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Speaker 1: Is the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war room

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Speaker 2: And now your host, Kyle Yeomans.

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Speaker 3: Today is Tuesday, April eighth, twenty twenty five, and we

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Speaker 3: are sixteen days away from the NFL Draft in Green Bay, Wisconsin.

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Speaker 3: Nick Harris. Brian brought us Tommy yarsh Votch Lombardy with

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Speaker 4: Glad you're with us.

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Speaker 3: All right, gentlemen, we're just over two weeks out. Thirty

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Speaker 3: visits are now in the rearview mirror. There's been a

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Speaker 3: lot of reported names kind of circling around Cowboys camp

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Speaker 3: and who they've been talking to. Brian, let's get right

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Speaker 3: into it. What does the list and some of the names.

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Speaker 4: Mean to you?

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, the thirty visits are always important because

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Speaker 5: this is really the first opportunity for Jerry and Steven.

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Speaker 5: They do go to the combine, they do see the workouts.

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Speaker 5: They are a part of all that, but they're not

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Speaker 5: part of all the interviews and stuff like that. So

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Speaker 5: the thirty visits are the opportunity for Jerry and Steven

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Speaker 5: to kind of sit down with these kids and have

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Speaker 5: makes them tick. One of my favorite things is when

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Speaker 5: these kids get pictures with Jerry in his office. I

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Speaker 5: think that's the neatest thing in the world. And whether

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Speaker 5: they get selected here or not, it's something they'll always remember.

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Speaker 5: Just having a few moments with him is always something

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Speaker 5: kind of fun. But yeah, it's a good opportunity, and

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Speaker 5: then it also allows them to kind of maybe go

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Speaker 5: into a little more in depth. You know, at the combine,

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Speaker 5: you have a limited amount of time you could talk

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Speaker 5: to these people and maybe you want to put them

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Speaker 5: group setting. You know, maybe you want to have some

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Speaker 5: of your own players meet with them, you know, with

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Speaker 5: a Dak Prescott and others to come over and say

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Speaker 5: hello and get an opportunity. So it's still about fact finding,

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Speaker 5: and it's just done more on a personal level. And so,

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Speaker 5: you know, those things are always important because when you

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Speaker 5: when it comes down to it, the familiarity that Jerry

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Speaker 5: and Steven have with these players, I think goes a

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Speaker 5: long way to seeing who gets drafted.

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Speaker 4: What do you think, Nick, Just based off of the

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Speaker 6: There, Yeah, we can run through the names just Yeah,

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Speaker 6: with fifteen of the thirty have been reported, we can

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Speaker 6: go with Ohio State running back travy On Henderson, Ohio

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Speaker 6: State receiver in Mecha Buca, Ohio State running back, when

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Speaker 6: Alfred Collins, Texas safety, Andrew mccooba, Virginia Tech running back

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Speaker 6: Texas A and M defensive and Shamar Stewart Tennessee defensive

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Speaker 6: the third, East Carolina corner Savon Revel which I've learned

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Speaker 6: Savan courtesy of Tommy across from me. It's Savon very

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Speaker 6: back of Marion Hampton. But yeah, from the names, I

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Speaker 6: mean you're you're looking at the cowboys taking a look

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Speaker 6: at multiple different positions in these first couple of rounds.

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Speaker 6: Like all of those guys that I mentioned are guys

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Speaker 6: you would take on either Day one or Day two,

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Speaker 6: and uh, the majority are our first round type options.

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Speaker 6: I mean you look at uh, you look at Shamar Stewart.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I don't think that's gonna be a guy

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Speaker 6: that's probably not a guy that's Sarah at forty four.

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Speaker 6: Ashon GenZ was one of the Dallas Day guys that

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Speaker 6: you know, they're they're looking at multiple different position groups.

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Speaker 6: And you know, that would make sense to a certain

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Speaker 7: Nevertheless, but the board might fall that way.

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Speaker 8: But I'll say this though, right, what about this safety?

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Speaker 8: you know we what that one safety mean? You know,

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Speaker 5: And is there other saft Andrew mccob be doing And

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Speaker 5: is there other safeties that we don't know about that

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Speaker 5: they're potentially looking at too. Yeah, you know, having some

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Speaker 8: Having having five running backs mean all right, so we

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Speaker 7: They were last year too, they loved a lot of us.

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Speaker 8: But look that that that means we're in the running

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Speaker 8: back business. We're in the wide receiver business. But they

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Speaker 9: What that means?

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Speaker 8: So now, so now I just want to ask, sure, Tommy,

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Speaker 8: Now I want to ask where you take this guy.

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Speaker 8: We have a general idea about where all these guys go.

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Speaker 8: But when I see mox, I see nonsense like have

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Speaker 8: The cowboys ain't gotta bleed what I believe. But he

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Speaker 9: Where does he go?

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Speaker 10: Two things?

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Speaker 11: One, you know, thirty visits are just to clarify it's

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Speaker 11: not always necessarily an indicator of interest, right, It's it's

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Speaker 11: a lot of guys that there are.

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Speaker 10: Interesting, but not necessarily. They obviously can't pick all thirty guys.

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Speaker 11: Sure, so that's something to remember. But you do bring

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Speaker 11: up a good point because mc cuba is an interesting one.

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Speaker 11: My question to the group would be would you play

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Speaker 11: mccouba Nickel.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's that's something I wanted to bring up too.

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Speaker 11: I would really think about it, because if that's the case,

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Speaker 10: I think he's got the coverability to play Nickel.

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Speaker 5: I think he's the second round player regardless of where

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Speaker 5: any real real weakness to his game. People will talk

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Speaker 5: about his six footies one eighty six. But I'm watching

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Speaker 5: showing up. Then you watch the playoff games, he's showing up,

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Speaker 5: I think me personally, I think he have to take

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Speaker 5: third round. I mean, and there's some good safeties on

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Speaker 5: things that he can do and we all know that. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: you talk about if you're if you're talking about playing

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Speaker 5: Mitt Nickel. You're telling me right there, you think he

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Speaker 5: You know that if you think that, you got to

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Speaker 5: take this guy at forty four. If that's the case.

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Speaker 3: And I think he's great in coverage too. When you

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Speaker 3: of direction, football IQ, all of that stuff jumps off

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Speaker 3: the page. It's really the size and it's the tackling

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Speaker 3: Adam logged his thirteen miss tackles this past year, which

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Speaker 3: that's a significant number. But you're trying to play downhill

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Speaker 3: and you're trying to do too much. I think moving

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Speaker 3: him to Nickel will be fine. I think it would

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Speaker 3: be fine. I think he'd be fine as a safety

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Speaker 7: He's not the longest in the world.

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Speaker 6: I mean, his wingspan is more so in the negative

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Speaker 6: negative category. He is an undersized safety quote unquote. It

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Speaker 6: would make sense. I would like to see. I would

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Speaker 6: like to see the idea of him getting brought up

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Speaker 6: to a Nickel position.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I think for tackling concerns. Go watch the Michigan tape.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I saw him against Georgia Arkansas where he

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Speaker 3: really he struggled against Arkansas.

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Speaker 11: He does miss but it's because in terms of tackling,

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Speaker 10: Yeah, And if that's what we got, I'm okay, you're

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Speaker 10: fine with that. I'm good with that.

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Speaker 4: You kind of have that, and Donovan Wilson already do

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Speaker 5: But if we're talking about playing with you that Donovan

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Speaker 5: Wilson covers, we're.

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Speaker 10: Talking about it.

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Speaker 11: If we're talking about Nickel, then then that's fine.

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Speaker 4: What's wrong with Jacksonville.

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Speaker 8: Ain't wrong with Jacksonville, just not here or not Hell.

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Speaker 8: He can go to the in and that was where

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Speaker 8: if you want to go. But I think Ivanrew mccoob

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Speaker 8: is on his team. I don't know if I share

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Speaker 8: the idea with the Table that he's a possible Nickel guy.

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Speaker 8: I don't know if I would like him at full time.

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Speaker 8: And I think he'll be a cool sometimes nickel. I

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Speaker 8: like when he's just kind of floating around just looking

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Speaker 9: Now.

