1 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome back to the Hemor Territory Podcast. 2 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: This episode two six', EIGHT i and your Host Sprad 3 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: rowland coming to you on A tuesday. Evening it's probably 4 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: Gonna wednesday morning by the time the show is. Over 5 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 1: And i'm joined this evening By Steven. Tolbert, stephen let's 6 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: be honest with the with their. Audience the game is 7 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: still happening right. Now it is zero zero in the tenth. 8 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 1: Inning but we are going to record because, look there 9 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: was a two Hour regindo lay and it's extra innings 10 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: and It's, tuesday so we're. Recording how are. 11 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 2: You what's, up? Buddy, yeah not only is it a 12 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 2: two Hour raindulers game two of the. Day, correct it's 13 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 2: BEEN i mean it's been a long day for. Us 14 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 2: it's been a long day for those players. TOO i 15 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 2: can't imagine much thing's worse than a rain delay in 16 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 2: game two of a doubleheader In september of a lost. Season, 17 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 2: Yeah i'm turning that one. Down but, yeah a little 18 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 2: bit stuff to talk to, you not a ton of stuff. 19 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 2: Tonight we're gonna talk about the games a little, bit 20 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 2: a couple of big picture, stuff but kind of winding 21 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 2: down this, season. 22 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: Yeah for, sure and in for the sake of, TRANSPARENCY 23 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 1: i don't think we would have started this podcast right 24 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: now if the game, mattered like if The braves were 25 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,559 Speaker 1: at A pennant, race we would have. Waited but they're, 26 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: not so we'll cover the game later. On hopefully it'll 27 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: be over by the time we finished. This But Chris 28 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 1: sale was. Spectacular we'll come back to that later. On 29 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: but our most recent show Was scott AND i On. 30 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: Sunday we covered a lot of ground on that, episode 31 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: but if you missed, it listen to that. Show please 32 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: subscribe To Hammer territory anywhere you get your. Podcasts we 33 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: did reference on that show The braves had lost five 34 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: consecutive series at that. Point what we do know right 35 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: now is that even as we record, this The braves 36 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: cannot lose the series to The. Nationals they can split 37 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: it as we haven't, recorded but they can't lose. It so, 38 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: hey the streak's. Over they won't lose six in a. 39 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: Row congrats to everyone, involved. 40 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 2: Unless you were rooting for the losses that, yes, apologies. 41 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 1: It's been a very rough week for The techathon. Crowd 42 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: uh because they Won sunday and then they won the 43 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: first two game to this. Series but as you, said 44 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: play to get to we'll go through the games and 45 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 1: kind of take some. Offshoots it's probably the plan for today's. 46 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: Podcast AND i want to go back and start With, 47 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: monday because The braves actually had a big game. Offensively 48 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: they scored eleven, runs their biggest offensive game in like three. 49 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: Weeks and it was not only Matt olsen Infect Jake 50 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: baldwin Homeward Ronald cunia homeward in the, game but Matt 51 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 1: olsen had been in an absolute, Terror so let's start. 52 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 1: There he homeared in four straight. Games he is not 53 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 1: homeward in the second game. Today, actually The braves are 54 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 1: not leading today's. Game by the, Way i'm not sure 55 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 1: you signed to see, it but, yeah so Matt olsen 56 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: homeward in four straight. Games and ALSO i think you 57 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: added this On, twitter AND i know we were in 58 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 1: the building for one of these On. Friday, collectively the 59 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: two of, us, yes with the warning, TRACK i think 60 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: maybe three times in the last five or six. Games 61 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: like he's been just absolutely mashing the ball and he's 62 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: been good, already but, uh four hovers in four games 63 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: is like worthy of, mentioned, So, Hey meddleson's red, hot 64 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: that's What it's always funny he. 65 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 2: Is, YEAH i man HIS i Mean brays fans know 66 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 2: by now obviously he's been on the team for four years, 67 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 2: now but his heaters are as he can get as 68 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 2: hot as, anybody and you, know twenty twenty, three he 69 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:31,959 Speaker 2: was basically on a heater for the whole. Season but 70 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 2: he goes. Crazy AND i was looking it up BECAUSE 71 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 2: i was curious because he did have this weird power 72 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 2: outage or at least not power but home run outage 73 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 2: early in the. Season SO i looked it. Up so 74 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 2: From may twenty fifth To august twenty, fifth which is three, 75 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 2: months which is half the baseball, SEASON i think it's 76 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 2: almost four hundred played appearances he had in that, stretch 77 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 2: he had seven. Homers so over a three month, stretch 78 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 2: hit seven. Homers in the last three weeks Since august 79 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 2: twenty fifth to, now the last three, weeks he's hit eight. 80 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 2: Homers so, like the dude can go on some crazy. 81 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 2: Heaters and you, know we talked about it. Before it's 82 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 2: been kind of a weird year with the entire offense 83 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 2: and kind of a lack of homers and you, Know 84 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 2: Marcel azuna has an homer in a, month and you, 85 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 2: know for a long, Time olsen's like twenty two to 86 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 2: twenty three homers led the. Team now he's up to 87 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 2: like twenty six twenty. Seven but it's just really good to. 88 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 2: SIDE i really want to see the homers come back 89 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 2: to the. Offense we've talked about it a. LOT i 90 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 2: think it's a very critical part of the offense that 91 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 2: has gone, missing and it it really helps to have 92 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 2: homers when you have streaky, hitters because you just don't 93 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 2: need seven or eight guys hitting when you're hitting, homers 94 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 2: you don't need. That and that's that's the KEY i 95 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 2: think The braves need moving into next, year got to 96 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 2: get more. Homers it obviously starts With, Olsen acuny And. 97 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 2: Riley so Watching olsen And acunya kind of get hot 98 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 2: in the last couple of weeks with homers has been 99 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 2: a tremendous. 100 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: DEVELOPMENT i, Agree and you know we've covered so many 101 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: times how twenty twenty four was a down offensive, season 102 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: particularly compared to the previous, year which was the ultimate 103 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: of high. Highs but even, then to your putting my home, 104 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 1: runs The braves finished fourth in the majors in home 105 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: runs in twenty twenty, four even in a down season 106 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 1: for their, offense they hit home. Runs the way they 107 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 1: that they built this, team they have to hit home. 108 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 1: Runs it's not. Negotiable and coming into tonight they were, 109 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: FIFTEENTH i think in home. Runs and that's not, like you, 110 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: know they're not dead, last but fifteenth is really bad 111 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 1: for the way this team is. Constructed they have to 112 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 1: hit home. Runs and you, know maybe you could Say 113 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: olson as what Just olsen has been the literally the 114 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: best Person bace been in baseball this, year you would 115 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 1: hope for maybe thirty five to forty for him versus twenty, 116 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: six twenty. Seven like that's fair to put out, there 117 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: but he's not alone to your, point like it's everyone's 118 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: got to hit home, runs and basically no one has 119 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: had like an above average home run season for what 120 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: they could be in the. Future Like ronnie you, know 121 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: has was out for a, while all the, Things, Oh 122 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: zuona's power went. Away riley's been below what you would 123 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 1: hope for him power, Wise LIKE i. 124 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 2: HAVEN'T i haven't looked it. UP i guarantee you every 125 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 2: single player on the, TEAM i think every single player 126 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 2: on the team hit the under whatever they're over under 127 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 2: was at the beginning of the. Year For homer's, HIT 128 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 2: i guarantee you every SINGLE. 129 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: I mean other Than, Baldwin Like, baldwin right Baal one's 130 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 1: got sixteen and one hundred and thirteen games as a, 131 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: Rookie like that's obviously. 