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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: This season was unlike any other.

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Speaker 3: It was celebrated, it was watched, it was cried over,

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Speaker 3: It's been talked about, and we have one of, if

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Speaker 3: not the most talked about contestant from the season on

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Speaker 3: the show today, Daisy.

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Speaker 2: Welcome.

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Speaker 4: Hi, happy to be here.

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Speaker 5: Hi Daisy. That just made me think. First question is

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Speaker 5: how do you feel about being like the most followed

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Speaker 5: girl from the show in a very long time, the

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Speaker 5: most followed non lead and like the years since, like

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Speaker 5: the Peter season, have we seen this? What do you

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Speaker 5: think it was about you that people were like, I

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Speaker 5: must follow this girl.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's definitely been really exciting, and I think

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Speaker 4: it's my story is really unique, and I think a

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Speaker 4: lot of people related to it that had been through

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Speaker 4: anything health, like any health issues. It was also a

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Speaker 4: really unique time in my life too, because it was

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Speaker 4: pretty new for me to have a cochlear implant and

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Speaker 4: so those like new moments were captured, which I thought

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Speaker 4: was really cool and I'm really production did such a

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Speaker 4: good job too with capturing those So I don't know,

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Speaker 4: I like it was really exciting. I don't necessarily know

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Speaker 4: exactly why it was me, but I'm really grateful for it.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I personally think there's a relatability to you.

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Speaker 3: I also think that you were vulnerable with a mini things,

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Speaker 3: and then I think your style. I think obviously people

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Speaker 3: from the show love to kind of follow what you're

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Speaker 3: wearing and why you're wearing it, and it is one

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Speaker 3: of the interesting and I've never thought about until this season,

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Speaker 3: until you're coming on to day.

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Speaker 2: One of the cool parts about the Bachelor is that.

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Speaker 3: You're wearing these clothes and for the most part, these

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Speaker 3: are clothes that are very accessible to the general public.

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Speaker 3: Right You're not dressed up like a red carpet wearing

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Speaker 3: your five thousand dollars dress so you can show it

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Speaker 3: off one night. These are clothes that you're either like

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Speaker 3: bringing from your closet or maybe going on like a

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Speaker 3: little run to a department store to pick up Have

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Speaker 3: you gotten a lot of like people reaching out wondering

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Speaker 3: you know where you got your clothes from? And my

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Speaker 3: fallow up to this is did you expect to be

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Speaker 4: No? I didn't, And actually I give credit to my

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Speaker 4: friends because when I was going on the show, and

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Speaker 4: they were helping me pack. I had one night where

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Speaker 4: like a few of my closest girlfriends came over a

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Speaker 4: couple days before I left, and we went through every

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Speaker 4: single outfit that I was going to bring on and

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Speaker 4: they made me a list because they were like, Daisy,

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Speaker 4: this is going to be a disaster because we know

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Speaker 4: you if you don't have something to be a little

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Speaker 4: bit organized. So they made me a list of like

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Speaker 4: every single outfit. It was like daytime outfit, but like

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Speaker 4: top and pantsy wear with what shoes, how you should

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Speaker 4: do your hair like they did everything for me. But

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Speaker 4: it was cool to see. But I also tried to

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Speaker 4: dress and like way that I normally dress to express myself.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, it was fun though, and I had a

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Speaker 4: lot of my friend's old prom dresses I wore though

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Speaker 4: I was scavengean.

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Speaker 5: You have had like there already so many things come

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Speaker 5: out about you over the past couple weeks, like rumors, right,

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Speaker 5: so you have this there's this TikTok where you and

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Speaker 5: John Henry are close on the couch and people are

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Speaker 5: speculating that you're dating, and then we you're not, Okay,

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Speaker 5: you're not dating John Henry would you, is there somebody

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Speaker 5: from the Bachelor franchise that you would be interested in.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, not off the top of my head.

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Speaker 4: I'm kind of just doing my thing right now.

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Speaker 6: Honestly, Well, you won't.

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Speaker 5: We know why you don't want to be the bachelorette

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Speaker 5: because you had, you know, you just feel like it

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Speaker 5: wasn't the appropriate role for you. You don't feel like

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Speaker 5: dating like that, you don't feel like hurting people's feelings,

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Speaker 5: you don't feel like being under the emotional and physical

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Speaker 5: stress of it all totally understandable. Would you do Paradise though,

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Speaker 5: because it is a lot more relaxed.

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, you've done Paradise.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Did you like it?

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Speaker 5: Well, I met my husband on it, so yeah, I

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Speaker 3: But it was the biggest advocate. She thinks it's the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think.

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Speaker 6: You'd like I think you'd enjoy Well, you get a

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Speaker 4: Okay, then maybe I'll consider it. But Okay, in this moment,

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Speaker 4: I would have to say no, but I would really Yeah,

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Speaker 6: Did you like not like being on TV?

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Speaker 4: I actually loved it? And I had a really great time.

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Speaker 4: I just think it wasn't I mean, it's hard because,

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Speaker 4: like I don't have anything bad to say about it.

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Speaker 4: I just think I kind of needed a breather from

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Speaker 3: Smart it's you know, I think for jin and we're

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Speaker 3: gonna talk about gen just a little bit. The difficulty

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Speaker 3: with being the Bachelorette is that you really don't have

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Speaker 3: a break.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: With the Bachelor, you get a little break in between.

