WEBVTT - When They Get Scared, Sh*t Gets Dangerous 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:03.080 Native Land Pod is the production of iHeartRadio in partnership 0:00:03.120 --> 0:00:04.600 with Reason Choice Media. 0:00:05.240 --> 0:00:07.920 Welcome Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. 0:00:07.600 --> 0:00:17.520 Welcome, Welcome home, y'all. This is Robert from Columbia, South Carolina. 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:20.799 I've been day one since the first podcast drop. Thank 0:00:20.880 --> 0:00:23.840 y'all for your coverage at DNC. Thank you for the 0:00:23.880 --> 0:00:27.560 lives that you did. They were highly entertaining, they were fun, 0:00:27.600 --> 0:00:32.720 they were fresh, great interviews. Just love getting to see 0:00:32.760 --> 0:00:36.240 y'all doing your thing in that setting. Didn't always get 0:00:36.240 --> 0:00:38.080 to watch the whole thing, but I've listened to the 0:00:38.080 --> 0:00:41.479 replays and they were fantastic. Thank you for bringing the 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:45.199 palace inting American on from Georgia to read her speech 0:00:45.320 --> 0:00:49.400 and have a platform as large as y'all's, and for 0:00:49.560 --> 0:00:53.600 also addressing that issue with several people that you brought 0:00:53.640 --> 0:00:56.320 on your show. Thank you for putting a spotlight on 0:00:56.360 --> 0:00:59.600 that issue. Thank you for holding nuance for that issue. 0:00:59.640 --> 0:01:04.520 I am tired of people putting down protesters and other 0:01:04.560 --> 0:01:08.280 people who are raising this issue and dismissing them as 0:01:08.319 --> 0:01:14.160 Trump supporters or as people who who don't understand the stakes. 0:01:14.440 --> 0:01:18.080 We understand the stakes. I'm gonna vote Harris Wallace I'm 0:01:18.080 --> 0:01:21.800 gonna vote Democrat down ticket, but I also am gonna 0:01:21.880 --> 0:01:27.600 hold the elected leaders empower to account to do the 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:31.680 right thing by the Palastining people, by all peoples around 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:35.360 the world who are being affected by violence, and especially 0:01:35.800 --> 0:01:37.319 by violence from us. 0:01:37.319 --> 0:01:39.080 So anyways, thank y'all. 0:01:39.600 --> 0:01:40.240 Welcome home. 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:44.920 Welcome home, y'all. This is episode thirty seven of Native 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:47.000 Lampi where we give it to you straight note Chaser. 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:50.440 We are fresh off the DNC. I want to shout 0:01:50.480 --> 0:01:54.280 out everybody who is tuning in with us every day. 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:56.800 We are your hosts. I'm Tiffany Cross here with my 0:01:56.840 --> 0:01:59.120 co host Andrew Gillim and Angela Raie. 0:01:59.160 --> 0:02:04.880 What's up, y'all, id you fresh off that summer heat 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:08.320 wave up there in the northeast or fresh on. 0:02:08.480 --> 0:02:12.200 It's eight thousand degrees? But what I want to talk 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:14.480 about what they just heard at the top of the show, 0:02:15.040 --> 0:02:19.359 and that was all the praise that we received from 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:21.320 from from so many of you guys who tuned in. 0:02:21.639 --> 0:02:25.000 Welcome home Robert. That's all right. You know he was 0:02:25.120 --> 0:02:27.919 busting stereotypes at at the top of the show. Tiff 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:31.920 he uh he. You know, we they tell us that 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:34.160 we only have black folks listening to this show and 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:34.919 that's not the case. 0:02:35.160 --> 0:02:37.160 Well, we knew that shot. I didn't I know. 0:02:37.200 --> 0:02:40.480 I just I was I'm busting the myth, the myth 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:41.679 busting for everybody else. 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:45.120 Oh like I thought somebody was telling us we only 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:45.800 had black listers. 0:02:46.720 --> 0:02:49.480 Well they say it's it's it is predominantly black. But 0:02:49.520 --> 0:02:53.000 I like that we have, you know, representation here. The 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:56.600 Rainbow Coalition also reperenced South Carolina, which you may not 0:02:56.720 --> 0:02:59.080 expect the white dude from South Carolina to say this, 0:02:59.160 --> 0:03:01.360 So I just appreciate all around shout out to you. 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:03.560 I gotta say I would expect the white dudes from 0:03:03.560 --> 0:03:06.160 South Carolina to say that. I think this whole myth 0:03:06.320 --> 0:03:09.160 around the South being read, I always say it's only 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:12.520 read until it ain't. There are very progressive pockets of 0:03:12.600 --> 0:03:16.400 the South, particularly in South Carolina, in North Carolina, in Alabama, 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:21.400 in Mississippi. All these places have people, a diverse coalition 0:03:22.200 --> 0:03:25.000 of voters, and some of those people and are venn diagram. 0:03:25.120 --> 0:03:27.840 We have a diverse coalition of listeners. So I'm really 0:03:27.880 --> 0:03:30.200 not surprised when I hear, no matter what people look like, 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:33.040 when they have expressive thoughts. Having grown up in the South. 0:03:33.080 --> 0:03:35.800 From the South, I want to say, there are always 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:42.360 people with progressive outlooks so happy to welcome home this day. 0:03:42.400 --> 0:03:44.720 I can't wait till their numbers look like that, because 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:47.400 that's not how the Embers look better. 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:49.080 I'm going to get into that in the show because 0:03:49.120 --> 0:03:51.760 I actually do think their numbers are growing, but there 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:56.360 are rampant voter suppression efforts happening. So probably a good 0:03:56.360 --> 0:03:59.200 time in the show because we have I. 0:03:59.120 --> 0:04:01.320 Was gonna say just some of the I want to 0:04:01.320 --> 0:04:04.080 thank the brother one for being a listener obviously, but 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:09.440 Brady Day one, he's a OG and then feeling comfortable 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:12.240 and sending that video in I really appreciated that. But 0:04:12.240 --> 0:04:15.960 I'll tell you the salutes have really been rounded Angela 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:20.800 and Tiffany. I was just at the African Methodist Episcopal 0:04:22.640 --> 0:04:26.000 Conclave or convention with a bunch of ams y'all, and 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:27.840 and they have been praying for us. A lot of 0:04:27.920 --> 0:04:30.800 listeners there. But I want to particularly shout out the 0:04:30.839 --> 0:04:33.680 senior Bishop of the afric of African METHODOM in the 0:04:33.760 --> 0:04:37.360 United States, Bishop A. J. Richardson, former pastor at the 0:04:37.400 --> 0:04:41.520 church that I attend, and A Rattler and his wife 0:04:41.520 --> 0:04:44.360 Connie richardson, who are avid listeners y'all? When they told 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:46.679 me that, I said, I'm sorry for the cuss words, 0:04:47.320 --> 0:04:49.479 and I got to say, I ain't gonna say who, 0:04:49.520 --> 0:04:52.240 but one of these very religious figures says, sometimes it 0:04:52.360 --> 0:04:54.360 takes some emphasis, so. 0:04:57.400 --> 0:05:03.360 I wasn't happy to be excused. I speak it, I 0:05:03.400 --> 0:05:05.159 walk it like I talk it, I speak it like 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:09.440 I mean. But I will tell you another A woman 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:12.040 said that to me that she listens in the car 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:13.800 with her kids, and I was like, you listen with 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:15.920 your kids in my body mouth? And she was like, 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:18.359 do you do you know high school kids nowadays? Do 0:05:18.440 --> 0:05:21.239 you know what they've listened to? Like you ain't saying nothing, 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:23.560 but anyway, she said that her kids will like come 0:05:23.600 --> 0:05:25.080 back and tell her stuff that we said. So we 0:05:25.120 --> 0:05:27.320 have a diverse co listen to listener. So we don't 0:05:27.320 --> 0:05:32.040 want to keep y'all waiting anymore. Let's get into the show. Yeah, 0:05:32.080 --> 0:05:33.520 we got a lot to get to, but I just 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:36.440 want to say we are rundown at the DNC was 0:05:36.800 --> 0:05:41.040 fire a lot better than any other because I wasn't 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:43.680 really watching because we were on air. So when I 0:05:43.720 --> 0:05:45.640 look back and saw all the other people I'm like, 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:47.560 this stuff is whack. So we said this on the 0:05:47.640 --> 0:05:50.200 last show. I'll say it again because angel will always deflect. 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:53.160 But Angela was the one booking the show, texting people 0:05:53.200 --> 0:05:57.799 getting people to come by that. 0:05:58.279 --> 0:06:01.080 It's literally it's literally not true. And I really want 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:05.000 to make sure that people understand how dope of a 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:09.520 team we have. I thank god that people think highly 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:11.839 enough of us that they want to come on the show. 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:15.960 But we had someone who was working NonStop around the 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:20.440 clock booking the show, and that is our research producer, Lolo, 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:23.520 So I want to make sure we give her the credit. 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:27.480 And Tiff, thank you for the guests that you added. Andrew, 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:29.799 thanks for the guests that you added. It is my honor, 0:06:29.880 --> 0:06:32.680 my pleasure, pleasure to work alongside y'all. But I did 0:06:32.680 --> 0:06:33.599 not book the whole show. 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:37.400 Let me say thank you to Lolo, which we said 0:06:37.480 --> 0:06:39.440 last week. I will say it again, but I'm going 0:06:39.480 --> 0:06:42.760 to reiterate. Lolo could have been doing that for any show. 0:06:43.040 --> 0:06:46.600 People responded and showed up because the relationship they have 0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:49.440 with you when you work on Capitol Hill. Because the 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:51.880 guest they have relationships with us too. But you were 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:55.000 pressing people, Angela was rolling up on people on the floor, like, hey, 0:06:55.120 --> 0:06:58.440 come do our show. So don't let Angela deflex. We 0:06:58.480 --> 0:07:00.760 have she has, she had people supporting her, but she 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:04.400 was up early, up late, on the phone, all the time, 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:09.120 running around and people showed up because Angela told them 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:12.360 they had to. So thank you. And I know you 0:07:12.360 --> 0:07:15.000 want to say everybody, we think everybody, but I just 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:18.920 think it's warrant to give you a shout out. And 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:22.160 the fact that our covers literally look better than everybody else. 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:25.400 Nobody else had our rundown. We had Kamala Harris's campaign 0:07:25.440 --> 0:07:28.160 manager ten minutes before her speech. Nobody had that. And 0:07:28.480 --> 0:07:30.560 Julie showed out because because you asked her too. 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:33.760 So you know, I do have one thing I'm mad about. 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:35.240 Can I tell y'all now we got to wait for 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:35.760 the mini pod? 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:38.000 Can we do a mini pot on the DNC and 0:07:38.080 --> 0:07:40.560 all the I want to tell the dirty stories bts. 