1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:10,719 Speaker 1: Uh, did you have a shout out? You want to 2 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: take it? And I wanted to say hello, good morning, 3 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:16,959 Speaker 1: whatever time it is to my girl Ronda, that's my mom. 4 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 1: My mom listens every episode and told me in chip 5 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: that last week it was way better that we were 6 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: in person. We're already like, it's nine thirty in the morning. 7 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: This is early for us, and it's not true, but 8 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: we're like giggling, maybe we should do it in the 9 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: morning tomorrow. I actually we were supposed to record last night, 10 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: and I was so brain dead by the end of 11 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: the day that I was really grateful. Why are you smiling? 12 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: I'm so grateful that we did it. Decided to do 13 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: it this morning because I am also in a good mood. 14 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: You know what else happened today? Mars went out of retrograde. 15 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: There's a lot of aggressive energy with that, and so 16 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: we've been in a backwards pool, um, you know, just 17 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: going through different things like that, and so stepping in 18 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: today maybe that's why we feel a little bit lighter 19 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: mercury and I feel like it's always in retrograde. Well, 20 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: I'm not actually an astrologer. I don't know if you 21 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: know that about me. I talked about it a lot, 22 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 1: but I'm not actually an astrologer and oh yeah yeah, 23 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: it's at least three or four I want to say, um, 24 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: but yeah, so anyway, what up, mom? Hi, I'm glad 25 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 1: you like a better in person, and I think most 26 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: of our responses actually are that the energy is just better. 27 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: Yeah it really is. Yeah yeah. Um. So we were 28 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: talking there's a little bit of like I was kind 29 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: of bumping up against I don't know how I want 30 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: to introduce this topic because this pop Culture Week here, 31 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: and there's one topic that I don't think that you 32 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 1: could live in this world right now and avoid, like 33 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: if you like you literally must live under the biggest 34 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: rock if you don't know about this. And we're talking 35 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: about Prince Harry and Megan um and so we really 36 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: felt like we can't not talk about this. But I 37 00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: also I'm really tired of even contru beating to this 38 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: like divisive, opinionated nature that's happening in our world, and 39 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: it's exhausting to me, Like even researching for this, I 40 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: was very much like do we want to do this? 41 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: You know, like because it's just everyone giving their opinion 42 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 1: and that's so old, Like I'm so tired of that um, 43 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:19,959 Speaker 1: but we were able to kind of come up with 44 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: this idea because everything we do within a month is 45 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: typically based off of our words of the month, our 46 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: themes of the month, and this month we have chosen 47 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,239 Speaker 1: the words dare and purpose. The year. Well, I was 48 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: about to get to that, but because those are Chip 49 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 1: and Eye words for the year. So my word was 50 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 1: dare and we discussed that last week. If you guys 51 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: haven't listened to the podcast, each year I said an intention, 52 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 1: and Chip has started doing this as well for the year, 53 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: like an overall energy of the year that I want 54 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,679 Speaker 1: to walk into. We talked about last month last year, 55 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 1: how our words really did play out in the way 56 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: that our lives went, and so I really believe in 57 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 1: this process. I think it's almost like a manifesting type 58 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: of thing. And my word is dare. Chip's word is purpose. 59 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: And regardless of where you stand with Harry and Megan, 60 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,839 Speaker 1: I do not think that you could deny that there 61 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: is a lot of daring and there is a lot 62 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: of purpose going on behind what's happening right now. Would 63 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 1: you agree with that? I mean, look, I have always 64 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 1: had friends that were obsessed with the royals, and I've 65 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: never gotten it. I literally could give two ships to me. 66 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: It's this big reality show. Well it's literally like the 67 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: Kardashians are ours. That's what I always say. Um. But 68 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: over Christmas, I did watch the Netflix special, just not 69 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: a curiosity like and not even because I wanted to 70 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: have an opinion on it, you know, like everyone was 71 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: talking about I'm gonna watch it, and I was like 72 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: really moved by their relationship, you know, like because I 73 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: felt like everything that I had seen up until that 74 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: point was literally just opinions of them and this. And 75 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: I know they produced it, they had their hand in 76 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: like the outcome of it, which you know I would 77 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: too if I were them, because that was they lost 78 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: control of that. I never not get the executive producers. 79 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: You've heard me say that before, but I'll say it again. 80 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: I felt like, you know, I finally sort of understood 81 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: them as people, not as public figures, just as two 82 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: people in love. And I kind of loved that, um 83 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: And it made me have UM And I like, again, 84 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: I had no opinion, so but it like made me 85 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: had compassion for them that you know, I've never had 86 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: before because I didn't care, you know, I didn't I 87 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: didn't have vitriol. I didn't I just didn't have an opinion. 