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Speaker 3: You get some months to kind of breathe get back

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Speaker 3: to your life, see your friends, kind of adjust, hear

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Speaker 3: you kind of get some like you just get used

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Speaker 3: to it a little bit more. I think, Yeah, with

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Speaker 3: the Bachelorette, you're rolling right in to filming and it

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Speaker 3: feels like you haven't been off camera then for six

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Speaker 3: bit to your decision to say, Hey, the Bachelorette is

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Speaker 3: not my role. You said you needed a break from

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Speaker 3: reality television. When you say that, what do you actually mean.

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Speaker 4: I think just the stress of everything too. I think

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Speaker 4: I didn't. Obviously i'd watched The Bachelor, I'll go, but

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Speaker 4: I don't think I understood because when I was watching it,

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Speaker 4: it's a completely different experience when it's you going through

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Speaker 4: it and you're also seeing everything that everyone's staying online,

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Speaker 4: But I think part of the reaction I wasn't expected

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Speaker 4: I have taken enough skin to deal with it. But

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Speaker 4: I think in a way being the Bachelorette too, it

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Speaker 4: and I I just didn't want to get in a

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Speaker 4: that because I am happy, and I haven't always been happy,

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Speaker 4: So I think that was kind of a reason too,

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Speaker 4: if I'm being honest. But I think and also like,

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Speaker 4: time with my family and friends and everyone. But it

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Speaker 4: is hard too because it's like now I'm rambling. I'm like,

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Speaker 4: I know it's a huge opportunity too, but I just

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Speaker 5: So you said this week that production was very nice

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Speaker 5: and accepting of your decision, But do you think that

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Speaker 5: you were like the first person who just really rejected

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Speaker 5: them when they fully play end on you being the bachelorette?

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Speaker 4: I mean I was. I was very open and honest

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Speaker 4: with them through the whole process, and I think they

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Speaker 4: were kind of hoping I was going to do it

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Speaker 4: and turn around you, yeah, because part of me did

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Speaker 4: want to do it, But but no, I feel like

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Speaker 4: there's been other people. I mean, I don't think we

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Speaker 4: But I also think it's hard when you're in that

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Speaker 4: situation because if you would have asked me, like ever

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Speaker 4: what would you say? No? I would be like no,

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Speaker 4: like I'd say yes, yeah. So I don't know. I

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Speaker 4: think it's just weird when you're in that position.

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Speaker 2: It's a it is a unique situation.

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Speaker 4: Do you have a date not doing it? Uh?

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Speaker 2: Not really.

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Speaker 3: I think I teased with them, like I think during

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Speaker 3: want it, and I really don't. Didn't think I knew

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Speaker 3: starts airing on television. Yeah, and once I start airing

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Speaker 2: Weight of anxiety that I felt.

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Speaker 3: But I also for me felt like, quite honestly, my

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Speaker 3: I do understand, though, if you're looking at your life

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Speaker 3: and you're like, there's some other things I'm very excited about.

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Speaker 3: I feel very at peace with where I am personally,

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Speaker 3: then I think it would be an easier decision be

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Speaker 3: like not for me. I also think it's worth noting

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Speaker 3: that it was a different time in the show. When

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Speaker 3: I was on it, right seven years ago, the show

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Speaker 3: was still kind of at its peak, I would say,

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Speaker 3: and your season, well, Joey's season with you on it

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Speaker 3: But it's it's a tough road ahead because people are

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Speaker 3: loving when they watch it. Back then it was more

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Speaker 4: So true, Yeah, definitely.

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Speaker 3: Well, and I think it's really interesting in your because

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Speaker 3: you would have been a very popular choice. I think

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Speaker 3: people would have been ecstatic to watch more of you.

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Speaker 3: I also think, though, there is this level of people

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Speaker 3: get viewer exhaustion, so Jin kind of has the benefit

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Speaker 3: of we don't really know her, and so it's going

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Speaker 3: to be taking a long time for people to get

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Speaker 3: sick of her. They will. It happens every season. It

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Speaker 3: just does at some point, people you know will bring

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Speaker 3: on criticism. But for somebody like you, except for well,

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Speaker 3: but we didn't know Joey going in. It took us

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Speaker 3: we got to know him, it took you know, nobody

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Speaker 2: Yea, as definitely as the Bachelorette.

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Speaker 6: But I feel like.

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Speaker 3: fiance as somebody who is a part of her a

442
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 3: partner to her. You know, the show is still a

443
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 3: piece of their story, but they've moved on from that personally.

444
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 3: And then the show starts airing, and all of a sudden,

445
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 3: your fiance is to the public, sharing you with somebody else,

446
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 3: and no matter what, you're gonna get protective. My sweet wife,

447
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 3: who has not a mean bone in her body, if

448
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 3: there is ever anything said about me personally, she would

449
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 3: lose it, Like there would be a whole different side

450
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 3: of her to come out right. And so I understand

451
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:48,639
Speaker 3: how there is a period there will probably for Kelsey

452
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 3: or for the winner quote unquote, would have all sorts

453
00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 3: of emotions and probably for a bit be resentful towards you,

454
00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 3: even if she still likes you and cares about you.

455
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 2: What would you say to that, Like it.

456
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 3: Walk me through what you think it would feel like

457
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 3: to be the winner in this situation.

