1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Hi, everyone, we have some exciting news to share. ABC 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: News Studios has turned Caroline Brega's story from Betrayal season 3 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: four into a docuseriies you'll get to meet the people involved, 4 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: You'll hear from people who have never spoken before, and 5 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: you get to see where this story took place. We 6 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: are so proud and excited to share it with you all. 7 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 1: Stream Betrayal Dirty Secrets now on Hulu or Hulu for 8 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: Disney Plus. 9 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 2: I cannot have this. I have worked very hard to 10 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:35,639 Speaker 2: have a life of peace and we have a child. 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It was very chaotic, a lot of fighting 31 00:01:58,080 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 2: for attentions. 32 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: I had a good relationship with her father, but he 33 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: was in and out of the house when she was 34 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: growing up. As the primary caregiver, her mom held everything together. 35 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: With seven kids, it was an exhausting job. 36 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 2: She was super mom. She was stressed out and it 37 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 2: wasn't easy. 38 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: When the house got too loud, Denisia escaped into her 39 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: bedroom and watched her favorite TV shows. She practically had 40 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: the TV guide memorized. 41 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 2: I'm an eighties kid, so it was full house and 42 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 2: perfect strangers. 43 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: Denisia's mom ran a tight ship, especially when it came 44 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: to dating. 45 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 2: My mom was antiboys, anti dating. She would tell me 46 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 2: constantly that you don't trust men, you don't rely on men. 47 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: On Sundays, Denisha's family attended church. They were Pentecostal and 48 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: that came with its own expectations. 49 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 2: There were so many rules. Sex was on the top 50 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 2: of the list. If you did that, you were just done. 51 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 1: For Denisha followed all of the rules very carefully. There 52 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,519 Speaker 1: were certain movies she couldn't watch, certain clothes she wasn't 53 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: allowed to wear, so she had to find creative ways 54 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: to express herself. 55 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 2: I got extensions and they were always rainbow colored, and 56 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 2: that was exciting. It was pretty much the only thing 57 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 2: my mom would allow. 58 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: In high school, Denisha made a plan for her future. 59 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 2: I thought that immediately after high school, I would go 60 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 2: to college, find my husband, buy a house, have a 61 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 2: couple kids, and then be a career woman. 62 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: After graduating, Denisia enrolled at Biola University, an evangelical Christian 63 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: university in southeast LA. She graduated with a degree in 64 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: communication disorders. 65 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 2: I was really looking forward to doing either speech therapy 66 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 2: or some sort of work with the deaf community. 67 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: After college. She was eager to start her life. She 68 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: couldn't wait to get a job, get married, and start 69 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: a family. 70 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 2: I was like, doors are going to open, right, this 71 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 2: is obvious. 72 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: She started applying to jobs and speech therapy, but she 73 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: was rejected again and again. It was discouraging. 74 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 2: I had a chip on my shoulder because I had 75 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 2: a degree. 76 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,679 Speaker 1: And that wasn't the only thing that wasn't going to plan. 77 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: Denisia struggled to find a romantic partner. She put herself 78 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: out there and went on dates, but she didn't meet 79 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: anyone she genuinely connected with. 80 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,359 Speaker 2: I was miserable. This was not what I signed up for. 81 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: Her childhood in the church hadn't prepared her for this disappointment. 82 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 2: I was doing everything right. I left God, I talked 83 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 2: to God, I read the Bible. I thought, why am 84 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 2: I not getting my husband. 85 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: She'd always believed that there was a formula to a 86 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: fulfilling life, but now that she was an adult, she 87 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: began to see. 88 00:04:55,800 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 2: The formula doesn't exist. Everybody's on their own journey. 89 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: She had to start figuring out what she truly wanted 90 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: when she wasn't trying to follow other people's rules. So 91 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: she decided to go back to school for accounting. 92 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 2: I love accounting. I am very virgo, and I want 93 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 2: the receipts. I want to know the proof. 94 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: Denisha worked hard and excelled at school. After getting her 95 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 1: graduate certificate in accounting. She quickly found a job. She'd 96 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 1: been ambitious her whole life, but in her twenties, she 97 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: found a way to channel her hard work towards schools 98 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: that genuinely excited and challenged her. She was finally living 99 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: life on her own terms. She started saving up money 100 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 1: and bought her first condo. 101 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 2: By her thirties, I was feeling like the badass bitch 102 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 2: like I have doing this life stuff well. 103 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: Going back to school for accounting, she'd established a serious relationship. 104 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: She and her boyfriend had been together for years, but 105 00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: as she excelled, she noticed he wasn't growing with her. 106 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 2: This man was just kind of bumming. He was a 107 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 2: very nice man, but he was not motivated, and it 108 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 2: was bumming me out. 109 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: She wanted a life partner who was as ambitious as 110 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: she was, someone who she could rely on, who she 111 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: could trust enough to build a family with. 112 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 2: I had enough, and I said, you have to go. 113 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 2: You have to go, and so he went, and I 114 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 2: felt like this weight off my shoulders. 115 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,239 Speaker 1: After the breakup, Denisha decided to live on her own. 116 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: She was surprised at how much she loved her newfound independence. 117 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 2: I smoothly walked into having my own place, in my 118 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 2: own space, in peace of mind. I started working out, 119 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 2: I had a personal trainer. I had people over when 120 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 2: I wanted half people over. So I had a jet 121 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 2: tub in my condo. My favorite thing to do was 122 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 2: get a glass of wine and some snacks, go take 123 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 2: a nice hot bath. 124 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 1: As she got into her late thirties, she knew the 125 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 1: window to have kids was closing. She started considering the 126 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: idea of pursuing motherhood on her own. 127 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 2: I had the career, I had a home, so this 128 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 2: kid would not miss out on anything. But ideally, ideally, 129 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 2: I would love a great partner. 130 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: So she decided to give dating one more shot. After 131 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: her last breakup, she had a clear picture of what 132 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,239 Speaker 1: she wanted in a romantic partner. 133 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 2: I desired somebody who really took responsibility for his family 134 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 2: and led his family. 135 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: Denisha made a profile on a dating app called. 