WEBVTT - Kathryn Hurley: Everything You Need to Know About Adopting A Pet 0:00:08.680 --> 0:00:13.360 Yeah, you're listening to in the Vets Office with doctor 0:00:13.480 --> 0:00:17.320 Josie Horshak. Hi. 0:00:17.400 --> 0:00:19.880 Everyone, welcome to in the Vets Office. I am your host, 0:00:19.920 --> 0:00:22.880 doctor Josie, and I am here with missus Shannonella. 0:00:23.000 --> 0:00:25.319 Hello. Hello, how are you? I'm doing great? How are you? 0:00:25.520 --> 0:00:26.759 I'm good. I'm excited. 0:00:26.800 --> 0:00:28.480 I feel like every week we get to catch up 0:00:28.480 --> 0:00:30.440 and find out what crazy thing happened to you. 0:00:30.400 --> 0:00:33.920 This week in the Vets Office. And I don't know 0:00:33.920 --> 0:00:34.520 what it is yet. 0:00:34.520 --> 0:00:36.199 This week I'm kind of scared because you have a 0:00:36.200 --> 0:00:37.160 funny look on your face. 0:00:37.360 --> 0:00:38.440 Yeah, we were sitting here. 0:00:38.479 --> 0:00:40.480 I was like, I wonder if this is a little 0:00:40.560 --> 0:00:43.479 TMI for the audience, but you know, it really happened, 0:00:43.520 --> 0:00:45.040 so I feel like I got to share it. Okay, 0:00:45.200 --> 0:00:47.320 this is not this past week. This is actually I 0:00:47.360 --> 0:00:49.600 probably was a year into practice. So I was a 0:00:49.600 --> 0:00:53.720 baby VET okay, and we had the cutest little Cavey 0:00:54.120 --> 0:00:54.840 King Cavalier. 0:00:55.320 --> 0:00:56.840 Oh they're so sweet, They're adorable. 0:00:57.120 --> 0:01:01.560 And this sweet little angel was crying every time she 0:01:01.640 --> 0:01:05.360 was trying to go poop. And we went to I 0:01:05.520 --> 0:01:08.040 went to express for anal glands and for the life 0:01:08.040 --> 0:01:11.200 of me, could not get them to express and so 0:01:11.319 --> 0:01:16.039 I had my mentor and friend. He is a veterinarian, 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:18.160 he's probably about seven years older than me, and I said, hey, 0:01:18.160 --> 0:01:19.760 you need to come check this out, like something's not 0:01:19.840 --> 0:01:22.679 right here. And he's like, sometimes they get impacted and 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:26.120 we have to sedate them and express them. I'm like, great, 0:01:27.640 --> 0:01:31.200 so we'll sedate her. You're like, oh great, I'm like perfect, 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:34.280 let's do it. So I sedate her and go to 0:01:34.319 --> 0:01:38.560 express for anal glands and still cannot get them to express. 0:01:39.440 --> 0:01:42.480 And so doctor Williams is his name. He comes out 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:44.520 and he says, okay, well i'll help you. I'll show 0:01:44.520 --> 0:01:46.959 you how to do this. And he's, you know, doing 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:50.440 the thing, and he says, hey, come here, I want 0:01:50.480 --> 0:01:52.440 to show you, like I want you to see exactly 0:01:53.120 --> 0:01:55.440 what I'm doing so you can replicate it in the future. 0:01:55.640 --> 0:01:57.960 Warming I'm like, I'm so nervous as to what is 0:01:58.000 --> 0:01:59.000 going on here, yep. 0:01:59.240 --> 0:02:01.720 And I am getting a bird's eye view. I mean 0:02:01.760 --> 0:02:03.080 I'm in there looking. 0:02:02.840 --> 0:02:04.960 Oh, and you're right in the area. Okay. 0:02:05.160 --> 0:02:09.120 And then he's you know, trying to express them. And 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:11.520 there was like kind of like a plug and the 0:02:11.560 --> 0:02:14.840 plug came out. Oh no, and the anal plan expressed 0:02:15.080 --> 0:02:18.080 and I went all over my face, into my mouth, 0:02:18.160 --> 0:02:18.560 into my. 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:24.160 Eyes and I. 0:02:22.520 --> 0:02:24.880 I don't know that I've recovered from that. This was 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:28.720 about seven years ago and I still have PTSD. The 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:30.799 best part is that there was security footage because we 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:33.399 have cameras in the hospital, so the whole team. 0:02:33.200 --> 0:02:35.520 Watched it back. It is like, actually, very hilarious. 0:02:35.560 --> 0:02:37.280 I'll probably have to post it on my Instagram and 0:02:37.280 --> 0:02:39.960 we're gonna need a copy of that video. I'm spitting 0:02:40.000 --> 0:02:41.960 on the floor. I'm like throwing up in the sink. 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:43.760 They're like, doctor Josie, what do you need. I'm like, 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:48.600 call me an uber. And so I got an uber 0:02:48.720 --> 0:02:51.920 and I went home and I showered and I really 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:53.639 wanted to have a glass of wine, but it was 0:02:53.639 --> 0:02:55.959 like nine in the morning, and so drank water. 