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Speaker 1: Welcome into Lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan min here

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Speaker 1: with Garrett Downing, and we are going to break down

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Speaker 1: the Ravens' latest edition in free agency, and that's cornerback

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Speaker 1: Cheetah bay Ouzier, as well as look at what moves

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Speaker 1: they could still make ahead of the draft, and an

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Speaker 1: early look at the unofficial depth chart as we've assembled

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Speaker 1: it in this room. So Garrett another, I think really

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Speaker 1: shrewd move by the Ravens front office and Eric Tacosta

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Speaker 1: to shore up a position of need before the draft

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Speaker 1: and add a cornerback, an experienced veteran quarterback in Cheata

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Speaker 1: bay Ouzia. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think this is a move. It's just classic Ravens

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Speaker 2: in every possible way. You get a player who's a

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Speaker 2: quality veteran who has released this offseason, doesn't affect the

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Speaker 2: Comppic formula, has gotten big contracts in his career, has

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Speaker 2: played at a really high level of his career, has

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Speaker 2: played in the division, can fill an immediate need, versatile player,

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Speaker 2: and I just think it. It hits all the things

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Speaker 2: that you would be looking for in this kind of

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Speaker 2: a move, and the reports of the Ravens are paying

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Speaker 2: him the veteran minimum, and so it's a move where

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Speaker 2: it's not a break the bank move far from it,

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Speaker 2: and you get a player who has the potential to

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Speaker 2: come in and just play quality snaps and be I

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Speaker 2: mean maybe a starter for you or at least the

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Speaker 2: third cornerback.

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Speaker 1: Certainly a lot of starting experience over his career. He's

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Speaker 1: entering his ninth season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so he's been a starter.

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Speaker 1: He's been a starter his entire entire career.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, he's been a starter. He's gotten big contracts,

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Speaker 2: and so he's.

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Speaker 1: Speak about the big contract. Let me just put some

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Speaker 1: numbers on that. So last off season with the Tennessee Titans,

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Speaker 1: he signed a three year, thirty six million dollar contract, which,

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Speaker 1: at twelve million a year, was the highest new money

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Speaker 1: contract for any unrestricted cornerback free agent on the market

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Speaker 1: given out last offseason. So you have a big question.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we have the conversation a year ago about like

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Speaker 2: the winners of free agency. That was one of the

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Speaker 2: conversations that the Titans got Woozy, who was one of

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Speaker 2: the premier defensive players that was on the market, and

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Speaker 2: so he went there. Didn't work out really in Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: Dealt with a groin injury last year.

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Speaker 1: Not because the quality of play really injury, Yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean he dealt with a groin injury

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Speaker 1: that knocked him out for the majority of the season,

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Speaker 1: came back and actually had an interception in his first

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Speaker 1: game back. So you know, you look at the PFF

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Speaker 1: grades and he had solid play last year. He actually

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Speaker 1: had the second highest or second lowest completion rate of

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Speaker 1: his career. Fifty six percent of the passes that came

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Speaker 1: Adam were completed, second lowest of his career. So you know,

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Speaker 1: and he's had some very good years, so pretty solid.

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Speaker 1: I actually reached out to a contact of mine in Tennessee,

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Speaker 1: John Glennon, who was a longtime reporter covering the Titans,

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Speaker 1: and he said, yeah, he was a pretty solid player

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Speaker 1: last year. It's just they had a rookie, Jarvis Brownlee,

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Speaker 1: who was playing well at the end of the season

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Speaker 1: and they wanted to give him a chance. Titans, even

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Speaker 1: though they ate a lot of dead cat money in

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Speaker 1: making and cutting Auzier, which was kind of a surprise

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Speaker 1: to John. Then I think a lot of people they

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Speaker 1: did have a modest four million dollars saved in in

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Speaker 1: kind of bonuses, so.

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Speaker 2: Well, they're they're at a different position or in.

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Speaker 1: The guaranteed salary. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: The Titans are kind of in rebuild mode exactly. They're

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Speaker 2: looking to get younger and move off from probably expensive

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Speaker 2: veteran contracts, which is what he had exactly.

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Speaker 1: So then he knew regime there, the general manager team

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Speaker 1: and the Ravens. The Ravens are just really good at

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Speaker 1: capitalizing on this sort of thing, right, like other teams

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Speaker 1: turnover that might be surprising in these these quality players.

