WEBVTT - 4_8_Draft Show.mp3 0:00:03.720 --> 0:00:08.880 Is the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war room 0:00:09.000 --> 0:00:12.639 for insider news and draft analysis from deep within the 0:00:12.680 --> 0:00:15.960 confines of Cowboys headquarters at the Star Infrasco. 0:00:16.720 --> 0:00:23.919 And now your host, Kyle Yeomans. 0:00:24.120 --> 0:00:28.720 Today is Tuesday, April eighth, twenty twenty five, and we 0:00:28.800 --> 0:00:33.560 are sixteen days away from the NFL Draft in Green Bay, Wisconsin. 0:00:33.600 --> 0:00:36.040 Welcome into the Draft Show, presented by Miller Light, the 0:00:36.159 --> 0:00:40.800 only beer of the Dallas Cowboys. It's Miller time alongside 0:00:40.840 --> 0:00:44.360 Nick Harris. Brian brought us Tommy yarsh Votch Lombardy with 0:00:44.520 --> 0:00:47.280 Jasmine Marshall running everything in the back of Kyle Yeomans. 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:48.280 Glad you're with us. 0:00:48.840 --> 0:00:51.880 All right, gentlemen, we're just over two weeks out. Thirty 0:00:51.960 --> 0:00:53.840 visits are now in the rearview mirror. There's been a 0:00:53.880 --> 0:00:58.360 lot of reported names kind of circling around Cowboys camp 0:00:58.400 --> 0:01:01.120 and who they've been talking to. Brian, let's get right 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:05.279 into it. What does the list and some of the names. 0:01:04.959 --> 0:01:05.560 Mean to you? 0:01:06.160 --> 0:01:10.080 Well, you know, the thirty visits are always important because 0:01:10.480 --> 0:01:15.080 this is really the first opportunity for Jerry and Steven. 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:18.160 They do go to the combine, they do see the workouts. 0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:21.880 They are a part of all that, but they're not 0:01:22.000 --> 0:01:24.360 part of all the interviews and stuff like that. So 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:27.240 the thirty visits are the opportunity for Jerry and Steven 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:29.959 to kind of sit down with these kids and have 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:32.280 a little bit of an understanding of maybe how what 0:01:32.440 --> 0:01:34.720 makes them tick. One of my favorite things is when 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:37.000 these kids get pictures with Jerry in his office. I 0:01:37.000 --> 0:01:39.320 think that's the neatest thing in the world. And whether 0:01:39.360 --> 0:01:42.160 they get selected here or not, it's something they'll always remember. 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:45.800 Just having a few moments with him is always something 0:01:45.880 --> 0:01:48.520 kind of fun. But yeah, it's a good opportunity, and 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:52.040 then it also allows them to kind of maybe go 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:54.560 into a little more in depth. You know, at the combine, 0:01:54.600 --> 0:01:57.160 you have a limited amount of time you could talk 0:01:57.200 --> 0:01:59.880 to these people and maybe you want to put them 0:01:59.880 --> 0:02:01.400 on board, Maybe you want to put them in a 0:02:01.400 --> 0:02:03.520 group setting. You know, maybe you want to have some 0:02:03.560 --> 0:02:06.160 of your own players meet with them, you know, with 0:02:06.600 --> 0:02:10.560 a Dak Prescott and others to come over and say 0:02:10.600 --> 0:02:16.160 hello and get an opportunity. So it's still about fact finding, 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:20.440 and it's just done more on a personal level. And so, 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:23.800 you know, those things are always important because when you 0:02:23.880 --> 0:02:26.800 when it comes down to it, the familiarity that Jerry 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:29.440 and Steven have with these players, I think goes a 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:31.280 long way to seeing who gets drafted. 0:02:32.639 --> 0:02:34.240 What do you think, Nick, Just based off of the 0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:35.240 names that you've seen out. 0:02:35.160 --> 0:02:37.040 There, Yeah, we can run through the names just Yeah, 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:40.280 with fifteen of the thirty have been reported, we can 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:43.360 go with Ohio State running back travy On Henderson, Ohio 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:46.600 State receiver in Mecha Buca, Ohio State running back, when 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:50.320 Shawn Judkins, Texas offensive lineman, Kelvin Banks, Texas defensive tackle, 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:53.919 Alfred Collins, Texas safety, Andrew mccooba, Virginia Tech running back 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:57.080 by shille Tutton Ole, miss defensive tackle, Walls for Nolan, 0:02:57.120 --> 0:03:00.359 Texas A and M defensive and Shamar Stewart Tennessee defensive 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:02.919 en James Pierce