1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: Native Land Pod is the production of iHeartRadio in partnership 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: with Reason Choice Media. 3 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 2: Welcome Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. 4 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 3: Welcome, Welcome home, y'all. This is Robert from Columbia, South Carolina. 5 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,799 Speaker 3: I've been day one since the first podcast drop. Thank 6 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 3: y'all for your coverage at DNC. Thank you for the 7 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 3: lives that you did. They were highly entertaining, they were fun, 8 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 3: they were fresh, great interviews. Just love getting to see 9 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 3: y'all doing your thing in that setting. Didn't always get 10 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 3: to watch the whole thing, but I've listened to the 11 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 3: replays and they were fantastic. Thank you for bringing the 12 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 3: palace inting American on from Georgia to read her speech 13 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 3: and have a platform as large as y'all's, and for 14 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 3: also addressing that issue with several people that you brought 15 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 3: on your show. Thank you for putting a spotlight on 16 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 3: that issue. Thank you for holding nuance for that issue. 17 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 3: I am tired of people putting down protesters and other 18 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 3: people who are raising this issue and dismissing them as 19 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 3: Trump supporters or as people who who don't understand the stakes. 20 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 3: We understand the stakes. I'm gonna vote Harris Wallace I'm 21 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 3: gonna vote Democrat down ticket, but I also am gonna 22 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 3: hold the elected leaders empower to account to do the 23 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 3: right thing by the Palastining people, by all peoples around 24 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 3: the world who are being affected by violence, and especially 25 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 3: by violence from us. 26 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 4: So anyways, thank y'all. 27 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 5: Welcome home. 28 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: Welcome home, y'all. This is episode thirty seven of Native 29 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: Lampi where we give it to you straight note Chaser. 30 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: We are fresh off the DNC. I want to shout 31 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: out everybody who is tuning in with us every day. 32 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: We are your hosts. I'm Tiffany Cross here with my 33 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: co host Andrew Gillim and Angela Raie. 34 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 4: What's up, y'all, id you fresh off that summer heat 35 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 4: wave up there in the northeast or fresh on. 36 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: It's eight thousand degrees? But what I want to talk 37 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: about what they just heard at the top of the show, 38 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 1: and that was all the praise that we received from 39 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: from from so many of you guys who tuned in. 40 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 6: Welcome home Robert. That's all right. You know he was 41 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 6: busting stereotypes at at the top of the show. Tiff 42 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 6: he uh he. You know, we they tell us that 43 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 6: we only have black folks listening to this show and 44 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 6: that's not the case. 45 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: Well, we knew that shot. I didn't I know. 46 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 6: I just I was I'm busting the myth, the myth 47 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:41,679 Speaker 6: busting for everybody else. 48 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: Oh like I thought somebody was telling us we only 49 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: had black listers. 50 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 6: Well they say it's it's it is predominantly black. But 51 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 6: I like that we have, you know, representation here. The 52 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 6: Rainbow Coalition also reperenced South Carolina, which you may not 53 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 6: expect the white dude from South Carolina to say this, 54 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 6: So I just appreciate all around shout out to you. 55 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: I gotta say I would expect the white dudes from 56 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: South Carolina to say that. I think this whole myth 57 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: around the South being read, I always say it's only 58 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: read until it ain't. There are very progressive pockets of 59 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: the South, particularly in South Carolina, in North Carolina, in Alabama, 60 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: in Mississippi. All these places have people, a diverse coalition 61 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: of voters, and some of those people and are venn diagram. 62 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: We have a diverse coalition of listeners. So I'm really 63 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: not surprised when I hear, no matter what people look like, 64 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: when they have expressive thoughts. Having grown up in the South. 65 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: From the South, I want to say, there are always 66 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: people with progressive outlooks so happy to welcome home this day. 67 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 6: I can't wait till their numbers look like that, because 68 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 6: that's not how the Embers look better. 69 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: I'm going to get into that in the show because 70 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: I actually do think their numbers are growing, but there 71 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: are rampant voter suppression efforts happening. So probably a good 72 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: time in the show because we have I. 73 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 4: Was gonna say just some of the I want to 74 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 4: thank the brother one for being a listener obviously, but 75 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 4: Brady Day one, he's a OG and then feeling comfortable 76 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 4: and sending that video in I really appreciated that. But 77 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 4: I'll tell you the salutes have really been rounded Angela 78 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 4: and Tiffany. I was just at the African Methodist Episcopal 79 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 4: Conclave or convention with a bunch of ams y'all, and 80 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 4: and they have been praying for us. A lot of 81 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 4: listeners there. But I want to particularly shout out the 82 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 4: senior Bishop of the afric of African METHODOM in the 83 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 4: United States, Bishop A. J. Richardson, former pastor at the 84 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 4: church that I attend, and A Rattler and his wife 85 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 4: Connie richardson, who are avid listeners y'all? When they told 86 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,679 Speaker 4: me that, I said, I'm sorry for the cuss words, 87 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 4: and I got to say, I ain't gonna say who, 88 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 4: but one of these very religious figures says, sometimes it 89 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 4: takes some emphasis, so. 90 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: I wasn't happy to be excused. I speak it, I 91 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 1: walk it like I talk it, I speak it like 92 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: I mean. But I will tell you another A woman 93 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 1: said that to me that she listens in the car 94 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: with her kids, and I was like, you listen with 95 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: your kids in my body mouth? And she was like, 96 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 1: do you do you know high school kids nowadays? Do 97 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,239 Speaker 1: you know what they've listened to? Like you ain't saying nothing, 98 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: but anyway, she said that her kids will like come 99 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: back and tell her stuff that we said. So we 100 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: have a diverse co listen to listener. So we don't 101 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 1: want to keep y'all waiting anymore. Let's get into the show. Yeah, 102 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: we got a lot to get to, but I just 103 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: want to say we are rundown at the DNC was 104 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: fire a lot better than any other because I wasn't 105 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: really watching because we were on air. So when I 106 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: look back and saw all the other people I'm like, 107 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: this stuff is whack. So we said this on the 108 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: last show. I'll say it again because angel will always deflect. 109 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 1: But Angela was the one booking the show, texting people 110 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:57,799 Speaker 1: getting people to come by that. 111 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 6: It's literally it's literally not true. And I really want 112 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 6: to make sure that people understand how dope of a 113 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 6: team we have. I thank god that people think highly 114 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 6: enough of us that they want to come on the show. 115 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 6: But we had someone who was working NonStop around the 116 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 6: clock booking the show, and that is our research producer, Lolo, 117 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 6: So I want to make sure we give her the credit. 118 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 6: And Tiff, thank you for the guests that you added. Andrew, 119 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,799 Speaker 6: thanks for the guests that you added. It is my honor, 120 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 6: my pleasure, pleasure to work alongside y'all. But I did 121 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 6: not book the whole show. 122 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: Let me say thank you to Lolo, which we said 123 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: last week. I will say it again, but I'm going 124 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: to reiterate. Lolo could have been doing that for any show. 125 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 1: People responded and showed up because the relationship they have 126 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: with you when you work on Capitol Hill. Because the 127 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: guest they have relationships with us too. But you were 128 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: pressing people, Angela was rolling up on people on the floor, like, hey, 129 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: come do our show. So don't let Angela deflex. We 130 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: have she has, she had people supporting her, but she 131 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: was up early, up late, on the phone, all the time, 132 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: running around and people showed up because Angela told them 133 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: they had to. So thank you. And I know you 134 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: want to say everybody, we think everybody, but I just 135 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: think it's warrant to give you a shout out. And 136 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: the fact that our covers literally look better than everybody else. 137 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: Nobody else had our rundown. We had Kamala Harris's campaign 138 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: manager ten minutes before her speech. Nobody had that. And 139 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: Julie showed out because because you asked her too. 140 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 6: So you know, I do have one thing I'm mad about. 141 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 6: Can I tell y'all now we got to wait for 142 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 6: the mini pod? 143 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: Can we do a mini pot on the DNC and 144 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: all the I want to tell the dirty stories bts. 145 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 6: Let me tell this now because this is someone who 146 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 6: I hope is our president one day. Governor Wes Moore, 147 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 6: I'm mad at you. I am mad at you because 148 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 6: I don't understand how we all these people you literally 149 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 6: speak for a living, and you told us that you 150 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 6: couldn't be on our show for five minutes because you 151 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 6: was gonna be your speech. I don't understand, so I'm 152 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 6: a little tight about that. I love you deep, like 153 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 6: it's deep. I've known Dawn longer than you. I love 154 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 6: her deep. I want to see you when we come 155 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 6: to a live podcast, hopefully in Maryland, at your invitation. 156 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 6: That's what I want because I wanted to celebrate that 157 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 6: moment with you. It's not like a real mad but it's. 158 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 4: What is divine is divine. I think everything that transpired, 159 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 4: the guests that we had, the people who we were 160 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 4: able to introduce the listeners to in a more intimate way, 161 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 4: all of it was divine. I hate that he missed out. 162 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 5: I hate missed it too, but it was great. 163 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 6: Guys like to get my way, So I'm paled. A 164 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 6: little bit. 165 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: Happened, but we can talk about because there were there 166 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: were a lot of things that happened that we aren't 167 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: getting into. 168 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 6: It's true. 169 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 5: It sounds like the. 170 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: Talk mini potting were there were several incidents and well 171 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: we almost came to blows. So be sure tune into 172 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: the mini pod drop on Monday. We do a mini 173 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: pod on this show, so every Monday. You can get 174 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: the mini pod. But before we get into all of that, 175 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: you just gotta get the mini. 176 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 6: I gotta tell you this. If my dad said, my 177 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 6: dad says he talks about my mom, he's like, man, 178 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 6: Andrea talked to me like she's seven feet three hundred. 179 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 6: That's how you was absolutely. 