132 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 2: That came out of. Nowhere, yeah, good the main, guys. 133 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,919 Speaker 1: But, yeah every everybody. ELSE i, mean maybe you could Say, harris, 134 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 1: Ironically harris has seventeen that's probably like about what you 135 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: would have expected for, him maybe twenty ish for him 136 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: for the. Season but everybody else is pretty clearly under 137 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 1: what they were, of Including, alson who's been the best 138 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: player of a team this. Year so, yeah a weird, 139 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: story but we'll come back to that later. On but 140 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: it's just worth emphasizing on a day like On monday 141 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: would have hit a bunch of home. Runs there's even after, 142 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: that there's there's still fifteen to sixteen in majors and home, 143 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 1: runs and that's. Sustainable you Mentioned. Akunya he looks back 144 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: LIKE i was never worried About. Acunya but like after 145 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: all of the discourse and certain people i. E me 146 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: ranting about batting more spots and. Things he looks Like Ronald. 147 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: Acunya like the last five six, GAMES i think HE'S 148 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: i think he's been on base like ten times and 149 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: has a couple of homers and, doubles and like he 150 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: looks Like. Ronald like, AGAIN i was never. Worried were 151 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: you worried at all any? Point BECAUSE i don't think you? 152 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 2: Work but, NO i mean when you when you go 153 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 2: when we go back and, look it's gonna end up 154 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 2: being like a ten game sample of like when he 155 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 2: was legitimately bad again he had like an over thirty 156 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 2: stretch or something like. That, yeah but it was like 157 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 2: it was a legitimately uh maybe like twelve at the, 158 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 2: most like twelve game sample of him being. Bad just 159 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 2: an unbelievable overreaction By, snit by. EVERYBODY i, mean it 160 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 2: was just he's got like a one FIFTY wrc plus 161 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 2: for the, season and we like lost our minds over 162 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 2: like a ten game. Sample so And i'm going to say, 163 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 2: this this is a little rant because it pisses me 164 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 2: off BECAUSE i see it all the time On. Twitter 165 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 2: the THING i have zero interest in letting people say 166 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 2: or get away with is when we talk about players 167 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 2: not caring about, Baseball like this has happened a lot 168 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 2: With Austin riley because he's had a rough couple of, 169 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 2: years And i've gotten a million replies, about, Well Austin 170 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 2: riley just doesn't care anymore because he got. PAID i 171 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 2: don't want to hear. THAT i. DON'T i got a 172 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 2: bunch with A, cunya like the season's, over he just 173 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 2: doesn't care. Anymore like these guys are professional, athletes and 174 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 2: when you talk about them not, caring you're talking about their. 175 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 2: Character you're talking about like the kind of people they 176 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 2: are and that, Stuff like we can we will talk 177 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 2: about performance all. DAY i think that's fair. Game but 178 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 2: when you start getting into like PLAYER x doesn't care, 179 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 2: anymore player why is you know he's checked? Out that 180 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 2: stuff is out about because now you're now you're getting 181 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 2: into like the character of the, person AND i JUST 182 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 2: i get really sick of that. Stuff and it was 183 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 2: it was going crazy With, acunya With, riley With Michael, 184 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 2: harris like we'll talk about production and performance on the 185 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 2: field all, day BUT i have zero interest in having 186 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 2: any conversation about PLAYER x just doesn't care, anymore because 187 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 2: that's that's. 188 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 1: Nonsense i'm with. YOU i, mean the only Way i'd 189 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: even ever approached someone that is if you were like 190 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: working off of reporting that was being. 191 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 2: Done, yeah you better have something like you better have yeah. 192 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: Exactly it's not like just you, know watching a guy 193 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: ON tv and decided he doesn't care one, Day like 194 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 1: that's kind of. Silly it does happen and always WILL 195 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: i think. Happen but you're you're. RIGHT i, mean The 196 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 1: ryans particularly a funny one because why everyone's accounts who 197 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: knows the guy he like lives and breathes. Baseball this 198 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 1: is the guy like he's TAKING bp like In, November like. 199 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 2: He doesn't field in like venezuel like he spaends his 200 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 2: entire life on the baseball, field. 201 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 1: Right the guy just loves to play baseball and. Hit 202 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 1: and it's that's it's a really funny. One this is 203 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: not every once in a while you got a guy 204 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: like that's you does love doesn't love, baseball and that 205 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 1: kind of tells you, That Like anthony run it was 206 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: the one everyone always points to because he kind of 207 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: like admits that it's like, baseball, Right but that's him 208 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: saying it out, loud, right he said It that's why 209 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: we know because he said. It, everybody the baseline assumption 210 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: should always be that these guys really like what they 211 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: do because they're professional athletes and they will be invested 212 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: in so. 213 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 2: And not only. THAT i think some of The braves 214 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 2: problems the last two years on offense is that they 215 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 2: care so. MUCH i think they've gotten in their. Heads, like, 216 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 2: Uh Kevin seitzer talked about this when he. Left he was, 217 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 2: like they just they all got in their. Heads they 218 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 2: want to do it so badly that they became a mental. 219 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 2: Thing and, Like i'll have a conversation About braves players 220 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 2: caring too. MUCH i will not have a conversation about 221 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 2: any of them not. CARING i think that's. 222 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 1: NONSENSE a little mini rate for everybody on A tuesday 223 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: evening into A. Wednesday all, Right, Steven we'll get to 224 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:47,839 Speaker 1: other stuff going on when it comes to. It Busy, 225 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 1: tuesday even some Special strider Pitch. Monday we have more 226 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: to talk about on today's. 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Six that's his fourth, straight like solid to good, 256 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: start and over that time he's allowed seven runs in 257 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: his last twenty five, innings which is like an era 258 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: and a load of mid two is like, nothing you, know. 259 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: Ridiculous but after like some, panic we'll use that word About. 260 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 1: Strider he's not something throwing a hundred, again that's not. 261 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 1: Happening but you're seeing some little, shifts little, adjustments and 262 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: he has figured it, out at least in the short. 263 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: Term another guy THAT i wasn't worried, about BUT i 264 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: think there was more concern and reasonable concern About. Strider 265 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: it's not all fixed, now but four starts in a 266 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: row where he's at least competitive or better is a good. 267 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 2: Sign it feels like it's definitely better than the. Alternative, 268 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 2: yeah so you, always you, know especially with the guy 269 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,719 Speaker 2: who very clearly needs to make, adjustments watching him make 270 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 2: adjustments and then have success off of those adjustments is 271 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 2: a big. DEAL i don't know how many of these 272 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 2: minor adjustments he's made are going to be part of 273 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 2: his game in twenty twenty. SIX i think he's gonna 274 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 2: get to the offseason and that's where he's gonna do 275 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 2: a majority of his. Work but, yeah it's just good 276 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 2: to see him have any sort of. Success we've talked 277 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 2: About sean AND i have talked about it a, bunch 278 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 2: about how he's changed his pitch, mix you, know from 279 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 2: a sixty percent fastball usage guy down at some points 280 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 2: down to like a thirty five percent fastball usage. Guy 281 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 2: a lot more, sliders a lot more, curveballs more. Changeups 282 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 2: he's having to pitch a little more than he's ever had. 283 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 2: To you know that a lot of guys have to 284 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,839 Speaker 2: when they throw a. Hundred so, yeah it's just good 285 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 2: to see and get him healthy to the. Offseason of, 286 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 2: course let him get a full off season of working, 287 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 2: out building up, strength see if velocity comes, back and 288 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 2: then if it doesn't come, back what are his long 289 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 2: term what are his long term answers for twenty twenty? 290 00:13:58,360 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 2: Six Matt olson. 291 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: Triples just that. 292 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 2: Triple maddalson bases loaded. 293 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: Triple, yeah, yes you're hearing that right if you if 294 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: you missed the game, too it was so late. Tonight 295 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: maddelson just had a basis loaded triple in the tenth. 