WEBVTT - Making the Band's Que (Part 2) 0:00:01.200 --> 0:00:05.000 Amy and TJ presents Aubrey Oday covering the Diddy trial. 0:00:06.240 --> 0:00:08.559 We are back now with Aubrey Q from day twenty 0:00:08.600 --> 0:00:09.600 six and his. 0:00:09.560 --> 0:00:10.160 Mom, Nicole. 0:00:10.520 --> 0:00:13.080 You made a reference in that lad interview that to 0:00:13.160 --> 0:00:15.080 a previous interview. You say, yeah, y'all go back and 0:00:15.080 --> 0:00:16.360 look at me and that I think it was twenty 0:00:16.400 --> 0:00:18.760 seventeen or some interviews and you say, you look at 0:00:18.800 --> 0:00:20.400 me in that thing? Do I look okay to you? 0:00:20.960 --> 0:00:24.280 I'm not okay. Something's wrong with When people go back, 0:00:24.360 --> 0:00:26.920 I encourage them to look at this, but we see 0:00:26.960 --> 0:00:30.319 a different individual from the rest sitting there, and I 0:00:30.360 --> 0:00:32.800 didn't know at that point. I'm looking at you, like what. 0:00:32.880 --> 0:00:33.680 Is wrong with him? 0:00:34.000 --> 0:00:36.120 Like without context, you would look at that video and go, 0:00:36.240 --> 0:00:39.839 what's wrong with that kid? What was wrong in that 0:00:40.040 --> 0:00:43.440 moment that you were describing what was wrong? 0:00:44.000 --> 0:00:45.400 That's what he was going through. 0:00:45.880 --> 0:00:48.640 We were trying to figure out what exactly was happening. 0:00:49.159 --> 0:00:52.760 But even before that, I don't know. Day twenty six 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:56.440 did an interview and all the guys were laughing. That 0:00:56.480 --> 0:00:58.520 was the very first when all this Diddy stuff came out. 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:02.040 They did it view and Q was in the back 0:01:02.080 --> 0:01:05.120 and he was saying you know, people don't. 0:01:05.520 --> 0:01:07.080 I don't know what I was. 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:10.560 I was saying something and this is fifty yeah, this 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:11.600 is fifty. 0:01:11.319 --> 0:01:14.080 Yeah, and he was he was talking then and people 0:01:14.360 --> 0:01:18.320 reading people went back on that same interview and said, 0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:20.160 he tried to tell y'all a long time ago. 0:01:21.080 --> 0:01:23.399 A lot of people that was the very first interesting 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:25.479 are pulling stuff up like that now and said, oh, 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:26.120 it was right there. 0:01:26.400 --> 0:01:28.319 It was in our face. It was right in our face. 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:29.040 It was in our face. 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:32.160 I would still travel with him when Day twenty six 0:01:32.280 --> 0:01:34.680 was out doing performances and they would. 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:36.240 Say, well, where's ce. I would go up to the 0:01:36.280 --> 0:01:36.920 hotel room. 0:01:37.000 --> 0:01:40.319 In the room, he's in the shower, sitting in the 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:44.680 middle of the shower with the water just pouring like 0:01:44.720 --> 0:01:47.600 he was trying to get his thoughts and everything. 0:01:49.920 --> 0:01:50.800 You know what's interesting. 0:01:50.840 --> 0:01:53.280 I ran into somebody during the AIDS walk and they said, 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:56.120 to me, you said it all along, but you weren't 0:01:56.120 --> 0:01:59.440 the person we wanted to hear it from. And as 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:02.560 I'm hearing your line of your discussion that you guys 0:02:02.600 --> 0:02:05.760 are having, I'm thinking to myself, it wasn't just I 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:07.160 wasn't the one they wanted to hear it from. They 0:02:07.200 --> 0:02:09.200 weren't trying to hear it from any of us. It 0:02:09.280 --> 0:02:13.760 took so many people along the way to have these 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:16.160 types of interviews that you're discussing. 0:02:17.320 --> 0:02:19.399 To finally culminate in some way. 0:02:19.480 --> 0:02:23.919 I still wonder systematically what the energy is in that 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:27.720 department that took that potentially have has a role in this, 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:31.360 because I don't even I don't know how much anyone 0:02:31.480 --> 0:02:33.880 cared about any of us. And if you could even 0:02:33.880 --> 0:02:36.360 see it back in an interview, then I've been saying 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:38.960 it for twenty years. Who what kind of person needed 0:02:38.960 --> 0:02:40.800 to say it in order for everybody to listen. 