Speaker 1: Hey everyone, Welcome back to On Purpose, the number one
Speaker 1: health podcast in the world. Thanks to each and every
Speaker 1: one of you that come back every week to listen,
Speaker 1: learn and grow. Now. I love giving you an inside
Speaker 1: look at some of my favorite conversations, ones where I
Speaker 1: felt like I've been really in the zone. And today's
Speaker 1: one is a conversation with a guest that you loved recently,
Speaker 1: Vision Laciani, the author of the six Phase Meditation method.
Speaker 1: For those of you that love that one, I think
Speaker 1: this one's going to be a huge one for you.
Speaker 1: We talk about everything from ego through to compassion, forgiveness,
Speaker 1: and mindfulness. Please do not miss this conversation and share
Speaker 1: it with a friend as well. I really hope that
Speaker 1: it uplifts and inspires you today. Thank you so much
Speaker 1: for listening. Jets. You know, out of some two hundred
Speaker 1: speakers last year in mind Value was awarded based on
Speaker 1: audience data, is the best speaker at mind Value US
Speaker 1: all seminars, all festivals, all events for the entire year
Speaker 1: of twenty eighteen. But what is also really wonderful to
Speaker 1: say about Jay is that in today's squirrel and this
Speaker 1: is something that lights me up in today's world, the
Speaker 1: number one personality on Facebook is not a Kadashian or
Speaker 1: a politician. It is Jay Setti, a monk, a monk
Speaker 1: former monk who makes wisdom go viral. Jay Setty's videos
Speaker 1: have been viewed four billion times, four billion times. Right,
Speaker 1: But and this is since he started in twenty sixteen
Speaker 1: January twenty sixteen. But here's the crazy thing. Three billion
Speaker 1: of that four billion happened in just the last twelve months.
Speaker 1: And his growth is exponential and growing, and he, perhaps
Speaker 1: more than almost anyone else I personally know, is helping
Speaker 1: create a world where wisdom becomes viral and something that
Speaker 1: you really want to consume. Jay, welcome to mind Value again.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Vision, Thank you so much. Thank you to
Speaker 1: all of you. I'm so grateful, Thank you. I'm so
Speaker 1: grateful and touched to be he Thank you for the opportunity, Vision,
Speaker 1: and thank you to all of you for being here
Speaker 1: as well. Thank you for being here when you could
Speaker 1: be anywhere in the world, you chose to be sitting
Speaker 1: on net Sea. So let's start with the opening question. Jane,
Speaker 1: you learned so much and you just got back from
Speaker 1: meditating an India in an ushroom. You know you're constantly
Speaker 1: evolving yourself. What would be some words of advice you
Speaker 1: would give to the people in this room. That's a
Speaker 1: big question. So I take out twenty one to thirty
Speaker 1: days every year to go and live back with the
Speaker 1: monks where I used to live in India. So I
Speaker 1: lived in a monk for three years, and every day
Speaker 1: I made it a priority to continue my meditation practice,
Speaker 1: which is currently two hours a day. It's been that
Speaker 1: way for the last thirteen years. It's been the bedrock
Speaker 1: and foundation of my life. So to that very big
Speaker 1: question that vision asked me, my first piece of advice
Speaker 1: would be finding your daily rituals, finding your daily habits,
Speaker 1: finding your practices that act as the foundation. Because we're
Speaker 1: living in such busy, hectic, crazy times. How many of
Speaker 1: you know that you have a schedule and still half
Speaker 1: of the things don't happen on that schedule, right? Anyone
Speaker 1: ever been in that position? Or how many of you
Speaker 1: go through that process where you start watching something really
Speaker 1: educational on YouTube and then two videos later you're watching
Speaker 1: something about Justin Bieber's mum, right, and it's like and
Speaker 1: then and then you're like, how did how did I
Speaker 1: get there? Like? How did that happen, and you end
Speaker 1: up getting lost in this world. And so whether it's
Speaker 1: in a small way of getting lost through the content
Speaker 1: you know, rabbit hole, or whether it's getting lost by
Speaker 1: getting distracted from what's really meaningful to you. For me,
Speaker 1: refining my intentions on a daily basis is one of
Speaker 1: my favorite favorite habits. And so what I do every
Speaker 1: day is I'll look at the plethora of options that
Speaker 1: I have available, all of the things, whether it's deals, ideas, thoughts, projects, offers,
Speaker 1: whatever it is, and on top of all of them,
Speaker 1: I'll write down why I would do that, and if
Speaker 1: the reason is often ego, pride, envy, competition, jealousy, and
Speaker 1: sometimes it's compassion, love, joy, passion, purpose, meaning fulfillment. And
Speaker 1: so what I like to do is I like to
Speaker 1: refine my intentions, which I class as seeds and weeds
Speaker 1: every day. So I want to plant more seeds in
Speaker 1: the guard of my life, seeds of things that are
Speaker 1: like compassion, love, purpose fulfillment, meaning, joy, service, and weeds
Speaker 1: are when we do things out of ego, envy, competition.
Speaker 1: And so every day I'm plucking out the weeds out
Speaker 1: of my life and I'm trying to plant more seeds.