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Speaker 8: Sure, if you want to put him in there to

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Speaker 8: in the world, you want to put him in nickel

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Speaker 9: I mean, that's cool. But just when he was floating and.

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Speaker 8: Roaming and just doing all types of different things, that's

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Speaker 8: why I like him the best.

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Speaker 9: He get picks down and he gets picks back.

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Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying. He's a pick getting guy.

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Speaker 8: So I wouldn't want to just leave him there. To

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Speaker 8: my DONOVD Wilson point, uh we look, man shouts that

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Speaker 8: Donald Wilson man. You know he's he's he's got fans.

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Speaker 8: I'm a fan of him also. But if there was

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Speaker 10: I would real quick.

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Speaker 11: I would argue that playing mccooba at nickel would give

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Speaker 5: Yeah, if you're no, no problem, if you're going to

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Speaker 5: Nick Mcooba, say Amos or Henderson ole.

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Speaker 7: Miss at forty four? Yeah, I go Henderson.

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Speaker 5: Is it just because of the absolute need a running back? Uh?

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Speaker 7: No, Henderson's my RB two.

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Speaker 6: I think the guy that can play all three downs,

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Speaker 12: Uh.

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Speaker 6: And he's still relatively low on mileage. I'm I'm a

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Speaker 3: You guys, I would put what did you do at twelve? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's a good question.

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Speaker 5: You took well, I took the wider receiver out of it.

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Speaker 4: Okay, okay, So I gave you, I gave.

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Speaker 5: You, I gave you Macouba, I gave you Amos the

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Speaker 10: To take Henderson too.

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Speaker 8: I'm taking the safety in that situation. I think I

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Speaker 8: my mind a long time ago, like, hey man, some

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Speaker 8: watching film and I'm with him. There's a ton of

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Speaker 8: I'm going with a safety plus.

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Speaker 9: Just on my board, I just got in the highest.

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Speaker 3: I have Amos as the highest out of those three,

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Speaker 4: They're all in the same area.

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Speaker 9: Little moto.

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Speaker 5: Okay, the question now I want to ask you guys

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Speaker 9: They saying that last year. No they no, no.

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Speaker 10: No, no, no.

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Speaker 5: We learned our life. Yeah, we learned our lesson here.

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Speaker 5: We have no other comparison. We can't use Rico dowdell as.

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Speaker 5: Oh he's not as good as Rico Daddele. You know

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Speaker 13: To me.

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Speaker 5: I think Dallas is kind of painting themselves in a

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Speaker 3: You don't think they would try to do that with

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Speaker 5: For if they do that, then then if they do that,

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Speaker 5: then man, I don't. I can't. The only thing you've

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Speaker 5: my opinion, is the coaches. That's the thing that's helped

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Speaker 8: Would they be willing to take the running back earlier

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Speaker 9: Right?

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Speaker 8: And I can just cross references with the Hampton News

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Speaker 8: we're like, all right, second round, do we want to

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Speaker 5: Be the only reason I wouldn't consider running back at

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Speaker 5: forty four is that they're all gone. Sure, that's the

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Speaker 5: do they do? See that's the problem that that's where

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Speaker 5: up to have a back that could split time. If

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Speaker 5: You're okay there.

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Speaker 6: The thing about the running back position that I think

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Speaker 7: And Javonte Williams. Yeah, I think that's comfortable.

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Speaker 6: You just need to get your early down guy, get

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Speaker 6: were so many times last year where I think I

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Speaker 6: still feel like there are some complimentary guys that you

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Speaker 6: we get to day three and a running back hasn't

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Speaker 6: guys that are there on day three. You look at

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Speaker 5: I would agree with you if you had a fourth

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Speaker 5: I'm with you on that. But if they if they

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we saw.

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Speaker 5: The same thing last year. People are gonna see value

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Speaker 5: me wrong. I just think that they've kind of painted

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Speaker 5: And I like what you're saying about Williams. I mean,

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Speaker 5: then I ain't worried about Williams and Sanders and those

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Speaker 3: While we're kind of on the topic of conversation, and

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Speaker 3: Revel Junior East Carolina. I know there's some injury history there,

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Speaker 5: That well, depending on where you if you have Hunter,

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Speaker 6: But Ahead and Nick, Yeah, I think the one thing

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Speaker 6: He's explosive, he's physical, he can tackle, he plays to

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Speaker 6: That's what doctor Cooper did send out in a memo

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Speaker 6: guys come back and be one hundred percent off of that.

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Speaker 6: That's that's the only reason why if I didn't if

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Speaker 6: he didn't have this knee injury, i'd probably have a

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Speaker 6: first round grade on him.

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Speaker 3: And you're making the jump, like you said, from the

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Speaker 3: American to the NFL. It's not like you're already at

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Speaker 3: the NFL with already established.

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Speaker 7: With only one year of starting experience.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so's there's a lot of question mark there. Where

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Speaker 4: do you see him?

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Speaker 8: This would be fantastic if the Cowboys can find a

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Speaker 8: way to work a little bit of voodoo magic and

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Speaker 8: just get him in the second round somewhere four. I

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Speaker 8: just want everybody to panic about that knee and just

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Speaker 8: let him fall and if you can get him at

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Speaker 8: forty four, then cool. And he got all the things

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Speaker 8: that cowboys love in the corners. He tall, long, can run, tackling,

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Speaker 8: all this kind of stuff. And you know there's this

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Speaker 8: one thing going around all the competition that he played against.

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Speaker 9: That's cool. Man.

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Speaker 8: Watch Michigan, Watch Michigan, and he looked just as good

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Speaker 8: as Michigan as he did first as State twice.

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Speaker 3: Well in the UTSA tape, there were two guys drafted

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Speaker 3: out of that UTSA team in twenty three.

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Speaker 4: I mean there's guys there that he's played against.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, he could play. He's a cornerback three for me

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Speaker 9: behind Hunter and Baron Tommy.

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Speaker 10: I think these two guys nailed it.

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Speaker 11: You know, especially with the fact that Dallas and specifically

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Speaker 11: Matt Eberflus, you look at the corners that he's had

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Speaker 11: in the past. You think about Jalen Johnson, Tyreek Stevenson

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Speaker 11: in Chicago. He likes those bigger, longer armed corners who

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Speaker 11: can take the ball away. And Dallas when it's been

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Speaker 11: at his best. When you saw when dan Quinn was

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Speaker 11: here with Deron Bland and Trayvon Diggs fully healthy, they

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Speaker 11: take the ball away and Savon Revel can can do

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Speaker 11: that for you when he's fully healthy. I think that

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Speaker 11: I share the concern with Nick of okay, can you

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Speaker 11: come back and be what you were after an ACL tear,

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Speaker 11: especially when you are going to be borderline able to

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Speaker 11: participate in training camp according to doctor Cooper, and you're

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Speaker 11: going to be expected to be thrust kind of into

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Speaker 11: the fire here with this cornerback room. Because then the

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Speaker 11: question Dallas has to ask themselves is, Okay, if you

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Speaker 11: want to give Revel a runway, does that mean that

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Speaker 11: you trust Kyrie Elam enough to start week one for

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Speaker 11: you opposite of Deron Bland. And if you do, then

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Speaker 11: there's your answer. But that's that's the big question that

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Speaker 11: looms there. And I don't know if I would. I

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Speaker 11: think I would.

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Speaker 10: I would want to start Revel over him, But do

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Speaker 10: you have the option? That's the question.

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Speaker 11: I like the player a lot, and I think that

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Speaker 11: if he's able to come back fully healthy and the

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Speaker 11: medicals check out, which, like Nick mentioned, the Cowboys are

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Speaker 11: going to have a better inside track on that than

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Speaker 11: anybody else, then I wouldn't mind the pick at forty

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Speaker 11: four at all.

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Speaker 5: Brian, you said he's the best corner. I think he

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Speaker 5: is if you don't include Hunter over there. But I

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Speaker 5: have Hunter at wide receiver, so I think this guy

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Speaker 5: and I understand what Nick's talking about there, and you know,

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Speaker 5: but my corner, my my first round corners, they've all

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Speaker 5: got questions, but every one of them are damn good

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Speaker 5: football players. Revelle, Baron Morrison, they're all really really good players.