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:44.400 What's crazy is Then they laughed at him his own bandmates, 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:47.440 Oh he's talking crazy. He doesn't know what he's saying. 0:02:48.600 --> 0:02:53.080 They were laughing at Cue in the interview. However, what's 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:55.799 interesting is that interview they laughed at him, But the 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:58.240 last interview on Vlad, everybody's crying. 0:02:58.440 --> 0:02:59.400 Everyone was crying. 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:02.200 You know, you said, who, what's it going to take? 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:02.920 It was? 0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:06.560 It was Cassie. It was Cassie Ventura filing a lawsuit. 0:03:07.120 --> 0:03:11.360 And that's finally when you have the federal investigators looking 0:03:11.440 --> 0:03:14.000 into it on a criminal level. And now you obviously 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:16.679 have him where he is on trial. I'm curious from 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:21.480 both of Q and from Mama, what was your reaction 0:03:22.360 --> 0:03:25.320 when the lawsuit was filed and then when the federal 0:03:25.400 --> 0:03:26.600 charges actually came down. 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:29.320 Well, I felt some kind of way. 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:32.280 I didn't feel some kind of way until interesting, right, 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:34.600 I felt some kind of way when the day that 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:37.040 he was arrested, how don came out? 0:03:37.080 --> 0:03:40.680 Then haha, what did she do that day? Remember? 0:03:40.800 --> 0:03:43.000 She That's when she came out that she was filing 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:45.640 a lawsuit on him as well. It was a bit 0:03:45.680 --> 0:03:47.640 after that, but yeah, yeah, well you know what I mean. 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:50.360 That's that's when I really like and I'm saying again. 0:03:50.200 --> 0:03:51.840 You don't know what she could have been working with 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:54.680 the feds. She could have been helping build a case 0:03:54.720 --> 0:03:57.080 we don't know, or she there could be something else 0:03:57.120 --> 0:03:57.600 we don't know. 0:03:58.560 --> 0:04:00.160 You wanted to give her the benefit of the day out. 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:04.040 I meidding. 0:04:04.360 --> 0:04:07.400 Mother's intuition, and I'm sticking with that, and I'm going 0:04:07.640 --> 0:04:08.640 I'm gonna respect. 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:11.800 That even if he's found guilty on all five counts. 0:04:11.960 --> 0:04:16.960 Aubrey and Q, is that justice for you? Is that 0:04:17.200 --> 0:04:19.799 justice for you? Right? Everybody may have their own level 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:21.400 of any justice for me? 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:24.680 Because for me personally, I'm. 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:31.200 I'm noticing this like cultural obsession with just being disgusted 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:32.880 by him and wanting him to go down. 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:34.159 They want him under the jail. 0:04:34.240 --> 0:04:37.760 It's just this I'm noticing just within the press that 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:40.840 I experienced on a very like lower scale just this 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:43.680 past week. I was so loved when I was going 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:46.720 to testify. Then if I'm doing a podcaster or there 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:49.320 were headlines that I potentially were supporting him or whatever 0:04:49.640 --> 0:04:52.839 the narrative was being put out there, but either way, 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:56.400 what I noticed is like there's this like uproar of 0:04:56.480 --> 0:04:59.400 people just disgusted with the testimony and really just wanting 0:04:59.400 --> 0:05:05.560 to see him go down, and I. 0:05:03.920 --> 0:05:05.400 Just want to I just really am. 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:09.520 I'm seeing that, like without even listening to reason and 0:05:09.560 --> 0:05:13.920 following everybody's testimony and the law and everything else, we're 0:05:14.040 --> 0:05:18.000 just it just feels like it's been decided. And and 0:05:18.080 --> 0:05:21.480 I know how I personally feel by also coming from 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:24.680 you know, a parent that's a lawyer and wanting to 0:05:24.720 --> 0:05:27.120 go to law school myself and having like, you know, 0:05:27.279 --> 0:05:31.440 an obsession, uh you know, a love language with the law. 