Speaker 1: How many of you want to be gardeners with me? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And I do that every day because it's so easy
Speaker 1: for me to confuse the weeds as seeds. It's so
Speaker 1: often that I've let ego grow so strong inside of
Speaker 1: me and took me forever to notice that was a weed.
Speaker 1: So I have to do every day. So that's one
Speaker 1: of my biggest piece of advice. I do it every
Speaker 1: single day. It's made a huge difference in making sure
Speaker 1: I make the right choices, the right decisions with people,
Speaker 1: places and projects that I'm involved in. When you refine
Speaker 1: their intention and it gets pure and pure and pure,
Speaker 1: and not that we're ever fully pure, but it gets
Speaker 1: pure and pure and purer. You'll just see magic happen
Speaker 1: around you. So many things will open up, things that
Speaker 1: you never emagine. So you have the answer to your question,
Speaker 1: but it does, and I'll just opens up so many
Speaker 1: other questions. He said, you get you try to get
Speaker 1: your intention purer and purer. And it sounds to me
Speaker 1: like what you're saying is you're going for the feeling
Speaker 1: that it's giving you joy, bliss, passion. Right How far
Speaker 1: ahead are you looking? Are you looking at your intentions
Speaker 1: for a day, for a week, for a month, for
Speaker 1: a year. I look at intentions from places that I go,
Speaker 1: people that I spend time with, projects that I'm involved in,
Speaker 1: so in every one of those areas, and that includes
Speaker 1: everything from what I'm doing right now by being here
Speaker 1: so I'm with all of you. So I planted a
Speaker 1: seed of an intention that I wanted to come here
Speaker 1: to be of service to all of you all the
Speaker 1: way through to what do I want to be doing
Speaker 1: in twelve months. I usually don't make plans for longer
Speaker 1: than twelve months because the world change is so fast
Speaker 1: and everything else, So that's usually as far ahead I
Speaker 1: think of that, you know my vision? Do you ever
Speaker 1: get intentions like binge? Watch Game of Thrones twenty four
Speaker 1: hours straight and then judge yourself for having that intention.
Speaker 1: So I was with someone that I was coaching yesterday
Speaker 1: and they said to me, says, Jay, be real with me, right,
Speaker 1: you know everyone always likes self, like, be real with me, Like,
Speaker 1: don't give me the monk cancer. You know it's only
Speaker 1: my sister says to me, don't go monk on me.
Speaker 1: J Eddy, Like, uh, you know, I don't want to
Speaker 1: hear another video my my my wife, and my sister
Speaker 1: do that often to me. So someone asked me yesterday,
Speaker 1: like be real with me, like what do you do
Speaker 1: when you just want to, you know, let go. So
Speaker 1: the honest answer is, I grew up in London. I'm
Speaker 1: a huge soccer fan or real football. And yes, finally
Speaker 1: someone says it on our stage. I never understood you Americans.
Speaker 1: It's not. I absolutely love football, and my favorite thing
Speaker 1: to do is play PlayStation with my buddies and play FIFA.
Speaker 1: I can do that for hours and hours and hours,
Speaker 1: and I'm pretty good too, So if anyone wants to
Speaker 1: play me a game of FIFA, I'm always up. That's yeah,
Speaker 1: I do. I do get that, And that's probably one
Speaker 1: of the there's two things I love in that sort
Speaker 1: of in that category, it's playing plays I'm playing Fifa,
Speaker 1: and the second is movies. I'm a huge fan of movies.
Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan of Christopher Nolan, specifically because of
Speaker 1: the stories that he writes and the movies he brings
Speaker 1: to life. So I love movies that help me learn
Speaker 1: and have messages inside them because I believe that movies
Speaker 1: have the power to shift culture and shift conversation. So
Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by the power of media and movies. So
Speaker 1: I love consuming that content because it gives me more
Speaker 1: ideas and inspiration. And I truly believe that we're defined
Speaker 1: by the stories we tell ourselves. So when we see
Speaker 1: new stories through movies and media, I see changes in
Speaker 1: culture happening. FIFA, I can't justify, so that I just
Speaker 1: have to that I just have to take. So we
Speaker 1: want to keep the questions spiritual and deep but also real. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like, like, you just insulted Americans football football, But
Speaker 1: you say you spend twenty eight days of the year
Speaker 1: in ushram in India. Yes, okay, and you're like one
Speaker 1: of the most Like you're becoming one of the most
Speaker 1: famous teachers on the planet. What do you do with
Speaker 1: that ushram? Do you check Facebook or Instagram while you're there?
Speaker 1: Good question. So I read an incredible study that changed
Speaker 1: the way I create and think, and it said that
Speaker 1: the human mind can't be logical and creative at the
Speaker 1: same time. How many of you have ever walked from
Speaker 1: a highly creative brainstorm where you were fueled with passion
Speaker 1: and then had to talk about numbers and business and right,
Speaker 1: it's tough, right, anyone ever found that quite difficult. It's
Speaker 1: quite challenging, and the mind's like trying to run from
Speaker 1: one side of the brain to the other side of
Speaker 1: the brain. So what I do is I create in depth.