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Speaker 5: And you know, and I know they're talking about with

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Speaker 5: you know, we've we've heard, we've kind of gone back

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Speaker 5: and forth about the whole Will Johnson thing of you know,

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Speaker 5: with from Michigan and stuff like that, and you know,

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Speaker 5: if it all checks out, we'll see. But you know,

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Speaker 5: and that's that's my only problem really with with Johnson

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Speaker 5: is that I've got three corners of him. But those

509
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Speaker 5: corners all have some questions about him. But I know

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Speaker 5: one thing. All three of those guys, when you watch

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Speaker 5: their tape, they make plays and that's something that a

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Speaker 5: lot of cornerbacks in this league don't do. But those kids,

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Speaker 5: I think you could plug those kids in and they'll

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Speaker 5: go make place for you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a couple of question marks around those thirty visit

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Speaker 3: guys will continue to give you some scatting reports as

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Speaker 3: those names trickle in over the next.

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Speaker 4: Couple of weeks.

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Speaker 5: That was pretty good.

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Speaker 3: Tom wants to know who do you think is the

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Speaker 3: most underrated player in this twenty twenty five NFL Draft class.

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Speaker 7: Don't come to me first, right at you.

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Speaker 8: R J Harvey back UCF Man. The reason I put

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Speaker 8: him here. I've been talking about him for a while. Man,

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Speaker 8: he's a He is a running back that's in this

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Speaker 8: group of backs. Just for me on my board, we

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Speaker 8: always talk about jent T Hampton, you know, Johnson Henderson.

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Speaker 8: I think you could take him in round two and

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Speaker 8: get you a bell cow type guy, big play, runs, hard,

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Speaker 8: catches the ball. Well, y'all work in that block and man,

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Speaker 8: but that's a common thing about a lot of these

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Speaker 8: running backs in this in this damn class.

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Speaker 9: But balanced vision.

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Speaker 12: R J.

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Speaker 8: Harvey is the last guy in round two running back

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Speaker 8: wise that I would look at and say, I would

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Speaker 8: give that, you know, give him the ball twenty two

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Speaker 8: times and feel decent about it. But the reason why

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Speaker 8: I feel like he's the underrated guy because I don't

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Speaker 8: think people talk about Harvey like that.

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Speaker 9: I don't. I don't think they talk about him in

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Speaker 9: a Round two type fashion.

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Speaker 5: I think rape breaks, tackles and stuff like that that

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Speaker 5: he gets credit for that he.

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Speaker 9: Woops as Brown brought us in.

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Speaker 8: And honestly, I think people got third round grades on

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Speaker 8: him just by nature of what running back is and

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Speaker 8: what this running back class is.

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Speaker 9: But if you take RJ.

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Speaker 8: Harvey in about five years, you're gonna look at him like, man,

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Speaker 8: why won't we talking about Jr?

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Speaker 6: The thing about him in five years? He's gonna be

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Speaker 6: thirty years old in five years, And that's I think

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Speaker 6: that's the one concern because but I'm with you, I'm

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Speaker 6: with you.

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Speaker 7: I'm a big R. J. Harvey guy.

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Speaker 6: I think that's just probably where the concern stems from,

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Speaker 6: is that he's already had an acl taar and that

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Speaker 6: he's going to be twenty close to twenty five when

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Speaker 6: his rookie season starts.

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Speaker 8: Then let's not give him that second country. Some of

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Speaker 8: these teams shod to do that.

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Speaker 4: Part well, and that's why people would have him in

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Speaker 4: the third.

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Speaker 9: If that's the case, right, then that means they're going.

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Speaker 3: To take a first or a second round player. I

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Speaker 3: know he's a damn good player.

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Speaker 9: That's not so.

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Speaker 8: Mike Mayock would say, teams suck at drafting. And if

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Speaker 8: he's a dude, and if he's on the board, he

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Speaker 8: may be twenty five.

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Speaker 9: I get it.

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Speaker 8: But uh, you know, running backs, we typically don't want

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Speaker 8: to hold on to them very long anyways.

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Speaker 4: You know, get a playmaker and run with it, take.

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Speaker 8: Him and just celebration, you know what I mean. But

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Speaker 8: the Cowboys taking Hampton at twelve, So there's no need

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Speaker 8: to worry about this.

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Speaker 10: That's fair. I didn't know we had mel on the

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Speaker 10: show What's Up Time?

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Speaker 5: That should bother you, by the way talk about it. No, No,

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Speaker 5: it should bother you in the fact that mel Kiper's

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Speaker 5: usually right about this thing. If you're a kids taking

658
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Speaker 5: a running back at twelve other than genty, you should

659
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 5: worry about milk Kuiper because he has not wavered from this.

660
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,399
Speaker 5: In his last I played three mock drafts.

661
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:17,919
Speaker 4: And he hasn't.

662
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 3: He's not alone now he was alone initially, Now he's

663
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 3: not alone. There's a couple other guys on that yeah

664
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Speaker 3: train too. Who's your most underrated?

665
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 11: Tommy Olu off of me Ola Dejo, UCLA linebacker, edge hybrid.

666
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 11: This was a guy that Nick Kyle and I had

667
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 11: the chance to talk to at the Senior Bowl, and

668
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,439
Speaker 11: he's really only scratching the surface I think of what

669
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 11: he can do. We kind of started off playing linebacker

670
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 11: and UCLA moved him to the edge and he had

671
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 11: a pretty solid season. You can look at me and say,

672
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 11: Tom who only had four and a half secks, That's fine.

673
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 11: He's built like a demi god and he's going to

674
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 11: only grow from here when he gets to the NFL

675
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 11: and gets more polished. You gotta love what he's able

676
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 11: to do one on one. He looked great at the

677
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,360
Speaker 11: Senior Bowl and one on one reps just so twitchy.

678
00:27:58,480 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 11: You look at that move that he just made there

679
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 11: on the screen, and there's a lot to like with

680
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 11: with what he can do. He had fourteen tackles for

681
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 11: loss last year, fifty seven total tackles. This is a

682
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 11: versatile guy that you can play in a lot of

683
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 11: different spots in your defense, and you've got so much

684
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 11: room to grow.

685
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 10: With him that I think you can.

686
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 11: You can really take a chance on this guy early,

687
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 11: develop him, and he can be a staple of somebody's

688
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 11: defense going forward.

689
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 8: Time, let me ask you a question, sir, And I'm

690
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 8: only saying this to you because you just picked him.

691
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 8: I'm not making you a part of this fight. I

692
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 8: just want to know what you think fight.

693
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 9: What's differ?

694
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 8: No, know, I'm not fighting time, I'm fighting the world.

695
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 8: What's the difference between him and Mike kil wiives? Because

696
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 8: it sounded like you just described MIKEL Williams fantastic rundown

697
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 8: dude got some room to grow, good sized athlete, boy

698
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 8: all this x y Z boy probably got a little

699
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 8: room to develop as a pass rush. But boy, once

700
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 8: he learned ble, he gonna be ready to go. What's

701
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 8: the difference?

702
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 9: Time?

703
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 11: I think Oladejo has only just started playing it because

704
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 11: they only just moved him to edge, whereas Williams has

705
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 11: been there. If I'm not mistaking his whole career, I

706
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 11: think Williams has the d as a run defender right now,

707
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 11: and I think the his build is better suited for it,

708
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,959
Speaker 11: but I think that Oladjo just has so much more

709
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 11: room to grow that spot where they tried him at linebackers.

710
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 10: So much and it just didn't work.

711
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 11: So Williams, I think he's got the running run defense

712
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 11: part of it down, and I think his next step

713
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 11: is getting after the quarterback, which I think he's further

714
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 11: along in the process. And so you look and look

715
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 11: at Oladjo and say, Okay, maybe we need some more

716
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 11: time to get this guy up to speed. But I

717
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 11: think that that overall, I think he's he's Olda Dejo's twitchier,

718
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 11: and I think that's gonna benefit him long term.

719
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Speaker 4: Michael Williams is a little bit I think I think

720
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 4: I touched on.

721
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 9: Sorry, Tom, this ain't me fighting you. That's fighting the world.

722
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 5: You can we can.

