WEBVTT - Zack Moss 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:02.600 This is cut to it with Steve Smith Senior at 0:00:02.640 --> 0:00:08.879 production of The Black Effect and I Heart Radio. I'm 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:11.680 Steve Smith Senior and I'm a little John. And this 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:16.279 is cut to it. Good do it, Good do they's 0:00:16.320 --> 0:00:19.880 getting down to do it. Good do it. We asked 0:00:19.880 --> 0:00:23.120 the questions you always want to know, but no one 0:00:23.239 --> 0:00:29.200 ever asked, let's cut to it. You ain't heard them 0:00:29.200 --> 0:00:34.680 about it, then we're about to let you know it's 0:00:34.800 --> 0:00:44.080 all exactly. Ain't playing that greater defense hopefuy, don't matter 0:00:44.159 --> 0:00:48.919 door defense. Hi, the whole neighbor. You need flanders now 0:00:49.360 --> 0:00:53.319 I did the old neighbor. Hi, the old neighbor. What's up? Man? 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:57.240 What's on? What's on your mental today? Every time? Okay 0:00:57.240 --> 0:01:02.200 every day? You laugh? Shorten it up? Just talking, you 0:01:02.240 --> 0:01:07.200 know right now with with covid um just disreppared. Just 0:01:07.440 --> 0:01:12.080 it's it's over for you. It's poof, It's going right, 0:01:13.160 --> 0:01:17.440 um man. It's just you know, being at kids activities, 0:01:18.400 --> 0:01:23.440 um and and and I'm just starting to I think 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:29.199 I'm starting to see myself a little bit. And uh well, 0:01:29.360 --> 0:01:34.880 let me say this. I apologize to Peyton Smith and 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:43.600 probably Boston Smith. I was I'm a I am currently 0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:47.440 because you know, I'm not God well, I'm not passing 0:01:49.240 --> 0:01:55.560 um terrible sports dad. How so I have been one 0:01:55.600 --> 0:01:57.920 of those that you know, I yea, I yelled and 0:01:58.120 --> 0:02:02.000 screen and I think my son's going to whatever sports 0:02:02.000 --> 0:02:05.720 So if he's playing soccer, the MLS tomorrow, basketball to 0:02:05.880 --> 0:02:09.679 NBA currently and the NFL definitely getting drafted next week. 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:16.560 I've seen at my son's basketball events and also my 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:23.760 oldest son's soccer events, and I was a terrible parents man, 0:02:23.919 --> 0:02:30.600 just like just yelling and you know, just making making 0:02:30.600 --> 0:02:37.320 this sport that they were participating in so unpleasurable. And 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:39.880 it sucks to admit it, and it sucks to see 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:41.880 myself because I've seen some of these dads when I 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:45.160 was I was watching some kids this weekend in basketball, 0:02:45.960 --> 0:02:49.160 watching some kids as some seven on seven tournaments bro eight, 0:02:50.560 --> 0:02:53.360 and you see some of these dads yelling and like 0:02:53.680 --> 0:02:59.800 just going after it over a catch, get him what 0:03:00.000 --> 0:03:04.280 the blank? Any blank? And I'm like, and what was interesting? 0:03:05.080 --> 0:03:09.440 As I was watching those parents, I wasn't thinking, oh look, 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:12.919 how that that's terrible. I wasn't thinking that. I wasn't 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:18.720 thinking oh look, I was going that's how it was. 0:03:22.080 --> 0:03:26.119 And i can't imagine how embarrassed my kids are, how 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:35.200 deflated they are, how discouraged there, And so it sucks. 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:38.560 It really does. What would you tell what would you 0:03:38.560 --> 0:03:40.960 tell that parent now, whether it was you in the past, 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:45.760 Sup the funk down? That's how it really tell them. 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:53.360 And thank god nobody told me that because it wouldn't 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:57.600 have went well. But I I'm I'm being honest. I 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:01.200 just I feel bad. I really feel bad at the 0:04:01.240 --> 0:04:08.080 way I behaved and how I was embarrassed for my wife. 0:04:10.360 --> 0:04:15.280 So it sucks, and especially as a as an athlete, 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:20.200 a former athlete, I've lost all credibility as an athlete 0:04:20.200 --> 0:04:22.840 because it's like, well, we know you're a great athlete, dad, 0:04:22.920 --> 0:04:27.800 but you're a dick as a father, especially in that area. 