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:35.840 I want to see justice legally occur. I don't want 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:39.240 it to feel like it's an emotional choice. And I 0:05:39.279 --> 0:05:41.479 don't know how a juror takes emotion out of it 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:44.360 at this point, because just hearing the details of one 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:48.239 person's story eliminates the ability for that in my opinion, 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:53.200 Now now you've heard, you know, I haven't fully I 0:05:53.240 --> 0:05:55.760 can't fully talk about mine. But now that you guys 0:05:55.920 --> 0:05:59.200 up close and personally know two, and now with Cassie's three, 0:05:59.800 --> 0:06:02.960 it's it's loaded, it's layered. There's a lot going on. 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:06.000 There's all kinds of things that I'm seeing are wrong. 0:06:06.080 --> 0:06:08.640 In my opinion, I want to see a cultural reset 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:12.880 on the music industry. I think there are toxic levels 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:15.480 and layers to this that involve all kinds of things 0:06:15.520 --> 0:06:18.120 and people. It's been gossiped in the streets for a 0:06:18.200 --> 0:06:22.680 long time that there are things that are off with him. No, Mama, 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:24.560 have you heard the gossip in the streets. 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:25.120 I have. 0:06:27.000 --> 0:06:28.440 There's gossip in the streets. 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:32.120 It's been there for a long time, and some people 0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:36.160 like me or whoever said it put things together for people. 0:06:36.680 --> 0:06:37.280 I don't know. 0:06:37.360 --> 0:06:39.880 I just I think that people don't look at it 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:43.360 like that just as much because if you just like 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:45.680 I said, people there are people out here that fame 0:06:45.760 --> 0:06:50.000 is what they want. They want to be in the 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:53.800 shoes of someone who has the money. They want that lifestyle, 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:55.600 they want that fame. 0:06:55.680 --> 0:06:58.000 That that you know, I think big. 0:06:58.000 --> 0:06:59.839 It's a big part of what you're saying. In this case, 0:07:00.000 --> 0:07:02.520 that's kind of was his brand, right. He takes a 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:04.760 bunch of unknown people on this TV show and he 0:07:04.839 --> 0:07:05.840 makes them a band. 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:10.440 You know, it's. 0:07:08.839 --> 0:07:13.800 Bringing the non celebrity fame person to the light and 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:17.440 giving them celebrity and fame. And because his brand of 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:20.720 celebrity and fame was engulfed in all kinds. 0:07:20.400 --> 0:07:23.240 Of you know howeveryone wants to see it. 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:25.080 I don't want to place judgment, so I'm looking for 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:28.960 the word, but let's just say dark behavior. Yeah, Like, 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:32.680 because there's there's that energy over there. Everybody that was 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:36.760 in his area of celebrity and fame experience that. They 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:39.760 also experienced all of the highs that he has all 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:43.080 of the lows, like, you know, the emotions were very 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:45.640 extreme and very instant. 0:07:46.280 --> 0:07:47.440 You know, it was giving. 0:07:48.120 --> 0:07:50.800 Even watching you guys an Danny d Kane when all 0:07:50.840 --> 0:07:53.360 that stuff unfolded and he had the little person, Oh well, Aubrey, 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:54.840 We're dismissing you. 0:07:54.840 --> 0:07:56.480 You can go too, and you can go to. 0:07:57.560 --> 0:08:01.240 And I felt that that moment then I felt I 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:01.920 just felt that. 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:06.960 I just I don't know, it's just it's just crazy. 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:18.800 I was asking about justice. I want to hear from 0:08:18.800 --> 0:08:19.320 you tube. 