for the entire drive. It was
Speaker 1: the biggest drive in the game. They're talking about Heinek,
Speaker 1: He's future in Washington when it's like for this crew,
Speaker 1: I'm like okay there. Once they get to midfield, they
Speaker 1: have to start talking about it because again Joey sly
Speaker 1: injured kicker. It's a eight point lead. They just need three,
Speaker 1: but because of the nature of the kicker being out,
Speaker 1: they couldn't kick a field goal. You need to talk
Speaker 1: about it. They don't mention it midfield and they get
Speaker 1: another first step they don't mention it. Finally, at third
Speaker 1: and seven inside the thirty. It almost sounded like the
Speaker 1: wave came off. Is that somebody got Levi's year and say, hey,
Speaker 1: they're probably gonna go for it on fourth down here,
Speaker 1: and Levy then brought it up, and then almost at
Speaker 1: the same time, they catch the cameras cut to Rivera
Speaker 1: on the sideline after a delay of game penalty makes
Speaker 1: a third and twelve and Rivera's going to weet we're
Speaker 1: running two plays here, and then they get into the
Speaker 1: conversation that has to happen earlier. So I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: say your criticism was valid in this case, but I'm
Speaker 1: checking in. I'm checking in. That's what a host does.
Speaker 1: It's unfair to come unfair that the Monday Night Football
Speaker 1: crew gets the one game all week where I'm sitting
Speaker 1: by myself at home, just like wanting a good experience.
Speaker 1: You know, there's no TNF recap there, and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I would take this with demanding brothers
Speaker 1: on ESPN two, like I don't care. You know it is.
Speaker 1: It's like there's no wins and losses, but here's my
Speaker 1: wining loss, Like I would take the CBS or Fox
Speaker 1: fourth or fifth crew over that. Hey, that's a good
Speaker 1: job by you, Greggy Night. It's not sold as a
Speaker 1: dream crew, right, I mean, but I'm like saying star
Speaker 1: crossed from the beginning, So keep dropping verbal hammers on
Speaker 1: them and see where that gets them. When you sit
Speaker 1: down on Monday night, you want to just enjoy yourself.
Speaker 1: I get it, Greggy, but you already have one guy
Speaker 1: that was in that booth trying to kill you at
Speaker 1: a league event. That's right, is that I'm trying to protect.
Speaker 1: There's no protecting. I don't think that was a public
Speaker 1: Every time Greg concoct some lie we did to that before,
Speaker 1: I don't know if we had fully got um look
Speaker 1: with that. Let's keep it, keep it that way, Okay,
Speaker 1: I think we have I think the cats out of
Speaker 1: the back. Where are we? Holy smokes? I'm up and
Speaker 1: I will grab dramatic pause Eagles and Jets, So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have. What I'm gonna do is I'm gonna push.
Speaker 1: I was looking forward to that Chargers Bangles tilt on Sunday.
Speaker 1: You can only watch two games at a time. M
Speaker 1: try to watch three. You want to you want to
Speaker 1: be a playboy like Mark. You want to be in
Speaker 1: your little world, I can watch six games at once.
Speaker 1: I'm not doing that. By the way, Well you know
Speaker 1: I've seen your screen. You got eight games that I know.
Speaker 1: But I'm not like I I'm if anything, I'm the
Speaker 1: one that has long said when I'm even trying to
Speaker 1: listen to two games at the same time, my head explodes.
Speaker 1: So I'm not tracking diligently six at the same time.
Speaker 1: It's like the old Parcels ism when you got two quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: you don't got any When you're trying to watch three games,
Speaker 1: you're not watching one. Well, I mean, but so what
Speaker 1: is the accusation. The accusation is I need to move
Speaker 1: away from Chargers Bengals. Make it the first game I
Speaker 1: watch a Monday and game passing. That's something to look
Speaker 1: forward to. I think you've come up with a with
Speaker 1: an absolutely um golden plan for you, And I would
Speaker 1: just say, maybe it's time to ex out a couple
Speaker 1: of those screens, that's all, But why, but why do
Speaker 1: you care? Like what I do? Plus they're all the
Speaker 1: same size, Like this game, I get there, I get
Speaker 1: there and Greg runs it rolls in. He's like, oh,
Speaker 1: you got all its strains up. And then Dan comes
Speaker 1: in and he like critiques my shirt and that doesn't
Speaker 1: like the way my screen. That's not criticizing. When I
Speaker 1: see that, I'm just more it's like I always got
Speaker 1: it set up it should I do the two of you? Possibly?