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:30.120 I picked myself up, take them here and there, but 0:04:30.200 --> 0:04:32.599 then you know, or lecture um all the time about 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:35.000 what about hard work and all that stuff? Man, it 0:04:35.080 --> 0:04:38.479 just sucks. And so just kind of seeing that, and 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:40.680 so I gotta take a step back, but I can't go. 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:44.880 So I'm balancing between do I say something to them 0:04:44.920 --> 0:04:50.200 to acknowledge what I've seen and myself, or do I 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:53.520 not say anything and just act differently about it, and 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:56.320 I probably have to do both. I have to acknowledge 0:04:56.360 --> 0:05:00.000 that and then over time really for him to see 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:04.479 and trust that I am gonna make those changes. So 0:05:04.560 --> 0:05:07.480 it just kind of sucks. Well, I get where you're 0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:10.040 coming from. The one thing, the one thing, no, no, no, no. Look, 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:14.400 can I speak for myself, Yeah, speaking for myself, And 0:05:14.800 --> 0:05:16.960 the one thing, I don't say you type of parents, 0:05:17.360 --> 0:05:20.640 don't say that. But you did some things you don't 0:05:20.680 --> 0:05:22.400 you don't like, and you you have some stuff that 0:05:22.400 --> 0:05:24.159 you wish you could take back. But brother, I'll be 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:26.520 around you. You're not a terrible parent, So don't even 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:29.440 don't even don't even reinforce saying that. Don't say that 0:05:29.440 --> 0:05:31.200 ship no more because you're not a terrible parent. I 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:37.520 appreciate it just as tough because how you operate on 0:05:37.560 --> 0:05:41.960 the sports field does leave. It's like when you drink 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:44.920 a drink, right, especially if you drink a diet drink 0:05:45.000 --> 0:05:48.839 asportasenus like, even though after you drink it, it still 0:05:48.960 --> 0:05:52.480 has that after taste, right, and that and and I 0:05:52.520 --> 0:06:00.240 think the aftertaste of how I've conducted myself, of his 0:06:00.520 --> 0:06:09.760 parenting on the sports realm has we look at as 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:13.159 as men and dads. We look at our parenting as 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:17.080 waffles and and and what we say don't say, and 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:20.280 how we act is the syrup, right, and if you 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:25.240 don't pour enough syrup in the square the waffle, if 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:27.120 you just put a little bit, it won't go into 0:06:27.160 --> 0:06:31.320 the other square. And that's how we look at his dads. 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:33.000 We look at it's like, all right, we pour the syrup, 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:34.839 and if you don't pour enough it, you know, not 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:38.200 enough syrup goes in all the squares and you're like, 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:40.800 where are you going with this? What happens is when 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:46.760 we parents bad in sports, it's like spaghetti. It's all 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:53.400 mixed together. They are kids, are family. They don't separated 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:57.159 like the waffle. They don't compartmentalize it like the waffle. 0:06:57.560 --> 0:07:01.800 It's freaking spaghetti. And what we talked about spaghetti spaghetti. 