Junior Missouri wide receiver Luther burd In 0:03:02.960 --> 0:03:07.600 the third, East Carolina corner Savon Revel which I've learned 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:12.160 Savan courtesy of Tommy across from me. It's Savon very 0:03:12.280 --> 0:03:16.160 very strange, Arizona offensive line and Jonas Sava and Naia 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:20.160 Arizona White wide receiver, Teteroa McMillan, and North Carolina running 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:22.960 back of Marion Hampton. But yeah, from the names, I 0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:25.560 mean you're you're looking at the cowboys taking a look 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:28.120 at multiple different positions in these first couple of rounds. 0:03:28.120 --> 0:03:30.239 Like all of those guys that I mentioned are guys 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:32.000 you would take on either Day one or Day two, 0:03:32.440 --> 0:03:35.360 and uh, the majority are our first round type options. 0:03:35.400 --> 0:03:38.600 I mean you look at uh, you look at Shamar Stewart. 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:39.800 I mean, I don't think that's gonna be a guy 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:42.000 that Sarah forty four. You look at a Marion Hampton, 0:03:42.080 --> 0:03:43.800 that's probably not a guy that's Sarah at forty four. 0:03:44.040 --> 0:03:45.800 Ashon GenZ was one of the Dallas Day guys that 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:47.360 they brought in. That's not gonna be a guy that's 0:03:47.360 --> 0:03:49.160 Sarah forty four. And then there's a lot of second 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:52.040 round options. You know, Trevion Henderson is a mecha buga 0:03:52.040 --> 0:03:53.520 gonna slide, you know. Is that a guy you would 0:03:53.560 --> 0:03:55.080 hope would be there? Tuttan is going to be there 0:03:55.080 --> 0:03:58.040 in round two, round three. Uh, Savon Revel that's another 0:03:58.080 --> 0:04:00.800 guy we've talked a lot about there. Keeping their options 0:04:00.800 --> 0:04:03.040 open as far as position groups on these first two days, 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:06.000 and I think they're just kind of kind of pick 0:04:06.000 --> 0:04:08.320 how the board falls, and you know, Schottenheimer talked about 0:04:08.320 --> 0:04:10.640 it at the league meetings last week in Florida. He's like, 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:12.520 we're trying to set up set ourselves up in a 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:14.920 position where we can take the best player available. And 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:17.640 you know, they're they're looking at multiple different position groups. 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:19.119 And you know, that would make sense to a certain 0:04:19.160 --> 0:04:22.240 extent because I think on the first two days they 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:24.000 have to come away with a receiver in a corner. 0:04:24.120 --> 0:04:26.360 Nevertheless, but the board might fall that way. 0:04:26.560 --> 0:04:28.520 But I'll say this though, right, what about this safety? 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:31.400 Like like that's the that's that one blinking light that's 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:33.200 just on there. Like we we we've been talking about 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:36.600 running backs for months. Yeah, wiree receivers, one tax, you know, linebacker, 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:39.080 you know we what that one safety mean? You know, 0:04:39.400 --> 0:04:40.320 what's he doing there? 0:04:40.360 --> 0:04:42.240 And is there other saft Andrew mccob be doing And 0:04:42.440 --> 0:04:44.440 is there other safeties that we don't know about that 0:04:44.440 --> 0:04:47.520 they're potentially looking at too. Yeah, you know, having some 0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:49.840 guys that they brought in, you know, it was like 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:53.080 what fifteen other names potentially that they could have brought 0:04:53.080 --> 0:04:55.640 in then, and maybe there's other safeties there. I think 0:04:55.640 --> 0:04:56.920 it's a fascinating question. 0:04:57.120 --> 0:04:59.760 Having having five running backs mean all right, so we 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:02.440 running back business. Whether it's early or whether. 0:05:02.240 --> 0:05:05.280 They were last year too, they loved a lot of us. 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:08.360 But look that that that means we're in the running 0:05:08.360 --> 0:05:11.080 back business. We're in the wide receiver business. But they 0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:13.039 may not be in the safety business. But they're in 0:05:13.240 --> 0:05:14.440 Andrew mccooba business. 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:15.360 What that means? 