723
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 8: I think I'm not fighting you this Amy fight. I

724
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 8: think olda Dejo is a much better run guy right now.

725
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 8: I think he has a much better feel for Mikel's

726
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 8: bigger but he has a much better feel for rundown stuff.

727
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 8: And then, like Michael is probably gonna do begap things

728
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 8: sometimes in old Dejo won't. I think Old Dajoe's a

729
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 8: much better pass rusher right now. I think he projects

730
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 8: to be a much better pass rusher right now. That's

731
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 8: why I got Mike kill on the third That's why

732
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 8: I got old the days were ranked over him.

733
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 9: I'm not fighting you, but I've.

734
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 8: Been fighting people on the internet for the past couple

735
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 8: of weeks, and your breakdown was perfect.

736
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 9: It was perfect. It was exactly how I would break.

737
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 5: The compliment sandwich get raised.

738
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 7: I'm about to get this.

739
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 9: I'm not fighting time.

740
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 8: But I was like, man, that show sounded like Michael

741
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 8: Williams is damn third round here that we described that

742
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 8: show sound like Michael. I just wanted to just hear

743
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 8: you describe the time.

744
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 10: That's fine, that's fine. Part of the show is having

745
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 10: disagreements and talking about all that's fine.

746
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 9: I agree with you, But I day show is a dude.

747
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 5: I could say he's actually thanking you for presenting the

748
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 5: way you did well.

749
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 10: I think you.

750
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 11: Could say, if we're having the argument of Okay, they've

751
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 11: gotten you a couple of times with that in the

752
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:55,479
Speaker 11: last right, the last one was much funnier. Yeah, but no,

753
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 11: I think you could say, okay, they're they're kind of

754
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 11: in the same in the same situation of there you're

755
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 11: you're kind of banking on.

756
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 10: Okay, what is the ceiling?

757
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:03,479
Speaker 5: Right?

758
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 10: We've had the conversation in the past of floor guys

759
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 10: and ceiling guys.

760
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 11: I think Williams's floor is a lot higher than Oladajo's

761
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 11: right now, because of what he gives you with his

762
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 11: size and what he's able to produce thus far. I

763
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 11: think Oladjo is not as far along as a pass

764
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 11: rusher than what Williams is. That's not to say that

765
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 11: Williams's borderline and elite pass rusher. I just think he's

766
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 11: further along since Oladja is still kind of grasping the

767
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 11: edge position. And I think that ola Dajo is still

768
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 11: behind a little bit too in the run support. But

769
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 11: I think that his experience as a linebacker is what

770
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 11: can give him more room to grow in that department

771
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 11: against Williams.

772
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 10: I hope that all makes sense.

773
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 9: Now.

774
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 8: I'm angry because I think Michael will run down the

775
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 8: middle of people and I think Bindi is hell.

776
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 9: But it's all good.

777
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 4: It is a little bit different.

778
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 3: You're you're saying that the ceiling is similar for both,

779
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 3: but the floor is much higher for will.

780
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 11: No, no, no, no, no, I think I think I think

781
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 11: Michael Williams' ceiling is higher. Okay, that's not to say

782
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 11: Oladejo's ceiling isn't high, But I think Williams' size and

783
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 11: what he's already established and where he is in his

784
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 11: progression is further along, and I think that he is

785
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 11: the higher ceiling.

786
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 6: Okay, y'all are gonna hate me, but I couldn't just

787
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 6: pick one guy.

788
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 7: I'm gonna start with.

789
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 6: I'm gonna start with KAYLEB Rodgers, offensive lineman out of

790
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 6: Texas Tech. This is a guy that I think is versatile.

791
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 6: I think he could play four of the five offensive

792
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 6: line spots.

793
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 7: He's a unit.

794
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 6: He's played forty two hundred career snaps at Texas Tech.

795
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 6: He's got a violent punch.

796
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 7: I like his feet.

797
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 6: I think he could clean up his feet work, but

798
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 6: I like where his feet are coming from. Sometimes he

799
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 6: can like over commit on athletic edge rushers and give

800
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 6: them a little bit too much breathing room. But I

801
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 6: still think this is a guy that is going to

802
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 6: be a offensive lineman in this league for a long time.

803
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 7: Senior Bowl guy.

804
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 6: I know a lot of people up at Texas Tech

805
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 6: and they just rave about this guy's character as well.

806
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 6: You see him playing left guard in this In this cutup,

807
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 6: you see him playing right tackle, left tackle, right guard.

808
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 6: I mean he's a guy that can come in and

809
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 6: play pretty much any spot. This is a Day two

810
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 6: type talent for me. Really impressive guy. And the second

811
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 6: guy I have to give. Did y'all know usin Neckler's

812
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 6: in this running back class?

813
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 5: What tell me you're about to say Trevor at.

814
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 6: No, No, no, no, it's a land Larison out of UC Davis.

815
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 6: This guy at twenty four hundred yards last year in

816
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 6: twenty four combined between rushing and receiving, it's a lot

817
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 6: of yards. This is a guy that could be a

818
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 6: three down back. Early down physicality, he can get into

819
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 6: the second level, and he's got a crazy receiving ability

820
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 6: you talk about, this is the guy you can line

821
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,959
Speaker 6: up in the slot at times in the game too.

822
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 6: He had sixty two receptions in twenty twenty four. He

823
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 6: could be deployed out wide. I would like to see

824
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 6: a little bit more wiggle in twitch, but what he

825
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 6: brings in the pass catching department, the route tree that

826
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 6: he has coming out of the backfield. This is a

827
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 6: major sleeper in this class. I think at the running

828
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 6: back position. This is the guy that is not being

829
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 6: talked about enough. Six foot two fifteen can run a

830
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 6: four to four five. He's gonna have a jump in

831
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 6: competition from the Big West. But so did Austin Ecklers.

832
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 6: And that's the spirit of the conversation.

833
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 10: What's his name?

834
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 6: He's got great pass protection? Lan Larison la n first name,

835
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 6: last name, la r I s O N. I have

836
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 6: a fourth round grade on this guy.

837
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 8: Okay, five hundred people, because me and me and Brown

838
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 8: are like like two ten and you keep bringing the

839
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 8: people I've never even heard.

840
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 7: Go watch this guy and come back to me or

841
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 7: throw us in the group.

842
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 9: Chat.

843
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:08,919
Speaker 7: If y'all don't want to bring him.

844
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 5: Up, can you tell me who the players you have

845
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 5: around him in the fourth round?

846
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,359
Speaker 7: I have him, I have him with the running backs.

847
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, I have him above Jarquest Hunter ToJ Brooks. I

848
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,399
Speaker 6: have him right behind Ollie Gordon. I have him above

849
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 6: Jaden Blue, I have him above Trevor at In. I

850
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 6: have him above Brichard Smith, Leaquent Allen uh Uc Davis Davis.

851
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, he's big West is the Big West is bad.

852
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 9: He is bad football.

853
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 6: Under the RAI good team, They're a really good team,

854
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 6: their top ten, top fifteen in the country last year,

855
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 6: and he had a fifteen hundred rushing yards and eight hundred.

856
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 5: Receivers, which is measurables.

857
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 6: Six foot two fifteen run a four to four to

858
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,280
Speaker 6: five as combine. This is one of the most athletic

859
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 6: guys in this class. In my opinion, this is gonna

860
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 6: be a guy we're gonna still be talking about two

861
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 6: three years from now.

862
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 9: Wow.

863
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,959
Speaker 8: See Nick watches seventh round players first and then he works.

864
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 7: Honestly, I just got to be as it was.

865
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,479
Speaker 5: Did you that's because of his combine stuff.

866
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 9: I don't know.

867
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 6: I actually watched this guy back in February. I brought

868
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 6: him up early on one of the early shows. The

869
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 6: the reason I watched this guy is because, like sometimes

870
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 6: I get bored watching film and I'm like, let me

871
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 6: go find a guy that has like crazy stats and

872
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 6: see if there's like any NFL traits to back it.

873
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 6: And I saw him and I was like, Oh, yeah,

874
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 6: he's got NFL traits to back it. And then he

875
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 6: went to the combine and he had an awesome day,

876
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 6: awesome week with the combine. I love this guy. Guy

877
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,879
Speaker 6: that's gonna be It's gonna be a sleeper on day three.