180 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 5: Writing them checks. 181 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 4: She was writing. 182 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: She said, we were gonna cast checks. 183 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 4: Okay, that you think when you come in as the 184 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 4: second that you that you bringing things down to a 185 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 4: calm level. You might speak calmly. 186 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 6: You know what I'll never forget he said. He did 187 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 6: say that you make it worse. 188 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: And you heard what he said and what he forgot 189 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: to say. Angel By the time we do this mini pod, 190 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: Angela and I will be looking forward to the apology 191 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: you owe us, and. 192 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 4: We'll talk about why you believe that that's married before we. 193 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: Spend time on that. Andrew, what do you want what 194 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:58,959 Speaker 1: you got for us today? What do you want to 195 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: talk about today? 196 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 5: Man? 197 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 4: I want to do so a little bit about the DNC, 198 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 4: but not so much. A bunch of Republicans came out 199 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 4: this week, y'all, over two hundred former staffers to both 200 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 4: forty was it forty one and forty three. 201 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, the Bushes, the Bushes and McCain. It was President 202 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: Bush and form. 203 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:20,599 Speaker 4: And of course added to it by some former Trumpers 204 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 4: who have you know, thrown off the yoke. But also 205 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 4: there was this query and I've heard it even up 206 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 4: until this morning, folks who were saying, why are there 207 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 4: so many Republicans at the DNC, and you know, talking 208 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 4: and that kind of thing. And then of course where 209 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,439 Speaker 4: the president and Vice president to b are right now 210 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 4: in the state of George. 211 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 5: I want to talk about a. 212 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: Little bit of that cool and what'd you got for us? 213 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 1: I know what I want you to have for us, 214 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: but what you got for it? 215 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:48,559 Speaker 6: Oh lord? Well, I just want to talk briefly about 216 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 6: the National Federation that I'm now calling the National Confederation 217 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 6: of Republican Assemblies for challenging Kamala Harris being on the 218 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 6: ballot at all. And they cite the dread Sky decision. 219 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 6: So if for those of you miss it, that's circa 220 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 6: eighteen fifty seven. So we'll get into that for emancipation. 221 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I've heard you, but now I get it. 222 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: It's very clever what you said, confederation, you know, I thought, yeah, oh, yeah, 223 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: I thought you said confederation would cun with the teeth, 224 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:18,319 Speaker 1: But anyway, that's not what you said. 225 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 6: No, no, but yeah, maybe same principle, right, Like, why 226 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 6: are y'all trying to be the Confederacy? It's twenty twenty four? Yeah, 227 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 6: for sure, tall order for them, I know. And then 228 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 6: the worst part is National Federation of Republican Assemblies call 229 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 6: themselves Frederick Douglass Republicans. 230 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 4: Y'all knowing y'all, Yeah, how are you. 231 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 6: Going to cite the man who wrote what to the 232 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:40,719 Speaker 6: Slave is the fourth of July? And then cite the 233 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 6: dread Scott decision from why black women can't beyond the 234 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,439 Speaker 6: ballot in twenty four? Anyway, I'm into it already. 235 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 4: So this is why it is that her saying is 236 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 4: we ain't going back, right. 237 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: That's exactly why we need it. That's exactly why we 238 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 1: need it. Well, I want to get in all their 239 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: might the voter suppression happening across the country because we 240 00:11:57,840 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: all know that they are going to cheat, and so 241 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: I think this is not going to be an election 242 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: that's decided election day and we already see things happening. 243 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: There were some raids that took place in Texas that 244 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: I'll get into. But black voters and Latino voters are 245 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: clearly a big threat to the GOP. So I want 246 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: to get into that and talk about why. But before 247 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: we get into any of these topics, you know this 248 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: this well as you're listening to this podcast. If you 249 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: listen fresh off the Press is when we drop, then 250 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: you know that Vice President Harris and her running mate 251 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: Tim Wallas have agreed to sit down for their first 252 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: interview with CNN's Dana Bash. I have a lot of 253 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 1: thoughts about this, Andrew Angela, y'all, what'd y'all take on 254 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 1: this one? 255 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 4: I mean, I guess my issue isn't so much with 256 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 4: the who the person interviewer. Dana is a wonderful woman, good, 257 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 4: good person, whatnot. But I just thought, given the delay 258 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 4: and I was behind them on like, hey, take as 259 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 4: long as you need. When you decide is when you 260 00:12:56,240 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 4: decide that maybe what they were fomenting was a I 261 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 4: don't know, a new way of doing this. I was expecting, 262 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 4: probably because everything up to this point has just been 263 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 4: so different. I mean, in truth, she has just bought 264 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 4: such an incredible energy to the race for presidency. The 265 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 4: campaign has shifted in so many ways and walls just 266 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 4: adding to it new layers and new flavor. I don't know, 267 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 4: maybe they're credentialing of these sort of what do you 268 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 4: call these viral hosts that they did for the Democratic 269 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 4: Convention where they brought in people were not necessarily political, 270 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 4: but were viral in their nature, that maybe that might 271 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 4: send a tone that they were going to try a 272 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 4: different medium for this. They went to a more traditional medium, 273 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 4: and at that one that is just an apologies because 274 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 4: I've worked for them at one point in time, just 275 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 4: quite frankly, isn't getting the ratings, Yeah, don't. I don't 276 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 4: understand that choice. 277 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 6: I you know, I got to say, I am thinking that, 278 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 6: given the truncated nature of this campaign, that they would 279 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 6: go somewhere where there is it's not a political show, 280 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 6: it's not a political network, it's not a political host. 281 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 6: It's someone who can really humanize them and reintroduce them 282 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 6: to all the folks who or introduce them to all 283 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 6: the folks who weren't watching the DNC. So even like GMA, 284 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 6: you know, even the Today Show, like even maybe going 285 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 6: there some walk and talk moments, Kamala cooking, because that's 286 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 6: one of her favorite things to do, Tim Walls. Maybe not. 287 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 6: Maybe he's not coaching anymore, but maybe he's on the 288 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 6: football field with some of his old players, like really 289 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 6: going into their regular, everyday lives and providing people with 290 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 6: that insight that we talk about all the time on 291 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 6: our podcast, where people are listening to our conversation, look 292 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 6: at how they move about in life, follow them on 293 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 6: the plane, like like literally what I just I don't understand. 294 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 4: If there's no reason why they can't can't do what 295 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 4: you just described, Angela and ask serious questions. 296 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 6: No, of course, but I'm also suggest the other thing 297 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 6: that I would have suggested to them, again given the 298 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 6: truncated nature of the schedule, is is having a televised 299 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 6: penn and pad so you have folks from multiple outlets 300 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 6: asking them questions. They could still do it together and 301 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 6: then that way that thing is broadcast multi platform. Yeah, 302 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 6: at the same time, it's big enough. And I would 303 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 6: have done that probably the Friday after the convention. And 304 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 6: I don't think that's too late, but I really I 305 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 6: think that that is. And it's again, it's not about Dana, 306 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 6: it's about CNN, it's about all of it. People are 307 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 6: not tuning in there where can you reach people where 308 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 6: you know they or no, only wouldn't be Tim Walls 309 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 6: could go do an ESPN interview because of his sports background, 310 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 6: you know what I mean. Like, there's so many different 311 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 6: ways they could have They could have played this. 312 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: Anyway, you know. I don't think an ESPN interview would 313 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: have been appropriate for their first rollout, and I anticipate 314 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: that he will do that show. I also don't know 315 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: about the right exactly. We hope who knows, but I don't. 316 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if like the walk and talk and 317 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: the cooking is necessarily the image they want to put 318 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: out at this point. Yet either I wouldn't have been 319 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: mad at that. I mean, I can see. I'm just 320 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: trying to think of their perspective, and then I'm also 321 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: trying to think of as a producer, like the amount 322 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: of time and production that would take. And I think 323 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: they probably want to do this as a quick turnaround, 324 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: just so our viewers. No a pinning pad. If something 325 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: happens on the hill a lot to me, that's like 326 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: the most popular place where it happens is a bunch 327 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: of journalists sit around and ask questions. You can have 328 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: a print outlet, you can have producers there. It's something 329 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: where talent doesn't necessarily show up. But that's a really 330 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: great idea because I've had well, not regularly, like Joy 331 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: isn't typically going like this, Cash isn't typically going. 332 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 6: But yeah, that's why I thought it would be different. 333 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 6: You know, like you literally bring everybody together almost like 334 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 6: a summit, or like you think about the White House 335 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 6: Press briefing room, but they're just sitting right, I'm just 336 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 6: explaining it to your point. Tip to the listeners, guy, 337 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 6: set a pin and pad with no content. Yeah, so 338 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 6: we're in the White House Press briefing room where everybody's sitting. 339 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 6: Instead of it being that room, have like a big 340 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 6: round table where Kamala and Tim Walls are also sitting. 341 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it could be that. Yeah, and I've never really 342 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 1: I don't recall or it's not a regular thing to 343 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: see something like that televised. So I love the idea. 344 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: Like Buck though trends, you know, like everything has gone out. 345 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 1: I know you guys like Dana Bash. I worked with 346 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: Dana over twenty five years ago. So Danna used to 347 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 1: be a producer before she was an on air talent. 