136 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 2: Wu It's an app for people who love to date 137 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 2: bigger people, mainly men and bigger women. I was a 138 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 2: thick girl and proud of it. 139 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: After a few days, she matched with a man who 140 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: stood out from the rest. His name was Lorenzo. 141 00:07:55,400 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 2: His pictures were just everything. He was super sexy. 142 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: They messaged back and forth a bit. At first, it 143 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: was casual. 144 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 2: We rarely talked about the times that we did, it 145 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 2: was a fruitful conversation. I really liked him. 146 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: Lorenzo wasn't pushy or overbearing. If anything, he was more reserved. 147 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: He had a military background. 148 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 2: I just remember being impressed with him and really wanting 149 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 2: to crack this nut, but like he would not open 150 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 2: up as much as I wanted him to. 151 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: Denisha was hoping that Lorenzo would ask her out. He 152 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 1: hadn't been forthcoming about what he wanted yet. In the meantime, 153 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: Denisha went on dates with other guys she met on WU, 154 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: but none of the men she was meeting impressed her. 155 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 2: One night, I had a date with a man named Richard. 156 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 2: He was okay, he was not a bad guy, but 157 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 2: it was just not for me. And I got home 158 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 2: and I was really not stealing well about that. Like 159 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 2: this keeps happening. I keep meeting okay man, but I'm 160 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 2: not meeting the man. 161 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 1: Was starting to lose hope that the man of her 162 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: dreams was out there, But in that exact moment her phone. 163 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 2: Rang, Lorenzo called and said, I have some time off 164 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 2: of work. Do you want to meet. I was still 165 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 2: in my outfit from the date prior that evening, and 166 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 2: I absolutely wanted to meet. 167 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 1: I could not wait, even though it was late at night. 168 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: They made plans to meet up for their first date. 169 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 2: We found a bar called The Stash on Fourth Street 170 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 2: in Long Beach and they had seating outside. 171 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 1: When she got there, she locked eyes with Lorenzo. 172 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 2: He was beautiful to look at six', four just towered over, 173 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 2: me big, guy dressed to the, nine smelled so. 174 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: Good they made their way to the bars outside. 175 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 2: Patio he pulled my chair, out such a. Gentleman we 176 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 2: talked about our upbringing and our goals and our careers. 177 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: On other, dates making CONVERSATION i felt like pulling, teeth 178 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:03,559 Speaker 1: but talking To lorenzo was. 179 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 2: Effortless and then we got on the conversation of do 180 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 2: you want? Kids he didn't have. KIDS i didn't have, 181 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 2: kids AND i, Said i'm willing IF i find the right. 182 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: Person lorenzo said he'd always wanted to be a. Dad 183 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: this Made denisha lean. In usually the guys she met 184 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: either already had kids or weren't interested in starting a. 185 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: Family When denisha looked at her, watch she was surprised 186 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: to see that hours had gone. 187 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 2: BY i told him it was getting kind of, late 188 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 2: and one walked me to my, car made SURE i 189 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 2: was on the inside of the, sidewalk which was so. 190 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: Sweet standing on the sidewalk next To denisha's, Car lorenzo 191 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: leaned in to kiss. 192 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 2: Her it was the best kiss That i've ever had 193 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 2: in my. Life it was just. 194 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: Amazing lorenzo didn't walk away until he was Sure denisha 195 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 1: was safely on her way. 196 00:10:56,320 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 2: Home we watched AS i burged onto the main, street 197 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 2: made SURE i got home by a. TEXT i got 198 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 2: home with a smile from ear to. EAR i was, 199 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 2: cautious but so. Excited it was a great, night the 200 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 2: best Date i've ever. 201 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: Had this was the kind of guy she'd been waiting. 202 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: For when she woke up the next, morning a text 203 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 1: From lorenzo greeted. 204 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 2: Her he had left me a text message and dedicated 205 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 2: a song to. Me it made me smile and get 206 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 2: butterflies in my. 207 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: Stomach their second date followed soon, after and then their. 208 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 2: Third we were joined at the hip since our first. 209 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: Date soon they made their relationship. Official denisha's knowledge Of 210 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 1: lorenzo's life grew from a few bullet points on his 211 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: dating profile to the full. 212 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 2: Story he grew up In Puerto rico for the first 213 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 2: portion of his. Life his mom was still. There he 214 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 2: had been in the military for most of his. Life 215 00:11:56,160 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 2: he had enlisted right after high. School he started in 216 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 2: The army and then matriculated Into, marines and then he 217 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 2: went all the way up the ranks to. 218 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 1: Colonel he Showed denisia some of his old, uniforms decked 219 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,719 Speaker 1: out with military pins and. Accolades he shared stories from 220 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 1: his years in the. Service he Told denisia about the 221 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: time he stepped on a homemade bomb while on. 222 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 2: Deployment it really destroyed his body and then was put 223 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 2: back together In, germany like titanium and. 224 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: Everything he'd since retired from active military, service but he 225 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: still worked for The department Of. 226 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 2: Defense he worked FOR. 227 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: DCIS, dcis Or Defense Criminal Investigative, service investigates fraud and 228 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 1: corruption within The department Of. 229 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 2: Defense he had a gun on him all the, time 230 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 2: no matter where we, were he had a gun in his. 231 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: Badge after dating men who lacked, Direction lorenzo's passion for 232 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: his work was a breath of fresh. 233 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 2: AIR i was really impressed the, military the high profile government. 234 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 2: Job it just was like a cherry on top of 235 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 2: this sexy, man like he's on the right side of, 236 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 2: things making sure our military is, safe AND i felt 237 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 2: safe with. HIM i felt. 238 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: Protected as the time they spent together, grew so did their. 