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:05.800 The the next day is always what better. That's how 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:08.039 the pain is when we do it is the next 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:12.080 day it actually stinks even worse because they replay in 0:07:12.080 --> 0:07:16.520 their minds. So it's just like it's it's everywhere when 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:19.679 you when you parents bad on the sports, it goes 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:23.560 into well, he must think I never do anything right, 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:25.840 or he must and I can see that. I'm just 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:30.080 kind of going back in my mind. I'm like, gosh, right, 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:34.280 and so I I gotta, I gotta stop on the 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:38.120 sports to be able to get out of the spaghetti, 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:42.680 to get into the waffles. Because here's a crazy part. 0:07:43.480 --> 0:07:48.440 My boys love waffles. And so that's what I that's 0:07:48.440 --> 0:07:51.200 what I gotta do. And so right now it is 0:07:51.360 --> 0:07:55.800 mixed up with my being a good dad driving them around. 0:07:56.880 --> 0:08:00.480 But he doesn't he doesn't get it because it's the spaghetti. 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:03.840 It's all mixed up together, and and and he leaves 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:06.400 your bad tastes of his mouth. And that's the important part. 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:11.880 My breath can think all day, but he don't want 0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:15.480 to smell it, right, And so it's just I, I gotta, 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:17.520 I gotta step in there. I gotta work on it better. 0:08:18.000 --> 0:08:20.000 And I saw it this weekend. And what's crazy is 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:26.200 he bawled this weekend. He played really well this weekend, 0:08:27.200 --> 0:08:29.320 and I just told me, did a good job. And 0:08:29.400 --> 0:08:32.120 I think he was concerned or word, and I just said, man, 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:34.559 you played well. But I think I gotta do that 0:08:34.600 --> 0:08:36.680 more and more so he could believe it. He don't 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:39.840 believe it right now because I'll be on them I'll 0:08:39.880 --> 0:08:43.760 be uh, I'll be on the bad and that was cool. 0:08:43.960 --> 0:08:46.800 I'm I'm just still trying to figure out how and 0:08:47.000 --> 0:08:53.680 the hell you mixed pancakes, waffles, spaghetti, and parenting in 0:08:53.720 --> 0:08:57.080 the same metaphor. You are a word smith. My brother 0:09:02.120 --> 0:09:05.640 Charenton brought to you by Ages cheft Board Cut to It. 0:09:09.840 --> 0:09:12.199 Who we got coming up on the Cut to It podcast? 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:15.440 We've got Zack moss or running back for the Buffalo Bills. 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:18.480 He was drafted in out of the University of Utah, 0:09:18.480 --> 0:09:22.240 where he's the all time leading rusher for the school. 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:30.440 Zack Moss on the Cut to It Podcast, I'm super 0:09:30.440 --> 0:09:34.439 excited about this one. Of course. You are here Uta guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:09:34.600 --> 0:09:37.160 I don't. I don't. I don't claim ah. You tak guys. 0:09:37.240 --> 0:09:41.240 You don't come back made it though, Yeah, they're made it. 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:46.400 There's something I'm like, No, I don't want him all. 0:09:47.040 --> 0:09:49.320 I don't. He didn't go to Utah. Oh man, you 0:09:49.320 --> 0:09:53.280 ain't claiming brom I'm I'm uncle Lero. I don't say 0:09:53.320 --> 0:09:55.040 you like that. You like that cousin of that Uncle 0:09:55.080 --> 0:09:59.360 Wayne claim him. That's that that's the other set of Smiths. Yeah, 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:01.960 that's that's a you know his mom. Yeah right, you 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:06.280 know you know them. We gotta invite him, put them 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:08.319 in back, and you know, you know, you know she 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:10.559 coming over. You know she's still how do your stuff? 