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Speaker 1: That is the market absolutely buzzing for Chidobe Ouzier. No,

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Speaker 1: not necessarily, but they jump on a good player at

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Speaker 1: a good price.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's kind of it's just crazy, like it was

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Speaker 2: buzzing a year ago exactly, and so like a year later.

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Speaker 2: I understand there was an injury, but it was an

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Speaker 2: injury that he came back from and played again. So

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Speaker 2: it's not like is he going to be able to play.

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Speaker 1: It's not like he finished the season on injured reserve

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Speaker 1: and you have questions about that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I think that the injury thing that isn't

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Speaker 2: really that big of a concern in my mind.

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Speaker 1: I think, I mean, he had an ACL two years

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Speaker 1: had injuries. But ACL, that happens. Groin injury, Okay, it happens.

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Speaker 2: You know, the ACL was in twenty twenty two exactly

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Speaker 2: like that. He's recovered from that, cover from that exactly,

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Speaker 2: came back and played, then still got that big contract

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Speaker 2: he had. He had tourned the ACL prior to getting

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Speaker 2: that contract in Tennessee, left exactly and then dealt with

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Speaker 2: the groin injury and with sideline for again a good

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Speaker 2: portion of the season, and then the Ravens end up

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Speaker 2: getting him. And I like it when you look at

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Speaker 2: the Ravens defense. He could step in and he could play.

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Speaker 2: He could play outside corner. He can also slide inside,

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Speaker 2: and the Ravens this offseason part of way.

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Speaker 1: He's not an inside corner. He's he has not played

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Speaker 1: inside much in his career. He's an outside corner. He's

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Speaker 1: a boundary. He's Brandon Stevens. He's gonna play outside. I

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Speaker 1: mean Stevens had a little safety versatility, Yeah, but Woozier

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Speaker 1: has played almost all of his career on the outside.

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Speaker 1: So I think this frees up Marlon Humphrey to play

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Speaker 1: more in the slot. But a Woozia I think is

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Speaker 1: going to be Nate Wiggins is a boundary corner. A Woozia.

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Speaker 1: When they want to go three corners and put Marlin inside,

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Speaker 1: then they can certainly go that way. Obviously, if you're

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Speaker 1: two corners, I think it's still Marlin and Wiggins. But

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Speaker 1: the Ravens often are using three corners, and Brandon Stevens

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Speaker 1: saw a lot of time last year, you know, as

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Speaker 1: we all know, so I think a Woozier will see

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Speaker 1: a lot of snaps out outside.

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Speaker 2: And they really wanted to add and we'll talk about this,

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Speaker 2: but like do they want to add pieces in this

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Speaker 2: Do you bring Kyle Hamilton down the slide to use

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Speaker 2: three corners or do you use three safeties? Because the

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Speaker 2: Ravens at times like to use both of do you

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Speaker 2: use both? And that's the Dine package. And so they

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Speaker 2: want to have the players that they can put out

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Speaker 2: there to have these multiple defensive back formations and adding

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Speaker 2: a Woozia to the mix will give them that ability

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Speaker 2: to do it. Like in addition to in addition to

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Speaker 2: Brandon Stevens leaving in free agency. The Ravens also released

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Speaker 2: the kinds of injuries. But going back a year, the

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Speaker 2: he was a true slot corner. He was a nickel corner.

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Speaker 2: And so it's not the same it's not the same player,

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Speaker 2: but it's just another guy in the mix there who

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Speaker 2: gives you that versatility in the in the back end

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Speaker 2: of the defense. And so like they're really trying to

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Speaker 1: He could still add a true slot corner, Yeah right,

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Speaker 1: because I mean, obviously Kyle Hamilton's gonna play a lot

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Speaker 1: in the slot. Marlon Humphrey now is freed up to

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Speaker 1: play in this slot with this move, But you could

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Speaker 1: still have a slot, you know, and and Ard Areas

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Speaker 1: can play there as well. And I certainly expect them,

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Speaker 1: the Ravens to add a safety potentially in free agency.

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Speaker 1: I expect them the draft one. And so I agree

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Speaker 1: this move does again help you become more versatile overall

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Speaker 1: in the secondary, And mostly I think it's sperience. Right,

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Speaker 1: So with Brandon Stevens leaving, you had Nate Wiggins. Obviously

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Speaker 1: he's going to be a major partner. Marlin has a

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Speaker 1: ton of experience. But behind them you had Jalen Armor

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Speaker 1: Davis and TJ. Tampa, who combined had one hundred and

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Speaker 1: ninety NFL snaps in their career. You know, a Wuzia

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Speaker 1: You know he can play He can play ball, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Like you know what he brings and he's a good tackler,

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Speaker 1: he's cherry on top. He's playing in the AFC North.