88 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 1: But I do think it's a really beautiful love story, 89 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 1: and I think it's like it's really sad and painful 90 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: to watch it be dissected by people that like, literally 91 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: I have nothing to do with it, don't you know? 92 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: Like everyone feels like they're owed something from these two people, 93 00:04:55,600 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: um and um, including just honesty and um. Yeah. And 94 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 1: from where I sit, it looks like they're being honest. 95 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 1: It sounds like they're being It feels like they're being 96 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: honest and um. And granted I also am not one 97 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: of those people that was like an Internet sloth that 98 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: has like done all the digging and tried to find 99 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: pull up old quotes and ship um. But to me, 100 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:25,239 Speaker 1: it feels like, um, you know, they are being honest, 101 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: and now that they are, people are like trying to 102 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: prove that they're not being honesty. UM. I don't want 103 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 1: to be part of that problem me either. And I mean, 104 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: I think the big thing to remember always is that 105 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: as much as we can have opinions on the information 106 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: we're being presented, no one knows except for those people 107 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,919 Speaker 1: what's actually going on. And I just always feel like 108 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 1: I want to make that point because my brain even 109 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: gets sucked into it, and you think you know these people, 110 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 1: and especially people who live very public lives like them 111 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: to where we've been dissecting that, like Prince Harry. He 112 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 1: has been in the public eye since he was born, 113 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 1: literally the day after he was born or something exactly, 114 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 1: and so you feel you do feel like you know them, 115 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: and you do have this sense of entitlement over their life, 116 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: even if we don't want to say that we do. 117 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: I think there is some sort of subconscious programming to that. 118 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: It's the same as people feel about reality stars, like, oh, 119 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: we see their life play out on TV. Now you don't, 120 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: by the way, you just don't like And I've I'm 121 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: so guilty of this too. I'm not just saying this 122 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: like to every other everyone else. Um, I think I've 123 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 1: experienced another flip side now and so it kind of 124 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: jolts me into a different place with it is like 125 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: you just simply don't know. And so I've also been 126 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 1: very drawn to this. I've never been obsessed with the royals. 127 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: I do remember when Princess Diana died being very sad 128 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: and like knowing that that was a really big bad 129 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: deal kind of because of the way it went down, 130 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 1: in the way my parents were responding and just being 131 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: there witnessing it was sad. It was just a sad thing. 132 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: But that's about as far as the royal interest has 133 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: gone for me until now. I have become obsessed. Like 134 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: I think I've watched almost every interview that they have done, 135 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: specifically it's been Harry Right now, I'm reading the book, 136 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: which is great. Oh my god. I did the audio 137 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: book because I like the way he talks too, so 138 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: it's like perfect, perfect background. But it's just so fascinating. 139 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: I mean, their life is fascinating. I have really become 140 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: very drawn to him because I can see how much 141 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: work that I think he's done, Like he talks openly 142 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: about therapy and psychedelics and similar stuff that I talk about, 143 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: but I see it translating into the way he's being 144 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: like giving interviews, and so I'm in awe. I'm just like, 145 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: to me, what drew me to both of them is 146 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: the word dare and daring, and I find what they're 147 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: doing to be so fascinating. But also I'm I can't 148 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: think of another word besides all, what's another word. I'm 149 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: just like, oh my god. I mean, you can't really 150 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: replace it. Yeah, but I understand. I think how difficult 151 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: what they're doing is, and the way that they're able 152 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: to verbalize what happened, um, speak about it in a 153 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: way that you can tell they're angry, but they're not 154 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: being vicious, Like it doesn't feel dirty to me. I 155 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: think they feel like I think they're more hurt, yeah, 156 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: but but anger comes out because and I think that 157 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: like the anger is towards the British Press, the hurt 158 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: is towards the family. Maybe yeah, you know, but they're 159 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: kind of one and the same. They call they call 160 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: the British press the third leg of the the UK government. Um, 161 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 1: you know. I it's it's funny because I feel like 162 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 1: as a general, the public feels like particularly probably the 163 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: British public, but you know, anyone who's invested in the Royals, 164 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 1: like they probably feel the same way. But like, because 165 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: they are public servants, they feel like they're owed something 166 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 1: and so um and obviously incredibly wealthy and privileged and 167 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: all interesting that you just call them servants though well, 168 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: I mean they are a public servant, like they It's 169 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: weird because you would call the presidents a public servant 170 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: to you know, it's like, yeah, I just don't think 171 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: we're any human in that capacity. Yet we confuse that 172 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: right and you know they live they live an incredibly 173 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:25,559 Speaker 1: privileged life off of tax pair dollars all that stuff. UM, 174 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: And so seemingly that should translate to um, he has 175 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: a lot to lose, and he's choosing on purpose to 176 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: walk away from it because of his truth. And I 177 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: think that anyone who can't see that is choosing not 178 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: to it is UM. I just can't understand why anyone 179 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: would think that he is lying about this, like and 180 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 1: still think that like he's privileged because it's like he 181 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: is giving up a lot of I mean, and granted 182 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: he is still more wealthy than people will ever be UM. 183 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: Because the story is really interesting. So Netflix paid them 184 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: a hundred million dollars for this all the content they're 185 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: going to get, and I think you got twenty million 186 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 1: for the book. But I think what you made a 187 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: really good point before we started recording. Do you want 188 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: to talk about that a little bit about just I 189 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: think when people hear those numbers specifically even or you know, 190 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: maybe the fact that people are just interested in him, 191 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: and people get jealous of that, Like people are fascinated 192 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,079 Speaker 1: with him, and so they're always going to want to 193 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: know about his life. And then there's other people in 194 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: this world who are working so hard to make people care. 195 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: So there is some sort of sense of jealousy. Maybe, Yeah, 196 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: I look. I thought about that this morning, and my 197 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: only explanation that I can come up with is that 198 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: the general populace puts rich and famous sort of at 199 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:54,839 Speaker 1: the pinel pinnacle of success, fame even over rich, because 200 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people assume that if you're famous, 201 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: you are rich, and that could not be further for 202 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:05,079 Speaker 1: them exactly. Um so um. If you are rich and famous, 203 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 1: you literally are the pinnacle of success. And most people 204 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: don't even know what that means. They just see it 205 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: and they see people talking about and they see people 206 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: on magazines and on TV, and so they have an 207 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: idea of what they think it is. And I think 208 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: because we look at it as the pinnacle of success, 209 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 1: those of us who don't have it, there's some jealousy, 210 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: and that's where the expectations of it. Even if you 211 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: don't know there's jealousy, there is something because it looks 212 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: really fun. Who doesn't want to be rich, who doesn't 213 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: want to be famous? Let me tell you you don't 214 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: want to be famous? It is not all that it's 215 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: cracked up to. There are perks like you can't deny that, 216 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: and getting to go to cool events or backstage places 217 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 1: and all these things that does. That is a part 218 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: of it, but there's a lot that comes with it 219 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: that I don't think. I mean, these two are a 220 00:11:54,760 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: perfect example, like the exact opposite of what can happen um, 221 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: and there is zero controlling that zero controlling. Like I 222 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 1: was as I was telling you, I was watching the 223 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: Stephen Colbert interview this morning, and if you guys haven't 224 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 1: watched that with Prince Harry, it's a really good interview 225 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,599 Speaker 1: because he gets to the bottom of some stuff and 226 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: talks about the book a lot. But he also is 227 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: like obviously really funny because it's Stephen Colbert and Harry 228 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,199 Speaker 1: is really funny. So he's just very likable, Like I 229 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: just really like him, um from what I'm seeing in interviews, 230 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: but he's nice to look out to. He is so cute. 231 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: It's so interesting because when I was a kid, I 232 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 1: had a crush on William Like also William was my 233 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: age be whore. That hair went bye bye, yeah, and 234 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: then things shifted. He's changed well. He does also scowl 235 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 1: a lot, like he just looks and Harry, he seems 236 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: light and happy. I think you're right, Um, But I 237 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: was watching that interview and and then I was kind 238 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: of reading some articles about it, and they were talking 239 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: about how Harry has had two really up security since 240 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: the book came out because of that one thing he's 241 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: mentioned about killing Taliban member of the Taliban, and Um, 242 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: it's taken completely out of context and a lot of 243 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: the stories that were written about it before the book 244 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: came out, but it puts a target on his back, 245 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: and so they've had to like really up security and 246 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: he has armed guards walking around with him everywhere. And 247 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: that's the stuff people don't think about. Being scared to 248 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: leave your house or like getting death threats like that 249 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: is something that I've never You cannot explain what it 250 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: feels like, but it feels it is. It's like being 251 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: trapped in your own body, like and and then like 252 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: constantly living in fear, not being able to be comfortable 253 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: in any capacity, like literally, it's just a crazy person 254 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: on the internet doesn't your nervous system doesn't translate that, 255 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 1: like there is some sort