Speaker 1: I don't say anything. It minds not negative. Dan is
Speaker 1: making saying no, that's just constructive criticism. Did you say
Speaker 1: I criticized your shirt? I mean it happens, like why
Speaker 1: are you wearing that shirt? What? Never? I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's something. It's like it's some variation of like Nick
Speaker 1: me for his shirts. You're like, oh, that's old red
Speaker 1: or something. Well, yes, but sometimes you're complimenting the shirt too.
Speaker 1: I'm not I see both sides, but I'm just saying
Speaker 1: it's like, why, like I have the technology to put
Speaker 1: all the games on and I'm not sitting there tracking
Speaker 1: it like some hyper nerd. It's just like, oh, something
Speaker 1: happened over there, and it's on a bit of a delay.
Speaker 1: I can I can grab it. I'm trying to come
Speaker 1: to the recap show with as much information as possible,
Speaker 1: but you see that there's an over usually a useless task.
Speaker 1: Different methods, you know, we've all got our different ways
Speaker 1: to different strokes for different folks. Am I right? I mean, yes,
Speaker 1: now you've come around to that opinion. But that was
Speaker 1: that's not how that's you know. I'm just saying that's
Speaker 1: what they say. Okay, well they do and sometimes that
Speaker 1: it's that applies Eagles at Jets. I'd like to uh
Speaker 1: uh share something, Ricky. Can I get some funeral? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm going to read you some stuff here zero nine
Speaker 1: sixteen nine nineteen. The New York Jets have played the
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles eleven times and have never won. Haven't been
Speaker 1: closed too often, And I can tell you one of
Speaker 1: my earliest memories as a Jets bean was then I'll
Speaker 1: go scroll right up here on Pro Football Reference. October third,
Speaker 1: ninety Eagles win over the Jets at the Old Giant Stadium.
Speaker 1: Eric Allen picks off a ball Boomers size in pass
Speaker 1: deep in Eagles territory, runs back, zigzagging ninety yard uh
Speaker 1: interception returned to steal that game away. Uh. This has
Speaker 1: been a weird little anomaly. But the Jets can't beat
Speaker 1: the Eagles. Now they're home, Okay. Jalen Hurts has beat up. Okay, Uh,
Speaker 1: it looks like he'll play as of right now, but
Speaker 1: I think he has a knee and it's an issue ankle.
Speaker 1: And the Eagles obviously coming off a very disappointing week. Uh,
Speaker 1: so you have a you have a chance here for
Speaker 1: the Jets. Here's the problem, and we're talking about the
Speaker 1: boy earlier in the show. The boy is not in
Speaker 1: a good place right now. The boy, essentially, the boy
Speaker 1: looks like oh boy and um. And that's why I
Speaker 1: think the Eagles are going to continue that streak, because
Speaker 1: I think the Jets are in a very tough spot
Speaker 1: now because they know the right play is to play
Speaker 1: the boy as long as that knee is okay. And
Speaker 1: the knee is not okay, so that makes it. That's
Speaker 1: another layer to it. He was limping around by the
Speaker 1: end of the game, but that that game is uh.