239 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 2: Feelings it didn't take long for us to be telling 240 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 2: each other we loved each. 241 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: Other Soon lorenzo moved in With. Denisia they spent countless 242 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: hours watching movies AND tv shows together and debriefing about 243 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: the characters and themes of the. 244 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 2: Story, afterwards we would have long conversations and would morph 245 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 2: into like philosophical, conversations and we would get deep into 246 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 2: our religious, backgrounds and he also was deconstructing his. 247 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: Faith they could talk about. Anything when conflicts did, arise 248 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: they worked through them together with patience and. 249 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 2: Care the disagreements we had were short and, sporadic and 250 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 2: it was more of a. Conversation it s felt so. 251 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 2: Adult it felt so good to just be able to 252 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 2: express SOMETHING i didn't like or something that was bothering, 253 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 2: me and we could just talk it. 254 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: Out the only thing they couldn't really talk about Was lorenzo's. 255 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 2: Job it was super. SECRET i couldn't know too. Much 256 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 2: every once in a, while he'd give me a little 257 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 2: bit of an inkling about a case that he was working, 258 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 2: on but no, names no. 259 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: Details lorenzo worked long, hours and. 260 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 2: He would come home at like four o'clock in the, 261 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 2: morning or he would be gone for a. 262 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: Week lorenzo Told danisha he had to travel often for. 263 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 2: Work me and my girlfriend called HIM fbi because we 264 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 2: knew he was working for the federal government and some 265 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 2: high profile, thing and SO i would call HIM fbi 266 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 2: babe WHEN i was referring to. 267 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: Him When lorenzo was traveling for, work he always stayed 268 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: in touch over. 269 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 2: Text he would just send me pictures of the plane 270 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 2: he was going. On he would send me pictures of 271 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 2: him in uniform going into a high profile meeting before 272 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 2: he had to turn his phone in at. 273 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: Work lorenzo was fearless and With, denisia he was, caring, 274 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: gentle and. Patient she felt at home by his. Side 275 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: she'd been waiting for a love like this her whole. 276 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 2: Life And i've heard stories before that if you, know you, 277 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 2: know AND i JUST i. KNEW i knew this was, 278 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 2: HIM i knew this was my. 279 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: Guy they had only been dating for a couple of, 280 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: months but she knew what she. Wanted denisha was in 281 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: her late, thirties and she told him her priority was 282 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: starting a. 283 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 2: Family, finally you, know and two grown up nerds were 284 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 2: both almost in our, forties never, married no, Kids let's 285 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 2: do this. 286 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: Together so they made the unconventional decision to prioritize starting 287 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: a family as soon as. 288 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 2: Possible if it, happened in my, mind it would be 289 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 2: just a. Blessing and then it. HAPPENED i was so 290 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 2: elated she was. 291 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: Pregnant it felt like. Fate but she was nervous to 292 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: Tell lorenzo now that being a dad wasn't just an 293 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: idea but a. Reality what if he changed his. 294 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 2: MIND i told, him you don't have to. STAY i 295 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 2: could do this on my, own and he, said absolutely. 296 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 2: Not that was not even a question in his. Mind 297 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 2: we're going to do this first time. Parents let's do. 298 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: This But dinisha had a lot of complications with her. 299 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: PREGNANCY i had everything in the. 300 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 2: Book Because i'm, OLDER i was already high. Risk and 301 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 2: then twelve week mark they did the diabetes, test had, 302 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 2: diabetes had to go on a very strict. Diet around 303 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 2: thirty four thirty five, WEEKS i started getting high blood. 304 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 2: PRESSURES i had to test by blood pressure several times a. 305 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 2: DAY i was going in for a non stress test 306 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 2: two times a. Week it was a. 307 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: Lot lorenzo was by her side through. 308 00:16:55,480 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 2: Everything lorenzo was my. Anchor he came to most of the, 309 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 2: appointments drove me. There he stayed with me the entire. 310 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 1: Time denisha Was lorenzo's top. Priority even when he got 311 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: home from work at four in the, morning he got 312 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 1: up two hours later to prepare her breakfast in. 313 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 2: Bed he really was focused on making me happy and 314 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 2: making me. Comfortable lots of, massages lots of. 315 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: Love lorenzo started putting together the, nursery hanging up shelves 316 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 1: and doing the physical labor so That denisha could. Rest 317 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 1: watching him take care of her Gave denisha confidence that 318 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 1: he would be a great. 319 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 2: Dad he was just so gentle with, me AND i 320 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 2: was a. MESS i was crying all the, time and 321 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 2: he made me feel happy and he got me in 322 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 2: a better mood every. TIME i knew that he was 323 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 2: going to be an amazing. 324 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: Father when their daughter was, Born lorenzo was right there 325 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 1: by her, side. 326 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 2: And you got to cut her, cord and he was 327 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 2: the first person she. Touched it was so, amazing and 328 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 2: the nurses try to bring her to, me And i'm, 329 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 2: like please give her to her a. 330 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: Dad it was a magical. Moment looking at her daughter 331 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 1: In lorenzo's, Arms denisha was filled with pride for her. 332 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 2: FAMILY i could not BELIEVE i had my man and my. 333 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 2: BABY i was just so. 334 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 1: Excited finally her fairy tale was coming to. Fruition When 335 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 1: denisia became a, mom she was. Overjoyed Watching lorenzo care 336 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: for her and their daughter felt like a dream come, 337 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 1: true the type of love always wished. For they had 338 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: a baby. Shower lorenzo's bomb and sister traveled in From 339 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: Puerto rico to be. 340 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 2: THERE i got them gifts AND i thanked them for 341 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 2: coming to be with us and celebrate this new journey 342 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 2: and how amazing it is that this is their first 343 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 2: grandchild and, niece and they were really. 344 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: Receptive because of the nature Of lorenzo's, job he didn't 345 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 1: have paternity. 346 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 2: Leave he was only home for a. Week his job 347 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 2: did not want him to be off for that. Long 348 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 2: he demanded that. Week him having to go back to 349 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 2: work was really. HARD i really wanted him. 350 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: There lorenzo worked a, lot but he still did everything 351 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: he could to be a great. Dad when he wasn't, 352 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 1: working he jumped in to Help. 353 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:47,400 Speaker 2: Denisia he was helping me figure out lactation and. Breastfeeding 354 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 2: he was always washing the baby, bottles and when baby 355 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 2: was stressed out and wouldn't sleep and she's screaming and, 356 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 2: screaming he would take. 357 00:19:56,320 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: Over one day In, august when their DAUGHTER i was 358 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:04,199 Speaker 1: three months, Old denisha And lorenzo were spending time. Together 359 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: suddenly he turned to face. Her he looked, anxious out of. 360 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 2: Nowhere he just says that he had to tell me. 361 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: Something Then lorenzo dropped a, bombshell. 362 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 2: And he confessed that our baby was not his first. 363 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 2: Baby he actually had three additional, children a twelve year, 364 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 2: old a ten year, old and an eight year old 365 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 2: with two other. 366 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 1: Women denisha was completely taken. 367 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 2: Aback to say THAT i was shocked is an. Understatement 368 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 2: she was numb and. 369 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: Angry she left the house to get some, space. 