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Speaker 1: Now welcome in a jagxam. I'm kind.

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Speaker 2: Nannie Stevens, Brian Sexton and John Oger are with me

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Speaker 2: on this Wednesday. It's week eleven of the NFL season.

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Speaker 2: Comes talk Jaguars. Things haven't gone the way we expected

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Speaker 2: this season, but we are remaining hopeful here on jag Zam.

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Speaker 1: So start out with big.

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Speaker 2: Thing number one. We are remaining hopeful, Brian, when we

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Speaker 2: look at the scene, there are things that are good

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Speaker 2: about this. We're staying positive in this room for now.

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Speaker 1: I demand it. What's something you're hopeful about for this sea?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 4: Was there's seven games left?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 5: I mean, I get what has happened the last three weeks,

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Speaker 5: and I understand what's in front of them with the.

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Speaker 4: Lions this week.

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Speaker 5: But if I'm hopeful about anything, it's that they get

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Speaker 5: Trevor Lawrence back after Thanksgiving. Where there are some winnable

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Speaker 5: games for this football team. They've get the Colts, They've

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Speaker 5: got two games against the Titans, Yets. You know there's

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Speaker 5: a chance for them to finish this season. It won't

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Speaker 5: it won't solve the problems, but it will give them

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Speaker 5: a chance to play at a higher level and perhaps

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Speaker 5: give us something to enjoy before this season is done.

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Speaker 3: Well, this is right up my alley because I am

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Speaker 3: nothing if not a cock eyed optimist. Look, and Brian's right,

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Speaker 3: there is hope. I think the real thing, all kidding aside,

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Speaker 3: is that this team for three weeks has played very

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Speaker 3: well or you know, very competitively against playoff teams from

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Speaker 3: the NFC. You know, all the stuff about a lot

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Speaker 3: of quit that storyline in London hasn't even come close

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Speaker 3: to being a storyline the last couple of weeks. This

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Speaker 3: team has not given up on it. Josh Allen talked Monday,

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Speaker 3: you know about still believing, and I think they do,

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Speaker 3: so they have hope. I think there's a lot of

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Speaker 3: hope for some wins, for some positive stuff going on.

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Speaker 3: There's just not hope for the playoffs because it would

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Speaker 3: take I don't know what, you call it a miracle.

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Speaker 3: You're the religious guy.

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Speaker 4: Ryan, Yeah, No, I am a novena Christ.

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Speaker 5: We would say in the catholicjurch, it would take a

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Speaker 5: novena to get them there, and I'm willing to say one,

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Speaker 5: but I don't know that it's waste. Yeah, I'm not

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Speaker 5: going to There's something else to be hopeful for. And

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Speaker 5: that's that there's some young talent on this team. Now

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Speaker 5: there's clearly not enough guy but when you look at

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Speaker 5: a guy like Trayvon Walker, you see what's possible with

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Speaker 5: Brenton Strange and Tank Big Spy and Brian Thomas Junior.

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Speaker 5: I mean there's you want them over these final seven

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Speaker 5: games to improve, to get better, and that requires a

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Speaker 5: lot of effort.

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Speaker 4: And as John just said, they're not quitting.

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Speaker 2: I think that's important to mention too, because this is

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Speaker 2: the point where drafting and developing could definitely help, especially

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Speaker 2: if you're focused a little bit more on getting that

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Speaker 2: young talent out there. No matter what, our second big

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Speaker 2: thing today is going to be changes.

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Speaker 1: Now going forward.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't mean that they have to do everything the

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Speaker 2: same way they've been doing. John, if we're looking at changes,

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Speaker 2: whether it's getting some more reps for the younger guys,

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Speaker 2: doing things a little bit differently on offense, because what

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Speaker 2: could it hurt at this point, what do you hopeful

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Speaker 3: Well, I think you're at the point of a season

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Speaker 3: where the change happens organically. You don't have to force

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Speaker 3: it because you've got injuries that sort of force you

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Speaker 3: in certain directions. I don't know what it's gona happen

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Speaker 3: with Trevor this week. So if it's mac Jones again,

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Speaker 3: I think you have to look at what was done

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you have to limit things, but

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Speaker 3: you have to figure out what works in that offense

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Speaker 3: and change in that direction. As far as major personnel change, Brian,

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Speaker 3: this is always the point. See we've been through some

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Speaker 3: of these. It's always the point of the season where people say, well,

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Speaker 3: just play all the young guys play. You know, it's

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Speaker 5: Well, if you say you're just gonna play all the

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Speaker 5: win or not. You just you can't play that way.

