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Speaker 1: Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the No Dunks Podcast,

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Speaker 1: presented by Fan Duel. It's Wednesday, April eighth, twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: I'm J.

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Speaker 1: Skeets here in the Classic Factory and alongside me a

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Speaker 1: former coworker, a good friend back eshwack kid. Hi, y'all

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Speaker 1: doing what's up?

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Speaker 2: Ash?

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Speaker 1: Nice to have you here, and let's not forget the Man,

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Speaker 1: the Myth, the legend, super producer jd oh.

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Speaker 2: He is here. We are great to have you back.

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Speaker 2: Hey man, it's great to be back. Always good to

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Speaker 2: be here.

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Speaker 1: I notice you have a box of Kleenex beside you.

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Speaker 1: Are you planning to get emotional here in your return?

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Speaker 2: As emotional as it is to be back on the show. Actually,

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Speaker 2: I'm just I'm always sick when I'm on here, like

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Speaker 2: anytime I'm here with Tasha Tray. I've been here before.

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Speaker 2: There's sniffles happening all the time. So I just I

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Speaker 2: don't know what it is I'm allergic to you guys.

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Speaker 1: I guess yeah, maybe allergies could be a thing here

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Speaker 1: in Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: Allergy has been kicking my ass for a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Raining Look, I played pickleball outside for hours the other

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Speaker 2: day with JD and Rachel. Not one sniffle, not one sneeze.

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Speaker 2: I wake up yesterday and I'm like, I can't breathe.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, what is happening to Harry? I don't understand. Now?

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Speaker 2: You do have four children?

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Speaker 1: I do, and I assume one of them is always sick,

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Speaker 1: meaning you're always sick or sniffles here.

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Speaker 2: Recently they've all been healthy.

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Speaker 1: I don't know all the that immune system, man.

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Speaker 2: I guess it is me. I don't know. I did

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Speaker 2: put him in a coal plunge. Oh wow, hypothermia, that's

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Speaker 2: what it is. Out of your baller gym, which is

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Speaker 2: really a resort. Yeah, oh my god, it's crazy. How

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Speaker 2: did pickleball go? Were you? It went awesome for me?

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Speaker 2: Really really it was awesome for you, Like, what do

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Speaker 2: you mean? I destroyed you? Manes? All right? Me and

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Speaker 2: Courtney were not doing very well against him and Rachel.

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Speaker 2: We swited up teams. I won one match during the day.

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Speaker 2: Is JD and I girls all right? But I remember

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Speaker 2: one match we were up like eight to one. We lost.

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Speaker 2: We lost?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so are you playing a lot more? It's

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Speaker 1: becoming more regular for.

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Speaker 2: A while last year and then we haven't played in

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Speaker 2: a while, but we're trying to get back in and

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Speaker 2: we hadn't seen these guys in the while, so we're like,

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Speaker 2: let's hang out a little bit. Please tell me you're

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Speaker 2: still playing pick up basketball though, Oh yeah, basketball all

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Speaker 2: the time. You should see me right now. I'm back, Really,

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Speaker 2: I am back, all right? Ask anybody call anybody up

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Speaker 2: at the FLC in games will Georgia. They'll tell you. Look,

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Speaker 2: I'm talking the kid. Did we're playing the twelve, I'm

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Speaker 2: scoring eight?

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Speaker 1: You know? So where was that the one time we

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Speaker 1: needed it?

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Speaker 2: In tournament? Listen, if you talk to anybody that's not

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Speaker 2: you or you and Trey have not seen the best day,

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Speaker 2: it happens. It's all right.

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Speaker 1: Uh, we got a Weggie to show everyone here. If

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Speaker 1: you're joining us on YouTube, hit the like button, subscribe.

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Speaker 1: Do it for esh Kid being back in the Classic

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Speaker 1: Factory podcast listeners five star ratings and reviews. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: Weggie number seventy one Killian Hayes. He plays for the

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Speaker 1: Sacramento Kings. Did you know that? I know a lot

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Speaker 1: of you didn't.

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Speaker 2: I actually didn't. I saw highlights this morning. I'm like

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Speaker 2: killing Hayes. Hell is that. Yeah, he's on the Kings.

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Speaker 2: Yeah he is. And that is Weggie seventy one.

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Speaker 1: And the Kings, despite having an absolute brutal season, the

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Speaker 1: one thing they figured out this year how to stick weggies.

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Speaker 1: Because they have seven combined weggies on the year. That

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Speaker 1: is our you know, clubhouse leader when it comes to teams.

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Speaker 1: Six different players have stuck a weggie for the Kings.

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Speaker 1: Drew Eubanks has two, Okay, Nee Clifford, the rookie Sabonis

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Speaker 1: when he was playing, Monk had one, Keegan Murray and

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Speaker 1: now Killian Hayes.

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Speaker 2: There you go. I can't believe we're at seventy one, Wedgy.

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Speaker 2: That's insane.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, I'm getting ahead of myself now. It

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Speaker 1: feels like eighty might be in play.

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Speaker 2: We're we're hitting Bam out of bio numbers.

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Speaker 1: Whoa wow, Yeah that's right. Barry Bonds is on our list.

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Speaker 1: First gotta beat Bonds and then maybe Bam will be

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Speaker 1: next in line. I guess maybe Kobe then Bam.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're getting it.

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Speaker 1: We're getting all right, seventy one weggies. Okay, let's get

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Speaker 1: into a few of last night's games and then later

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Speaker 1: on we're gonna do the updown report because I got

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Speaker 1: some fun questions for you to throw some thumbs on

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Speaker 1: and everybody to play along. But let's start with the

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Speaker 1: I think the game of the night last night Jaellen

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Speaker 1: Brown scoring thirty five points as the Celtics ashes. Celtics

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Speaker 1: beat the Hornets one thirteen, one oh two. They take

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Speaker 1: the season series. This is a potential playoff matchup. Not

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Speaker 1: a good loss for the Hornets in terms of the standings,

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Speaker 1: especially with some of the other results, but we could

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Speaker 1: still see this. Your takeaways from an entertaining at least

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Speaker 1: Celtics Hornets game.

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Speaker 2: I mean it was super fun. Yeah, I love watching

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Speaker 2: LaMelo play, man. I think everybody in the country loves

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Speaker 2: watching LaMelo play. On. This exciting. I'm happy for them

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Speaker 2: that they're like in the hunt for the playoffs and

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Speaker 2: they look good. But yeah, the Celtics look great right now.

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Speaker 2: I am so excited as a Celtics fan here just

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Speaker 2: because like Tatum and Brown people, I heard you guys

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Speaker 2: talking about this yesterday, you and Ben talking about, oh

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Speaker 2: can Tatum and Brown figure it out? As if they

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Speaker 2: didn't just win the championship.

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Speaker 1: Hold on, Ben said that I encountered, well, when are

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Speaker 1: we talking boy's still doing this.

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Speaker 2: I don't understand how we can keep saying that they've

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Speaker 2: won a championship. Okay, they might have flamed that last year.

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Speaker 2: Tatum got hurt, obviously, but him coming back. He scored

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Speaker 2: twenty points in his last six games. Yeap, like he's back.

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Speaker 2: He looks good. The Celtics are healthy for the first

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Speaker 2: time all year. They're going to the playoffs healthy, Like,

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Speaker 2: just keep up that momentum. Like Lusevich. People are a

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Speaker 2: little worried about who cares. We don't. They don't need him.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you don't think you need him to

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Speaker 1: win a title. I mean I think they might not

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Speaker 1: think at some point they're gonna need to get something

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Speaker 1: from their center position, backup center position. Yeah, Boochs looked bad,

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Speaker 1: like he's coming back from a hand injury. I think

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Speaker 1: he was one for ten last night. How many good

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Speaker 2: No, No, I don't think.

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Speaker 1: the Bulls revenge game. Well, but I think they do

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Speaker 2: Maybe Gars. Just the way that he's been able to

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Speaker 2: might just be a better fit right now. Like obviously

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Speaker 2: when we get to it, like, is he Kenny perform? Sure,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, But I just don't know if we

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Speaker 2: they are right now, the way that they're playing. Listening

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Speaker 2: to the NBA Day this morning, they're talking about how

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Speaker 2: the Celtics haven't really been playing Missoula ball recently, Like

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Speaker 2: they haven't been shooting a lot of threes like we

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Speaker 2: got Jayalen Brown in the mid range, stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: Like through these playoffs, I think I think they can

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Speaker 2: just really make no noise. I think they're gonna be

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Speaker 2: don't know if I maybe not picked him against the

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Speaker 2: just don't know what else we have you know. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Jalen Brown was awesome.