458
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:13,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think it would definitely be hard

459
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 4: at times, for sure, And I think it helped that

460
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,640
Speaker 4: we both did have such respect for each other, even

461
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,880
Speaker 4: though at moments it was probably really hard for both

462
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 4: of us. But like at the end of the day, like, yes,

463
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,879
Speaker 4: it was me and her at the end, but it

464
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 4: also like, none of us, neither of us did anything

465
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 4: hurtful to each other. It wasn't it was just it

466
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,160
Speaker 4: was the show, and it was how it came out

467
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 4: and how it was ending. But yeah, I could definitely see,

468
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 4: like being the final person in that scenario how it

469
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 4: would definitely be weird. And I feel like for everyone

470
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:54,119
Speaker 4: who's been in that position, it probably is. It's probably

471
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,119
Speaker 4: something that no one else will ever understand because, like

472
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 4: you said, you do the show, then you're with them

473
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,919
Speaker 4: for a few months, and then you have to like

474
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 4: go back and live it, but also live it through

475
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 4: everyone else watching it. And I think it's more difficult.

476
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,199
Speaker 4: That part's way more difficult, even for me than I

477
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 4: thought it was going to be, like when I was

478
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 4: in it. When I was in it, I had such

479
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 4: a great time. The only time I struggled is when

480
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:19,959
Speaker 4: parts of the season, like when it was airing.

481
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, what was this is random? We're going on a

482
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker 5: different topic right now. What was your take on the

483
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 5: whole Maria Mania.

484
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 4: I just think it was a lot of like big personalities,

485
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,199
Speaker 4: and I think and when you're in a group of

486
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 4: girls with a lot of big personalities, sometimes it doesn't

487
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 4: go well. But I'm friends with a lot of the

488
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 4: girls on the show, and everyone's like friends and made

489
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 4: up for the most part. But yeah, it was crazy.

490
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 4: I remember sitting and watching some of it. I was like,

491
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 4: what is going It's.

492
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 3: Always the best part, and tested it's always the best

493
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,439
Speaker 3: part that you have a front, real seat at the

494
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 3: craziness that's now going to air on national television and

495
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 3: you have like the ticket that nobody can buy and

496
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 3: you can just watch it go down. It's oftentimes really

497
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 3: weird to see people like arguing in front of you

498
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:16,919
Speaker 3: and not to like step in and try to like

499
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 3: be the peacemaker. Yeah, but you're just like, I just

500
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 3: got to let this go and let this play out,

501
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 3: and I just got to sit here and watch it's wild.

502
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 6: Yeah.

503
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 5: But what was your take on everyone's obsession with her

504
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 5: and her also being somebody that Bachelor Nation was rooting

505
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 5: on to be the Bachelorette.

506
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 1: Yeah.

507
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 4: I think it was really interesting because me and Marie

508
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 4: are very very different, even like our personality is like

509
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,719
Speaker 4: everything about us, I would say, we're very different, and

510
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,919
Speaker 4: I think it was super interesting to see how people

511
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 4: were really supporting me and like also really supporting her.

512
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 4: But I also think that might have been part of

513
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,160
Speaker 4: the reason why, because we were so different from each other.

514
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 4: So yeah, did I answer that, I don't even know.

515
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, totally.

516
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 2: I've never seen a contestant come off the show and

517
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 2: have so much support.

518
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 3: I would say, but that doesn't feel like the right word,

519
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 3: like backing, like pandemonium, pandemonium, but also just in her corner,

520
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 3: like she you know, like really like I'm I'm fighting

521
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 3: for her and with her. Yeah, you know, because at

522
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 3: the end of the day, no matter what, like she

523
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 3: was polarizing and at times controversial. Yeah, but yet that

524
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 3: polarization and that controversy led to people just being like, no,

525
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 3: I love her. And it would be there's a couple

526
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 3: of classes out there at universities that study each season

527
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 3: of the show as like a social experiment, and I

528
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 3: can't I would love to hear kind of what they're

529
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,919
Speaker 3: finding out about the support for both you and Maria,

530
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 3: because you are different, but yet you both got so

531
00:27:58,480 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 3: much support.

532
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely. I think it would be interesting to like

533
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 4: see how are like followers overlap?

534
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, like how many do overlap? Yeah, where's the Venn diagram?

535
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 4: Or if they're like they're pretty different or if.

536
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,679
Speaker 6: Like totally, that's so funny.

537
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 5: Okay, so let's talk about your health journey. How how

538
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 5: willing are you to like go back in time and

539
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 5: to start telling us about when you felt like something

540
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 5: was off.

541
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can go way back in time.

542
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 6: Okay, let's do it. When was the moment?

543
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 4: So I think like when I was little, we kind

544
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 4: of always knew because I would have seizures and shot

545
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 4: out and we couldn't really figure out why. And then

546
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 4: I would say, when I was like fifteen seventeen, that's

547
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 4: when I first started realizing that my hearing was going away.

548
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 4: So when and started seeing a bunch of doctors did

549
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 4: all these tests, no one could really figure out what

550
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 4: was wrong with me. And I was still like having

551
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 4: They called them like stroke like cazes because half my

552
00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 4: body would go numb. But yeah, that kept happening. And

553
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 4: then I had first been only losing hearing my left year,

554
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 4: but then it started impacting my right year, and they

555
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 4: didn't think that was ever going to happen. So then

556
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 4: and then I remember I went abroad. It was my

557
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 4: junior year of college and I went abroad, and that

558
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 4: was right after I found out that I was losing

559
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 4: my hearing and I was probably going to lose all

560
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 4: of it, So that was pretty tough. And then that

561
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 4: summer when I got back from abroad, I remember talking

562
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 4: to my mom and I just said, something doesn't feel

563
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 4: right in like my brain. I'm like, I just don't

564
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 4: feel right. I don't feel like me, Like something just

565
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 4: feels wrong. And so then like we started doing a

566
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 4: bunch of different things, and then they figured out that

567
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 4: I had lime disease. And then it got to the

568
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 4: point where I'd be having conversations with people and I'd

569
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 4: just forget what I was saying, like it would just

570
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 4: completely stop.