370 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 2: And then WHEN i got, BACK i just begged him 371 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,199 Speaker 2: to tell me. Everything what do you mean you're not 372 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 2: a first time? DAD i don't. Understand he said. 373 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: The kids were from two different relationships he'd had in his, 374 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 1: twenties they didn't live in the, area and he wasn't 375 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 1: involved in the kids'. Lives lorenzo tried to explain why 376 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: he'd kept this From. 377 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 2: Denisia he said he didn't want me to. Leave he 378 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 2: thought that IF i knew he had other, CHILDREN i 379 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 2: would not be into him. Anymore and my response was 380 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 2: that was my, Choice so you took that choice away from. 381 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: Me he explained that he'd never been given the opportunity 382 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:25,120 Speaker 1: to parent his older, kids so when he Met, denisha 383 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: it felt like a fresh. 384 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 2: START i asked a, Lot please tell me, everything no more. 385 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 2: Secrets we're in this. Together anything? Else are you? Married, 386 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 2: like what is going? On what about these other? Women 387 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 2: and he assured me nothing. Else there's nothing, Else there's nothing, 388 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 2: else and he is, very very sorry that he did 389 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 2: not tell me about these other. 390 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: Children the lies, stung But lorenzo seemed genuinely. Sorry he 391 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 1: admitted that hiding this was a. Mistake he was apologetic 392 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,439 Speaker 1: and wasn't. DEFENSIVE i really wanted to let it. GO 393 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: i kind of understood where he was coming, from why 394 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 1: he would keep that from. Me she asked if she 395 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: could meet his other, CHILDREN. 396 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 2: I would love. IT i would get. Stacks we would 397 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 2: watch movies and he was really reluctant and he did 398 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 2: not like that, idea and then told me that the 399 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 2: other children's mothers would not be on, board that he 400 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 2: rarely gets to see them, anyways and there was a 401 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 2: lot of animosity between him and the other. 402 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: Mothers denisha believed. Him she was on maternity, leave busy 403 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: with their, newborn and After lorenzo came, clean he showed 404 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: his remorse with his actions doting On denisia and their. 405 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 2: Daughter we had a great time all through my maternity. 406 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 2: Leave he was really, attentive even after this ball that he. 407 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 2: Dropped we try to get past, it AND i thought 408 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 2: it was. 409 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: Doable When lorenzo had to travel for, work he found 410 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: creative ways to stay in. 411 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 2: Touch baby girl AND i would hang out in the living. 412 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,959 Speaker 2: Room we had the nanny cam right next to THE, 413 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 2: tv and it was one of those nanny cams that 414 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 2: you can patch through and talk. 415 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: Through lorenzo would log into the nanny cam so he 416 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: could See denisha and his daughter and talk to them 417 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 1: while they hung out at. 418 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 2: Home and it felt really, good, actually it was really. 419 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 2: Sweet he was watching all the. Time you just pop 420 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 2: in and. WATCH i would hear his voice and he's, 421 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 2: Like daddy's, Girl daddy's here and talk to, baby and 422 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 2: talk to. Me and it just was lovely to see 423 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 2: that he was, connecting even though he had to be. 424 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 1: Away By thanksgiving of that, year their daughter was six months. 425 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: Old denisha And lorenzo were in the car driving to 426 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: her family's house For thanksgiving dinner When denisia saw that 427 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: she had a miscall from an unknown. 428 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 2: Number there's a message from the. CALL i asked him 429 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 2: to play it out loud As i'm, driving and it's 430 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 2: this woman That i've never heard from or heard, of 431 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 2: and she says she's looking for her, Husband. 432 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: Lorenzo denisha nearly swerved off the. 433 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 2: Road my heart, drops And i'm, like what is going? 434 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 2: On just a couple months, ago you told me you 435 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 2: had three, kids and now some stranger is calling my 436 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 2: phone saying that she is looking for her. Husband what is? 437 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: Happening she Expected lorenzo to be panicked and, apologetic but 438 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 1: he was. Unfazed he had an. 439 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 2: Explanation he assured, me that's my Ex she's. Crazy don't believe. 440 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 2: Her please don't let this ruin. Everything we have something. 441 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 2: GOOD i love you this is our. Family don't let 442 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 2: her get in your. 443 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: Head but the whole time she was At thanksgiving, dinner 444 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: the woman's words my Husband lorenzo echoed in her. 445 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 2: Mind but it was maybe girls First, thanksgiving SO i 446 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:40,679 Speaker 2: pretend it like everything was. 447 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,919 Speaker 1: Great she put on a brave face around her. Family 448 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,360 Speaker 1: when they got home that, Night lorenzo tried to Reassure 449 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: denisha that there was nothing going on with his. Ex 450 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: he showed her the text messages between them to prove 451 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 1: there was nothing to worry. 452 00:24:54,640 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 2: ABOUT i saw the text messages and it's it seemed, 453 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 2: legit so it helped me kind of let it. 454 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 1: Go she was still, suspicious but she wanted to Believe. 455 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 1: Lorenzo they had just started a family. 456 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 2: TOGETHER i was fighting for my little. FAMILY i thought 457 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 2: for sure this was my, time And i'm fighting tooth 458 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 2: and nail to keep it as much as. 459 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: Possible one, Night denisha And lorenzo were at home watching 460 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 1: a show, together as they often. 461 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:30,679 Speaker 2: Did Baby girl was in bed. Already it was late at. 462 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 2: Night we were Watching, dexter and he pulled out a. 463 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 1: Ring lorenzo Asked denisha to marry. Him she said. 464 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 2: Yes we took a little happy picture and posted it 465 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 2: on social, media AND i was engaged the next. DAY 466 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 2: i squealed with my mom on the phone and all that. 467 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 2: Stuff but to be, honest in the back of my, 468 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 2: Mind i'm like something felt. 469 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:59,199 Speaker 1: Off she had always imagined that getting engaged would be 470 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: one of the happy moments of her, life but her 471 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: happiness was laced with. 472 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 2: DOUBT i kept thinking about the other mother that called, me, 473 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 2: like where is she in this, story in this. ENGAGEMENT 474 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,239 Speaker 2: i don't know, why BUT i could not get her 475 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 2: out of my. 476 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 1: Mind lorenzo was passionate about his role as a federal, 477 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: agent but as time went, on he wanted to start 478 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 1: a side. 479 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 2: Venture he was really into, arbitration which is like the 480 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 2: middleman when somebody has an argument with another. 481 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:36,719 Speaker 1: Person lorenzo decided to open a consulting business where he 482 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: would use his negotiation and conflict management skills to help 483 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: clients navigate complex custody battles or divorce. Proceedings he Told 484 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:49,479 Speaker 1: denisha that his specialization within the federal government allowed him 485 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:53,400 Speaker 1: to be an. Arbitrator this wasn't her area of, expertise 486 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: so she didn't think much of. It she offered to 487 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 1: use her accounting skills to help get the business set. 488 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 2: UP i helped him draw out like a policy and 489 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 2: how to get paid and all that. 490 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 1: Stuff Then lorenzo started taking on. 491 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:12,719 Speaker 2: Clients his first case was a family here in Southern. 