Speaker 1: So I got really deep into my creation and then
Speaker 1: I got really deep into everything else that I have
Speaker 1: to do. So before I went to India, I created
Speaker 1: my content in advance, and so when I was in India,
Speaker 1: I was able to really switch off. So the beauty
Speaker 1: of being able to be in India for twenty one
Speaker 1: or thirty days, or wherever I am in the world
Speaker 1: for that matter, I'm then not having to think of
Speaker 1: creativity as stress or pressure. I'm able to do creativity
Speaker 1: as a form of passion and service. And so when
Speaker 1: I was in India, I was able to not look
Speaker 1: at Instagram, I was able to not look at face work.
Speaker 1: I was able to completely switch off for twenty one
Speaker 1: days when I was there earlier in January, and I
Speaker 1: started my year and the way I wanted to. So
Speaker 1: I was meditating for eight hours a day. I was
Speaker 1: spending time with my teachers who are mind blowing and
Speaker 1: incredible and trying to learn from them and take in
Speaker 1: knowledge and wisdom from them and continuously praying to be
Speaker 1: of more service this year and make a difference this year.
Speaker 1: So that's how I chose to spend my January. I
Speaker 1: had so many people saying to me. They were just like, Jay,
Speaker 1: it's January. Things are going well in your career. How
Speaker 1: can you take twenty one days off right? That pressure,
Speaker 1: that noise like things are going good for you? How
Speaker 1: can you take time off hows like things are going good?
Speaker 1: Because I'm doing this all right? Like you know, I
Speaker 1: had one of my teachers that has kept saying to
Speaker 1: me for years. He goes, if you want to move
Speaker 1: three steps forward, you have to go three steps deep.
Speaker 1: And so if I'm not going forward, I know it's
Speaker 1: because I haven't gone deep. So for me, that's a
Speaker 1: big priority for me. And that's what I try and
Speaker 1: do and I'm I try and do that every day.
Speaker 1: But I also believe in immersive experiences. So a lot
Speaker 1: of us today we live in this world which is
Speaker 1: like ten minutes to day. Do it for ten minutes today,
Speaker 1: everything will be great. And that is great, there's nothing
Speaker 1: wrong with that. But imagine you spent with a boy
Speaker 1: or girl, your partner, whoever it was someone that you
Speaker 1: just started dating. Imagine you spent ten minutes a day
Speaker 1: with them. How long would it take you to figure
Speaker 1: out whether you wanted to fall in love with them
Speaker 1: or not? Probably a long time. And so when you
Speaker 1: go immersive, you spend a weekend away with someone you
Speaker 1: know whether you like them or not. In meditation, mindfulness,
Speaker 1: all these habits are the same. The more you immerse yourself,
Speaker 1: the more you get an experience that stays with you,
Speaker 1: the more that you can live with that experience and
Speaker 1: keep going back to it for ten minutes a day.
Speaker 1: So I really believe in immersive experiences. I love the
Speaker 1: ten minute a day advice, but I also deeply believe
Speaker 1: in having an deep, immersive, absorbed experience that completely takes
Speaker 1: over your whole body, mind, and soul, and then you're
Speaker 1: able to carry that forever. So I try and do
Speaker 1: that once a year. That's amazing, beautifully said, thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you so much, thank you. So you're a monk,
Speaker 1: I used to be. I'm married now, okay, but you
Speaker 1: still go back to montitude or whatever they call it,
Speaker 1: mongtitude like monk refresher course. So the monks are not
Speaker 1: very good at branding as you. So, so when you're
Speaker 1: there hanging out with these other monks, do they like
Speaker 1: ask you to teach them how to do Instagram or like, like,
Speaker 1: what how do other monks relate to you when you
Speaker 1: go back to the ushroom. One of the things I
Speaker 1: love to be with the monks again is that they
Speaker 1: don't care, like, they have no agenda, they have no desire,
Speaker 1: they don't want to learn anything about what I'm up to.
Speaker 1: And I love that because I get to switch off
Speaker 1: from that identity too, And it's beautiful to be able
Speaker 1: to let go of every identity that you've taken on
Speaker 1: and then just be. And so when I go there
Speaker 1: and I'm able to remove any identity that is attached
Speaker 1: to my ego, any identity that's attached to who I
Speaker 1: think I've become, et ceterates, it's nice to be humbled again.
Speaker 1: It's nice to be it's nice to be not noticed
Speaker 1: for a particular thing, but be dealt with in a
Speaker 1: human way and a completely human connection. So yeah, no,
Speaker 1: they don't they don't care about Instagram. So that's amazing. Now,
Speaker 1: I notice you have a tattoo on your net. I do.
Speaker 1: And I noticed that there's even a Facebook group called
Speaker 1: what is Jay Shatty's tattoo? I'm serious, there's a Facebook
Speaker 1: group dedicated to his tattoo. That's how big this guy
Speaker 1: is getting. Soon there'll be Facebook groups for your ankles,
Speaker 1: your left thumb. It's gonna get weird. Jay, deal with fame,
Speaker 1: But what the hell is that tattoo? So it can
Speaker 1: be yeah, you know, I'm gonna I'll tell the story
Speaker 1: about it. I got my first tattoo when I was
Speaker 1: sixteen years old, and I never asked my parents for permission.