571
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 5: So when did they think that you ended up getting

572
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 5: lime disease now, in hindsight, because you had it when

573
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 5: you were so little. You had symptoms of something when

574
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 5: you were so little.

575
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I grew up in Minnesota, like out in

576
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 4: the wood, so we were off the side, and I

577
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 4: remember we would like we would come in and our

578
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 4: parents would check us for ticks and take them off.

579
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 4: But I remember when I think when I was six,

580
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 4: I had one in the back of my neck that

581
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 4: was a deer tick. So he went to the doctor

582
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 4: and they caught out a chunk of my skin actually

583
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 4: and took it out. But we think that's when I

584
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 4: got it because there's certain trackers in your blood and

585
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 4: if when I did a bunch of the in depth

586
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 4: test seen multiple times, the trackers that showed only show

587
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 4: if you had it for over ten years. So they

588
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 4: think that's when I probably got it, and then it

589
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 4: just slowly started affecting me like wore some wars.

590
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 3: I want to dive in a little bit here because

591
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 3: for anybody listening, lime disease right now is the third

592
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 3: most diagnosed disease in the US. Yet it doesn't have

593
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 3: a lot of medical backing, so there's not a lot

594
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 3: of money going into it. There's not a lot of research. Daisy,

595
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 3: we've talked about in the podcast before. We don't have

596
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 3: to go into length about this. But my best friend

597
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 3: was diagnosed with lime disease now four years ago, five

598
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 3: years ago, and it developed into ALS, and so it

599
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 3: started shutting down his nervous system and so now he

600
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 3: suffers from ALS. He's still alive, but it's ALS.

601
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 2: Sucks.

602
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 3: So lime disease is a big part of my life,

603
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 3: but it's also a big part of Bachelor Nation's life.

604
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 2: Obviously.

605
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 3: Trista Setter just came out today talking about her husband

606
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 3: Ryan's struggle with lime disease. Kelly flanagain, Kelly Flanagan, I

607
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 3: want to talk a little bit about this disease specifically,

608
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 3: so you're seizures, because I was unaware even kind of

609
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 3: watching the show. I was trying to put all this together.

610
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 3: Your seizures are believe to be also from lime disease.

611
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's like the only thing they can link them to.

612
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 4: I was misdiagnosed with epilepsy, but then I saw a

613
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 4: bunch of specialists and they were like, no, you definitely

614
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 4: do not have epilepsy.

615
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 3: And so one of the things, obviously your case of

616
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 3: lime disease is pretty severe. I'm sure you have a

617
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 3: thousand different other like diseases below that that come up

618
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 3: on blood work.

619
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 2: But you're healthy now, I believe so right, Yeah.

620
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 4: I'm very This is probably like the healthiest I've ever been,

621
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 4: honestly since I was little.

622
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 3: But the cochlear implants are not a part of like

623
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 3: curing lime disease. So what do they do to help

624
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 3: rid you of this terrible disease?

625
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I went to Germany. I did a bunch

626
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 4: of treatments in the States. Nothing was working, and it's

627
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 4: to the point where I like literally couldn't get out

628
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 4: of bed and I was just I was so sick

629
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 4: all the time. I remember there was this time period

630
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 4: where like I couldn't even walk to the bathroom because

631
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 4: my balance was so off. But I went intod this

632
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 4: treatment in Germany and it completely changed my life. But

633
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 4: my hearing. So they think, we don't know for sure,

634
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 4: but we're pretty sure the lime caused me to have

635
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 4: Minear's disease, which destructs your hearing. And so now I

636
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 4: just have I have Minear's disease and that's why my

637
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 4: hearing got so bad.

638
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:27,719
Speaker 6: So does that develop from lime disease?

639
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 4: It can. Minyear's disease can happen from like a bunch

640
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 4: of different things, but from like infections, it can happen.

641
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 4: It can happen from like if you have like impact

642
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 4: to your head. Some people, it just happen. They don't

643
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 4: know exactly why it happens all the time, and there's

644
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 4: like no cere to it. They're doing a bunch of

645
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 4: research right now, so hopefully something that that will come through.

646
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 4: But yeah, they think that's why I haven't And I'm

647
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 4: also not to be the age I am and not

648
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 4: respond to any minear's treatments like usually steroids or diuretics

649
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 4: different like that will help if you're on a really

650
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,760
Speaker 4: strict diet, but none of it has helped me. Surgeon,

651
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 4: actually they call me the unicorn.

652
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 6: Well what kind of magic did they do in Germany?

653
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:16,760
Speaker 5: What did they have over.

654
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 6: There that we do not have? Do they recognize it

655
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 6: as a disease?

656
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 5: They recognize it as a disease, right, because I know

657
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 5: that in America. It's a little bit like yeah, there's

658
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:30,399
Speaker 5: not like isn't isn't it just like not a ben

659
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 5: I think you've said it before. It's not like a

660
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 5: registered like official diet. Can't be like an official diagnosis.

661
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 3: Now it's like under the same category as like fibermyalgia.

662
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 3: So it's like not a registered like recognized disease.