492 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 2: California it was a child custody. Case the mom was 493 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 2: not attentive to the child and the dad really wanted, 494 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 2: custody but they were not seeing eye to, eye so 495 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 2: he was going to see both sides and file. 496 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: Paperwork one, Day denisha was hanging out with some, friends 497 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: which she got a call From. Lorenzo right, away she 498 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 1: could tell something was off with. Him he seemed. Flustered 499 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,120 Speaker 1: he told, HER i. 500 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 2: Have to tell you what happened. Today please don't be. 501 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 2: Mad AND i was, like. Okay what. 502 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: Happened there had been an explosive dispute and the child 503 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,199 Speaker 1: custody case he'd been working. 504 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 2: On the mom was supposed to drop the baby back 505 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 2: off at dad's house and never did So lorenzo went 506 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 2: with dad to go and look for the. Child he. 507 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 2: Said they found mom and, child And lorenzo got out 508 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,239 Speaker 2: to get the, child and the mom fought him and 509 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 2: he held her. Back authorities were called and the mom 510 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,199 Speaker 2: went to the. Hospital when the police. 511 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: Came they Arrested lorenzo and his, client the child's. 512 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,439 Speaker 2: Father So lorenzo and the father went to, jail but 513 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 2: he had failed himself. 514 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: Out he was calling her after posting. Bail denisha was 515 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: stunned and. 516 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 2: Furious this was a client of, yours your first. Case 517 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 2: why were you on the street looking for people and 518 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,919 Speaker 2: grabbing kids out of people's, Arms, like why would you do? 519 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: That lorenzo didn't have much to say in his own. 520 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 2: Defense he, SAID i just got, passionate you, know it 521 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 2: was a. Mess he brushed off. 522 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: The altercation as merely a one. Off he did have 523 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: one major, worry. 524 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 2: Though he said he was concerned because he did not 525 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 2: reveal his arrest to his superior at, work and because 526 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 2: he works FOR, sech a high profiled government. Job that 527 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 2: could be a whole. Thing SO i was, like so 528 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 2: then tell them. 529 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 1: To denisha reporting it seemed like the obvious thing to, 530 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: do But lorenzo told her it wasn't that. EASY a 531 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: little while after, That denisha was home alone with her, 532 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: baby but she heard a commotion outside her front. 533 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 2: Door they are knocking at my neighbors right across from, 534 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 2: me really, loud aggressive knock AND i hear whoever is 535 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 2: asking For. 536 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: Larry the neighbors didn't. Answer denisha heard footsteps walking, away. 537 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 2: And suddenly the knock is on my. DOOR i opened the. 538 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 2: Door these two men in street clothes are claiming to 539 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 2: be THE Us marshals and they're looking For. LARRY i, 540 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 2: EXPLAIN i don't know A, larry and they, said, well 541 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 2: he goes By. 542 00:29:54,000 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 1: Lorenzo tanisha And lorenzo were making things, work raising their 543 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 1: one year old daughter. Together lorenzo's work as an agent 544 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: WITH dcis meant he was often away from. Home one, 545 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: Day danisha was at home with their baby when she 546 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: heard a knock at the. Door when she opened, it 547 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 1: TWO Us marshals were standing on her front. 548 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 2: Porch and they're looking For. Larry AND i, EXPLAINED i 549 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 2: don't know A. 550 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 1: Larry this didn't make. Sense surely the agents had the 551 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: details mixed up and were at the wrong. 552 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 2: House and they, explain, well he goes By. Lorenzo sometimes 553 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 2: my whole body is, HOT i feel like my stomach is. 554 00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: Dropped then one of the marshals pulled out a photo 555 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: of the man they were looking, for. 556 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 2: And they showed me a picture and it's the first 557 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 2: THING i ever. Saw it's his dating profile. PICTURES i was, like, 558 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 2: yeah that is my. Fiance they repeat that they're from 559 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 2: THE Us marshals and he is. Wanted denisha's head was. 560 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: Spinning she needed more. Information what are you talking? 561 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 2: About what is this? About and they, said we can't 562 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 2: really tell you, much but he is wanted for a 563 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 2: weapons charge AND i, said, well that doesn't make. Sense 564 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,959 Speaker 2: he's an agent with our. Government he wears a badge 565 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 2: and a. 566 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: Gun THE Us marshals asked If lorenzo was. Home denisia 567 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 1: said he was, not but they told her they needed 568 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: to come in and search the house. Themselves her heart 569 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: was beating out of her. 570 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 2: Chest i've never been in, trouble not even a little. 571 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 2: BIT i mean a couple of detentions in junior, high 572 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 2: SO i don't know the law like. That SO i 573 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 2: allowed one of them to. LOOK i asked them to 574 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 2: be quiet because baby girl was. 575 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: Sleeping one of the marshals searched the house while the 576 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: other Asked denisia questions About. Lorenzo when they were certain 577 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 1: he wasn't hiding inside the, house they Gave denisiha their 578 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 1: contact information and. Left denisha felt like the ground beneath 579 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 1: her was shifting like she couldn't take a full. 580 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 2: Breath my mind is all over the, place totally, nervous 581 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 2: in a. FOG i was so scared THAT i did something. 582 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 2: WRONG i immediately Called, lorenzo. 583 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: But he already. 584 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 2: Knew he's, like, YEAH i saw it on the nanny. 585 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: Cam he had been watching THE Us marshall search their 586 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: home through the nanny cam he set up in their living. 587 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 2: Room it was as if he were waiting for this to. 588 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 2: Happen why what do you watch at that very? Moment 589 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 2: why now he knew he knew. 590 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: Something as, Always lorenzo was calm and had an. 591 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 2: Explanation don't, worry, babe it's just a. Misunderstanding it's BECAUSE 592 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 2: i didn't tell my boss about the. 593 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: Arrest To, denisha that explanation didn't seem to add. Up 594 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: THE Us marshall said he was wanted for a weapons. 595 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: Charge lorenzo's arrest had been months, ago and he never 596 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 1: made any mention of a. Weapon, plus as part of his, 597 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: job he was required to Carry none of this made. 598 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 2: SENSE i don't know why the government would be this 599 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 2: mad about a stupid. Arrest you got in a fight 600 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 2: like that's not a big. 601 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: Deal lorenzo assured her that he had everything under. 