Speaker 1: Last week against the Texans was it was moving way
Speaker 1: too fast for him. And I think that the book
Speaker 1: is out on this version, this rookie version of Zach Wilson,
Speaker 1: that just heat him up, get him confused, and he
Speaker 1: will not be able to play the game well. And
Speaker 1: that's why I think the Jets are gonna struggle to
Speaker 1: score and the Eagles will do just enough and they
Speaker 1: will go twelve and oh against the New York You know,
Speaker 1: I just trust like Philly's offensive line, I trust their
Speaker 1: defense against the Jets, I trust essentially anything that they
Speaker 1: throw out there. I mean their offense, you know last
Speaker 1: week was a mess. Don't let's not have you know,
Speaker 1: four turnovers and score only thirteen points against the seven
Speaker 1: points against the Giants. That's a mess. Uh. But what
Speaker 1: the idea that couldn't handle the Jets this week would
Speaker 1: be destabilizing because if anything, the Eagles have looked legit
Speaker 1: to me, four of the last five the Jets here
Speaker 1: right right right? I mean I do you are you
Speaker 1: saying like even a competitive game? I mean the Jets
Speaker 1: have lost it. It's in the lock zone. It's like
Speaker 1: six and a half. So it's not a crazy favorite situation.
Speaker 1: But that's because you know what happened with Philly last
Speaker 1: of my problem with the Jets a little bit, and
Speaker 1: it's just like, look at this year is what it is.
Speaker 1: You gotta go. You got more work to do. Eight
Speaker 1: losses by seven or more points, and some buy a
Speaker 1: lot more than seven, and they've just been destroyed by teams,
Speaker 1: which is not what Robert Sala was selling. Well, here's
Speaker 1: the case. Their defense has been better than the last
Speaker 1: two weeks. It was the worst against the Texans and
Speaker 1: the Dolphins. That was the worst. It was the worst
Speaker 1: defense in the league for about six weeks. It was
Speaker 1: historically bad. They've kind of come out of that a
Speaker 1: little bit, it seems like. And that's why I don't
Speaker 1: I don't see the Eagles like rolling up thirty five
Speaker 1: points here. I could be obviously wrong on that, but
Speaker 1: I think this is gonna be like a twenty four
Speaker 1: to nine type game. But I will say this. Remember
Speaker 1: we're talking about on the Sunday Night Show. I hadn't
Speaker 1: seen the game yet, and Eagles fans were furious. They
Speaker 1: were really hurt because I think they got sucked in
Speaker 1: by the back to back wins and Jalen Hurts playing well,
Speaker 1: and it's just like, I want everybody to calm down
Speaker 1: if you're starting to like waiver On Hurts again because
Speaker 1: Jalen Reagor blew that game. I mean, you don't want
Speaker 1: to put it on one player, but he's got to
Speaker 1: make one of those plays on that last drive he
Speaker 1: drops two balls by the goal line. Either of them
Speaker 1: wins the game for the Eagles, and we're talking about
Speaker 1: a totally different situation around this team. Ragor's got to
Speaker 1: be better, but otherwise I think they're in good shape.
Speaker 1: This week. Personally, must have an ankle injury, which he's
Speaker 1: gonna he says he's gonna play through. But you could
Speaker 1: get a little Gardner Minshew in this if they yeah,
Speaker 1: he's taken, he's taken some reps. They did still have
Speaker 1: two d yards rushing in that game. Hurts at seventy
Speaker 1: seven last week. So I think they're the perfect matchup
Speaker 1: to the light up the Jets because they're they have
Speaker 1: a similar type of run game as the Pats and
Speaker 1: the Colts, who really took advantage. The Jets are pretty
Speaker 1: good rushing in the pastor right now, but they've just
Speaker 1: got like that penetrate at all costs type of defense
Speaker 1: and a power running game like the Eagles, who can
Speaker 1: do the wham blocks and do the pulling guards and
Speaker 1: everything like that's a perfect that's a perfect bold. They
Speaker 1: could do what Indianapolis and the Colts can do, and
Speaker 1: then on on defense, like Darius Slay is having a
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl season. He's one of those rare guys like
Speaker 1: you could put him on Elijah More and like everyone
Speaker 1: else just throws at Stephen Wilson all day, but Corey
Speaker 1: Davis is hurt. I think still it's like, so, who
Speaker 1: who are they throwing too as their number two. You know,
Speaker 1: I think it's a tough matchup rough December, all right,
Speaker 1: long December, and there's reason to believe. Come on, t
Speaker 1: I am not a good singer, so maybe this year
Speaker 1: will be better than the last. In my favorite moment,
Speaker 1: definite history of that show, the lap trap and facial
Speaker 1: the facial. Oh, I mean you know this is not
Speaker 1: a singing is not my thing. You know, Sometimes you
Speaker 1: just have a moment that you're just like, yeah, Ricky's
Speaker 1: putting that on social. The only the only chance Mark
Speaker 1: that you avoid social is that that somehow dings like
Speaker 1: Adam Efter it's copyright. Uh, you can't sing Ian. We
Speaker 1: just I already lost my job because of BTS. So
Speaker 1: we're good, all right. Uh, let's take a break and
Speaker 1: then hit the rest of the games. Mark, I think
Speaker 1: the draft finishes with you. It does, and I have
Speaker 1: drafted Mr Irrelevant the Cults at Texans one pm Eastern.