296 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: Inning meddleson is not fast, Everybody uh but, yeah Uh, 297 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: strider good. Signs we'll see how it. Looks but this 298 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: is a guy speaking of we thought about like guys. 299 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: Caring he cares a. Lot he'll be in the lab ball. 300 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: WINTER i am pretty confident that he'll figure it out 301 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: and be in good shape all right To tuesday and 302 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: to take aways from today's, Doubleheader Profar homeward again we 303 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: talked about. Ball what's not about? Ball over for a. Second, 304 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: So Drake balwin had a slump, going which he was 305 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: probably due for, One like it was like two weeks 306 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: of being in a bad, slump but like no reason for. 307 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: Panic but unfortunately For rookie of The year, purposes he 308 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: tied that kind of. Poorly he kind of broke out of. 309 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: It the last couple of. Days he had three hits 310 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: and a homer On, monday he had a pinch hit 311 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: double this quarter run, tonight et. Cetera he's been good 312 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: now forast couple of, days AND i was having a 313 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: great season as we started. Recording, However drake was the biggest. 314 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: Underdog he had been in the betting market For rookie 315 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: of The year in several. Weeks our friends At DraftKings 316 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: Have Kate horton at least as of five minutes, ago 317 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: at minus two to, eighty which is a pretty big. 318 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: Favorite nothing, crazy but it's been more of a coin 319 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: flip in the market for like a long time, now 320 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: and Now horton is like the. Favorite and that's mostly 321 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: to do With, horton which you pointed out to, Me 322 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: So i'll throw it to. You But, baldwin you know 323 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: nothing he really did wrong er than having a mini. 324 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: Slump but he might have to like kind of go 325 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: nuts or gets one blow up or something From, horton 326 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: because right NOW i think if the voting closed, today 327 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: he might be into. 328 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 2: Trouble, YEAH i, mean you just got to give. CREDIT i, mean, 329 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 2: Kid horton has given. Up he's pitched sixty INNINGS i 330 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 2: think in the second half and given up six earned 331 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 2: runs for a team that's in a playoff, spot and, 332 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 2: like these are big innings and so they're you, know 333 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 2: under a, microscope and you know they don't have like 334 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 2: The cubs don't have like your traditional like front line 335 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 2: starting pitching that a lot of playoff teams. Have like 336 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 2: they're doing it with kind of guts and relatively new. 337 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 2: Guys and he's just been. Awesome And drake did go 338 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 2: into a slump for about two. Weeks it's hard to 339 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 2: call it a slump with two just like a, coon you, like, 340 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 2: yeah two weeks is hard to. Call it's, baseball it's gonna. 341 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 2: Happen but when you're in a neck and Neck rookie 342 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 2: of The year race with a dude who's basically been 343 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 2: shoving since The All star, break that two weeks literally 344 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 2: might be the. Difference and obviously he had a really you, 345 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 2: know he's had a good series In. Washington but it 346 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 2: would be nice If Kate horton could go out and 347 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 2: maybe have some some stinkers. 348 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: At least have one at. Someone, Yeah, like it is, 349 00:16:55,440 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: frustrating especially as a process driven podcast that we tend to, 350 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 1: Be Like Kate HORTON'S fip is like. Four, Yeah LIKE 351 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 1: i don't Think Kate, horton with due respect to, him 352 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: is like the level of picture that he should be 353 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: carrying a two point six. Era his fundamentals don't indicate. 354 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: That but For rookie of The year, purposes it's not 355 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: gonna that doesn't. Matter like maybe for a for some 356 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 1: voters it might, Matter but on the, WHOLE i think 357 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: people are gonna see two right. Now he has a 358 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: two point six cra on a good. Team Drake balwin 359 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: at least for some voters could be punished some by 360 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: The braves being. BAD i find that very very silly 361 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 1: for almost any, award but Especially rookie of The. Year it's, 362 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: like what's he supposed to do to fix? That but 363 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:42,360 Speaker 1: you know how this? Works ste even like some some 364 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: voters somewhere is, like, well this guy's in a playoff. 365 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: Team check the box For Kate. Horton so it's still relatively, 366 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: close not like it's, over But horton doing this late 367 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:55,199 Speaker 1: if He If horton closes with The Saint mira he 368 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: has now let's say he has two or three more 369 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 1: starts and he has the Same ira he has, NOW 370 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: i think it's going to. 371 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 2: Lose, yeah and, listen there's only ten, games eleven eleven 372 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 2: or ten or eleven. 373 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:07,360 Speaker 1: GAME i THINK i think it'll probably be two more 374 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: starts For, horton so he. 375 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 2: Only has two more. Stars, so AND i haven't looked 376 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 2: at their. SCHEDULE i think they have The mets at some. 377 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 1: Point BUT i was so gad up to talk about 378 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 1: The mets On sunday With scott and they finally won 379 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,120 Speaker 1: the game that. Day they were on this massive losing 380 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 1: streak AND i was, like, oh it was on my 381 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: notes and then they, won SO i didn't bring it. 382 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 1: Up you, know it was it's been fun to sweat 383 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: The mets and The. 384 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 2: Giant The giants lost and The mets, won so, yeah that. 385 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 2: Sucked BUT i DO i THINK i think The, cubs 386 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 2: AND i think The mets still have to play The. 387 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,919 Speaker 1: Cubs might be the only reason why it's Not maybe 388 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 1: we're not going crazy in. This The cubs playoff odds 389 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 1: are like ninety nine point nine, percent like they're. In, 390 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: yeah so they may not have to be powered with 391 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 1: the metal down the. Stretch but you would think it's 392 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 1: probably still two starts For Kate. Horton we'll, see but 393 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,239 Speaker 1: obviously if you are invested in The rookie of The year, 394 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: race WHICH i know a lot of race fans, are 395 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 1: you are rooting heavily AGAINST Kt, horton and you are 396 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: rooting For drake to get, hot and he showed the 397 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 1: starting to show a little bit of a hot streak right, 398 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: now potentially going on in less two days needs more 399 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 1: of that for. 400 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 4: Sure, hey if you're a card collector or you're looking to, collect, buy, sell, 401 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 4: Trade arena clubs the, spot And i'm going to tell you, 402 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:19,919 Speaker 4: why because the old PROCESS aja was very. 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Was then he went 431 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 1: nuclear and you sure some numbers on this today On, 432 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 1: TWITTER i was laughing about, it but like he has 433 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: gone back into the void the last few. Weeks so 434 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 1: that four hits today is why we're bringing it. Up 435 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:45,120 Speaker 1: that's that's a good. Sign BUT i can't get over 436 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: the walk. Number do you have it in front of? 437 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 2: You, yeah he's got four walks in his last four 438 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 2: hundred plate, appearances which. 439 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:51,640 Speaker 1: Is say that one more. 440 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 2: Time he's got four walks in his last four hundred plate. 441 00:20:55,280 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: Appearances that is a one percent walk, Rate like that's not, Possible, 442 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 1: like no one has a one percent walk. Rate and 443 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 1: that's not that's not for the plate appearances is two 444 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: thirds of a. 445 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 2: Season he's had multiple stretches of going like one hundred 446 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 2: and fifty plate appearances without a. 447 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 1: Walk that SAYSN'T i mean as good as he was 448 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: for that month in the middle of the, season that did, Happen, 449 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 1: like no one can BE i, mean maybe there's an 450 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: example What i'm, forgetting BUT i don't think anyone can 451 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: be a good major league hitterer with a two percent walk. 452 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,479 Speaker 1: Rate and that's Where michael listen of the. Season it's 453 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: two point four. Percent it's the lowest walk rate of 454 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: any player in baseball by a decent. Amount, no it's. 455 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:43,360 Speaker 2: It's it's SO i tweeted out the. Numbers so from 456 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 2: Opening day to The All star, Break mike had a 457 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:50,400 Speaker 2: forty SEVEN wrc, plus which, is you, know quite. Bad, 458 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 2: yes it's one of the worst. Hitters and he. Was 459 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 2: he was one of the worst hitters in baseball from 460 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,640 Speaker 2: the start of the second, half which Was july nineteenth 461 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 2: Through august, nineteenth one, Month Michael harris had a two 462 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 2: FIFTEEN wrc, plus so he was quite literally probably the 463 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 2: best hitter in baseball. 