663
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:48,240
Speaker 4: Yeah.

664
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 2: So as a result, like yeah, they'll.

665
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 5: Have that stuff.

666
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, So do you recommend people going to Germany?

667
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:56,919
Speaker 1: Yeah?

668
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 4: I always say if I already get sick again, I

669
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 4: would go there right away. It was definitely it was

670
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 4: like different because you are in a different country, but

671
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 4: they're just so much more knowledgeable about it, and so

672
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 4: the main thing they did was whole body hypothermia. So

673
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 4: they put you to sleep. It's like they yeah, I

674
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,240
Speaker 4: was there for a month, but they did this twice.

675
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 4: They put me to sleep for I would say, like

676
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 4: five to six hours and then they raise your whole

677
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,760
Speaker 4: body temperature up. I got up to like one hundred

678
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 4: and seven point six degrees and then they inject you

679
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 4: with antibiotics because lime can't withstand a certain heat and

680
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 4: a lot of people doctors will just give you antibiotics,

681
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 4: which I was on antibiotics for a really long time.

682
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 4: For some people it'll work because well if you get it,

683
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 4: if you take them within like the first two weeks,

684
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 4: I think it is that you have lime in a work.

685
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 4: But otherwise for most people, the antibiotics would just like

686
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 4: suppress it. But it's not good to be on antibiotics

687
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 4: for your life. But like lime, how to explain, it

688
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,399
Speaker 4: has like a hard shell around it, and if you've

689
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,439
Speaker 4: had it for a certain time, like antibiotics can't crack

690
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,919
Speaker 4: through that shell. So but extreme heat can break the shell.

691
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 4: So when like you're in when I was getting heated up,

692
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 4: the shell like broke open, and then the antibiotics are

693
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 4: able to go in and treat it's so interesting.

694
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 6: Were you super scared going in for that?

695
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 4: I was really scared, but the doctors are very reassuring,

696
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 4: but it is scary because you're in a different country

697
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,919
Speaker 4: and like, but at that point I was so sick.

698
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 4: I remember leaving. My older brother was like, are you

699
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 4: sure you want to do this? And I was just like,

700
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 4: it can't can't get any worse right now, and so

701
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 4: I was kind of my last like hope.

702
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, you're speaking to many there's many listeners who

703
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:47,399
Speaker 3: who've probably been diagnosed with line. Your advocacy for this

704
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 3: is going to be greatly important as we move forward,

705
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 3: because I do believe it is something we need to

706
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 3: start paying attention to. I kind of want to take

707
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 3: this line disease conversation though, and as we close out here,

708
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 3: kind of run it back to the show, because you

709
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 3: obviously had just gotten your cochlear implants right before the

710
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 3: filming of the show, and you've said a couple of

711
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 3: things that I've jotted down here that are interesting me.

712
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 3: You said, if this would have happened a year previous,

713
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 3: you probably wouldn't be sitting where you are today, and

714
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 3: it would have gone a lot differently what I'm curious

715
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 3: and I'm going to say, and it's going to maybe

716
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 3: sound a little bit harsh, but I don't mean it.

717
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:25,240
Speaker 2: I'm like, really curious.

718
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 3: I'm surprised that you could get cochlear implants, something that

719
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 3: is very vulnerable, something that you were you admitted to

720
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 3: being nervous about when it comes to you know how

721
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:39,280
Speaker 3: people would view you. Yet you also had a confidence

722
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 3: that you've already mentioned during this interview to go on

723
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 3: the show with these and a better place than you

724
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 3: were a year previous. And so can you make all

725
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 3: that make sense to me? Because really, what I'm trying

726
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 3: to understand is at the place that you're at the

727
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 3: most vulnerable in your life with something happening in your

728
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:00,040
Speaker 3: life that you're also very insecure about, you're also so

729
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 3: telling us that you were also ready to go on

730
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 3: and day on national television.

731
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 2: I don't understand, So explain it to me, please.

732
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 4: So I think, yeah, it can be confusing. When I

733
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 4: got my co clear implant and started learning with it,

734
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,760
Speaker 4: it was like it was kind of like the world

735
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 4: reopened up to me because I was so sad for

736
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 4: such a long time and I was learning all of

737
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 4: these new things. But it was also before I went

738
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 4: on the show, I was at a place in my

739
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 4: life that I hadn't been at in a really long

740
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 4: time where I was happy, and so I knew going

741
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 4: on the show like, no matter how it went, nothing like,

742
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 4: I wasn't going to let anything affect that. And I

743
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 4: think that's why I was like garden Ways too. But

744
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 4: also it was just it was a really like life

745
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 4: changing time for me. And I also believed, like me

746
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 4: going on the show was happening for a reason, just

747
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 4: how everything had happened the last six months of my

748
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 4: life before going on the show. And I did go

749
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 4: back and forth about doing it, but the producers were awesome,

750
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 4: and even I think it was really special how they

751
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 4: showed because like lime disease isn't always recognized, and in

752
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 4: my like intro video, they had that in there, and

753
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 4: I think it was like it was a really big

754
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 4: moment for people, especially who have like autoimmune diseases too,

755
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 4: to see that and be like it's being recognized, and

756
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 4: it's not only being recognized, but it's on The Bachelor

757
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 4: on ABC, And I think that was a really huge thing.