Speaker 1: If you live in the East Coast, that's when you
Speaker 1: start watching this. There's probably better things you could do. Uh,
Speaker 1: I will not suggest you. I will not make that
Speaker 1: decision for you. Six and six cults, how differently they're
Speaker 1: looked at um than say like the six and six Browns,
Speaker 1: for instance. But I don't understand anyway how they don't
Speaker 1: go into this game with guys like Darius Leonard uh
Speaker 1: punishing Houston's offense, which has certainly been spicier to some
Speaker 1: degree with Tyrod Taylor in there. But I mean a
Speaker 1: little bit, Davis Mills was like a flatliner, excepting outside
Speaker 1: that page. This way, they had yards in the second
Speaker 1: half against the Jets last week and zero points, So
Speaker 1: even though they're more competitive, it's still but to your point,
Speaker 1: the Jets played better on defense. Maybe maybe it was
Speaker 1: that penetrating Jets defense that caused the Maybe it was
Speaker 1: right there. I kind of dug frank Reich because I
Speaker 1: know everyone was coming out of Sunday, like why did
Speaker 1: they not use Jonathan Taylor the way that we thought
Speaker 1: they would the way they did the week before against
Speaker 1: a good run defense and Buffalo. And he kind of
Speaker 1: stood up and like said two reporters, like let me
Speaker 1: walk you through what we did and how many touches
Speaker 1: he got. Go watch it just while it's out there
Speaker 1: all over the place, and like he stood up for
Speaker 1: why the cults um attacked the Bucks the way they
Speaker 1: did my one thing with them. I find them so
Speaker 1: much more interesting than they were a couple of months ago.
Speaker 1: But their season seems defined by an inability to close
Speaker 1: out some of these games. The Ravens game where they
Speaker 1: get up big, the Titans game where they got up big,
Speaker 1: the Bucks game where they had a chance to get
Speaker 1: this thing done. And it's just like, this is a separator.
Speaker 1: This is why you're six and six. So what they
Speaker 1: are good at though, and why they are you know,
Speaker 1: totally trustable in a game like this is like fiery
Speaker 1: arrows going through bad opponents, destroying bad teams, And this
Speaker 1: should be no, we should not, we should not go
Speaker 1: far from the course of this one. Has any team
Speaker 1: looked more um destined to make the playoffs, get out
Speaker 1: to a lead against the favorite opponent and then drop
Speaker 1: a heartbreaker like maybe the Vikings, but we'll see if
Speaker 1: they even get to the playoffs. Because they're so hot
Speaker 1: and cold, I feel like India is gonna do what
Speaker 1: it needs to do to get to the nine wins.
Speaker 1: Be playing in January, maybe be maybe they're at Kansas
Speaker 1: City and maybe they're up to ten and the third
Speaker 1: quarter and then disaster strikes. That just it feels like
Speaker 1: it could be their fate. Now you tell me if
Speaker 1: they play kind of has their fate last year too,
Speaker 1: they had a leading a little bit. I mean, and
Speaker 1: Chiefs and Colts fans will say, oh yeah, we remember, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, playing the Chiefs in the playoffs that but
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck ate in the building anymore. It's Carson Wentz. Uh.
Speaker 1: I think the cults are good. The cults are vulnerable,
Speaker 1: but I think they take care of business here. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So this just came across our desk and email. Okay, no,
Speaker 1: this is big. Well, it's trending on Twitter as well.