464 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: Or at least on the short list for a month since. 465 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 2: Then so that Was july Nineteenth august, Nineteen so From 466 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:18,360 Speaker 2: august twentieth to now coming into, today it's not including 467 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 2: his his game. Today he had a, good good double header. 468 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 2: Today he had it was about a month worth of player. 469 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 2: APPEARS i think it was like one hundred and fifteen plate. 470 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 2: Appearances he had a negative SEVENTEEN wrc. PLUS a negative 471 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 2: SEVENTEEN wrs was zero. 472 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: Walks it's hard to get to a negative over that 473 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 1: large of a sample when you're playing every. 474 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 2: Day he's got he had like a one forty eight 475 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 2: on base, percentage which is. 476 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 1: We did share that briefly On. Sunday like again there 477 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 1: this is what this is one of a situations where 478 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: really helps to take. Walks you don't have to be 479 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: a twenty percent walk, Right, Like i'm not saying you 480 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: got you gotta be pro former racoonyan and take a. 481 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: Time it'd be helpful if he. Was but like you 482 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: basically can't have a one obi AN obp and in 483 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 1: the one hundreds if you take any walks in. 484 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 2: All correct, Correct but that is that is the importance 485 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 2: of is they sustain you during bad. Streaks and that's 486 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 2: what people that's what like casual fans don't, understand is 487 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 2: that like even When acunya went through his like when 488 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 2: you take, walks like like When acuna had his worst 489 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 2: month In, august he had like a ninety six W 490 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 2: rc plus be like a three sixty on base percentage 491 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 2: because he walks fourteen percent of the. Time, like even 492 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 2: when you're not, hot walks sustain your production and they 493 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 2: they they create a floor that you're never gonna drop. 494 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,199 Speaker 2: Below Well michael doesn't have. That michael can just creater 495 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 2: all the way down to the bottom of the. Ocean 496 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 2: and that's that's the thing we got to figure out 497 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 2: because we've we've seen him his production just completely crater 498 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 2: multiple times a year now for multiple. Years AND i don't, 499 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 2: KNOW i don't know the answer to, it but it's 500 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 2: got to start with some plate. Discipline, YEAH i. 501 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,199 Speaker 1: DON'T i don't think he's never gonna suddenly be an 502 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 1: awesome played A simplin. Guy like what you don't see 503 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: is guys going from this to being great in taking. 504 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: Walks what you're hoping for is he becomes like just 505 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: really really below. Average because the only REGULAR i looked 506 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: this up just now to make, sure the only regular 507 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: in the league in recent years with a comparable walk 508 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: rate to What michael has been doing Is Hobby. Bias. 509 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: Yeah bias is a good example of a player who 510 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: bottomed out entirely at the plate because he doesn't take 511 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: walks like and he can have hot stretches. Still even 512 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: this year he had a couple of hot stretches where it's, like, 513 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: oh Hovey, bias he's. Back and then you look up 514 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 1: and he has two percent walk rate and His demarcy 515 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 1: plus is like eight in the, eighties and it's, like, 516 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: well we're back to Being Hobby bias. Again. 517 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 2: YEAH i made The Hobby Bias harris comparison a couple 518 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 2: for a couple of. Times but they have they have 519 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 2: actually have a ton of like they came up as 520 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 2: these elite defensive players at elite defensive, positions tons of, 521 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 2: power but they had questions about plate. Discipline It it 522 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 2: quite literally Ruined Hobby bias's, career like he was on 523 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 2: his way to being A mvp level. Player you, know 524 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,719 Speaker 2: he had like multiple four win seasons early, on and 525 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 2: then it just slowly just descended into you, know he 526 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 2: back to eighth a lot of the. Time, now like 527 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 2: this this is a thing that. Does it doesn't end, 528 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 2: careers but it will knock you down multiple levels from 529 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 2: where you thought you would. Be and that's WHAT i 530 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 2: worry about With mike is that like this is gonna 531 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 2: get so bad where he's just he's barely even like 532 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 2: a starter level player is like hobby. Bias, unfortunately, yeah hopefully. 533 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: Not but uh, hey and encouraging day today For. Michael 534 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,239 Speaker 1: BUT i was EVEN i wasn't gonna bring it, up 535 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 1: but THEN i saw that number of four walks and 536 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 1: foreigner played, appearances and it's LIKE i knew it was, 537 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: bad and that's worse THAN i. Thought SO i was, Like, 538 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 1: okay we have to bring this up on the podcast 539 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 1: else we're in game. One On, Tuesday Jose suarez became the, eighth, 540 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: sorry eighteenth starting pitcher for The braves this. 541 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:57,679 Speaker 2: Year big. 542 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 1: Difference So scott AND i references on the show On 543 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: sunday about how it was already the team record seventeen 544 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: But we speculated it might go up in the last 545 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 1: two weeks because it's just you, know you're kind of 546 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: in garbage time and then literally today, doubleheader natural point 547 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: for it to. Happen but that's a crazy. Number eighteen 548 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: guys starting game is. Crazy suarez if people don't know 549 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 1: who he is before, today twice seven year old left 550 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: hander had a couple of promising years with The angels 551 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 1: a couple of years, ago like twenty one twenty, two 552 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: was like a pretty decent pitcher they thaw off the, 553 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:35,239 Speaker 1: cliff but has stuff like he was good, Today like 554 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,439 Speaker 1: it's the it's The, nationals It's, september so you're grading 555 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: on a. Curve but he threw seven innings WHICH i 556 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 1: was legitimately shocked by in a spot, start but struck 557 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 1: out nine like missed a lot of, bats got, good 558 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 1: moved on his pitches like he's got an arsenal to. 559 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: Him there's a reason why this guy is like a major, 560 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,679 Speaker 1: Leaguer like he's got. Stuff what do you make of? 561 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 1: This did do you care at? All is it just 562 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: one start you're like shrugging about or is it like 563 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: maybe there's something? Here this is what. 564 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,360 Speaker 2: The braves should have been doing this and then they 565 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 2: have kind of they did it with some veterans that 566 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 2: have zero, upside but like they should be taking guys like, 567 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 2: this and they did it With wins AND i think 568 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 2: it's worked out decently. Well we're like guys who still 569 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 2: have room to be. Better like Cal quantrell has no 570 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 2: room to be. Better he is exactly what he is 571 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 2: and was never going to get better and it's only 572 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,880 Speaker 2: gonna get. Worse but guys Like Joey, Wentz Jose, suarez 573 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,199 Speaker 2: who have, stuff who have some, pedigree who've had some 574 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 2: levels of success at a pro, level you, know why? 575 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 2: Not why? Not just see you, know you catch lightning 576 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 2: in a bottle all the. Time SO i love. That 577 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,479 Speaker 2: this is WHAT i want The braves to. Do LIKE 578 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 2: i really thought they might shut Down waldrip at some 579 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 2: point just because he's thrown so many. EATINGS i thought 580 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 2: they might shut Down strider at some point just to 581 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,679 Speaker 2: let him start his off. Season AND i was hoping 582 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 2: this is what they would. Do they would take guys like, 583 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 2: this find guys like. This you can always find guys like. 584 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 2: This we're having bad seasons but have, upside and just you, 585 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 2: know The braves have done a really good job historically 586 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 2: With Rick kranitz of like getting these dudes and getting 587 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 2: more out of. 588 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 1: Them SO i Mean Grant holmes prime primary. 