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:22.440 What does justice look like for you with the did 0:08:22.680 --> 0:08:23.200 with Diddy? 0:08:23.200 --> 0:08:23.720 Did he? Yeah? 0:08:23.800 --> 0:08:26.360 And for what your son has experienced in this whole situation? 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:27.360 Is there a different levels? 0:08:27.360 --> 0:08:33.400 I think that everybody that had a hand in everything 0:08:33.440 --> 0:08:33.960 that's going. 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:34.400 On that part. 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:37.079 So how many people are we talking about seriously? 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:39.760 Because I don't really see, I don't really know. 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:43.280 I can only speak on what I've experienced around my child. 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:47.200 Anyone that was willingly bringing people in, anyone that was 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:51.679 willingly doing things with somebody that was passed out correct, 0:08:52.120 --> 0:08:59.359 anyone that was part of the wrangling or the actual behavior. 0:08:59.800 --> 0:09:02.920 To me, the wranglers are just as bad as the behavior. 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:05.160 And Q has anyone ever reached out to you from 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:09.440 law enforcement, homeland security investigators asking for your take on 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:11.440 what happened to you, what your experiences were. 0:09:11.640 --> 0:09:16.200 No, I honestly think the picture of me wasn't painted correctly. 0:09:16.480 --> 0:09:17.120 I don't believe. 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:21.840 If I believe that maybe someone had a conversation and 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:24.640 told them a false story about me, then tell them 0:09:24.679 --> 0:09:28.760 the truth about who I am, and which probably made 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:31.400 them be like, Okay, this is not a person to 0:09:32.160 --> 0:09:34.680 believe or I don't know. So I'm just thinking like 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:37.559 maybe like like you guys didn't know like the information 0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:39.920 I told you, like that's the truth. I'm thinking they 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:42.600 got like another story like this is who he is 0:09:42.800 --> 0:09:44.319 and don't believe him. 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:46.640 And do you think perhaps your mental health issues, which 0:09:46.679 --> 0:09:50.800 have been publicly documented, created a situation which they thought, well, 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:52.040 he'll just get torn apart. 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:54.800 They don't know about my mental health prior to this trial. 0:09:54.840 --> 0:09:57.400 You did announce it, so maybe they just felt, Yeah, 0:09:57.480 --> 0:09:58.959 it's always that you can't you. 0:09:58.920 --> 0:10:01.600 Can't take somebody's ex experience out of the water because 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:06.079 they have any type of mental health condition, like people 0:10:06.120 --> 0:10:08.640 that I everybody in this room probably has some. It's 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:10.400 a sliding skill everything. 0:10:12.160 --> 0:10:13.839 Let's be a break, and let's be clear. 0:10:14.160 --> 0:10:15.720 You never you have to take Diddy out of the 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:17.360 trial if you're not going to address mental health. 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:19.960 But this is the thing, and let's be clear you 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:23.040 never had any intentions on suing anyone. 0:10:23.480 --> 0:10:27.800 He never has. I know, That's what that's because he doesn't. 0:10:27.600 --> 0:10:30.120 If I can only get an apology. 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:32.439 He wants a ditty, I asked him, kept saying. 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:35.160 And the hell wants an apology. 0:10:35.520 --> 0:10:37.320 I want you to pay for what you've done, if 0:10:37.320 --> 0:10:39.960 you had something to do with hurting and harming me, 0:10:40.559 --> 0:10:42.160 he asked for an apology. 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:44.319 But this is why I wanted an apology from Diddy 0:10:44.360 --> 0:10:46.920 because at the time, I was very young. He has 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:50.160 sons my age, He has sons that are my age, 0:10:50.160 --> 0:10:51.040 and I'm like. 