0:05:15.680 --> 0:05:18.680 So now, so now I just want to ask, sure, Tommy, 0:05:18.839 --> 0:05:20.839 Now I want to ask where you take this guy. 0:05:21.200 --> 0:05:23.800 We have a general idea about where all these guys go. 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:26.320 But when I see mox, I see nonsense like have 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:29.200 him in the third he's he's he's safety one for me. 0:05:29.440 --> 0:05:31.680 The cowboys ain't gotta bleed what I believe. But he 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:33.800 could go forty four, he could go third or something 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:34.040 like that. 0:05:34.080 --> 0:05:34.599 Where does he go? 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:35.279 Tom So? 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:35.919 Two things? 0:05:36.000 --> 0:05:39.320 One, you know, thirty visits are just to clarify it's 0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:42.840 not always necessarily an indicator of interest, right, It's it's 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:44.120 a lot of guys that there are. 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:47.480 Interesting, but not necessarily. They obviously can't pick all thirty guys. 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:49.760 Sure, so that's something to remember. But you do bring 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:51.960 up a good point because mc cuba is an interesting one. 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:55.080 My question to the group would be would you play 0:05:55.160 --> 0:05:56.040 mccouba Nickel. 0:05:56.560 --> 0:05:58.480 Yeah, that's that's something I wanted to bring up too. 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:01.200 I would really think about it, because if that's the case, 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:02.920 then I think you make a case for him in 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:03.520 the second round. 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:05.520 I think he's got the coverability to play Nickel. 0:06:05.640 --> 0:06:07.760 I think he's the second round player regardless of where 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:10.839 you're playing. So I don't see any I don't see 0:06:10.839 --> 0:06:13.960 any real real weakness to his game. People will talk 0:06:13.960 --> 0:06:17.200 about his six footies one eighty six. But I'm watching 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:19.600 I'm watching some tape the other night and he happens 0:06:19.640 --> 0:06:21.520 to show up. I'm watching A and M or something. 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:24.600 I'm watching somebody, and he just keeps showing up, showing up, 0:06:24.640 --> 0:06:28.159 showing up. Then you watch the playoff games, he's showing up, 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:31.560 showing up, showing up. So you know, to me, I think, yeah, 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:34.040 I think me personally, I think he have to take 0:06:34.120 --> 0:06:36.800 him at forty four. If you want this player, you 0:06:36.839 --> 0:06:38.400 have to I don't think he gets to in the 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:40.800 third round. I mean, and there's some good safeties on 0:06:40.839 --> 0:06:42.560 the on the board, but you look at all the 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:45.120 things that he can do and we all know that. Yeah, 0:06:45.120 --> 0:06:46.800 you talk about if you're if you're talking about playing 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:49.440 Mitt Nickel. You're telling me right there, you think he 0:06:49.480 --> 0:06:51.520 can cover. You think that he's one of the best 0:06:51.560 --> 0:06:54.599 guys when it comes to carrying routes all over the field. 0:06:55.200 --> 0:06:58.200 You know that if you think that, you got to 0:06:58.240 --> 0:07:00.960 take this guy at forty four. If that's the case. 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:02.880 And I think he's great in coverage too. When you 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:06.119 look at his ability and his strong suits, coverage, change 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:10.120 of direction, football IQ, all of that stuff jumps off 0:07:10.160 --> 0:07:12.960 the page. It's really the size and it's the tackling 0:07:13.000 --> 0:07:15.080 that I kind of had a little bit of a 0:07:15.160 --> 0:07:17.320 question mark over. I think the tackling was mostly just 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:20.960 misstackles at times when he's trying to be over aggressive pff. 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:24.080 Adam logged his thirteen miss tackles this past year, which 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:26.800 that's a significant number. But you're trying to play downhill 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:29.040 and you're trying to do too much. I think moving 0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:31.160 him to Nickel will be fine. I think it would 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:33.120 be fine. I think he'd be fine as a safety 0:07:33.160 --> 0:07:33.520 as well. 