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:44.280 Let me tell this now because this is someone who 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:47.160 I hope is our president one day. Governor Wes Moore, 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:50.960 I'm mad at you. I am mad at you because 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:55.800 I don't understand how we all these people you literally 0:07:55.840 --> 0:07:57.600 speak for a living, and you told us that you 0:07:57.640 --> 0:07:59.480 couldn't be on our show for five minutes because you 0:07:59.520 --> 0:08:01.920 was gonna be your speech. I don't understand, so I'm 0:08:01.920 --> 0:08:04.440 a little tight about that. I love you deep, like 0:08:04.520 --> 0:08:07.160 it's deep. I've known Dawn longer than you. I love 0:08:07.240 --> 0:08:09.680 her deep. I want to see you when we come 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:12.680 to a live podcast, hopefully in Maryland, at your invitation. 0:08:12.800 --> 0:08:16.400 That's what I want because I wanted to celebrate that 0:08:16.440 --> 0:08:18.960 moment with you. It's not like a real mad but it's. 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:23.640 What is divine is divine. I think everything that transpired, 0:08:23.680 --> 0:08:25.160 the guests that we had, the people who we were 0:08:25.160 --> 0:08:27.880 able to introduce the listeners to in a more intimate way, 0:08:28.360 --> 0:08:30.560 all of it was divine. I hate that he missed out. 0:08:30.760 --> 0:08:33.680 I hate missed it too, but it was great. 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:36.400 Guys like to get my way, So I'm paled. A 0:08:36.400 --> 0:08:36.880 little bit. 0:08:38.400 --> 0:08:40.160 Happened, but we can talk about because there were there 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:42.040 were a lot of things that happened that we aren't 0:08:42.080 --> 0:08:42.600 getting into. 0:08:42.600 --> 0:08:43.040 It's true. 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:43.760 It sounds like the. 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:51.240 Talk mini potting were there were several incidents and well 0:08:51.280 --> 0:08:54.240 we almost came to blows. So be sure tune into 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:58.240 the mini pod drop on Monday. We do a mini 0:08:58.280 --> 0:09:00.520 pod on this show, so every Monday. You can get 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:02.640 the mini pod. But before we get into all of that, 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:04.360 you just gotta get the mini. 0:09:04.360 --> 0:09:07.040 I gotta tell you this. If my dad said, my 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:10.400 dad says he talks about my mom, he's like, man, 0:09:10.480 --> 0:09:13.120 Andrea talked to me like she's seven feet three hundred. 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:20.959 That's how you was absolutely. 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:18.520 Writing them checks. 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:19.240 She was writing. 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:25.520 She said, we were gonna cast checks. 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:27.920 Okay, that you think when you come in as the 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:31.760 second that you that you bringing things down to a 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:33.400 calm level. You might speak calmly. 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:35.600 You know what I'll never forget he said. He did 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:37.680 say that you make it worse. 0:09:40.000 --> 0:09:41.880 And you heard what he said and what he forgot 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:46.520 to say. Angel By the time we do this mini pod, 0:09:46.600 --> 0:09:48.640 Angela and I will be looking forward to the apology 0:09:48.720 --> 0:09:52.520 you owe us, and. 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:55.520 We'll talk about why you believe that that's married before we. 0:09:55.520 --> 0:09:57.640 Spend time on that. Andrew, what do you want what 0:09:57.720 --> 0:09:58.959 you got for us today? What do you want to 0:09:58.960 --> 0:10:01.520 talk about today? 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:01.760 Man? 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:03.560 I want to do so a little bit about the DNC, 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:06.120 but not so much. A bunch of Republicans came out 0:10:06.120 --> 0:10:08.520 this week, y'all, over two hundred former staffers to both 0:10:09.400 --> 0:10:11.080 forty was it forty one and forty three. 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:14.679 Yeah, the Bushes, the Bushes and McCain. It was President 0:10:14.720 --> 0:10:17.760 Bush and form. 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:20.599 And of course added to it by some former Trumpers 0:10:20.640 --> 0:10:24.480 who have you know, thrown off the yoke. But also 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:26.640 there was this query and I've heard it even up 0:10:26.720 --> 0:10:28.840 until this morning, folks who were saying, why are there 0:10:28.880 --> 0:10:31.920 so many Republicans at the DNC, and you know, talking 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:34.880 and that kind of thing. And then of course where 0:10:35.120 --> 0:10:37.439 the president and Vice president to b are right now 0:10:37.480 --> 0:10:38.160 in the state of George. 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:38.840 I want to talk about a. 0:10:38.800 --> 0:10:42.480 Little bit of that cool and what'd you got for us? 0:10:42.520 --> 0:10:43.840 I know what I want you to have for us, 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:44.640 but what you got for it? 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:48.559 Oh lord? Well, I just want to talk briefly about 0:10:48.640 --> 0:10:52.200 the National Federation that I'm now calling the National Confederation 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:57.040 of Republican Assemblies for challenging Kamala Harris being on the 0:10:57.080 --> 0:11:00.920 ballot at all. And they cite the dread Sky decision. 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:03.960 So if for those of you miss it, that's circa 0:11:04.040 --> 0:11:07.200 eighteen fifty seven. So we'll get into that for emancipation. 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:09.480 I mean, I've heard you, but now I get it. 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:12.760 It's very clever what you said, confederation, you know, I thought, yeah, oh, yeah, 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:16.480 I thought you said confederation would cun with the teeth, 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:18.319 But anyway, that's not what you said. 0:11:18.360 --> 0:11:21.559 No, no, but yeah, maybe same principle, right, Like, why 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:25.120 are y'all trying to be the Confederacy? It's twenty twenty four? Yeah, 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:27.559 for sure, tall order for them, I know. And then 0:11:27.679 --> 0:11:30.760 the worst part is National Federation of Republican Assemblies call 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:33.800 themselves Frederick Douglass Republicans. 0:11:33.240 --> 0:11:36.360 Y'all knowing y'all, Yeah, how are you. 0:11:36.280 --> 0:11:38.520 Going to cite the man who wrote what to the 0:11:38.559 --> 0:11:40.719 Slave is the fourth of July? And then cite the 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:43.160 dread Scott decision from why black women can't beyond the 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:45.439 ballot in twenty four? Anyway, I'm into it already. 0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:47.960 So this is why it is that her saying is 0:11:48.080 --> 0:11:49.240 we ain't going back, right. 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:52.120 That's exactly why we need it. That's exactly why we 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:54.080 need it. Well, I want to get in all their 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:57.800 might the voter suppression happening across the country because we 0:11:57.840 --> 0:11:59.880 all know that they are going to cheat, and so 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:01.640 I think this is not going to be an election 0:12:01.800 --> 0:12:06.800 that's decided election day and we already see things happening. 0:12:07.000 --> 0:12:09.400 There were some raids that took place in Texas that 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:12.880 I'll get into. But black voters and Latino voters are 0:12:12.920 --> 0:12:14.800 clearly a big threat to the GOP. So I want 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:17.360 to get into that and talk about why. But before 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:20.640 we get into any of these topics, you know this 0:12:20.640 --> 0:12:23.120 this well as you're listening to this podcast. If you 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:25.800 listen fresh off the Press is when we drop, then 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:29.400 you know that Vice President Harris and her running mate 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:31.640 Tim Wallas have agreed to sit down for their first 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:34.360 interview with CNN's Dana Bash. I have a lot of 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:38.080 thoughts about this, Andrew Angela, y'all, what'd y'all take on 0:12:38.120 --> 0:12:38.680 this one? 0:12:39.960 --> 0:12:42.440 I mean, I guess my issue isn't so much with 0:12:42.559 --> 0:12:46.680 the who the person interviewer. Dana is a wonderful woman, good, 0:12:46.720 --> 0:12:51.199 good person, whatnot. But I just thought, given the delay 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:54.439 and I was behind them on like, hey, take as 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:56.200 long as you need. When you decide is when you 0:12:56.240 --> 0:13:01.480 decide that maybe what they were fomenting was a I 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:04.280 don't know, a new way of doing this. I was expecting, 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:07.440 probably because everything up to this point has just been 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:10.600 so different. I mean, in truth, she has just bought 0:13:10.640 --> 0:13:14.400 such an incredible energy to the race for presidency. The 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:16.920 campaign has shifted in so many ways and walls just 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:20.200 adding to it new layers and new flavor. I don't know, 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:25.080 maybe they're credentialing of these sort of what do you 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:28.120 call these viral hosts that they did for the Democratic 0:13:28.120 --> 0:13:30.640 Convention where they brought in people were not necessarily political, 0:13:30.920 --> 0:13:33.800 but were viral in their nature, that maybe that might 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:35.920 send a tone that they were going to try a 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:40.840 different medium for this. They went to a more traditional medium, 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:44.120 and at that one that is just an apologies because 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:46.120 I've worked for them at one point in time, just 0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:50.360 quite frankly, isn't getting the ratings, Yeah, don't. I don't 0:13:50.440 --> 0:13:51.480 understand that choice. 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:55.600 I you know, I got to say, I am thinking that, 0:13:55.800 --> 0:13:59.480 given the truncated nature of this campaign, that they would 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:02.680 go somewhere where there is it's not a political show, 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:05.280 it's not a political network, it's not a political host. 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:10.160 It's someone who can really humanize them and reintroduce them 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:12.520 to all the folks who or introduce them to all 0:14:12.559 --> 0:14:16.160 the folks who weren't watching the DNC. So even like GMA, 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:19.320 you know, even the Today Show, like even maybe going 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:23.200 there some walk and talk moments, Kamala cooking, because that's 0:14:23.240 --> 0:14:26.280 one of her favorite things to do, Tim Walls. Maybe not. 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:28.440 Maybe he's not coaching anymore, but maybe he's on the 0:14:28.480 --> 0:14:31.160 football field with some of his old players, like really 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:35.640 going into their regular, everyday lives and providing people with 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:38.640 that insight that we talk about all the time on 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:41.760 our podcast, where people are listening to our conversation, look 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:44.600 at how they move about in life, follow them on 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:48.440 the plane, like like literally what I just I don't understand. 