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:12.480 Get it off the dress of it? Maybe it's just me, 0:10:12.600 --> 0:10:16.120 my bad everybody anyway, Hey, but our first segment it's 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:18.320 called get ice stuck. Go ahead, give him the first one, 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:19.880 all right. Depending on how you answer, we're gonna have 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:21.680 some follow ups. And I think I got you on 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:24.679 a few of these because you don't know they're coming. 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:32.400 So let's snowboarding or scheme. I've never done either one, 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:36.240 but I probably would pick snowboarding, though really you never 0:10:36.480 --> 0:10:39.160 all the time you spend up in up in Park City, 0:10:39.720 --> 0:10:42.560 only did I did snowmobiling. That was the only thing 0:10:42.600 --> 0:10:45.840 that really I was able to do. When I get back, Definitely, 0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:50.240 I'm gonna try to snowboarding. Thought. Okay, now o my 0:10:50.400 --> 0:11:04.960 recruited trip back in You know they took a nineteen 0:11:05.040 --> 0:11:11.800 I'm sorry electric boogaloo into on my recruiting trip to 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:17.000 Utah from California. Ski Are you been hooked? I've been 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:19.400 hooked ever since. Did they take you guys skiing and stuff? 0:11:19.720 --> 0:11:21.880 They took a snowmobil and that's how I got hooked 0:11:21.920 --> 0:11:25.800 on that that'd be cool. Yeah, yeah, it ain't bad. 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:28.280 My girl from Park City, so she loved telling me 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:30.480 about the skin and the snowboarding. But I think I'm 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:34.400 gonna stick to the snowboarding though. Yeah, man, I bro 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:38.199 I've been sneaking up to Utah for years ago skinning. Yeah. Yeah, 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:40.839 like we uh you know some of the games would 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:44.080 go sneak up and watch the games. Right after that, 0:11:44.160 --> 0:11:49.040 go back up in parks. He was in town. All right, 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:57.200 favorite fruit? What's your favorite fruit? Pears? Pears spread today 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:03.520 bears not a bad answer though, Asian pair, regular pair? Oh, 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:08.560 she wants to more more like just the regular pair. 0:12:08.760 --> 0:12:11.280 I know. My mom is always like she'll go to 0:12:11.360 --> 0:12:13.560 Sam's or whatever and legit, Like just bring me just 0:12:13.600 --> 0:12:16.319 a bag of pair, just for myself because I just 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:19.719 I just messed with parents for some reason. Now are 0:12:19.720 --> 0:12:21.360 you one of those where you have to peel it 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:23.520 or you just eat it with the skin? You eat 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:26.320 it with skin? My board, my son dudees doesn't like 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:29.199 it with the skin. Really. Yeah, eat a pair though, 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:34.880 like like his apple. So if I got one of me, now, 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:36.480 I don't know if you can cook. But if you 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:38.760 do a little pair a little bit of centnament of 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:42.760 sugar and cast iron skillet, little small cash onn skillet. 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:48.200 It's also waffles, pretty good waffles. Yeah, that sounded like something. 