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Speaker 1: Thirty five points, nine boards, played every minute of the

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Speaker 1: postgame interview, like I was sweating buckets man Patrick style.

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Speaker 1: He was dripping, but he was big. In the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 1: I thought they did an awesome job of like getting

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Speaker 1: Canipple on Jalen Brown as much as possible. Nipple is

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Speaker 1: a big boy, like you know, there was there was

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Speaker 1: one play where like Jaylen Brown tried to back him

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Speaker 1: he's strong. But that said, I think Jalen liked the matchup,

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Speaker 1: like he could create enough separation on the rook I

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Speaker 2: They were sort of attacking him a lot.

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Speaker 1: And again it wasn't like ooh, he was like reaching

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Speaker 1: at things or bad fouls. It was just like Jalen

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Speaker 1: seeking it out. So little history for Jalen Brown. Last night,

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Speaker 1: he surpassed two thousand points on the season, becoming just

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Speaker 1: the eighth Celtics player to do so in a single season.

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Speaker 1: You want to take a crack at some trivia here

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Speaker 1: naming other Celtics players to hit two thousand points, which

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Speaker 1: Uh, Paul Pierce four times?

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Speaker 2: Take him twice?

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Speaker 1: Okay, now it gets a little more difficult. We got

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Speaker 1: some oldies and some more, at least one being Michale.

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Speaker 1: McHale did it once. Okay, Okay, good stuff we got.

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Speaker 1: We got two older guys th Michale older than Mackel.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, legendary Celtics players have the chick twice?

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Speaker 2: Wow? Can you pull this off?

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Speaker 1: Now? You got one super old guy and you've got

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Speaker 1: one more in the last.

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Speaker 2: Uh, I guess or Bill Bill Russell?

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Speaker 1: No, Sam Jones is going to be Okay, Sam Jones,

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Speaker 1: but I think small guy. He had an All NBA

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Speaker 1: year with the Celtics, sort of sort of out of nowhere.

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Speaker 2: Thomas, there we go, sir, well done.

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Speaker 1: Not a sniffle even said that? Trip or heard?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 1: And now Jaylen Brown obviously adds his name to the list.

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Speaker 1: So pretty impressive.

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Speaker 2: You love to see it, You love to see it.

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Speaker 1: The other thing I was loving with this game is

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Speaker 1: It was like a good back and forth affair, and

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Speaker 1: I thought a really good test for the Hornets here

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Speaker 1: if they trying to get into the playoffs or through

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Speaker 1: the play in and over those last four nights, I

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Speaker 1: was thinking, Oh, here we go. Playoff basketball is right

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Speaker 1: around the corner. What I mean by that is like

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Speaker 1: Saturday Spurs Nuggets overtime thriller, easy game of the Year candidate.

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Speaker 1: Sunday Rockets spoiled Steph Curry's return one point victory.

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Speaker 2: They ran a play.

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Speaker 1: Down the stretch, Ye got the bucket inside, Curry missed

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Speaker 1: the three entertaining Monday insane Nick Hawk's game. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: were you down at the fortress for that one. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you know the shot where McCollum throws it up from

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Speaker 1: past half court banks in but it's just on his fingertips.

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Speaker 1: But that one had like Nikhil Alexander Walker hitting clutch

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Speaker 1: They're on a seven game win stream, seven straight. This

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Speaker 2: No, but I'd love to see them be competitive.

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Speaker 1: We didn't talk about any of those that, Yeah, you

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Speaker 2: they look really good and you're like, Wow, that guy's

433
00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:46,680
Speaker 2: gonna be good. We've seen it with Tyler Herroes. Know

434
00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:50,160
Speaker 2: how many hawk is Yep, it's probably another one in there. Yeah,

435
00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:53,040
Speaker 2: why can't they ever figure it out and just play

436
00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,680
Speaker 2: good basketball consistently? I don't know what it is.

437
00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, there are perennial playing team now. I think this

438
00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,240
Speaker 1: is a fourth straight year that they're in the plane.

439
00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,360
Speaker 2: It doesn't make sense to me. Heat culture down there,

440
00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,760
Speaker 2: and then everything that happened with Jimmy Butler, like that's

441
00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:09,040
Speaker 2: kind of a I don't even want to call him

442
00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:10,440
Speaker 2: a joke, but they're kind of becoming a joke of

443
00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,679
Speaker 2: franchise a little bit. I don't understand what's going on

444
00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,480
Speaker 2: down there. But other than that, I really wanted to

445
00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,000
Speaker 2: talk about the Pelicans because they put up fifty points

446
00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:22,120
Speaker 2: in a quarter and then Jordan Poole had twenty two

447
00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,080
Speaker 2: of his thirty four in the third quarter. They were

448
00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:28,240
Speaker 2: just there's just a game of two K on roocky mode, honestly,

449
00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,800
Speaker 2: like it was insane. Every time you press the button,

450
00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:35,240
Speaker 2: the balls going in, and what is this crazy to me?

451
00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,679
Speaker 1: We'll get to WOA Boy obviously later. There were three

452
00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:43,040
Speaker 1: nominees from this game for WOA Boy and the winner.

453
00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,320
Speaker 1: I won't spoil it, but there were three guys with

454
00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:49,360
Speaker 1: stat lines from this game alone Jazz Pelicans early April

455
00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,040
Speaker 1: that you know, we're putting up huge, huge lines here

456
00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,640
Speaker 1: because they're just like, let's go have some fun. Yeah,

457
00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:56,240
Speaker 1: rookie mode on two K is a great way to

458
00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,800
Speaker 1: put it. Fifty in the third quarter, follow it up

459
00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,720
Speaker 1: with forty five in the four forty five to forty

460
00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,840
Speaker 1: one fourth quarter. I mean, it's the fun game to

461
00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:06,959
Speaker 1: play in. If you're an NBA player, like sort of

462
00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,280
Speaker 1: like a fringe NBA player, it's like, oh, geez, we

463
00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,720
Speaker 1: don't have to play defense. Okay, just come to shoot.

464
00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:13,879
Speaker 2: Just come to shoot. That's that's the end of the

465
00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,240
Speaker 2: day at the pickup Run for sure, Like, oh, this

466
00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,840
Speaker 2: is the last game, all right, Yeah, we just we're firing,

467
00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:20,520
Speaker 2: but they're actually hitting shots, you know.

468
00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. Usually the last run out of pickup Run is

469
00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,520
Speaker 1: the worst one. Yeah, the extra one where you're like,

470
00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:27,639
Speaker 1: we probably should have ended on that half decent game,

471
00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:29,640
Speaker 1: but let's run it back one more and then that's

472
00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:30,840
Speaker 1: the one where nobody can hit a shot.

473
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Speaker 2: Everybody's tired at our level at least. Uh.

474
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Speaker 1: Draymond Green did have some things to say after getting

475
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Speaker 1: the victory over the Kings last night. He called out

476
00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,800
Speaker 1: the tanking Kings. Then he had a lot of thoughts

477
00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:44,960
Speaker 1: on the play in tournament too. Set it ain't working,

478
00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,639
Speaker 1: So a couple things. Let's start with the playing party,

479
00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:53,280
Speaker 1: Draymond Green said. Rather than discouraged tanking, Green believes this

480
00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:57,240
Speaker 1: play in tournament has just made it convenient to do so.

481
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Speaker 1: So he cited this blatant example last night with the Kings,

482
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:04,400
Speaker 1: and it was pretty crazy. It was a one possession game,

483
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:09,320
Speaker 1: a one point game, Warriors Kings. Doug Christie told his

484
00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:13,400
Speaker 1: players he seemed to tell Doug McDermott to foul Seth Curry,

485
00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,639
Speaker 1: there's three minutes left and put them like at the

486
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:18,800
Speaker 1: line because they were already in the bonus, already in

487
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,879
Speaker 1: the penalty, and it was like, what what do we do?