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:53.079 They're in their own court supporting you, you know I. 0:10:53.000 --> 0:10:55.520 Mean, And the way he orchestrated that pill to be 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:58.360 given to me was fucked up, because you want the 0:10:58.360 --> 0:11:00.720 one that might do that to your kids. And I 0:11:00.800 --> 0:11:04.240 was very very young around his kids, his young son's 0:11:04.320 --> 0:11:06.880 kids age, you know what I'm saying, maybe a couple 0:11:06.920 --> 0:11:09.559 of years older. So I think that's why I ask, like, man, 0:11:09.600 --> 0:11:12.640 I just really want a genuine apology of why you 0:11:12.679 --> 0:11:15.400 did that to me because I don't really understand, and 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:18.720 can you be man enough to apologize to me, because 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:20.119 I don't want to sue you. 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:21.400 When you woke up in that room. Was he in 0:11:21.440 --> 0:11:21.800 the room? 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:22.360 Yes? 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:25.520 He was down there with the camera, yes. 0:11:26.200 --> 0:11:28.480 And with that. Do you think that's enough for you? 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:30.200 You think if did he come and you fill in 0:11:30.240 --> 0:11:35.240 the blank, if he says Q, I apologize for blank 0:11:35.720 --> 0:11:37.840 and you're telling me that it's going to be a healing, 0:11:38.080 --> 0:11:38.640 that would tell. 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:40.679 Me what I would know that I'm not that I'm 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:42.240 not talking crazy to people. 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:42.959 You know what I mean? 0:11:43.679 --> 0:11:46.280 Do you start to doubt your own story? Yeah, certain 0:11:46.280 --> 0:11:48.280 point or what your own experience. 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:50.440 Was, Yeah, yeah, that's true. 0:11:50.679 --> 0:11:54.240 The testimony has been so dramatic that I get wrapped 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:55.720 up in the emotion of it, and then I go 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:57.640 home and go, girls. 0:11:57.160 --> 0:12:00.840 Stop, you saw a little bits of egg y and 0:12:00.960 --> 0:12:03.760 z where you know, you know what you know? 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:07.120 And then I calm down for a second and go, Okay, 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:10.040 let me just I always try to come back. Like 0:12:10.080 --> 0:12:12.559 I said day one, when you said what I want 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:14.520 the ending to be, I want that. I want to wait. 0:12:14.559 --> 0:12:17.200 I don't have a choice. I don't have like a 0:12:17.240 --> 0:12:19.920 dog in the fight. I like I said, my my, 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:21.880 My number one thing that I love is the law. 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:24.719 The number one thing I respect or the officers that 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:27.760 went around and did what they did, and the number 0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:29.480 one thing that I want to see happen is I 0:12:29.520 --> 0:12:32.400 want them to prove the case that they brought forward. 0:12:32.640 --> 0:12:33.920 They're the Southern District. 0:12:34.200 --> 0:12:38.880 They fail very very few times. I don't think they'd 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:42.320 take a fail on Ditty, the biggest iconic, you know, 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:46.840 one of the biggest, most iconic people in the music world. 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:49.520 So to me, I just want the case to be proven. 0:12:49.720 --> 0:12:56.880 And maybe it, you know, it is in the the weave, 0:12:57.400 --> 0:12:59.400 the weaving of the good and bad, you know. I 0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:02.880 think there was admission by Cassie that of the things 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:05.959 that she said that may appear like there was desires 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:08.280 in some of it and then not desires in a 0:13:08.320 --> 0:13:11.720 lot of it. You know, maybe it is complicated and complex, 0:13:11.800 --> 0:13:15.319 and maybe you have to leave room for even with Dawn, 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:16.839 and I know you guys don't feel that way. 0:13:16.960 --> 0:13:19.480 Right now, Mama, I want to ask you one last 0:13:19.520 --> 0:13:23.520 thing here. First, you've we didn't understand fully. Did you 0:13:23.800 --> 0:13:24.920 spend any time with did he? 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:26.520 I met Diddy one time? 