348 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: And I remember on nine to eleven I was a 349 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 1: young associate producer in the newsroom and I had to 350 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: run and get her tapes at the Monocle on Capitol Hill. 351 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: This is back when she was a producer. So this 352 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,360 Speaker 1: is nothing personal. I think Dana does what she knows 353 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 1: how to do, and so often that is the ancestuous 354 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: Beltway media. They're talking to each other, for each other, 355 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:37,880 Speaker 1: about each other. They're looking to get, you know, those 356 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: gotcha questions, that sound bite to make some news, and 357 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,679 Speaker 1: that is not necessarily what the American people need. That's 358 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:45,640 Speaker 1: what the Beltway press needs. It's not what the American 359 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: people need. I think she asked the questions to her 360 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: narrow lived experience, and so for example, when she was 361 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 1: interviewing Jade Vance, which I thought, quite frankly noticed to 362 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: her was not a great interview, and she asked his 363 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:00,439 Speaker 1: opinion on whether he thought Vice President Harris was or not, 364 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: who gives a shit with this man thinks about her race? 365 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: I thought that was a completely inappropriate question. I thought 366 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: the question is self trafficked in racism. She allowed jd 367 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 1: Vance to talk about Walls's military service without any follow up, 368 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: without confronting him about things that Donald Trump has said 369 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:23,239 Speaker 1: about those who served in the military without confronting him 370 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 1: about Donald Trump's own lack of military service. So I 371 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: just don't know that you know any like I could 372 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 1: certainly do the interview and ask the kind of questions 373 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: that Dana would ask, But I'm also like most of 374 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: us have had to be ambidexterous enough that I could 375 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: ask her about issues that are relevant to the black community. 376 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 1: I can ask her about issues relevant to the Latino community, 377 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: to the Asian American Pacific Islander community, to indigenous communities, 378 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: the places where these races will be one on the margins, 379 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: And I just think that she tends to center whiteness 380 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: in a way that may not be intentional, but it's 381 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: very much what happens, and it's not her. When you 382 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: do have a presidential interview at a network, everyone is involved. 383 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 1: The head of the DC Burrel is involved, the president 384 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 1: of the network is involved, all your producers, Congressional Hill like, 385 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 1: it's huge rooms of people weighing in on these I've 386 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: been in those rooms weighing in on these types of elections. 387 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: So it's a lot of different perspectives that I think 388 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: are missed, which is why it's so important to have 389 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: people of color, not just on air, but behind the camera. Andrew, 390 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: I know you want to weigh in. We're coming up 391 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: against the heartbreak. You bring us back on the other side, 392 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: and we'll pick it up from there. Got to pay 393 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: some bill, y'all. We'll be right back. 394 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 5: Indeed, welcome back, y'all. 395 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 4: We're just talking about this interview, the first interview that 396 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 4: Vice President Harris and Governor Wallas will be conducting with CNN. 397 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 4: And I, I mean, I was just going to say, 398 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 4: to the extent that your experiences and I take you 399 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 4: at your word around your assessment of what it was 400 00:19:56,200 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 4: like working with Dana, I actually think that what you 401 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 4: said there is actually being parroted by nearly every journalist 402 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 4: that I see on television. This, I mean lesser Holt 403 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 4: disappointed me when he interviewed Biden and said, you know, 404 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,439 Speaker 4: try to equalize what he had been saying on the 405 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 4: trail to the violence being promoted. 406 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 6: By Donald Trump. 407 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 4: There was just no space for that to take place. 408 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 4: Except they're all doing this out of what I believe 409 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 4: is a knee jerk reaction to criticism that the right 410 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 4: is going to wield their direction any way it comes. 411 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 4: It doesn't matter who does the interview, that the right 412 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 4: is going to be disappointed by it and they're going 413 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 4: to create some sort of side show. So that being said, 414 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 4: I just felt like, and I think this is consistent 415 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 4: with I don't know that the patent pen would have 416 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 4: been my recommendation only because it's it might look like 417 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 4: chaos to the viewer if it's that, and I'm sure 418 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 4: they probably don't want that to be the image as well, 419 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 4: but something innovative. This was a moment I think for innovation, 420 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,360 Speaker 4: and if there was a ticket that could have delivered innovation, 421 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 4: I think the way that they have curated so far, 422 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 4: their introduction to their can people as presidential and vice 423 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 4: presidential candidate candidates has been quite frankly superb. This looks 424 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 4: like a little bit of a sort of standing place 425 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 4: turn and I don't think we have time for standing 426 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 4: in place. Every day has to be momentum building movement, 427 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 4: and I don't know that this does it. But guess what, 428 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 4: I trusted them up to this point and they have overperformed. 429 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 4: Maybe there's enough a performance coming on this one. 430 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: I mean, the candidate's not the interviewer. 431 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 4: The candidates that is, of course, they gotta have. 432 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 6: They gotta have a kitchen cabinet that's larger than normal 433 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 6: because they got to cover more ground than normal, though, 434 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 6: and I just think they cannot. I don't know when 435 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 6: the next interview is. It should be a slew of them, 436 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 6: and I think they could be. We're not gonna sit down. 437 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 6: Y'all got to catch us on the trail, right, like 438 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 6: they got to do a lot of stuff in one movement. 439 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 6: While you're on the trail, you recording those ads. While 440 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 6: you're recording those ads, you get growing your base. While 441 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 6: you grow in your base, you shaking hands with Sarrogen's 442 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,239 Speaker 6: making sure that they got their marchin orders. Why are 443 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 6: you doing that? You want to call Andrew just like 444 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 6: you used to have a press briefing, call messaging car 445 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 6: every morning, like you just got to do everything it wants. 446 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 1: Angela, what do you want to hear from them? If 447 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 1: you can give them one piece of advice, Like, here's 448 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,120 Speaker 1: the thing I want you to hit home in this interview. 449 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 6: I want them to not run away from truth. I 450 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 6: think that Democratic candidates have a way of hedging that 451 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 6: they can't afford to do in this election season. I 452 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:28,360 Speaker 6: think that our candidates get focused on trying to please 453 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 6: folks on polar opposite sides, and you just have to 454 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 6: talk about nuance. You have to talk about the gray. 455 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 6: You have to say, hey, you know, this is something 456 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 6: whether it's you know, what's happening in Palestine, this is 457 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 6: something I'm wrestling with. I've heard the story of this 458 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 6: person that person, and have shed real tears. This is difficult. 459 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 6: We're gonna need all hands on deck. These are the 460 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,199 Speaker 6: kinds of things that I want to see happen so 461 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 6: we can reach a ceasefire. Like just being honest with 462 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 6: folks and not starting with hey first before I say 463 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 6: anything else. Israel has a right to defend itself. We know, 464 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,719 Speaker 6: Oh that's right, Like you know what I mean? Like 465 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 6: not those typical cookie cutter talking points. I think that 466 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 6: would make me the most happy and excited about their 467 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 6: ability to grow their base, because they need to rest 468 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 6: in truth and feel very good about speaking truth and 469 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 6: being clear when they don't know, but they know they 470 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 6: need to get there. 471 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,439 Speaker 1: I have to say, Andrew, I the specific thing that 472 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 1: I want them to talk about. Obviously, domestic policy is 473 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: a huge deal. Inflation is still hidding. You know, the 474 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: kitchen table and those kitchen table topics are hugely important, 475 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: so presumably that I do want to hear her response, 476 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: specifically on Iran and the urseoning challenges we're having with 477 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: some of our foreign adversaries. My reasoning is, I would 478 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:50,120 Speaker 1: like for this country to normalize what it to have 479 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,439 Speaker 1: a woman as commander in chief, to normalize what it 480 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: might look like to have a woman during wartime presidents. 481 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: Considering what Donald Trump has said about our armed forces 482 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 1: and people who choose to serve, I think this is 483 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: a time where she can say, not only does she 484 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: have an intellectual command on what's happening across the globe 485 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: in US positioning as it relates to that, but she's 486 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 1: also prepared to lead this country to defend itself when 487 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 1: and wherever necessary. So I hope that Dana asked her, 488 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 1: you know, how she would be prepared to respond should 489 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: Iran cross a line, and how she might be prepared 490 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: to deal with a nuclear armed Iran, which is a 491 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: huge deal and something that we are facing. 492 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 4: No, you're you're absolutely right on that. In fact, if 493 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 4: y'all remember doing this speech when she got to International 494 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 4: affairs in the might of the US of the baddest 495 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 4: fighting force in the land, right. I almost thought she 496 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,640 Speaker 4: had voice training. If you notice she went from sort 497 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 4: of a you know, what I felt like is going 498 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 4: from a tenor into a baritone, and her voice sort 499 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 4: of got a little bit lower. She was in complete 500 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 4: awareness and I think control of how she was being 501 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 4: curated to the American people very directly. 502 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 5: Right. 503 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 4: You think about curating as a third person delivering something. 504 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 4: I think she had that third person in her head, 505 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 4: as in, what do I need to make sure you 506 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,919 Speaker 4: feel from me in this moment? And what I felt 507 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 4: was strength, determination, and a woman who would be unquivering 508 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 4: and making the decision when the time to make a 509 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,439 Speaker 4: decision would come. And what I hope she does in 510 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 4: this interview with both her intent is that they avoid 511 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 4: getting caught in the trappings of these particulars that I 512 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 4: think are going to be thrown out as most Beltway 513 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,360 Speaker 4: journalists are going to do well when back in such 514 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 4: and such and such there was this vote, and then 515 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 4: there was this, and there was that, and unless it's 516 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 4: a really big important sort of back and forth that's 517 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 4: being had, meaning what is being to discussed is consequential. 518 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 4: Where you stand on women's rights, where you stand on 519 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 4: you know, big tax issues. I hope they avoid those 520 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 4: traps and keep this thing, yes specific to where specificity 521 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 4: is need, but that they keep it grand enough that 522 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:06,439 Speaker 4: it doesn't lose the average viewing public's attention. And I 523 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 4: think those particulars have a way of counting a lot 524 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 4: of people out of it. They're like, I don't know 525 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 4: what that bill was, and I don't know what it's about, 526 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 4: and I really can't follow it. If it goes there, 527 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 4: I think it loses public interest, and what we need 528 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 4: here is maximum public viewership. 