Speaker 1: NFL suspends three players for violating NFL nfl p A
Speaker 1: COVID nineteen protocols. Antonio Brown and Mike Edwards from the
Speaker 1: Bucks are suspended for three games, and then free agent
Speaker 1: John Franklin not John Franklin, Myers, Um, we're all over
Speaker 1: this Antonio Brown, right, Yes, suspension is bigger? Does he?
Speaker 1: I wonder if that's why they expected. You know, they
Speaker 1: kept saying he was going to come back this week
Speaker 1: or last week, and then the ankle injury just keeps
Speaker 1: lasting forever. And my suspicion as he was uh knowing
Speaker 1: this was coming the whole time, and he was that
Speaker 1: guy is trying to fight it. Mike Edwards starts for them,
Speaker 1: So that is, you know, an actual loss in a
Speaker 1: secondary three games that you know they've they've been trying
Speaker 1: to get players back, not that he's a superstar John Franklin.
Speaker 1: The third makes me sad because he um was a
Speaker 1: last chance you guy who had carved out a a
Speaker 1: surprising career on the very fringes. If you had watched
Speaker 1: that show, he was a quarterback and turned into a
Speaker 1: defensive make fake ideas well, we don't know, I don't
Speaker 1: know if that's uh probably he already was not on
Speaker 1: a team. So the Bucks have been real different with
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown in there at times. So I don't think
Speaker 1: you know about him like that. He's not a good guy.
Speaker 1: He's a clown. Uh, He's he's a champion too. But
Speaker 1: again because Tom Brady, like right, Tom Brady doesn't seem
Speaker 1: to care that he's a goon in the same way
Speaker 1: that it gets because because he's good at football and
Speaker 1: he's like smart at football too, that's all Tom Tommy
Speaker 1: cares about. Uh, there's three game suspension though it's like
Speaker 1: he returns with three games left in the season. It
Speaker 1: feels like there's so much time left. I mean that,
Speaker 1: like we've gotten to the end where past thanks to me,
Speaker 1: we're only two thirds the way through the season is
Speaker 1: just set, you know, six weeks to go here, It's
Speaker 1: like all they really cares. My point is. The point
Speaker 1: is this is a team that's going to the playoffs.
Speaker 1: It's gonna have a home games in the playoffs. Antonio
Speaker 1: Brown will be back for the playoffs. Okay, that's what
Speaker 1: matters for them. Good, All right, Let's hit the rest
Speaker 1: of the game, starting with the Giants at the Dolphins. Okay,
Speaker 1: we'll see if Daniel Jones is playing in this game.
Speaker 1: Tom pel Sero reported that he is not playing, not
Speaker 1: expect exclusively. Tom Peli Sero with that report, is he playing?
Speaker 1: The coaches keep implying that he he might be that
Speaker 1: and he has practiced pretty extensively. They showed some video
Speaker 1: that he was the last guy on the field still
Speaker 1: throwing passes. That's not normally what a guy that's gonna
Speaker 1: miss the game? Does. Freddie Kitchens sounded confidence, So either
Speaker 1: Mike len So, either either fred Kitchen and the Giants
Speaker 1: are really trying to pull a fast one or Daniel
Speaker 1: Jones recovered a little more quickly the next. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know, like how much of a fast one
Speaker 1: is Freddie Kitchens polling if he, you know, gets us
Speaker 1: to suspect that Daniel Jones isn't starting on a broken down.
Speaker 1: I personally doubt that Freddie Kitchens is right. I don't
Speaker 1: see the motivation for him. He's, you know, at the
Speaker 1: podium to be going that far out of his way.
Speaker 1: So it's probably Daniel a plus four turnover ratio. I'm
Speaker 1: not the report. I think it's probably Daniel Joe an
Speaker 1: exclusive report. That's four wins in a row for the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: They get the Giants maybe with a compromised quarterback, then
Speaker 1: to buy, then the Jets and the broken down Saints.