758
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 4: But I remember being so nervous before it aired too,

759
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 4: because I was like, I'm like, I know where I'm at,

760
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 4: and I'm confident at where I'm at, but I don't

761
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 4: know how other people are going to take this. So

762
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 4: I don't know how does that make sense? But I

763
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 4: get what you're saying and how that can be confusing, Like, oh,

764
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 4: I felt so confident, but I also I think your

765
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 4: health and everything too is also a vulnerable thing. So

766
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 4: it's okay to be confident about it, but also be

767
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 4: like is this how it's going to go? Or is

768
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 4: it not how it's going to go. So it definitely

769
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 4: was a lot of emotions.

770
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 3: It feels like it, and I think that's where I

771
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 3: was coming from, is like it just feels like a

772
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 3: mixed bag of emotions you entering them into this whole, wild,

773
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 3: new experience and doing it with grace and confidence, risking

774
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 3: you know, the opposite of what happened to you actually happening,

775
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 3: which you know, I don't know if that was actually

776
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 3: a very viable concern. I think, you know, if you

777
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 3: would have if we would have met before filming, I

778
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 3: had been like, You're going to do great, Like this

779
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 3: is going to be great, You're going to have a blast,

780
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 3: But I still know that's a concern and it's still

781
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 3: a possibility, and so it does make sense. It's just

782
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 3: always been intriguing to me that you could step out

783
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 3: and do this like you did it in the midst

784
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 3: of what you also were talking about being some of

785
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:49,760
Speaker 3: the most difficult years of your life.

786
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you.

787
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's impressive you've said.

788
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 5: That Night one kind of freaked you out because the

789
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 5: noise was so intense and me feel very overwhelmed.

790
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 6: And then you went on.

791
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 5: Your you know, your country concert date was.

792
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 6: Early on scary for you. Did you feel like I'm

793
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 6: not going to.

794
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 5: Make it this far because I just like socially don't

795
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 5: feel like I'm up for it? Or was there was

796
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 5: what was the hardest part besides night one? And then

797
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,359
Speaker 5: when did you start to feel a little bit more

798
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 5: at ease?

799
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,240
Speaker 4: I think yeah, Night one was definitely the hardest part.

800
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 4: After I told him about everything, then it was easier

801
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 4: because I was like, he understands and if I am

802
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 4: struggling in a situation. And all the girls knew about

803
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 4: it too, and they were so uplifting about it. But

804
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 4: a part that always made me nervous is you don't

805
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 4: know what dates you're going in to do and so

806
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 4: a lot of people don't realize this, I feel like,

807
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 4: but especially for me with my hearing loss, like there's

808
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 4: certain areas that I hear better, and so my anxiety

809
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 4: going into the dates was probably different than a lot

810
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 4: of the other girls because my anxiety was like, are

811
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:04,879
Speaker 4: we going to be somewhere I'm going to be able

812
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 4: to hear and be in the conversation with people, and

813
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 4: so that was always something I was nervous about that

814
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 4: I was always put on dates and most people were

815
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 4: like a music festival, You're bringing the girl with hearing

816
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 4: loves to the music festival. But I do really well

817
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 4: in those situations, especially if it's just one on one,

818
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 4: because I'm just focusing on one person basically, and so

819
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 4: it's easier for me to do that. But yeah, I

820
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 4: think going into different dates and not knowing what they

821
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 4: were going to be, I was always a little anxious

822
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 4: about am I going to be able to hear?

823
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 3: I will say I want to give credit to the

824
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 3: show here, and I don't know if you have this experience, Daisy,

825
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 3: and we are going to close up with you here

826
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 3: soon just a few more questions and kind of it's

827
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 3: a long interview because we're curious about you, But I

828
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 3: will want to give credit to the show. I had

829
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 3: gone on to my season of The Bachelorette with like

830
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 3: recently off of a surgery for an ACL tear, and

831
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 3: they were very accommodating, Like every date that we were

832
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 3: going on, even if I didn't exactly know what it was,

833
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 3: they would kind of give me hints like, hey, bang,

834
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 3: do you feel like you can cut like back and forth?

835
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 3: Do you feel like you can sprint? Do you feel

836
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 3: comfortable like in a like a tug of war type situation?

837
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 3: And they were always extremely accommodating to me and what

838
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 3: I needed. Did you feel the same way about kind

839
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 3: of your experience.

840
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely I did. And I think there were specific

841
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 4: dates that like I probably wasn't on where they did

842
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 4: well that would be like easier for me and more

843
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 4: like fitting, which I really appreciate. Yeah, and then also

844
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 4: I think sometimes I would get and it's like can

845
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 4: you put headphones on? Or I remember them being like

846
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 4: can you go in the water for a little bit

847
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 4: and take it off? And I was like, oh, I'm

848
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 4: doing something in water. But yeah, they always made sure

849
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 4: that I would feel comfortable, but I think it like

850
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 4: there's always going to be like even in my day

851
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 4: to day life, there's always that little bit of anxiety

852
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 4: even I'm like going out to dinner or something.

853
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 3: You know, Daisy, it happens from this show. Oftentimes you're

854
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 3: not the bachelorette. So life is your oyster. It is

855
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 3: wide open in front of you right now. There is

856
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 3: so many things that can happen. There's going to be

857
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 3: so many things that do happen, some associated with the show,

858
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 3: some not. But what the show always does is it

859
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 3: has this little magic to it, and it preps you

860
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 3: for love in the future, be that on Paradise or

861
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:43,280
Speaker 3: be that in your normal life. Have you started dating,

862
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 3: Are you curious about dating? Do you feel more prepared

863
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 3: to fall in love than ever?