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:50.559 That sounds like something. I don't really dab too much 0:12:50.559 --> 0:12:52.760 in any case, but yeah, I might have to bring 0:12:52.760 --> 0:12:57.480 that to my girl one time though, dropping comping a 0:12:57.480 --> 0:13:03.600 little nugget and this is what I heard? How much 0:13:03.640 --> 0:13:07.959 mology get out that one? All right? Would you rather 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:21.800 sky dive or swim with shark? Where's options? Ce? He touched, 0:13:22.160 --> 0:13:25.480 He put his hand on his head as if he 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:31.760 woke up. Said, I'm bad. I'm gonna go with I'm 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:34.600 gonna go with sky dive. I can't swim, so put 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:37.959 me in there already by myself. But za brother me, 0:13:38.000 --> 0:13:41.160 I don't mess with the slopes. I'm not a good swimmer. Like, 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:43.719 stay away from stuff you don't know. First of all, 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:47.280 stop lying you not. You're not a good swimmer. I 0:13:47.400 --> 0:13:51.440 just learned, boy, you can't swim. Learn learn like I 0:13:51.559 --> 0:13:55.360 just learned, like four years ago. Yeah, and how much 0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:58.199 practice have you gotten? Oh? Not a lot? So I can? 0:13:58.280 --> 0:14:01.080 I can. I can save my life if deemed necessary. 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:04.000 I ain't about Olympics style swomen. No, that's what, And 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:06.360 I don't want to. I don't. I don't to his point, 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:07.960 I'm not going to the ocean with sharks. I can 0:14:07.960 --> 0:14:10.000 already answer for that. You ain't. You don't fool with 0:14:10.040 --> 0:14:12.640 the ocean, right, So I ain't fooling with that. And 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:16.400 then Scott Driving man, my brothers want to jump out 0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:21.760 of a plane. No, I'm good. Is that real? It's 0:14:21.800 --> 0:14:24.600 folks that love a dreamline. I'm not doing either either. 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:29.640 I'm not doing either either. But I didn't want to 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:33.960 swim with a minto much less. I just wanted to 0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:36.200 throw it out there. I like asking some of these 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:39.680 because you you sometimes you would get an answer that 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:45.040 you didn't see coming. So, favorite football, favorite sports team 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:47.240 growing up, any you know, it doesn't have to be football, 0:14:47.360 --> 0:14:51.640 be any sport, whatever it is. Uh. I probably would 0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:57.040 say the Lakers um just because I was a huge 0:14:57.240 --> 0:15:01.920 uh Kobe Bryant France um for forever, as long as 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:05.160 I know, ever since I started watching sports. And you know, 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:07.920 just something about the way he you know, everything about 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:10.800 Kobe just you know, goes without saying. But I think 0:15:10.880 --> 0:15:14.920 lak it's definitely okay, cool and see that won't come. 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:19.920 I would I would have I would have assumed definitely 0:15:19.920 --> 0:15:23.960 won the Florida teams. Yeah, like Orlando with have been 0:15:23.960 --> 0:15:25.760 trashed for me. And I know he would probably say right, 0:15:26.960 --> 0:15:30.400 look when he said Atlanta, like listen, I was just assuming, 0:15:32.720 --> 0:15:35.960 all right, I noticed answer. But where are you from 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:40.960 and the place you call your hometown. I'm from Miami, Florida, 0:15:41.040 --> 0:15:45.160 and I call Liberty City Ontown City, Liberty City. So 0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:49.080 growing up in Liberty City? How did this shape you? 0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:53.200 Because you hear about Liberty City, you hear about certain 0:15:53.240 --> 0:15:57.600 areas in Florida, California, Texas, certain areas you know, Detroit, 0:15:58.640 --> 0:16:05.080 and you're not next surely sure how that has shaped 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:10.320 each individual? Yeah? Uh, it shaped me because I mean 0:16:10.400 --> 0:16:12.560 in a way that you know, I had to grow 0:16:12.640 --> 0:16:15.000 up