0:14:48.240 --> 0:14:50.480 If there's no reason why they can't can't do what 0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:53.040 you just described, Angela and ask serious questions. 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:55.640 No, of course, but I'm also suggest the other thing 0:14:55.680 --> 0:14:57.800 that I would have suggested to them, again given the 0:14:57.800 --> 0:15:02.520 truncated nature of the schedule, is is having a televised 0:15:02.640 --> 0:15:07.560 penn and pad so you have folks from multiple outlets 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:11.680 asking them questions. They could still do it together and 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:15.440 then that way that thing is broadcast multi platform. Yeah, 0:15:15.600 --> 0:15:17.680 at the same time, it's big enough. And I would 0:15:17.720 --> 0:15:21.240 have done that probably the Friday after the convention. And 0:15:21.320 --> 0:15:23.400 I don't think that's too late, but I really I 0:15:23.440 --> 0:15:27.040 think that that is. And it's again, it's not about Dana, 0:15:27.080 --> 0:15:29.840 it's about CNN, it's about all of it. People are 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:33.000 not tuning in there where can you reach people where 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:35.280 you know they or no, only wouldn't be Tim Walls 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:37.840 could go do an ESPN interview because of his sports background, 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:39.720 you know what I mean. Like, there's so many different 0:15:39.760 --> 0:15:41.520 ways they could have They could have played this. 0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:45.600 Anyway, you know. I don't think an ESPN interview would 0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:48.360 have been appropriate for their first rollout, and I anticipate 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:51.160 that he will do that show. I also don't know 0:15:51.200 --> 0:15:55.040 about the right exactly. We hope who knows, but I don't. 0:15:55.640 --> 0:15:58.960 I don't know if like the walk and talk and 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:01.800 the cooking is necessarily the image they want to put 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:03.680 out at this point. Yet either I wouldn't have been 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:05.040 mad at that. I mean, I can see. I'm just 0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:07.000 trying to think of their perspective, and then I'm also 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:10.440 trying to think of as a producer, like the amount 0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:12.320 of time and production that would take. And I think 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:14.640 they probably want to do this as a quick turnaround, 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:17.400 just so our viewers. No a pinning pad. If something 0:16:17.440 --> 0:16:19.600 happens on the hill a lot to me, that's like 0:16:19.720 --> 0:16:22.280 the most popular place where it happens is a bunch 0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:24.800 of journalists sit around and ask questions. You can have 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:27.000 a print outlet, you can have producers there. It's something 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:29.640 where talent doesn't necessarily show up. But that's a really 0:16:29.680 --> 0:16:35.600 great idea because I've had well, not regularly, like Joy 0:16:35.680 --> 0:16:37.880 isn't typically going like this, Cash isn't typically going. 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:40.120 But yeah, that's why I thought it would be different. 0:16:40.200 --> 0:16:42.880 You know, like you literally bring everybody together almost like 0:16:42.880 --> 0:16:44.720 a summit, or like you think about the White House 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:46.960 Press briefing room, but they're just sitting right, I'm just 0:16:47.000 --> 0:16:48.920 explaining it to your point. Tip to the listeners, guy, 0:16:49.000 --> 0:16:50.920 set a pin and pad with no content. Yeah, so 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:53.680 we're in the White House Press briefing room where everybody's sitting. 0:16:53.960 --> 0:16:56.360 Instead of it being that room, have like a big 0:16:56.440 --> 0:16:59.600 round table where Kamala and Tim Walls are also sitting. 0:16:59.680 --> 0:17:02.280 Yeah, it could be that. Yeah, and I've never really 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:05.159 I don't recall or it's not a regular thing to 0:17:05.160 --> 0:17:07.760 see something like that televised. So I love the idea. 0:17:08.080 --> 0:17:10.720 Like Buck though trends, you know, like everything has gone out. 0:17:11.000 --> 0:17:13.359 I know you guys like Dana Bash. I worked with 0:17:13.440 --> 0:17:16.760 Dana over twenty five years ago. So Danna used to 0:17:16.800 --> 0:17:18.639 be a producer before she was an on air talent. 0:17:18.680 --> 0:17:20.800 And I remember on nine to eleven I was a 0:17:20.840 --> 0:17:23.119 young associate producer in the newsroom and I had to 0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:26.000 run and get her tapes at the Monocle on Capitol Hill. 0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:27.840 This is back when she was a producer. So this 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:30.360 is nothing personal. I think Dana does what she knows 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:32.879 how to do, and so often that is the ancestuous 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:35.520 Beltway media. They're talking to each other, for each other, 0:17:35.640 --> 0:17:37.880 about each other. They're looking to get, you know, those 0:17:37.920 --> 0:17:40.800 gotcha questions, that sound bite to make some news, and 0:17:40.880 --> 0:17:43.679 that is not necessarily what the American people need. That's 0:17:43.720 --> 0:17:45.640 what the Beltway press needs. It's not what the American 0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:48.040 people need. I think she asked the questions to her 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:51.840 narrow lived experience, and so for example, when she was 0:17:51.880 --> 0:17:54.919 interviewing Jade Vance, which I thought, quite frankly noticed to 0:17:54.960 --> 0:17:57.240 her was not a great interview, and she asked his 0:17:57.280 --> 0:18:00.439 opinion on whether he thought Vice President Harris was or not, 0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:02.840 who gives a shit with this man thinks about her race? 0:18:02.880 --> 0:18:05.080 I thought that was a completely inappropriate question. I thought 0:18:05.080 --> 0:18:09.520 the question is self trafficked in racism. She allowed jd 0:18:09.640 --> 0:18:16.760 Vance to talk about Walls's military service without any follow up, 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:19.480 without confronting him about things that Donald Trump has said 0:18:19.600 --> 0:18:23.239 about those who served in the military without confronting him 0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:26.399 about Donald Trump's own lack of military service. So I 0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:29.560 just don't know that you know any like I could 0:18:29.560 --> 0:18:32.119 certainly do the interview and ask the kind of questions 0:18:32.119 --> 0:18:35.600 that Dana would ask, But I'm also like most of 0:18:35.680 --> 0:18:37.720 us have had to be ambidexterous enough that I could 0:18:37.800 --> 0:18:41.000 ask her about issues that are relevant to the black community. 0:18:41.040 --> 0:18:43.680 I can ask her about issues relevant to the Latino community, 0:18:43.800 --> 0:18:47.000 to the Asian American Pacific Islander community, to indigenous communities, 0:18:47.119 --> 0:18:49.720 the places where these races will be one on the margins, 0:18:49.960 --> 0:18:53.480 And I just think that she tends to center whiteness 0:18:53.560 --> 0:18:55.800 in a way that may not be intentional, but it's 0:18:55.920 --> 0:18:58.720 very much what happens, and it's not her. When you 0:18:58.720 --> 0:19:02.320 do have a presidential interview at a network, everyone is involved. 0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:04.680 The head of the DC Burrel is involved, the president 0:19:04.720 --> 0:19:08.159 of the network is involved, all your producers, Congressional Hill like, 0:19:08.200 --> 0:19:12.200 it's huge rooms of people weighing in on these I've 0:19:12.200 --> 0:19:15.600 been in those rooms weighing in on these types of elections. 0:19:15.640 --> 0:19:17.800 So it's a lot of different perspectives that I think 0:19:17.800 --> 0:19:20.480 are missed, which is why it's so important to have 0:19:20.560 --> 0:19:23.480 people of color, not just on air, but behind the camera. Andrew, 0:19:23.520 --> 0:19:24.800 I know you want to weigh in. We're coming up 0:19:24.800 --> 0:19:27.080 against the heartbreak. You bring us back on the other side, 0:19:27.080 --> 0:19:28.560 and we'll pick it up from there. Got to pay 0:19:28.600 --> 0:19:29.840 some bill, y'all. We'll be right back. 0:19:30.160 --> 0:19:40.320 Indeed, welcome back, y'all. 0:19:40.320 --> 0:19:42.879 We're just talking about this interview, the first interview that 0:19:43.280 --> 0:19:48.680 Vice President Harris and Governor Wallas will be conducting with CNN. 0:19:48.720 --> 0:19:50.159 And I, I mean, I was just going to say, 0:19:50.320 --> 0:19:52.600 to the extent that your experiences and I take you 0:19:52.640 --> 0:19:56.159 at your word around your assessment of what it was 0:19:56.200 --> 0:20:00.399 like working with Dana, I actually think that what you 0:20:00.480 --> 0:20:03.800 said there is actually being parroted by nearly every journalist 0:20:03.800 --> 0:20:05.920 that I see on television. This, I mean lesser Holt 0:20:05.960 --> 0:20:08.359 disappointed me when he interviewed Biden and said, you know, 0:20:08.400 --> 0:20:11.439 try to equalize what he had been saying on the 0:20:11.440 --> 0:20:13.720 trail to the violence being promoted. 0:20:13.400 --> 0:20:14.119 By Donald Trump. 0:20:14.200 --> 0:20:16.879 There was just no space for that to take place. 0:20:16.920 --> 0:20:20.080 Except they're all doing this out of what I believe 0:20:20.119 --> 0:20:22.440 is a knee jerk reaction to criticism that the right 0:20:22.520 --> 0:20:26.080 is going to wield their direction any way it comes. 0:20:26.160 --> 0:20:29.520 It doesn't matter who does the interview, that the right 0:20:29.680 --> 0:20:32.240 is going to be disappointed by it and they're going 0:20:32.280 --> 0:20:35.080 to create some sort of side show. So that being said, 0:20:35.119 --> 0:20:37.080 I just felt like, and I think this is consistent 0:20:37.160 --> 0:20:39.119 with I don't know that the patent pen would have 0:20:39.119 --> 0:20:42.320 been my recommendation only because it's it might look like 0:20:42.440 --> 0:20:45.560 chaos to the viewer if it's that, and I'm sure 0:20:45.560 --> 0:20:47.880 they probably don't want that to be the image as well, 0:20:48.359 --> 0:20:52.120 but something innovative. This was a moment I think for innovation, 0:20:52.400 --> 0:20:55.360 and if there was a ticket that could have delivered innovation, 0:20:55.840 --> 0:20:58.480 I think the way that they have curated so far, 0:20:58.880 --> 0:21:01.960 their introduction to their can people as presidential and vice 0:21:01.960 --> 0:21:05.960 presidential candidate candidates has been quite frankly superb. This looks 0:21:06.000 --> 0:21:08.119 like a little bit of a sort of standing place 0:21:08.320 --> 0:21:12.240 turn and I don't think we have time for standing 0:21:12.240 --> 0:21:14.960 in place. Every day has to be momentum building movement, 0:21:15.520 --> 0:21:18.720 and I don't know that this does it. But guess what, 0:21:19.040 --> 0:21:21.560 I trusted them up to this point and they have overperformed. 0:21:22.840 --> 0:21:24.879 Maybe there's enough a performance coming on this one. 0:21:24.920 --> 0:21:26.480 I mean, the candidate's not the interviewer. 0:21:26.680 --> 0:21:29.840 The candidates that is, of course, they gotta have. 0:21:30.000 --> 0:21:32.879 They gotta have a kitchen cabinet that's larger than normal 0:21:32.920 --> 0:21:35.040 because they got to cover more ground than normal, though, 0:21:35.080 --> 0:21:38.160 and I just think they cannot. I don't know when 0:21:38.200 --> 0:21:40.640 the next interview is. It should be a slew of them, 0:21:40.640 --> 0:21:43.000 and I think they could be. We're not gonna sit down. 0:21:43.080 --> 0:21:44.680 Y'all got to catch us on the trail, right, like 0:21:44.720 --> 0:21:46.760 they got to do a lot of stuff in one movement. 