of sense of like I'm 256 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: not okay to where you can't fully relax no matter 257 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: what you're doing, and that is weird, Like being in 258 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: your own house not being able to relax is a 259 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,199 Speaker 1: weird fucking feeling. But you know what it takes. It 260 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: takes being daring and purpose totally actually get up and 261 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: leave the house to go do what you have to 262 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 1: do well. And this is where, right, this is where 263 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: I'm at all because I'm like they, you know, they're 264 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: the day the word dare whenever we were talking about 265 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: last week, one of the definitions I don't know if 266 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: you remember this was like, um, being scared but walking 267 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: forward anyway. And to me, I'm like, that is exactly 268 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: what they're doing. And a lot of the negative feedback 269 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: people are getting, especially Megan, like people go after her 270 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: so hard, which I don't fully understand, um, but they're 271 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: saying like, oh, they're chasing fame. Oh you you wanted 272 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: your privacy, but now you're going to go out and 273 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: write this book or you're gonna go do all these interviews. 274 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: One I've never heard them say they want privacy I've 275 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: heard them say they don't want to be abused, and 276 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: like the amount of um threat or negative comments or 277 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: articles is insane. I was telling you last night, there's 278 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: there's something I read that said the Prince Andrew who 279 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: was accused of pedophilia, had let's say, seven thousand articles 280 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: written about that. In the same it was maybe let's 281 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: let's call it a day just for ships and giggles. 282 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: I don't remember if it was a day or just 283 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: like incapacity of like this little storyline. Yes, um, but 284 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: seven thousand that same news cycle or day or whatever 285 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: you want to say. Megan Markle, who hadn't done anything, 286 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: had twenty four thousands something articles written about her, mostly negative. 287 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: So it's like, I don't think people are really processing 288 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: the amount of abuse and negativity that they were receiving, 289 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: which is it's far more than anyone in that royal 290 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 1: family has and anyone famous. This isn't normal for fame either. 291 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: This is like next level kind of ship. Um. But okay, 292 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: So the daring like they're walking forward anyway, And I 293 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: think it's so interesting because people are like thinking they're 294 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: chasing more fame, and I'm like, I'm confused. They were famous, 295 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: like doing public jobs before this went down. So you're 296 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: asking them now to completely change who they are because 297 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: they got attacked. Like, I actually don't think that that logic, No, 298 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: it doesn't, but people forget that. It's like Harry, it 299 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: was like, look, Megan grew up a normal girl. You know, 300 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: this was the path she was on that she chose. 301 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: Harry did not get to choose his life. He has 302 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: been famous since he was in the womb. He can't 303 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: not be famous, Like, he has no choice in the matter. 304 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: His life will be public unless he decides to live 305 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: in his house as a fucking hermit, and people will 306 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: still write about it and write about him. I was 307 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: so there was a sixteen interview that I watched last 308 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: night with and there was a moment um in it 309 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: where they showed him and William at Diana's funeral in 310 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: this like receipt. I had to go down. He's twelve 311 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: years old, by the way, the whole thing was so 312 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: he's twelve years old, and he said, like he's walking 313 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: down this line, shaking hands with adoring fans and citizens 314 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 1: of his mother um, and he's emotionally he actually looks happy, 315 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 1: And he said he I mean, he like it took 316 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: him to adulthood to cry about his mother's death, and 317 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 1: he said the weirdest thing for him was realizing that 318 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:29,199 Speaker 1: these people were grieving harder than he was, and he 319 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: remembered their hands being wet from wiping away their tears, 320 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: and which you know, obviously that sounds fucking traumatic for 321 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: a twelve year old, but let's not forget that family 322 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 1: put him out there to do that, Like that is 323 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: the level of public life this kid has led to 324 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,959 Speaker 1: be asked to do that after your mother died. Is 325 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: so I could barely talked to my sister if my 326 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: mother died, you know what I mean, Like more or less, 327 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 1: thousands and thousands they were taking flowers from fans and 328 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: moving them. It's like servant. Yeah, you know, he starts 329 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: the book talking about I mean, the book basically starts 330 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: with Diana's death and just even the whole like him 331 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: being told by his dad and the whole thing of that. Yeah, 332 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: it's just so the whole thing to me is so sad, 333 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 1: and that to me is one of the biggest like 334 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: I have felt sad watching this unfold, um, and I 335 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 1: can I can get behind this part of maybe the 336 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: negative feedback they're getting of like this is a family 337 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: and it's being torn apart in front of our eyes, 338 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: and like the contribution their contributing to that now, even 339 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 1: you know, telling all these stories, I also