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:27.640 Just what was your impression. 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:30.800 I can't really. 0:13:30.600 --> 0:13:33.720 Say nothing bad because I didn't meet him until after 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:36.160 they made the band. And there was a club appearance 0:13:36.200 --> 0:13:38.760 and I think it was an album release. I just 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:41.320 know it was a club appearance or a little party, 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:43.319 private party or something, and I met him that one 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:46.120 time and just introduced this is cu'es mom. 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:48.360 He just say hey, Cassie was there. 0:13:48.960 --> 0:13:51.559 But that was the last time that I've ever physically 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:52.400 been around Diddy. 0:13:52.480 --> 0:13:55.160 I've never so here's the last thing I wanted to. 0:13:56.320 --> 0:13:57.240 He was very quiet. 0:13:57.480 --> 0:14:01.280 He was very quiet, and I can't put anything onto 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:03.560 how I felt at that time because I just knew 0:14:03.640 --> 0:14:04.479 it was Diddy. 0:14:04.240 --> 0:14:06.760 And just being in the room, and it was exciting. 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:08.000 It was very exciting for me. 0:14:08.040 --> 0:14:09.520 But let me just say this, I've been in the 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:12.360 room with a lot of celebrities since then, and I'm 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:14.400 the one that stands back. I never I can't even 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:17.560 give you pictures of celebrities that I've even been in 0:14:17.600 --> 0:14:20.440 the room with, just traveling along with Q because I 0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:22.960 always wanted. I didn't want to. I didn't want to 0:14:22.960 --> 0:14:25.840 feel like I was a groupie, you know what I mean. So, 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:26.840 I mean it's exciting. 0:14:26.840 --> 0:14:28.440 Most people be like, oh, can I get a picture, 0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:29.920 you know, with you just as a moment. 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:32.240 I've never been that type of person, So I can't 0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:34.960 even give you photos of people that I actually been around, 0:14:35.240 --> 0:14:37.920 not even with you, guys. I've never pressured you, guys. 0:14:37.920 --> 0:14:40.280 And when day twenty six was around. I've never said 0:14:40.280 --> 0:14:45.320 Aubrey or Andrea or you know, even Dawn. Even having 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:48.960 my son and Down together was a powerful thing because 0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:50.120 back then they were dq. 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:52.200 Everybody loved them, you know. 0:14:52.400 --> 0:14:55.040 And I can't even remember really how many photos I 0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:57.680 have on hand with just my son and Down because 0:14:57.720 --> 0:14:58.640 I just never was that. 0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:00.920 I just I just I'm not. 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:03.920 This is the very first interview that I've ever done 0:15:04.800 --> 0:15:09.680 and had anything to say, because I don't want people 0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:13.040 to think that, you know, oh what, there's his mom again, 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:15.360 you know what I mean, or you know, anything like. 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:19.160 But this time I wanted to speak how I felt 0:15:20.040 --> 0:15:26.600 because I thought it was important. 0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:33.080 Why I wanted to ask you this last is because 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:34.920 we've been covering this story and all this for a 0:15:34.960 --> 0:15:38.200 long long time, very closely, and one of the most 0:15:38.280 --> 0:15:43.320 human moments of this whole story happened in this room 0:15:43.360 --> 0:15:44.680 while we're doing this podcast. 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:45.120 Because of you. 