488
00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,080
Speaker 1: Seth Curry, by the way, hadn't missed a free throw

489
00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,080
Speaker 1: all season long now, he hadn't played a lot, he'd

490
00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,359
Speaker 1: been injured, but he was like, he was perfect at

491
00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,240
Speaker 1: the line. He's a great retrow shooter. He's one of

492
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,640
Speaker 1: the best shooters ever. His brother is the greatest shooter ever.

493
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,160
Speaker 1: He's not bad too. Yeah.

494
00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,080
Speaker 2: Now, the funniest part is he missed one.

495
00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:43,480
Speaker 1: So it's like words amazically Doug Christy, you know, genius there.

496
00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,439
Speaker 1: But yeah, Dreymund's like, what are we doing here? Like

497
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,080
Speaker 1: they're like the idea is like they're blatantly trying to

498
00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:50,600
Speaker 1: tank away this game.

499
00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,280
Speaker 2: They don't want to win. Yeah.

500
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Speaker 1: I don't know what happened. I haven't heard Doug Christie

501
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,000
Speaker 1: talk about it. Why would you foul Seth Curry? I

502
00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,920
Speaker 1: think there was some miscommunication. I think they were saying

503
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 1: foul Pat Spencer. Huh, who's not as great a three

504
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 1: free throw shooter? Foul him, maybe put him on the line.

505
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 1: It's probably still a weird decision. But then they just

506
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:09,280
Speaker 1: got it.

507
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, like why why are you fouling and you're down

508
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:16,240
Speaker 2: by one with time level? Very straight. I guess my

509
00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 2: question is like he's he's calling out the Tank and Kings,

510
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 2: he's talking about them, but then he starts talking about

511
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 2: to play in tournment, Like what does what does that

512
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,440
Speaker 2: have to do with the Kings in this situation.

513
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good point. Well, he said this quote,

514
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,400
Speaker 1: we could have lost our last fifteen games talking about

515
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 1: the Warriors and been stuck in tenth. It ain't working,

516
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,199
Speaker 1: you know, but it works for a little bit. But

517
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,359
Speaker 1: you know, if you could lose all last fifteen games

518
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,080
Speaker 1: of your season when you could be stuck in tenth

519
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:46,879
Speaker 1: in eight working, I think what Draymond Green is just

520
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,160
Speaker 1: saying is there are so many bad teams this year

521
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 1: that are leaning into the tank. Uh huh that like

522
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,359
Speaker 1: we've struggled, we could just go on an epic losing

523
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 1: streak and we're still not even moving. So he's like,

524
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 1: I guess he's just illustrating, like look where we are

525
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 1: fighting to get in and you know, getting Curry back

526
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 1: and try and make some noise. But it's like we

527
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 1: could have gone on like an ultimate losing streak and

528
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:11,679
Speaker 1: it wouldn't have mattered because all these other teams have

529
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 1: leaned into tanking so early. And that was a big

530
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,639
Speaker 1: discussion this year, right, Yeah, there's always tanking talk comes

531
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 1: in March, comes late March, you know, like Shenanigan's at

532
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 1: the end of a season. We've seen that for decades,

533
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,239
Speaker 1: but this year it was like teams before the All

534
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 1: Star breaks seemed to be doing the Shenanigans and the

535
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 1: sitting guys down and injuries and blah blah blah blah blah.

536
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:35,679
Speaker 2: I guess that's what Draymond saying. I know. And then

537
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 2: we've been talking about tanking forever and which.

538
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 1: Is why I'm happy the playoffs are right around the corner.

539
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 2: Yes, thank god, because every every week is what can

540
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 2: we do the fixed tanking? What can Adam Silver do?

541
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 2: What are we gonna do? We're gonna look at this,

542
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 2: We're gonna look at that, and it's just like nothing's

543
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 2: gonna change, Like they're gonna do it forever.

544
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 1: You don't think one of the proposals, this idea of

545
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 1: the eight percent to sort of all the teams, including

546
00:23:58,040 --> 00:23:59,680
Speaker 1: you know, the top ten I guess it was, would

547
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 1: get percent chance and then teams uh that were even

548
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 1: in the play and and stuff like that getting a

549
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:04,879
Speaker 1: much smaller percent.

550
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 2: You like evening it out. Look, what's how do you

551
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 2: how do you get your draft? Uh slot? What do

552
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,160
Speaker 2: they do? They do? A lottery? Lottery is what gambling?

553
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 2: Look at this country, you know what I mean, it's always.

554
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 1: Gonna just hold that thought.

555
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 2: Come on, man, Like, yeah, okay, even odds doesn't matter

556
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 2: if you have a one percent chance, Like people played

557
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 2: the lottery every day. People go to a casino every day.

558
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:33,159
Speaker 2: These odds are the same. The gms are gonna be like, Okay,

559
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,920
Speaker 2: we suck. We could suck more and we could get

560
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,439
Speaker 2: better through the draft. Like, no matter what they do,

561
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 2: they're they're gonna they're gonna feel that way. And like

562
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 2: you said, tanking has been a part of the game forever,

563
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,479
Speaker 2: even before the draft lottery, even like even back when

564
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,680
Speaker 2: they used to just give the worst team the number

565
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 2: one pick, Like, no matter what we do, they're going

566
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 2: to they're going to tank.

567
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with that, but you have to admit

568
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 1: this has gotten uglier than normal or more blatant than normal,

569
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 1: and maybe it's the loaded draft of it all, and

570
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 1: you know, and really wanting a chance at one of

571
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,159
Speaker 1: these top top picks, which is why we're having the

572
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 1: battle to the bottom. But Draymond's other point, you know,

573
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 1: we don't have the clip. But he did say, like

574
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 1: we have no problem finding players. He's talking about himself

575
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 1: a lot of times. They're like when I cross the

576
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 1: line or I do something wrong or something bad for

577
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,679
Speaker 1: the game or whatever I'm paraphrasing here. But he's like,

578
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 1: why aren't we doing that with these teams that do it?

579
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:28,959
Speaker 1: And like to that, I say, like, maybe he's got

580
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 1: a point, like does someone just need to like rule

581
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,159
Speaker 1: with an iron fist a little bit more here, Like

582
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,120
Speaker 1: I know some teams have been fined, yeah, the Jazz

583
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 1: Jazz and the Pacers, but there are many other teams

584
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 1: that they could have been coming down on and you

585
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 1: just heard them where like hit him where it hurts,

586
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 1: and that is the wallet for for ownership in the

587
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:45,879
Speaker 1: front office and stuff like that.

588
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's the same as like

589
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 2: with these injuries and resting and stuff like that, Like

590
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 2: teams always find a way to come up with some

591
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 2: kind of excuse to get around something. You know, So

592
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 2: I guess when you say, oh, that team's tanking, let's

593
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 2: put a big fine on it, it's like, how can

594
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 2: you prove that. I know, they were talking about sending

595
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 2: doctors to see if people are hurt for real, Like,

596
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 2: I don't know what that is, and maybe that's a

597
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 2: slippery slope. But there's always there's always gonna be something

598
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 2: that they can find a loophole to tank or arrest

599
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 2: somebody or whatever that the league doesn't really like. So

600
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know, like if you if you

601
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 2: start putting funds on teams, I'm sure they'll just find

602
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 2: a way around it. And then I don't. I don't

603
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 2: want to insult the integrity of the NBA by saying, like, oh,

604
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 2: these guys are going out there like throwing games, because

605
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 2: I don't think like players don't take the players organizations right.

606
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: So it's the coaching, it's really the organization the front

607
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 1: office of like electing, because they're incentivized to do so

608
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 1: to save their asses as gms or executives, like get

609
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 1: a draft pick, have that player who can be a

610
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 1: game changer in the NBA. That's the other thing this sport.

611
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 1: More than most one guy can like completely turn around

612
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 1: a franchise, yeah, hope alone and then results on the

613
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,160
Speaker 1: floor and you can lock them up for seven years.

614
00:26:58,200 --> 00:26:59,919
Speaker 1: That's the other part of this equation, right, it's like

615
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 1: the best way forward. Sorry to jump in there.