864
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 4: Yes, I do. I think I'm at like such a

865
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 4: good spot in my life. But I also think I

866
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 4: did learn about my self a lot for the show,

867
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 4: So no matter what, right now, I'm gonna put myself first.

868
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,399
Speaker 4: But yeah, I have gone on dates and.

869
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 5: Okay, she's like giddy, she's like kind of giggly. You're

870
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 5: definitely thinking of one person in your head.

871
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 4: But yeah, I'm I don't know I'm interested to see

872
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 4: where life goes for me.

873
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 5: Okay, well, you seem like you're in a really good place.

874
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 5: Could we say that you've been on multiple dates with

875
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:29,839
Speaker 5: the same person. Yeah, would you say that you could

876
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 5: be close to like being in a relationship.

877
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 4: I don't know. You never know how time's gonna go.

878
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,879
Speaker 4: But I would say I'm happy right now and it's

879
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 4: looking positive.

880
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 2: But that's such a bachelor answer. I'm happy right now.

881
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 3: That's like what Jillie would have said on any talk

882
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 3: show four months ago. The interesting thing I picked up

883
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 3: on Ashley also is that Daisy's response to going on

884
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 3: Paradise was yeah, it sounds fun, but I'm not ready

885
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 3: right now, or I could it right now or something

886
00:45:59,160 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 3: like that.

887
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 5: So, so there's somebody in her head that she wouldn't

888
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 5: go on for, and I'm wondering if that person was

889
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 5: somebody that was in her head when she was making

890
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 5: the bachelorette decision as well.

891
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 4: No, so that I can actually say one hundred percent

892
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 4: that I made like on my own before I ever

893
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 4: wanted to think about anything with anyone else, because I

894
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 4: knew I was at this point in my life where

895
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:27,839
Speaker 4: like I kind of had to be selfish and make

896
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 4: a decision for me and what was going to be

897
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 4: best for me. So I can say like that decision

898
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 4: was I definitely had nothing to do with my dating

899
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 4: life right now.

900
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 6: In my situation, I.

901
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 5: Had, you know, with Jared a moment where like I

902
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 5: went on the show without him and then I came

903
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 5: off of it and he realized that he was, you know,

904
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 5: just you know, missing out on the greatest thing that

905
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:59,359
Speaker 5: he could have ever had. Yes, did you have anybody

906
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 5: come out of the would work that possibly like you

907
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,919
Speaker 5: dated in the past, that you would kindle things with.

908
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 4: Well, I have quite a few people. Whatever happens, I

909
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 4: think time will tell, but yeah, I could see.

910
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 3: How do you know, to kind of close up this

911
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 3: dating conversation now where life takes you, how are you processing.

912
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:24,399
Speaker 2: That they're they're in.

913
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 3: It for the right reasons, right, like people do come

914
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 3: out of the woodwork, and you showed well on this

915
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 3: show and you had a great experience, and you know,

916
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 3: people love you, and so how do you how are

917
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 3: you like mentally processing that this person is actually in

918
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 3: it for me and not the image of me or

919
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 3: the idea of me.

920
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, I mean, obviously I feel like everyone

921
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:54,919
Speaker 4: on like the outside looking in, people might always think

922
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 4: that and say things, but I think I got that

923
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,359
Speaker 4: when you like get to know somebody in a way

924
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 4: other people don't know them in that way. But yeah, no,

925
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,800
Speaker 4: I get what you're saying, like, and I think dating

926
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 4: coming off of a show like this, especially when you

927
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 4: get the feedback I have gotten, like I'd be lying

928
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 4: in the back of my head if I wasn't like, oh,

929
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 4: this might be a little tricky. But so I think

930
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,399
Speaker 4: that's like a fair question for sure, and something that

931
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 4: people will always think about. But I think for me,

932
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 4: navigating just like knowing who I am and knowing who

933
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 4: they are, Like if I feel like, if you really

934
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 4: look confident about something and confident in yourself, then you

935
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,760
Speaker 4: won't go down that slope.

936
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:48,280
Speaker 3: But it doesn't happen every time. There's good there's great

937
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 3: examples where it's backfired on somebody, Yeah, and they've dated

938
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 3: and it's gone poorly because somebody was just in it

939
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 3: for the wrong reasons. And then there's amazing examples of

940
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 3: people doing it and it working out to everybody's benefit.

941
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:06,919
Speaker 3: It's just always the question that all your friends will ask.

942
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 3: You'll probably get asked to every single event you do

943
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 3: is how is dating Ben?

944
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 2: Post show?

945
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,399
Speaker 4: I feel like it's a learning curve and people are

946
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 4: like so looking into your life. Especially I feel like

947
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 4: coming off the show, everyone like has inpu and something

948
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 4: to say. I know there's there's been like so many tiktoks.

949
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 4: My friends have said to me, it's just like a

950
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 4: random guy and he's like, finally with my girlfriend and

951
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 4: then the next picture is a picture of me.

952
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 2: I think that's a compliment. Take it as a compliment.

953
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 2: It is one. Enjoy it.

954
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,399
Speaker 6: I want to wrap this on a very silly note.

955
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 5: We didn't talk about your music video yet, and we

956
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 5: don't have to die into it, but I do want

957
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:48,240
Speaker 5: to say.

958
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 2: That was ridiculous, Daisy. What was the statement? I want

959
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,320
Speaker 2: to well, no, no, he's too Yeah.