602 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 2: Control this is nothing and he will fix. It don't. 603 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 2: Worry i'm going to clean it. 604 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 1: Up, first there was a lieing about his, kids the 605 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: secrecy around his. Job then there was his, arrest and 606 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 1: now he was wanted BY Us. 607 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 2: MARSHALS i cannot have. THIS i have worked very hard 608 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 2: to have a life of peace and we have a. 609 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 2: Child NOW i cannot HAVE us marshals knocking on my 610 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 2: door asking me where you, Are, like this is. Ridiculous 611 00:33:58,720 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 2: what is? 612 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: Happening even Though lorenzo seemed calm on the, phone it 613 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 1: became clear To denisha that he was hiding something because 614 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: that day she waited for him to come, home but 615 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 1: he never, did not that day or the next, day 616 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 1: and he wasn't answering her. Calls that's when she realized. 617 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 2: He was essentially on the, run trying to avoid THE Us, 618 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 2: marshals try to avoid. ARREST i had no. INFORMATION i 619 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 2: didn't know where he. WAS i didn't know what was. 620 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 2: Happening nothing felt. 621 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 1: Normal lorenzo called her a few. Times he Telled denisha 622 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: he was, safe he was still sorting it all. Out 623 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 1: she kept urging him to just be honest and turn himself. 624 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 2: IN i don't understand why people are looking for you 625 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 2: and why it would be so hard for you to 626 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 2: just go ahead and tell your, boss get your, punishment 627 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:50,359 Speaker 2: and get it over. 628 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 1: With as the days turned into, weeks she clung onto 629 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 1: the idea that he could fix it and come home 630 00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: to their, daughter but his absence Meant denisha was suddenly 631 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 1: responsible for running the. 632 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 2: HOUSEHOLD i hadn't seen. Him he is not helping me 633 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,359 Speaker 2: take care of the. Baby he is not financially there. 634 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 2: Either i'm doing this all by. 635 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 1: Myself the Longer lorenzo was on the, run the More 636 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 1: denisia questioned the stories he'd been telling. 637 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 2: Her it was a balance of really, scared, angry and 638 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 2: missing him all at the same. TIME i was so 639 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 2: anxious and my neck. HURT i was so. 640 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 1: Tense lorenzo had been gone for nearly a. Month denisha 641 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 1: was in. 642 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,799 Speaker 2: DENIAL i have a baby with, him AND i love 643 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 2: him so. MUCH i didn't need. PERFECTION i just wanted 644 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,720 Speaker 2: my family. Together even if it's fake, peace it's peace 645 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 2: THAT i could pretend like nothing else is. 646 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,320 Speaker 1: Wrong when she didn't hear from, him she started checking 647 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 1: online googling his name to see if there was any. 648 00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 1: News that's how she saw the. 649 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 2: Picture they actually posted On. Twitter it's just so weird to, 650 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,360 Speaker 2: me BUT i see my big strong man with. 651 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 1: Handcuffs lorenzo had been. 652 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 2: Arrested they found, him THE Us marshalls found. HIM i 653 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 2: don't know where they found. HIM i always try to 654 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 2: look at the. Background it looks like a, house maybe 655 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 2: a parking. Garage but, yeah they got. 656 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,879 Speaker 1: Him But denisia still didn't know what Exactly lorenzo had. 657 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,560 Speaker 2: Done all of those arrests are public, records SO i 658 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 2: was able to look everything. Up and his charges were child, 659 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:40,279 Speaker 2: endangerment false, imprisonment, conspiracy, violence impersonating a peace. Officer all 660 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 2: of them are, horrible but the one that really stood 661 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 2: out to me was impersonating a peace. 662 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:49,320 Speaker 1: Officer peace officer is a blanket term to describe law enforcement. 663 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 1: Officers it includes the, police, sheriffs and special. Agents seeing 664 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 1: that charge was the first Time denisha Realized lorenzo wasn't 665 00:36:59,040 --> 00:36:59,759 Speaker 1: who he said he. 666 00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 2: Was he was not an agent with the. Government all 667 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 2: of that's made. Up and because he's not an agent 668 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,799 Speaker 2: with the, government he's in, big big trouble because he's 669 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 2: pretending that made more sense to me than just the stupid. 670 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 1: Fight there were no further details in the arrest. Record 671 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 1: what did they mean by child endangerment and false? Imprisonment 672 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 1: in the, moment all she knew for sure was that 673 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 1: he'd been lying to, her and seeing his, charges she 674 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 1: knew that his lies were serious. 675 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:37,839 Speaker 2: Criminal, EMOTIONALLY i was a. MESS i was embarrassed and. 676 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 1: Shocked she struggled to accept that this was really. Happening 677 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,319 Speaker 1: worst of all was accepting that the future they'd been 678 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 1: planning together was. 679 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 2: Gone and this is after these fantasy conversations THAT i 680 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,720 Speaker 2: would have with him getting married and buying a house 681 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 2: and like really living our lives out as a power. 682 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 2: Couple all that went out the. 683 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,359 Speaker 1: Window she was left to raise their daughter on her 684 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 1: own While lorenzo sat in. 685 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 2: Jail i'm still going through with those partum and Then 686 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 2: i'm working full, time trying to keep up with the 687 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:12,439 Speaker 2: bills and life and. Cleaning it's all on. Me it's 688 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 2: all on. Me so because he's in, Prison i'm only 689 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 2: able to talk to him and he calls. 690 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 1: Me the first time they talked on the, Phone lorenzo 691 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,840 Speaker 1: didn't have any. Answers he's stuck by his story that 692 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,319 Speaker 1: he was a federal agent and his arrest was all 693 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 1: a big. Misunderstanding his perspective of the story of how 694 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 1: he got arrested in the first place does not add. 695 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 2: Up so what is happening is? ALL i kept, thinking, 696 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,760 Speaker 2: like what is? Happening AM i ignoring? 697 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 1: Something then one Day denisha got a phone call while 698 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:46,360 Speaker 1: she was at. Work she recognized the caller id it 699 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,319 Speaker 1: Was lorenzo's, ex the woman who'd called On. 700 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 2: THANKSGIVING i answer and she comes in. Hot she comes 701 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 2: in like who is this and she sounds like she's ready. 702 00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 2: FIGHT i, Say I'm lorenzo's. Fiance I'm lorenzo's. 703 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 1: Fiance but the truth Was denisha needed her. Help maybe 704 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,400 Speaker 1: this woman had the answers she. 705 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 2: Didn't she asked, her can you tell me what's going? 706 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 2: On tell me your. Perspective she tells me he was never. 707 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 2: Working every time he was not at my, house he 708 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,920 Speaker 2: was at her. House that he is sleeping around AND 709 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 2: i need to get. Tested it's really. 710 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 1: Serious it turned out they weren't the only two. Women 711 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 1: lorenzo had been in multiple relationships at the same, time 712 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 1: and he made all of the women he was with 713 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,879 Speaker 1: believe they were the only. One but that wasn't even 714 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,919 Speaker 1: the worst of. It the woman on the phone said 715 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:46,320 Speaker 1: That lorenzo had gotten another woman pregnant around this same 716 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 1: time That denisia had been pregnant with their. Daughter and 717 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:54,480 Speaker 1: this other woman apparently lived In denisha's, neighborhood. 