will say, 340 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:44,880 Speaker 1: I don't know what choice they had to be able 341 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: to move forward in their own lives because it was 342 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 1: happening anyway. Like the part people are forgetting when you 343 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: say that, like this is all on Harry and Megan. No, 344 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: it's not like the family was leaking stories. They were 345 00:18:56,359 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: having private conversations trying to work this, work this through 346 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: behind the scenes, and that story would get leaked to 347 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: the press and so and to make that the part 348 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 1: of the family look better or you know what. Right now, 349 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 1: it's like I will have whatever conversations you all want to. Yeah, 350 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: you know, And I think people are like railing him 351 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 1: over that, but it's like, but you can't do it 352 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: in private, then let's do it publicly and you'll see 353 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: who's telling the truth. I was gonna say, the saddest 354 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: part about that is how little he can trust his 355 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,959 Speaker 1: own family, And like that's one of the things they 356 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 1: talked about this in Colbert. But he said, um that 357 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: when he started doing therapy was when his relationships with 358 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: the family started getting really strained because they were no 359 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: longer speaking the same language. Like and that's any dysfunctional 360 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: family system. You go along with the system for as 361 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 1: long as you do, and when someone says, hey, wait, 362 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:50,640 Speaker 1: this isn't right, this is toxic, this isn't like that 363 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: narrative that you're pitching or that um narrative we're all 364 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 1: operating under is unhealthy for me. And you raise your 365 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 1: hand and say that you're the black sheep immediately. And 366 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 1: so that's what's happening, and we're just watching it play out. 367 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 1: But I don't think that they can be put to 368 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 1: blame because the narrative was already public anyway, and people 369 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 1: are forgetting that point. I also think it's interesting that, 370 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 1: like anyone is surprised that it's Harry. I mean, this 371 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 1: is a kid who enlisted in the British Army and 372 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: I mean, he said in the interview in sixty minutes, 373 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: he said it wasn't until his military service in Afghanistan 374 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: that he found purpose in a sense of normalcy. He 375 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: said it saved him because it got him out of 376 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 1: the spotlight of the UK press and allowed him to 377 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 1: focus on a on having a purpose. UM. And I 378 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: think that's really important because it shows that he was 379 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: seeking this kid until his adulthood. I thought that there 380 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: was a chance that his mother was still alive because 381 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 1: of what he saw his family and the British press 382 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: due just to weave stories. He thought that she was 383 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: in hiding, that this was all just a big story 384 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:00,959 Speaker 1: to get rid of the mom can, I imagine is insane. 385 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: So it time to Um to get to a point where, 386 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: you know, he said something like he's now at peace 387 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 1: with his mother's death. Um, but he wants to turn 388 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: all that pain that he feels into purpose. So it's 389 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 1: not Um, it's not a surprise to me that he's 390 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: the one bucking the system. Like I feel like we 391 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: we we've been watching this unfold for a lot longer. 392 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: Megan is just the piece that like, UM, I think 393 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: she's the ingredient because she's bi racial, she's American, she 394 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 1: was a famous actress. There's all these reasons for people 395 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 1: to hate her that the press dug into. I mean, 396 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 1: they're tip of the press they dug into. But now 397 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 1: they can paint. It's easy to make the other like 398 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: the all the clues kind of go away because all 399 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: the focus can be on her and the marriage, and 400 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: he was working towards anyway. And I think, like the 401 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: empires have fallen throughout history, you know, like this empirical 402 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: sort of bullshit, like the fact that this queen had 403 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 1: any rain over Caribbean nations, Canada and Australia still is 404 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: absurd to me. It's absurd, um And so I think 405 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: we're starting to see this empire crumble a little bit. Yeah, 406 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 1: I mean I have two points to that. I think 407 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: you're totally right. You said something about him being on 408 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: his own journey for a long time, and that's starting, 409 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: you know, back when he joined the military, And I 410 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: agree with you. I think that he's been in his 411 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 1: own process of healing for a much longer time than 412 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: he's even been with Megan. Also believe that you wouldn't 413 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: pick a person like Megan and like someone who there 414 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:58,919 Speaker 1: was all this divisiveness around or whatever if you weren't 415 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: already on your own hath Like they seem to be 416 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:05,719 Speaker 1: very aligned at a soul level. And um, as far 417 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: as I can tell, all the charity work and stuff 418 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 1: like exactly, and I think people I want to put 419 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 1: that on her that she came in and wanted to 420 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:18,199 Speaker 1: change everything. You can't change someone who doesn't want to 421 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: be a part of that process. He already wanted to 422 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 1: be a part of the change, Like he was saying, 423 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 1: this isn't right