0:21:46.840 --> 0:21:49.160 While you're on the trail, you recording those ads. While 0:21:49.160 --> 0:21:51.480 you're recording those ads, you get growing your base. While 0:21:51.520 --> 0:21:53.400 you grow in your base, you shaking hands with Sarrogen's 0:21:53.400 --> 0:21:55.239 making sure that they got their marchin orders. Why are 0:21:55.200 --> 0:21:57.560 you doing that? You want to call Andrew just like 0:21:57.600 --> 0:22:00.000 you used to have a press briefing, call messaging car 0:22:00.200 --> 0:22:02.879 every morning, like you just got to do everything it wants. 0:22:02.960 --> 0:22:05.879 Angela, what do you want to hear from them? If 0:22:05.920 --> 0:22:08.200 you can give them one piece of advice, Like, here's 0:22:08.200 --> 0:22:10.120 the thing I want you to hit home in this interview. 0:22:11.400 --> 0:22:14.399 I want them to not run away from truth. I 0:22:14.440 --> 0:22:20.200 think that Democratic candidates have a way of hedging that 0:22:20.240 --> 0:22:23.439 they can't afford to do in this election season. I 0:22:23.480 --> 0:22:28.360 think that our candidates get focused on trying to please 0:22:29.320 --> 0:22:32.280 folks on polar opposite sides, and you just have to 0:22:32.320 --> 0:22:35.120 talk about nuance. You have to talk about the gray. 0:22:35.160 --> 0:22:37.439 You have to say, hey, you know, this is something 0:22:37.680 --> 0:22:41.200 whether it's you know, what's happening in Palestine, this is 0:22:41.280 --> 0:22:43.760 something I'm wrestling with. I've heard the story of this 0:22:43.840 --> 0:22:47.320 person that person, and have shed real tears. This is difficult. 0:22:47.600 --> 0:22:50.000 We're gonna need all hands on deck. These are the 0:22:50.080 --> 0:22:52.199 kinds of things that I want to see happen so 0:22:52.240 --> 0:22:54.560 we can reach a ceasefire. Like just being honest with 0:22:54.640 --> 0:22:57.160 folks and not starting with hey first before I say 0:22:57.160 --> 0:22:59.879 anything else. Israel has a right to defend itself. We know, 0:23:00.000 --> 0:23:01.719 Oh that's right, Like you know what I mean? Like 0:23:01.760 --> 0:23:05.679 not those typical cookie cutter talking points. I think that 0:23:05.720 --> 0:23:09.400 would make me the most happy and excited about their 0:23:09.440 --> 0:23:11.960 ability to grow their base, because they need to rest 0:23:12.040 --> 0:23:15.720 in truth and feel very good about speaking truth and 0:23:15.760 --> 0:23:18.320 being clear when they don't know, but they know they 0:23:18.359 --> 0:23:18.920 need to get there. 0:23:19.000 --> 0:23:22.439 I have to say, Andrew, I the specific thing that 0:23:22.480 --> 0:23:25.399 I want them to talk about. Obviously, domestic policy is 0:23:25.400 --> 0:23:27.960 a huge deal. Inflation is still hidding. You know, the 0:23:28.040 --> 0:23:30.520 kitchen table and those kitchen table topics are hugely important, 0:23:30.720 --> 0:23:35.480 so presumably that I do want to hear her response, 0:23:35.480 --> 0:23:41.480 specifically on Iran and the urseoning challenges we're having with 0:23:41.520 --> 0:23:45.280 some of our foreign adversaries. My reasoning is, I would 0:23:45.520 --> 0:23:50.120 like for this country to normalize what it to have 0:23:50.200 --> 0:23:53.439 a woman as commander in chief, to normalize what it 0:23:53.520 --> 0:23:58.080 might look like to have a woman during wartime presidents. 0:23:58.160 --> 0:24:01.840 Considering what Donald Trump has said about our armed forces 0:24:01.840 --> 0:24:03.920 and people who choose to serve, I think this is 0:24:03.960 --> 0:24:05.840 a time where she can say, not only does she 0:24:05.920 --> 0:24:08.800 have an intellectual command on what's happening across the globe 0:24:08.840 --> 0:24:11.280 in US positioning as it relates to that, but she's 0:24:11.359 --> 0:24:14.920 also prepared to lead this country to defend itself when 0:24:14.960 --> 0:24:18.960 and wherever necessary. So I hope that Dana asked her, 0:24:20.280 --> 0:24:23.439 you know, how she would be prepared to respond should 0:24:23.440 --> 0:24:26.720 Iran cross a line, and how she might be prepared 0:24:26.760 --> 0:24:30.080 to deal with a nuclear armed Iran, which is a 0:24:30.160 --> 0:24:32.080 huge deal and something that we are facing. 0:24:33.040 --> 0:24:34.879 No, you're you're absolutely right on that. In fact, if 0:24:34.960 --> 0:24:38.640 y'all remember doing this speech when she got to International 0:24:38.680 --> 0:24:42.200 affairs in the might of the US of the baddest 0:24:42.200 --> 0:24:45.080 fighting force in the land, right. I almost thought she 0:24:45.119 --> 0:24:47.640 had voice training. If you notice she went from sort 0:24:47.680 --> 0:24:51.600 of a you know, what I felt like is going 0:24:51.600 --> 0:24:55.080 from a tenor into a baritone, and her voice sort 0:24:55.080 --> 0:24:59.680 of got a little bit lower. She was in complete 0:25:00.200 --> 0:25:03.400 awareness and I think control of how she was being 0:25:03.440 --> 0:25:05.720 curated to the American people very directly. 0:25:05.800 --> 0:25:05.960 Right. 0:25:06.000 --> 0:25:09.000 You think about curating as a third person delivering something. 0:25:09.200 --> 0:25:11.080 I think she had that third person in her head, 0:25:11.080 --> 0:25:13.240 as in, what do I need to make sure you 0:25:13.440 --> 0:25:15.919 feel from me in this moment? And what I felt 0:25:16.040 --> 0:25:21.920 was strength, determination, and a woman who would be unquivering 0:25:22.640 --> 0:25:25.040 and making the decision when the time to make a 0:25:25.080 --> 0:25:27.439 decision would come. And what I hope she does in 0:25:27.440 --> 0:25:30.720 this interview with both her intent is that they avoid 0:25:30.760 --> 0:25:33.760 getting caught in the trappings of these particulars that I 0:25:33.760 --> 0:25:36.320 think are going to be thrown out as most Beltway 0:25:36.400 --> 0:25:38.360 journalists are going to do well when back in such 0:25:38.400 --> 0:25:40.159 and such and such there was this vote, and then 0:25:40.200 --> 0:25:42.200 there was this, and there was that, and unless it's 0:25:42.240 --> 0:25:46.520 a really big important sort of back and forth that's 0:25:46.560 --> 0:25:49.480 being had, meaning what is being to discussed is consequential. 0:25:49.480 --> 0:25:52.200 Where you stand on women's rights, where you stand on 0:25:52.280 --> 0:25:54.879 you know, big tax issues. I hope they avoid those 0:25:55.040 --> 0:25:59.720 traps and keep this thing, yes specific to where specificity 0:25:59.760 --> 0:26:02.240 is need, but that they keep it grand enough that 0:26:02.320 --> 0:26:06.439 it doesn't lose the average viewing public's attention. And I 0:26:06.440 --> 0:26:09.240 think those particulars have a way of counting a lot 0:26:09.240 --> 0:26:10.639 of people out of it. They're like, I don't know 0:26:10.680 --> 0:26:12.760 what that bill was, and I don't know what it's about, 0:26:12.800 --> 0:26:15.359 and I really can't follow it. If it goes there, 0:26:15.480 --> 0:26:17.840 I think it loses public interest, and what we need 0:26:17.880 --> 0:26:19.400 here is maximum public viewership. 0:26:19.640 --> 0:26:21.359 You know, one thing that I was going to flag 0:26:21.400 --> 0:26:25.080 for y'all really quick that I'm concerned about is I 0:26:25.160 --> 0:26:28.520 don't want this As much as it is a continuation 0:26:28.800 --> 0:26:31.480 of the ticket that folks voted for in the primary, 0:26:31.760 --> 0:26:34.600 it's also an opening for a new opportunity and a 0:26:34.640 --> 0:26:37.840 new chapter for democracy. So I really am hoping that 0:26:37.880 --> 0:26:40.439 there's not a lot of time spent on well, we 0:26:40.440 --> 0:26:42.640 already did that, Well, this administration did that. Well, listen, 0:26:42.720 --> 0:26:44.560 you know what I mean, Like, I hope that there's 0:26:44.600 --> 0:26:46.760 a way to say, well, we started here, but here's 0:26:46.760 --> 0:26:49.719 where we want to go the nature. Yes, that's what 0:26:49.720 --> 0:26:51.000 I'm really really hoping for too. 0:26:51.280 --> 0:26:53.440 Yeah, and that's sort of you even did a better 0:26:53.520 --> 0:26:56.200 job about like voted than what I was trying to 0:26:56.280 --> 0:26:59.280 say in the trappings, which is always tying you to 0:26:59.320 --> 0:27:01.280 the past. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. If they 0:27:01.359 --> 0:27:03.719 tied Donald Trump and this other dude to the past, 0:27:04.080 --> 0:27:06.280 they'd be stuck there. There'd be no time for the future. 0:27:06.720 --> 0:27:09.000 But Kamala has not been in the chief executive position 0:27:09.240 --> 0:27:13.240 yet as president, and as we can see with her 0:27:13.400 --> 0:27:17.040 campaigning for president, you become a different person when you 0:27:17.160 --> 0:27:21.160 are the person who is ultimately accountable. She fully possesses that. 0:27:21.520 --> 0:27:23.479 I have felt it all the while since she's been 0:27:23.520 --> 0:27:26.760 the nominee, and I just keep that command, keep it big. 0:27:26.840 --> 0:27:29.200 And as Angela points out, take us to the future. 0:27:29.200 --> 0:27:29.880 Where are we going? 0:27:29.960 --> 0:27:30.600 Where we headed? 0:27:33.960 --> 0:27:36.160 I want to correct myself on something if we can 0:27:36.200 --> 0:27:38.919 shift topics, because Andrew, when I first when you were 0:27:38.920 --> 0:27:43.080 talking about the Republicans that signed to endorse her again, 0:27:43.200 --> 0:27:44.919 I think some of what she says in this interview 0:27:44.960 --> 0:27:46.600 will be directed to them. And this is what I 0:27:46.640 --> 0:27:50.320 was bringing up last week. As the Democratic Party grows, 0:27:50.400 --> 0:27:53.159 the coalition and grows the tent, I think we have 0:27:53.280 --> 0:27:55.600 to be steadfast and pay attention and make sure that 0:27:55.640 --> 0:27:58.840 the policies continue to serve the people who were always 0:27:58.880 --> 0:28:01.920 with the Democratic Party, largely black and brown folks. So 0:28:02.000 --> 0:28:05.439 I'm paying keen attention to the messages that they deliver. 0:28:05.800 --> 0:28:08.119 But we were talking about the two hundred Republicans who 0:28:08.240 --> 0:28:11.520 endorse Vice President Harris this week, and I said it 0:28:11.560 --> 0:28:13.720 was Bush and John McCain. I'm gonna correct myself. It 0:28:13.760 --> 0:28:17.720 was John McCain and Romney, people who had previously worked 0:28:17.720 --> 0:28:21.119 for them in their own campaign staff. Yeah, but it 0:28:21.160 --> 0:28:22.760 was like McCain's former chief of staff. 0:28:22.840 --> 0:28:26.720 Okay, Yeah, so that coalition was larger than than previous presidents. 0:28:27.119 --> 0:28:30.320 Yeah, but you, I know you wanted to talk about that. 0:28:30.440 --> 0:28:32.639 Well just that, I mean, I think this was an 0:28:32.680 --> 0:28:34.600 interesting point because you all mentioned it, you know, as 0:28:34.600 --> 0:28:36.760 the sides as we were on the dayas doing our show, 0:28:36.840 --> 0:28:38.800 like why something, you got room for this Republican but 0:28:38.840 --> 0:28:41.080 you don't have room for this message a critical part 0:28:41.080 --> 0:28:43.320 of our base. And I completely we were all in 0:28:43.400 --> 0:28:45.280 agreement as it relates to to that, and I'm glad 0:28:45.320 --> 0:28:47.040 we were able to create create create space for that 0:28:47.080 --> 0:28:51.840 message to be delivered. But but the politics of elections 0:28:52.240 --> 0:28:58.240 is about the math of elections is about addition, and 0:28:58.520 --> 0:29:00.880 I think what they had to do in that convention 0:29:01.360 --> 0:29:04.800 and what they've got to do going forward is add 0:29:05.160 --> 0:29:08.640 to what they've already got, what's baked in, what is expected, 0:29:08.720 --> 0:29:10.480 what we know we can deliver. They've got to add 0:29:10.520 --> 0:29:14.680 to it because by ourselves alone, we haven't shown the 0:29:14.840 --> 0:29:17.640 history of being able to take us fully all the 0:29:17.640 --> 0:29:20.960 way there. Obama required bringing folks into the fold who 0:29:21.000 --> 0:29:23.840 were not previously there. What I appreciate about folks coming 0:29:23.840 --> 0:29:26.320 into the fold now, and particularly the Republicans who have 0:29:26.400 --> 0:29:29.239 been targeted, is that they're not there because of her 0:29:29.280 --> 0:29:32.440 tax policy. They are there because of her position necessarily 0:29:32.520 --> 0:29:36.360 on immigration. They're not there because of her previous voting records. 0:29:36.800 --> 0:29:38.880 Many of what we heard from many of them on 0:29:38.920 --> 0:29:41.320 the stage, and what we have continued to hear from 0:29:41.360 --> 0:29:43.760 the Conservatives who are backed he is like, this is 0:29:43.800 --> 0:29:47.600 a moment of country over party, that this dude is 0:29:47.720 --> 0:29:53.800 so out of whack with what is what is bedrock 0:29:53.880 --> 0:29:58.080 American principles. That's what one not abandoning allies, that is 0:29:58.120 --> 0:30:01.600 not surrendering our position on the global stage, that is 0:30:01.640 --> 0:30:05.000 not decreasing from a global leadership role, but rather stepping 0:30:05.120 --> 0:30:07.400 up in a global leadership role. I think those are 0:30:07.440 --> 0:30:10.600 the areas in which Republicans are finding common cause with 0:30:10.880 --> 0:30:14.880 the Harris Walls ticket. Not on I think the issues 0:30:15.200 --> 0:30:19.160 that are going to bring us enjoyment and happiness, and 0:30:19.200 --> 0:30:21.680 I think that those bedrock principles. I have not heard 0:30:21.680 --> 0:30:25.680 an equivocation from her or Walls on those yet, and 0:30:25.720 --> 0:30:28.840 in this interview we will hopefully hear more on the positions. 