kind of fast. Um you know, I lived in 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:18.840 a single parent household, five brothers and sisters. Um, you know, 0:16:19.240 --> 0:16:21.360 my mom and dad went through the forest. So just 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:24.240 seeing all of that and then you know, kind of 0:16:24.280 --> 0:16:27.520 having family members that was industries. Still to this day, 0:16:28.160 --> 0:16:30.760 you kind of have a two ways to go right there, 0:16:30.960 --> 0:16:32.960 you know what I mean? You have either you're gonna 0:16:33.000 --> 0:16:36.320 be industries doing certain things and putting yourself in harm, 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:39.400 or you can go down a different path, which you 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:40.960 know a lot of people don't go. You don't really 0:16:41.000 --> 0:16:43.040 have a lot of you know, people to help you 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:45.520 tell you how to do it. Um, you know, you're 0:16:45.560 --> 0:16:48.760 kind of just guiding yourself, um, all the way through 0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:51.880 that path. And you know it's kind of like you 0:16:51.960 --> 0:16:54.760 just put on a pair of shades, but you can't 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:56.240 see out of them. You know, you're just putting on 0:16:56.680 --> 0:16:59.040 certain pre pair of shades and going down a different 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:01.360 route that a lot of people haven't went, and they 0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:03.760 really can't help you a lot. So everything you kind 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:07.760 of encounter by yourself, you pretty much being the first 0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:11.200 person to encounter in your family. Well, you said that, 0:17:11.720 --> 0:17:13.480 you know, your parents went to a divorce, and I'm 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:17.119 sorry to hear that. And how did how big of 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:19.280 a role did both of them you know obviously with 0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:22.080 them going through going through the divorce, How big of 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:25.560 a role did your parents play in your life? My 0:17:25.640 --> 0:17:28.360 mom is the reason that I played the game. Um, 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:32.640 it's the reason that I've even made it uh this far. Um, 0:17:32.680 --> 0:17:35.200 you know that's why I still have the same hunger 0:17:35.560 --> 0:17:38.000 even inside me, even though you know, I even just 0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:39.640 because I've made it here, you know, I still want 0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:43.159 more for you know, for her, my family, future family 0:17:43.160 --> 0:17:47.120 and things like that. UM. So that was my entire 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:51.320 motivation ever since that part. Um, seeing all the things 0:17:51.400 --> 0:17:54.520 you had to go through moving three four times and 0:17:55.000 --> 0:17:57.920 two years spend things like that. So all that type 0:17:57.960 --> 0:18:01.400 of stuff, UM, definitely just motivate to me. UM. My dad, 0:18:01.400 --> 0:18:04.040 you know, he was he was there in the sense of, 0:18:04.400 --> 0:18:07.679 you know, when football was um and played. You know, 0:18:07.760 --> 0:18:10.959 he was always coming to the games. Uh you know, 0:18:11.040 --> 0:18:14.159 get you some clease if you needed them here and there. UM. 0:18:14.200 --> 0:18:17.040 But you know, on besides that type of stuff, you know, 0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:20.160 it wasn't really uh, you know, much of a father 0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:24.840 figure um in that in that role. When you hear 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:31.760 football was a huge role in my life. What was 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:38.960 Zack Most's life that included football? I mean growing up, 0:18:39.440 --> 0:18:41.920 you know, me and my brothers, we bonded a lot 0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:47.480 over sports. Uh, from basketball, just video games and things 0:18:47.520 --> 0:18:51.680 like that. UM. But you know, I've been playing football 0:18:51.720 --> 0:18:55.120 since about age of ten years old. UM. Before that, 0:18:55.600 --> 0:18:58.480 you know, I can't really remember everything, but you know, 0:18:58.560 --> 0:19:01.560 before that, it was mostly just you know, mom's cumplers 0:19:01.600 --> 0:19:05.199 in church. Um, you know, being around family, being around 0:19:05.520 --> 0:19:09.040 doing those type of things, being family oriented. Um, you know, 0:19:09.160 --> 0:19:11.840 and football just at the beginning, for me, it was 0:19:11.880 --> 0:19:13.800 just a hobby. It was just something that I picked 0:19:13.880 --> 0:19:17.560 up from watching uh some of my homeboys too when 0:19:17.560 --> 0:19:19.640 we were younger. You know, they were the ones going 0:19:19.680 --> 0:19:24.760 out there spending hours and hours going to you know, 0:19:24.880 --> 0:19:28.560 these different camps, doing these different types of trainings with 0:19:28.720 --> 0:19:30.920 these private coaches and things like that. You know. And 0:19:31.240 --> 0:19:34.080 after football practice for me, I'll go home, go to 0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:36.399 the park and then go play basketball, I side with 0:19:36.560 --> 0:19:39.000 you know people at the parking things like that. Um. 0:19:39.040 --> 0:19:41.200 And I was you know, mostly you know, my life. 0:19:41.320 --> 0:19:45.480 But football was just a thing for me to really 0:19:45.520 --> 0:19:49.240 grab onto that helped me just kind of figure out 0:19:49.240 --> 0:19:52.600 who I was at the same time. Um, and you know, 0:19:53.000 --> 0:19:55.399 helped me just continue to grow as a person and 0:19:55.480 --> 0:19:57.639 kind of realize what I wanted in life and things 0:19:57.680 --> 0:20:01.120 like that. Um. You know, like football was a big 0:20:01.160 --> 0:20:03.080 thing is a big thing to my in my life 0:20:03.080 --> 0:20:05.199 because it's brought me so many different things that I 0:20:05.240 --> 0:20:09.119 probably wouldn't have uh discovered going down this path. I 0:20:09.160 --> 0:20:11.919 want a different path. We have to take a break. 0:20:12.359 --> 0:20:15.560 And the morning thing we gotta pay some bills. You 0:20:15.640 --> 0:20:23.080 got checks. I love cut to It, and I love 0:20:23.119 --> 0:20:27.240 it even more when you download us and subscribe, and 0:20:27.680 --> 0:20:29.879 you can follow us on social media too, Smithie where 0:20:29.920 --> 0:20:32.879 where at? That's at? Cut to It on Instagram? What 0:20:33.000 --> 0:20:38.119 about Twitter? At? Cut to It? Facebook? Cut to It 0:20:38.200 --> 0:20:42.040 featuring Steve Smith singr? What about online? And you can 0:20:42.080 --> 0:20:44.760 follow us at cut to It podcast dot com where 0:20:44.920 --> 0:20:47.879 you can buy merch and you can subscribe to us 0:20:47.880 --> 0:20:52.840 wherever you listen to podcasts. I got all my answers questions. Um, yeah, 0:20:53.280 --> 0:20:56.600 I got all my questions answered. That's what I'm here for, 0:20:56.640 --> 0:21:00.720 a brother, cut to a podcast dot com. You attended 0:21:01.359 --> 0:21:06.359 made Her Academy charter school, which was not the most 0:21:06.480 --> 0:21:10.800 closest school and proximity being in Liberty City. Why attend 0:21:10.880 --> 0:21:13.560 there as opposed to the other city the other high 0:21:13.560 --> 0:21:17.440 schools that were around you. The closest school my home 0:21:17.480 --> 0:21:19.879 school would have been Miami Central High School, which is 0:21:19.920 --> 0:21:23.000 known being one of the powerhouse football schools UH in 0:21:23.119 --> 0:21:25.920 South Florida. But I think the only reason I didn't 0:21:25.960 --> 0:21:29.600 go there, and you know the Miami Northwestern's and St. Thomas. 0:21:29.600 --> 0:21:32.000 It's not all these different type of schools. Um. It's 0:21:32.080 --> 0:21:35.080 because you know, Matta Economy was a it was a 0:21:35.080 --> 0:21:40.200 newer school for one, weren't known for sports size really baseball. Um. 0:21:40.320 --> 0:21:42.760 And you know, going back to you know, my mom 0:21:42.840 --> 0:21:45.520 definitely wanted me to you know, stay out of trouble, 0:21:45.720 --> 0:21:48.159 you know, and that was the biggest thing. UM. My 0:21:48.280 --> 0:21:51.480 brother went to Miami Northwestern High School where he played 0:21:51.480 --> 0:21:54.760 football and kind of just got lost and fizzled out. 0:21:55.359 --> 0:21:59.200 UM in that type of atmosphere because you know, even 0:21:59.200 --> 0:22:02.320 in the high schools, you see you you see everything 0:22:02.640 --> 0:22:04.400 um that goes on in the streets they bring into 