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:35.040 He's not the longest in the world. 0:07:35.120 --> 0:07:37.640 I mean, his wingspan is more so in the negative 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:41.520 negative category. He is an undersized safety quote unquote. It 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:43.560 would make sense. I would like to see. I would 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:45.480 like to see the idea of him getting brought up 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:47.200 to a Nickel position. 0:07:47.440 --> 0:07:50.600 Yeah, I think for tackling concerns. Go watch the Michigan tape. 0:07:50.760 --> 0:07:54.240 Yeah, okay, I saw him against Georgia Arkansas where he 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:55.960 really he struggled against Arkansas. 0:07:56.160 --> 0:07:58.360 He does miss but it's because in terms of tackling, 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:00.720 flying at you because he wants to take your head off. 0:08:00.760 --> 0:08:03.160 Yeah, And if that's what we got, I'm okay, you're 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:04.320 fine with that. I'm good with that. 0:08:04.640 --> 0:08:06.920 You kind of have that, and Donovan Wilson already do 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:07.720 you do. 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:10.320 But if we're talking about playing with you that Donovan 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:14.440 Wilson covers, we're. 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:15.000 Talking about it. 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:22.080 If we're talking about Nickel, then then that's fine. 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:23.240 What's wrong with Jacksonville. 0:08:23.800 --> 0:08:26.680 Ain't wrong with Jacksonville, just not here or not Hell. 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:27.680 He can go to the in and that was where 0:08:27.680 --> 0:08:29.240 if you want to go. But I think Ivanrew mccoob 0:08:29.320 --> 0:08:31.080 is on his team. I don't know if I share 0:08:31.120 --> 0:08:34.040 the idea with the Table that he's a possible Nickel guy. 0:08:34.040 --> 0:08:35.559 I don't know if I would like him at full time. 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:38.000 And I think he'll be a cool sometimes nickel. I 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:40.400 like when he's just kind of floating around just looking 0:08:40.640 --> 0:08:42.920 looking for nonsense, and the ball just kind of flows 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:44.360 to him. I think that's kind of where he's at 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:44.839 his best. 0:08:45.040 --> 0:08:45.199 Now. 0:08:45.280 --> 0:08:46.760 Sure, if you want to put him in there to 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:48.840 kind of you know, because he's not the biggest guy 0:08:48.840 --> 0:08:50.080 in the world, you want to put him in nickel 0:08:50.120 --> 0:08:51.280 to kind of help him out a little bit. 0:08:51.320 --> 0:08:54.840 I mean, that's cool. But just when he was floating and. 0:08:54.240 --> 0:08:56.679 Roaming and just doing all types of different things, that's 0:08:56.679 --> 0:08:57.480 why I like him the best. 0:08:57.480 --> 0:08:59.320 He get picks down and he gets picks back. 0:08:59.520 --> 0:09:01.080 You know what I'm saying. He's a pick getting guy. 0:09:01.120 --> 0:09:02.760 So I wouldn't want to just leave him there. To 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:05.959 my DONOVD Wilson point, uh we look, man shouts that 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:08.560 Donald Wilson man. You know he's he's he's got fans. 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:11.160 I'm a fan of him also. But if there was 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:14.800 a glaring wart in his game, it'll be coveraged. So 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:16.760 I would have to wonder, we got a new DC 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:19.000 up in here, brand new staff up here. I want 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:20.679 if they looked at that and said, hey, and if 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:22.760 Andrew mccoob is here, if you had to pick between 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:24.600 who's the better safety guy, I think they would probably 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:26.760 pick mccooby, but we got dudes on his team that 0:09:26.760 --> 0:09:27.480 I think better. 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:29.000 I would real quick. 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:32.480 I would argue that playing mccooba at nickel would give 0:09:32.520 --> 0:09:34.240 him a chance to cover more of the field I 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:36.320 think than if you put him in safety, sure could 0:09:36.520 --> 0:09:39.559 and that that that would be in terms of taking 0:09:39.600 --> 0:09:41.360 the ball away and flying all over the place. I 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:43.400 think that would be a better spot for him, kind 0:09:43.400 --> 0:09:45.800 of like how he's sort of lined up there sure 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:46.360 in that clip. 