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Speaker 1: He knows what it takes to play in this division,

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Speaker 1: and being like, all right, we're gonna get quality play

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think we've said this many times with the

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Speaker 2: moves of the Ravens have made in free agency, like

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Speaker 2: you're patching up the hole so that you can go

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Speaker 2: into the draft and just have a best player available mentality,

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Speaker 2: and like with a Wuzia, it gives the Ravens. It

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Speaker 2: puts them in a position where like you just feel

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Speaker 2: now and play probably with your starting eleven with him

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Speaker 2: You're gonna add to the equation.

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Speaker 1: Through They're still gonna draft.

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Speaker 2: There's still of course gonna draft, and they're gonna draft

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Speaker 2: eleven guys. If they keep all the eleven picks. They're

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Speaker 2: also potentially gonna add in free agency. But what this

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Speaker 2: there were to be an injury there with an experienced player.

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Speaker 2: And it also like, let's just say the Ravens were

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Speaker 2: it reduced to some of that stress. Similar to Nate

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Speaker 2: Wiggins last year, Nate Wigs didn't come in Week one

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Speaker 2: put him in a spot where he's out there playing

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Speaker 2: all the snaps. You can ease him into the action.

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Speaker 2: And I think having a veteran player is really helpful

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Speaker 1: I think a first round corner. I certainly wouldn't rule

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Speaker 1: You're in two cornerback looks, and then maybe if you

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Speaker 1: Basically would would be kind of how it works. I

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Speaker 1: I mean he's primarily a slot guy, so he could

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Speaker 1: play a lot in the nickel. I certainly wouldn't rule

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Speaker 1: it out. I think it's maybe it feels a little

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Speaker 2: Mate. My honest feeling is it probably doesn't.

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Speaker 1: It's the best player available.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't impact the desire to take a corner in

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Speaker 2: the first line if they feel like there's a stud

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Speaker 2: feel really good about the corner, who's there, they could be, hey,

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Speaker 2: we signed a Woozia.

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Speaker 1: I agree with that. Yeah, I agree with that. I

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Speaker 1: think that you know it is it is funny we

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Speaker 1: York Jets. So it's like, and that's yeah, and who's

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Speaker 1: That's probably their biggest hole right now.

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Speaker 2: a look at the depth chart here. This is unofficial,

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Speaker 1: I probably put I'd probably put Keaton number three on

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Speaker 1: You're not going to order here.

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Speaker 1: Hey, that's a spot on the fifty three min roster.

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Speaker 1: Not potentially it wasn't last year.

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Speaker 2: Of course, they added DeAndre Hopkins's offseason and brought back

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Speaker 2: Tylan Wallace. They still have devontees Walker and then Anthony

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Speaker 2: Miller is somebody who at the end of the year

438
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Speaker 2: was playing snaps in the playoff game. They brought him

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Speaker 2: back on an exclusive rights contract, so he is somebody

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Speaker 2: in that mix as well. They could still think he

441
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Speaker 2: was a future reserve and so he could end up

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Speaker 2: making I.

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Speaker 1: Think he'll compete, he'll compete for a spot. I think

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Speaker 1: the question that I am going to split hairs, you

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Speaker 1: know what I'm splitting hairs. The question is is the

446
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Speaker 1: sixth wide receiver does does he need to be a

447
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Speaker 1: punt return because they're still looking for a punt return.

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Speaker 2: Tom Wallace component can return punts and he's done that

449
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Speaker 2: here as well, so he could end.

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Speaker 1: Up being they but he did not finish the year

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Speaker 1: last year with that job, and John Harball has made

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Speaker 1: it clear that he thinks that that's an important role

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Speaker 1: on this team. So it wouldn't surprise me if they

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Speaker 1: drafted or added a wide receiver at some point over

455
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Speaker 1: the off season to be the primary punt returner, similar

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Speaker 1: to what they did with Deontay Hardy last year.

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Speaker 2: And then the offensive line, uh Ronnie Stanley back at

458
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Speaker 2: left tackle. Left guard is a real question mark right now.