0:02:56.040 --> 0:02:59.799 Went back to work. Oh wow, I have no words 0:02:59.800 --> 0:03:03.760 of moment. And you still after that moment, you were like, 0:03:03.880 --> 0:03:05.160 this is the path for me? 0:03:05.360 --> 0:03:07.960 It was like and that was a testing time, I 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:09.760 will say, but yeah, I was like, hey, this is 0:03:09.800 --> 0:03:10.200 part of the. 0:03:10.200 --> 0:03:12.840 Job, part of the job, part of the job. Wow. 0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:16.639 Yeah, have you I felt really bad for my uber driver? Yeah, 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:19.359 Like I do not smell goods that I can. 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:21.360 I can't talk about it. No, I'm like, I like 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:25.239 my nose right now? Do you now since you've learned 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:26.520 your lesson whenever? 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:28.720 Oh yeah, have anyone coming in there? Oh we're teaching. 0:03:28.720 --> 0:03:31.400 You're like, let's not look over top of the area. 0:03:31.240 --> 0:03:34.720 Like put your face shield on, yeah, put your goggles. 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:35.480 Yeah. 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:35.800 No. 0:03:35.920 --> 0:03:40.080 I was debtimately a learning experience for sure, and a 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:41.880 rite of passage as a baby vet. 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:47.160 So when you finally got home and thought about having 0:03:47.160 --> 0:03:49.440 your glass of wine, right, how many times did you 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:52.360 have to shower to get that smell? 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:53.160 Yeah? 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:55.360 Ok, so I walk in We were in downtown Chicago. 0:03:55.440 --> 0:03:57.720 I walk into my apartment. My husband works from home, 0:03:58.240 --> 0:04:00.280 and he's like, wow, what's going on? And I was like, 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:03.920 do not come close to me. I took off all 0:04:03.920 --> 0:04:05.720 my clothes, like right at the front door, ran to 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:08.480 the shower. I probably had to shower like three times, 0:04:08.480 --> 0:04:11.360 like wash my hair and my face and brush my teeth. 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:14.360 Yeah. I was, oh, brush your teeth. It was a journey. 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:17.680 Oh no, yeah, because I mean, regular shampoo is not 0:04:17.720 --> 0:04:20.279 going to get that smell out, and no regular soap. No. 0:04:20.440 --> 0:04:23.320 I threw my I threw my clothes away my top. Yeah, 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:24.040 I was like, burn it. 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:26.520 Did you go back to work right after I did? 0:04:26.560 --> 0:04:26.680 Oh? 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:29.000 Yeah? Yeah? I oh that day? 0:04:29.040 --> 0:04:32.800 Yeah, I ran home, ubered home downtown Chicago, changed, showered 0:04:32.839 --> 0:04:34.560 two to three times, brush my teeth, got back in 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:36.160 the uber, and went back to work. 0:04:36.200 --> 0:04:37.920 Okay, did the same mover driver pick you up? Did 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:40.840 you wait for you or no? God? No, he was 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:43.200 like that girl was stinky. Like if I ever see 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:45.080 Josie pop up? Yeah, stop picking her up? 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:45.760 Yah? Wow? 0:04:45.839 --> 0:04:46.960 And did you get a raise? 0:04:47.320 --> 0:04:47.800 No? 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:49.000 No raise, no raise? 0:04:49.120 --> 0:04:49.200 No? 0:04:50.200 --> 0:04:50.919 But it is funny. 0:04:50.960 --> 0:04:55.320 So the camera footage shows all of my nurses just 0:04:55.360 --> 0:04:58.479 like dying, laughing, and I'm like, you traders. 0:04:58.240 --> 0:04:59.200 No one tried to help you. 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:01.279 I mean they were like what, like you just don't 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:03.039 even know what to do at that point. So half 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:04.600 of them are just like giggling in the corner. And 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:06.760 I mean, I can't blame them. It was pretty funny. 0:05:06.760 --> 0:05:09.040 But and did you stay working there for? Is that 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:11.320 where you Yeah? That's where I was prior to moving 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:11.960 to Nashville. 