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:48.160 Yeah, if you're no, no problem, if you're going to 0:09:48.240 --> 0:09:52.520 draft a Nickel, just draft Harriston. Yeah, yeah, that's what 0:09:52.559 --> 0:09:54.199 I'm saying. I mean, if you're if you're if you're 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:56.920 going into this with the plan of spending a pick 0:09:56.960 --> 0:09:59.000 on a Nickel in forty four, and I understand what 0:09:59.000 --> 0:10:01.760 you're saying about the safe you and I agree. I mean, 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:03.640 I think this kid's a hell of a player. I think, 0:10:03.840 --> 0:10:06.960 you know. I was asked on Twitter this morning, like 0:10:07.040 --> 0:10:10.520 the value of the most undervalued player, and I was 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:12.680 thinking about him, and I was thinking about my my 0:10:12.840 --> 0:10:15.480 l s U tight end Mason Taylor. Taylor, let's think 0:10:15.520 --> 0:10:17.439 about those two guys. I mean, you don't nearly hear 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:20.720 enough about both those guys, and Macooba might be the 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:23.280 most undervalue if you had to, if you had a 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:30.640 Nick Mcooba, say Amos or Henderson ole. 0:10:30.480 --> 0:10:32.560 Miss at forty four? Yeah, I go Henderson. 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:35.960 Is it just because of the absolute need a running back? Uh? 0:10:36.040 --> 0:10:37.600 No, Henderson's my RB two. 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:39.840 I think the guy that can play all three downs, 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:41.680 he's going to be a captain for you, He's going 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:42.600 to play a long time. 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:43.120 Uh. 0:10:43.320 --> 0:10:46.640 And he's still relatively low on mileage. I'm I'm a 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:47.439 big Henderson guy. 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:52.560 You guys, I would put what did you do at twelve? Yeah, 0:10:52.559 --> 0:10:53.360 that's a good question. 0:10:53.600 --> 0:10:56.280 You took well, I took the wider receiver out of it. 0:10:56.400 --> 0:10:58.800 Okay, okay, So I gave you, I gave. 0:10:58.640 --> 0:11:02.679 You, I gave you Macouba, I gave you Amos the 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:05.360 corner from ole Miss, and I gave you the running 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:07.040 back from Ohio State. 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:08.079 To take Henderson too. 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:10.720 I'm taking the safety in that situation. I think I 0:11:10.720 --> 0:11:13.360 think safety is rare, and I think safeties that get 0:11:13.360 --> 0:11:15.400 picks can be rare. And I think he has a 0:11:15.400 --> 0:11:16.920 really good feel to get picks. I think when you 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:18.520 find a dude that can get now, there's a ton 0:11:18.559 --> 0:11:20.480 of running backs here, and Nick Harris put it on 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:22.160 my mind a long time ago, like, hey man, some 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:24.280 running backs in the third, fourth, fifth, and sixth year 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:26.280 al like, And when he said that, we just started 0:11:26.320 --> 0:11:28.240 watching film and I'm with him. There's a ton of 0:11:28.280 --> 0:11:30.480 running backs here. But I think when you have a safety, 0:11:30.520 --> 0:11:33.560 that can really change what defense looks like like that, 0:11:33.679 --> 0:11:34.720 I'm going with a safety plus. 0:11:34.840 --> 0:11:36.560 Just on my board, I just got in the highest. 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:38.960 I have Amos as the highest out of those three, 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:40.000 but it's not by much. 0:11:40.000 --> 0:11:41.359 They're all in the same area. 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:41.720 Little moto. 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:43.520 Okay, the question now I want to ask you guys 0:11:43.559 --> 0:11:45.720 then about that running back. Do you think Dallas with No. 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:50.559 Four right now is they can't go day three to 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:52.680 get a running back. I agree they have to have 0:11:53.000 --> 0:11:55.439 a running back in the first three rounds. Now you 0:11:55.520 --> 0:11:56.120 say that. 0:11:56.240 --> 0:11:58.880 They saying that last year. No they no, no. 0:11:58.720 --> 0:11:59.160 No, no, no. 0:11:59.200 --> 0:12:01.720 We learned our life. Yeah, we learned our lesson here. 0:12:01.800 --> 0:12:05.760 We have no other comparison. We can't use Rico dowdell as. 0:12:06.160 --> 0:12:08.400 Oh he's not as good as Rico Daddele. You know 0:12:08.480 --> 0:12:09.160 that's the thing. 