Speaker 1: I went and got it, came home, I was bleeding slightly,
Speaker 1: and it happened to be on the same day we
Speaker 1: had family visiting from India. And for anyone who knows
Speaker 1: anything about Indian families like respect to like elders and family,
Speaker 1: it's important and there's a good values. But I walk
Speaker 1: in with my neck like half bleeding, and I have
Speaker 1: this tattoo. In my family, my mom is just like, like,
Speaker 1: you know, she's completely shocked, and my dad's like covering
Speaker 1: it up, cover it up, like trying to get me
Speaker 1: a college here anyway. So I used to be a
Speaker 1: huge fan of spoken word and rap music going up,
Speaker 1: growing up, I've always loved language and words, and so
Speaker 1: I was a huge fan of hip hop and spoken words.
Speaker 1: So I have a fist holding a microphone on my
Speaker 1: neck because it used to be the logo of the
Speaker 1: Source magazine in the nineteen nineties, which is one of
Speaker 1: the biggest hip hop magazines of its time. And I
Speaker 1: remember getting it done at sixteen and a lot of
Speaker 1: people would be like, what's that on your neck and
Speaker 1: I'd say it's a microphone and they'd be like, oh, cool,
Speaker 1: what are you doing. I'd say i'd spoken word and
Speaker 1: rap and they said, oh, you should perform at our club.
Speaker 1: So it was so we know, I've never been asked
Speaker 1: about that on stage, and we're like, how useful is
Speaker 1: this information to anyone? Are we at mind Valley? Are
Speaker 1: we at tattoo Parlor? I mean I don't know. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: But you know what it's it's so nice to get
Speaker 1: to to also learn about the real you. There's so
Speaker 1: much wisdom from Jay out there. We wanted to bring
Speaker 1: in some of your realness because I know you as
Speaker 1: a friend and you're like just epically cool. So we'd
Speaker 1: love to take some questions from the audience. Okay, now
Speaker 1: here are the rules. When we do panels like this,
Speaker 1: I try to make sure that the question that is
Speaker 1: asked is a question that is going to serve at
Speaker 1: least seventy percent of the people in the room. Okay,
Speaker 1: so we have a question for Jay, raise your hand,
Speaker 1: and we have Mike run as Ready, let's start with
Speaker 1: shaman Drek. So you know, one of the things that
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask is not want to get your
Speaker 1: viewpoint on it, because in Shamanism we have this viewpoint
Speaker 1: that spirituality is not separate from life. It means it's
Speaker 1: someone who's spiritual, even if they don't meditate or work
Speaker 1: with crystals or learning of these things, it means they're
Speaker 1: willing to evolve. I want to know what your thought
Speaker 1: is about that. Yeah, I completely agree. I think that's
Speaker 1: beautiful and completely aligns with me. I don't think See,
Speaker 1: we look at everything about oh what can I learn?
Speaker 1: And actually half of learning, in my opinion, is really unlearning.
Speaker 1: Everyone already has the answer inside of them. You're not
Speaker 1: really learning anything new. You're just trying to get rid
Speaker 1: of all the bad lessons you learned, and everyone has that.
Speaker 1: So it's not so much about like, oh is this
Speaker 1: person going from here to here. It's not really that.
Speaker 1: It's like it's someone going from here to here. And
Speaker 1: for me, one of the ways I've always thought about
Speaker 1: is you can't take the world further than where you
Speaker 1: visited internally. So for me, every person that we're meeting
Speaker 1: already has that journey right there, and all you're asking
Speaker 1: them to do is look inwards as opposed to outwards.
Speaker 1: So no, I've completely agree with you, and I think
Speaker 1: that's a beautiful point that you've shared, and I think
Speaker 1: it's something nice for us to know. So we don't
Speaker 1: judge and label people. We don't walk around and think, oh,
Speaker 1: those are spiritual people, those are not spiritual people, because yeah,
Speaker 1: we're all we're all spiritual people, and it's just that
Speaker 1: some are covered. It's like the sun's always out, but
Speaker 1: often it's covered with the clouds. Rarely here a bit
Speaker 1: more lately, but it's the sun is always out, it's
Speaker 1: just get covered by the clouds, and that's us. We've
Speaker 1: just been covered. And we get covered by those clouds
Speaker 1: and they cloud our identity, they cloud our perception. And
Speaker 1: so all we're doing for ourselves and others is clearing
Speaker 1: out the clouds and the more we do that for ourselves,
Speaker 1: the more we can do it for others. And the
Speaker 1: more we do it for others, and the more we
Speaker 1: do it for ourselves. And is meditation the only process
Speaker 1: that you used to clear out the clouds or is
Speaker 1: there other things that you explore? I think meditation today
Speaker 1: is a tool, and it's a great tool in your
Speaker 1: tool kit, But it's really about how we're processing the
Speaker 1: whole time, how we're living the whole time outside of that.
Speaker 1: And so when I do two hours of meditation a day,
Speaker 1: that my teachers would always say to me, or what
Speaker 1: are you doing for the other twenty two hours you're awake? Right?