878
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,280
Speaker 4: I've got five hundred and fourteen prospects in this magazine

879
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 4: and he didn't even he wasn't even on one.

880
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 3: That's what fift I've got. I've got to get a

881
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 3: five to fifteen. We're gonna send out a revised, edited edition.

882
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 3: We're going to get him in there. That's under the radar.

883
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 7: Good call, Yeah, it's very under the All right, what

884
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 7: you got, Brian?

885
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 5: Yeah? I answered the question with Mason Taylor at tight end.

886
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 5: I don't think he's getting enough recognition. But I think

887
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 5: I mentioned the name Trevor atn from Georgia, and I

888
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:55,760
Speaker 5: mentioned this is because of his He's not the biggest

889
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,320
Speaker 5: guy at five to nine and one ninety eight, but

890
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 5: he's super loose in the vision and the sharp cuts,

891
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 5: the instant acceleration. You know, he does a really nice

892
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 5: job of catching the football well. He's got very natural hands.

893
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 5: He plays well with the ball in his hands. I

894
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 5: think that he could take like good gains and make

895
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 5: him into great gains with the way he runs the football.

896
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,720
Speaker 5: But he makes good decisions. He's physical, physical. He hasn't

897
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 5: had a bunch of carries during his career. But he's

898
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 5: made up with what he's had, and I think he's

899
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 5: good on the blitz pickup stuff. But like say, don't

900
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 5: let the lack of high throw throw you off here.

901
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 5: He really does do a good job in that are

902
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,399
Speaker 5: and I respect how he's able to make defenders miss

903
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 5: and bounce around until he finds daylight and he can

904
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 5: be a weapon out of the backfield. So Travis, it's

905
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:47,240
Speaker 5: gonna be Trevor atn from Georgia a transfer from Florida

906
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 5: is one of my guys. I don't think it's getting

907
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 5: enough credit.

908
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 11: You want to see his vision, you want to see

909
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,240
Speaker 11: his best tape, go watch him play Texas both times

910
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 11: he torched Texas, and Texas is one of the better

911
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 11: run defenses in college football this past year.

912
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, good play had great production throughout his time at Georgia.

913
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 3: Two lots of lots of good to talk about there

914
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 3: real quick.

915
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 11: Just because I'm seeing some discussion in the comments and

916
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 11: maybe I was confusing it. If I was, I apologize

917
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 11: to the Williams Oladaijo debate. I think Williams has a

918
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 11: higher floor and ceiling. Just to clarify, yeah, I don't

919
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 11: know if I made that clear. No, he said, to

920
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 11: make sure. Yeah, you're saying he's a better player. Yeah,

921
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,240
Speaker 11: pretty much. Uh yeah, I'll throw.

922
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 4: A name in it.

923
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 10: But I still think old is dang good.

924
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 4: They don't like your you and the comments.

925
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 10: Why you're saying it.

926
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 3: Johnny Walker Junior edge out of Missouri did not give

927
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 3: Oh wait, no, this is this is a prospect. I

928
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 3: would have thought it was a twitter on the twenty.

929
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 3: It's a prospect Johnny Walker Junior one because he's got

930
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 3: a great name for the Cowboys, specifically to be a

931
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 3: possible draft pick. But he was a Shrine Bowl guy

932
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 3: who had a ton of production at the Shrine Bowl.

933
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 3: Had eight and a half sacks, including eight or nine

934
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 3: and a half sacks in twenty twenty four with Missouri,

935
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,959
Speaker 3: including eight and a half over his final seven games.

936
00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 3: He finished with twelve and a half tackles for loss.

937
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 3: Yet he did not get an invite to the scouting combine.

938
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 3: He was left off the list.

939
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:06,479
Speaker 4: I liked his tape.

940
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,320
Speaker 3: I thought he was a vertical edge rusher or a

941
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 3: versatile edge rusher that can stand up or put a

942
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:11,399
Speaker 3: hand in the ground.

943
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 4: He can do a little bit of both. He's got

944
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 4: good first step.

945
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 3: Quickness, packs a punch upon first contact, upper body strength

946
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 3: to get blockers off balance. Initially, only thing that I

947
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 3: kind of knocked was he doesn't have a ton of

948
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 3: pass rush moves to kind of go with kind of

949
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 3: straightforward pass rusher. And then at the same time, he's

950
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 3: a little bit smaller. He's a bit of a tweener.

951
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 3: Two hundred and forty six pounds is what he ranked

952
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 3: at the Shrine Bowl. So I think he's a good

953
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 3: player off the edge. I think I would take him

954
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 3: probably early day three, But some people don't even have

955
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 3: them on the board because I don't know who do

956
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 3: you have around on your poor let me get to

957
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 3: my edge rushers.

958
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 4: I have him around.

959
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 3: Some of these other guys like Saveon Jones from LSU,

960
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 3: Hugh Robinson from Alabama, Baron Surrell, Texas, Jordan Birch, Oregon,

961
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,439
Speaker 3: guys like that, or a kind of right right around

962
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 3: the fourth round for you, then fifth round, fifth round.

963
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 3: If he sneaks up into.

964
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 4: The fourth it's because of the production, that's what it is.

965
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:09,439
Speaker 4: And he had a great Shrine Bowl.

966
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 3: I thought he He ended up having two sacks multi

967
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 3: sack performance against Alabama, and Iowa had two Sacks in

968
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 3: the Shrine Bowl at AT and T Stadium. I was

969
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 3: kind of I was intrigued why he didn't get an

970
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,399
Speaker 3: invite to Indy. I was wondering why that was the case.

971
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 3: I didn't know if there was an off the field thing.

972
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 4: I didn't find anything, So I.

973
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,399
Speaker 6: Think that may have benefited him because I worry about

974
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:31,839
Speaker 6: his link a little bit. That's why you see him

975
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 6: on stand up rushes a lot on these cliffs. He's

976
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 6: gonna have to go to a scheme that can really

977
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 6: you know, hide realize the hide that deficiency from him.

978
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 6: Trying to think about like a pass rush heavy scheme

979
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 6: that since five rushers, I mean, he would have to

980
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 6: be on the on the field with a five rush

981
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 6: set in my opinion, but I still think he's still

982
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 6: sand down. Yeah, that's that's where he would have to

983
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 6: go to a scheme that can that can work, that

984
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 6: can work that sense. I I would stand him up

985
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 6: just because that's what he's got experience doing. But there's

986
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 6: not a lot of teams of the NFL.

987
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 17: That do that.

988
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 4: Stu so just kind of wrong time kind of guy.

989
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 6: Not necessarily. I think there's a role for this guy.

990
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 6: He just has to land in the right system. Yeah,

991
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 6: I do think there's a role for this guy. He's

992
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 6: got land in the right system.

993
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 7: If you have production, I think the system could be.

994
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 4: Here in the SEC.

995
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 3: I think you can have some success anywhere. Yeah, the

996
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 3: way that he dominated at the end of the year

997
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 3: in the SEC schedule. All right, let's try and fit

998
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 3: in one more Twitter on the twenty question. We've only

999
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 3: gotten the one so far. Hyeah too, what was the

1000
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 3: second one?

1001
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 17: Oh?

1002
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was all one question?

1003
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 3: You know, this one's kind of fun, Brian, I mentioned

1004
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 3: this before the break before we came back. Ac wants

1005
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 3: to know what a pin throw is. Let's define this

1006
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 3: for me.

1007
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 5: A pin throw is when you fake like you're mad

1008
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 5: when the guy got pecked, but you're really happy inside.

1009
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 5: So you have to show the room that you're like,

1010
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 5: oh damn, I can't believe we lost that guy, but

1011
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 5: inside you're kind of like excited that it happened, that

1012
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 5: he's gone, that he's gone.

1013
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 3: So you're saying a fake pinthrow because he said that.

1014
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 3: You and I have different definitions, and I that's my that's.

1015
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 5: My definition of pin throw. I'm damn see, I would

1016
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 5: call that, but in real life, I'm kind of happy

1017
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 5: because we didn't take the guy.