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Speaker 5: It talk about no hope. You've got to be able

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Speaker 5: to stay within a framework. I wouldn't give you the obvious.

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Speaker 5: I would like to see them figure out a way

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Speaker 5: to just force feed the ball to number seven. I

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Speaker 5: on Sunday. They targeted him nine different times, and everyone has.

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Speaker 4: Their focus on where number eighteen is.

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Speaker 5: When they play the Minnesota Vikings, I'd like to see

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Speaker 5: them adjust the offense. I mean, I understand why they

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Speaker 5: didn't do it early, but now we're at the point

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Speaker 5: he is so explosive and you want him to develop.

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Speaker 5: I would like to see them kind of force speed

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Speaker 5: The argument could be, well, he wasn't fully healthy. Okay,

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Speaker 5: well you've got the bye week coming up soon, you're

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Speaker 5: gonna have a stretch of six games to finish the season.

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Speaker 4: Figure out a way to feature that guy.

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Speaker 3: Or on the subject there. I think the reason they

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Speaker 3: don't is you saw what happen on Sunday when the

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Speaker 3: Vikings were force feeding. Three of Sam Darnold's picks were

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Speaker 3: in Justin Jefferson's direction. When you got a young quarter

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Speaker 3: bit of a hesitancy to force that because all of

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Speaker 3: a sudden you're asking for picks, but you gotta get him.

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Speaker 5: I mean, listen, I get it. And I'm not saying

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Speaker 5: are other shorter, different routes. There's different ways, and I'm

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Speaker 5: not trying to tell Doug and Press something they already know.

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Speaker 5: But you asked about change. I would just like to

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Speaker 5: see him become that focal point. And there's got to

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Speaker 5: be way because KD going forward, he's gonna get that attention.

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Speaker 5: You're going to have to work to get him the ball.

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Speaker 5: It's going to take some effort strategically to get in

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Speaker 5: the ball, So why not work on that now?

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Speaker 2: And he's going to have to know how to play

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Speaker 2: through it as well. So hopefully they find a way

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Speaker 2: to mix him in against Detroit, no matter who the

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Speaker 1: So that comes to our final big thing, which.

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Speaker 2: Is be where the Lions one of the best teams

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Speaker 2: in football right now looking like Super Bowl contenders.

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Speaker 1: They had their off game this.

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Speaker 2: Week against the Texans, So what can the Daguars do

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Speaker 2: to try to go.

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Speaker 1: In there and get things done?

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Speaker 5: On Sunday, Brian Wells he read they're eight and one

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Speaker 5: for the first time since nineteen fifty four, which might

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Speaker 5: surprise people was before John and.

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Speaker 4: I were born.

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Speaker 5: That's seventy years ago. Seventy years they have won seven

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Speaker 5: in a row. And I watched a game that they

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Speaker 5: just so impressed with the way that their offensive line

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Speaker 5: were two or three times where the runner was caught up.

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Speaker 5: Montgomery and big offensive Linemanges came in and shoved them

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Speaker 5: down the field. They play a certain way. They don't

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Speaker 5: just want to beat you. They want to make a

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Speaker 5: statement every single Sunday. They want you to know that

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Speaker 5: you were leaving with a loss and their complete and

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Speaker 5: utter lack of respect. Right They want you to leave

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Speaker 5: feeling as if they took everything from you.

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Speaker 4: I kind of like that mentality.

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Speaker 5: But you better be ready because they play hard every

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Speaker 3: The Chiefs are nine to zero and Super Bowl champs,

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Speaker 3: so they deserve to be like on top until somebody

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Speaker 3: beats them. But if you're asking what the best team

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Speaker 3: in the NFL looks like right now, the best team

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Speaker 3: in the NFL is a Detroit Lions. And because of

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Speaker 3: the rains, because the reasons Brian talked about watching the

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Speaker 3: game Sunday night, it struck you that even when they

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Speaker 3: were down sixteen, even when going through five interceptions, it

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Speaker 3: always sort of felt like they were playing downhill. They're

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Speaker 3: really good, really physical, They know how they want to play. Look, Brian,

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Speaker 3: I respect your whole hope thing this week, but this

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Speaker 3: is and this is as tough a lift as the

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Speaker 3: Jaguars will have this season. I mean, I sure there's hope,

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Speaker 3: but this is a really, really tough matchup.