616
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,360
Speaker 2: No, I guess when you say it though, like when

617
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 2: you say that, it sounds not that bad, like tanking

618
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 2: maybe should just be a part of the game. We

619
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 2: have teams that are gonna be perennially good or perennially

620
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 2: mid see the Hawks usually, But you're gonna have teams

621
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 2: that are gonna be bad. And how do you get

622
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 2: back you know, like, no matter what it is, how

623
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 2: do you get back into the conversation of being mid

624
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 2: being good? Like every team in the NBA's history, all

625
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 2: thirty organizations have at some point probably tanked, unless they

626
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 2: have been the luckiest organization. But even even the Spurs

627
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 2: did it back in the day to get Tim Duncan.

628
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 2: Like every organization has done it.

629
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 1: So why is it louder now? Why is the noise

630
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: around tanking louder? I think it goes back to what

631
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: you're saying about the gambling part, yeah, because now people

632
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: are betting on all these games, they're betting player props,

633
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,199
Speaker 1: they're betting whether a guy's playing or not. Yeah, and

634
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 1: then when you have all these shenanigans of sitting guys

635
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 1: down or whatever, like then it's like all the gamblers

636
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 1: are like, what the hell exactly when you got into

637
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 1: bed with this and you sort of.

638
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 2: On top of on top of social media in the

639
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 2: era that we live in that we complain about everything

640
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 2: like well, yeah, so I think that's part of it,

641
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 2: is like, hey, this is my team, I would like, Well,

642
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 2: I don't even know if the fans of the specific

643
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 2: team are they complaining or is it the fame? I

644
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 2: don't think so.

645
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 1: A lot of time, I just said, Nets fans from

646
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:19,640
Speaker 1: what I saw, were actually.

647
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 2: Angry their teams winning. What are we doing?

648
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: We were bad all year and now we're gonna maybe

649
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 1: blow our chances or our percentage of maybe getting it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, how how many times have you heard like

651
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,479
Speaker 2: this team, like with the Bulls with trade even right,

652
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 2: he's always like we gotta do something. We've been here

653
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 2: pick aside. Yeah, so do we do we want to

654
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 2: just be the ten seed every single year? No? But

655
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 2: what do we do, Like, let's go ahead and just

656
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 2: be the fifteenth seed. Let's just be bad so we

657
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 2: can get better. Right, So that's the thing. Yeah, it's

658
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 2: it's it's messy.

659
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 1: You know. I'm a little worried that the NBA will

660
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 1: overreact to this noise on Twitter and people, because, like

661
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 1: you bring up the point like the other night where

662
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 1: we have the Friday Night there were all those blowouts

663
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: and it was like, you know, I say, it's a

664
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 1: big deal, but because you're online, if you're locked in online,

665
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: it feels like it's like crazy, Right, there's a lot

666
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: more important things going on in the world right now

667
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: than a bunch of blow up you know, lopsided victories

668
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: on Friday Night or losses. But it's like, why do

669
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 1: you care. I know, those people complaining about it, we're

670
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: not watching said games. They didn't pay for tickets for

671
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: those games.

672
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 2: It's like, okay, I get it.

673
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: No one wants that. We want competitive games as many

674
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: as possible. There's like over twelve hundred games played. They're

675
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: not all going to end like in a one possession

676
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: game exactly, so and again they're incentivized to do This

677
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 1: is the whole other part of it and until that changes,

678
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 1: I mean, what like it's gonna they ain't fixing it

679
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 1: this year, of course, but a weird product. I guess

680
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 1: you can argue it's a very weird product in some

681
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: of these games in March and April. I think the

682
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: worst part was when we were doing it in February

683
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Speaker 1: and we were talking about in February.

684
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the worst part.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's take a break and when we

686
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Speaker 1: I would wait till plays more fun. The sweat's a

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Speaker 1: lot more fun. All right, let's get into the up

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Speaker 1: down report.

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Speaker 2: Patty want movies.

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Speaker 1: Ash here and everyone in the stream team and podcast

711
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: listeners play along, thumbs up or down. First one NBA

712
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 1: insider Shams Sharanya, dropped a lengthy article on ESPN yesterday

713
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: titled Inside the Fractured Relationship between Yannis and the Bucks.

714
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: Some people were calling this a bombshell from Shams. Others

715
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: said it was a fairly generic summary really of what

716
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Speaker 1: Shams has been tweeting and writing about over the last

717
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: couple of months. What we are now calling my big

718
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: fat Greek divorce. That's what we've decided on. That was

719
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: somebody in the stream team the other day when I

720
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 1: was talking to Zicarion about it. The yawness was proposed

721
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: a couple other ones, but I like my big fat

722
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: Greek divorce.

723
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 2: But the article, let's get back to that upper down.

724
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: Ash On Scham's article on this season long conflict here

725
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: between Jannis and the Bucks.

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00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 2: I mean, good article, but I'm down. Okay, I'm down

727
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 2: just because I'm so tired of talking about it, Like

728
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 2: this has been a topic in every show that you've watched,

729
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 2: every podcast that you listen to. Anytime you're in an

730
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 2: arena and somebody starts talking about Giannis here, it is

731
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 2: like it's such a headache. Man, Like, just say, you've

732
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 2: said this a lot. You don't have to be the

733
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 2: good guy all the time. And also nobody's gonna say

734
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 2: you're a bad guy if you wanted to leave. It's

735
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 2: the same thing with Dame before in Portland. It's just like,

736
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 2: if you want to get out of here, you want

737
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 2: to win, You've done your due diligence, and it's even

738
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 2: better for your honest because they want a championship exactly

739
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 2: like you don't have to be a bug for life.

740
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 2: They haven't done completely right by you. Nobody's gonna call

741
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 2: you Kevin Durant. Nobody's gonna call you og Lebron. Just

742
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 2: just say you want to get out of there because

743
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,959
Speaker 2: it's not the right fit anymore. And it's okay, instead

744
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 2: of going through all these back channels and being like, hey,

745
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 2: I gotta want out of here, but going to the

746
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 2: public and being like, hey, it's not up to me,

747
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 2: it's up to my agent. But also I kind of

748
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 2: told my agent I don't want to be here, and

749
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 2: also like, there's no point in that. It's so silly

750
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 2: to me. It's middle school to me. Yeah, what was

751
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 2: new in this article from Shams is a fair question.

752
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 2: There were some fun nuggets.

753
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Speaker 1: I mean, the one that's getting aggregated is the doc

754
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:18,479
Speaker 1: Rivers telling the team to google me check the resume

755
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: when they were struggling, and he saying, you know, like

756
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: I'm a Hall of Fame coach and he just went

757
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Speaker 1: into the Hall of Fame.

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00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was pretty funny.

759
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Speaker 1: We had Shams talking about this idea that multiple sources

760
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: said the Bucks decision to sit Yannis cost him a

761
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: significant bonus in his Nike endorsement contract that would have

762
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 1: been triggered had he played at least forty one games.

763
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Speaker 1: That's a little eye opening, because a part of this

764
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Speaker 1: is like.

765
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Speaker 2: Giannest is like, I gotta get back out there. I

766
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 2: gotta play. I gotta play.

767
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: I don't care if we're he can't even get into

768
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: the plan now, And everybody is going.

769
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 2: Like, it's a little weird.

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Speaker 1: You've been injured all year long, You've had like five injuries,

771
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Speaker 1: So what's what's really going on here? You know this

772
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 1: like he's coached from Survivor this loyal and integrity in

773
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: all this where you roll your eyes at it. But

774
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: people are saying, one, it may just me he wants

775
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: to play with his brothers. True, I really truly believe

776
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 1: that might be a case here, his last opportunity, right, yes, yes, yeah,

777
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: Well another organization hire your brothers and put him on

778
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 1: the on the roster at least two of them, probably not.

779
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 1: And then this other one is like this, maybe contracting

780
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Speaker 1: with Nike.

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00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. I think Honest is doing

782
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 2: okay money wise, but everybody always wants to make more money.

783
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 2: I know, I know, so okay. Interesting.

784
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Speaker 1: Kyle Kuzma apparently spoke to Ryan Rollins and Kevin Porter

785
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:39,919
Speaker 1: Junior after a particularly intense exchange, and again a bad

786
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,919
Speaker 1: run for the box, maybe selfish play. And that word

787
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: about Kuzma talking to these younger guys got back to

788
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 1: the coaching staff and then Kuzma got a DMPCD right

789
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: after that, so that that's a little weird, weird, here's

790
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Speaker 1: what I'm getting out here. Here was my takeaway. This

791
00:34:56,200 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: was Cham's given a big middle finger to be honest,

792
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,919
Speaker 1: and the Bucks really honest more than anyone because they've

793
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: had this sort of contentious relationship all your sham's reporting

794
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 1: and then everybody's sort of firing back your honest every

795
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 1: time talking about it. I didn't ask to be traded.