1018
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 3: See, I would call that like a fake pin throw,

1019
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 3: whereas a pin throws where you actually are up.

1020
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 4: My pen throw is.

1021
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,760
Speaker 5: When I throw my pin, it's usually because they're happy

1022
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:16,479
Speaker 5: the guy is gone.

1023
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 10: So there. What does that mean? You're fake? Pan throw?

1024
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 12: Is?

1025
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 5: Is it actually? Yeah?

1026
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 7: Whatevers?

1027
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 5: If I if I, if I drop like an F bomb,

1028
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 5: then then.

1029
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 4: You know that we lost a guy, and I like,

1030
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 4: you hit the table whatever.

1031
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 6: A pin throw is for Bryan's When Will Johnson and

1032
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,479
Speaker 6: Michael Williams get drafted, yeah, but if.

1033
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 5: They go before they get picked before, then I'll just

1034
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 5: go I can't believe that happened.

1035
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 9: Pin throw darn.

1036
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 4: Okay, good enough now that we're.

1037
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 10: Clearly I'm gonna throw twelve pins if.

1038
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 3: If he goes to Dallas, yeah, you're gonna have to

1039
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 3: go buy a pack if and then throw it.

1040
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 8: If Michael gives a Dallas, I'm just gonna lean back

1041
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 8: in my chair and huff and puff and act like yeah,

1042
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 8: I'll tell you why. He'll fit perfectly up in here.

1043
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 8: But if he goes to Carolina or something, give me

1044
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:05,320
Speaker 8: a pen that's crazy.

1045
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 9: That's crazy. I like Mikey though, man, he just you know,

1046
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 9: just Matt as well.

1047
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 3: We're gonna get in a heap of trouble if Mikel

1048
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 3: Williams ends up being the pick.

1049
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 6: If it's my draft weekend, Bill Johnson or James Pearce,

1050
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 6: we're gonna have a lot of discussing to do at

1051
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 6: this table, let me tell you.

1052
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 3: And this is the clip they're gonna take, and it's

1053
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 3: gonna be Nick talking about it, and then it's gonna

1054
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 3: cut to me kind of smiling half heartedly at the camera.

1055
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 9: All right.

1056
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 3: When we come back here on the Draft Show, Uh,

1057
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 3: we've got some We talked about the thirty visit guys

1058
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 3: a little bit. I want to hit another name out

1059
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 3: of the thirty visits.

1060
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 2: Uh.

1061
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 4: And then I also want to hit perfect fit.

1062
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 3: That was a question mark around who could be a

1063
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 3: perfect fit for the Dallas Cowboys. But I don't want

1064
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 3: to do first round guys. I want to talk about

1065
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 3: guys later on in the draft who you feel like

1066
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 3: can be that fit for Dallas.

1067
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:48,239
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna give away some draft magazines that are signed

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Speaker 4: All Right talked about perfect fit. What are you gonna?

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Speaker 4: Are you gonna try and continue twitter on the twenty here?

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Speaker 9: No, Cale, I just got no what do you want?

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Speaker 4: I just felt like a hand on my back and

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Speaker 4: I'm like, here we go. You remember that thing I

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Speaker 4: sent in the rundown.

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Speaker 8: Me and Nick here saying something very important on the break,

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Speaker 8: and I just wanted to make sure everybody heard it right.

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Speaker 9: I don't hate, no hate is a strong word.

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Speaker 8: I may only hate two or three players, right it

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Speaker 8: just I may hate your drafted you know, like for example,

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Speaker 8: Sean Opman I didn't think was very good at all.

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Speaker 9: Man, I don't want to draft Sean open at all.

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Speaker 9: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 8: I would draft Mike kill Williams. We just disagree where

1142
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Speaker 8: you know what I'm saying. So I don't want about

1143
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 8: to go around say, oh, man, I hate my here wives.

1144
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Speaker 8: When we go out and do some good and preseason,

1145
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Speaker 8: get a little tackle something, I would love to have him,

1146
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Speaker 8: just not as high as the Cowboy as are draft

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Speaker 8: of my bad cotgo, do.

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Speaker 4: You have anything before you move on?

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Speaker 9: They hate when I do that. Cow Man, I ain't

1150
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Speaker 9: coming back next year.

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Speaker 4: I love the fact that he's in this back chair

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Speaker 4: and he just put his hand on my back.

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Speaker 10: I can hold on.

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Speaker 4: Yeah exactly.

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Speaker 9: We feel yeah, all right.

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Speaker 3: Charles Davis and a couple of the NFL network analysts

1157
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Speaker 3: put out a Cowboys perfect fit. There were a couple

1158
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Speaker 3: different elements of this, but it's from NFL dot Com

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Speaker 3: and his perfect fit for the Cowboys was later on

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Speaker 3: in the draft, he brought up Kyle Mnungai, the running

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Speaker 3: back out of Rutgers, kind of an interesting out of

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Speaker 3: left field sort of player. We've talked about him on

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Speaker 3: the show. I think we're all kind of fans of him.

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Speaker 3: Where he would end up being selected probably early Day

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Speaker 3: three or right around there. But at the same time,

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Speaker 3: it kind of stokes the question of what other positions

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Speaker 3: in this draft. Are there a perfect fit quote unquote

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Speaker 3: with the Cowboys? And you can't do anything in the

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Speaker 3: first round because people could say genty R, people could

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Speaker 3: say Tedoroa McMillan or whatever it may be. Outside of

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Speaker 3: the first round, where's your perfect fit for the Cowboys?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: At first, I do want to start just with a

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Speaker 6: brief scouting report on Manga. I mean, this is one

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Speaker 6: of the Tommy Kin attests. This is one of the

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Speaker 6: running backs I enjoyed watching during the Sea more than

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Speaker 6: any last year. I love Kyle Mannung guy. Oh, I

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Speaker 6: do have a couple of concerns. Well, I'll start with

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00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 6: the strings. He's a downhill guy. He can get out

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Speaker 6: and have outside a zone running success too. He's got

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Speaker 6: receiving ability. I think he's probably the second or third

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Speaker 6: best pass protector in this class in my opinion. I

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Speaker 6: got Trevon Henderson up there. I also have Dylan Samson

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Speaker 6: up there as well, but he lacks speed to be

1185
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Speaker 6: like that explosive type weapon in the NFL, and that

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Speaker 6: kind of proved itself at the combine. Zero fumbles in

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Speaker 6: six hundred and sixty nine carries. There's a positive and

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Speaker 6: there's a negative in that. The positive is that there

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Speaker 6: zero fumbles. The negative is that there's six hundred and

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Speaker 6: sixty nine carries. Yeah, he was a starter for three

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Speaker 6: and a half years at Rutgers, but I mean, this

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Speaker 6: guy's a dog and I don't know how long he'll

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Speaker 6: last in the league. I don't know if he ends

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Speaker 6: up finding a starting role in the league, but regardless,

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Speaker 6: we're gonna have fun watching it. I understand where Charles

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Speaker 6: Davis is coming from, because this is a guy who

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Speaker 6: could be an early down type guy and kind of

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Speaker 6: give you those hard earned yards because he falls forward,

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Speaker 6: he's got contact balance, he's got these big thick thigh

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Speaker 6: that fight forward for extra yardage. So I understand where

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Speaker 6: Charles Davis is coming from. I personally, when I was

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Speaker 6: looking at all of these backs and okay, who is

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Speaker 6: the best, who is the best, compliment to Javonte Williams. Specifically,

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Speaker 6: I had put down Caleb Johnson and I had put

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Speaker 6: down by Shell Tutton out of Virginia Tech. Both of

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Speaker 6: those guys I feel like can be those early down,

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Speaker 6: home run speed type guys. I personally like Tutton a

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Speaker 6: little bit more as a fit, just because he does

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Speaker 6: have that athleticism and you need that home run hitter

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Speaker 6: on this on this offense. But if we're going for

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Speaker 6: another position, Maxwell Harrison I've claimed it so many times

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Speaker 6: out of Kentucky at corner because I think he play nickel.

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Speaker 7: I think he can play outside.