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Speaker 2: Andrew Voorhee is to be penciled in there as a starter,

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Speaker 2: but he's gonna have to earn that spot. Center of

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Speaker 2: corps Tyler Linderbaum right guard, Dang right tackle, Roger rose

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Speaker 2: Garden and.

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Speaker 1: The depth chart. Your backups right now on the offensive line,

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Speaker 1: Nick Semac and Ben Cleveland are your your top backups.

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Speaker 1: You know, the Ravens have some other developmental players that

466
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Speaker 1: were undrafted free agents last year or spent time with

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Speaker 1: the practice squad and whatnot, But you know, you Cleveland

468
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Speaker 1: can play tackle, and he's taken snaps at center in

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Speaker 1: a little bit of game, I think preseason games he

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Speaker 1: took some snaps at the center.

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Speaker 2: He's got a little bit. Patrick McCarry was a unicorn

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Speaker 2: in a lot of ways in his ability to play

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Speaker 2: all five spots. But but Cleveland has taken snaps, either

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Speaker 2: in preseason games or in practice really at all five

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Speaker 2: spots along that offensive line.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so they've kind of groomed him to a degree

477
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Speaker 1: to be the Pat McCarey Swiss Army Knife, so he

478
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Speaker 1: provides additional backup in multiple spots. But I still think

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Speaker 1: that they're certainly going to draft UH one or two

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Speaker 1: offensive lineman. I could see a guard tackle. I could

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Speaker 1: see it's just a guard guard guard guard center.

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Speaker 2: The biggest offense are death loong the offensive line. They

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Speaker 2: need tackle deaf and guard death. They need the offensive

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Speaker 2: line that is.

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Speaker 1: Correct and could they could one of those pieces still

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Speaker 1: be a veteran potentially.

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Speaker 2: And and one of those pieces could end up being

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Speaker 2: a starter. Like you could say that you can either

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Speaker 2: bring in a rookie or a veteran who could end

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Speaker 2: up starting at left guard.

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Speaker 1: Sure you could draft. If you draft somebody in the

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Speaker 1: first round, they're they're probably going to be playing left guard,

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Speaker 1: and for he becomes a top backup. But for right now,

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Speaker 1: I would I agree, I would pencil in before he

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Speaker 1: says your project, but the offense is.

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Speaker 2: A really good shape. There's not massive niece. It's basically

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Speaker 2: offensive line death is what the biggest knee for the

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Speaker 2: offense is. Right now. Your starters across the board are

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Speaker 2: all in place, and even most so you're talking about

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Speaker 2: offensive line death. That's a really good spot for the

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Speaker 2: offense to be not to mention one of the biggest

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Speaker 2: moves of the offseason with Todd Munkin staying here in

503
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Speaker 2: Baltimore signing a contract essentially, so you have the coordinator back,

504
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Speaker 2: of course.

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Speaker 1: And the position coaches back. On offense, you have your

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Speaker 1: depth coaching depth.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you have coaching depth like you you've got You've

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Speaker 2: got the starters and a depth on the yeah, roster

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Speaker 2: and the coaching staff for sure. And then on on defense.

510
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Speaker 2: We can run through it here. On the defensive line,

511
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Speaker 2: Travis Jones, Nnadie Matabiue, Roger Washington, those are your three

512
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Speaker 2: starting defensive linemen. Uh there, but you need you need

513
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Speaker 2: depth there. Then outside linebacker Kyle van Noy, Adafeoway, your

514
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Speaker 2: backups at outside linebacker, David Djabo, Otavius Robinson who Tavi

515
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Speaker 2: has played some really valuable snaps last year, and David Ajabua.

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Speaker 2: I think this is a this is a big year

517
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Speaker 2: for him, kind of a make or break here for him,

518
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Speaker 2: So this is really significant for him.

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Speaker 1: And Desa Isaac I think showed flashes when he uh

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Speaker 1: when he was healthy and on the field. I thought

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Speaker 1: it Desa Isaac.

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Speaker 2: Flashed, yeah, I'm with you on that. And then inside

523
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Speaker 2: linebacker Rokwan Smith of course next to him, there's an opening,

524
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Speaker 2: and Trenton Simpson, I would say, penciled into that spot.

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Speaker 2: He won it last year coming out of camp, ended

526
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Speaker 2: up in the back half.