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:10.000 To me. 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:12.079 I think Dallas is kind of painting themselves in a 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:15.000 corner here, So for running back, and I think they 0:12:15.080 --> 0:12:17.480 have to do it by the time the third round hits. 0:12:17.520 --> 0:12:19.200 You don't think they would try to do that with 0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:21.880 a guy like Williams or Sanders, the guys that are 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:24.360 in the building. If they can do that for Rico Dawdle, 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:25.840 they could definitely say that. 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:28.199 For if they do that, then then if they do that, 0:12:28.640 --> 0:12:33.000 then man, I don't. I can't. The only thing you've 0:12:33.040 --> 0:12:36.040 improved the running game here. The only thing you in 0:12:36.080 --> 0:12:40.000 my opinion, is the coaches. That's the thing that's helped 0:12:40.040 --> 0:12:42.480 you in the running game. You don't have a running 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:44.679 back here, in my opinion, you don't. 0:12:44.840 --> 0:12:48.000 Would they be willing to take the running back earlier 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:50.000 than they want to take the running back prior to 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:50.720 the run happening? 0:12:50.800 --> 0:12:50.920 Right? 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:53.520 And I can just cross references with the Hampton News 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:56.120 going on right now. What if we say your guy 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:59.920 running back at forty four, but Hanton goes first round, 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:03.160 Henderson goes first round, Johnson goes first round. So now 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:05.160 we're like, all right, second round, do we want to 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:07.480 take Harvey here? Do we reach for running back or 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:09.160 do we go something else and wait for running back 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:11.240 in round three? Are the Cowboys gonna have to. 0:13:11.200 --> 0:13:13.679 Be the only reason I wouldn't consider running back at 0:13:13.720 --> 0:13:16.360 forty four is that they're all gone. Sure, that's the 0:13:16.400 --> 0:13:18.839 only But to me, if one of those guys, if 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:23.120 his guy Henderson's there, Johnson Hampton won though, then what 0:13:23.240 --> 0:13:25.800 do they do? See that's the problem that that's where 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:28.400 you go Mancuba or somebody like that. Yeah, but see 0:13:28.440 --> 0:13:31.600 to me, Yeah, to me, I just like I said, 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:34.480 I think they've painted themselves in a corner in my 0:13:34.559 --> 0:13:37.800 opinion that by the third round, because you and I 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:41.000 have had this discussion before about guys that can carry 0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:44.000 the load, could be the featured guy. Can you get 0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:47.319 that guy in the fifth round? Do you see or 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:49.199 you see guys? See, I don't think they've set them 0:13:49.280 --> 0:13:51.480 up to have a back that could split time. If 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:53.920 you still had Rico Dawdle here here and took a 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:57.240 fifth round guy, I kind of feel like you got okay, 0:13:57.280 --> 0:13:58.160 You're okay there. 0:13:58.440 --> 0:13:59.959 The thing about the running back position that I think 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:02.280 is fascinating when it comes to this team is you 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:04.640 have you have your third down guy, you have your 0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:06.199 receiving you have your past protecting guy. 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:08.280 And Javonte Williams. Yeah, I think that's comfortable. 