too, He's like waving his hands. It 424 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: just wasn't as public maybe, And then she got made 425 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 1: into the villain, and so everyone put the focus on 426 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 1: her wanting to do that. She couldn't go walk in 427 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 1: and be like, hey, Harry, let's be together and let's 428 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 1: change the royal family, and it just happened if he wasn't. 429 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: In fact, I feel like she tried. She sort of 430 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 1: leaned into her duties and tried to She did everything 431 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: they asked her to do, is what I can tell, 432 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: like stay quiet and all the things. But the other 433 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 1: thing you brought up was that, like this empire falling, 434 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: is that not what we have experienced as a world 435 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: over the past couple of years. Like that to me, 436 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,919 Speaker 1: like Marv talked about this all the time, All of 437 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: the systemic stuff that needs to be changed is coming 438 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: to the surface right now. So we're seeing this happen 439 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 1: on so many levels. Like you call the me to moment. 440 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 1: A part of that, you could call Black lives matter 441 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: a part of that, Like it's happening in our world 442 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 1: on such a bigger level than this. This is just 443 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: one of the same. Then the royal family like or 444 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 1: whatever the dynamic is, like the with the Commonwealth and 445 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: all the things, maybe there is something that needs to change. 446 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: Like I had a friend say to me, um, what 447 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 1: did Meg and Marco just think that she was going 448 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: to walk in and like change the Royal family. I 449 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 1: don't think that that was her intention. But if you 450 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 1: walk into a system and the system is broken, why 451 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: would you just go along with the broken system? And 452 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: if like you feel called to do something else, like 453 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: speaking up is what we do now? Well and and 454 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: so you know that there was also all the women 455 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: were like, well that happened to us too, and that's 456 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: believe it was different. That's not healthy exactly, It's not 457 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 1: like that is not a solution. And the thing is 458 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: is like you can say, Megan is trying to change 459 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: the thing. She no, She's like, peace out, I'm not. 460 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: This isn't for me. She did, she leaned in, she 461 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 1: tried to do her duties. I actually feel like that 462 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 1: was more and Harry and now she's like yeah, but 463 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: I think like she was staying for him because she 464 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: felt like he didn't have a choice. Um, you know 465 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 1: some back to the Harry like finding his own journey. 466 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 1: I when I saw the book announced, I was like, spare, 467 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: that's weird. I didn't know what it meant. UM for 468 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: those who are unaware, um or won't read it. And 469 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: this isn't a spoiler. He has been called spare since 470 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: he was a young boy, and William was called the air, 471 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: the air and the spare. And apparently his father used 472 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 1: to make a joke like I've given you an air 473 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: and a spare of my work is done, or you've 474 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: get you've given me You've given me an aaron a spare, 475 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: your work has done. Like if anything happens to William, 476 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: the country is safe because Harry steps up and does 477 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: his duties. And Harry said in the sixty Minutes interview, 478 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 1: he was like William's life was set up, was laid 479 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: out for him. Mine wasn't like his purpose wasn't clear 480 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: because he was just the spare. Like William was always 481 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: going to be king and so from a very young 482 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:31,679 Speaker 1: age he was kind of told that he was his 483 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: value was less than his brother's, so I can see why, 484 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: like they caused this, they the family. Did you call 485 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 1: a kid a spare? That's a very common in Britain. 486 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 1: It's just like no one even bats and I and 487 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: to Us were like what you're saying? And I'm like, 488 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 1: if if you're because obviously you never know what if 489 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 1: your kid's going to grow up to like have have 490 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: fortitude and be smart or like, but if that is 491 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: the path that your kid is going to be on, 492 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 1: and a lot of that is predetermined, I think, and 493 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:09,479 Speaker 1: obviously it takes work. But if if you have a 494 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,879 Speaker 1: really resolute child that's being called spare and he's like, 495 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 1: fuck you, I'll show you spare. And I think that's 496 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: what Harry grew in to be, and we're seeing it 497 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 1: play out now. He's like, I don't need to be 498 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 1: to spare. I'm a own person, Like I'm going to 499 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,640 Speaker 1: forge my own path. Do you know that I feel 500 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: more sorry for William in the scenario than Harry in 501 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 1: that in the air in the Spare he has no choice. 502 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: Harry says that he's like he can't escape the system, 503 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: Like he can't just leave Like me, I can leave, 504 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 1: you know, like he has a lot more freedom and 505 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: he has the ability to go carve his own path. 506 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: William doesn't. Like what if William doesn't want to be king? 507 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: Do you ever think about that? Like, but you just are. 508 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: That's the way that system is set up, and that 509 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:55,199 Speaker 1: to me is not at all healthy either, right, Like 510 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: you don't get to choose, Like here you get to 511 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 1: choose if you want to run for president, right, but 512 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: there it's like, no, you're born into this symbol. But seriously, 513 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: to help um make change? So well, William? You know, 514 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 1: obviously the whole system is much bigger than the one person. 