589 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 2: Example Grand holmes is a great. Example. Yeah so, yeah 590 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 2: this is exactly what they should be. DOING i have 591 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 2: no idea if Hos swartz is going to be, anything 592 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,679 Speaker 2: but you know that's getting into results by. Process this 593 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:22,919 Speaker 2: is exactly what they should be. 594 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: DOING i, Agree and you, know again there's there's a for. 595 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 1: Me there's several. Things it's LIKE i mentioned one, already 596 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 1: there is a two year record in the majors of 597 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: him being a quality major league. Pitcher that happened. Already 598 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 1: he's only twenty seven years, old so it's not like 599 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: he's in his mid. Thirties he's got no stuff, left 600 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: like he's still in his prime. Physically and then he 601 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: also was pretty good in the miners for The, braves 602 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: like you are in the, threes ten strikeouts per, nine 603 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 1: less than two walks per, nine like what you want 604 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: to see in the. Minors and that has. Stuff, again 605 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: there's a reason WHY i mentioned that. Before but like 606 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: multiple pitches that can have some life to, them he 607 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 1: can miss bats and has a record of doing. That 608 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: in the major. Leagues SO i don't know if he's 609 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 1: gonna go to. Either we have no, idea but it 610 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 1: is a worthwhile. GAMBLE i was encouraged by, that and 611 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 1: it was at least providing some intrigue for a midday 612 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: game on A tuesday In. September so that was. Fun 613 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: lastly from the first, game and then we'll go to 614 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: the finale today and get out of. Here rust like laces, 615 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 1: guys two or fiftieth save of his career. Today he 616 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 1: waited a long time for. It, actually they hadn't got 617 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: one a. While not really his. Fault he's only the 618 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: fortieth pitcher ever to have that many. Saves that's not 619 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: a Small baseball's been happening for a long. Time so, 620 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: cool cool honor For. Risel good on. Him that's the 621 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: hook for me to bring up What i'm about to. 622 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: Say he's allowed one run in his last twenty two. 623 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: Outings he has been ridiculous for a. WHILE i know what. 624 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: Happened happened In, april and MAY i understand, Everybody i'm 625 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: not saying. Otherwise it was quite bad for a long. 626 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: TIME i. Understand but he has pretty convincingly been a 627 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: top five reliever in baseball now for like three and 628 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: a half. Months what do you make of? That do you? 629 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: CARE i Mean i've Asked scott. THIS i don't know 630 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 1: IF i don't know if you have talked about, This 631 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: like do you want to Bring russel? Back, like BECAUSE 632 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 1: i think he's especially Like russell A. Glass now, AGAIN 633 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: i know he's on the older, side he's a free, 634 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: agent all those, things but, like when you're this good 635 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: for this long and they didn't trade, him which we 636 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: all know and covered ad, nauseum but they didn't trade, 637 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 1: him so their relationship is still, there and it's kind 638 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 1: of the natural questions like all, right what now because 639 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: he's been so? 640 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 2: Good, YEAH i mean bring. It, listen The braves don't 641 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 2: have a closer that we know of that's on the 642 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 2: roster for. Nextion, now any of the internal guys they 643 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 2: do have could probably be, bumped but in terms of 644 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 2: like a proven, closer The braves currently do not have 645 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 2: one of those on the roster for twenty twenty. Six 646 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 2: so if you want to Bring Ross glacier's, back for, 647 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 2: me it's all it's all gonna be contract, Driven like 648 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 2: what are you giving? Him what is he? Need what 649 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 2: is he asking. For he's thirty five years. Old he's a, 650 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 2: Reliever LIKE i have some limits on WHAT i would 651 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 2: be interested in doing, there but he gotta have a 652 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 2: C i, mean even, today's even in the modernized version of, 653 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 2: baseball teams use Closers LIKE. I if you had asked 654 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 2: me ten years ago if like a closer official closures 655 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 2: would still be, AROUND i would have said. No but 656 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 2: that's one of those like traditional positions that is really held. 657 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 2: On like even the most analytical teams in baseball have proven, 658 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 2: closers like guys who are the set closer for safe. 659 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 2: Situations AND i don't know why that's still around in, 660 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 2: baseball but it is and teams value. It SO i 661 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 2: have no problem bringing myself. BACK i cannot believe they 662 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 2: didn't trade. HIM i can't believe some team didn't offer. 663 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 2: Something i'm still. PISSED i don't think The braves were 664 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,719 Speaker 2: willing to eat the. Money that still annoys the hell 665 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 2: out of. 666 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 1: Me BUT i mean to your, point, like AM i 667 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: how good he's? Been like he would be helping a playoff. 668 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 2: Team, RIGHT i can't believe somebody didn't off for to 669 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 2: pay that, Salary like that's, crazy like somebody should. Have 670 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 2: there are plenty of teams with bad pulpins that are 671 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 2: kicking themselves for not getting. Roscles that's one hundred percent of. 672 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 2: Fact but, YEAH i have NO i have no problem 673 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 2: bringing him. 674 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 1: Back if you had started the season on you, Know june, 675 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 1: first he'd be a TOUGH i believer baseball if you 676 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: go back to even, look even if you go full 677 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 1: season and we covered it at nauseum day by day 678 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: when he was struggling earlier in the, year even if 679 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 1: you include all of, that now he has a three 680 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: point five r for the season and like ten s 681 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: reconds for nine less than two walks for. Nine, like 682 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 1: even when you include, everything it's still like been a 683 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 1: fine overall. Season and if you take off the first 684 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: month and a, half it's an elite. 685 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 2: Season even a month and a. Half he just lost his, Slider, 686 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 2: like he just lost. Few he could not throw a. 687 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 2: Slider he would he would hang it every. 688 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 1: Time it was it was really it was really hard 689 00:32:58,640 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: to watch the. 690 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 2: Times, yeah he hadn't a, Lot like his velocity was still, 691 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 2: good the location was still. Good he just could not 692 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 2: throw a slider without hanging in the middle of the. 693 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 2: Plate he finally ditched the slider and he looked, like rosso. 694 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 1: Glacis it's, Uh it's absolutely. True all, Right, steve we'll 695 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 1: get To game two On. TUESDAY a little bit of 696 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 1: looking ahead To wednesday and more after a word from our. 697 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: Partners all, Right. Stephen one of our offshoots slash takeaways 698 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 1: from the last couple of days is not a new, 699 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: one but one that like keeps coming up because it's 700 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: he just makes it come. Up Chris sale's. Absurd Chris 701 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 1: sale is absolutely. Absurd so if you went to bed 702 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 1: or something On tuesday night after the rain delay and missed, 703 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 1: It Chris sale on a weird day. Again raindo lays 704 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 1: are bad for, pictures like they Don't it's not easy 705 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 1: to pitch in an hour of that you're not supposed 706 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 1: to be pitching in all those. Things Chris aale goes 707 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: out there on the road weather to, le, etcetera and 708 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: throws eight, innings allows three, hits no, walks no, runs nine. 709 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: Strikeouts water is. Wet Chris sale is. Absurd and another 710 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 1: guy who had kind of a rough start not like 711 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 1: not like Why, sale LIKE i can't believe that people 712 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 1: were doing the Is chrysale wash thing In, april which 713 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:22,760 Speaker 1: even then we were laughing about that on the podcast 714 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 1: to our, CREDIT i, think but, Uh, chris you look 715 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 1: up now And Chris sale is THE r two point 716 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 1: three for the. Season like if he hadn't got if 717 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 1: he hadn't gotten, hurt he might want to say, again 718 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 1: like that's how good he's. 719 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 2: Been he's been Absurd, OH i think he was one. 720 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 2: Hundred he's got a BETTER era this year than he 721 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 2: did last. 722 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: YEAR i mean he has. Eight so this is an 723 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 1: arbitrary end. Point but if you start the Season may, 724 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 1: one so, again he had kind of a by his 725 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 1: standards rough Ish April may first, on he is number 726 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,919 Speaker 1: one in baseball ON ira by a. Lot it's. One 727 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 1: he's a one point two FOUR era since the beginning Of. 728 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,120 Speaker 1: May as a start a. 729 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 2: PICTURE i, mean, yeah like you could tell me you. 730 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 2: CAN i can make a legitimate argument That chrysale on 731 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 2: a parning, basis especially Since may has been the best 732 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 2: picture in baseball like he's. 733 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 1: Been he has been on a true and you have 734 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 1: to make the. Case you look at the, numbers like 735 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 1: on a per start basis Since may, One, yeah he 736 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,799 Speaker 1: has been the best picture of. Baseball now he missed 737 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 1: some time in, there so his he has fewer. 