796
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: I didn't ask to do this. I just want to

797
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: get out there. So this like was this was like

798
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: a little mini Woes from Shamps. Now if Woes wrote

799
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Speaker 1: this score Stirth. Yeah, and so this is Sean, so

800
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: it's a little lighter, a little nicer. But there were some,

801
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: like I thought, some middle fingers, some shots at like

802
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: my reporting says, this is a mess. You're a big

803
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: reason why it got to this point, both of them,

804
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 1: with both the front office and and Jannis and his team.

805
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 2: So that was my interpretation.

806
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're honestly, This was him getting back

807
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 1: at Rannest for uh, you know, the celebrity All Star

808
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: getting incident and stuff like that.

809
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a mess, man, Like, I can't believe we've

810
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 2: been talking about it for so long. I really can.

811
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,919
Speaker 2: We're not done. No, it's not over. It's not gonna

812
00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 2: be over until something happens. And not sure if we win,

813
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 2: something's gonna happen. And that's you do not believe.

814
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 1: Well, I don't want to put words in your mouth.

815
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: Do you think Giannis plays Game one for the Milwaukee

816
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 1: Bucks next year the way that things have been going?

817
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 2: Probably? Honest, well, probably you're on it.

818
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I think just because you're saying like at

819
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: this point, like any sort of couple we've ever seen,

820
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: and we're like, why are you still together?

821
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 2: Yeah? What are you guys doing? And for whatever reason,

822
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 2: I just the ones that do stick to what's what's

823
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 2: gonna happen in the summer.

824
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 1: I guess really like it's the extension in October. I

825
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: guess that will decide everything.

826
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Speaker 2: I just feel like he'll probably start a season as

827
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 2: Buck and then we'll get to do this again for

828
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Speaker 2: at least a little bit. Now. I don't know, maybe

829
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 2: they talk themselves into like maybe they get rid of

830
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 2: Doc in the summer, yeah, or he retires whatever, like

831
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 2: there's been rumins about that that he just goes away. Uh.

832
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,760
Speaker 2: And then they talk themselves into maybe we can retool,

833
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 2: which I don't know because even coming to this year

834
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 2: that got mouse Turner, they were like, okay, like, let's

835
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 2: we're gonna reads to a little bit around you, Yannis.

836
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 2: You can't tell what's gonna happen because it's been such

837
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 2: a mess. But I think, yeah, put on a record.

838
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 2: I think he's going to play at least a little

839
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:12,439
Speaker 2: bit as a book.

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00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,919
Speaker 1: I think what we saw from this season alone that's

841
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: malpracticed to that organization. Honestly, it's a cloud. It's obviously

842
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 1: a cloud that hangs over the entire team.

843
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're not good.

844
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: Sorry, they're not good when Giannis was even playing. They're

845
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 1: not good in the Eastern Conference. So I think I'm

846
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: more along the lines that he has dealt here and

847
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 1: moved before the start of the next season. And I

848
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: bring that up before we move on because within the article,

849
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: team sources said the Bucks seriously considered the Miami Heats offer,

850
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: which centered on Tyler hero Khalil where other players and

851
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: multiple draft picks and pickswaps, Milwaukee contemplated moving forward with

852
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: Miami on February fourth. Ownership, however, believe the best move

853
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: would be to hold on to Yannis and receive better

854
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: offers in the summer. And here's where we're at now.

855
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 1: Are they going to get a better offer than that?

856
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 1: You can have an opinion on here, aware other players

857
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:07,399
Speaker 1: pick swaps all that. We'll find out whether a team

858
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: in the postseason comes up short falter and they're like, wow,

859
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 1: we can get you. Honestly, here, let's go all in

860
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 1: with a better package. But I don't know if they are.

861
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,240
Speaker 2: Going to get it. That's what I was gonna say. Actually,

862
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,320
Speaker 2: do you think, like what do you think the consensus

863
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 2: is on your honest right now? Like how do you

864
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 2: think teams feel about him both as a player because

865
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 2: he hasn't been injured a lot here recently and the

866
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 2: drama that has come out, right, like.

867
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, I look, if I'm a team that's

868
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: like on the precipice, I'm making this move ninety nine

869
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,879
Speaker 1: out of one hundred times like this is and even

870
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: the injury angled like this, why can't this be like

871
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 1: Kawhi two point zero right with with like the raps Like.

872
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,879
Speaker 2: Okay, now now they bought low on Kawhi.

873
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 1: I mean it really wasn't a lot when they got

874
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 1: him from the Spurs, but he's still an elite player

875
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: and then he just completely carried a team to an

876
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,879
Speaker 1: NBA championship. Yeah, so I I mean, do I believe

877
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 1: you honestly? We've like seen the best of the best

878
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 1: from you honest, like well maybe m v P honest Okay,

879
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: that's in the rear view mirror. But like he's still

880
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 1: when he plays like he's like a top five guy

881
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 1: uh and Andrond and around more talent like we saw

882
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 1: in Milwaukee when he had Middleton and duality, he can win.

883
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 1: So I would you know, again, if the Knicks flame

884
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: out here the Rockets, maybe there are teams that were like,

885
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 1: holy crap, if you could add you honest, like, then

886
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:24,280
Speaker 1: you're a title contender.

887
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 2: So I would do it.

888
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think if I'm being honest too, like like

889
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: like that's a decent offer. Again, I'm fascinated to see

890
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 1: whether the Bucks will do better than that, because to me,

891
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: it's going to be something like that hero where who

892
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 1: who I am high on and then more picks and

893
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: more players over that. So we'll see that's enough on

894
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: you honest, Sham's getting his shot back at at the

895
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: Greek Freak oh the frea cough that was the other name.

896
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: If he goes to Atlanta that we're definitely the free

897
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 1: coft all right. Uh. Shaquille O'Neil and T and T

898
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:03,760
Speaker 1: Sports are launching dunk Man, a professional dunking league this summer.

899
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: Shaq is going to serve as commissioner. Uh, just another

900
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: another title to add to Shaquille o'neils resume. The inaugural

901
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,919
Speaker 1: season will feature twenty four athletes competing across four group

902
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,399
Speaker 1: stage events, with finalists competing for the title of World

903
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 1: dunk Champion and a five hundred thousand dollars grand prize.

904
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 2: Ain't no bad, I thought nothing.

905
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: The league will use an Olympic style scoring system with

906
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: a panel of judges. Okay, so are we gonna have

907
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 1: the Russians on the panel here?

908
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:36,879
Speaker 2: Up or down?

909
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: On Shack and T and T launching dunk Man Professional

910
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 1: dunk League.

911
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 2: I'm up? He stumbs up. Yeah, okay, why not? Like

912
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 2: everybody loves to watch people dunk, It's always fun and

913
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,919
Speaker 2: T and T. They always have some dunk competition after

914
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 2: the season. Every time they have, they've basically done this before.

915
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 2: They had the Dunk King, the Dunk King. Yeah, and

916
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 2: Shaq was involved in it, Jack Kinney both, They've got

917
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 2: it almost for ten years. I feel like there's been

918
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 2: a variation on and off of Dunk King, Dunk Man whatever.

919
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 2: You watched them. I did the first like two okay,

920
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 2: like years and years ago, and they weren't bad. They

921
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 2: had Jordan killing in it, and you know, he's he's

922
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 2: apparently going to be on this of course, because it's

923
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 2: always the same guys anyway, right right, You're never mad

924
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 2: at it. It's the same guys that compete in like

925
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 2: a Creator League dunk contest or something like on YouTube

926
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 2: or whatever. It's always Jordan you speak, Kitty Dobbs was

927
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 2: always in one. Yeah, yeah, I know you're talking about so, yeah,

928
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 2: I was. I can't even know Chris Uh. I can't

929
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 2: even think of his name right now, but you know

930
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 2: him like you just see him all over your Instagram,

931
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 2: all over your tiktoks. Like it's going to be the

932
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 2: same guys, and most likely it's going to be one

933
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 2: of those five or six guys that win this thing too,

934
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 2: you think, so most.