718 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,520 Speaker 2: And she said she lived just next door and has 719 00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:58,960 Speaker 2: a baby around the same age as my. 720 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,360 Speaker 1: Baby and this was on top of the three secret 721 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 1: children he had before he Met. Denisia she recognized the 722 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:11,799 Speaker 1: pain in this woman's, voice and she believed Her lorenzo 723 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 1: had deceived them. Both later that same, Day lorenzo Called 724 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 1: denisia from. Prison she answered on the first, ring. 725 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 2: AND i let them have it for the first time 726 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 2: since all of this has been going. On you're. TRASH 727 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,319 Speaker 2: i don't trust anything you're. Saying i'm going to get full. 728 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,759 Speaker 2: CUSTODY i don't want to ever see you. Again we're 729 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 2: not getting over. This we're. Done AND i don't say 730 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:37,799 Speaker 2: things UNLESS i meet them AND i meant. 731 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:39,799 Speaker 1: Them she hung up the. 732 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,719 Speaker 2: PHONE i was sad That i'm losing WHAT i really, 733 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:46,240 Speaker 2: wanted but Also i'm in a space WHERE i cannot 734 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:50,840 Speaker 2: continue to pretend like everything's. Okay this is not, okay 735 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:51,239 Speaker 2: it's not. 736 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,879 Speaker 1: Normal the man she loved felt more like a. 737 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,919 Speaker 2: Phantom, now what CAN i say is even? Real did 738 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,960 Speaker 2: he love? Me why? Me why did you choose? 739 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 1: Me denisha kept in touch With lorenzo's. Mom one, day 740 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,840 Speaker 1: when they were out to, lunch his mom said something 741 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 1: that exposed yet another. 742 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,799 Speaker 2: LIE i asked his mom How Puerto rico was and 743 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 2: she says that she's never been. There not only were 744 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 2: they not, there but he was not born In Puerto, 745 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:24,440 Speaker 2: Rico so that was a. Lie he was born In 746 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 2: La he was Named. 747 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 1: Larry Before lorenzo's, arrest she'd seen a copy of his 748 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 1: birth certificate. 749 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,960 Speaker 2: Which showed me that he was born In Puerto rico 750 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 2: and his name Was. LORENZO i saw the birth, certificate 751 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:38,759 Speaker 2: it Said Puerto. 752 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,759 Speaker 1: Rico but that document must have been. 753 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:47,440 Speaker 2: Forged so who doctored this? Document that's so weird and 754 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:48,320 Speaker 2: why lie about? 755 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:54,399 Speaker 1: That hearing this reveal Threw denisha. Off she was too 756 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,319 Speaker 1: flustered to ask his mom any follow up questions in the, 757 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 1: moment but, later when she was, alone she realized she 758 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,920 Speaker 1: needed more. Answers she didn't even know Who lorenzo, was 759 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:06,880 Speaker 1: and she wanted to find. 760 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:11,080 Speaker 2: Out NOW i Know larry is officially who he is 761 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,120 Speaker 2: and born In LA i was able to get deeper 762 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 2: and look for more. 763 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 1: Receipts she scoured The internet for everything she could find 764 00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:23,200 Speaker 1: About lorenzo Aka. Larry her search for the truth took. 765 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 1: Years we want to walk you Through lorenzo's criminal, past 766 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:31,440 Speaker 1: combining What denisha and our team has found. Out his 767 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,799 Speaker 1: given name at birth Was Larry Cornell Diamond. Junior in, 768 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,319 Speaker 1: total he had six arrests and. Convictions we're going to 769 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,040 Speaker 1: detail a few of. Them it all started in two 770 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,279 Speaker 1: thousand In Los. Angeles larry was twenty two at the. 771 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 1: Time he and his Friend Robert hun showed up unannounced 772 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 1: at a woman's. Apartment they knocked on her door and 773 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 1: told her that they WERE fbi. Agents they said that 774 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,719 Speaker 1: they needed to search her. Home they were armed and 775 00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:01,480 Speaker 1: she let them. In but they WEREN'T fbi. Agents they 776 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:05,400 Speaker 1: were bounty. Hunters The Los Angeles times reported on the. 777 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,760 Speaker 1: Crime here's part of that reporting read by a voice. 778 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,440 Speaker 3: Actor huon And diamond proclaimed to be affiliated with a 779 00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:16,040 Speaker 3: non existent branch of THE. Fbi heon And diamond created 780 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,960 Speaker 3: a fake search warrant and claimed they WERE fbi agents 781 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,120 Speaker 3: when they made their way through a woman's sam pager 782 00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:25,680 Speaker 3: apartment searching for stolen. Computers both men were wearing holstered 783 00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:29,880 Speaker 3: semi automatic guns and silver badges that they claimed WERE fbi. 784 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:35,040 Speaker 1: Badges that was the start of a, pattern an almost 785 00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:41,000 Speaker 1: pathological scheme of impersonating authority LIKE, FBI, cia or police 786 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:45,799 Speaker 1: as means of. Extortion after he was, Released larry went 787 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,640 Speaker 1: right back to. It in two thousand and, three he 788 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,680 Speaker 1: walked into a hardware store where he intended to carry 789 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 1: out his next. Crime The District attorney's office In Central 790 00:43:56,040 --> 00:44:00,120 Speaker 1: california released a statement explaining what happened that. Day he'd 791 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:01,440 Speaker 1: had a voice actor read part of. 792 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,840 Speaker 4: It diamond went to the hardware company dressed like a 793 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 4: law enforcement. Officer he was wearing all, black displaying a, 794 00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:12,000 Speaker 4: badge and claimed that he was AN fbi agent with 795 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,400 Speaker 4: The American. Consulate he then threatened to arrest the owner 796 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:19,480 Speaker 4: unless the owner paid ten thousand dollars directly To. 797 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:24,840 Speaker 1: Diamond for that, offense he served a four year prison. 798 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:32,719 Speaker 1: Sentence this was so much darker Than denisia. Imagined lorenzo 799 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,120 Speaker 1: wasn't just lying about his. Identity he was threatening and 800 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:40,200 Speaker 1: exploiting innocent. People he would show up armed and in, 801 00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:45,080 Speaker 1: disguise then demand money or. Valuables he abused authority he 802 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,759 Speaker 1: didn't even, have and he did that over and over 803 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:54,000 Speaker 1: again for his entire adult. Life lorenzo wasn't just unfaithful or. 804 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:59,440 Speaker 1: Delusional he was. Dangerous In september of twenty, sixteen he 805 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:03,719 Speaker 1: legally changed his name To Lorenzo Sanchez. Diamond the very next, 806 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:08,160 Speaker 1: week he was arrested, again this time for possession of a. 807 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,919 Speaker 1: Firearm denisha poured over all of these. 808 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:15,839 Speaker 2: Documents i'm reading the whole, thing and they catch him 809 00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:19,160 Speaker 2: at The denny's in his military gear with guns in his, 810 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:20,239 Speaker 2: trunk and he gets. 811 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:24,560 Speaker 1: Arrested none of his arrests or prison sentences deterred. Him 812 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,800 Speaker 1: each time he was, released he picked up where he 813 00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 1: left off and continued his impersonation Con even After denisha 814 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,200 Speaker 1: ended things With lorenzo and he was imprisoned for the 815 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:40,000 Speaker 1: sixth time in twenty twenty, three he would insist that 816 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:43,400 Speaker 1: he was always a federal. Agent at least that's what 817 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,479 Speaker 1: he Told, denisha but he asked her not to come 818 00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,960 Speaker 1: to his sentencing. Hearing there he pled guilty to all 819 00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:53,040 Speaker 1: the counts he was. Facing he was sentenced to another 820 00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:56,600 Speaker 1: eighteen months in. Prison denisha thought that would be the 821 00:45:56,719 --> 00:46:00,000 Speaker 1: end of the, story but While lorenzo was behind, bars 822 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:01,440 Speaker 1: she got a strange. 