738 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 2: Starts, yeah he's only gonna he's gonna he's gonna only 739 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 2: gonna end up with like twenty, starts and obviously the 740 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 2: league leaders always get thirty. 741 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 1: Two he's. In he's at nineteen right. Now but you 742 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 1: already said he has a better right than last year 743 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 1: or at least maybe The, yeah actually a better area 744 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 1: in the last. Year HIS fip is a little bit, 745 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 1: higher but his fIF is still two point four to 746 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 1: nine for the. Season like HE'S i, MEAN i know 747 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 1: he's getting. Old But Chris sale is like every TIME i, 748 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 1: THINK i hear something, like, well there's there's so much 749 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 1: there is uncertainty in the, rotation, clearly but you need 750 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,799 Speaker 1: to give The chrysale caveat it. Time Chris sale, IS 751 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:02,839 Speaker 1: i guess there's. 752 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 2: One the only the only uncertainty with him, is. 753 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 1: Of course there is injury. CONCERNS i, understand but in the, 754 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: age BUT i, mean the guy is, Absurd LIKE i don't, 755 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 1: Know i'm trying not to overstate it too. Much and 756 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 1: it gets same caveat gave earlier With Josees. Farez it 757 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 1: is The. Nationals It's september for this particular. Start but 758 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,120 Speaker 1: It's Chris. Sale he doesn't when you need the Caveat 759 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,320 Speaker 1: like he's JUST i. WASN'T i was not planning on 760 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,439 Speaker 1: talking About christie the night because we know he's really. 761 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 1: Good but when he throws eight shot at, innings it's, Like, 762 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 1: Okay Chris, Sale, Christal i'll knock it against. You let's 763 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 1: let's talk about. 764 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 2: It Se it's also just like the consummate, professional like 765 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 2: this is a lost. Season, yeah this is a game 766 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 2: In washington with fourteen people in the. Stands again two hour, 767 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 2: range there's probably more people in the dugouts than in 768 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 2: the stands in these, Games and like the dude is 769 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 2: just LIKE i don't. Care i'm a, professional this is 770 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 2: a professional baseball. Game i'm gonna go out and pitch 771 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,720 Speaker 2: my ass, off and like that's the kind of. Stuff 772 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,439 Speaker 2: Like i've said it, BEFORE i JUST i desperately wanted 773 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,959 Speaker 2: to get this guy to a postseason series and see 774 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 2: what he can do and see what The bridge can 775 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 2: do with him leading like a postseason, run BECAUSE i 776 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 2: think it could be magical done this for two years, 777 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 2: now we haven't been able to do, it But I'M 778 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 2: i desperately need to see this guy in a postseason. 779 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:20,919 Speaker 1: SERIES i would enjoy that quite a. Bit i'm trying 780 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 1: to find the whiff numbers. Today yeah he got twelve. 781 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 1: Whiffs you, know just all the. Stuff he was, absurd 782 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 1: he's he's crazy. Good and this game, today if you 783 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,439 Speaker 1: cant if you missed it On tuesday, night was zero 784 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 1: zero after. Nine so he had to be that good. 785 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 1: Too if there was no margin for, AIR i don't 786 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 1: think it was another results don't, matter trust, me we, 787 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 1: understand but he had to be that. GOOD i HAVE 788 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 1: i have one very on brand hammer territory thing to 789 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 1: ask you. About you already shaking your. Head you know, 790 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:51,800 Speaker 1: what you know it's coming, Caveats supply we know this doesn't. 791 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 1: MATTER i promise you we know it doesn't. MATTER i texted, 792 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 1: you we're not talkt us about. This all night. Long 793 00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 1: we were all talking about the. Game we were just 794 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,439 Speaker 1: getting ready to do THE pokt and ALL i said 795 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:06,880 Speaker 1: Was brewhan question, mark question, mark question mark because the 796 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 1: brand in a tie game zeros Here Brian snicker used 797 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 1: for brun as a pinch hitter with a runner on 798 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:18,919 Speaker 1: third and one, out pinch hitter and at the, time 799 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 1: this is the important. Detail number, one he hit for 800 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 1: hit for na shoe. ALBARIS i don't know If i'd 801 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:25,799 Speaker 1: do it. ANYWAY i Think i'd probably just rather have not. 802 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:27,279 Speaker 1: Show And i'm not even the biggest. Guy BUT i 803 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 1: think he's a BETTER i think he's a better here 804 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 1: Than breuhan. Already that's number. One. Yes the more important thing, 805 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 1: though is that The braves had Both Drake baldwin and 806 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,839 Speaker 1: Hass On kim available on the bench at the, time 807 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaker 1: Because kim hit the next batter For Nick, allen which is, 808 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 1: okay but there's one if the one out played appearance 809 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 1: is the bigger played, appearance that all you need to 810 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 1: do there is get a sack fly and you are 811 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 1: taking the leave of the. 812 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 2: Game and this is What chris selling, them, man like 813 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 2: you know this one run might hold? Up literally is 814 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 2: the game like a hold? Up Drake baldwin on the, Bench. 815 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:07,840 Speaker 1: Dakkim so obviously they Had Nick. Allen so the funniest 816 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 1: part about the lamp today it's a, doubleheader but this 817 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,440 Speaker 1: is a lineup that Had Sandy leone And Nick allen in. 818 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 1: It it was kind of a nice and, nacho kind 819 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 1: of a nice throwback to earlier in the year when 820 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 1: it was like so dire with it with the. Lineup 821 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 1: so that's how you end up with this situation where 822 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 1: like you're trying to you're trying to score a run 823 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:28,279 Speaker 1: badly late in the, game and you're managing it. Heavily and, 824 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,960 Speaker 1: yes obviously you're gonna hit For Nick, allen but you 825 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,759 Speaker 1: could hit With kim, first and then if you want 826 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,440 Speaker 1: to Have breuhan hit, next or Have drake or Have 827 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,840 Speaker 1: drake hit, next whatever you want to, do you can do. 828 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 1: That you don't have Brew han take that to that 829 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 1: point in the. Game the highest leverage of bat in 830 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 1: the game was purposely given to Dal. 831 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 2: Brahn AND i want to make sure people understand, this 832 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:54,359 Speaker 2: but Deel brun has a lower CAREER wsc plus Than Nick, 833 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,360 Speaker 2: allen like he is a he is just as like 834 00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,719 Speaker 2: whenever you Think Nick allen's offense is Del bruhan is 835 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 2: at the same, level or possibly at a lower. Level 836 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 2: so like that's the level of hitter we're talking. About 837 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,360 Speaker 2: who is the first guy off the bench with a 838 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,280 Speaker 2: runner on third with one out as the go ahead 839 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 2: run With Drake baldwin and and, Listen Hassak kim came 840 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:16,920 Speaker 2: to the plate with two out and he had a 841 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,719 Speaker 2: bad play To. Prince he on three. Pitches but that's the. 842 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 2: Result we're not talking about. Results we're talking about. Pross 843 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,719 Speaker 2: Like Hassak kim is a so much of a better 844 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,760 Speaker 2: hitter Than Midel, brewhan it's not even. Funny Drake baldwin 845 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 2: is a better hitter than both of. Them this is 846 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:32,840 Speaker 2: the go. Ahead it doesn't. Matter the race, suck the season's. 847 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:33,400 Speaker 1: Over it doesn't. 848 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,799 Speaker 2: Matter this is the kind of stuff that drives us. 849 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,440 Speaker 1: Crazy, yes so if the if this. 850 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,200 Speaker 2: Game, mattered we would have led the show with this 851 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 2: and if they had like, lost. 852 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 1: Really maybe honestly, not but just TO i know there's 853 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:52,319 Speaker 1: MAYBE i think clearly just loves he clearly likes he. 854 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:53,839 Speaker 2: Think there's something About brewhan he. 855 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 1: Loves but but it's it's funny BECAUSE i just do 856 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,720 Speaker 1: to make SURE i wasn't, crazy BECAUSE i know the career, 857 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 1: NUMBERS i know his note to the, season but he 858 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:04,439 Speaker 1: wasn't always with The, Braves SO i was, like maybe 859 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 1: he has a Good maybe he has a better line 860 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,359 Speaker 1: with The braves That i'm remembering him, having and maybe 861 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 1: that's what stickers are want going off, of like just 862 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 1: his back of the baseball car for this. Season no 863 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:17,200 Speaker 1: with The. Braves he has a six fifteen ops like 864 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 1: he's not been good at the plate for The. BRAVES i. 865 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:24,560 Speaker 1: DON'T i don't. Know it's an absolutely strange. Thing i'm 866 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,720 Speaker 1: laughing bringing it up BECAUSE i know it doesn't, matter 867 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:28,480 Speaker 1: and someone will tell us it doesn't, matter like we don't. 868 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 1: Know it's always funny to read. That it's like guys 869 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 1: who cares season's. Over it's like we understand even. 870 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:37,400 Speaker 2: Like even Like Eli, white it's got like yes seven. 