529 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 6: You know, one thing that I was going to flag 530 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 6: for y'all really quick that I'm concerned about is I 531 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 6: don't want this As much as it is a continuation 532 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 6: of the ticket that folks voted for in the primary, 533 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 6: it's also an opening for a new opportunity and a 534 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 6: new chapter for democracy. So I really am hoping that 535 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 6: there's not a lot of time spent on well, we 536 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 6: already did that, Well, this administration did that. Well, listen, 537 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 6: you know what I mean, Like, I hope that there's 538 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 6: a way to say, well, we started here, but here's 539 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,719 Speaker 6: where we want to go the nature. Yes, that's what 540 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 6: I'm really really hoping for too. 541 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's sort of you even did a better 542 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 4: job about like voted than what I was trying to 543 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 4: say in the trappings, which is always tying you to 544 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 4: the past. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. If they 545 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,719 Speaker 4: tied Donald Trump and this other dude to the past, 546 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 4: they'd be stuck there. There'd be no time for the future. 547 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 4: But Kamala has not been in the chief executive position 548 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 4: yet as president, and as we can see with her 549 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 4: campaigning for president, you become a different person when you 550 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 4: are the person who is ultimately accountable. She fully possesses that. 551 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,479 Speaker 4: I have felt it all the while since she's been 552 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 4: the nominee, and I just keep that command, keep it big. 553 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 4: And as Angela points out, take us to the future. 554 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:29,880 Speaker 4: Where are we going? 555 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 5: Where we headed? 556 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 1: I want to correct myself on something if we can 557 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,919 Speaker 1: shift topics, because Andrew, when I first when you were 558 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: talking about the Republicans that signed to endorse her again, 559 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:44,919 Speaker 1: I think some of what she says in this interview 560 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: will be directed to them. And this is what I 561 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: was bringing up last week. As the Democratic Party grows, 562 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 1: the coalition and grows the tent, I think we have 563 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: to be steadfast and pay attention and make sure that 564 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: the policies continue to serve the people who were always 565 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 1: with the Democratic Party, largely black and brown folks. So 566 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,439 Speaker 1: I'm paying keen attention to the messages that they deliver. 567 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 1: But we were talking about the two hundred Republicans who 568 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: endorse Vice President Harris this week, and I said it 569 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: was Bush and John McCain. I'm gonna correct myself. It 570 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 1: was John McCain and Romney, people who had previously worked 571 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 1: for them in their own campaign staff. Yeah, but it 572 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: was like McCain's former chief of staff. 573 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, so that coalition was larger than than previous presidents. 574 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you, I know you wanted to talk about that. 575 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 4: Well just that, I mean, I think this was an 576 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 4: interesting point because you all mentioned it, you know, as 577 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 4: the sides as we were on the dayas doing our show, 578 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 4: like why something, you got room for this Republican but 579 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 4: you don't have room for this message a critical part 580 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 4: of our base. And I completely we were all in 581 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 4: agreement as it relates to to that, and I'm glad 582 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 4: we were able to create create create space for that 583 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 4: message to be delivered. But but the politics of elections 584 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 4: is about the math of elections is about addition, and 585 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 4: I think what they had to do in that convention 586 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 4: and what they've got to do going forward is add 587 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 4: to what they've already got, what's baked in, what is expected, 588 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 4: what we know we can deliver. They've got to add 589 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 4: to it because by ourselves alone, we haven't shown the 590 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 4: history of being able to take us fully all the 591 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 4: way there. Obama required bringing folks into the fold who 592 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 4: were not previously there. What I appreciate about folks coming 593 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 4: into the fold now, and particularly the Republicans who have 594 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,239 Speaker 4: been targeted, is that they're not there because of her 595 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 4: tax policy. They are there because of her position necessarily 596 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 4: on immigration. They're not there because of her previous voting records. 597 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 4: Many of what we heard from many of them on 598 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 4: the stage, and what we have continued to hear from 599 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 4: the Conservatives who are backed he is like, this is 600 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 4: a moment of country over party, that this dude is 601 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 4: so out of whack with what is what is bedrock 602 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 4: American principles. That's what one not abandoning allies, that is 603 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 4: not surrendering our position on the global stage, that is 604 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 4: not decreasing from a global leadership role, but rather stepping 605 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 4: up in a global leadership role. I think those are 606 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 4: the areas in which Republicans are finding common cause with 607 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 4: the Harris Walls ticket. Not on I think the issues 608 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 4: that are going to bring us enjoyment and happiness, and 609 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 4: I think that those bedrock principles. I have not heard 610 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 4: an equivocation from her or Walls on those yet, and 611 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 4: in this interview we will hopefully hear more on the positions. 612 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 4: But if I see that we're starting to surrender where 613 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 4: we stand on the John Lewis voting rack, where we 614 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 4: stand on regulation of many industries in this country that 615 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 4: are underregularly, you know where we are on guns. 616 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 5: If I see. 617 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 4: Surrender in that, then we got issues. And I think 618 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 4: she would have issues across the board from from our 619 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 4: coalition that that put them there, But I haven't seen 620 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 4: that yet. I think the common cause is basically like 621 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 4: this guy is a threat to global order and that's 622 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 4: what's bringing a lot of these Republicans along, Not that 623 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 4: they agree with us on our on our on our 624 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 4: fundamental position democrats. 625 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 6: Can I just say, though, I you know, I was 626 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 6: sitting here thinking while you were talking the injury the thing. 627 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 4: About no I was. 628 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 6: Because I was like you know the thing that that 629 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 6: was that was bothering me last week, and now I 630 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 6: can kind of put words to it about the number 631 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 6: of them who were on the d n C stage 632 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 6: while space wasn't made for issues that a lot of 633 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,719 Speaker 6: us really care about. Is you know what during George 634 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 6: Floyd when all of our white friends were calling us crying, 635 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 6: asking what they could do, what books they could read 636 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 6: if we wanted to take over their Instagram? Remember yeah, 637 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 6: I remember, yeah, So follow me here. Should they be 638 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,239 Speaker 6: talking on the d n C stage or do they 639 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 6: need to go talk to their friends Republicans? Like, but 640 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 6: this is my thing, Like maybe some space should have 641 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 6: been made for never trumpers on the r n C stage. 642 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 6: Maybe some space should. 643 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 1: Be made for for never trumpers on h on op 644 00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: ed pages, editorial pages. 645 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 6: Maybe they should got a ad, Maybe they can contribute 646 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 6: to the Lincoln Project. Maybe they could do something where 647 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 6: they go talk to their friends, Like, I don't need 648 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 6: to know why you're supporting the right thing because it's 649 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 6: the right thing to do. Like to me, this isn't 650 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 6: even about to your point, Andrew, it is not about politics. 651 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 6: It is country over a party. Well, then go talk 652 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 6: to your fellow countrymen. Talk to the National Confederacy of 653 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 6: Republican assemblies. Go talk to the Confederates, please and convince them, please, like, 654 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 6: go and surrogate there god spaces in the Red States 655 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 6: where Tiff said is changing, where it hasn't quite changed yet. 656 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 6: Please go talk to them. 657 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 4: But Angela, I'm the stage that had these were just 658 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 4: democrats watching. This was the stage that you had the 659 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 4: diversity of America trying to see what their choices were. 660 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 4: I would like for some of them they needed they need. 661 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 4: That's like me watching, I could not, honestly, I could 662 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 4: not envision right now where I it a condition under 663 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 4: which I would vote for a Republican president right And 664 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 4: for many of these Republicans, they could not fathom a 665 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 4: condition under which they would. 666 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 6: Be voluused about that. I want them to go grow 667 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 6: that base. 668 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 4: They're doing that, Angela, No, I don't see. 669 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 6: I don't think they're doing that by speaking on the 670 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 6: d NC stage. I think that some of the things 671 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 6: they've done since then are helpful. And I'm just I 672 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 6: would love to see the numbers of folks who were watching, Like, 673 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 6: for example, Fox News ran DNC coverage. Where were those 674 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 6: folks on those Fox News panels as. 675 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 4: They gotta be invited right about. 676 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 6: They can go and be Trojan horses. Go be like 677 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 6: I got something to say about Donald Trump, y'all. I 678 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 6: want to hear and then shift. 679 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 4: I'd agree with you, Angela if the only stage that 680 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 4: they were letting their voices be heard were on ours, 681 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 4: But that isn't true. The op ed that got the 682 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 4: mayor from Arizona on the stage came out before the DNC. 683 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 4: He was letting his voice. He heard with McCain former employees, 684 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 4: and where he lives, where he is mayor, is sitting 685 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 4: elected official. He was doing that where he sits and 686 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 4: talking to his people. 687 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 6: I think there's something about you that enjoys it and 688 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 6: I and I think that's fine. I just wanted to 689 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 6: be effective, Like can you enjoy and be effective? I 690 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 6: just think I need to be Yeah. 691 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 4: I think I want to win. I want a Democrat. 692 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 1: We want to be right back at Katie, which is 693 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,760 Speaker 1: before Andrew, let me just say after week quickly Andrew, 694 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,879 Speaker 1: before you. Yeah, we got to it. But I got 695 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 1: a comment in a question and the question bringing us 696 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 1: bringing up this this National Confederation. I want to hear 697 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 1: what that's about. And I got something on this, but 698 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: we gotta pay some bills, so we'll be right back 699 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: on the other back. 700 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 7: Hey Native Lympod, my name is Ryan. I'm coming to 701 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 7: you from Idaho. Yes, there are black people in Idaho 702 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 7: doing the Lord's work. Anyway, I have a question, a 703 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 7: couple questions. The first one is probably more for Andrew. 