Speaker 1: The Dolphins have a really good shot to make the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe bring that up in your conversation with Henry
Speaker 1: later to give content ideas. But sure, great. My thing
Speaker 1: is I wanna you know, I think Henry is more
Speaker 1: than just a Dolphins fan. He's a fine football mind,
Speaker 1: a great friend. Uh and he's also maybe the future
Speaker 1: commissioner of the NFL. So you see where gould be
Speaker 1: weird about it. It's just accurate, not weird to do
Speaker 1: it with your you know, your friends. He's also been
Speaker 1: a to a defender, and I think that position is
Speaker 1: feeling good right now because two, it does things well,
Speaker 1: like everyone focuses on what to it doesn't do well.
Speaker 1: And maybe his ceiling isn't the highest. We don't really know.
Speaker 1: I think it's still early. But like he's an NFL quarterback,
Speaker 1: you can tell that he's gonna be around for twelve
Speaker 1: to fifteen years. I really think. Okay, but what he
Speaker 1: does do really well is that quick game stuff. And
Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, that's great. You can throw at six
Speaker 1: yards and you make quick decision, you're good on the
Speaker 1: r P O stuff. It's like, not everyone can do that.
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson can't do that. I'm just not saying that
Speaker 1: he's gonna be anywhere near Russell Wilson. But that's a
Speaker 1: certain sort of skill set that you can run a
Speaker 1: certain type of offense that isn't gonna kill you, and
Speaker 1: he can run it. Right now. In his second years,
Speaker 1: Chill and Waddle I think has become a absolute factor.
Speaker 1: I mean, he was awesome last week against Carolina. Second
Speaker 1: highest completion percentage in the league, their draft classes doing
Speaker 1: well to Javon holland their safety wad you mentioned Phillips
Speaker 1: last week had three sacks. So I feel like the
Speaker 1: Chris Greer saving his job, Brian Clare staying around. It's
Speaker 1: all happy. Everything has changed so much since a month
Speaker 1: ago on Halloween, they lost their seventh straight game and
Speaker 1: now here they are at five and seven with a
Speaker 1: real shot here to go on and run and make
Speaker 1: the class. And by the way, because they've gotten hot,
Speaker 1: not only so two just keeps up his production. And
Speaker 1: if they go and they get to nine wins, uh
Speaker 1: and make the playoffs potentially, I think that maybe enough
Speaker 1: to keep them out of the Watson sweepstakes. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying it seems like he might have destiny in his
Speaker 1: hands a little bit more now. Uh, but we'll see,
Speaker 1: we'll see. It's notable that they did not go trade
Speaker 1: for Watson when they did, because he literally requested to
Speaker 1: inner to talk with the guy. And I think if
Speaker 1: Watson had been willing to play ball a little quicker,
Speaker 1: it's like their owner was all about I don't think
Speaker 1: they're coaching. That's where he wants to go. And if
Speaker 1: the owner is all about it. If anything too, is
Speaker 1: just you know, built up his trade value here where
Speaker 1: they could move him maybe in a three team deal
Speaker 1: whatever it's going to be. Oh, I see, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: want that. So they would trade for Deshaun Watson and
Speaker 1: then get a huge like a nice bundle back for two.
Speaker 1: You're getting rewarded for bringing Watson on you. That's just
Speaker 1: what these deals. And I just want to say, the
Speaker 1: the All Pro Turf team, well, I don't know what
Speaker 1: they're doing down there at hard Rock Stadium, but that
Speaker 1: is a gorgeous natural turf. Why can't everybody else do that?
Speaker 1: I guess maybe it's the climate that the climate helps
Speaker 1: to sea. Just take a look at if you want
Speaker 1: to go back and take a look at a thirty
Speaker 1: three ten win over the Panthers, just to see what
Speaker 1: perfect turf looks like. I don't. All right, let's move on.