0:30:29.200 --> 0:30:32.440 But if I see that we're starting to surrender where 0:30:32.440 --> 0:30:34.840 we stand on the John Lewis voting rack, where we 0:30:34.880 --> 0:30:39.200 stand on regulation of many industries in this country that 0:30:39.240 --> 0:30:40.880 are underregularly, you know where we are on guns. 0:30:41.000 --> 0:30:41.720 If I see. 0:30:41.520 --> 0:30:44.080 Surrender in that, then we got issues. And I think 0:30:44.080 --> 0:30:46.080 she would have issues across the board from from our 0:30:46.120 --> 0:30:49.160 coalition that that put them there, But I haven't seen 0:30:49.200 --> 0:30:51.000 that yet. I think the common cause is basically like 0:30:51.000 --> 0:30:53.160 this guy is a threat to global order and that's 0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:56.280 what's bringing a lot of these Republicans along, Not that 0:30:56.760 --> 0:30:59.080 they agree with us on our on our on our 0:30:59.240 --> 0:31:01.000 fundamental position democrats. 0:31:01.160 --> 0:31:04.240 Can I just say, though, I you know, I was 0:31:04.280 --> 0:31:07.320 sitting here thinking while you were talking the injury the thing. 0:31:07.240 --> 0:31:10.720 About no I was. 0:31:12.480 --> 0:31:14.560 Because I was like you know the thing that that 0:31:14.680 --> 0:31:18.080 was that was bothering me last week, and now I 0:31:18.080 --> 0:31:20.560 can kind of put words to it about the number 0:31:20.640 --> 0:31:23.240 of them who were on the d n C stage 0:31:23.280 --> 0:31:25.920 while space wasn't made for issues that a lot of 0:31:26.000 --> 0:31:29.719 us really care about. Is you know what during George 0:31:29.720 --> 0:31:32.800 Floyd when all of our white friends were calling us crying, 0:31:32.880 --> 0:31:34.760 asking what they could do, what books they could read 0:31:34.800 --> 0:31:37.200 if we wanted to take over their Instagram? Remember yeah, 0:31:37.200 --> 0:31:40.960 I remember, yeah, So follow me here. Should they be 0:31:41.080 --> 0:31:43.239 talking on the d n C stage or do they 0:31:43.280 --> 0:31:47.040 need to go talk to their friends Republicans? Like, but 0:31:47.400 --> 0:31:49.640 this is my thing, Like maybe some space should have 0:31:49.680 --> 0:31:52.400 been made for never trumpers on the r n C stage. 0:31:52.480 --> 0:31:54.120 Maybe some space should. 0:31:53.840 --> 0:31:57.520 Be made for for never trumpers on h on op 0:31:57.760 --> 0:31:59.360 ed pages, editorial pages. 0:31:59.360 --> 0:32:02.200 Maybe they should got a ad, Maybe they can contribute 0:32:02.240 --> 0:32:04.760 to the Lincoln Project. Maybe they could do something where 0:32:04.800 --> 0:32:08.080 they go talk to their friends, Like, I don't need 0:32:08.120 --> 0:32:11.040 to know why you're supporting the right thing because it's 0:32:11.040 --> 0:32:13.200 the right thing to do. Like to me, this isn't 0:32:13.200 --> 0:32:17.600 even about to your point, Andrew, it is not about politics. 0:32:17.600 --> 0:32:20.440 It is country over a party. Well, then go talk 0:32:20.520 --> 0:32:25.760 to your fellow countrymen. Talk to the National Confederacy of 0:32:25.880 --> 0:32:31.080 Republican assemblies. Go talk to the Confederates, please and convince them, please, like, 0:32:31.200 --> 0:32:36.600 go and surrogate there god spaces in the Red States 0:32:36.640 --> 0:32:39.880 where Tiff said is changing, where it hasn't quite changed yet. 0:32:40.000 --> 0:32:41.520 Please go talk to them. 0:32:41.600 --> 0:32:44.600 But Angela, I'm the stage that had these were just 0:32:44.640 --> 0:32:48.280 democrats watching. This was the stage that you had the 0:32:48.360 --> 0:32:52.680 diversity of America trying to see what their choices were. 0:32:52.840 --> 0:32:56.160 I would like for some of them they needed they need. 0:32:56.200 --> 0:32:58.560 That's like me watching, I could not, honestly, I could 0:32:58.640 --> 0:33:01.840 not envision right now where I it a condition under 0:33:01.840 --> 0:33:04.360 which I would vote for a Republican president right And 0:33:04.400 --> 0:33:07.200 for many of these Republicans, they could not fathom a 0:33:07.240 --> 0:33:09.440 condition under which they would. 0:33:09.280 --> 0:33:13.160 Be voluused about that. I want them to go grow 0:33:13.280 --> 0:33:13.840 that base. 0:33:15.400 --> 0:33:17.480 They're doing that, Angela, No, I don't see. 0:33:17.520 --> 0:33:19.440 I don't think they're doing that by speaking on the 0:33:19.520 --> 0:33:21.720 d NC stage. I think that some of the things 0:33:21.760 --> 0:33:24.440 they've done since then are helpful. And I'm just I 0:33:24.440 --> 0:33:26.880 would love to see the numbers of folks who were watching, Like, 0:33:26.920 --> 0:33:31.600 for example, Fox News ran DNC coverage. Where were those 0:33:31.640 --> 0:33:33.400 folks on those Fox News panels as. 0:33:33.440 --> 0:33:36.280 They gotta be invited right about. 0:33:36.640 --> 0:33:38.760 They can go and be Trojan horses. Go be like 0:33:38.800 --> 0:33:40.720 I got something to say about Donald Trump, y'all. I 0:33:40.800 --> 0:33:42.120 want to hear and then shift. 0:33:42.320 --> 0:33:44.440 I'd agree with you, Angela if the only stage that 0:33:44.440 --> 0:33:46.960 they were letting their voices be heard were on ours, 0:33:47.400 --> 0:33:50.000 But that isn't true. The op ed that got the 0:33:50.880 --> 0:33:55.640 mayor from Arizona on the stage came out before the DNC. 0:33:55.960 --> 0:33:59.680 He was letting his voice. He heard with McCain former employees, 0:34:00.480 --> 0:34:03.600 and where he lives, where he is mayor, is sitting 0:34:03.640 --> 0:34:06.840 elected official. He was doing that where he sits and 0:34:06.880 --> 0:34:07.920 talking to his people. 0:34:08.200 --> 0:34:10.920 I think there's something about you that enjoys it and 0:34:11.000 --> 0:34:13.799 I and I think that's fine. I just wanted to 0:34:13.840 --> 0:34:16.880 be effective, Like can you enjoy and be effective? I 0:34:16.920 --> 0:34:19.200 just think I need to be Yeah. 0:34:19.160 --> 0:34:22.239 I think I want to win. I want a Democrat. 0:34:22.400 --> 0:34:25.000 We want to be right back at Katie, which is 0:34:25.360 --> 0:34:28.760 before Andrew, let me just say after week quickly Andrew, 0:34:28.800 --> 0:34:31.879 before you. Yeah, we got to it. But I got 0:34:31.880 --> 0:34:34.799 a comment in a question and the question bringing us 0:34:34.960 --> 0:34:39.759 bringing up this this National Confederation. I want to hear 0:34:39.920 --> 0:34:41.799 what that's about. And I got something on this, but 0:34:41.840 --> 0:34:43.600 we gotta pay some bills, so we'll be right back 0:34:43.640 --> 0:34:44.200 on the other back. 0:34:58.920 --> 0:35:02.120 Hey Native Lympod, my name is Ryan. I'm coming to 0:35:02.160 --> 0:35:04.640 you from Idaho. Yes, there are black people in Idaho 0:35:05.000 --> 0:35:08.719 doing the Lord's work. Anyway, I have a question, a 0:35:08.760 --> 0:35:11.880 couple questions. The first one is probably more for Andrew. 0:35:12.719 --> 0:35:16.560 I would love to hear your thoughts on the potential 0:35:16.680 --> 0:35:21.600 of Florida becoming a swing state and actually being taken 0:35:21.640 --> 0:35:24.759 by the Harris Walls ticket. I'm also Texas I feel 0:35:24.800 --> 0:35:27.200 like might be in play as the potential swing state 0:35:27.239 --> 0:35:29.000 as well. I'd just love to hear your insights about that, 0:35:29.120 --> 0:35:32.120 especially with the momentum that has been happening in both 0:35:32.160 --> 0:35:35.440 of those states for the Democratic Party, and what it 0:35:35.440 --> 0:35:38.360 would take for the DNC to take in some extra 0:35:38.400 --> 0:35:42.040 funding to ensure that that could actually happen. My next 0:35:42.080 --> 0:35:44.359 question is I think you may have covered a part 0:35:44.360 --> 0:35:45.880 of this, but I would love to hear your thoughts 0:35:45.880 --> 0:35:49.359 about what the DNC is doing to prepare for the 0:35:49.400 --> 0:35:54.080 onslaught of election deniers that are in place and offices 0:35:54.160 --> 0:35:57.560 all over the country. What do you think the DNC 0:35:57.680 --> 0:36:02.040 should do to make sure that the election can function 0:36:02.160 --> 0:36:04.600 and run as smoothly as possible. Thanks you guys. 0:36:06.440 --> 0:36:09.960 Wow, Ryan, thank you so much. Andrew. I do want 0:36:10.000 --> 0:36:11.239 to hear your answer about the. 0:36:11.239 --> 0:36:14.040 Circle back on it really go yeah, because I want 0:36:14.040 --> 0:36:15.960 to hear your thoughts first. I'd love to No, I 0:36:16.000 --> 0:36:16.880 want you to talk. 0:36:16.760 --> 0:36:18.880 A first about the Florida swing state thing because I 0:36:18.920 --> 0:36:20.000 got something to say. 0:36:20.040 --> 0:36:22.160 I mean, I have scar tissue on Florida. 0:36:22.239 --> 0:36:22.399 Right. 0:36:23.480 --> 0:36:28.480 I ran in a state where Republicans were in control 0:36:28.760 --> 0:36:32.120 of the elections laws, in every system of governance in 0:36:32.160 --> 0:36:35.400 our state for twenty plus years. We got the closest 0:36:35.480 --> 0:36:37.960 point three percent different out of eight million voters having 0:36:38.000 --> 0:36:42.680 gone out and cast their vote. And you know, whatever happened, 0:36:42.840 --> 0:36:44.480 I didn't get sworn in as governor of the state 0:36:44.480 --> 0:36:48.560 of Florida, right, So everything notwithstanding that didn't occur. But 0:36:48.640 --> 0:36:51.000 I will tell you, you know, we just had elections 0:36:51.120 --> 0:36:53.680 this past Tuesday while we were up at the DNC, 0:36:54.239 --> 0:36:57.640 and Democrats flipped a number of seats over fifty seats 0:36:58.239 --> 0:37:01.359 from local jurisdictions all the way up to state legislative 0:37:01.600 --> 0:37:07.680 level seats from our hands to d hands, particularly on 0:37:07.719 --> 0:37:10.600 these school boards where they were running these conservative candidates. 0:37:10.680 --> 0:37:12.439 Ron de Santa's Han picked a whole bunch of them, 0:37:12.600 --> 0:37:15.160 and many of them went down in defeat at the 0:37:15.239 --> 0:37:17.399 hands of Democrats. So I think the signs of pointing 0:37:17.440 --> 0:37:19.160 in the right direction. I think we are a state 0:37:19.200 --> 0:37:22.359 that is going to require more than election year investments. 0:37:22.840 --> 0:37:25.880 We need investments year round, three sixty five, year in 0:37:25.960 --> 0:37:29.360 and year out in order to come back. Because guess what, y'all, 0:37:29.400 --> 0:37:31.839 if we even turn out the requisite number of votes 0:37:31.880 --> 0:37:34.120 that we need, we got to have enough in the 0:37:34.160 --> 0:37:38.640 bank to then get over all the disenfranchisement, all the 0:37:38.640 --> 0:37:41.399 invalidating the votes that they're going to do, whatever court 0:37:41.400 --> 0:37:43.520 cases they are going to take before the judges that 0:37:43.560 --> 0:37:46.840 they have appointed. So the system's got to be almost 0:37:46.880 --> 0:37:51.240 bigger than the voters themselves, just because of the system 0:37:51.280 --> 0:37:54.080 of disenfranchisement that exists in this state. So I love 0:37:54.120 --> 0:37:56.840 to share the optimism of my brother in Idaho, and 0:37:56.920 --> 0:37:59.640 I do have optimism, and I'm so thankful to our 0:37:59.719 --> 0:38:01.959 chair here in the state of Florida and Nikki Freed. 0:38:02.400 --> 0:38:06.319 But we should compete, absolutely, and if we do the 0:38:06.360 --> 0:38:09.600 work right and we put some you know, some goldies 0:38:09.600 --> 0:38:11.600 in the pocket, we might pull this thing through. But 0:38:11.719 --> 0:38:15.080 anything that gets us closer is a good thing in 0:38:15.120 --> 0:38:17.040 this state, and I think the same is probably true 0:38:17.080 --> 0:38:19.319 in the state of Texas. But they're coming at us 0:38:19.360 --> 0:38:22.600 with everything, and I know you've got the example from 0:38:22.680 --> 0:38:24.840 Texas that just makes the point even clear. It's a 0:38:24.880 --> 0:38:27.560 repeat of exactly what Ron DeSantis did right here in 0:38:27.600 --> 0:38:30.600 the state of Florida, using law enforcement to suppress people's 0:38:30.840 --> 0:38:31.480 abilities to the. 0:38:31.480 --> 0:38:34.279 Ballot before we get there. As I know Tip has 0:38:34.280 --> 0:38:36.560 something there. I want to just say, Andrew, the reason 0:38:36.600 --> 0:38:38.480 why I wanted to come to you first, I know 0:38:38.560 --> 0:38:44.600 that it's painful, is because there is no better political operative, 0:38:45.000 --> 0:38:49.360 former elected official, former candidate for the Harris Walls campaign 0:38:49.480 --> 0:38:52.719 to talk to than you. The reason for it is 0:38:53.239 --> 0:38:55.920 not only was it within reach, had they counted all 0:38:55.960 --> 0:38:59.279 the ballots, it was won, so they got to talk 0:38:59.320 --> 0:39:01.879 to you. There's no other person they need to talk 0:39:01.880 --> 0:39:03.640 to more. That's all I really want to say about. 0:39:03.880 --> 0:39:06.840 Just say they haven't had if they put the muscle 0:39:06.880 --> 0:39:09.360 strength that they did in the If they do what 0:39:09.440 --> 0:39:13.120 they did, and that second cycle where Chris was at 0:39:13.160 --> 0:39:16.200 the top and Deming's ran statewide, we had a twenty 0:39:16.239 --> 0:39:21.400 point loss, twenty point difference, And my point is y'all 0:39:21.440 --> 0:39:23.840 do what you won't, but we had a record I 0:39:23.840 --> 0:39:26.759 think a pathway to victory. That's right, and it's one 0:39:26.800 --> 0:39:29.760 that we have to implement every single year period. 