704 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 7: I would love to hear your thoughts on the potential 705 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 7: of Florida becoming a swing state and actually being taken 706 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 7: by the Harris Walls ticket. I'm also Texas I feel 707 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 7: like might be in play as the potential swing state 708 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 7: as well. I'd just love to hear your insights about that, 709 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 7: especially with the momentum that has been happening in both 710 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 7: of those states for the Democratic Party, and what it 711 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,360 Speaker 7: would take for the DNC to take in some extra 712 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 7: funding to ensure that that could actually happen. My next 713 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,359 Speaker 7: question is I think you may have covered a part 714 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:45,880 Speaker 7: of this, but I would love to hear your thoughts 715 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,359 Speaker 7: about what the DNC is doing to prepare for the 716 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 7: onslaught of election deniers that are in place and offices 717 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 7: all over the country. What do you think the DNC 718 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 7: should do to make sure that the election can function 719 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 7: and run as smoothly as possible. Thanks you guys. 720 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 6: Wow, Ryan, thank you so much. Andrew. I do want 721 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 6: to hear your answer about the. 722 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 4: Circle back on it really go yeah, because I want 723 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 4: to hear your thoughts first. I'd love to No, I 724 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 4: want you to talk. 725 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 6: A first about the Florida swing state thing because I 726 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 6: got something to say. 727 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 4: I mean, I have scar tissue on Florida. 728 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:22,399 Speaker 3: Right. 729 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 4: I ran in a state where Republicans were in control 730 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 4: of the elections laws, in every system of governance in 731 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,400 Speaker 4: our state for twenty plus years. We got the closest 732 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 4: point three percent different out of eight million voters having 733 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 4: gone out and cast their vote. And you know, whatever happened, 734 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 4: I didn't get sworn in as governor of the state 735 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 4: of Florida, right, So everything notwithstanding that didn't occur. But 736 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 4: I will tell you, you know, we just had elections 737 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 4: this past Tuesday while we were up at the DNC, 738 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 4: and Democrats flipped a number of seats over fifty seats 739 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,359 Speaker 4: from local jurisdictions all the way up to state legislative 740 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 4: level seats from our hands to d hands, particularly on 741 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 4: these school boards where they were running these conservative candidates. 742 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,439 Speaker 4: Ron de Santa's Han picked a whole bunch of them, 743 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 4: and many of them went down in defeat at the 744 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,399 Speaker 4: hands of Democrats. So I think the signs of pointing 745 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 4: in the right direction. I think we are a state 746 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,359 Speaker 4: that is going to require more than election year investments. 747 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,880 Speaker 4: We need investments year round, three sixty five, year in 748 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,360 Speaker 4: and year out in order to come back. Because guess what, y'all, 749 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,839 Speaker 4: if we even turn out the requisite number of votes 750 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 4: that we need, we got to have enough in the 751 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 4: bank to then get over all the disenfranchisement, all the 752 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,399 Speaker 4: invalidating the votes that they're going to do, whatever court 753 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 4: cases they are going to take before the judges that 754 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,840 Speaker 4: they have appointed. So the system's got to be almost 755 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:51,240 Speaker 4: bigger than the voters themselves, just because of the system 756 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 4: of disenfranchisement that exists in this state. So I love 757 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,840 Speaker 4: to share the optimism of my brother in Idaho, and 758 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 4: I do have optimism, and I'm so thankful to our 759 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,959 Speaker 4: chair here in the state of Florida and Nikki Freed. 760 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:06,319 Speaker 4: But we should compete, absolutely, and if we do the 761 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 4: work right and we put some you know, some goldies 762 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 4: in the pocket, we might pull this thing through. But 763 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 4: anything that gets us closer is a good thing in 764 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 4: this state, and I think the same is probably true 765 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,319 Speaker 4: in the state of Texas. But they're coming at us 766 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 4: with everything, and I know you've got the example from 767 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,840 Speaker 4: Texas that just makes the point even clear. It's a 768 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 4: repeat of exactly what Ron DeSantis did right here in 769 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 4: the state of Florida, using law enforcement to suppress people's 770 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 4: abilities to the. 771 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,279 Speaker 6: Ballot before we get there. As I know Tip has 772 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 6: something there. I want to just say, Andrew, the reason 773 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,480 Speaker 6: why I wanted to come to you first, I know 774 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 6: that it's painful, is because there is no better political operative, 775 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:49,360 Speaker 6: former elected official, former candidate for the Harris Walls campaign 776 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,719 Speaker 6: to talk to than you. The reason for it is 777 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,920 Speaker 6: not only was it within reach, had they counted all 778 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,279 Speaker 6: the ballots, it was won, so they got to talk 779 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,879 Speaker 6: to you. There's no other person they need to talk 780 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 6: to more. That's all I really want to say about. 781 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,840 Speaker 4: Just say they haven't had if they put the muscle 782 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,360 Speaker 4: strength that they did in the If they do what 783 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:13,120 Speaker 4: they did, and that second cycle where Chris was at 784 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 4: the top and Deming's ran statewide, we had a twenty 785 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:21,400 Speaker 4: point loss, twenty point difference, And my point is y'all 786 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,840 Speaker 4: do what you won't, but we had a record I 787 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,759 Speaker 4: think a pathway to victory. That's right, and it's one 788 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,760 Speaker 4: that we have to implement every single year period. 789 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 6: So please make sure. Here's while y'all call Andrew gillim 790 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 6: because this is really important. Like I'm not saying he 791 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,360 Speaker 6: got a layer anybody, but he definitely needs to be 792 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 6: consulting y'all. It is for your own best interest. And 793 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 6: if you want to win the United States of America, 794 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 6: you might want to talk to Florida too. We just 795 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,359 Speaker 6: can't turn into turn our back on any state. TIF 796 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 6: speaking of turning our backs on states or states turning 797 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,840 Speaker 6: their backs on us. I feel like you got something 798 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 6: to say about Texas. I want, but I'm gonna talk 799 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 6: about Texas. I'm not talking to me A better transition aout. 800 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,160 Speaker 1: Do you know why I want to hear about dread 801 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,759 Speaker 1: Scott Because did y'all see The Princess Brian when y'all 802 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,440 Speaker 1: were young. I used to love that movie, but they 803 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,520 Speaker 1: used to call it was a scary pirate in there, 804 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,839 Speaker 1: and they called them the dread pirate Scott. So every 805 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 1: time you say that, I think it a dread pirate 806 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:25,759 Speaker 1: Scott anyway, but I'll talk about Texas. Yes, So here's 807 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,719 Speaker 1: my thing, and I think we're kind of all talking 808 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,840 Speaker 1: about similar things. The go ok is going to cheat 809 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,120 Speaker 1: that the more people who show up and vote, the 810 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 1: less likely they are to win elections. So they have 811 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:42,320 Speaker 1: historically always engaged in voter suppression all across the country. 812 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 1: It was not just the Bible Belt, it wasn't just 813 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 1: in the South. Voter suppression has taken place all across 814 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:50,759 Speaker 1: the country. When they struck down the Voter Rights and 815 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:55,320 Speaker 1: Shelby be Holder, which struck down Section two of the 816 00:40:55,400 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 1: Voting which essentially said that states or states with a 817 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 1: history of voter suppression had to get federal permission before 818 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:06,879 Speaker 1: making any changes. That has now gone away and we're 819 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:12,520 Speaker 1: seeing the impact of that. LULAC, this is the League 820 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 1: of United Latin American Citizens, have filed a lawsuit against 821 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 1: Ken Paxton. Ken Paxton is the attorney general out of 822 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 1: the state of Texas. He is a Trump minion, a 823 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 1: Trump appointee, a Trump acolyte. You can look at this 824 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,400 Speaker 1: guy's history. He was one of the outspoken Tea Party 825 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:34,759 Speaker 1: members in Congress. When he shifted to local to state 826 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 1: politics in Texas. He's an outspoken opponent of any access 827 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,440 Speaker 1: to abortion rights. He's an outspoken opponent to LGBTQ rights. 828 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:46,320 Speaker 1: His policies are racist and xenophobic and heartless. This man 829 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,880 Speaker 1: has been wreaking havoc on the Latino communities in Texas. 830 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,000 Speaker 1: Let me tell you why. An estimated thirty six point 831 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,960 Speaker 1: two million Latinos are eligible to vote this year alone. 832 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,319 Speaker 1: That's up from thirty two million thirty two point three 833 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,360 Speaker 1: million in two twenty twenty. That's a four million increase. 834 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 1: Latino voters have eclipsed Black voters in the largest community 835 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:10,399 Speaker 1: of color eligible to vote, eligible, not registered, eligible to vote. 836 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 1: That's important. Every year about one point four million Latinos 837 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:18,920 Speaker 1: become eligible to vote in the United States. Majority of 838 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,440 Speaker 1: Latino voters voted for the Biden Hairs ticket in twenty twenty. 839 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:27,719 Speaker 1: That's all according to Pew Research. So the Latino community 840 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,799 Speaker 1: is projected to account for fourteen point seven percent of 841 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 1: all eligible voters in November. I want you to take 842 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,680 Speaker 1: a listen to eighty seven year old Lydia Martinez, who 843 00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 1: lives in San Antonio. She's been a LULAC member for 844 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,759 Speaker 1: over thirty five years and she works to expand voter 845 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 1: registration among seniors and veterans in South Texas. Let me 846 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:53,719 Speaker 1: let you hear from her what Ken Paxton's regime put 847 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,919 Speaker 1: her through in her home. Take a listen, I said, 848 00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:57,960 Speaker 1: let me get dressed. 849 00:42:58,120 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 6: It's just a quad site. 850 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 5: Where were you wearing? 851 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:05,440 Speaker 8: My night gun? And I had all these policemen around me. 852 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 8: It was embarrassing, humiliating. I was so angry, it was horrible. 853 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:19,360 Speaker 1: So after bursting into this woman's home, Ken Paxson's regime, 854 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 1: basically this is voter intimidation. This is a troubling history 855 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,520 Speaker 1: of voter suppression that has always existed in the United States, 856 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:32,040 Speaker 1: but particularly in states like Texas where demographic changes have 857 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:37,880 Speaker 1: shifted the political wins there, and Paxson's office has announced 858 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,600 Speaker 1: that they are launching undercover operations. I want to remind 859 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 1: everyone Texas is an open cary state. This is, according 860 00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:50,400 Speaker 1: to him, investigations because alleging some organizations are unlawfully registering 861 00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,279 Speaker 1: non citizens to vote. Non citizens. Now imagine if you're 862 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,719 Speaker 1: here undocumented, You're trying to say, off everybody's radar, are 863 00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,120 Speaker 1: you going to risk being deported by showing up to vote? 864 00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:03,000 Speaker 1: The allegation is sol Is Acid nine. So I wanted 865 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:07,399 Speaker 1: to raise this because the only people who win when 866 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:11,799 Speaker 1: we beef are them. Latino voters are facing voter suppression, 867 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,400 Speaker 1: not just in Texas, Andrew and your neck of the woods, 868 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,600 Speaker 1: in Florida and everywhere else in the country. Black voters 869 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,960 Speaker 1: in Georgia and everywhere else in the country are facing 870 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,399 Speaker 1: these type of voter suppression tactics. We have to be 871 00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,279 Speaker 1: aware of them, we have to stay ahead of them. 872 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,680 Speaker 1: And this is how they're trying to cheat before the election. 