0:14:08.360 --> 0:14:09.880 You just need to get your early down guy, get 0:14:09.880 --> 0:14:11.520 your guy that can open up the game for five 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:15.040 six yards of carry on those you know, opening carries 0:14:15.040 --> 0:14:18.199 of drives and sustained drives and get drives going. There 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:20.000 were so many times last year where I think I 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:21.840 brought it up on the show. Beginning of the game, 0:14:21.920 --> 0:14:24.120 hand off, Rigo, daddle two yards and it just you 0:14:24.200 --> 0:14:26.320 stall the drive before it even gets started. Sure, I 0:14:26.360 --> 0:14:28.560 still feel like there are some complimentary guys that you 0:14:28.560 --> 0:14:31.880 could throw in in the later rounds. I'm not saying 0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:34.040 that's my preference. I'm just saying, don't be surprised if 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:35.960 we get to day three and a running back hasn't 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:37.800 been picked yet, because I think there could be some 0:14:37.840 --> 0:14:39.640 guys that are there on day three. You look at 0:14:39.720 --> 0:14:42.640 all the Us Brooks or a Kyle Mnung guy or 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:44.360 a Jarquez Hunter. I mean, these are guys that I 0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:46.960 think could be early down type guys that would that 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:48.080 would make sense team. 0:14:48.120 --> 0:14:49.560 I would agree with you if you had a fourth 0:14:49.640 --> 0:14:52.920 round pick, yeah, if they, if they somehow somehow hook 0:14:53.000 --> 0:14:56.040 or crook of four from somebody, yeah, or another three, 0:14:56.680 --> 0:14:59.200 I'm with you on that. But if they if they 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:01.600 if they sit there and wait from the third to 0:15:01.680 --> 0:15:04.800 all the way the fifth, watch these running backs come 0:15:04.840 --> 0:15:06.600 off that board. We saw it last year. 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:07.720 Yeah, we saw. 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:10.120 The same thing last year. People are gonna see value 0:15:10.120 --> 0:15:12.880 and it's a good group of running backs, don't get 0:15:12.880 --> 0:15:15.400 me wrong. I just think that they've kind of painted 0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:19.480 themselves in a corner that if they with the players. 0:15:19.680 --> 0:15:22.560 And I like what you're saying about Williams. I mean, 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:25.080 you're right about the catching and the blocking and stuff 0:15:25.120 --> 0:15:28.720 like that, but I just want a guy that maybe 0:15:28.720 --> 0:15:30.560 I want a guy that could do all and Henderson 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:33.320 is that guy. You give me the opportunity to draft Hereerson, 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:36.880 then I ain't worried about Williams and Sanders and those 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:37.840 other guys so much. 0:15:38.720 --> 0:15:41.280 While we're kind of on the topic of conversation, and 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:44.480 not to derail the running back convo, but we were 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:47.760 talking safety. We're talking secondary and thirty round visits. Chavon 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:51.520 Revel Junior East Carolina. I know there's some injury history there, 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:53.320 but give me a little bit of a scouting report 0:15:53.360 --> 0:15:56.640 on Revel and because I don't believe we've really dove 0:15:56.720 --> 0:15:58.920 into what he could bring the corner in the draft. 0:15:58.960 --> 0:16:01.360 Corner position. A lot of people believe. 0:16:01.080 --> 0:16:03.720 That well, depending on where you if you have Hunter, 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:06.280 you know, there's people to have Hunters travel Warner, and 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:08.160 there's people that have him as a wide receiver. 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:10.840 But Ahead and Nick, Yeah, I think the one thing 0:16:10.880 --> 0:16:13.000 that's fascinating about Revel is he only has one year 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:15.320 of starting experience and he's going to be coming off 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:17.280 of this torn ACL as well, so there's going to 0:16:17.320 --> 0:16:20.480 have to be a little bit of an adjustment period. 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:23.040 I coming up from the American Conference into the NFL, 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:24.640 and if you were to be drafted to this team, 0:16:24.680 --> 0:16:26.760 he would need to be stepping into a role immediately 0:16:27.520 --> 0:16:31.160 to start potentially at week one. That's that I think 0:16:31.200 --> 0:16:34.240 would give me a little bit of concern. But you 0:16:34.280 --> 0:16:36.960 talk about being physically gifted, He's probably the most physically 0:16:36.960 --> 0:16:39.480 gifted defensive back in this class, and I think that's 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:41.600