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:49.640 We watched this trial and so many it's celebrity and 0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:52.400 we see famous folks doing it, and it seemed so 0:15:52.640 --> 0:15:55.320 how far fetched and out of reach. But this is 0:15:55.360 --> 0:15:58.400 the most relatable part that anybody, or at least I've heard, 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:03.160 because there is a mother for her son. And my 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:06.240 question was about and I'm sorry that asked this lastly, 0:16:06.280 --> 0:16:08.920 but as a parent, I think it's probably there some 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:13.400 bit of guilt that you feel for putting your son 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:15.520 in that position which you were trying to just help him. 0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:18.080 But do you as a mother, and I'm asking it 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:20.920 in a human way versus forget to try, But just 0:16:20.960 --> 0:16:23.440 as a mother, did you have moments and has this 0:16:23.520 --> 0:16:26.280 all been difficult in that regard? Just as a mother, 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:31.440 forget the celebrity feeling like you in some way your 0:16:31.480 --> 0:16:34.360 son down and some way I know those guilty parties, 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:36.360 and I was saying your fault, but do you as 0:16:36.360 --> 0:16:37.560 a mother cannot help but. 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:41.480 Feel that yes, I can agree with what you're saying. 0:16:44.360 --> 0:16:46.000 That That's why I say, I just wish my son 0:16:46.040 --> 0:16:48.520 would have just stayed in college. I just don't. I don't. 0:16:48.680 --> 0:16:49.920 I hate this fame stuff. 0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:55.040 It's okay, but don't feel guilty because the decision was 0:16:55.160 --> 0:16:56.200 my decision, Mama. 0:16:56.720 --> 0:16:58.880 I decided. I begged him for my dream. 0:16:59.200 --> 0:17:00.960 I begged him when he called me and he says, Mom, 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:03.840 I'm not gonna stay in college. I'm gonna do this 0:17:03.920 --> 0:17:07.719 making in the band. And I said, Q, you wasted 0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:10.280 my money. It was the first thing. 0:17:10.440 --> 0:17:11.160 Yeah, he did. 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:15.119 He did three months, one semester, Five Towns College, one semester. 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:18.400 I'm like, are you serious? My money's gone down to drain, 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:20.240 Like why are we gonna pay this back? 0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:22.600 You know, we're already struggling to send you to Five 0:17:22.640 --> 0:17:26.600 Towns College, very expensive New York City, so you know, 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:30.760 just to get that call and he's like, Mom, I'm 0:17:30.760 --> 0:17:33.439 not going back to school. I'm gonna do this same stuff, 0:17:33.480 --> 0:17:36.160 So like, you please think about what you're doing. 0:17:36.720 --> 0:17:39.080 And then he called me back and he said, I 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:43.840 made the next round, and I made the next round. 0:17:44.359 --> 0:17:45.720 My gut dropped to the ground. 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:48.360 I made the next round. And then when you go 0:17:48.440 --> 0:17:54.200 to I'm on the show, then I made the band. 0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:55.320 I was very. 0:17:55.119 --> 0:18:00.480 Excited because even though I doubted him about moving forward 0:18:00.520 --> 0:18:03.800 with this, he did what he wanted to do and 0:18:03.840 --> 0:18:08.879 he accomplished it, and I was happy for him. Today, 0:18:08.920 --> 0:18:13.240 I don't feel so happy because I was hurt along 0:18:13.280 --> 0:18:16.240 the way about how my son was hurt. And you 0:18:16.359 --> 0:18:26.000 think that you would think that you would be so 0:18:26.119 --> 0:18:31.720 happy for your child to make it as a celebrity, 0:18:31.760 --> 0:18:33.240 because that's what they wanted to be. 0:18:34.760 --> 0:18:36.159 And to be drug through the dirt. 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:39.840 The way all of this has played hours terrible. 0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:43.520 You couldn't protect him. 0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:46.639 I couldn't protect him. I couldn't protect him from his management. 0:18:46.960 --> 0:18:49.440 I couldn't protect him from Diddy. I couldn't protect him 0:18:49.440 --> 0:18:57.600 from Dawn. And it hurts. It hurts because my son 0:18:57.720 --> 0:18:59.800 was so vibrant and a lot of times I still 0:18:59.840 --> 0:19:01.719 look at him today. Is how he even talks. 0:19:02.160 --> 0:19:04.800 It's different at thirty seven. 0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:08.760 I know that something traumatic has happened to him because 0:19:08.760 --> 0:19:10.600 of just how he explains his things. 0:19:11.240 --> 0:19:12.760 It's how he talks. 0:19:12.400 --> 0:19:14.480