Speaker 1: That would always be the question. And so I read
Speaker 1: a study recently that said that men and women were
Speaker 1: asked either to sit alone with their thoughts for fifteen minutes,
Speaker 1: or if they didn't want to do that, they could
Speaker 1: give themselves an electric shark. Is a true study. Sixty
Speaker 1: percent of men chose an electric shark, true story, and
Speaker 1: thirty percent of women chose an electric shark. These are real, normal,
Speaker 1: more people. And when they were asked why they did that,
Speaker 1: they just said, I don't think, I said, what am
Speaker 1: I going to do? For fifteen minutes, and so for me,
Speaker 1: meditation is an important part of the cloud, but it's
Speaker 1: also reflection, introspection, journaling, the ability to have a connection
Speaker 1: that's deeper than you, sitting down with people who can
Speaker 1: help you move the clouds because it's not always you
Speaker 1: on your own. You need others to come in and
Speaker 1: help you do that. So it's multiple things. It's multiple things.
Speaker 1: I think meditations are a key facet of it, but
Speaker 1: not the be all and end all of it. So
Speaker 1: we noticed that you speak a lot about relationships, a
Speaker 1: large proportion of the videos on relationships. And I'm just
Speaker 1: going to be asked this question, but you did have
Speaker 1: training as a monk, and normally when monks give it
Speaker 1: vison relationship, it's simply two words, don't screw. Why Where
Speaker 1: does that interest in relationships come from? My fascination comes
Speaker 1: from for relationships from having failed a lots of relationships.
Speaker 1: So growing up, I had countless relationships that didn't work out,
Speaker 1: and I was always trying to learn, like what does
Speaker 1: love mean? What is love? What is the ideal relationship?
Speaker 1: Why didn't that work out with that person, etc. So
Speaker 1: I was constantly reflecting and then when I became a monk. Obviously,
Speaker 1: I was celibate for three years and didn't have any
Speaker 1: relationships during that time, and at that time a lot
Speaker 1: of people would come and complain to me about their relationships.
Speaker 1: It's really funny when people do that. It's like, you're
Speaker 1: not married, you will know what to do in my life.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, it doesn't work that way. So,
Speaker 1: and I was always fascinated by I was getting asked
Speaker 1: so many questions about relationships, and I was like, well,
Speaker 1: I don't have any real life experience of figuring it out.
Speaker 1: So when I left and when I met my wife,
Speaker 1: and now that we've been together for six years and
Speaker 1: married for three years, I was always reflecting on why
Speaker 1: things do work with us and the parts that we
Speaker 1: are challenged by. And so for me, it's been a
Speaker 1: personal journey of growth. And so the videos I've made
Speaker 1: have been from personal lessons I've learned from helping others,
Speaker 1: coaching others, and working on my own relationship. And that's
Speaker 1: the trifect around all my videos is I listened to
Speaker 1: someone who shares a challenge with So if you ever
Speaker 1: share a challenge with me, you have to be okay
Speaker 1: with the fact, you may end up as a story
Speaker 1: in one of my videos. I'm just throwing it out there.
Speaker 1: The second thing I try and find is I try
Speaker 1: and find a scientific study to verify what I'm about
Speaker 1: to say as a solution. And the third thing that
Speaker 1: I do is I try and find a piece of
Speaker 1: wisdom that's thousands of years old that also aligns with that.
Speaker 1: So for me, that's what I'm always looking for and
Speaker 1: that's how I create my content because that way I
Speaker 1: can verify through modern science it's timeless wisdom that's been
Speaker 1: true for thousands of years, and at the same time,
Speaker 1: it's based on a real challenge that we're all going through.
Speaker 1: That's amazing. That's amazing. I love how you just broke
Speaker 1: that down. Now, let's take an question from the audience.
Speaker 1: If you have a question, So I have the learning question. Yes,
Speaker 1: how do you relate how have you related to deep
Speaker 1: spiritual learnings and at the same time being happy and
Speaker 1: content in the material world without going crazy? Interesting question.
Speaker 1: I think that's this point of spiritual training. So it's
Speaker 1: like when when we're immature in our spiritual learning, we're
Speaker 1: just starting out. When you first learned the first everyone
Speaker 1: remember the first time they learned something and they're like,
Speaker 1: I'm never talking to my family ever again. Right. It's
Speaker 1: like because because you learn a little bit and you go,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I've been doing it all wrong, and
Speaker 1: now I can't talk to that person, I can't ever
Speaker 1: go to that event again. And you start making all
Speaker 1: these big decisions based on something small that you've learned.
Speaker 1: And so I think in the beginning of our lives,
Speaker 1: because to protect ourselves, which is a very normal desire
Speaker 1: and very good and very human, we think, Okay, I
Speaker 1: need to take care of this, so now I'm going
Speaker 1: to shut out from all of this. But as we grow,
Speaker 1: we've realized we can give more back. And so one
Speaker 1: of the ways I've always thought about it is if
Speaker 1: you look at the ocean and you see someone drowning,
Speaker 1: you want to help them. But if you go in
Speaker 1: too soon and you're not strong enough, it's likely that
Speaker 1: you're going to get pulled in. And at that point
Speaker 1: it's easier to shout out to a lifeguard who can
Speaker 1: come along, who's trained, who's discipline, who's committed, who can
Speaker 1: go and make a difference. And so for me in
Speaker 1: my life, I'm always looking at if I can't bring
Speaker 1: someone up, I'm not going to spend time with them
Speaker 1: if they're going to pull me down. And it's drawing
Speaker 1: that line for me. So if I've been ever scared
Speaker 1: about my spiritual rather than putting them down and going, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm not spending time with them because I'm putting them down.