515 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: But if you have the king saying something needs to 516 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 1: change and saying it publicly, things happen faster. I would think, Yeah, sure, 517 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: it comes with a lot of power. I mean I 518 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 1: think Queen Elizabeth leaned into that and like leaned into 519 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 1: that role in a positive way, I think. But I 520 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 1: do think that pressure and like just not even really 521 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: being able to define who you are because of it, 522 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: like you're literally just born into that position. I just 523 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 1: think that's really messed up. Yeah, it's tough. Like again 524 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: another reason why, like our opinions don't matter, because we 525 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: can never wrap our heads around that, like you know, 526 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: it's like I think the most baseline example is of 527 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: like you know, you're you're born into a family that 528 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: your for generations have owned, like an age fact company 529 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: or something, and you're like, funk, I don't want to 530 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 1: do a fact but like my grandfather, my great grandfather, 531 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: my dad did, like give me. I don't know what 532 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: made me think of it. It seems like something that 533 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: like in a small town, like the plumbing company, what 534 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: are you gonna like the plumber is going to go 535 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: out of business because you don't want to be a plumber, right, 536 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And you're like, goddamn it, 537 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: I want to be a musician, right, But then you 538 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: break your family apart and then you're the weirdo, you're 539 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: the blood sheep, And it's like that's obviously a funny. Yeah, 540 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: but that happens every day and no one has anything 541 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: to say about it other than chase your dreams versus 542 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: like this is sound such a public scale and they're 543 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: getting like death threats because of it. Either way, I 544 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: think that what's happening right now is very daring, and 545 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 1: they do seem to have a purpose, and I guess 546 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: you can look at that in a negative or positive way, 547 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: whatever your opinion about them is. I always lean into 548 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: like what we said, we don't know what's actually going 549 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: on behind closed doors, and the human peace of like 550 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 1: just giving them the grace to go through this process, 551 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: and like, I don't know, just not hate because we 552 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: read one headline like we don't know, and it's such 553 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: a programming thing for all of us. I think to 554 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: see a headline in form an opinion, but maybe like 555 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 1: take a pause and really digest what's going on. Try 556 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: to like we are such a lacking and empathy world 557 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: at this point, and it makes me so sad, but 558 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: like try to put yourself in that position and like 559 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: under try to understand maybe more than just some headline 560 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: of you know, Megan being some I don't know, tyrant 561 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: running around trying to change the world. Like did anyone 562 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: walk into that situation with the wrong expectations? Absolutely? But 563 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 1: like how could you know? How could you know? I 564 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: don't think that we can fault her for being naive 565 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 1: enough to walk in and be like, oh, I'm gonna 566 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 1: make some changes for the positive. Like I do believe 567 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: that that was their thing, and so now if you 568 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 1: can turn pain into purpose. I support that too. You know. 569 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: It's like to me, I don't think there's anything that 570 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: could be more purposeful than like sharing your truth with 571 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: the world like it is and daring truth and daring 572 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: and um. You know, right now, the only people who 573 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 1: were talking directly to me or Harry and Megan, you know, 574 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: everything else is through a press person through the press, 575 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 1: like a statement whatever. Like if someone else has some 576 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: truth they want to share with the world, fucking share 577 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 1: it and then maybe my opinion or my thoughts on 578 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: it would change. But like I believe that they were 579 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: telling the truth. I don't understand why they wouldn't at 580 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 1: this point. Also for you know, the people that like 581 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: question why he would throw all of this away? For Megan, 582 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 1: like this is a woman that he fell deeply in 583 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: love with. There were lots of lines that he could 584 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 1: draw that reminded him of his mother, like her charity, 585 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: the way that she cared about children, the way that 586 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 1: she cared about women, the way that she cared about 587 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 1: um making the world a better place for people minorities 588 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: are you know? Um? And why would he not look 589 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: at her and think when he starts seeing the way 590 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: that the world is reacting to her, that her story 591 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: might not end the same way that his mother and 592 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 1: want to do something different because as a kid he 593 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: couldn't like as a kid were helpless in so many capacities, 594 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 1: and so then to see it playing out again in 