0:39:30.239 --> 0:39:33.200 So please make sure. Here's while y'all call Andrew gillim 0:39:33.239 --> 0:39:35.719 because this is really important. Like I'm not saying he 0:39:35.800 --> 0:39:38.360 got a layer anybody, but he definitely needs to be 0:39:38.400 --> 0:39:41.000 consulting y'all. It is for your own best interest. And 0:39:41.040 --> 0:39:44.160 if you want to win the United States of America, 0:39:44.320 --> 0:39:46.279 you might want to talk to Florida too. We just 0:39:46.440 --> 0:39:49.359 can't turn into turn our back on any state. TIF 0:39:49.400 --> 0:39:52.040 speaking of turning our backs on states or states turning 0:39:52.080 --> 0:39:54.840 their backs on us. I feel like you got something 0:39:54.840 --> 0:39:58.480 to say about Texas. I want, but I'm gonna talk 0:39:58.480 --> 0:40:02.160 about Texas. I'm not talking to me A better transition aout. 0:40:05.680 --> 0:40:07.160 Do you know why I want to hear about dread 0:40:07.160 --> 0:40:10.759 Scott Because did y'all see The Princess Brian when y'all 0:40:10.760 --> 0:40:12.440 were young. I used to love that movie, but they 0:40:12.520 --> 0:40:14.520 used to call it was a scary pirate in there, 0:40:14.560 --> 0:40:16.839 and they called them the dread pirate Scott. So every 0:40:16.880 --> 0:40:18.560 time you say that, I think it a dread pirate 0:40:18.600 --> 0:40:25.759 Scott anyway, but I'll talk about Texas. Yes, So here's 0:40:25.560 --> 0:40:28.719 my thing, and I think we're kind of all talking 0:40:28.719 --> 0:40:31.840 about similar things. The go ok is going to cheat 0:40:33.120 --> 0:40:35.120 that the more people who show up and vote, the 0:40:35.200 --> 0:40:37.560 less likely they are to win elections. So they have 0:40:37.800 --> 0:40:42.320 historically always engaged in voter suppression all across the country. 0:40:42.320 --> 0:40:44.120 It was not just the Bible Belt, it wasn't just 0:40:44.160 --> 0:40:46.600 in the South. Voter suppression has taken place all across 0:40:46.640 --> 0:40:50.759 the country. When they struck down the Voter Rights and 0:40:50.800 --> 0:40:55.320 Shelby be Holder, which struck down Section two of the 0:40:55.400 --> 0:41:01.120 Voting which essentially said that states or states with a 0:41:01.239 --> 0:41:04.680 history of voter suppression had to get federal permission before 0:41:04.719 --> 0:41:06.879 making any changes. That has now gone away and we're 0:41:06.920 --> 0:41:12.520 seeing the impact of that. LULAC, this is the League 0:41:12.520 --> 0:41:17.880 of United Latin American Citizens, have filed a lawsuit against 0:41:18.239 --> 0:41:21.480 Ken Paxton. Ken Paxton is the attorney general out of 0:41:21.480 --> 0:41:23.960 the state of Texas. He is a Trump minion, a 0:41:24.040 --> 0:41:27.680 Trump appointee, a Trump acolyte. You can look at this 0:41:27.719 --> 0:41:30.400 guy's history. He was one of the outspoken Tea Party 0:41:30.400 --> 0:41:34.759 members in Congress. When he shifted to local to state 0:41:34.760 --> 0:41:38.000 politics in Texas. He's an outspoken opponent of any access 0:41:38.000 --> 0:41:41.440 to abortion rights. He's an outspoken opponent to LGBTQ rights. 0:41:42.280 --> 0:41:46.320 His policies are racist and xenophobic and heartless. This man 0:41:46.400 --> 0:41:49.880 has been wreaking havoc on the Latino communities in Texas. 0:41:50.040 --> 0:41:53.000 Let me tell you why. An estimated thirty six point 0:41:53.000 --> 0:41:55.960 two million Latinos are eligible to vote this year alone. 0:41:56.000 --> 0:41:59.319 That's up from thirty two million thirty two point three 0:41:59.320 --> 0:42:02.360 million in two twenty twenty. That's a four million increase. 0:42:02.440 --> 0:42:06.560 Latino voters have eclipsed Black voters in the largest community 0:42:06.560 --> 0:42:10.399 of color eligible to vote, eligible, not registered, eligible to vote. 0:42:10.400 --> 0:42:14.680 That's important. Every year about one point four million Latinos 0:42:14.719 --> 0:42:18.920 become eligible to vote in the United States. Majority of 0:42:18.960 --> 0:42:22.440 Latino voters voted for the Biden Hairs ticket in twenty twenty. 0:42:23.600 --> 0:42:27.719 That's all according to Pew Research. So the Latino community 0:42:27.760 --> 0:42:30.799 is projected to account for fourteen point seven percent of 0:42:30.800 --> 0:42:33.640 all eligible voters in November. I want you to take 0:42:33.680 --> 0:42:36.680 a listen to eighty seven year old Lydia Martinez, who 0:42:36.680 --> 0:42:39.560 lives in San Antonio. She's been a LULAC member for 0:42:39.600 --> 0:42:42.759 over thirty five years and she works to expand voter 0:42:42.880 --> 0:42:47.960 registration among seniors and veterans in South Texas. Let me 0:42:48.600 --> 0:42:53.719 let you hear from her what Ken Paxton's regime put 0:42:53.760 --> 0:42:56.919 her through in her home. Take a listen, I said, 0:42:56.960 --> 0:42:57.960 let me get dressed. 0:42:58.120 --> 0:42:59.960 It's just a quad site. 0:43:00.280 --> 0:43:01.080 Where were you wearing? 0:43:01.360 --> 0:43:05.440 My night gun? And I had all these policemen around me. 0:43:06.520 --> 0:43:12.000 It was embarrassing, humiliating. I was so angry, it was horrible. 0:43:12.880 --> 0:43:19.360 So after bursting into this woman's home, Ken Paxson's regime, 0:43:20.560 --> 0:43:25.000 basically this is voter intimidation. This is a troubling history 0:43:25.040 --> 0:43:27.520 of voter suppression that has always existed in the United States, 0:43:27.560 --> 0:43:32.040 but particularly in states like Texas where demographic changes have 0:43:32.239 --> 0:43:37.880 shifted the political wins there, and Paxson's office has announced 0:43:37.920 --> 0:43:41.600 that they are launching undercover operations. I want to remind 0:43:41.640 --> 0:43:46.040 everyone Texas is an open cary state. This is, according 0:43:46.080 --> 0:43:50.400 to him, investigations because alleging some organizations are unlawfully registering 0:43:50.440 --> 0:43:53.279 non citizens to vote. Non citizens. Now imagine if you're 0:43:53.320 --> 0:43:56.719 here undocumented, You're trying to say, off everybody's radar, are 0:43:56.760 --> 0:43:59.120 you going to risk being deported by showing up to vote? 0:43:59.160 --> 0:44:03.000 The allegation is sol Is Acid nine. So I wanted 0:44:03.040 --> 0:44:07.399 to raise this because the only people who win when 0:44:07.400 --> 0:44:11.799 we beef are them. Latino voters are facing voter suppression, 0:44:11.880 --> 0:44:14.400 not just in Texas, Andrew and your neck of the woods, 0:44:14.400 --> 0:44:17.600 in Florida and everywhere else in the country. Black voters 0:44:17.840 --> 0:44:20.960 in Georgia and everywhere else in the country are facing 0:44:21.000 --> 0:44:24.399 these type of voter suppression tactics. We have to be 0:44:24.760 --> 0:44:27.279 aware of them, we have to stay ahead of them. 0:44:27.680 --> 0:44:30.680 And this is how they're trying to cheat before the election. 0:44:30.920 --> 0:44:35.360 I can't imagine what they're going to do after the election. Angela. 0:44:35.640 --> 0:44:39.279 I think this leads us up to that. I think 0:44:39.320 --> 0:44:42.359 this fight could land in the courts. I don't see 0:44:42.400 --> 0:44:44.280 I hope I'm wrong. I hope we win this election 0:44:44.320 --> 0:44:47.600 in a decisive way where it's not even worth going 0:44:47.640 --> 0:44:50.320 to the courts. But if it's one on the margins, 0:44:50.400 --> 0:44:52.880 I do not anticipate that we will have a decisive 0:44:53.560 --> 0:44:56.279 victory that night. I do not anticipate that Donald Trump 0:44:56.320 --> 0:44:59.439 will concede to a peaceful transition of power. I don't 0:44:59.440 --> 0:45:03.160 anticipate his supporters will accept election results they don't like. 0:45:03.239 --> 0:45:06.759 And we're already seeing some of that now with these 0:45:06.800 --> 0:45:07.760 groups like the NFRA. 0:45:09.000 --> 0:45:11.160 You know, the thing that I want to say too, 0:45:11.200 --> 0:45:14.760 Tiff is with Ms Martinez. I'm so sorry. My parents 0:45:14.760 --> 0:45:17.840 are in their eighties and I just can't imagine my 0:45:18.040 --> 0:45:20.440 parents or their friends doing this kind of work and 0:45:20.480 --> 0:45:24.280 being subjected to this type of treatment. This woman talks 0:45:24.320 --> 0:45:28.280 about nine officers showing up at her home with weapons 0:45:28.360 --> 0:45:32.880 drawn and questioning her for over three hours. Manuel Medina, 0:45:33.239 --> 0:45:35.880 who's also a LULAC member, said his home was raided 0:45:35.920 --> 0:45:38.279 and they broke his door down. And this is for 0:45:38.560 --> 0:45:42.840 alleged voter fraud that they continue to make up. We've 0:45:42.880 --> 0:45:45.560 talked about it for a long time, voter suppression in 0:45:45.600 --> 0:45:49.839 their alleged solutions that they've introduced bills over and over again, 0:45:49.920 --> 0:45:52.800 hundreds of bills over the last several years since President 0:45:52.800 --> 0:45:56.200 Obama was elected. It is a solution in search of 0:45:56.239 --> 0:45:58.400 a problem. That was the common way that this was 0:45:58.440 --> 0:46:01.160 referred to. It's the way we still need to refer 0:46:01.239 --> 0:46:05.520 to it if they don't win it talking about suppression 0:46:05.600 --> 0:46:08.440 and voter fraud because it just doesn't stick. The election 0:46:08.600 --> 0:46:12.160 deniers are the places where they're going to go next. 0:46:12.160 --> 0:46:15.280 And I want to just say, because we're in Texas. 0:46:15.320 --> 0:46:16.920 I just looked it up because and this is to 0:46:17.000 --> 0:46:19.920 draw the bridge. I think further that tiff was creating 0:46:19.960 --> 0:46:23.680 we're beefing with each other. Crystal Mason, who we had 0:46:23.719 --> 0:46:25.839 on the stage with us at Essence, is on the 0:46:25.880 --> 0:46:29.840 other side of this black woman who was released, she 0:46:29.920 --> 0:46:34.080 was incarcerated, formerly incarcerated, comes out votes in an election 0:46:34.200 --> 0:46:36.080 with the provisional ballot, as we talked about on the 0:46:36.160 --> 0:46:39.319 essence stage. Well, guess what just last week while we 0:46:39.320 --> 0:46:41.920 were at the DNC, we know that she was fighting 0:46:42.320 --> 0:46:46.560 and facing a five year sentence after casting that provisional ballot, 0:46:46.880 --> 0:46:50.200 courts overturned it. Well, this da from Trek County comes 0:46:50.239 --> 0:46:52.400 back and says, you know what, I really think the 0:46:52.440 --> 0:46:54.319 court needs to take a second look look at this. 0:46:54.760 --> 0:46:56.920 So if they asked the Court of Criminal Appeals to 0:46:56.960 --> 0:47:00.000 reverse the decision, the court is now reviewing that case. 0:47:00.160 --> 0:47:03.040 That's just six days ago. So Texas is covering the 0:47:03.120 --> 0:47:05.960 board on voter fraud. That is the main issue that 0:47:06.000 --> 0:47:08.640 we're facing. I think that we have to understand that 0:47:08.640 --> 0:47:12.360 they're willing to stop at no lengths. So this superseding indictment. 0:47:12.600 --> 0:47:14.640 The Jack Smith has come out with saying, you know, 0:47:14.680 --> 0:47:18.600 what the court rule one way on presidential immunity. Now 0:47:18.600 --> 0:47:20.440 we need to take a look at this. He's consulted 0:47:20.480 --> 0:47:23.200 with everyone at DOJ, saying this is actually a case. 0:47:23.200 --> 0:47:25.120 We're looking at it, and it is because if we 0:47:25.200 --> 0:47:28.320 continue to turn a blind eye, not we, but they 0:47:28.320 --> 0:47:32.560 continue to turn a blind eye to January sixth and 0:47:32.640 --> 0:47:35.040 all of the election deniers that showed up to the 0:47:35.120 --> 0:47:38.800 United States Capital, we're going to be facing a real problem. 0:47:38.840 --> 0:47:40.759 I think we need to get some data pulled on 0:47:41.320 --> 0:47:44.920 how many people have been elected on these commissions, these boards, 0:47:44.960 --> 0:47:49.279 these governor appointed boards, looking at what they're putting in 0:47:49.280 --> 0:47:52.120 place to deny the election results. If they're not rules, 0:47:52.200 --> 0:47:53.120 if they don't go in there and. 0:47:53.160 --> 0:47:55.600 Their budgets before you go to dress stock, well, we 0:47:55.640 --> 0:47:57.440 got to take a break before she goes to dresscott. 0:47:57.480 --> 0:47:59.680 But now that I was, I just. 0:47:59.640 --> 0:48:02.759 Wanted to make a comment prior before we end it 0:48:03.200 --> 0:48:05.600 on this on what you just discussed. So I guess 0:48:05.600 --> 0:48:07.160 we'll do it after we pay it. 0:48:07.239 --> 0:48:08.640 Make you point and take us to break. 0:48:11.160 --> 0:48:14.080 Not only did Trump commission and panel a commission to 0:48:14.080 --> 0:48:16.840 look at voter fraud which came up with absolutely nothing. 