Speaker 1: If I can't lift them up, then I'm going to
Speaker 1: protect myself by not being dragged down. But if I
Speaker 1: can pull them up, if I can lift them up,
Speaker 1: then that's when I'm able to go into that space
Speaker 1: and make an impact, to make a difference. And that
Speaker 1: line has really helped me not go crazy because now
Speaker 1: I'm not doing it based on a judgment of them.
Speaker 1: I'm reflecting on my own abilities and flaws and the
Speaker 1: difference I can make, and I'm taking a stance. It's
Speaker 1: like someone asked me the other day, what is a
Speaker 1: complaint when we were talking about litter. A complaint is
Speaker 1: you see a piece of trash on the floor and
Speaker 1: you go, oh, la is so dirty. You've removed the
Speaker 1: agency that you can have an impact on that. A
Speaker 1: statement is oh la is a bit dirty, there's trash
Speaker 1: and flow. I'm going to pick that up and throw
Speaker 1: it away right, taking that responsibility. So when we're irresponsible
Speaker 1: in our spiritual lives, we judge everyone and judge everything,
Speaker 1: and we're mature, we start looking at through compassion, empathy
Speaker 1: and connection and recognize we were just there a few
Speaker 1: years ago. And that's the biggest anchor in my life
Speaker 1: is recognizing that I was addicted to and still am
Speaker 1: in different ways things that I don't believe are good
Speaker 1: for me spiritually. And I was that guy. I was
Speaker 1: that kid, you know, And it's taken a journey and
Speaker 1: someone had to believe in me, someone had to invest
Speaker 1: in me, someone had to reach their hand without being
Speaker 1: forced in and pull me out. And so that allows
Speaker 1: me to continue to operate in the world. I hope
Speaker 1: to answer to your question, thank you, Thank so Jay.
Speaker 1: When I saw you speak at Wisdom two point old
Speaker 1: last weekend, you got on stage and you quoted Martin
Speaker 1: Luther King. It was a quote on justice love and
Speaker 1: a big team of this event has been MLK his
Speaker 1: vision for justice as the application of power to remove
Speaker 1: all obstacles of love. We just had Mary and Williamson
Speaker 1: take the stage and talk about the importance of standing
Speaker 1: up of activism. What are your views on this, So
Speaker 1: I want to approach it from from a slightly different
Speaker 1: angle as well. How many of you spend a lot
Speaker 1: of your day's multitasking? Okay, good, So a lot of
Speaker 1: us spend out time multitasking. Now, studies show that only
Speaker 1: two percent of us are actually able to multitask. And
Speaker 1: when most people hear that, they're like, yeah, I'm in
Speaker 1: that two percent. That's me, all right, I'm in that
Speaker 1: two percent. You're probably not. I'm not because it's only
Speaker 1: two percent of the global population of the world. Multitasking
Speaker 1: is a myth. And I find that as spiritual activists,
Speaker 1: as conscious change makers, as change agents of the world,
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call yourself, all of us. One
Speaker 1: of the biggest mistakes we've seen, and this was a
Speaker 1: quote that I shared and a thought from Martin is
Speaker 1: the king that I've really held close to me is
Speaker 1: he said, those who love peace need to learn to
Speaker 1: organize themselves as well as those who love war. Right,
Speaker 1: those who love peace need to learn to organize themselves
Speaker 1: as well as those who love war. I e. People
Speaker 1: who are trying to build destruction in the world and
Speaker 1: distractions in the world are highly organized, highly focused highly
Speaker 1: data oriented, highly strategic, highly process driven. And so we
Speaker 1: have to be the same. And when you spend time
Speaker 1: with a vision, you spend time with the Mind Valley team,
Speaker 1: you realize their success is intuitive, it is deep, it
Speaker 1: is full of love, but it is also highly strategic.
Speaker 1: It is also highly focused, and therefore it's effective. And
Speaker 1: so for me, my plea to all of you and
Speaker 1: to myself is, whatever we're going to do, let's get
Speaker 1: really strategic about it. Let's bring sincerity and strategy together.
Speaker 1: Let's bring data and dynamism together. Let's bring intuition and
Speaker 1: insight together. Right, Let's not look beyond that and think, oh,
Speaker 1: that stuff's going to work out because I intend my intentions. Nice. Right,
Speaker 1: Your intention is not gonna run a mile, but it
Speaker 1: will help you run the marathon, but it's not going
Speaker 1: to run that mile that you need to do right now.
Speaker 1: And so for me, intention and action, intention and attention,
Speaker 1: both of them are required. And so my recommendation is,
Speaker 1: whatever your dream is, whatever you're inspired by, whatever you
Speaker 1: think is going to have a positive impact on the world,
Speaker 1: bring both to that, right, don't settle for one or
Speaker 1: the other. Thank you and what you said so relates
Speaker 1: to Marion Williamson, who was here just two hours ago,
Speaker 1: who said we need to wage peace as effectively as
Speaker 1: people wage war. So thank you for that connection to
Speaker 1: a big theme of this event. Let's take another question
Speaker 1: from the audience. I hope I'm not boring you, by
Speaker 1: the way. Hello, yes, ye Sunita. Here. Firstly, I have
Speaker 1: to say I put up a vision board of both
Speaker 1: of you just about a year back, say meet j
Speaker 1: Setty and feel inspired to inspire the world, and meet
Speaker 1: Vis Shane to lift humanity forward. Because what you both
Speaker 1: are doing is so amazing and today's my dream come true.