0:22:04.440 --> 0:22:08.480 school when you got you know, security guards armed at 0:22:08.480 --> 0:22:10.720 the school and things like that. You gotta go through, 0:22:10.920 --> 0:22:12.280 you know, metal text all the type of stuff you 0:22:12.320 --> 0:22:14.800 see in a movie. But you know it's real life, 0:22:14.840 --> 0:22:17.800 is regular to us when you talk about it to 0:22:17.840 --> 0:22:20.280 other people. UM. But you know, she just wanted me 0:22:20.320 --> 0:22:22.639 to go to a school where I could you know, 0:22:22.840 --> 0:22:26.320 focus and just do what I need to do. Um 0:22:26.359 --> 0:22:29.240 and at the same time, you know, be myself. UM. 0:22:29.280 --> 0:22:32.320 And at the time, I didn't, like I said, football 0:22:32.480 --> 0:22:35.040 was more of a hobby even in high school. You know, 0:22:35.080 --> 0:22:38.800 I started taking it seriously into my junior year. Um, 0:22:38.840 --> 0:22:41.520 So when I went there, it was more about just 0:22:41.840 --> 0:22:45.159 going somewhere where I can get education, be safe and 0:22:45.200 --> 0:22:48.639 a safe zone and everything like that. Um, because if 0:22:48.680 --> 0:22:51.440 I wanted to play football for real, for real, definitely 0:22:51.480 --> 0:22:54.440 going to that school would not have put me. Uh 0:22:54.480 --> 0:23:00.320 in the best predicument you played four years? Did they 0:23:00.320 --> 0:23:04.800 get you to Utah from South Florida? From South Florida 0:23:05.800 --> 0:23:09.120 for one? Hold on? There should record alone too? Now 0:23:11.880 --> 0:23:15.800 you know they know they didn't get me from Cali 0:23:16.520 --> 0:23:20.359 because of the snow. I'm just telling moving right along, 0:23:21.000 --> 0:23:27.359 moving right along, so big, big trouble, but it's nothing 0:23:27.400 --> 0:23:29.320 to get anybody in trouble with. So I just want 0:23:29.320 --> 0:23:33.159 to make that, make that clear true now. But you 0:23:33.200 --> 0:23:36.800 know I played with two guys at Utah that also 0:23:36.880 --> 0:23:39.800 played with me in high school, being our quarterback, Tyler 0:23:39.880 --> 0:23:42.359 Hunley and one of our receivers in Damark Simkoln. So 0:23:42.400 --> 0:23:45.719 we all played football in South Florida together in high school. 0:23:45.760 --> 0:23:49.240 You know, we played little league football against each other 0:23:49.520 --> 0:23:52.760 with each other and they Hunty played quarterback and uh 0:23:52.920 --> 0:23:54.960 in Pop Warner and stuff where he played all all 0:23:55.040 --> 0:23:58.280 different positions like all you guys. Now, he played quarterback 0:23:58.359 --> 0:24:01.159 literally from literally all the up and that was his 0:24:01.320 --> 0:24:04.360 that was his theme. Um, you did you always play 0:24:04.440 --> 0:24:06.960 running back and you play other position? No? I didn't 0:24:06.960 --> 0:24:10.120 play running back into my junior in high school. UM, 0:24:10.160 --> 0:24:15.679 I played linebacker. Okay. I'm always interested to hear, you know, 0:24:15.840 --> 0:24:21.760 different play different positions guys played, because they always necessarily 0:24:22.640 --> 0:24:24.320 mean that they're gonna play that. In a pro that's 0:24:24.320 --> 0:24:26.920 a frequent transition. Some people may hear them like linebacker 0:24:27.040 --> 0:24:32.040 running back. That happens a lot. Yeah, that's very normal. Yeah. 0:24:32.160 --> 0:24:35.000 It definitely helped me a lot. Um, just kind of knowing, 0:24:35.160 --> 0:24:36.760 you know, how the defense is supposed to work and 0:24:36.800 --> 0:24:39.360 things like that, growing up in in this new position. 0:24:39.960 --> 0:24:42.280 But um, you know I played with both of those 0:24:42.320 --> 0:24:45.760 guys at Holly Indale High School and they first they 0:24:45.760 --> 0:24:47.600 were they early in role. They were the first to 0:24:47.720 --> 0:24:50.640 the early in role. Um and you know, you talk 0:24:50.840 --> 0:24:53.640 wasn't really big on my radar at the time. Um. 0:24:53.680 --> 0:24:56.159 I was still kind of you know, feeling things. I 0:24:56.200 --> 0:24:57.800 was trying to figure out where I wanted to go. 0:24:58.400 --> 0:25:00.480 Um And at the time, I was committed to uh 0:25:00.520 --> 0:25:03.920 to the you Miami, and you know, I was kind 0:25:03.920 --> 0:25:06.240 of figuring that out. I was like, man, I don't 0:25:06.280 --> 0:25:09.840 really want to stay so close to home UM, and 0:25:09.920 --> 0:25:12.200 at the time they were really bad at the same time, 0:25:12.440 --> 0:25:16.160 so and they had just fired uh was his name 0:25:16.240 --> 0:25:19.640