Speaker 1: Nice job there for the old maintenance grew groundskeeping. I
Speaker 1: thought you were going to congratulate yourself for that comment
Speaker 1: from it, but then you went, there's actually a good
Speaker 1: job I made to notice the small things. So now
Speaker 1: we've done that, Thank you, Paul. Finally, the Jaguars at
Speaker 1: the Rams slaughter. Uh, this is the perfect opponent for
Speaker 1: the ram Put it this way, Greg, if the Rams
Speaker 1: do not beat the ever living crap out of the Jaguars,
Speaker 1: that whole thing's going up in flames. You might as
Speaker 1: well have bats take over the stadium because the Rams
Speaker 1: won't need it anymore because they will be moribund. I'm
Speaker 1: not too worried about that. I do worry when they
Speaker 1: like trailing games. They're weirdly not built for that because
Speaker 1: their defense gives up these long drives, like their twenty
Speaker 1: nine and yards per you know, plays per drive. So
Speaker 1: it's like when they trail, suddenly the other teams holding
Speaker 1: onto the ball forever, and then Matthew Stafford gets a
Speaker 1: little panicky. There shouldn't be trailing in this game. I
Speaker 1: think it's perfect to work some of the things out.
Speaker 1: I still think they have so much talent offensively that
Speaker 1: they have plenty of time to get it ready. It's
Speaker 1: like we make these sweeping judgments all all these teams
Speaker 1: that have totally reversed course, like the Miami Dolphins, or
Speaker 1: you know, teams that have flipped like the Rams, Like,
Speaker 1: just as many teams are gonna do that the other way,
Speaker 1: around over the next five or six weeks, and I
Speaker 1: think the Rams have shown that they can do that.
Speaker 1: I just there's just a little you know, the game
Speaker 1: management from McVeigh bothers me. The fact that Sony Michelle's
Speaker 1: returning kicks. I mean, what is going on here? It's
Speaker 1: a specialty. You gotta get one thing. I'm looking. I'm
Speaker 1: looking at Odell and I know he had the touchdown. No,
Speaker 1: he's banged up, he's got the pointer. I want to
Speaker 1: see in a game like this with a positive set
Speaker 1: up in terms of the opponent. He really needs to
Speaker 1: be a part of that offense. He was targeted, I
Speaker 1: believe ten times. Yeah, so they're doing every and he
Speaker 1: made the big playdown field, but otherwise was you know,
Speaker 1: most of the cutaways to him. He was in a
Speaker 1: lot of pain on the sideline. He really needs to
Speaker 1: be the guy that number two. And this would be
Speaker 1: a good spot to either establish that, oh, I'm a
Speaker 1: part of this offense. Now I'm productive, or maybe he's
Speaker 1: limping around and holding his back the whole game. We'll
Speaker 1: see this is uh, you know, it's time to really
Speaker 1: work him and involve him, make him a real part
Speaker 1: of the offense. I know you're looking forward to that mark.
Speaker 1: I am looking forward to it, cannot wait to see it.
Speaker 1: But I mean it's just an exist like it's just
Speaker 1: a case in pointed. Oh b J and Robert Woods
Speaker 1: are not serving the same function inside that attack. I
Speaker 1: think they really miss Woods. We've talked about that. You've
Speaker 1: got to You've got to take care of business here
Speaker 1: in a decisive fashion after three terrible weeks. I mean
Speaker 1: the Jaguars, I think there are like maybe three more
Speaker 1: losses away from like a Heaven's Gate scenario. I mean
Speaker 1: they are a mess. Um all right, that's a week thirteen.
Speaker 1: I believe I didn't leave anybody out right. I think
Speaker 1: we've got everybody, uh, four teams in right. Um? Now, Ricky,
Speaker 1: do you know you are a are pop culture consigliari? Um?
Speaker 1: Do you know if there's a bad boy in BTS?
Speaker 1: You know? How Ye, there's one like rapper in in
Speaker 1: the group. I do not know his name. Why do
Speaker 1: you just assume because he's the one that's like in
Speaker 1: all the music videos like how all Like I'm just
Speaker 1: checking bids around him and it's like yeah, yeah, favorite
Speaker 1: bad boy um boyband member. And I had Lukisha help
Speaker 1: me out with this too. So yeah, Donnie Wallberg and
Speaker 1: kotb A. J McClain, Backstreet Boys, Bobby Brown new addition,
Speaker 1: this is this is this may not surprise you. Lakeisha,
Speaker 1: help me with this one. Romeo from Immature nailed it.