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Speaker 6: He's got the speed to be able to kind of

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Speaker 6: elevate the athleticism in that secondary room. I think he's

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Speaker 6: He's a guy you bring in and he's gonna be

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Speaker 6: a day one starter, and he can start for you

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Speaker 6: in multiple spots. He can give you time for Trayvon

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Speaker 6: Digs to get healthy. I really like Maxwell Harrison is

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Speaker 6: probably the best fit in this class for this team.

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Speaker 4: No, that's a good one.

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Speaker 3: Can somebody tell me a little bit about Tutton. I

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Speaker 3: don't think we've talked about him on the show.

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Speaker 7: I don't mind.

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Speaker 6: I just don't want to take anybody's well I don't

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Speaker 6: mind watch y' y'all got it.

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Speaker 7: Y'all got to go.

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Speaker 8: Ahead, big speed, and you know, you know, watching Combine

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Speaker 8: first and then watching him kind of made you go

1230
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Speaker 8: into it. But like, all right, you better be fast,

1231
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Speaker 8: and he is fast. He does kind of break away

1232
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Speaker 8: from those runs. But I was very impressed to see

1233
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Speaker 8: how heavy he ran, like the sense of gravity that

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Speaker 8: he's not like a slashy type dude, just because he's fast,

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Speaker 8: like he does finish runs and I was like, all right, cool, bet.

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Speaker 8: I think if they threw the ball to him more,

1237
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Speaker 8: he'll catch more passes. So I mean maybe in the

1238
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Speaker 8: league there the only ward was he fumbling the ball.

1239
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Speaker 8: Man fumbling the ball years eight thumbers in two years. Man,

1240
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Speaker 8: that's tough. But I think that's because he's trying to

1241
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 8: run so tough. He's trying to whoop ass so bad

1242
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Speaker 8: that he's up fumbling the ball. But what is coaching for, man?

1243
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Speaker 8: Please just tap on the show, like keep that run

1244
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Speaker 8: thing that you're doing, that hard running that you're doing,

1245
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Speaker 8: and just just two hands, man, put the ball on it.

1246
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Speaker 8: But uh, Bay Show is a dude, man, you know,

1247
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Speaker 8: like you know, I was thinking fifth round, maybe but

1248
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Speaker 8: he may be a third.

1249
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Speaker 9: Round type guy.

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Speaker 8: You know by the time we end up, you know,

1251
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Speaker 8: you know, the Cowboys end up looking at him, maybe

1252
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Speaker 8: a third round or we'll see. But base shows a

1253
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 8: dude and I like him that.

1254
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Speaker 7: I have him been the third RB seven for me.

1255
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Speaker 6: Played two seasons at North Carolina A and T so

1256
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Speaker 6: he's he's already experienced that jump in competition, which I

1257
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 6: think is in this specific era, in an IL era,

1258
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 6: you're starting to see these guys that already have that

1259
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 6: experience of the jump and leaping competition, and I think

1260
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Speaker 6: that helps their NFL progression and their NFL transition a

1261
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Speaker 6: lot more. And at Tutton, I think is going to

1262
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 6: be a perfect example of that. I think he's going

1263
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Speaker 6: to step into an offense and provide that home run speed,

1264
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Speaker 6: provide that physicality on early downs as soon as his

1265
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Speaker 6: rookie year. The only thing I worry about from a

1266
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Speaker 6: longevity standpoint is is will as body hold up. He's

1267
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Speaker 6: he is five foot eight and a half right around

1268
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 6: two hundred and five pounds, and he's a load. He's

1269
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Speaker 6: a bowling ball. But that's that's the only thing that

1270
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,720
Speaker 6: I worry about. He battled an ankle spraying last season,

1271
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Speaker 6: but he didn't miss any games, so there's there's no

1272
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Speaker 6: injury history.

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Speaker 7: But I just kind of worry about the buyo.

1274
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Speaker 5: Fifty four percent of his runs were considered breakaway runs.

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Speaker 5: Love that this kid can separate. And another thing you

1276
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 5: need to know about him. Half the games this season

1277
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Speaker 5: he had seventy five yards after contact. As there's a

1278
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 5: couple of metric things you might need to know about

1279
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:10,280
Speaker 5: this kid. He's a heck of a player totally.

1280
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Speaker 6: If you want any film nerds out there, go watch

1281
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 6: the Boston College tape from this guy last year. Yeah,

1282
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:16,800
Speaker 6: you want to have some fun, let's go do that.

1283
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 3: Also, it's bacial toutin tootint facial tootin.

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Speaker 7: Is how you say darn tutin right to tot yep.

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Speaker 4: I mean, do you have anything that on there?

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Speaker 7: You can take that headline by the way.

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Speaker 15: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: In terms of best fit, yeah, uh give me Trey

1289
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 11: Harris from Old Miss I think that. You know, there's

1290
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Speaker 11: been so much talk about Ted McMillan at twelve in

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Speaker 11: the first round for the Cowboys.

1292
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Speaker 10: Well, guys, what if Ted McMillan is off.

1293
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Speaker 11: The board at twelve or they don't like him, or

1294
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 11: they pass on him and they say, okay, we need

1295
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 11: another position here in the first round. We can wait

1296
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Speaker 11: till the second or the third to get a wide receiver.

1297
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Speaker 11: I think you look at in terms of just the

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Speaker 11: X go up and get it. Guys in this class.

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Speaker 11: Think Trey Harris is the second best guy in the

1300
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 11: class behind McMillan. Incredible fifty to fifty ball. He's six three,

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Speaker 11: two hundred and ten pounds.

1302
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 10: I believe he's sorry.

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00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,280
Speaker 11: I'm sorry, six two, two hundred and five pounds, thirty

1304
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:09,720
Speaker 11: one seven eighths arms, nine fifth eight hands.

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00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 10: You could say, oh, he runs a four five four forty. Well,

1306
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:13,360
Speaker 10: you're not.

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Speaker 11: Asking this guy to necessarily be a you know, a

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Speaker 11: speed guy. You just want him to get open and

1309
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 11: to go up over a guy and get a fifty

1310
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 11: to fifty ball. And I think he can do that

1311
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 11: for You've got Seede Lamb who can be the gyat

1312
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 11: guy for you and burn guys down the field. And

1313
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 11: you've got a Cavante Turpin who looks like he'll get

1314
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 11: used more in a wide receiver role this year. Don't

1315
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:33,800
Speaker 11: know how well, but if that's what you if you

1316
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 11: want speed there, you go feel like that for three years.

1317
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 11: Yeah right, I feel like he had just really well midair,

1318
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 11: strong hands to bring the ball in. He's got good

1319
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 11: burst off the line of scrimmage, so you know, like

1320
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 11: I said, not the best top end speed guy. He's

1321
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 11: got long strides, though he gets the job done. And

1322
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 11: then one of the other things that I like about

1323
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 11: him doesn't get talked a lot. He blocks really well

1324
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 11: outside for runners, so you can if you get you know,

1325
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 11: a guy like Trevion Henderson, who I think is another

1326
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 11: good fit for the Cowboys, you can get him outside,

1327
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 11: block and form so that he can hit those home

1328
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:05,240
Speaker 11: run plays.

1329
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:08,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm going to go into like this, this guy

1330
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 5: might be a late third, but if you can grab

1331
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 5: a fourth, the extra fourth, or not the extra, but

1332
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 5: get a fourth back. Teddy Buchanan from Cal linebacker okay,

1333
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:22,280
Speaker 5: fun six thirty three, and he's a you know, speaking

1334
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 5: of Cal Davis, Brian, there we go. I tried to

1335
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 5: I tried to out do you on this one. That

1336
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 5: the side, he's got great size for the position, Like

1337
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 5: I say, six two, two thirty three, he's got to

1338
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 5: pop to his game and he's taken on ball carrier

1339
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 5: as they stop in his tracks. This guy's a physical

1340
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 5: player surprise us. As a blitzer, he can close on

1341
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 5: the ball. There's a couple of snaps where he was

1342
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 5: able to run down cam Ward and force poor passes.

1343
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 5: If you watch the Miami game this year, he's a

1344
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 5: twitchy player and uh and I really like that about him.

1345
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 5: He plays light, uner his feet, lateral ability, covers some

1346
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 5: ground quickly.

1347
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 12: Uh.