0:48:17.320 --> 0:48:20.120 Democrat didn't didn't pandel it Trump and paneled it. They 0:48:20.120 --> 0:48:22.120 came up with nothing as relates to voter fraud. I 0:48:22.200 --> 0:48:25.920 just got to say, in Texas, Miss Lydia Rodriguez, obvious, 0:48:26.080 --> 0:48:30.719 Crystal Masons Martinez. I'm sorry Crystal Mason's example. While they 0:48:30.760 --> 0:48:33.680 may be the individuals whose names we call, this is 0:48:33.719 --> 0:48:37.200 a shot over the bow to every Latino voter and 0:48:37.239 --> 0:48:39.399 every black voter in the state of Texas to say 0:48:39.400 --> 0:48:42.400 that you are not wanted. And when we see a 0:48:42.480 --> 0:48:45.279 not wanted sign, when people step and stand in the 0:48:45.360 --> 0:48:50.120 doorway of progress, Hello South, when they stay in the 0:48:50.160 --> 0:48:53.720 door where we we go through a window, we figure 0:48:53.760 --> 0:48:56.120 a way to go in and have our impact. However, 0:48:56.200 --> 0:48:57.840 we have to make it happen. I just want to 0:48:57.880 --> 0:49:01.320 make sure that their attacks on us, y'all don't land. 0:49:01.880 --> 0:49:04.600 There are going to be these efforts that go after individuals. 0:49:04.600 --> 0:49:06.480 They are going to attempt to prosecute us. They are 0:49:06.480 --> 0:49:10.320 going to attempt to malign us and call us everything 0:49:10.360 --> 0:49:13.359 but a child of God. And if we let them win, 0:49:13.480 --> 0:49:16.240 winning for them is going to be every individual citizen 0:49:16.239 --> 0:49:19.480 who is eligible to vote making the decision that they 0:49:19.480 --> 0:49:21.520 are not going to vote because they don't want to 0:49:21.520 --> 0:49:24.080 deal with that drama. I understand you're not wanting to 0:49:24.080 --> 0:49:27.640 deal with it, but their strategy isn't to get miss Lydia. 0:49:28.400 --> 0:49:31.800 Their strategy is not just to get Crystal by herself. 0:49:31.840 --> 0:49:35.319 The strategy is to keep the rest of us from 0:49:35.440 --> 0:49:39.719 daring to exercise our rights because of if we do, 0:49:39.960 --> 0:49:42.839 these are the consequences that await us, and that would 0:49:42.840 --> 0:49:44.960 be a win for them. We cannot allow them to 0:49:45.080 --> 0:49:47.960 have the courts. We will get that back in balance 0:49:47.960 --> 0:49:51.879 at some point, but this that's going down right now, 0:49:51.920 --> 0:49:55.120 and it's going to be repeated from here until election 0:49:55.239 --> 0:49:58.120 day and beyond. We cannot let them win, y'all, because 0:49:58.160 --> 0:50:01.239 their goal is to keep us in time, imitated, silenced 0:50:01.320 --> 0:50:03.719 in our corner, and not voting. That's how they win. 0:50:04.120 --> 0:50:06.200 So I just wanted to just say that bring this 0:50:06.320 --> 0:50:09.320 to the point that it ain't about these individual stories alone, y'all. 0:50:09.320 --> 0:50:12.240 This is this is a strategy that they have deployed. 0:50:12.280 --> 0:50:14.680 They know it, they invented it. It's worked so many 0:50:14.680 --> 0:50:17.839 times before, but not this day, not today, Not this day. 0:50:18.080 --> 0:50:20.640 Somebody called that stupid eight hundred number they had for 0:50:21.320 --> 0:50:25.880 voter fraud that Trump enacted, and everybody they started getting 0:50:25.880 --> 0:50:28.480 pranks like everybody started calling and somebody said, Hi, I 0:50:28.520 --> 0:50:30.720 just want you to know I voted in off fifty states. 0:50:32.120 --> 0:50:37.400 It's so stupid anyway, all right, exactly, yeah, minute. 0:50:37.160 --> 0:50:38.399 Mark, we're gonna hit this brake. 0:50:44.560 --> 0:50:47.360 Wellcome, welcome, Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome. 0:50:50.120 --> 0:50:53.400 Okay, So well, we've teased it this entire show, and 0:50:53.440 --> 0:50:55.399 it was not by design. We kept want to get 0:50:55.440 --> 0:50:58.120 to it. But this feels like the best place near 0:50:58.160 --> 0:51:00.400 the end of the show to talk about something that 0:51:00.640 --> 0:51:03.279 has sounded like near the end of time. So the 0:51:03.400 --> 0:51:07.600 National Federation of Republican Assemblies, I've been calling them the Confederation. 0:51:08.280 --> 0:51:12.600 They call themselves Frederick Douglas Republicans. God only knows why, 0:51:12.680 --> 0:51:16.359 because they're using something from a night or Sorry at 0:51:16.400 --> 0:51:20.920 eighteen fifty seven Supreme Court decision against dred Scott, where 0:51:20.920 --> 0:51:24.040 the Supreme Court ruled that the Constitution didn't apply to 0:51:24.080 --> 0:51:27.239 dred Scott because he wasn't a United States citizen and 0:51:27.280 --> 0:51:31.920 therefore he had to remain enslaved. Well, this National Federation 0:51:32.000 --> 0:51:35.880 of Republican Assemblies has decided that that ruling should apply 0:51:36.680 --> 0:51:40.360 to Kamala Harris and she should not be qualified to 0:51:40.640 --> 0:51:43.520 run for the United States presidency. Now here's the problem. 0:51:44.200 --> 0:51:46.960 We've talked about the birtherism movement for a long time. 0:51:47.320 --> 0:51:49.120 We know that Donald Trump was one of the chief 0:51:49.680 --> 0:51:52.840 architects of it when Barack Obama ran. And here the 0:51:52.960 --> 0:51:56.319 NFRA is coming around to try to run that thing back. 0:51:56.360 --> 0:51:59.200 And they did just do it to Kamala Harris. They 0:51:59.200 --> 0:52:01.160 also did it to some folks on their side named 0:52:01.239 --> 0:52:05.200 Nikki Haley and Vivek Ramaswami. So there's that. Now here's 0:52:05.200 --> 0:52:07.360 the little history lesson I just have for y'all, and 0:52:07.400 --> 0:52:09.799 I love for y'all to weigh in. There are two 0:52:09.840 --> 0:52:15.080 things that makes this completely irrelevant. One is, and Andrew, 0:52:15.120 --> 0:52:16.399 I knew you were going to get to this too. 0:52:16.480 --> 0:52:20.040 There was the thirteenth, the fourteenth and fifteenth Amendment, all 0:52:20.160 --> 0:52:24.759 ratified between eighteen sixty five and eighteen sixty nine reconstruction. 0:52:25.480 --> 0:52:28.480 How about that that would make it so that what 0:52:28.520 --> 0:52:30.920 they're talking about from this dread Scott decision is no 0:52:30.960 --> 0:52:33.759 longer applicable. And then there was an eighteen ninety eight 0:52:33.840 --> 0:52:38.239 Supreme Court case US versus won kim Arc, which was 0:52:38.320 --> 0:52:41.360 about whether or not the Chinese Exclusion Act applied to 0:52:41.400 --> 0:52:45.080 this particular citizen. They made it very clear in that 0:52:45.160 --> 0:52:48.080 court case as well, who what natural born citizen was 0:52:48.120 --> 0:52:52.320 and the child had to be born here. Kamala Harris's 0:52:52.320 --> 0:52:55.520 parents became United States citizens later. I don't even want 0:52:55.520 --> 0:52:57.080 to get into this because I'm tired of this. We 0:52:57.120 --> 0:52:59.640 shouldn't still be talking about it. It is so dumb. But 0:52:59.719 --> 0:53:01.840 I just want to make sure y'all understand from the 0:53:01.920 --> 0:53:06.480 National Confederacy of the Republicans assemblies y'all on that bush. 0:53:06.600 --> 0:53:09.759 Yeah, but also there's the little thing that happened in 0:53:09.840 --> 0:53:13.640 eighteen sixty one. I mean this happened. This ruling was 0:53:13.880 --> 0:53:17.600 eighteen fifty seven. This is before the Civil War of 0:53:17.680 --> 0:53:21.000 eighteen sixty one. Yes, So this is literally it's like 0:53:21.040 --> 0:53:25.520 you're going against America. Like it would literally be like 0:53:25.600 --> 0:53:29.279 pushing a policy that that Russia introduced in America. This 0:53:29.400 --> 0:53:31.520 was not an American thing. So every time you see 0:53:31.520 --> 0:53:35.279 people flagging these conservative flags and wearing this, it's like 0:53:35.360 --> 0:53:39.080 those people fought against what are now the United States. 0:53:39.160 --> 0:53:42.560 They were looking to secede from the Union. So it's 0:53:42.600 --> 0:53:47.880 bizarre that they're pulling, well, the America that exists today. 0:53:48.080 --> 0:53:52.760 It's very anti American from those But I'm talking logic, 0:53:53.000 --> 0:53:54.160 so I don't know if that's all. 0:53:54.040 --> 0:53:54.719 All that. 0:53:57.000 --> 0:54:02.120 Logic. What are they talking because. 0:54:01.239 --> 0:54:04.560 I think they're talking strict constructionism, right, think they call 0:54:04.640 --> 0:54:08.320 themselves strict constructionists. They stick to the letter of the Constitution. 0:54:09.040 --> 0:54:11.560 But obviously, if you're going to subscribe to the system 0:54:11.760 --> 0:54:15.640 of governance in the United States of America, decisions that 0:54:15.680 --> 0:54:19.280 are decided by the United States Supreme Court can be 0:54:19.920 --> 0:54:23.680 overturned by future courts. And that's exactly what Angela pointed 0:54:23.719 --> 0:54:26.560 out while dread Scott. We may have been property, you 0:54:26.719 --> 0:54:29.720 fast forward that thing a little bit. We're no longer property. 0:54:29.719 --> 0:54:34.000 We're human, we're people us unless they maintain that we're 0:54:34.000 --> 0:54:36.959 still property right, and if that's the case, then you'd 0:54:36.960 --> 0:54:40.239 have to delegitimize a whole set of progress that's taking 0:54:40.280 --> 0:54:42.720 place since that point at the hands of black foes. 0:54:43.160 --> 0:54:45.480 So it's just it doesn't make any sense. I just 0:54:45.520 --> 0:54:49.080 wish that they were in some ways, some ways fidel 0:54:49.480 --> 0:54:50.880 to what it is that they say they stand for. 0:54:50.920 --> 0:54:52.719 If you stand for the Constitution of the United States 0:54:52.760 --> 0:54:56.279 and the laws therein appertaining to its citizens, then you 0:54:56.440 --> 0:54:59.319 know that a court, when a court comes down on 0:54:59.360 --> 0:55:02.120 a decision that becomes the order of the day in 0:55:02.160 --> 0:55:04.919 alignment with the Constitution and the laws up until such 0:55:04.960 --> 0:55:08.200 point as they are changed. Well, they were changed through 0:55:08.200 --> 0:55:11.560 a war, through a Supreme Court, through a presidency, and 0:55:11.640 --> 0:55:14.160 a whole legacy of progress that's taken place ever since. 0:55:14.560 --> 0:55:19.279 These folks, these honestly, Angela, I think they are trolling us. 0:55:19.400 --> 0:55:22.240 Excuse my language. I just left the AMI convention. Anyway, 0:55:22.440 --> 0:55:24.960 I think that they are trolling us because if they 0:55:24.960 --> 0:55:28.000 were serious, they would follow a lawsuit. And I need 0:55:28.040 --> 0:55:29.640 to be careful what I'm asking for, as you have 0:55:29.800 --> 0:55:35.680 already won. The Supreme Court is backwards to But I 0:55:35.760 --> 0:55:39.120 cannot imagine just as I couldn't imagine us declaring a 0:55:39.200 --> 0:55:42.319 king in twenty twenty four, I couldn't imagine a real 0:55:42.440 --> 0:55:45.480 legitimate court saying, oh, Dred Scott still snids legitimate. 0:55:45.600 --> 0:55:47.719 And that's the thing. I think that what the reason 0:55:47.760 --> 0:55:49.640 why I wanted to talk about this is not to 0:55:49.719 --> 0:55:53.080 give it teeth, But just like we talked about the 0:55:53.160 --> 0:55:57.319 voter fraud, the alleged voter fraud attacks, the raids, these 0:55:57.320 --> 0:55:59.320 are things that I never thought we would see in 0:55:59.320 --> 0:56:03.440 our lifetime, y'all. These are the things that our grandparents witness, 0:56:03.600 --> 0:56:06.840 our parents on the tailent witness. Why are we witnessing 0:56:06.880 --> 0:56:09.279 it again? I'm bringing this this It's not a case, 0:56:09.280 --> 0:56:12.040 it's a resolution they introduced, but I'm bringing it up 0:56:12.080 --> 0:56:14.759 as a flag because they could try to take this 0:56:14.800 --> 0:56:17.719 to the court and I don't trust the Supreme Court 0:56:17.760 --> 0:56:18.720 of the United States. 0:56:18.719 --> 0:56:22.200 And that sounds crazy, but I don't trust it. And 0:56:22.239 --> 0:56:23.799 so Andrew was like, why don't they just too? 0:56:23.880 --> 0:56:24.920 I'm like, why don't we not? 0:56:25.600 --> 0:56:27.759 And it doesn't sound crazy that you don't trust them 0:56:27.760 --> 0:56:30.879 to me? Can I ask you guys a question before 0:56:30.920 --> 0:56:33.359 we get to tult action. I just want to hear 0:56:33.360 --> 0:56:35.759 from y' all on this before we gotta go. Do 0:56:35.800 --> 0:56:40.080 we think a debate between Kamala Harris, Vice President Kamala 0:56:40.120 --> 0:56:41.720 Harris and Donald Trump is going to happen? 0:56:43.200 --> 0:56:43.480 Yes? 0:56:43.840 --> 0:56:44.440 You say yes? 0:56:45.520 --> 0:56:45.759 Yes? 0:56:46.040 --> 0:56:46.400 Andrew? 0:56:46.400 --> 0:56:47.080 What you say. 0:56:48.840 --> 0:56:52.160 Was he frozen if his team decides his only Yeah? 0:56:52.160 --> 0:56:52.239 No. 0:56:52.320 --> 0:56:54.600 I was thinking about it because I want to say no, 0:56:55.320 --> 0:56:58.520 because I think this guy ultimately is intimidated by her 0:56:58.600 --> 0:57:00.680 the fact that she has stepped on the other side 0:57:00.680 --> 0:57:01.520 of this mute button. 0:57:01.600 --> 0:57:01.759 Right. 0:57:02.120 --> 0:57:05.000 If y'all remember it was Trump's team that did not 0:57:05.040 --> 0:57:08.000 want those Mike Madet when he was dividing Baden by Biden. 0:57:08.480 --> 0:57:11.760 Biden stood firm that he wanted his team did because 0:57:12.160 --> 0:57:14.600 he did not want to have what happened with with 0:57:14.920 --> 0:57:18.040 UH with Clinton, where he's over talking her and over speaking. 0:57:18.040 --> 0:57:19.720 So it was a it was a way to keep 0:57:19.800 --> 0:57:23.720 him safe. Well, guess what Comlin got them safety concerns. 0:57:23.880 --> 0:57:26.680 She feels like if if, if you, if you feel 0:57:26.680 --> 0:57:29.200 in froggy, jump and see what's on the other side 0:57:29.240 --> 0:57:31.640 of the landing, because she trusts her instincts and she 0:57:31.720 --> 0:57:35.760 trusts her ability to handle him. I trust her ability 0:57:36.000 --> 0:57:39.760 to fully handle that dude body him. But but but 0:57:39.880 --> 0:57:42.760 his team is now saying, okay, mute button must stay 0:57:42.760 --> 0:57:45.640 in place because they don't trust that their candidate is 0:57:45.760 --> 0:57:47.520 safe in her hands. 