935
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: Like, well, you never know, with the five hundred thousand dollars,

936
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 1: maybe we got some new blood and I.

937
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 2: Think I think we see some crazy dunks. But also

938
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 2: as up as I am on this, it always is

939
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:01,320
Speaker 2: kind of crazy because, uh, this coming from TNT or

940
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 2: Shack or anybody that's involved in the NBA. Usually then

941
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 2: it just kind of makes you realize, like there's so

942
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 2: many better dunkers than NBA dunkers. And then you're thinking

943
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,359
Speaker 2: about the Dunk contest at all start weekend and you're

944
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 2: like you just kind of wish that this was during

945
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 2: that time or something. You know, it just you see

946
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 2: these crazy don't He's like, Wow, that was awesome. Nobody

947
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 2: in the NBA can do this. It's just like that

948
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 2: kind of makes you a little bit sad. I think. Yeah.

949
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: I think when Shaq was announcing this with the March

950
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 1: Madness panel, when he was talking to like back with

951
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 1: Kenny and Ernie and Chuck and like a million other

952
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 1: guys sitting there, he brought up or they started talking

953
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: about this idea of like the NBA used to have

954
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 1: the best dunkers in the world exactly true, Yes, they did,

955
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: hands down. I think most people would agree with that.

956
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: But then that's changed over the last whatever decade or two,

957
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: where it's now professional guys. People can make a living

958
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,240
Speaker 1: doing this, and they may not be good enough basketball players.

959
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 1: They're obviously not good enough to make it in the

960
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:59,760
Speaker 1: NBA exactly for whatever reason, size, just skill, shooting, defense,

961
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:03,800
Speaker 1: all a million other things. But which is why we

962
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 1: start something like this? Maybe like who's just proved who's

963
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 1: the best dunker?

964
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm up on this.

965
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 1: I want to know if this is live these group

966
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 1: stage events, probably not.

967
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 2: Right, probably not.

968
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: I think that'd be pretty cool if it was like

969
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: more like to me than it's like whoa, this really

970
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 1: is a sport, yes, played live air live. Judge Live

971
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 1: my gut says it will be a produced thing and

972
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 1: edited and stuff, And maybe that's fine too, But I

973
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 1: also wonder, like, well, the dunk champion, the World dunk champion,

974
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: get a slot in the NBA Dunk Contest.

975
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 2: They should do it. Be cool. They would never do it, though,

976
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 2: but they should do it. That would be fun, yeah,

977
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 2: but they would. It would because if All Star Weekend

978
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 2: is for the fans, that's how you put on a show.

979
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 2: You're like, hey, let me show you this. This is

980
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 2: a pro NBA player who's not a pro dunker, and

981
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 2: here's a pro dunker that's not a pro basketball player.

982
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 2: Let's just see what that looks like. But I think

983
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 2: the NBA would hate it because they'd be like, ooh,

984
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 2: now we look even worse, like we just had a

985
00:43:58,040 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 2: G league guy come in and win three years in

986
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 2: a row. Yeah, I had a okay dunk consists this year. Sure, okay,

987
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 2: but then we do that. Who won the dunk contest

988
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:07,839
Speaker 2: this year? What's his name? From the heat? That's all

989
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 2: I know. He's Smiley, danced a lot, but I cannot

990
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 2: remember his name.

991
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 1: That's why I Johnson, Keldon Johns. No, one's not killed

992
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 1: in Johnson. Not Kelton Johnson. Uh No, not Kiln Johnson.

993
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 2: What the hell is per se? There you go? You

994
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 2: got yourself. It sounds like Keldon. Now I gotta look

995
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 2: I hook it up. What the hell is this name? Wait?

996
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 2: Hold on, it's killed No, it's not Kevin Johnson. Is

997
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 2: not Kildon Johnson.

998
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 1: We'll find out here. Hold on, somebody in the chat

999
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:38,760
Speaker 1: is probably telling us right now. I know it sounded

1000
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: like Keldon k e Okay, well point point proven you

1001
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 1: you and then backfired on to me.

1002
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 2: You almost had me. I was like, yeah, no, no,

1003
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:49,320
Speaker 2: I know, I know.

1004
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,280
Speaker 1: I knew it wasn't killed neither. I knew it sounded

1005
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,399
Speaker 1: like it. So we'll see what they do here. Maybe

1006
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 1: this does numbers. T n T obviously lost a lot

1007
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: of uh, you know, lost the NBA, So it's like,

1008
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 1: stay within the basketball world and try something like this.

1009
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're doing it with the Anthony Davis's prank show.

1010
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:10,280
Speaker 1: Yes, didn't they just get Draymond. I didn't watch the clip.

1011
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 1: I've only seen that clip, okay, and it was okay.

1012
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, it's it's okay, okay.

1013
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 2: I don't know next one.

1014
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 1: This one's perfect fresh because he's a he's a shoe guy.

1015
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: He's a sneaker head. Since parting ways with under arm

1016
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 1: Or last November, Steph Curry has leaned into being a

1017
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 1: sneaker free agent.

1018
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 2: They basically have called.

1019
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 1: Him sporting new shoes before and during games, from Kobe

1020
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,959
Speaker 1: Elevin's to Jordan's flu game shoes. I mean, every band,

1021
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 1: every brand imaginable. He's like teasing us though, what could

1022
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: be the next move like, was he gonna sign with

1023
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 1: Nike's gonna go with one of these brands? Well, now,

1024
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 1: this fun idea with showing off these shoes met a

1025
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,760
Speaker 1: great cause because he's going to auction off his sneaker

1026
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 1: free agency collection, all of them signed, which is pretty cool,

1027
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: and one hundred percent of the proceeds are going to

1028
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,359
Speaker 1: go to his Eat Learn, Play foundation that to fit

1029
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: kids in Oakland.

1030
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 2: So up or down on.

1031
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 1: Steph auctioning off seventy plus pairs of sneakers for charity.

1032
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 2: Super up. Yeah, it's just really cool in general, Like,

1033
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 2: I'm glad that he can give back. It's always good

1034
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 2: to see stuff like that. Everybody loves Steph Curry. He's

1035
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 2: a great guy, you know. But the shoe watch was

1036
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 2: one of the best subplots for the season, like while

1037
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 2: he was playing, even even for me, like on my

1038
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,359
Speaker 2: side of things as soon as like every day, every

1039
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 2: day I'm looking at that, I'm pitching stories to my bosses.

1040
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 2: I'm like, hey, can we do something on Steph curry shoes? Like,

1041
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 2: I gotta do something Steph Curry's shoes. So did you

1042
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 2: end up doing it? Yeah? I did a little. Something

1043
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 2: turned out okay. I did something with Jason Jones. Yeah,

1044
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 2: I remember seeing yeah, yeah, yeah, But it was just

1045
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 2: really cool just to see, like, hey, what's he coming

1046
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 2: in here with today? And he's he's showing off basically

1047
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 2: three pairs every night because he's he's coming in pregame

1048
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:50,879
Speaker 2: with one, he's warming up in one, he's playing in one.

1049
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 2: And it was just nice to see, like, who's he

1050
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,399
Speaker 2: paying homage shoe today? You know, playing against Clay, He's

1051
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,919
Speaker 2: wearing like Clay's shoes. He's Warren Kyrie's shoes. He's Warren Lebron.

1052
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 2: Yeah and so, and then Anthony Edwards talked about how

1053
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 2: cool it was to see Steph Craig and his shoes.

1054
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 2: So it's just a really cool thing all season long.

1055
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 2: I really want to see who he signs with. I

1056
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,920
Speaker 2: would personally like to see him go back to Nike, uh,

1057
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 2: because it's be really nice. They make really good shoes,

1058
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 2: like Sabrina's are good. Right now. Kobe's been back with

1059
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,800
Speaker 2: the Protos and stuff like that, so uh to have

1060
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 2: Steph back in a Steph Curry one officially after they

1061
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 2: watched his uh, his meeting way back in the day

1062
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 2: that allowed him to go to Under armour. Be nice

1063
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 2: to see him come back to Nike.

1064
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 1: Have you fired up the Southerby's sort of auction here

1065
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: and looked at the shoes yet?