1348
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 5: He He's one of those guys that is a really

1349
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 5: good finisher, makes big time impacts on ball, cares some

1350
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 5: range to his play. He could track a ball. He

1351
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 5: had a forty inch vertical jump at the combine and

1352
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 5: you can see some of that explosiveness in this game.

1353
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,799
Speaker 5: So if you guys are hunting a linebacker right there,

1354
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 5: Teddy Buchanan from cal would be a guy that probably

1355
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 5: is going to be a third round guy if you

1356
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 5: could grab that extra Ford, maybe that's a guy you

1357
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 5: consider on day three.

1358
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 10: Awesome hair too, Yeah.

1359
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, he definitely does have some great hair. Did you

1360
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 4: have one?

1361
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 8: I mean I was just up here kicking which Austins

1362
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 8: I talked about too, but I add one to it. Yeah,

1363
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,720
Speaker 8: Carson Schwessinger, that was Minela.

1364
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was gonna be go for it.

1365
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 8: I was sitting back daydreaming today think about him and

1366
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 8: overshowing today h go on my Twitter, I.

1367
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 9: Talked about it.

1368
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 8: But just just watching that dude do all the things

1369
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 8: that I like from linebackers, because I normally think that

1370
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:51,879
Speaker 8: linebackers are either super athletic but they don't process really well,

1371
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 8: or they process their ass all but dy not fast.

1372
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 8: Oh Carson does it all man, So as a sideline

1373
00:55:56,640 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 8: sideline guy, covering guy backwards downhill, tackle it blissing sometimes

1374
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 8: with some sacks and all that.

1375
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, four sacks twenty twenty four.

1376
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 8: Sure, I'm like, man, give me, give me him, give

1377
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 8: me him perfect fit next to over Shan. Let him

1378
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 8: do mic things because the one thing that we was

1379
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 8: kind of worried about was the size, with him weighing

1380
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 8: in at like two forty forty two. Perfect here here, sir,

1381
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 8: so Carson swestron Man watching versus I would just just

1382
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 8: read and just get it snap of his fingers, like

1383
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:26,879
Speaker 8: I'm thirty two years old, you know what I'm saying.

1384
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 8: So I saw Sean Lee for real, you know what

1385
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 8: I'm saying. I saw him with my eyes and I

1386
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 8: missed that super diagnosis, not just the instinct dude, that'll

1387
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 8: kind of flow his way into a play. But I've

1388
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 8: been watching film. I know what you're gonna run prior

1389
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 8: to you running it, and at the snap of my finger,

1390
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:42,919
Speaker 8: I'm there. I want that back and down. It's so bad.

1391
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:45,839
Speaker 8: So Carson Swessinger is a fantastic fifth You look good.

1392
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 6: For thirty two votch Hey appreciations. Dave four Ganzi, linebackers

1393
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 6: coach for the Cowboys. He was in attendance at the

1394
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 6: Carson Swashinger individual pro day worked him out, so the

1395
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:56,799
Speaker 6: Cowboys do have context on this guy for sure.

1396
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 7: This would be second round option potentially.

1397
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:02,240
Speaker 8: Now, Nick Harrison, in your opinion, what's more important sending

1398
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 8: a coach down there to talk to him or like

1399
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 8: this thirty visit take a picture with Jerry stuff going

1400
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 8: on right, like like that's something they want to keep

1401
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 8: in the backpacket quietly, or you're gonna send a coach

1402
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 8: down and we're not gonna make a big thing. Like

1403
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 8: what do you think is more impactful?

1404
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 12: Uh?

1405
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 7: I think it depends. I think in a situation.

1406
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 6: I think in a situation like this, it would probably

1407
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 6: be more impactful to have the guy on a thirty

1408
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 6: because if you if you have a linebacker, you want

1409
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 6: to get him to talk to the DC.

1410
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 7: You'd like to get him to talk to, you know,

1411
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 7: some multiple position coaches.

1412
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 6: Maybe even talk to Jerry and see how he operates

1413
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 6: against around other players for sure, because he's gonna have

1414
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 6: to be a leader in that defensive room. So I

1415
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 6: think in this specific case, maybe a thirty visit would

1416
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 6: be more important. But you look at a guy like

1417
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 6: Quincy Riley Corner out of Louisville, David Overstreet, the defensive

1418
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 6: backs coach, was in attendance at his pro day. It

1419
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 6: was probably more impactful for the position coach to be

1420
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 6: at his pro day rather than getting him in for

1421
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 6: a thirty.

1422
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 7: So I think it just kind of depends. It's any

1423
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 7: either a ward type.

1424
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 5: Of I ask you a real quick question about the thirty.

1425
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 5: Any word about Golden the wide received from Texas visiting.

1426
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 2: Uh?

1427
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 7: No, No word on Golden as far as I know,

1428
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 7: he was not one of the thirties. Okay, that could be.

1429
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 6: That could be different, and I wouldn't I wouldn't put

1430
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 6: too much context into that because.

1431
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 7: They trust me.

1432
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 4: You got to limit that list.

1433
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 7: The Cowboys know about Matthew goldban Okeah yeah, trust me.

1434
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, Swessenger was mine. I think you had hit it

1435
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 4: right on the head.

1436
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 3: I actually compared him the Demo because a lot of

1437
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 3: his college tape remind me of Demo's tape sideline, the sideline,

1438
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 3: just always around the football. Yet ninety solo tackles his

1439
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 3: senior season next closest was on the leaderboard by fourteen,

1440
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 3: trailing by fourteen points in terms of solo tackles. Finished

1441
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 3: with one hundred and thirty six tackles, nine double digit

1442
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 3: tackle games, most by a linebacker for UCLA since Eric Kendricks.

1443
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 4: He was out there.

1444
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 6: So I'm going to be a cigo just for a second.

1445
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 6: I'm sorry for the Dallas Day was last Friday. And

1446
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 6: if you're watching the film right here on the UCLA

1447
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 6: versus Hawaii, Yeah, if you see that Hawaii quarterback, you're like, hey,

1448
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 6: he's not bad. He was at Dallas Day this last week.

1449
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 6: Brandon Sagar. He's a Highland Park grad and he's going

1450
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 6: to be a UDFA type option. Don't be surprised if

1451
00:58:57,520 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 6: the Cowboys.

1452
00:58:58,000 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 7: Take a UDFA quarterback.

1453
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, you look, Graham Mertz out of Florida quarterbacks coach

1454
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 6: Steve shimcohe was in attendance for his pro day workout.

1455
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 6: They had a couple of guys in attendance for Dallas Day,

1456
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 6: Seth Henigan out of Memphis, He's a Denton Ryan product.

1457
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 6: And then Branden Schagar aka Sagar Bombs out of Highland Park.

1458
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 7: He was in attendance too.

1459
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 3: You and I got to cover him a little bit

1460
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 3: while he was there. Great kid, high school, great kid.

1461
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 4: I think he's got a connection with Babe Lofenberg, right.

1462
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 7: They both live in Highland Park.

1463
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 4: I think they're both around there. Yeah, that's fair, good point.

1464
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 7: Everybody in Highland Park knows each other.

1465
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's like Beaumont, like everybody in Southeast Texas related somehow,

1466
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 6: it's the same thing in Highland Park.

1467
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 3: But since you took Swesssenger, I'll just throw out Trey

1468
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 3: Amos because we've already kind of touched on his scouting

1469
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 3: report and what we say. I think as a second

1470
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 3: round guy, I think he would be a perfect fit

1471
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 3: from a big corner outside kind of help you out

1472
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 3: a little bit with the current corner situation. I would

1473
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 3: take almost there at forty four and run with it.

1474
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 3: If that's the case, all right, that does it for

1475
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 3: us here. On the Draft Show. We'll be back on Thursday.

1476
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:54,479
Speaker 3: As then we're two weeks out from the NFL Draft.

1477
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 3: It is coming up very very quickly for Nick Harris.

1478
00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 3: Brian brought us Tommy Yarrish, Fox Lombardi with Jasmine Marshall

1479
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 3: in the back of Kyle Yeoman saying so long, We'll

1480
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 3: see you next week or excuse me, see you on

1481
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 3: Thursday with more of the Draft Show.

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