873 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:35,360 Speaker 1: I can't imagine what they're going to do after the election. Angela. 874 00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:39,279 Speaker 1: I think this leads us up to that. I think 875 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,359 Speaker 1: this fight could land in the courts. I don't see 876 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,280 Speaker 1: I hope I'm wrong. I hope we win this election 877 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,600 Speaker 1: in a decisive way where it's not even worth going 878 00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,320 Speaker 1: to the courts. But if it's one on the margins, 879 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,880 Speaker 1: I do not anticipate that we will have a decisive 880 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,279 Speaker 1: victory that night. I do not anticipate that Donald Trump 881 00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,439 Speaker 1: will concede to a peaceful transition of power. I don't 882 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:03,160 Speaker 1: anticipate his supporters will accept election results they don't like. 883 00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:06,759 Speaker 1: And we're already seeing some of that now with these 884 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:07,760 Speaker 1: groups like the NFRA. 885 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,160 Speaker 6: You know, the thing that I want to say too, 886 00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,760 Speaker 6: Tiff is with Ms Martinez. I'm so sorry. My parents 887 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,840 Speaker 6: are in their eighties and I just can't imagine my 888 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,440 Speaker 6: parents or their friends doing this kind of work and 889 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:24,280 Speaker 6: being subjected to this type of treatment. This woman talks 890 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:28,280 Speaker 6: about nine officers showing up at her home with weapons 891 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:32,880 Speaker 6: drawn and questioning her for over three hours. Manuel Medina, 892 00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,880 Speaker 6: who's also a LULAC member, said his home was raided 893 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,279 Speaker 6: and they broke his door down. And this is for 894 00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:42,840 Speaker 6: alleged voter fraud that they continue to make up. We've 895 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,560 Speaker 6: talked about it for a long time, voter suppression in 896 00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:49,839 Speaker 6: their alleged solutions that they've introduced bills over and over again, 897 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,800 Speaker 6: hundreds of bills over the last several years since President 898 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:56,200 Speaker 6: Obama was elected. It is a solution in search of 899 00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,400 Speaker 6: a problem. That was the common way that this was 900 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,160 Speaker 6: referred to. It's the way we still need to refer 901 00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:05,520 Speaker 6: to it if they don't win it talking about suppression 902 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,440 Speaker 6: and voter fraud because it just doesn't stick. The election 903 00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:12,160 Speaker 6: deniers are the places where they're going to go next. 904 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:15,280 Speaker 6: And I want to just say, because we're in Texas. 905 00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:16,920 Speaker 6: I just looked it up because and this is to 906 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,920 Speaker 6: draw the bridge. I think further that tiff was creating 907 00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:23,680 Speaker 6: we're beefing with each other. Crystal Mason, who we had 908 00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:25,839 Speaker 6: on the stage with us at Essence, is on the 909 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:29,840 Speaker 6: other side of this black woman who was released, she 910 00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:34,080 Speaker 6: was incarcerated, formerly incarcerated, comes out votes in an election 911 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,080 Speaker 6: with the provisional ballot, as we talked about on the 912 00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,319 Speaker 6: essence stage. Well, guess what just last week while we 913 00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,920 Speaker 6: were at the DNC, we know that she was fighting 914 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:46,560 Speaker 6: and facing a five year sentence after casting that provisional ballot, 915 00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:50,200 Speaker 6: courts overturned it. Well, this da from Trek County comes 916 00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,400 Speaker 6: back and says, you know what, I really think the 917 00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,319 Speaker 6: court needs to take a second look look at this. 918 00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:56,920 Speaker 6: So if they asked the Court of Criminal Appeals to 919 00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:00,000 Speaker 6: reverse the decision, the court is now reviewing that case. 920 00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:03,040 Speaker 6: That's just six days ago. So Texas is covering the 921 00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,960 Speaker 6: board on voter fraud. That is the main issue that 922 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,640 Speaker 6: we're facing. I think that we have to understand that 923 00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:12,360 Speaker 6: they're willing to stop at no lengths. So this superseding indictment. 924 00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,640 Speaker 6: The Jack Smith has come out with saying, you know, 925 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:18,600 Speaker 6: what the court rule one way on presidential immunity. Now 926 00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,440 Speaker 6: we need to take a look at this. He's consulted 927 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,200 Speaker 6: with everyone at DOJ, saying this is actually a case. 928 00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,120 Speaker 6: We're looking at it, and it is because if we 929 00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,320 Speaker 6: continue to turn a blind eye, not we, but they 930 00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:32,560 Speaker 6: continue to turn a blind eye to January sixth and 931 00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,040 Speaker 6: all of the election deniers that showed up to the 932 00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:38,800 Speaker 6: United States Capital, we're going to be facing a real problem. 933 00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:40,759 Speaker 6: I think we need to get some data pulled on 934 00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,920 Speaker 6: how many people have been elected on these commissions, these boards, 935 00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:49,279 Speaker 6: these governor appointed boards, looking at what they're putting in 936 00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,120 Speaker 6: place to deny the election results. If they're not rules, 937 00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:53,120 Speaker 6: if they don't go in there and. 938 00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,600 Speaker 1: Their budgets before you go to dress stock, well, we 939 00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:57,440 Speaker 1: got to take a break before she goes to dresscott. 940 00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,680 Speaker 6: But now that I was, I just. 941 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,759 Speaker 4: Wanted to make a comment prior before we end it 942 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,600 Speaker 4: on this on what you just discussed. So I guess 943 00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:07,160 Speaker 4: we'll do it after we pay it. 944 00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:08,640 Speaker 1: Make you point and take us to break. 945 00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:14,080 Speaker 4: Not only did Trump commission and panel a commission to 946 00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,840 Speaker 4: look at voter fraud which came up with absolutely nothing. 947 00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,120 Speaker 4: Democrat didn't didn't pandel it Trump and paneled it. They 948 00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,120 Speaker 4: came up with nothing as relates to voter fraud. I 949 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,920 Speaker 4: just got to say, in Texas, Miss Lydia Rodriguez, obvious, 950 00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:30,719 Speaker 4: Crystal Masons Martinez. I'm sorry Crystal Mason's example. While they 951 00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,680 Speaker 4: may be the individuals whose names we call, this is 952 00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:37,200 Speaker 4: a shot over the bow to every Latino voter and 953 00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,399 Speaker 4: every black voter in the state of Texas to say 954 00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,400 Speaker 4: that you are not wanted. And when we see a 955 00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,279 Speaker 4: not wanted sign, when people step and stand in the 956 00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:50,120 Speaker 4: doorway of progress, Hello South, when they stay in the 957 00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,720 Speaker 4: door where we we go through a window, we figure 958 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,120 Speaker 4: a way to go in and have our impact. However, 959 00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:57,840 Speaker 4: we have to make it happen. I just want to 960 00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:01,320 Speaker 4: make sure that their attacks on us, y'all don't land. 961 00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,600 Speaker 4: There are going to be these efforts that go after individuals. 962 00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,480 Speaker 4: They are going to attempt to prosecute us. They are 963 00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:10,320 Speaker 4: going to attempt to malign us and call us everything 964 00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,359 Speaker 4: but a child of God. And if we let them win, 965 00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,240 Speaker 4: winning for them is going to be every individual citizen 966 00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:19,480 Speaker 4: who is eligible to vote making the decision that they 967 00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,520 Speaker 4: are not going to vote because they don't want to 968 00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,080 Speaker 4: deal with that drama. I understand you're not wanting to 969 00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,640 Speaker 4: deal with it, but their strategy isn't to get miss Lydia. 970 00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,800 Speaker 4: Their strategy is not just to get Crystal by herself. 971 00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:35,319 Speaker 4: The strategy is to keep the rest of us from 972 00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:39,719 Speaker 4: daring to exercise our rights because of if we do, 973 00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,839 Speaker 4: these are the consequences that await us, and that would 974 00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:44,960 Speaker 4: be a win for them. We cannot allow them to 975 00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,960 Speaker 4: have the courts. We will get that back in balance 976 00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:51,879 Speaker 4: at some point, but this that's going down right now, 977 00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:55,120 Speaker 4: and it's going to be repeated from here until election 978 00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:58,120 Speaker 4: day and beyond. We cannot let them win, y'all, because 979 00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,239 Speaker 4: their goal is to keep us in time, imitated, silenced 980 00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,719 Speaker 4: in our corner, and not voting. That's how they win. 981 00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,200 Speaker 4: So I just wanted to just say that bring this 982 00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:09,320 Speaker 4: to the point that it ain't about these individual stories alone, y'all. 983 00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:12,240 Speaker 4: This is this is a strategy that they have deployed. 984 00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,680 Speaker 4: They know it, they invented it. It's worked so many 985 00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,839 Speaker 4: times before, but not this day, not today, Not this day. 986 00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,640 Speaker 1: Somebody called that stupid eight hundred number they had for 987 00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:25,880 Speaker 1: voter fraud that Trump enacted, and everybody they started getting 988 00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,480 Speaker 1: pranks like everybody started calling and somebody said, Hi, I 989 00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,720 Speaker 1: just want you to know I voted in off fifty states. 990 00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:37,400 Speaker 1: It's so stupid anyway, all right, exactly, yeah, minute. 991 00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:38,399 Speaker 6: Mark, we're gonna hit this brake. 992 00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,360 Speaker 5: Wellcome, welcome, Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome. 993 00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:53,400 Speaker 6: Okay, So well, we've teased it this entire show, and 994 00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,399 Speaker 6: it was not by design. We kept want to get 995 00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,120 Speaker 6: to it. But this feels like the best place near 996 00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:00,400 Speaker 6: the end of the show to talk about something that 997 00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,279 Speaker 6: has sounded like near the end of time. So the 998 00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:07,600 Speaker 6: National Federation of Republican Assemblies, I've been calling them the Confederation. 999 00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:12,600 Speaker 6: They call themselves Frederick Douglas Republicans. God only knows why, 1000 00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:16,359 Speaker 6: because they're using something from a night or Sorry at 1001 00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:20,920 Speaker 6: eighteen fifty seven Supreme Court decision against dred Scott, where 1002 00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:24,040 Speaker 6: the Supreme Court ruled that the Constitution didn't apply to 1003 00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:27,239 Speaker 6: dred Scott because he wasn't a United States citizen and 1004 00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:31,920 Speaker 6: therefore he had to remain enslaved. Well, this National Federation 1005 00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:35,880 Speaker 6: of Republican Assemblies has decided that that ruling should apply 1006 00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:40,360 Speaker 6: to Kamala Harris and she should not be qualified to 1007 00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:43,520 Speaker 6: run for the United States presidency. Now here's the problem. 1008 00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,960 Speaker 6: We've talked about the birtherism movement for a long time. 1009 00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,120 Speaker 6: We know that Donald Trump was one of the chief 1010 00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,840 Speaker 6: architects of it when Barack Obama ran. And here the 1011 00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:56,319 Speaker 6: NFRA is coming around to try to run that thing back. 1012 00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,200 Speaker 6: And they did just do it to Kamala Harris. They 1013 00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,160 Speaker 6: also did it to some folks on their side named 1014 00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:05,200 Speaker 6: Nikki Haley and Vivek Ramaswami. So there's that. Now here's 1015 00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,360 Speaker 6: the little history lesson I just have for y'all, and 1016 00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,799 Speaker 6: I love for y'all to weigh in. There are two 1017 00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:15,080 Speaker 6: things that makes this completely irrelevant. One is, and Andrew, 1018 00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:16,399 Speaker 6: I knew you were going to get to this too. 1019 00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:20,040 Speaker 6: There was the thirteenth, the fourteenth and fifteenth Amendment, all 1020 00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:24,759 Speaker 6: ratified between eighteen sixty five and eighteen sixty nine reconstruction. 