1066
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 2: Like do you have a favorite? Is my question from

1067
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 2: that that he's that he's worn here in this I

1068
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 2: haven't looked at every single thing that he's worn, but

1069
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 2: if I'm trying to think off the top of my head,

1070
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 2: like he definitely had a pair of Kobe's, like the

1071
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 2: yellow ones, Like that's the one actually I was thinking about.

1072
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 2: That's the one that sticks out to me the most.

1073
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 2: Those are pretty rare too. Yeah, I remember so, but

1074
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 2: I was kind of here for any time he was

1075
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 2: wearing some Kobe's. It's just like, I don't know why

1076
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 2: fit to me this?

1077
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 1: I agree?

1078
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 2: Good?

1079
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,800
Speaker 1: You know, so they didn't look as good when he

1080
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:14,800
Speaker 1: was wearing the shaknosis in U the one time, the

1081
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 1: big shack.

1082
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 2: Uh. Yeah, but I guess I guess it'd probably be

1083
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 2: a pair of Kobe's.

1084
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, thumbs up, her thumbs down on that, and uh,

1085
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 1: it is pretty fun to go see all the shoes

1086
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:25,800
Speaker 1: he wore. They did like a video on this, and

1087
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 1: I know they took photos and stuff. I mean, how

1088
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,760
Speaker 1: much money they're going to raise here, like these girls signed.

1089
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,359
Speaker 1: That's the other part exactly, that's pretty cool. I didn't

1090
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 1: even think about that part. I was like, oh, that's

1091
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 1: Coolly wore them, you know whatever. But there's video of

1092
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,320
Speaker 1: him signing everyone, and he was like actually when he

1093
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 1: was signing the Jordan's, He's like, wow, I've never signed

1094
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 1: Jordan's before. Uh so that's pretty neat all. Right, final

1095
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: one here, uh. Sticking with shoes, NBA referee Carl Lane

1096
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: was spotted wearing Shay Gildess Alexander's signature converse Shay oh Ones.

1097
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 1: I don't know how you actually pronounced that zero zero

1098
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 1: ones ones sneakers during a recent NBA game. So the

1099
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 1: sighting of the black player exclusive shoes caused a little

1100
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 1: social media buzz, leading to playful trolling from Adidas regarding

1101
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: the partnership. They were sharing screen grabs of that ant

1102
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: commercial where they made sort of fun of all the

1103
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 1: other MVP candidates that yeah, one of them was like

1104
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 1: Shay's favorite accessory the video game. Shay was like a whistle,

1105
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 1: this idea. He gets so up or down though on

1106
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 1: this referee Carl Lane wearing Shay's sneakers are you? Like,

1107
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 1: I mean, a thumbs up to me is like what's

1108
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: the big deal? Thumbs down is like you shouldn't be

1109
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 1: doing this.

1110
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:42,879
Speaker 2: Just because like what is a big deal? But also

1111
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,840
Speaker 2: it got me really thinking, what what are refs wearing?

1112
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 2: That's what I really want to know. Like I did

1113
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 2: a bit of a deep dive on that.

1114
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, like from what I could tell in reading articles, Uh,

1115
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,839
Speaker 1: it did say that referees are forbidden from entering into

1116
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 1: any contract that compensates them for their footwear. So interesting,

1117
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: I assume carl Aane purchased these on his own dime

1118
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,320
Speaker 1: and it wasn't commerce or sche or something like that.

1119
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 2: Hey man, yeah, I don't give you these calls the

1120
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 2: night if you give me a pair of your sneakers.

1121
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: But they must wear black shoes that have the brand name,

1122
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 1: logo or trademark blacked out or removed.

1123
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 2: Interesting, Yeah, so they can't even they can't even endorse

1124
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 2: it at all. Like you can't wear a pair of

1125
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 2: Nike unless this has changed. This is what I was

1126
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 2: reading about.

1127
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 1: I know, you know Gucci ref Yeah, this guy he

1128
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 1: had a video. He wears a lot of Nike Air

1129
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 1: Max three sixties, okay, because he just thinks they're comfortable,

1130
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: and I think he's a Nike guy and he likes them.

1131
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,720
Speaker 1: He said a lot of other referees wear more running

1132
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 1: shoes like Brooks or New Balances or something.

1133
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 2: That's what I would think.

1134
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but the struggle is trying to find like

1135
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 1: the all black version of a shoe, I guess, is

1136
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: what they were saying. Yeah, which is why maybe carl

1137
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 1: Aine went with the shoes here.

1138
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:59,720
Speaker 2: It's super interesting. I was thinking, like over my lifetime,

1139
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 2: I remember being in high school, whe like all the

1140
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 2: refs had the remember the zigzags, like the bounce you

1141
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 2: know I'm talking about, Oh yeah, yeah yeah, Like every

1142
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 2: ref in Georgia that was wearing those zig zag shoes.

1143
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 2: They're like super bouncy. So I don't know. I was

1144
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 2: very curious, like NBA guys, what what would they be wearing?

1145
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 2: You juste them running in some Kobe's or something like that.

1146
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 1: Are you a fan of these shades? The Converse kicks

1147
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 1: and he's got all the different colorways. Now there's like

1148
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 1: gotta be five or six. Look at the like they're

1149
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 1: pretty funny looking. I've never tried them on, so I

1150
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 1: am curious how comfortable they are. I saw people in

1151
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 1: comments saying though, like, there's no reason, there's a reason

1152
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: why he's wearing them. They're very comfortable shoes.

1153
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:40,359
Speaker 2: I've not seen anybody wear these, like personally me too.

1154
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 2: I don't know how I feel about them. Like the

1155
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:44,879
Speaker 2: one that came to mind is, well, how to look

1156
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:46,879
Speaker 2: them up here? Because I just think about the brown ones.

1157
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 2: That's the one that always in my head. They're okay.

1158
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 2: I mean the black ones look like a referee shoe.

1159
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 1: They do.

1160
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 2: They look like I'm looking at them. I feel like

1161
00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 2: the insult would be they look like sketchers but just

1162
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 2: has NBA shoes, So like, you know, we got guys

1163
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 2: sign the skeesters. Now, this is what a crazy world

1164
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 2: we live in. Yeah, man, I don't know. I don't know.

1165
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 2: I don't think I would wear them. I don't they

1166
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 2: they're not They're not talking to me, you know what

1167
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 2: I'm saying.

1168
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,359
Speaker 1: I also have no issue with this because I think

1169
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 1: it gets overlooked. He wasn't wearing these in a Thunder game,

1170
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 1: and even then I don't really care. I don't think

1171
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 1: this because he's wearing his shoes that he's like gonna

1172
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 1: give him a kinder whistle. This was this was the

1173
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 1: Mavericks Lakers game. Yeah, and then somebody saw it. They're like, oh,

1174
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: he's wearing shoes.

1175
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,720
Speaker 2: Oh my god. And then it became a unique because

1176
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 2: like you're gonna say something that he was running into

1177
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 2: some Jordan's like, no, right, I mean, I know George's

1178
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 2: not playing, but they're just shoes. They're literally just shoes.

1179
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 2: I don't know why anybody would have an issue with this.

1180
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 1: I want to see, like Gucci ref for one of

1181
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 1: these notable refs, do their own Steph Curry free agency sneaker.

1182
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 2: Every every playoff, yes, swap him around or even each quarter.

1183
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 1: You got on a different here, as Guccie Reff says

1184
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 1: he has, he goes through a new pair of shoes

1185
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:04,320
Speaker 1: every twenty to twenty five games. He said, Really, a

1186
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: referee runs about five miles a game an NBA. Yeah, yeah,

1187
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 1: I guess you're a lot of running, so you know,

1188
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 1: wear and tear on those. I guess you wouldn't think

1189
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,319
Speaker 1: that they would wear it down so fast. I would

1190
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 1: think so, I would think they would last for the season.

1191
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 2: Like I know, they're just kind of running up and down,

1192
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 2: but they're not like cutting, like the guys are really

1193
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 2: like you know, like.

1194
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 1: You're stopping go though. No, they're not like doing like

1195
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 1: shame exactly, you.