0:57:47.840 --> 0:57:48.600 And they're right to. 0:57:48.560 --> 0:57:52.680 Conclude that that looks like lily pad. So if you're 0:57:52.680 --> 0:58:00.440 feel in frogly feeling frog, if you're feeling frog and 0:58:00.600 --> 0:58:01.800 leaf on this lily. 0:58:01.640 --> 0:58:03.880 We should have been wearing those T shirts at the DNC. 0:58:04.720 --> 0:58:07.400 I'm just saying, I feel Angela will body them body 0:58:07.440 --> 0:58:10.000 him too, So it doesn't you know either way either way, 0:58:10.240 --> 0:58:13.200 they don't trust it. So my instincts say he doesn't 0:58:13.200 --> 0:58:18.240 want a condition under which he's he is handled by her. Yeah, 0:58:18.280 --> 0:58:21.160 and I don't understand. I don't really believe that that 0:58:21.360 --> 0:58:22.800 she would pull out of a debate. 0:58:23.720 --> 0:58:26.040 But if anybody back out, he's going to back out. 0:58:26.520 --> 0:58:26.760 Yeah. 0:58:26.960 --> 0:58:28.560 So so, so can we talk about this? 0:58:29.280 --> 0:58:31.000 I want to get into it. I'm not doing this 0:58:31.160 --> 0:58:33.800 caricature that Angela wants to do. But we got a plan. 0:58:33.880 --> 0:58:35.520 Oh my god, that was never the plan. 0:58:35.600 --> 0:58:38.080 Man, We got a plan now though, right, James, g 0:58:38.480 --> 0:58:40.400 our friend, James, are we gonna do Are we gonna 0:58:40.400 --> 0:58:42.080 do that next week? Yeah? We want to do it 0:58:42.080 --> 0:58:42.520 next week. 0:58:42.600 --> 0:58:44.200 Wait, you didn't tell us whether or not you thought 0:58:44.200 --> 0:58:46.400 he voting? I mean, is he going to debate? 0:58:46.680 --> 0:58:46.840 Oh? 0:58:46.880 --> 0:58:46.960 You? 0:58:47.040 --> 0:58:47.200 Oh? 0:58:47.320 --> 0:58:47.800 Do I think? 0:58:47.840 --> 0:58:48.000 Oh? 0:58:48.040 --> 0:58:50.720 I so, I say no. I do not think these 0:58:50.720 --> 0:58:52.440 two will come together in the debate stage, as much 0:58:52.480 --> 0:58:54.320 as I would like them to. I say he's gonna 0:58:54.360 --> 0:58:56.520 find some reason to pull out. I hope I'm wrong. 0:58:57.080 --> 0:58:59.080 If there how much money are we betting on this? 0:59:00.440 --> 0:59:03.480 Twenty dollars got five five on it? 0:59:04.040 --> 0:59:04.680 No dinner? 0:59:04.760 --> 0:59:07.120 Okay, dinner, okay, dinner. 0:59:07.560 --> 0:59:12.040 So if they okay, okay, if they if they debate, 0:59:12.320 --> 0:59:15.280 Andrew and Tiff are buying me dinner? Yes? 0:59:15.480 --> 0:59:17.400 Both the y'all are on that side. I'm gonna win. 0:59:17.520 --> 0:59:18.240 I'm ready. 0:59:18.240 --> 0:59:19.200 I said, I was up the middle. 0:59:19.680 --> 0:59:22.480 No, you can't be in the You always trying to 0:59:22.520 --> 0:59:22.680 do it. 0:59:24.200 --> 0:59:25.160 I'm never in the middle. 0:59:25.440 --> 0:59:25.880 Andrew. 0:59:26.000 --> 0:59:29.480 You are trying to most debate or not. You said no, 0:59:29.640 --> 0:59:36.080 what so Andrew? You trying to play both yes, but 0:59:37.200 --> 0:59:39.320 tell him he does it. I do not try to 0:59:39.560 --> 0:59:41.040 Katie carry. 0:59:42.920 --> 0:59:45.120 Not being entertained. That's not both. 0:59:45.040 --> 0:59:49.120 Us a native land pod polling firm, and I will 0:59:49.120 --> 0:59:50.280 ask a yes or no question. 0:59:50.400 --> 0:59:53.240 Andrew's like, well, it depends exactly. You do that all 0:59:53.400 --> 0:59:54.480 the time, Andrew. 0:59:54.960 --> 0:59:57.000 No, I just try to get clear on the questions. 0:59:57.040 --> 1:00:01.120 Okay, we owe you dinner if they debate rules, that's 1:00:00.920 --> 1:00:01.680 the rules. 1:00:02.960 --> 1:00:05.160 Yes, but I want two different dinners. 1:00:05.200 --> 1:00:09.000 That's fair, that's fair, Okay, okay, different for the price of. 1:00:11.240 --> 1:00:14.440 Around here. I'm cooking. I'm cooking the one that you're 1:00:14.480 --> 1:00:15.040 getting from me. 1:00:15.360 --> 1:00:18.080 No, no, no, no. 1:00:17.760 --> 1:00:19.000 You can't set conditions on that. 1:00:19.120 --> 1:00:19.920 What can you cook? 1:00:20.240 --> 1:00:22.720 I said, by the baby. 1:00:22.640 --> 1:00:23.920 You can't make no jambalaya? 1:00:24.880 --> 1:00:27.480 Can you make us? 1:00:29.000 --> 1:00:29.919 Well, you have to make. 1:00:31.480 --> 1:00:34.840 Okay, and then you got If they don't debate, then 1:00:34.880 --> 1:00:35.360 we got it. 1:00:35.400 --> 1:00:37.840 What do you make? 1:00:37.880 --> 1:00:39.959 Your chicken for jambalaya, Andrew. 1:00:40.720 --> 1:00:42.920 If it don't come with the Zaans, Oh. 1:00:42.760 --> 1:00:45.000 No, absolutely not. 1:00:45.160 --> 1:00:49.120 And you're just trying to run a Zan's commercial. They 1:00:49.320 --> 1:00:51.040 have some dollars, run us our money. 1:00:51.440 --> 1:00:53.640 It's sliding down the chair. 1:00:56.440 --> 1:00:59.120 I think it's got these calls to action? Do y'all 1:00:59.120 --> 1:00:59.760 have I want to go? 1:01:00.000 --> 1:01:03.360 I am too upset. Andrew just tried to say, making. 1:01:05.240 --> 1:01:07.320 Both of us, So Andrew, you go first. 1:01:07.040 --> 1:01:10.760 Me and Angelo for y'all talking about dead poor girl. 1:01:10.840 --> 1:01:20.480 Anyway, I'm looking for it. 1:01:20.880 --> 1:01:22.640 Where are you? 1:01:22.640 --> 1:01:22.880 Where? 1:01:23.000 --> 1:01:24.640 Do you haven't seen conditions changed? 1:01:24.640 --> 1:01:24.880 Maam? 1:01:25.160 --> 1:01:26.560 Do you have a CTA? Andrew? 1:01:27.440 --> 1:01:27.680 Yes? 1:01:27.800 --> 1:01:31.360 I want to just thank and congratulate my pastor, an 1:01:31.400 --> 1:01:34.440 amazing man. The man who, when I had to surrender 1:01:34.480 --> 1:01:37.720 myself to the government unjustly drove me there. The man 1:01:37.760 --> 1:01:40.200 who stayed with me, keeping his eyesight on those law 1:01:40.240 --> 1:01:43.360 enforcement offices the entire time. The man who showed up 1:01:43.400 --> 1:01:46.160 every single day to trial, even after he broke his foot, 1:01:46.360 --> 1:01:50.000 stumbled into the courthouse for me, prayed for me and 1:01:50.120 --> 1:01:51.840 us and my family Jay and on the kids. 1:01:52.360 --> 1:01:52.520 Uh. 1:01:52.600 --> 1:01:57.560 The man who baptized my my three children. Pastor now 1:01:57.680 --> 1:02:03.960 Bishop elect of the African Methodist Episcopal Church, good friend 1:02:04.240 --> 1:02:10.200 and great father, husband partner Reverend Julie S. Mcallisair his 1:02:10.280 --> 1:02:13.840 wife Dina McAllistair for their service. 1:02:15.000 --> 1:02:20.360 Young who worked with Angela at the Congressional Black Caucus 1:02:20.520 --> 1:02:23.960 and was at the White House both White. 1:02:23.920 --> 1:02:29.600 Campaign operative extraordinary on the trail now and baby. 1:02:29.080 --> 1:02:31.960 New baby, new baby's mama. She is new mom, so 1:02:32.040 --> 1:02:35.360 thanks congratulations to her sister and her brother in law 1:02:35.480 --> 1:02:36.760 and my pastor and friend. 1:02:36.880 --> 1:02:38.680 And the legacy of her father. 1:02:40.320 --> 1:02:40.600 Young. 1:02:40.760 --> 1:02:44.840 Yes, the church has a rich history too, and just 1:02:44.880 --> 1:02:47.960 the ready and all the things they've done. So I 1:02:48.360 --> 1:02:50.320 haven't met Bishop McAllister, but I would like to. 1:02:50.840 --> 1:02:52.200 Andrew is excellent man. 1:02:52.280 --> 1:02:53.919 When you come visit, we'll all go to church together. 1:02:53.960 --> 1:02:54.240 Okay. 1:02:54.280 --> 1:02:59.400 I love that. I love that calls to action. H 1:02:59.600 --> 1:03:01.760 y'all need listened as mini pod because I guess it's 1:03:01.760 --> 1:03:04.280 some stuff we need to get on going. I also 1:03:04.320 --> 1:03:09.080 want to tell y'all, if you can, please make sure 1:03:09.120 --> 1:03:12.840 you go back and listen to our episodes last week. 1:03:12.920 --> 1:03:17.400 I'm extraordinarily proud of them because of how much work 1:03:17.520 --> 1:03:20.360 we all put in to make sure that happened. Y'all 1:03:20.440 --> 1:03:25.040 don't understand we had never live streamed before as our podcast, 1:03:25.120 --> 1:03:29.160 and we had never done back to back episodes on 1:03:29.200 --> 1:03:32.560 a daily basis and during one of the most historic 1:03:32.600 --> 1:03:36.320 conventions ever, so it was it was a major undertaking. 1:03:36.480 --> 1:03:42.600 And I just again want to shout out our team, Lauren, Nick, Lolo, Chloe, 1:03:42.920 --> 1:03:47.400 like everybody ed helped to put the videography team together. 1:03:47.560 --> 1:03:50.800 I'm just so thrilled and so grateful. So thanks y'all again, 1:03:50.840 --> 1:03:55.840 and please make sure yes, yes for making sure that 1:03:55.880 --> 1:03:58.200 we could have a live stream on Monday. And then lastly, 1:03:58.240 --> 1:04:01.080 I would say when you go back and listen, check 1:04:01.120 --> 1:04:03.080 it out wherever you get your podcasts, but also on 1:04:03.160 --> 1:04:06.560 our YouTube channel, make sure that you're subscribing and checking 1:04:06.560 --> 1:04:08.160 those out as well. We're trying to make sure we 1:04:08.200 --> 1:04:10.280 grow both bases and make sure you're following all of 1:04:10.280 --> 1:04:14.080 our accounts on Instagram, on Twitter, on Facebook, We're at 1:04:14.120 --> 1:04:16.120 Native lamppod. Same thing for the. 1:04:16.440 --> 1:04:20.360 Hey Angela, Angela RJ told me that in the chats 1:04:20.440 --> 1:04:22.360 during the live is where it was at. She's like 1:04:23.000 --> 1:04:27.680 Watt lives, I would like to. 1:04:27.680 --> 1:04:30.880 See the comments. All right, I'll be always since I 1:04:30.880 --> 1:04:33.080 know we want to have mini pod. So this is 1:04:33.080 --> 1:04:35.800 a PSA. It's a CTA, but it's really a PSA, 1:04:35.880 --> 1:04:40.120 a public safety announcement announcement. I want to say, we 1:04:40.200 --> 1:04:43.320 show up on this podcast and we give it to 1:04:43.360 --> 1:04:46.080 you straight, no chaser, None of us are edited. This 1:04:46.200 --> 1:04:48.040 is live to take. We don't go back and listen 1:04:48.080 --> 1:04:49.560 and say, oh, can you take out this part? Like 1:04:49.600 --> 1:04:51.600 what you hear is what you get. These are conversations 1:04:51.600 --> 1:04:53.280 we'd be having whether the cameras are rolling or not. 1:04:54.080 --> 1:04:56.360 And we love you guys for taking an interest in 1:04:56.400 --> 1:04:59.800 what we do and showing up. The PSA is this. 1:05:00.280 --> 1:05:05.360 If you see us out publicly, we make a habit 1:05:05.480 --> 1:05:07.960 of this is your podcast too. If you disagree with 1:05:08.000 --> 1:05:11.160 something we say, put it on video, drop us a link. 1:05:11.440 --> 1:05:14.320 If you see us out publicly, I never mind saying hello, 1:05:14.560 --> 1:05:18.960 chatting with people, very social people, very Oh that's fine. 1:05:19.800 --> 1:05:24.880 For your safety. It is not the time to confront 1:05:24.960 --> 1:05:28.680 any of us in a negative way for your safety 1:05:29.320 --> 1:05:32.800 and for our safety, because if you're crazy enough to 1:05:33.000 --> 1:05:36.960 try to aggressively confront one, if we're together, you didn't 1:05:37.000 --> 1:05:40.800 just confront me, You now confronted Andrew and Angela and 1:05:40.880 --> 1:05:44.640 anyone else around us. And if I'm by myself, I 1:05:44.760 --> 1:05:47.360 have to assume if you're getting aggressive with me. I 1:05:47.360 --> 1:05:50.480 fear for my life and I'm gonna proceed accordingly. So 1:05:50.760 --> 1:05:56.040 my PSA is, please keep it respectful, Please keep tuning in. 1:05:56.400 --> 1:05:59.000 We all ride for the people, ride for the community. 1:05:59.080 --> 1:06:01.640 We love y'all. We welcome y'all home every week. We 1:06:01.680 --> 1:06:05.400 say that with intention, and we don't. We're not trying 1:06:05.400 --> 1:06:08.440 to tell you what to think, so we invite a 1:06:08.480 --> 1:06:12.800 healthy exchange of ideas and ideology and a collegial discourse. 1:06:13.360 --> 1:06:15.400 So if you want to hear the backstory to this, 1:06:15.680 --> 1:06:19.720 please tune into the mini pod that will drop on Monday. 1:06:19.800 --> 1:06:22.200 Minibibes drop every Monday. 1:06:22.960 --> 1:06:24.040 Do you see what I'm holding? 1:06:24.080 --> 1:06:24.360 Tips? 1:06:24.480 --> 1:06:24.720 Yes? 1:06:25.040 --> 1:06:28.760 Yes, yes, no, this is not this is the lily 1:06:28.800 --> 1:06:32.800 pad still because Tips this was tips Wet said. So 1:06:32.840 --> 1:06:36.080 if you feel in, because. 1:06:35.800 --> 1:06:38.560 I might lead back and hop you know how many 1:06:38.640 --> 1:06:40.240 days it is to the elections, so you can close 1:06:40.320 --> 1:06:41.080 us out because. 1:06:41.120 --> 1:06:43.440 D not enough, I think it was. 1:06:43.640 --> 1:06:46.640 Is this Synick? Just come on and tell us make 1:06:46.720 --> 1:06:50.600 your second debut. He was mad at us six sixty eight. 1:06:51.080 --> 1:06:54.480 I said that, all right, sixty eight days left until 1:06:54.520 --> 1:06:58.760 the election. Be sure, like Angela said, subscribe, leave a comment, 1:06:59.280 --> 1:07:01.640 follow us on all our platform sixty eight days to 1:07:01.680 --> 1:07:07.000 the election, A register to vote exactly. I am Simony 1:07:07.040 --> 1:07:10.920 and gros here with Andrew Gillom and Angela Right. 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