960
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 3: I want to know what it actually means, because Jess

961
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 3: and I talked it through and she had her ideas

962
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 3: and I had mine. They were very different, and I

963
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 3: was like, I actually don't know what it means. And

964
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 3: I would have been so upset if we did this

965
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 3: whole interview and never got clarity.

966
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 6: So you have to say the lyric out loud. Oh,

967
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 6: I have to say the lyric out loud.

968
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can say that.

969
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 6: Beat this out, lick this off.

970
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:18,800
Speaker 5: My note When you said when you saw that lyric

971
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 5: that was written and sung by your best friend since childhood,

972
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 5: who is you know, the musician that you did the

973
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:27,839
Speaker 5: music video with.

974
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 6: You were like you were like.

975
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,320
Speaker 2: What I remember?

976
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 4: I was kind of I was just like this is interesting,

977
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 4: and I remember thinking, you know me interesting and then

978
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,359
Speaker 4: I remember telling you or my mom like listening to it,

979
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 4: and I remember it was my mom and my aunt

980
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 4: and my mom was like, I don't really know about

981
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 4: this one.

982
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 2: Day, Yeah, this one is there more.

983
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 4: I've always like made like music with them and stuff,

984
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 4: but there's not another one like that.

985
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 2: No, Okay, can we get on what it means?

986
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I honestly don't know eactly what it means. But

987
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 4: I can text him and ask him and then I

988
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 4: can report back.

989
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, please report back. We'll break it down in the

990
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 2: next headlines. Day.

991
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 3: Can't verify that this means this, because I really don't.

992
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 3: I mean, I have some ideas and my mind goes

993
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,399
Speaker 3: to like all I can do is have my.

994
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 4: Mind go to your idea is what you think they are?

995
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 4: And then I'll ask you. I'll ask him and then I.

996
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 6: Can tell you, yeah, it's like sex juice.

997
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 3: Okay, my question is, why are you looking at like mean,

998
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 3: I don't see the benefit.

999
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:34,919
Speaker 2: I guess I don't see the health benefit. I don't

1000
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:35,359
Speaker 2: see the.

1001
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 4: Deeply into the But now that I'm thinking into the yeah, yeah.

1002
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:42,800
Speaker 2: I'm going to text you Daisy my thoughts.

1003
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 3: I would love for you to verify when that piece

1004
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 3: of musical artistry was created what it actually meant, and

1005
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 3: then we can actually I can sleep at night finally

1006
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 3: after weeks of this. Okay, thank you, I appreciate this

1007
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 3: final thing. Jin is the next bachelorette. Yeah, what can

1008
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 3: we expect?

1009
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,879
Speaker 4: Do you think I'm really excited for? Like you said,

1010
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 4: I feel like a lot of people don't know a

1011
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 4: lot about her, and I think it'll be interesting to

1012
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 4: see that. I also think since people don't know a

1013
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 4: lot about her, it'll be interesting to see how she

1014
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:22,839
Speaker 4: navigates all of the relationships with so many different guys

1015
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 4: and they're all probably gonna be so different from each

1016
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 4: other because that's how it was on our season too.

1017
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 4: But I'm excited to see how it all works out

1018
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 4: for her, and I hope she gets her happily. Ever, after.

1019
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 2: I hope so too.

1020
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 4: I feel like there's gonna be something like, very very

1021
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 4: dramatic that I don't know why I'm thinking of, but

1022
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 4: I just think there is.

1023
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 3: I'm gonna just rapid fire a few characteristic questions then

1024
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 3: to get to know better, and you can just answer

1025
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 3: yes or no.

1026
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 2: Is she funny yes, that.

1027
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,760
Speaker 4: Like giggly like personality?

1028
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 3: Is she collected like meaning? Will she be dramatic herself?

1029
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 4: I think she's collected and composed, But I think if

1030
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 4: she gets like pushed enough, I could see her like

1031
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 4: not snapping, but I could see her getting sassity. Yeah,

1032
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 4: I could see it getting dramatic.

1033
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 2: And is she ready for love?

1034
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 4: I would say, yeah, she's definitely ready for love.

1035
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 2: Awesome, Daisy, thanks for coming on, Thanks for chatting with us.

1036
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:23,320
Speaker 2: Thank you, guys, appreciate it.

1037
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:24,280
Speaker 6: You're so sweet.

1038
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 3: You are sweet, and that's why it's so confusing to

1039
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 3: watch a music video with those lyrics.

1040
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 4: Honestly, I think everyone needed to be shocked a little bit.

1041
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 4: So I think it works out well.

1042
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:40,280
Speaker 6: Could she's just a daisy though, like she like? Could you?

1043
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 6: Nobody could be more fitting for the name Daisy than you?

1044
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 4: Thank you. It's actually didn't. When they got married, they

1045
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 4: decided my dad would name the girls and my mom

1046
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 4: would name the boys. So my dad named me Daisy.

1047
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 4: My mom was like, absolutely not, and then a couple

1048
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 4: of weeks later, she's like, she's definitely a daisy.

1049
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 2: She's a daisy. You've got an edge.

1050
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 3: I've always tried to create one or show one, and

1051
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 3: sometimes it's worked, sometimes it doesn't. You've got an edge,

1052
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 3: but you're also a daisy, and you are a terrific

1053
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 3: asset to this franchise and also to the world, and

1054
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 3: we appreciate you. And so until next time, I've been Ben.

1055
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 6: I've been Ashley. She's my daisy. HI.

1056
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,799
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1057
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:30,080
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