1021 00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:28,480 Speaker 6: How about that that would make it so that what 1022 00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:30,920 Speaker 6: they're talking about from this dread Scott decision is no 1023 00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,759 Speaker 6: longer applicable. And then there was an eighteen ninety eight 1024 00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:38,239 Speaker 6: Supreme Court case US versus won kim Arc, which was 1025 00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:41,360 Speaker 6: about whether or not the Chinese Exclusion Act applied to 1026 00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:45,080 Speaker 6: this particular citizen. They made it very clear in that 1027 00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:48,080 Speaker 6: court case as well, who what natural born citizen was 1028 00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:52,320 Speaker 6: and the child had to be born here. Kamala Harris's 1029 00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,520 Speaker 6: parents became United States citizens later. I don't even want 1030 00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:57,080 Speaker 6: to get into this because I'm tired of this. We 1031 00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,640 Speaker 6: shouldn't still be talking about it. It is so dumb. But 1032 00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:01,840 Speaker 6: I just want to make sure y'all understand from the 1033 00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:06,480 Speaker 6: National Confederacy of the Republicans assemblies y'all on that bush. 1034 00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, but also there's the little thing that happened in 1035 00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:13,640 Speaker 1: eighteen sixty one. I mean this happened. This ruling was 1036 00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:17,600 Speaker 1: eighteen fifty seven. This is before the Civil War of 1037 00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:21,000 Speaker 1: eighteen sixty one. Yes, So this is literally it's like 1038 00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:25,520 Speaker 1: you're going against America. Like it would literally be like 1039 00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:29,279 Speaker 1: pushing a policy that that Russia introduced in America. This 1040 00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,520 Speaker 1: was not an American thing. So every time you see 1041 00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:35,279 Speaker 1: people flagging these conservative flags and wearing this, it's like 1042 00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:39,080 Speaker 1: those people fought against what are now the United States. 1043 00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:42,560 Speaker 1: They were looking to secede from the Union. So it's 1044 00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:47,880 Speaker 1: bizarre that they're pulling, well, the America that exists today. 1045 00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:52,760 Speaker 1: It's very anti American from those But I'm talking logic, 1046 00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:54,160 Speaker 1: so I don't know if that's all. 1047 00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:54,719 Speaker 8: All that. 1048 00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:02,120 Speaker 6: Logic. What are they talking because. 1049 00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:04,560 Speaker 4: I think they're talking strict constructionism, right, think they call 1050 00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:08,320 Speaker 4: themselves strict constructionists. They stick to the letter of the Constitution. 1051 00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,560 Speaker 4: But obviously, if you're going to subscribe to the system 1052 00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:15,640 Speaker 4: of governance in the United States of America, decisions that 1053 00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:19,280 Speaker 4: are decided by the United States Supreme Court can be 1054 00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:23,680 Speaker 4: overturned by future courts. And that's exactly what Angela pointed 1055 00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:26,560 Speaker 4: out while dread Scott. We may have been property, you 1056 00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:29,720 Speaker 4: fast forward that thing a little bit. We're no longer property. 1057 00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:34,000 Speaker 4: We're human, we're people us unless they maintain that we're 1058 00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,959 Speaker 4: still property right, and if that's the case, then you'd 1059 00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:40,239 Speaker 4: have to delegitimize a whole set of progress that's taking 1060 00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:42,720 Speaker 4: place since that point at the hands of black foes. 1061 00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:45,480 Speaker 4: So it's just it doesn't make any sense. I just 1062 00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:49,080 Speaker 4: wish that they were in some ways, some ways fidel 1063 00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:50,880 Speaker 4: to what it is that they say they stand for. 1064 00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:52,719 Speaker 4: If you stand for the Constitution of the United States 1065 00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:56,279 Speaker 4: and the laws therein appertaining to its citizens, then you 1066 00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:59,319 Speaker 4: know that a court, when a court comes down on 1067 00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:02,120 Speaker 4: a decision that becomes the order of the day in 1068 00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,919 Speaker 4: alignment with the Constitution and the laws up until such 1069 00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:08,200 Speaker 4: point as they are changed. Well, they were changed through 1070 00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:11,560 Speaker 4: a war, through a Supreme Court, through a presidency, and 1071 00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:14,160 Speaker 4: a whole legacy of progress that's taken place ever since. 1072 00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:19,279 Speaker 4: These folks, these honestly, Angela, I think they are trolling us. 1073 00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,240 Speaker 4: Excuse my language. I just left the AMI convention. Anyway, 1074 00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:24,960 Speaker 4: I think that they are trolling us because if they 1075 00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:28,000 Speaker 4: were serious, they would follow a lawsuit. And I need 1076 00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:29,640 Speaker 4: to be careful what I'm asking for, as you have 1077 00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:35,680 Speaker 4: already won. The Supreme Court is backwards to But I 1078 00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:39,120 Speaker 4: cannot imagine just as I couldn't imagine us declaring a 1079 00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:42,319 Speaker 4: king in twenty twenty four, I couldn't imagine a real 1080 00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,480 Speaker 4: legitimate court saying, oh, Dred Scott still snids legitimate. 1081 00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:47,719 Speaker 6: And that's the thing. I think that what the reason 1082 00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:49,640 Speaker 6: why I wanted to talk about this is not to 1083 00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:53,080 Speaker 6: give it teeth, But just like we talked about the 1084 00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:57,319 Speaker 6: voter fraud, the alleged voter fraud attacks, the raids, these 1085 00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,320 Speaker 6: are things that I never thought we would see in 1086 00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:03,440 Speaker 6: our lifetime, y'all. These are the things that our grandparents witness, 1087 00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:06,840 Speaker 6: our parents on the tailent witness. Why are we witnessing 1088 00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,279 Speaker 6: it again? I'm bringing this this It's not a case, 1089 00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:12,040 Speaker 6: it's a resolution they introduced, but I'm bringing it up 1090 00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:14,759 Speaker 6: as a flag because they could try to take this 1091 00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:17,719 Speaker 6: to the court and I don't trust the Supreme Court 1092 00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:18,720 Speaker 6: of the United States. 1093 00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:22,200 Speaker 1: And that sounds crazy, but I don't trust it. And 1094 00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:23,799 Speaker 1: so Andrew was like, why don't they just too? 1095 00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:24,920 Speaker 6: I'm like, why don't we not? 1096 00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:27,759 Speaker 1: And it doesn't sound crazy that you don't trust them 1097 00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,879 Speaker 1: to me? Can I ask you guys a question before 1098 00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:33,359 Speaker 1: we get to tult action. I just want to hear 1099 00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:35,759 Speaker 1: from y' all on this before we gotta go. Do 1100 00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:40,080 Speaker 1: we think a debate between Kamala Harris, Vice President Kamala 1101 00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:41,720 Speaker 1: Harris and Donald Trump is going to happen? 1102 00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:43,480 Speaker 6: Yes? 1103 00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:44,440 Speaker 1: You say yes? 1104 00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:45,759 Speaker 6: Yes? 1105 00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:46,400 Speaker 4: Andrew? 1106 00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:47,080 Speaker 1: What you say. 1107 00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:52,160 Speaker 4: Was he frozen if his team decides his only Yeah? 1108 00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:52,239 Speaker 6: No. 1109 00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,600 Speaker 4: I was thinking about it because I want to say no, 1110 00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:58,520 Speaker 4: because I think this guy ultimately is intimidated by her 1111 00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:00,680 Speaker 4: the fact that she has stepped on the other side 1112 00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:01,520 Speaker 4: of this mute button. 1113 00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:01,759 Speaker 3: Right. 1114 00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:05,000 Speaker 4: If y'all remember it was Trump's team that did not 1115 00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:08,000 Speaker 4: want those Mike Madet when he was dividing Baden by Biden. 1116 00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:11,760 Speaker 4: Biden stood firm that he wanted his team did because 1117 00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:14,600 Speaker 4: he did not want to have what happened with with 1118 00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:18,040 Speaker 4: UH with Clinton, where he's over talking her and over speaking. 1119 00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:19,720 Speaker 4: So it was a it was a way to keep 1120 00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:23,720 Speaker 4: him safe. Well, guess what Comlin got them safety concerns. 1121 00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:26,680 Speaker 4: She feels like if if, if you, if you feel 1122 00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:29,200 Speaker 4: in froggy, jump and see what's on the other side 1123 00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:31,640 Speaker 4: of the landing, because she trusts her instincts and she 1124 00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:35,760 Speaker 4: trusts her ability to handle him. I trust her ability 1125 00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:39,760 Speaker 4: to fully handle that dude body him. But but but 1126 00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:42,760 Speaker 4: his team is now saying, okay, mute button must stay 1127 00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:45,640 Speaker 4: in place because they don't trust that their candidate is 1128 00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:47,520 Speaker 4: safe in her hands. 1129 00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:48,600 Speaker 5: And they're right to. 1130 00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:52,680 Speaker 6: Conclude that that looks like lily pad. So if you're 1131 00:57:52,680 --> 00:58:00,440 Speaker 6: feel in frogly feeling frog, if you're feeling frog and 1132 00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:01,800 Speaker 6: leaf on this lily. 1133 00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:03,880 Speaker 1: We should have been wearing those T shirts at the DNC. 1134 00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:07,400 Speaker 4: I'm just saying, I feel Angela will body them body 1135 00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:10,000 Speaker 4: him too, So it doesn't you know either way either way, 1136 00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:13,200 Speaker 4: they don't trust it. So my instincts say he doesn't 1137 00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:18,240 Speaker 4: want a condition under which he's he is handled by her. Yeah, 1138 00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:21,160 Speaker 4: and I don't understand. I don't really believe that that 1139 00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:22,800 Speaker 4: she would pull out of a debate. 1140 00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:26,040 Speaker 1: But if anybody back out, he's going to back out. 1141 00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:26,760 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1142 00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:28,560 Speaker 4: So so, so can we talk about this? 1143 00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,000 Speaker 1: I want to get into it. I'm not doing this 1144 00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:33,800 Speaker 1: caricature that Angela wants to do. But we got a plan. 1145 00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:35,520 Speaker 6: Oh my god, that was never the plan. 1146 00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:38,080 Speaker 1: Man, We got a plan now though, right, James, g 1147 00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:40,400 Speaker 1: our friend, James, are we gonna do Are we gonna 1148 00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:42,080 Speaker 1: do that next week? Yeah? We want to do it 1149 00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:42,520 Speaker 1: next week. 1150 00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:44,200 Speaker 4: Wait, you didn't tell us whether or not you thought 1151 00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:46,400 Speaker 4: he voting? I mean, is he going to debate? 1152 00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:46,840 Speaker 1: Oh? 1153 00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:46,960 Speaker 5: You? 1154 00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:47,200 Speaker 6: Oh? 1155 00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:47,800 Speaker 1: Do I think? 1156 00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:48,000 Speaker 5: Oh? 1157 00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:50,720 Speaker 1: I so, I say no. I do not think these 1158 00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:52,440 Speaker 1: two will come together in the debate stage, as much 1159 00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:54,320 Speaker 1: as I would like them to. I say he's gonna 1160 00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:56,520 Speaker 1: find some reason to pull out. I hope I'm wrong. 1161 00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:59,080 Speaker 6: If there how much money are we betting on this? 1162 00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:03,480 Speaker 6: Twenty dollars got five five on it? 1163 00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:04,680 Speaker 1: No dinner? 1164 00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,120 Speaker 6: Okay, dinner, okay, dinner. 1165 00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:12,040 Speaker 1: So if they okay, okay, if they if they debate, 1166 00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:15,280 Speaker 1: Andrew and Tiff are buying me dinner? Yes? 1167 00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:17,400 Speaker 6: Both the y'all are on that side. I'm gonna win. 1168 00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:18,240 Speaker 6: I'm ready. 1169 00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:19,200 Speaker 4: I said, I was up the middle. 1170 00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:22,480 Speaker 6: No, you can't be in the You always trying to 1171 00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:22,680 Speaker 6: do it. 1172 00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:25,160 Speaker 5: I'm never in the middle. 1173 00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:25,880 Speaker 6: Andrew. 