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Speaker 4: Without a doubt.

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Speaker 5: And I loved Jared Goff's comment after the game. He

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Speaker 5: was asked about throwing five interceptions and not letting it

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Speaker 5: get to him because five interceptions, He goes, I've been

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Speaker 5: to the bottom before he was discarded by the team

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Speaker 5: that drafted him, even after he took the Rams to

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Speaker 5: the Super Bowl, or he was a key component of

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Speaker 5: getting the Rams to the super Bowl that year. He says,

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Speaker 5: I'm not gonna let this bother me. That can't stop me.

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Speaker 5: I've been through worse.

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Speaker 4: Listen.

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Speaker 5: That resilient mentality that no matter what mentality, man, That's

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Speaker 5: why I think that they're capable of beating the Chiefs

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Speaker 5: They are playing at a high level. They're playing physical,

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Speaker 5: they can send the ball down the field. I mean,

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Speaker 5: even without Aiden Hutchinson. Their defense is playing well and

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Speaker 5: they've got that sort of an attitude from their quarterback,

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Speaker 5: like five interceptions, no problem.

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Speaker 2: Hold on, five interceptions, good to bounce back from. All Right,

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Speaker 2: we'll talk more about the lines a little bit about

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Speaker 1: That's this welcome back in to jag Zam. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: do a little this or that today.

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Speaker 2: We are operating on Wednesday here with not a full

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Speaker 2: amount of information about the week, exactly who we're going

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Speaker 2: to see at quarterbacks, so we're going to talk that

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Speaker 2: out a little bit. Trevor Lawrence stealing with a injury

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Speaker 2: to his non throwing shoulder. He did not play against

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Speaker 2: the Vikings last week, and Doug Peterson wasn't quite obvious

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Speaker 2: with whether he was going to play this week or not,

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Speaker 2: saying they'll see as the week goes along. So if

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Speaker 2: it's up to you, guys, do you want to see

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Speaker 2: Trevor this week? Will we see Trevor after the bye?

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Speaker 2: When do you think we will see Trevor back?

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Speaker 5: I think the most logical is that we would see

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Speaker 5: him in a couple of weeks. I mean, if you

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Speaker 5: think about it, if you get into the Texans game,

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Speaker 5: he's had a month right to get back, and that

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Speaker 5: probably makes sense with the sprain day seed joint. You know,

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Speaker 5: if it's sore and he takes hit after hit after hit,

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Speaker 5: which quarterbacks do you'd like to spare him that? My

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Speaker 5: answer is I want to see him back on the

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Speaker 5: field of the minute he can be right. If that's

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Speaker 5: Sunday in Detroit, then I want to see him.

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Speaker 3: I'd be surprised if he plays Sunday because usually how

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Speaker 3: just like Brian said, can get him a couple of weeks. Look,

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Speaker 4: Will you sit next to me?

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Speaker 5: You don't want him to re injure it and then

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Speaker 4: We're already talking about that. But you don't want surgery.

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Speaker 3: And that doesn't mean you shut him down if healthy.

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Speaker 2: Afford, let's look at it to the defensive side of

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Speaker 1: Is that something you should.

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Speaker 5: The Jaguars defense the last three games has been on

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Speaker 5: If that means more guys play more snaps, then so

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Speaker 5: And Doug has said, you know, he's not a defensive guy.

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Speaker 5: And isn't it an old axiom You don't do what

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Speaker 5: or it just doesn't work. Whichever one of those is

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Speaker 2: Is there any defensive players that you want to see

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Speaker 1: Or you let to see their time?

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Speaker 4: Go up there?

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Speaker 5: Listen more Ventra Miller please, I mean the more I

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Speaker 4: Backwards or sideways. More of him, please, YEA.

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Speaker 3: Dewey's the obvious one in the backfield. You haven't seen

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Speaker 3: Ventreel Miller and Dewey seen to make plays, and so

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Speaker 3: I don't know that the and they haven't been hiding greatness.