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Speaker 1: Of the vast majority of the season as the starter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he got replaced at the end of the year

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Speaker 2: with Malie Harrison and Chris Board both of them have

530
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Speaker 2: now left in free agency. But get a pencil Trenton

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Speaker 2: Simpson into that spot next to rokwand Smith. The Ravens

532
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Speaker 2: also added Jacob Hummel this offseason so he can play

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Speaker 2: that that linebacker spot. He's also an important special teamer cornerback.

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Speaker 2: We talked a lot about cornerback at the top here.

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Speaker 2: If I'm going two cornerbacks, it's Marlin Humphrey and Nate Wiggins.

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Speaker 2: And then if you're adding a third cornerback there that's

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Speaker 2: a woozy A. And then you still have TJ. Tampa,

538
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Speaker 2: Jalen armor Davis. Who are I mean? TJ Tampa I

539
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Speaker 2: think is absolutely going to be on the team. I

540
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Speaker 2: think both those guys that stands right now are going

541
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Speaker 2: to be on the team. I think Jalen Armor Davis,

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Speaker 2: He's he's a player who the Ravens really like and

543
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Speaker 2: has his potential, but he's just dealt with injuries all throughout.

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Speaker 1: You know this about me, I always talk about Jalen

545
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Speaker 1: Arbor Davis and practice. I'm like, I like Arba Davis.

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Speaker 1: I just want him to stay healthy. I think he's

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Speaker 1: a good, good.

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Speaker 2: Player, yep. And then a safety Kyle Hamilton, our Darius

549
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Speaker 2: Washington backups there Snoozy Kane bow Braides.

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Speaker 1: They actually have like you know with Bo Braid and

551
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Speaker 1: Snoosey Kane. I know Bo's, you know, an undrafted rookie

552
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Speaker 1: who sell really just special team's time, but like Snoozy

553
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Speaker 1: Kane played very well on special teams, and so they

554
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Speaker 1: have some depth there. I mean it would be more

555
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Speaker 1: veteran depth. And then potentially you could still obviously make

556
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Speaker 1: a very high pick, but it's not like you need,

557
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Speaker 1: you know, a fourth round safety or fifth round safety.

558
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Speaker 1: You kind of have that depth there with Kane and Braid.

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Speaker 1: It's either you draft one early first three rounds that

560
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Speaker 1: could be part of that defensive mix early in their

561
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Speaker 1: career first year, second year certainly, or like it's a

562
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Speaker 1: it's a veteran. I think it's starting. It's kind a

563
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Speaker 1: draft and develop a situation there. It's really like we

564
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Speaker 1: get somebody and it can play right away. And it's a

565
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Speaker 1: little bit similar to like outside linebacker, Like the Ravens

566
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Speaker 1: have their two starting outside linebackers and van Noy in

567
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Speaker 1: o way, and they have some young guys and Tavis

568
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Speaker 1: Robinson ads Isaac third round pick.

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Speaker 2: They have some developed but like if you were to.

570
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Speaker 1: Enojabo still developing, I mean you need to delve fast here.

571
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Speaker 1: We're getting to the end of the rookie contract.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, and so but if you were to add

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Speaker 2: someone there, you I would expect it to be like, Okay,

574
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Speaker 2: this is a first round pick. It outside linebacker could

575
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Speaker 2: be a start.

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Speaker 1: I don't necessarily agree with that because because always going

577
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Speaker 1: into the final year of his contract, fifth year van Noy,

578
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Speaker 1: you know how much longer is he going to play?

579
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Speaker 1: So like you also just need to continue to stock

580
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Speaker 1: the pipeline. So and there's a lot of depth in

581
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Speaker 1: this past outside linebacker draft class. I think you could

582
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Speaker 1: also still take another shot at third fourth round outside linebacker.

583
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Speaker 2: Fair I think I think the needs as I see

584
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Speaker 2: it on defense, safety, We've we've spelled that out, talked

585
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Speaker 2: through that defensive line.

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Speaker 1: It's defensive line that's primary death. And you still need

587
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Speaker 1: more corner depth, you do.

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Speaker 2: I think you're adding another cornerback will absolutely happen in

589
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Speaker 2: the draft. So like sit but if I yeah, safety,

590
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 2: d line, in corner, those are the needs there. But again,

591
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Speaker 2: the Ravens similar like they have when you really go

592
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Speaker 2: through it, They're not looking for starters and they have

593
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Speaker 2: backups at a number of these positions. So I think

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Speaker 2: the Ravens their roster is in a really good position

595
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Speaker 2: because there's not glaring holes on either side of the ball. Yeah,

596
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Speaker 2: and I think that that's a great place to be.