Speaker 1: I'm seeing both of you on the stage. So that's
Speaker 1: I just wanted to say, and my thank you. Wait wait, wait, wait,
Speaker 1: let's let's do something. Come on stage. Let's get a
Speaker 1: picture with us both. Come on stage. My team will
Speaker 1: take a picture and we'll make sure it gets to you. Okay,
Speaker 1: you're gonna stand directly here, and you're gonna ask the
Speaker 1: question directly here. Okay, that's me. That's okay, Look at
Speaker 1: the camera, stand in the middle, look at the camera.
Speaker 1: Only nice to thank you now now now now you
Speaker 1: can stick that on your basion board. Now, what was
Speaker 1: your questions. Nita. By the way, I flew all the
Speaker 1: way from Singapore for this. So my question is, um,
Speaker 1: you know, we're all we go through this transformational journey
Speaker 1: and it's very personal. We all start at different timeline.
Speaker 1: But what if we are not able to rally our
Speaker 1: loved ones into this journey, like, for example, your spouse,
Speaker 1: and there is a fear of you outgrowing them, and
Speaker 1: also your loved ones like your parents don't understand your journey,
Speaker 1: your kids don't understand your journey and you're in a
Speaker 1: different path. How do we tackle this because I think
Speaker 1: it's important to bring them along. We can't just leave
Speaker 1: our relationships just because we are growing. Um, So I
Speaker 1: want to know how do we rally them onto this
Speaker 1: journey and open up possibilities for them as well? Absolutely?
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you said so. I think the biggest
Speaker 1: and hardest lesson is that our family and our friends
Speaker 1: will be more inspired by our example than our education.
Speaker 1: They're going to change when they see us change. They're
Speaker 1: going to transform when they see us genuinely transform, They're
Speaker 1: they're they're not fascinated by how much you've learned and
Speaker 1: how much you know and you can do a headstand now,
Speaker 1: and you know you can, you know you can do
Speaker 1: all these chakras and mooders, and you know all these
Speaker 1: Sanskrit words, and you know like that that doesn't move
Speaker 1: the people that have known you since you were young,
Speaker 1: or I have known you before, and that doesn't make
Speaker 1: an impact on them. What makes an impact in them
Speaker 1: is your example and your transformation and the amount you've changed.
Speaker 1: I remember this was really tough. So someone asked a
Speaker 1: similar question but in a not as nicely as you did.
Speaker 1: You you asked it very respectfully. But I remember when
Speaker 1: when I was in when I was a monk one,
Speaker 1: this question was asked to my teacher, and my teacher
Speaker 1: is actually very compassionate, but this was one of his
Speaker 1: like heavier moments of like it was harsh, but he
Speaker 1: was asked by someone in the crowd. They said him.
Speaker 1: They said, I'm trying so hard to, you know, get
Speaker 1: my family to become spiritual, and I'm doing everything and
Speaker 1: they don't listen to me. And I'm trying really hard
Speaker 1: and it's not working. And I'm like doing this and
Speaker 1: I'm doing that, I'm doing this, I'm teaching them this,
Speaker 1: and I'm taking this and nothing's happening, and my teacher
Speaker 1: said to them, and they were a student of his,
Speaker 1: and my teacher said them, they said, he said, tolerate
Speaker 1: them as I'm tolerating you. And I was like, so
Speaker 1: he actually said, and he's super sweet, Like my teacher
Speaker 1: is like seventy years old, he's been a month for
Speaker 1: forty years. He's amazing. He's one of the sweetest people
Speaker 1: in the world. And he said then I was like, whoa.
Speaker 1: I was like, you just got served. Yeah, like it was.
Speaker 1: It was one of those moments. And you know, he's
Speaker 1: in robes and he says, it really peace for me
Speaker 1: and everything. But the lesson I got from that, the
Speaker 1: lesson I got from that is that someone's done that
Speaker 1: for us, Like someone's inpatiently waiting for me to transform,
Speaker 1: for me to grow, whether it's a mentor or a
Speaker 1: guide or grow a teacher or whatever. It is, like
Speaker 1: there's someone in our life, in any transformation who's also
Speaker 1: waiting for us. So part of it is patience. Patience
Speaker 1: is a huge thing. You're never going to change someone
Speaker 1: or make them do something, and half the time you
Speaker 1: just have to get out of the way. The part
Speaker 1: with patients that works is introduced them to who they're
Speaker 1: inspired by. Don't try and be their inspiration, right, And
Speaker 1: I often say that even in parenting situations, like when
Speaker 1: parents introduce their kids to people they're inspired by, that
Speaker 1: will help the kids more than telling the kids to
Speaker 1: do the right thing. And I've seen that happen so
Speaker 1: often when you look at sports as well, like even
Speaker 1: if your father was the best actor or best sports
Speaker 1: player in the world, or your mother was the best
Speaker 1: tennis player or performer or whatever it is, you're never
Speaker 1: impressed by your parents. Like we're rarely impressed by our
Speaker 1: family when we're younger. We get gratitude later on, but
Speaker 1: in our early days we don't have that. But we
Speaker 1: need to people. So if you can introduce your family
Speaker 1: to people dare inspired by, that's going to make a
Speaker 1: huge difference. And the final one, like I said at
Speaker 1: the start, was just your example. Seeing you really change,
Speaker 1: seeing your behavior, change your language, change your communication change,
Speaker 1: that's going to give them the greatest confidence that you
Speaker 1: know what she's doing is right, it works right. The
Speaker 1: proofs in the pudding, the proofs in seeing you actually
Speaker 1: make that change. Who answers your question, Thank you and
Speaker 1: thank you. Thanks so much. You're all so kind. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so what then, what then is next for Jay Shetty?