823 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:06,240 Speaker 2: EMAIL i got a mysterious email from A Bubba. Walker 824 00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,960 Speaker 2: never heard of this. Person they introduced themselves as A cia, 825 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:15,400 Speaker 2: agent and then there's A mp three voicemail in. It 826 00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:19,200 Speaker 2: it was a computerized female. Voice the sender. 827 00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:22,560 Speaker 1: Claimed to be an employee at THE, cia Singing lorenzo's 828 00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:26,319 Speaker 1: praises for his invaluable efforts in the Global war on. 829 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:30,399 Speaker 1: Terrorism they Said lorenzo was a good man with more 830 00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:31,279 Speaker 1: intelligence than. 831 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:36,160 Speaker 2: Most the recording just was Like Lorenzo sanchez is a 832 00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:40,160 Speaker 2: great person and he's a great stand up, citizen and 833 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:43,120 Speaker 2: THAT i should trust, it and also said not to 834 00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,040 Speaker 2: tell anybody about this message and to destroy the. Message 835 00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:52,840 Speaker 2: AFTER i got, IT i told. Everybody my sister was, like, 836 00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:54,959 Speaker 2: WELL i can say a lot of bad things about 837 00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:56,880 Speaker 2: this man by people go through the ends of the 838 00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:00,839 Speaker 2: earth to fake A cia call to get to believe his, 839 00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:04,960 Speaker 2: Bullshit like this is so, stupid it was. 840 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:10,919 Speaker 1: Laughable she no longer believed Anything lorenzo. Said after nine 841 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:15,640 Speaker 1: months behind, Bars lorenzo was released on good. Behavior even 842 00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:19,480 Speaker 1: though things were over between, them she Let lorenzo FaceTime 843 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:23,959 Speaker 1: their daughter. Occasionally on one of those, Calls lorenzo said 844 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:24,840 Speaker 1: he had some grave. 845 00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:29,640 Speaker 2: News that's when he revealed he had. CANCER i thought 846 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:33,000 Speaker 2: it was another, tactic another, lie maybe to get my 847 00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,319 Speaker 2: walls down, again to see if he can get back 848 00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:39,160 Speaker 2: into my good. Graces so she told, him you're not 849 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,000 Speaker 2: invited in my home or my heart. Anymore if you're, 850 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:43,759 Speaker 2: SICK i help you still better. 851 00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,879 Speaker 1: Soon but the next time they had a video, Call 852 00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,880 Speaker 1: denisha noticed that the room he was calling from was. 853 00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:53,800 Speaker 1: Different he was in the, hospital and he Looked. Gaune 854 00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,520 Speaker 1: he'd lied about so, much but this time he was 855 00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:57,960 Speaker 1: telling the. 856 00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,799 Speaker 2: Truth he has stage four colon. Cancer he's very. 857 00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:06,000 Speaker 1: Sick lorenzo's health only declined from. There he went into. 858 00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:09,600 Speaker 1: Hospice denisha decided to visit him and say. 859 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:13,600 Speaker 2: Goodbye he looks really. Frail you could push him over 860 00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:14,120 Speaker 2: with just the. 861 00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:17,880 Speaker 1: Breath seeing him at the end of his life brought up, 862 00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:19,480 Speaker 1: overwhelming conflicting. 863 00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:23,720 Speaker 2: Emotions before all the things that went, wrong he showed 864 00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,600 Speaker 2: me love like no one else had showed me before. 865 00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:31,440 Speaker 2: THIS i felt, RESPECTED i felt loved and desired having 866 00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:36,200 Speaker 2: him destroy my, life and now he was. Dying she 867 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:41,040 Speaker 2: walked over to his. BEDSIDE i was so. Sad it 868 00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,840 Speaker 2: was so sad to. SEE i never wished this for. 869 00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:49,840 Speaker 2: ANYONE i held his hand and told HIM i forgave, 870 00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,440 Speaker 2: him and THAT i got, this AND i will take 871 00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:57,840 Speaker 2: care of our, daughter and you can let. Go she 872 00:48:58,000 --> 00:48:58,360 Speaker 2: left his. 873 00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:04,800 Speaker 1: Room in forty eight, Hours lorenzo passed. Away denisia reached 874 00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:08,200 Speaker 1: out to us a few months. Later she's still processing the. 875 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:13,239 Speaker 2: Loss it's unending, grief grieving the life THAT i THOUGHT i, 876 00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:17,919 Speaker 2: had the, husband the, baby the, house all of those, 877 00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,719 Speaker 2: things had it for so, little such a little. Time 878 00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:25,560 Speaker 2: i'm grieving that all the. Time i'm grieving the single 879 00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:30,880 Speaker 2: motherhood of it, all AND i a grieve for my. 880 00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,920 Speaker 1: Baby that grief is muddied by. 881 00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:38,720 Speaker 2: Confusion it's really hard to determine who this person. 882 00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:44,960 Speaker 1: Was lorenzo's obituary describes him as a, doctor, author, poet 883 00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:49,120 Speaker 1: and rapper who loved macaroni and cheese and Watching. Jeopardy 884 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,960 Speaker 1: His LinkedIn profile describes him as a legal expert and 885 00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:58,759 Speaker 1: human rights. Consultant lorenzo tried on so many disguises so 886 00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:04,720 Speaker 1: many prestigious, career, doctor, lawyer federal. Agent denisia knows now 887 00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:08,759 Speaker 1: he wasn't any of those. Things she's left wondering if 888 00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:10,360 Speaker 1: anything he ever told her was. 889 00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:14,160 Speaker 2: REAL i still am not one hundred percent sure what 890 00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:14,600 Speaker 2: the truth. 891 00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:19,200 Speaker 1: Is denisia has had to make peace with the confusion 892 00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:23,840 Speaker 1: and Grief lorenzo left. Behind she hasn't been in contact 893 00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:27,839 Speaker 1: with the other Women lorenzo deceived for her reaching out 894 00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:29,719 Speaker 1: with reopen. Wounds she is trying to. 895 00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:33,439 Speaker 2: Heal my focus is on my baby and doing my job. 896 00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:36,120 Speaker 1: Well she has built an impressive. 897 00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:40,120 Speaker 2: Career i'm making six figures at a nonprofit as the accounting. 898 00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:44,000 Speaker 2: Manager i'm so proud of me to be in this. 899 00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:45,839 Speaker 2: ROLE i worked hard to get. 900 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:49,719 Speaker 1: Here she's created a safe and loving home where her 901 00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:53,680 Speaker 1: daughter gets to express herself. Authentically baby girl is. 902 00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:57,840 Speaker 2: Thriving she loves school and it's already time to enroll 903 00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:04,320 Speaker 2: her in regular elementary. School and that's, emotional and she loves, 904 00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:05,760 Speaker 2: dancing loves. 905 00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:09,680 Speaker 1: Ballet these, Days denisius used her own strength. 906 00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:13,880 Speaker 2: Clearly i'm resilient BECAUSE i struggle with depression, anxiety but 907 00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,560 Speaker 2: this did not strike. ME i am still Going i'm 908 00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,239 Speaker 2: still standing strong And i'm going to be. 909 00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:25,400 Speaker 1: Fine we end every weekly episode with the same, question 910 00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:27,160 Speaker 1: why do you want to share your? 911 00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:33,279 Speaker 2: STORY i cycle through grief on a daily. BASIS i 912 00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:37,400 Speaker 2: feel very lonely having experienced this and not having a 913 00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,919 Speaker 2: lot of people that understand Where i'm, at that wore 914 00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:43,560 Speaker 2: these same shoes and had the same. Thoughts SO i 915 00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:48,000 Speaker 2: really wanted to find my, people tell other people they're not, 916 00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:51,680 Speaker 2: alone and to just know that somebody knows What i'm going. 917 00:51:51,719 --> 00:52:01,000 Speaker 1: Through on the next episode of The Tray, Weekly. 918 00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,839 Speaker 5: You've got to arrest him BECAUSE i don't know where 919 00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:08,880 Speaker 5: this is going to. 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