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Speaker 1: They have positioned themselves well to be in best player

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Speaker 1: available mode, yes, at pick number twenty seven and beyond

599
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Speaker 1: in every round. And so that's always how Ozzie USM

600
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Speaker 1: did it, that's how Eric Tacosta does it. You want

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Speaker 1: to cross off as many items before the draft as

602
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Speaker 1: you can. And I think they're even in better position

603
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Speaker 1: thany were last year when you went into it and

604
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: you knew you needed an offensive tackle, needed one early,

605
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Speaker 1: and the Ravens got one, and that was a home run.

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Speaker 1: With Roger Rosengarden. But this year, I don't go into

607
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Speaker 1: the draft saying you have to draft this position early

608
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Speaker 1: because we need that guy to contribute right away. And

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Speaker 1: even corner last year, like you know, I mean they

610
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Speaker 1: had Marlin and Brandon Stevens, but you needed a third corner,

611
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Speaker 1: and so I think that they're in really, really good position.

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Speaker 1: I would probably say, if there's any position where it's

613
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Speaker 1: like a high pick might be needed, I'd probably say safety.

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Speaker 1: And then in terms of the position where it's like

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Speaker 1: death is needed defensive line.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree with that assessment. But even if,

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Speaker 2: like if the board doesn't fall theway that you would

618
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Speaker 2: life from a safety standpoint, like I think the RAMS

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Speaker 2: one added another shafety we already but we also talked

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Speaker 2: about the veteran market is still an option.

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Speaker 1: And there's a lot of guys on that market.

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Speaker 2: And you have your two starters. You have your two

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Speaker 2: starters from the end of the year. Now you want

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Speaker 2: a third, but like you have two starters to say

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Speaker 2: if you so, like if if Malachi Starks is gone

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Speaker 2: and Nicky Monmore is gone, you're like, well, you're not

627
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Speaker 2: gonna take a safety.

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Speaker 1: But we all know how much they want to move

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Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton around. So like, yes, it's it's a it's

630
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Speaker 1: a three starter safety mode. You need three starting safeties

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Speaker 1: in this defense. Need it? You do? You need it?

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Speaker 1: You like it?

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Speaker 2: You would like it.

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Speaker 1: I think you might need it. I mean, Kyle Hilton

635
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Speaker 1: plays so much the defense line of strimmage.

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Speaker 2: The defense was really good last year. The second half

637
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Speaker 2: of the season was the best defense in football. And

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Speaker 2: they had two starting safeties they had are Darius Washington.

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Speaker 1: That's a very fair point.

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Speaker 2: So I think that you you would like it. You

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Speaker 2: don't need it, okay, all right, all right, I'll give.

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Speaker 1: That to you. And actually the Woozy A signing lends

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Speaker 1: itself more to that, yes, because that gives you the

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Speaker 1: Marlon Humphrey flexibility to play in the slot.

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Speaker 2: All Right, all right, I don't like you come around.

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Speaker 1: I'll give it to you.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So let us know what questions you have for

648
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 2: this team. You can always email us at the lounge

649
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 2: at Ravens dot NFL dot net. Coming up next week

650
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Speaker 2: is the NFL Owners meetings. We're gonna be down there

651
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Speaker 2: in Florida for those meetings. Rule changes and John Harbaugh

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Speaker 2: has his breakfast with the media. That's early Monday morning,

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Speaker 2: seven forty five am. We're gonna be streaming that for

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Speaker 2: you so you can watch that in its entirety.

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Speaker 1: How many cups to coffee do you have before that one?

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Speaker 2: I'm always a couple. I'm about one and a half

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Speaker 2: cups of coffee in the morning. So that's what I'll s.

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Speaker 1: Seven forty five. That's an early wake up call.

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Speaker 2: You got mine getting seven forty five, that's I'll be

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Speaker 2: sleeping in, Yeah, exactly, I'll be way before that. So

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Speaker 2: so yeah, we'll be streaming that for you, so you'll

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Speaker 2: be able to watch that on our app, our website,

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Speaker 2: YouTube channel, and there's gonna be a lot of stuff

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Speaker 2: coming out of those meetings to stay tuned. Thank you

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Speaker 2: so much for listening, and we will talk with you

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Speaker 2: again soon