Speaker 1: What are you focused on next? Or rather let me
Speaker 1: reprace that question. What are some visions that you have
Speaker 1: for how you are going to serve up the world?
Speaker 1: So thank you. So when I started out, I've started
Speaker 1: this journey thirteen years ago about my video content only
Speaker 1: three years ago. When I started out, I never thought
Speaker 1: it would work. So I had a lot of limiting beliefs.
Speaker 1: I never thought it would get this far. I never
Speaker 1: believed that. I thought I was going to work a
Speaker 1: full time job, come home, spend all my time editing videos,
Speaker 1: and hopefully do this on the weekend. That's how I'd
Speaker 1: envisioned my life. So I'm very grateful for all of
Speaker 1: you who've ever watched, liked, or shared a video. I'm
Speaker 1: extremely touched that you've taken the time to even listen
Speaker 1: to me. And I'm living a very blessed and fortunate life.
Speaker 1: So I come from a place of deep gratitude. And
Speaker 1: now that I've seen what's possible, now on the opposite way,
Speaker 1: and now I'm like, wow, I can't wait. Now, Like
Speaker 1: now I'm really really excited. One of my biggest beliefs.
Speaker 1: And I read a study that inspired my beginning, and
Speaker 1: it was that the most successful people in the world, healthy, wealthy,
Speaker 1: or wise, choose education over entertainment, and the most unsuccessful
Speaker 1: people in the world, unhealthy, unwealthy, or unwise, choose entertainment
Speaker 1: over education. So I made it my mission in life
Speaker 1: to build entertainment first, content with an educational heart. And
Speaker 1: I was thinking, how do we make wisdoms spread at
Speaker 1: the pace people want entertainment. How do we meet people
Speaker 1: where they are so that they can come on a
Speaker 1: journey with us? How do we meet people because guess what,
Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of people will do courses, millions of
Speaker 1: people will come to events, but billions will always watch
Speaker 1: television and network TV and online programming. How do we
Speaker 1: meet people there? So a big part of my vision
Speaker 1: and goal is to create conscious content that will sit
Speaker 1: on all the platforms that everyone binge watches, will be
Speaker 1: extremely entertaining that you won't even know, but it will
Speaker 1: have the most meaningful messages behind it. We will have
Speaker 1: the deepest meaningful messages hidden in the heart of that content.
Speaker 1: And what's happened on social media and what I've been
Speaker 1: able to do on social media. It's proven to me
Speaker 1: that there's an opportunity for that, right. I've read it
Speaker 1: a study two weeks ago in an Ink magazine that
Speaker 1: showed the most viewed videos on social media in twenty
Speaker 1: eighteen and the top five hundred most viewed videos and
Speaker 1: social media in twenty eighteen were all positive. They weren't news,
Speaker 1: they weren't politic, they weren't negative. They were positive videos.
Speaker 1: And that could have been comedy, it could have been
Speaker 1: inspirational stuff, it could have been anything. It doesn't have
Speaker 1: to be motivational inspiration. It was comedic, but positive. That
Speaker 1: was the stuff that was winning. And so for me,
Speaker 1: that's step one. Step one is creating a world where
Speaker 1: all the entertainment we watch, movies, media everywhere is highly
Speaker 1: entertaining but has messages hidden behind it, which I think
Speaker 1: it's already exists. And the second step is then working
Speaker 1: with incredible folk like mind Value and creating the educational
Speaker 1: background to give people a journey to go on. So
Speaker 1: once they're watching something, how did they then go on
Speaker 1: their personal journey of transformation. It's really giving a real pathway,
Speaker 1: giving a real method, which is non judgmental, non sectarian, universal,
Speaker 1: and timeless, so that anyone can find it accessible and practical.
Speaker 1: And that's a really key word, actually making it really practical,
Speaker 1: making it really easy, not making it mystical so that
Speaker 1: people get lost, but making it really practical so that
Speaker 1: people feel like they're handheld. That would be the goal
Speaker 1: making wisdom go viral. Thank you, Jee, thank you, thanks
Speaker 1: so much for sure, thanks so much, thank you, thank
Speaker 1: you so much for listening to today's episode. Make sure
Speaker 1: you tag me with your biggest lessons, your biggest takeaways,
Speaker 1: and biggest insights on Instagram, Twitter, TikTok. I love seeing them.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I'll see you next week.