1196
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 2: Know, like you see you see the NBA guys there

1197
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:29,800
Speaker 2: their whole angles like turning over into the shoe like

1198
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 2: that's not happening whatever. No, you're right, you're right and there,

1199
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:34,399
Speaker 2: and they're in a court like like you run, you're

1200
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,280
Speaker 2: running outside, like you probably burn through shoes because outside

1201
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 2: outside the soul goes exactly, but on a on an

1202
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 2: NBA court, it's always clean. It's true. Like I don't know,

1203
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 2: I can't believe twenty five games is kind of crazy.

1204
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what they said or the clip I saw.

1205
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 1: All right, well, let's hear what everybody thinks. Fun up

1206
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 1: down questions. They're up or down on those four. Let

1207
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 1: us know your thoughts on Giannis and on the Dunkman League.

1208
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 2: I guess it is.

1209
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 1: And then these two shoe related on stuph with his

1210
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 1: sneaker free agency collection and and referees wearing player shoes.

1211
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 1: Would it have mattered if Shaye was playing? Would have

1212
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: that changed your opinion? And he had like eighteen free throws? No,

1213
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 1: Carl Lane, you respect Carl Lane, like saying, this guy's.

1214
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:20,800
Speaker 2: Name, Carl Lane, I have an NBA referee. Sound like

1215
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 2: you should be a comic book character. Maybe we should have, like, yeah,

1216
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 2: a referee, Carl Lane. That's the new Marvel company.

1217
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 1: That's maybe that was Lois's there you go, Superman took

1218
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 1: from took Lois from Carl. Now he's pissed off. He

1219
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 1: became a referee to get his revenge. We're writing the

1220
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 1: story right now.

1221
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 2: There you go.

1222
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 1: By of the Night sponsored by no one. Uh now,

1223
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 1: now I say that, but we're missing a man. Task

1224
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 1: Melus money mellows here usually helps UH keep track of

1225
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 1: like who's coming through with sponsorships, who's not, who's paid

1226
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:58,800
Speaker 1: who hasn't. So for all I know, our inbox is

1227
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 1: full of people wanted to oh boy, but I'm not

1228
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 1: looking at it. I'll leave it for tasks and we'll

1229
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 1: get to them when he gets back. Task returns tomorrow.

1230
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 1: But who boy, of the Night, it's going to Pelicans

1231
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:13,720
Speaker 1: rookie Jeremiah Fear's career high forty points as the Pelicans

1232
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 1: outscored the Jazz one fifty six one thirty seven. He

1233
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 1: shot seventeen to twenty nine from the field, five of

1234
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,320
Speaker 1: five from the free throw line, six assists, five boards,

1235
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 1: three steals.

1236
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 2: What a game.

1237
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 1: Youngest guard in league history to score forty plus in

1238
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 1: a game. What he's nineteen years old?

1239
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:29,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, is crazy. Actually, I heard that this morning. Yeah,

1240
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 2: I heard that this morning.

1241
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 1: I think that's a Pelicans rookie record. I believe now

1242
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 1: too with the forty uh and uh yeah. I was

1243
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 1: saying there were some other guys in the running from

1244
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 1: that game. They were Kennedy, Chandler who Utah Jazz played

1245
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 1: forty three minutes off the bench. Thirty one points, eight assists,

1246
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 1: seven rebounds for Kennedy.

1247
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 2: What a game this guy? Uh just coming back to league, right,

1248
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 2: I heard that, I think I heard.

1249
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 1: I think that's right. Yes, yes, I remember the name,

1250
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 1: and I remember he was around, and then I think

1251
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 1: he was gone. He must have played for the Grizzlies, right,

1252
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 1: I think.

1253
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 2: You played for a little bit. He's been out and

1254
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 2: I think he's played nine games.

1255
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 1: I want to say, yeah, yeah, and then you know,

1256
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:09,839
Speaker 1: a little lower on the wool boy pecking order here,

1257
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 1: Jordan Pool thirty four points, but Jordan Hawkins had twenty five,

1258
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 1: six and four. He shot eleven to sixteen. Pretty good game.

1259
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 1: So this Pelican's jazz game. Wild stuff going on, all

1260
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 1: of these great box scores. But Jeremiah Fears gets.

1261
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 2: It all right. Ash, appreciate you joining me. Great to

1262
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:27,800
Speaker 2: see you.

1263
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 1: I know you've been doing some thumb war Star Wars recaps.

1264
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 1: Where are we at in the Star Wars saga?

1265
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:38,760
Speaker 2: We got to hit Empire. We gotta do episode five,

1266
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 2: that's the next one.

1267
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 1: Okay, so but you are going through every Star Wars movie.

1268
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 2: We have done every single one, right JD. Yes, we have.

1269
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:50,360
Speaker 2: We're going to increase the frequency. We were actually toying

1270
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:53,320
Speaker 2: with doing Empire after the Today's show. Okay, but I

1271
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 2: got two wrapped up and other stuff.

1272
00:56:55,600 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, yeah, but Empire's coming Yessode five. Some say

1273
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 1: the best one, so episode five. But to me, the

1274
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:08,240
Speaker 1: second Star Wars Yes, yes, correct, you know I always

1275
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 1: we are doing it in chronological.

1276
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 2: Order, so we have to order they're released. Well, how

1277
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 2: many have we done now? Is that six movies? Yes? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: six out of eleven? Yeah for a halfway. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: turning this out. We were like, yeah, this sounds like

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Speaker 2: a great idea, let's do it. And we were doing

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Speaker 2: one a month, and it's like, holy cal we're not

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Speaker 2: gonna finish for a while. Yeah. Yeah, but we're gonna

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Speaker 2: we're gonna try to be like one every two weeks.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we're gonna get okay, Okay, Well check out

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Speaker 1: thumb War obviously JD and Rachel talking about a bunch

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Speaker 1: of other movies, but esch in there for the Star

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Speaker 1: Wars ones.

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Speaker 2: It's a lot of fun. So go check that out again.

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Speaker 2: Great to see you.

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Speaker 1: Good luck with pick a ball when you're back out

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Speaker 1: are on the court, good luck with the sniffles, good

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Speaker 1: luck with hooping.

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Speaker 2: How are the kids, how's the wife, how's Courtney? Everybody's

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Speaker 2: doing good. Everybody's doing good. Oldest and Courtney are off

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Speaker 2: on the trip right now at Washington.

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Speaker 1: D C.

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Speaker 2: So wow, Yeah, you ever been to Washington?

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Speaker 1: I have?

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Speaker 2: Okay, I loved it. I only went one weekend with

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Speaker 2: some buddies and I had We had a blast. It's

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Speaker 2: it's really nice, great city no matter what you're doing,

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Speaker 2: I guess. But like if you start doing like all

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Speaker 2: the historical stuff, like you're just like, it's kind of cool.

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Speaker 2: It is. It's nice to learn about the history of

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Speaker 2: your country. Yeah, it's awesome. It's been I've been once

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Speaker 2: with Tassie big Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we did the We rented bikes and just biked

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Speaker 1: around and it was like, this is awesome.

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Speaker 2: It's a really nice fall weather. It's great.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm glad they're having fun. Hopefully we'll see you

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Speaker 1: sooner rather than later. Join us during the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Come by. Yeah anytime, man and works good work is good. Okay. Uh, yeah,

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Speaker 2: they're still gone. Yeah, they're still going. I guess I

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Speaker 2: won't plug the Athletic, but hey, if you want to

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Speaker 2: come by, maybe I can get somewhere money, so you know,

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Speaker 2: go subscribe to it'd be great. Uh, that'd be great.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well go check out Esh's work at the Athletic.

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Speaker 1: We still love the Athletic. No problems there. We'll see

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Speaker 1: you tomorrow though. Tassie will be back in the Classic Factory,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure with a great Tan. This guy Tan's well,

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Speaker 1: I was just in the Dominican Republic all week with

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Speaker 1: the fan, so he'll be back here. Have a couple

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Speaker 1: more shows, wrap up the regular season, and then we're

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Speaker 1: into the play in next week when Trey's back as well.

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Speaker 1: Until tomorrow, Clipper Brose, you heard it here first.

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Speaker 2: Have a great time turn up. Love you guys awesome.

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Speaker 2: Any final thoughts, Yeah, thanks for joining us and remember

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Speaker 2: never meet your heroes unless you do and then they're awesome.

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Speaker 2: Anyone come to mind. I'm looking at him. That's why

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Speaker 2: I asked embrace today people,