871 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,839 Speaker 1: Like Eli white is a is not a great. Hitter 872 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,760 Speaker 1: he's a better hitter than all. Right moving right, Along 873 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,840 Speaker 1: as we covered briefly in live fashion, earlier The braves 874 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,960 Speaker 1: did win this game five nothing in. Ten the big 875 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 1: swing was My olson, triple But Balin bawman drove the 876 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,839 Speaker 1: first round. Home The braves has not won four games 877 00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 1: in a row because they won this. Game so if 878 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:03,240 Speaker 1: you are a again a taken fun, observer the braves 879 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:08,040 Speaker 1: chances to be second in the lottery are basically none 880 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,880 Speaker 1: now because The. Pirates they now have four wins in The, 881 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:15,320 Speaker 1: PIRATES i, think AND i can't imagine The pirates winning 882 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,839 Speaker 1: four more games than The braves over the next over 883 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:18,400 Speaker 1: the next week and a. 884 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,520 Speaker 2: Half The pirates never. Win they are they might not 885 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 2: win four games next. 886 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 1: Year, yeah SO i think The braves probably are going 887 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:30,480 Speaker 1: to be fourth answered in the lottery. Now so if 888 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,919 Speaker 1: you were someone rooting against, wins these four wins took 889 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,840 Speaker 1: The braves down a peg or two in the, lottery you. 890 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,839 Speaker 1: Know but they they they're gonna win this. Series there 891 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 1: is an argument for. Vibes we've never been Like zelots 892 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,319 Speaker 1: on the, pod like they have to lose every. GAME 893 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:49,080 Speaker 1: i get that, too trust, me there's some nuance. There but, 894 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,240 Speaker 1: uh if you were rooting for, losses this wing streak 895 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 1: is still. Time but there you. Go before we, Go, 896 00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,799 Speaker 1: stephen we should at least mention you AND i took 897 00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,880 Speaker 1: it in a, game not. Together we were both in 898 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 1: the same building and when we talked and met up 899 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:10,040 Speaker 1: On friday it was a comical, loss which we knew 900 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,600 Speaker 1: was gonna happen when we were. There BUT i bring 901 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,400 Speaker 1: that up Because hurst And walthrop's the pitcher we saw On, 902 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 1: friday and he's pitching the series. Finale On wednesday. Afternoon 903 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,680 Speaker 1: when we last saw, him he had his worst start 904 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:28,200 Speaker 1: of his, season by a. Lot and actually you AND 905 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:29,719 Speaker 1: i did not debrief after this at. ALL i don't 906 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,560 Speaker 1: know what you. THINK i don't think he was as 907 00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,879 Speaker 1: BAD i said on the show On. SUNDAY i don't 908 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,400 Speaker 1: think he was as bad as the line. Indicated he 909 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:41,239 Speaker 1: got kind of singled to. Death BUT i also think 910 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,520 Speaker 1: he wasn't particularly good, Either AND i wonder what you 911 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,160 Speaker 1: thought of, that and also what you think about this next, 912 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,480 Speaker 1: one BECAUSE i, mean, look anytime for this late this, 913 00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,320 Speaker 1: season there's a chance this is your last start of the, 914 00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,960 Speaker 1: year like if they just. Decide you mentioned it. EARLIER 915 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,399 Speaker 1: i think his endings total was so, high like there's 916 00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,080 Speaker 1: a chance they shut a guy down at any, point 917 00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,160 Speaker 1: but he is the probable for. Tomorrow i'm assuming his the. 918 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:01,719 Speaker 1: Pitch what are you looking for for? 919 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:05,440 Speaker 2: That, YEAH i. AGREE i mean it was from my vantage. 920 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:06,719 Speaker 2: POINT i was on the right. FIELD i know you 921 00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:08,880 Speaker 2: were behind the. Plate it was actually tough for me to, 922 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,319 Speaker 2: see like command, wise where he. WAS i was just 923 00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,200 Speaker 2: seeing the, results and the results were like every batter 924 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,799 Speaker 2: was a single up the. MIDDLE i think he gave 925 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:17,759 Speaker 2: up one extra base. 926 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,400 Speaker 1: Hit it was it was it was the homer he, 927 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,759 Speaker 1: allowed the he allowed The homer to the guy making 928 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:27,120 Speaker 1: his first major league appearance that he ever saw the major. 929 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,439 Speaker 2: Leagues it was like one inning he just couldn't get 930 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,480 Speaker 2: like the last, out like he was just single up the, 931 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,440 Speaker 2: middle single up the, middle single up the. Middle so 932 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,080 Speaker 2: that's that's Gonna, YEAH i mean he just got bad itpped. 933 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,440 Speaker 2: Basically So I'M I i have my guard up With 934 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,040 Speaker 2: herston waldrip, anyway LIKE i am not All like there's 935 00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,040 Speaker 2: people who are all. In i'm not there. Yet the 936 00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:49,000 Speaker 2: command still worries. Me he's had, multiple like five six walk. 937 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:55,000 Speaker 2: Games you, know it's his repertoire deep enough to consistently 938 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,160 Speaker 2: get hitters out after they've made, adjustments like they're gonna make. 939 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,600 Speaker 2: Adjustments he's. Been he's got a plenty tape, now especially 940 00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,000 Speaker 2: going in the next, Year like there's a whole level 941 00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:05,880 Speaker 2: to this thing he hasn't gotten to. Yet SO i 942 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,720 Speaker 2: still have my guard, up but not because Of. Friday 943 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,719 Speaker 2: THAT i getting bad bipped around doesn't doesn't bother me. 944 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,960 Speaker 1: Much, YEAH i THINK i mentioned it Was scott BECAUSE i. 945 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:19,840 Speaker 1: Didn't he had his worst location plus of the. 946 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,080 Speaker 2: Year so his, command his command is a thing that 947 00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:23,880 Speaker 2: matters a. 948 00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:27,320 Speaker 1: Lot, yeah and it has BEEN i think universally better 949 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:32,359 Speaker 1: than people. EXPECTED i think his location plus is like one, 950 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,520 Speaker 1: hundred which is lee, average and you will take that 951 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,440 Speaker 1: his stuff is good enough where if he can locate 952 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,719 Speaker 1: at the league average, level you're in good. Shape and, 953 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,480 Speaker 1: that's you, know a great sign for him hopefully. Continues 954 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,799 Speaker 1: and While i'm kind of with you having my guard, 955 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,040 Speaker 1: up THE E R A b and the two's, LIKE 956 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,719 Speaker 1: i don't know IF i believe, that BUT i do 957 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,520 Speaker 1: like the fact that his underlying numbers are worse than, 958 00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,040 Speaker 1: that but they're pretty. Good like there's still like a 959 00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,120 Speaker 1: fip in the, three like fipp in the mid, Threes 960 00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,399 Speaker 1: like he's pitching like a REAL ae week. 961 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,400 Speaker 2: Starter, yeah all, usable all usable. 962 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,560 Speaker 1: Stuff even if THE era was flocishly low to begin the, 963 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:11,440 Speaker 1: season there's some good stuff there and we won't really 964 00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,440 Speaker 1: get it all. Now But scott AND i got the 965 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,919 Speaker 1: usual feedback On, sunday like every time we'll talk about, 966 00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,080 Speaker 1: this we got the same feedback about how we were 967 00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,360 Speaker 1: adamant they have to add more starting, pitching and people 968 00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,560 Speaker 1: start listing names off and they get to six or 969 00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,279 Speaker 1: seven and they're, like, oh we're, fine and it doesn't 970 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,239 Speaker 1: matter what we say or how many times do you 971 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:31,080 Speaker 1: have eighteen starters in the? Season? Whatever but what if 972 00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:32,760 Speaker 1: is another. EXAMPLE i don't mean it's in a negative. 