Speaker 1: I think she's accurate. Definitely not something you could have
Speaker 1: pulled right there. Okay, did you know that we never
Speaker 1: even heard of the Immature, never heard of Immature. And
Speaker 1: then Joey fat One from insinc. What was he the
Speaker 1: bad boy? No? Are you kidding me? The one? I mean,
Speaker 1: you weren't around for when they were really popular. Maybe
Speaker 1: then you were like six years old. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: like the biggest die hard INSNCT Justin Timberlake person on
Speaker 1: the pace of this art and it maybe was j C.
Speaker 1: Justin wanted to be the bad boy. And that's when
Speaker 1: Justified came out two thousand ONEES when he sort of
Speaker 1: made his bad boy sort of. You know, Justin was
Speaker 1: the bad boy. He just was the he was just sweet.
Speaker 1: But Joe, I mean, he was like about the whole
Speaker 1: Janet things, I know, bad, bad, look, especially with that
Speaker 1: new Janet talk that just came out. It's a tough
Speaker 1: time sometimes j T. I do have a bad boys story, Like, um,
Speaker 1: my brother Kevin Danger hands is who I would say
Speaker 1: is the bad boy of the hands Is family. We
Speaker 1: were driving, yes, yes he is. That wasn't a drop
Speaker 1: like we were driving on I believe it was the
Speaker 1: four oh five, and um, this is five years ago.
Speaker 1: So and and Danger looks over to his right and
Speaker 1: there he is a J. McClain driving a beamer like
Speaker 1: zooming up on our right. And uh, Kevin rolled down
Speaker 1: the window and he's like hey J and uh he
Speaker 1: just like he threw up deuces and then just accelerated
Speaker 1: like out of you. And it was like, that's a
Speaker 1: bad boy yelling, not bad boy behavior, but you know,
Speaker 1: you got it would be a bit of a problem
Speaker 1: for your brother who's nicknamed himself Danger or someone has
Speaker 1: and he and he were the lesser bad boy in
Speaker 1: your family that there could only be one bad boy, right,
Speaker 1: who's the bad boy of you three? It depends what
Speaker 1: you're what. We're not the most dangerous group of guys.
Speaker 1: I don't know. But if it's like if I wouldn't
Speaker 1: want to mess with one of you, it's probably it's
Speaker 1: probably Gregg. It's like it's like a manipulative like he'll
Speaker 1: take you down like mentally, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Like he'll like destroy you and with what you got,
Speaker 1: and he'll make you like really like, well you don't
Speaker 1: have to do that kind of contemplate your life and
Speaker 1: like if it's worth like waking up in the morning.
Speaker 1: This has turned into a psychiatris. No, I mean, I
Speaker 1: just I really think that you guys, like I don't
Speaker 1: think we have a bit. Sometimes you just really likes
Speaker 1: to put you down. And he makes one of Mark
Speaker 1: shirts and Mark screens and I didn't make fun of
Speaker 1: your Yeah, I only comment I make fun of Mark's
Speaker 1: lock choice this week while I joined it too, which
Speaker 1: we gotta settle that business. Because he mentioned how the
Speaker 1: the Saints Cowboys game was lockable this morning. H well
Speaker 1: it was after Toron arms. Then ram Check and Camara
Speaker 1: are out. So I'll just join Mark because I have
Speaker 1: no shade. I gotta where that happened. I gotta catch
Speaker 1: a bird and all good luck to you. Well, like
Speaker 1: you guys are really I'm gonna do locking them the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: I'm locking them up. You locked last week again, Eric
Speaker 1: has beating me and she's trying to lose six and
Speaker 1: a half that I haven't wanted three six and a
Speaker 1: half with even it's a game technically, this it's a
Speaker 1: game with rules. If you follow the rules, that's that's
Speaker 1: all you gotta Look, I'm totally good with it. You're
Speaker 1: playing the game rules, all right, that's it. We'll be
Speaker 1: back on Sunday night with the flagship program. Him uh so,
Speaker 1: make sure you're there for that, and thank you to everybody,
Speaker 1: and have a great weekend and blah blah blah blah
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah bats. Let's trying to get
Speaker 1: the hell out of here before the insurrection takes Holt
Speaker 1: hopefully see you Sunday. What a mess he the call