595 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 1: your adult life when you can take an action step 596 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 1: and do something different, I totally agree with you. Also, 597 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: like to me, if nothing else comes from this publicly, like, 598 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: of course, I wish them the best in their family, 599 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: and I do hope they find some resolve and peace 600 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 1: and all of those things. I don't know if that's 601 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: in the cards. They're not, Like you know, no one 602 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: knows that. But if nothing else exposing the press and 603 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 1: this fucking terrible dynamic that we all have. I mean, 604 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 1: I think the British press is an extreme, but this 605 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: happens in America, I mean, and they don't read further 606 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: than a headline. And also there are people who are professionals, 607 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: just like the royal family, at feeding the press the 608 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 1: right thing and controlling the narrative, and that is disgusting. 609 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 1: It ruins people's lives. Um Like, I've been on the 610 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: receiving end of the negative parts of that, and it 611 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: it did deeply affect me and it still is and 612 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: it still affects my work, and like the character assassination, 613 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: like it will affect the rest of my life. It's 614 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 1: just a part of the story now and I didn't 615 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: have anything to do with it. It's wild and it's 616 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: just to me. I always thought like, oh, there's certain 617 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: you know, like you could look at like the Sun 618 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: or Life and Style or whatever those stupid ones are 619 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: and be like, oh, those are fake tabloids. You can't believe. 620 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 1: But it happens on like good more in America too. 621 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: It's not. It's like I was with a journalist yesterday 622 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 1: who's from a very reputable and a famous guitar player died. 623 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,399 Speaker 1: His name Jeff Beck. Yes. I have a text thread 624 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 1: with a couple of friends that like, whenever someone famous dies, 625 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 1: like we try to beat each other to like the 626 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 1: scoop to tell so we didn't like the example would 627 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,760 Speaker 1: be Jeff Beck is dead, Like that's all we text. 628 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 1: So and so I was dead and um, I know 629 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 1: it's insensitive, Please don't come at me. I've done a point. Um. 630 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 1: And so I was telling him because he was like, 631 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 1: oh Jeff Beck died blah, and I was like, oh, yeah, 632 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 1: I saw that, and I told him about the text 633 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: thread and he was like, oh, I mean you think 634 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: we don't do that in the press, Like that's he 635 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 1: was like, our whole organization gets an email and the 636 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: subject is Jeff Beck is dead, you know, and it's 637 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: like we have them all, like do we have an 638 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 1: obituary written? Like and he was telling me like, at 639 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 1: the top of the year, they sit and make a 640 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 1: list of people they think might die and they start 641 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 1: working on the obituaries because get the clicks. It's about 642 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 1: the clicks. Yeah, Then they go back and soften the 643 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:05,399 Speaker 1: story later, you know, like Betty White's dead, that gets 644 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 1: a click, But then you go back and you write 645 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 1: the stories about like how wonderful she was. But in 646 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 1: the beginning, it's about the click. And the problem is 647 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,839 Speaker 1: people don't read articles. They read a headline and we're 648 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 1: so lazy and we're so like busy and oversaturated and 649 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 1: all the things. You read the headline, you form an opinion, 650 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 1: You move on to the next You don't even realize 651 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 1: you formed an opinion, but you formed an opinion. So 652 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 1: with the headline is false, or if the article actually 653 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 1: says something different than the headline. It doesn't matter. And 654 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,439 Speaker 1: so that's the part, Like if nothing else, I feel 655 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 1: like Harry and Megan are exposing the dark side of 656 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 1: that that people don't understand or know or realize is 657 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 1: happening to their brain at all times because we're constantly 658 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 1: being fed this ship and I'm like, go for it, 659 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,879 Speaker 1: please somebody like they have the platform to do it, 660 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 1: and do it like it's it needs to happen. That 661 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 1: is a system that needs to change. I don't know 662 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,800 Speaker 1: how it changes. It seems like that's like a business, 663 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 1: but but it's a business, and never forget that is 664 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:12,240 Speaker 1: what I would say. Anyway, as soon as your thoughts, 665 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 1: we want to know what you guys think about Harry 666 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 1: and Megan. I'm sure Harry, if you're listening or Megan 667 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 1: come onto Velvet's Edge. Could you imagine I'm like, I 668 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 1: told you guys a book of a guest guess it's 669 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 1: gonna be like Harrie at Prince Harry dot com. Right, yeah, exactly, 670 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 1: even Harriet mac dot com. I'm sure. Let's let's try it. Anyway, Um, 671 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 1: if you guys have thoughts on this, email us at 672 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: the Edge at Velvet Edge dot com. You can always 673 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 1: hit me up on Instagram. It's at Velvet Edge, chip 674 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 1: A D O R S. How could you forget that? 675 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 1: As you guys go into the weekend, it's gonna try 676 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 1: to get clever. But you know what, just as you 677 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,360 Speaker 1: go into the weekend and you're living on the edge. 678 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 1: I hope you always remembered to app Casual by