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, so although I know they're gonna all of

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Speaker 5: There is one guy, though, Jordan Jefferson, the defensive tackle,

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Speaker 4: Every time I see him, I see him do something.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and you're starting to see some physicality from him.

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Speaker 4: I've been impressed with him.

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Speaker 3: He probably fits that category we just talked about.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's guys who play yeah, right, And

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Speaker 3: And maybe you know, uh, I don't know if they'll

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Speaker 3: He has some elite traits, some really good traits. Uh,

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Speaker 5: We've talked about a lot of young players Ventrel Miller

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Speaker 5: That may not be more snaps John, that may just

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Speaker 4: Things with them.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely lots of stuff to keep an eye on. Stay

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Speaker 1: So welcome you back into Jagsam. Today.

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk a little bit about the ANFC

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Speaker 1: We haven't played the Titan yet this year. They're struggling

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Speaker 2: They got Will Levis back at quarterback, but didn't help

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Speaker 2: We've already seen how the Colts have been dealing with

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Speaker 5: I think you can bank on the Titans selecting a

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Speaker 4: That Brian Callahan wants to run.

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Speaker 5: I don't know, but I've seen both of these guys

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Unfortunately, this feels like there's the time right when

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Speaker 3: It feels like who goes and he'll get a chance

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Speaker 3: But it certainly has felt from Afar like Callahan never

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Speaker 4: You know who he reminds me of.

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Speaker 5: Remember Jonathan Quinn, the six foot six quarterback the Jaguars

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not to beat a dead horse on it, but

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Speaker 3: It's a huge weird dynamic in the NFL right now.

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Speaker 5: Some kids don't have the option, though, to stay if

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it could be.

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Speaker 2: We're playing the Lions next week, and Jared Goff five

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Look, the Texans are good. All off season, people

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Speaker 1: Had another thing to the frustration list for us. Stay

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Speaker 2: We're gonna talk to you a little bit about what's

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Speaker 3: Yes, he grabbed a towel.

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Speaker 1: He was like, that's my towel.

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Speaker 3: I said, sure it is. I love you don't count.

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Speaker 4: I did a game can.

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Speaker 3: He was like that's my tow I say, sure is.

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Speaker 3: He was like next level trolling.

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Speaker 1: He was like he was right He's like, you won't

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Speaker 1: let me get him back?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I said no, not right now, That's true.

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Speaker 2: Josh Heinzel next level troll wearing Cam Robinson's towel to

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Speaker 2: distract him in the game. Loved that matchup. That was

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Speaker 2: something I had my eye on during that game and it.

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Speaker 1: Was fun to see.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Josh played well. I mean he didn't get a sack,

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Speaker 5: but he was he was around the quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was your classic case the other day of

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Speaker 3: why sacks are often an overrated stat for defensive line play, because, uh,

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Speaker 3: he was outstanding a lot of pressure.

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Speaker 1: Who you guys talking to this week or what are

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Speaker 1: you looking forward to.

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Speaker 5: I'm going to talk to Bill Shoey who coaches Trayvon

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Speaker 5: and and Josh and and get a feel for how

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Speaker 5: how you attacked Jared golf High against the best offensive

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Speaker 5: line football, because they are, aren't they the best offensive

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Speaker 5: money football?

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Speaker 3: If they're not, I want to see percent how you.

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Speaker 4: How you classified pressure, how you attack it.

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Speaker 3: I was expecting to have Logan Cook on the ozone

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Speaker 3: podcast Awesome and I always love having Logan Cook on.

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Speaker 3: He is he's a fun guy, gets it and he's

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Speaker 3: he's he's really really good.

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Speaker 4: Longest ten year Jaguar.

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Speaker 3: Now, yeah, since Cam was trauded, it might be the

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Speaker 3: best punter in franchise history.

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Speaker 5: I don't even think that's Closs, So yeah, I love that. Sorry,

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Speaker 5: Brian Barker, No, he's got.

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Speaker 3: But uh, Logan has been consistently very very very.

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Speaker 4: Good for this thing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and he practices those punts, you know, the ones

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Speaker 5: where he gets them out and they hit on the

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Speaker 5: sideline and spend down. I mean that he practices those

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Speaker 5: every single day. He's one of the great guys in

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Speaker 5: that locker room.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back tomorrow to talk a little bit more

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Speaker 2: about that line game coming up this weekend on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you then,