1174 00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:29,480 Speaker 1: You are trying to most debate or not. You said no, 1175 00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:36,080 Speaker 1: what so Andrew? You trying to play both yes, but 1176 00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,320 Speaker 1: tell him he does it. I do not try to 1177 00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:41,040 Speaker 1: Katie carry. 1178 00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,120 Speaker 4: Not being entertained. That's not both. 1179 00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:49,120 Speaker 1: Us a native land pod polling firm, and I will 1180 00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:50,280 Speaker 1: ask a yes or no question. 1181 00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:53,240 Speaker 6: Andrew's like, well, it depends exactly. You do that all 1182 00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:54,480 Speaker 6: the time, Andrew. 1183 00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:57,000 Speaker 4: No, I just try to get clear on the questions. 1184 00:59:57,040 --> 01:00:01,120 Speaker 1: Okay, we owe you dinner if they debate rules, that's 1185 01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:01,680 Speaker 1: the rules. 1186 01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,160 Speaker 6: Yes, but I want two different dinners. 1187 01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:09,000 Speaker 1: That's fair, that's fair, Okay, okay, different for the price of. 1188 01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:14,440 Speaker 4: Around here. I'm cooking. I'm cooking the one that you're 1189 01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:15,040 Speaker 4: getting from me. 1190 01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:18,080 Speaker 6: No, no, no, no. 1191 01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:19,000 Speaker 4: You can't set conditions on that. 1192 01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:19,920 Speaker 6: What can you cook? 1193 01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:22,720 Speaker 4: I said, by the baby. 1194 01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:23,920 Speaker 6: You can't make no jambalaya? 1195 01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:27,480 Speaker 1: Can you make us? 1196 01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:29,919 Speaker 6: Well, you have to make. 1197 01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:34,840 Speaker 1: Okay, and then you got If they don't debate, then 1198 01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:35,360 Speaker 1: we got it. 1199 01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:37,840 Speaker 4: What do you make? 1200 01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:39,959 Speaker 6: Your chicken for jambalaya, Andrew. 1201 01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:42,920 Speaker 4: If it don't come with the Zaans, Oh. 1202 01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:45,000 Speaker 6: No, absolutely not. 1203 01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:49,120 Speaker 1: And you're just trying to run a Zan's commercial. They 1204 01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:51,040 Speaker 1: have some dollars, run us our money. 1205 01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:53,640 Speaker 6: It's sliding down the chair. 1206 01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:59,120 Speaker 1: I think it's got these calls to action? Do y'all 1207 01:00:59,120 --> 01:00:59,760 Speaker 1: have I want to go? 1208 01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:03,360 Speaker 6: I am too upset. Andrew just tried to say, making. 1209 01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:07,320 Speaker 1: Both of us, So Andrew, you go first. 1210 01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:10,760 Speaker 4: Me and Angelo for y'all talking about dead poor girl. 1211 01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:20,480 Speaker 1: Anyway, I'm looking for it. 1212 01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:22,640 Speaker 6: Where are you? 1213 01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:22,880 Speaker 3: Where? 1214 01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:24,640 Speaker 4: Do you haven't seen conditions changed? 1215 01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:24,880 Speaker 5: Maam? 1216 01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:26,560 Speaker 1: Do you have a CTA? Andrew? 1217 01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:27,680 Speaker 5: Yes? 1218 01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:31,360 Speaker 4: I want to just thank and congratulate my pastor, an 1219 01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,440 Speaker 4: amazing man. The man who, when I had to surrender 1220 01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:37,720 Speaker 4: myself to the government unjustly drove me there. The man 1221 01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:40,200 Speaker 4: who stayed with me, keeping his eyesight on those law 1222 01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:43,360 Speaker 4: enforcement offices the entire time. The man who showed up 1223 01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:46,160 Speaker 4: every single day to trial, even after he broke his foot, 1224 01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:50,000 Speaker 4: stumbled into the courthouse for me, prayed for me and 1225 01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:51,840 Speaker 4: us and my family Jay and on the kids. 1226 01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:52,520 Speaker 5: Uh. 1227 01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:57,560 Speaker 4: The man who baptized my my three children. Pastor now 1228 01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:03,960 Speaker 4: Bishop elect of the African Methodist Episcopal Church, good friend 1229 01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:10,200 Speaker 4: and great father, husband partner Reverend Julie S. Mcallisair his 1230 01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:13,840 Speaker 4: wife Dina McAllistair for their service. 1231 01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:20,360 Speaker 1: Young who worked with Angela at the Congressional Black Caucus 1232 01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:23,960 Speaker 1: and was at the White House both White. 1233 01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:29,600 Speaker 6: Campaign operative extraordinary on the trail now and baby. 1234 01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:31,960 Speaker 4: New baby, new baby's mama. She is new mom, so 1235 01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:35,360 Speaker 4: thanks congratulations to her sister and her brother in law 1236 01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:36,760 Speaker 4: and my pastor and friend. 1237 01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:38,680 Speaker 6: And the legacy of her father. 1238 01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:40,600 Speaker 5: Young. 1239 01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:44,840 Speaker 1: Yes, the church has a rich history too, and just 1240 01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:47,960 Speaker 1: the ready and all the things they've done. So I 1241 01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:50,320 Speaker 1: haven't met Bishop McAllister, but I would like to. 1242 01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:52,200 Speaker 4: Andrew is excellent man. 1243 01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:53,919 Speaker 5: When you come visit, we'll all go to church together. 1244 01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:54,240 Speaker 1: Okay. 1245 01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:59,400 Speaker 6: I love that. I love that calls to action. H 1246 01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:01,760 Speaker 6: y'all need listened as mini pod because I guess it's 1247 01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:04,280 Speaker 6: some stuff we need to get on going. I also 1248 01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:09,080 Speaker 6: want to tell y'all, if you can, please make sure 1249 01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:12,840 Speaker 6: you go back and listen to our episodes last week. 1250 01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:17,400 Speaker 6: I'm extraordinarily proud of them because of how much work 1251 01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:20,360 Speaker 6: we all put in to make sure that happened. Y'all 1252 01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:25,040 Speaker 6: don't understand we had never live streamed before as our podcast, 1253 01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:29,160 Speaker 6: and we had never done back to back episodes on 1254 01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:32,560 Speaker 6: a daily basis and during one of the most historic 1255 01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:36,320 Speaker 6: conventions ever, so it was it was a major undertaking. 1256 01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:42,600 Speaker 6: And I just again want to shout out our team, Lauren, Nick, Lolo, Chloe, 1257 01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:47,400 Speaker 6: like everybody ed helped to put the videography team together. 1258 01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:50,800 Speaker 6: I'm just so thrilled and so grateful. So thanks y'all again, 1259 01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:55,840 Speaker 6: and please make sure yes, yes for making sure that 1260 01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:58,200 Speaker 6: we could have a live stream on Monday. And then lastly, 1261 01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:01,080 Speaker 6: I would say when you go back and listen, check 1262 01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:03,080 Speaker 6: it out wherever you get your podcasts, but also on 1263 01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:06,560 Speaker 6: our YouTube channel, make sure that you're subscribing and checking 1264 01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:08,160 Speaker 6: those out as well. We're trying to make sure we 1265 01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:10,280 Speaker 6: grow both bases and make sure you're following all of 1266 01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:14,080 Speaker 6: our accounts on Instagram, on Twitter, on Facebook, We're at 1267 01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:16,120 Speaker 6: Native lamppod. Same thing for the. 1268 01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:20,360 Speaker 4: Hey Angela, Angela RJ told me that in the chats 1269 01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:22,360 Speaker 4: during the live is where it was at. She's like 1270 01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:27,680 Speaker 4: Watt lives, I would like to. 1271 01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:30,880 Speaker 1: See the comments. All right, I'll be always since I 1272 01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:33,080 Speaker 1: know we want to have mini pod. So this is 1273 01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:35,800 Speaker 1: a PSA. It's a CTA, but it's really a PSA, 1274 01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:40,120 Speaker 1: a public safety announcement announcement. I want to say, we 1275 01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:43,320 Speaker 1: show up on this podcast and we give it to 1276 01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:46,080 Speaker 1: you straight, no chaser, None of us are edited. This 1277 01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:48,040 Speaker 1: is live to take. We don't go back and listen 1278 01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:49,560 Speaker 1: and say, oh, can you take out this part? Like 1279 01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:51,600 Speaker 1: what you hear is what you get. These are conversations 1280 01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:53,280 Speaker 1: we'd be having whether the cameras are rolling or not. 1281 01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:56,360 Speaker 1: And we love you guys for taking an interest in 1282 01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:59,800 Speaker 1: what we do and showing up. The PSA is this. 1283 01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:05,360 Speaker 1: If you see us out publicly, we make a habit 1284 01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:07,960 Speaker 1: of this is your podcast too. If you disagree with 1285 01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:11,160 Speaker 1: something we say, put it on video, drop us a link. 1286 01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:14,320 Speaker 1: If you see us out publicly, I never mind saying hello, 1287 01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:18,960 Speaker 1: chatting with people, very social people, very Oh that's fine. 1288 01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:24,880 Speaker 1: For your safety. It is not the time to confront 1289 01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:28,680 Speaker 1: any of us in a negative way for your safety 1290 01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:32,800 Speaker 1: and for our safety, because if you're crazy enough to 1291 01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:36,960 Speaker 1: try to aggressively confront one, if we're together, you didn't 1292 01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:40,800 Speaker 1: just confront me, You now confronted Andrew and Angela and 1293 01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:44,640 Speaker 1: anyone else around us. And if I'm by myself, I 1294 01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:47,360 Speaker 1: have to assume if you're getting aggressive with me. I 1295 01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:50,480 Speaker 1: fear for my life and I'm gonna proceed accordingly. So 1296 01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:56,040 Speaker 1: my PSA is, please keep it respectful, Please keep tuning in. 1297 01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:59,000 Speaker 1: We all ride for the people, ride for the community. 1298 01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:01,640 Speaker 1: We love y'all. We welcome y'all home every week. We 1299 01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:05,400 Speaker 1: say that with intention, and we don't. We're not trying 1300 01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:08,440 Speaker 1: to tell you what to think, so we invite a 1301 01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:12,800 Speaker 1: healthy exchange of ideas and ideology and a collegial discourse. 1302 01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:15,400 Speaker 1: So if you want to hear the backstory to this, 1303 01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:19,720 Speaker 1: please tune into the mini pod that will drop on Monday. 1304 01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:22,200 Speaker 1: Minibibes drop every Monday. 1305 01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:24,040 Speaker 6: Do you see what I'm holding? 1306 01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:24,360 Speaker 4: Tips? 1307 01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:24,720 Speaker 3: Yes? 1308 01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:28,760 Speaker 6: Yes, yes, no, this is not this is the lily 1309 01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:32,800 Speaker 6: pad still because Tips this was tips Wet said. So 1310 01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:36,080 Speaker 6: if you feel in, because. 1311 01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:38,560 Speaker 1: I might lead back and hop you know how many 1312 01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:40,240 Speaker 1: days it is to the elections, so you can close 1313 01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:41,080 Speaker 1: us out because. 1314 01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:43,440 Speaker 6: D not enough, I think it was. 1315 01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:46,640 Speaker 1: Is this Synick? Just come on and tell us make 1316 01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:50,600 Speaker 1: your second debut. He was mad at us six sixty eight. 1317 01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:54,480 Speaker 1: I said that, all right, sixty eight days left until 1318 01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:58,760 Speaker 1: the election. Be sure, like Angela said, subscribe, leave a comment, 1319 01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:01,640 Speaker 1: follow us on all our platform sixty eight days to 1320 01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:07,000 Speaker 1: the election, A register to vote exactly. I am Simony 1321 01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:10,920 Speaker 1: and gros here with Andrew Gillom and Angela Right. Welcome home, y'all, 1322 01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:14,000 Speaker 1: Welcome home last morning. 1323 01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:17,400 Speaker 2: Thank you for joining the Natives attentional with the info 1324 01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:20,280 Speaker 2: and all of the latest rock Gillim and cross connected 1325 01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:23,160 Speaker 2: to the statements that you leave on our socials. Thank 1326 01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:26,960 Speaker 2: you sincerely for the patients reason for your choices clear, so. 1327 01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:29,440 Speaker 4: Grateful it took to execute. 1328 01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:32,360 Speaker 2: Roles for serve, defend and protect the truth, even if PA. 1329 01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:36,240 Speaker 2: Welcome home to all of the Natives wait, Thank you, 1330 01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:37,600 Speaker 2: Welcome y'all. 1331 01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:38,200 Speaker 4: Welcome. 1332 01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:49,840 Speaker 1: Native Land Pod is the production of iHeart Radio in 1333 01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:52,600 Speaker 1: partnership with Reason Choice Media. For more podcasts from my 1334 01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:56,000 Speaker 1: Heart Radio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever 1335 01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:57,400 Speaker 1: you listen to your favorite shows.