973 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,359 Speaker 1: Way he's an example of a guy that people are 974 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,239 Speaker 1: just so sure is gonna be written in pen as 975 00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,360 Speaker 1: the four starters of him next, year AND i Just 976 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,960 Speaker 1: i'm not there. Yet maybe maybe he will, be maybe 977 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,600 Speaker 1: he takes A schwollenbach, leap and we're, like, look it 978 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:47,480 Speaker 1: didn't take us that. LONG a few months in we're, like, 979 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:51,239 Speaker 1: Hey schowlamuck's a. Guy guy in capital, letters and he. 980 00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:55,040 Speaker 1: Is but until you see, That i'm not gonna write 981 00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,480 Speaker 1: it in Pen i'm just Not so we'll see he's a. 982 00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,759 Speaker 1: Guy he's gonna he's gonna matter next. YEAR i just 983 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:00,520 Speaker 1: don't know in what. 984 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:04,520 Speaker 2: Way, well And i'll say, this first of, All brace 985 00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,680 Speaker 2: fans should, know like we've seen plenty of prospects come, 986 00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,160 Speaker 2: up have good years or maybe good half a year's 987 00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,279 Speaker 2: good year and a, half and then they get. Hurt 988 00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,280 Speaker 2: they're never the. Same Like brace fans should be aware 989 00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,360 Speaker 2: that we should not be counting our chickens On hurston waldrip. 990 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,960 Speaker 2: Yet BUT i will say him getting to the point 991 00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:24,560 Speaker 2: this year where he's become an actual legitimate candidate to 992 00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:28,279 Speaker 2: help next. Year. Yep is such a massive move from 993 00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,520 Speaker 2: where he was even like three months. Ago LIKE i 994 00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:33,920 Speaker 2: was really beginning to wane if he's a, reliever and 995 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,360 Speaker 2: there was people that are smarter than us about prospects 996 00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,360 Speaker 2: who are, like this guy's a. Reliever he doesn't have 997 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,840 Speaker 2: a useful enough fastball to be a. Starter. Yep It 998 00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:43,880 Speaker 2: LIKE i was kind of coming to the end of 999 00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:47,200 Speaker 2: My Hurston waldrip, interest to be honest with. You so 1000 00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,759 Speaker 2: the fact that we're here and he's actually even a 1001 00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:53,600 Speaker 2: possibility for the next year's rotation is a big. Deal but, 1002 00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:57,000 Speaker 2: yes one hundred, percent people should still very much have 1003 00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,680 Speaker 2: their guard up. Here we have not anywhere close to scene. 1004 00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,440 Speaker 1: Enough it's been a grant to your, point it's been 1005 00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:06,640 Speaker 1: A Grand slam kind of stretch For. Walldrops, like no 1006 00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,080 Speaker 1: question about. It we're not downplaying. That it's been a really, 1007 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:12,640 Speaker 1: really really good and encouraging thing to go from. Fringy 1008 00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,759 Speaker 1: we don't know what's gonna happen to like clearly in the. 1009 00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:16,879 Speaker 1: Mix that's a big that's a big it's a big. 1010 00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:21,160 Speaker 1: Jump but, uh there are only three guys in the 1011 00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:25,120 Speaker 1: organization that if they are, HEALTHY i am sure are 1012 00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:30,080 Speaker 1: in the rotation next. Year three sale selling Back. 1013 00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,440 Speaker 2: Strider, yeah that's that's. 1014 00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:37,400 Speaker 1: The list Because lopez could be the bullpen and the 1015 00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:41,160 Speaker 1: shoulder injury is the shoulder, Injury holmes's injury. 1016 00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:45,279 Speaker 2: CONCERNS i will say If holmes is, healthy but they. 1017 00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:46,640 Speaker 1: Could put them in the, bullpen LIKE i don't. THINK 1018 00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,200 Speaker 1: i think they. DON'T i don't. THINK i don't think 1019 00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,319 Speaker 1: they're going. To but that's if healthy is huge there 1020 00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:52,880 Speaker 1: like he might have he thought might have to Have 1021 00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:54,279 Speaker 1: tom Of, John, like we don't know if that's gonna go. 1022 00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:58,680 Speaker 2: Yet if you're guaranteeing me, health, yeah. 1023 00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:00,600 Speaker 1: No if you're garranting, health it becomes to a. Conversation 1024 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,000 Speaker 1: but Because lopez is kind of the same, Thing LIKE 1025 00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,560 Speaker 1: i Think lopez is a clearly a top move guy 1026 00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:07,160 Speaker 1: in your. Organization if we will. 1027 00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,880 Speaker 2: Get into this, TONIGHT i have a whole like opinion On, lopez. 1028 00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:15,359 Speaker 1: But we'll save. It but, again there are only three 1029 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,200 Speaker 1: guys That i'm like as Of september, sixteenth AM i 1030 00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:21,160 Speaker 1: like writing in pen and the Rotation and that's even if, 1031 00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:22,879 Speaker 1: like if they're, healthy WHICH i assume they are because 1032 00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:24,680 Speaker 1: they are right NOW i knock on, wood but that 1033 00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:31,239 Speaker 1: means the other. Spots you, know name your Guys, Waldrip, Smith, Shover, Holmes, 1034 00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:35,000 Speaker 1: lopez whoever else you want to name throughout any guys you. 1035 00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:38,359 Speaker 1: Want it's a long. List Joey wentz if you were 1036 00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,319 Speaker 1: AND i love Of Joey, wentz if you are still 1037 00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,359 Speaker 1: a bright silver, believer whatever you want to do, there et. 1038 00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,719 Speaker 1: Cetera so, anyway we've gone long when it as we always, Do, 1039 00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,399 Speaker 1: steven But i'm intrigued to know it's an afternoon. Game 1040 00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,879 Speaker 1: i'm intrigued by What waldrop looks like again in a follow, 1041 00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:55,160 Speaker 1: up because he had some adversity in his last, start 1042 00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:56,719 Speaker 1: like whether we thought he was as bad as he 1043 00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:58,400 Speaker 1: was or, not like it was some genuine Diverse they, 1044 00:49:58,440 --> 00:49:59,840 Speaker 1: got they, got they got beat, up that game was 1045 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:01,800 Speaker 1: game was over in a, hurry as we could attest 1046 00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:05,080 Speaker 1: having been. There but a bounce back opportunity and a 1047 00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,480 Speaker 1: relatively from the one like an easier matchup for, Sure 1048 00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:09,799 Speaker 1: and it's on the, road but The nationals is not the, 1049 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,560 Speaker 1: actress so this should be a little bit. Easier we'll 1050 00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,120 Speaker 1: see how this goes for. Him that's definitely the number 1051 00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:18,520 Speaker 1: one THING i am watching for On wednesday. AFTERNOON i 1052 00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:20,360 Speaker 1: think we'll have the show after the. Game i'm not. 1053 00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:21,879 Speaker 1: Sure i'm not going to guarantee that BECAUSE i don't 1054 00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:23,239 Speaker 1: we don't do, that BUT i think it'll be a 1055 00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:23,839 Speaker 1: show at some point. 1056 00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,360 Speaker 2: Tomorrow just, saying, well he should be used to pitching 1057 00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,719 Speaker 2: in front of like two thousand, people because that's what 1058 00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:29,120 Speaker 2: you do in the. 1059 00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,719 Speaker 1: Minors so and it's also what they did a couple 1060 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:35,399 Speaker 1: of times At truest this weekend as. Well all, Right, 1061 00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,560 Speaker 1: steven well thank you for doing. This. People people should 1062 00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,279 Speaker 1: be following your musings on social. Media you are at 1063 00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,239 Speaker 1: the underscore, outliers is that? 1064 00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,120 Speaker 2: Correct, yeah you can follow me. Listen the season's coming 1065 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,880 Speaker 2: to an. End, obviously WHAT i kind of built my 1066 00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,279 Speaker 2: account on was live training. Games we're not going to 1067 00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,400 Speaker 2: be live teeting many games much. More and obviously the 1068 00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,719 Speaker 2: season has gone in the, tank SO i can't say 1069 00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:57,600 Speaker 2: That i've been live tweeting a. Bunch but if you 1070 00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:59,719 Speaker 2: do want to come and, follow we do talk about 1071 00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:01,279 Speaker 2: the break is a. Lot if you care about The 1072 00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:04,839 Speaker 2: falcons or college. Football college basketball is about to start 1073 00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,319 Speaker 2: up probably my second favorite, sport so YOU. 1074 00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,600 Speaker 1: I, mean you do support a basketball school. 1075 00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:12,839 Speaker 2: And we're a full on basketball. School. 1076 00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:17,640 Speaker 1: Though, uh that got Just servey knows that wasn't a serious. 1077 00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,600 Speaker 1: Comment people be mad at. ME i have No i'm 1078 00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,440 Speaker 1: not in The steven Versus sewan wars in THE. SEC 1079 00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,040 Speaker 1: i stay out of. This seawan's, not by the, Way 1080 00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:30,359 Speaker 1: shawn's also not Ducking. Steven that was Always See sean 1081 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,080 Speaker 1: is under the weather a. Bit Hopefully sean comes back 1082 00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:35,759 Speaker 1: as soon as. Tomorrow we'll see How sean. Feels but, 1083 00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:37,000 Speaker 1: UH i, LISTEN i. 1084 00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,040 Speaker 2: CAN'T i can't talk. ANYTHING i can't say Anything sean 1085 00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,960 Speaker 2: about losing To. Georgia bama's about to go Play. Georgia 1086 00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,560 Speaker 2: we're gonna get. DESTROYED i just. 1087 00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,719 Speaker 1: Look forward to the first public interaction between the two 1088 00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:51,000 Speaker 1: of you on a. Podcast, uh it's always. Entertaining and 1089 00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,600 Speaker 1: Then i'm also pretty to the occasional private, interaction which 1090 00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,520 Speaker 1: they are even funnier generally, speaking and. Less there are 1091 00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,480 Speaker 1: less things being withheld in the private space than we. 1092 00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:02,439 Speaker 2: Are if our private stuff ever got, out we would 1093 00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:03,239 Speaker 2: be canceled. 1094 00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,879 Speaker 1: Immediately all, Right, steven thank you for doing. This ask 1095 00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:09,200 Speaker 1: everybody else please subscribe To Hammer. Territory Follow, steven follow 1096 00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,520 Speaker 1: me if you want to about braves and other. Things 1097 00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:13,080 Speaker 1: we'll see everybody next. Time