0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:14.440 How I don't know if I could have returned back 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:15.600 to the seating the crime. 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:17.840 If you're listening to this, doctor Williams, thank you so 0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:19.000 much for that learning moment. 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:20.200 Oh my gosh. 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:22.039 All right, we are going to have more learning moments 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:24.279 right now because some of our listeners have some questions 0:05:24.320 --> 0:05:24.560 for you. 0:05:24.760 --> 0:05:28.040 Yes, we're going to do some listener question and answers 0:05:28.040 --> 0:05:30.880 of the week. All right, let's see what we got. Hi, 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:35.120 doctor Josie, Sometimes my dog eats grass, and I was 0:05:35.160 --> 0:05:37.479 wondering if this is normal or something I should be 0:05:37.480 --> 0:05:38.960 concerned about. Please let me know what. 0:05:39.000 --> 0:05:39.279 Thanks. 0:05:40.000 --> 0:05:40.279 Ah. 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:41.159 The grass eaters. 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:44.719 Yes, I get asked this question for sure on a 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:49.320 weekly basis. And it's a myth that dogs are carnivores. 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:53.080 They're omnivores just like us. They require protein and and 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:55.640 they're greens, and so I don't get worked up about 0:05:55.680 --> 0:05:59.159 dogs eating grass here and there. It's pretty normal for 0:05:59.200 --> 0:06:02.200 them to want to forge. So if your dog is 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:05.040 like munching on a blade like a cow, that's fine. 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:09.239 I will say, if they're rushing outside scarfing down tons 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:11.880 of grass, sometimes that can mean they have an upset stomach. 0:06:11.960 --> 0:06:14.120 Okay, so that's not a myth. That is not a myth. 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:16.080 So if they ever really hurt tummy and they're running 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:18.640 outside and they're just like ravenously eating grass and then 0:06:18.680 --> 0:06:21.880 throwing up afterwards. You know, if it's a one and done, okay, 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:24.239 let's keep an eye on it. But if that's consistently happening, 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:25.240 you should talk to your vet. 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:25.680 Okay. 0:06:25.800 --> 0:06:28.200 But my German shepherd will go for a walk and 0:06:28.240 --> 0:06:30.520 he'll like, we chewing on a blade of grass the 0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:31.360 whole time, and I'm. 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:32.719 Like, you know what, he just likes his greens. 0:06:32.800 --> 0:06:33.040 Yeah. 0:06:33.440 --> 0:06:35.960 My French bulldog she used to do that all the time, 0:06:36.040 --> 0:06:37.560 and I would laugh because she would just take like 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:39.479 one big chunk of grass and just sit there and 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:42.800 enjoy it. She could, But are We have a German 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:46.120 Shepherd mix and she will play for hours and get 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:46.800 really worked up. 0:06:47.080 --> 0:06:50.440 And then she just devours grass and throws up. Yeah. 0:06:50.480 --> 0:06:53.360 And I'm like, but she doesn't do it all the time, 0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:55.920 but I always get so worried and I'm like, is 0:06:55.960 --> 0:06:56.720 something wrong with her? 0:06:56.839 --> 0:06:59.680 But she's also like panting and now she's vomiting. I'm like, 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:03.120 this is not this is not great. Yeah, I think it. 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:05.600 Obviously they can't tell us, but my guess is that 0:07:05.680 --> 0:07:08.680 they're tummy's hurting. There's like an acid build up in there. 0:07:08.920 --> 0:07:11.800 Grass is very non acidic, so it kind of can 0:07:11.880 --> 0:07:16.040 coate the tummy, and so they're probably trying to help 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:18.960 with that acid build up and then ultimately they end 0:07:19.040 --> 0:07:19.680 up throwing it up. 0:07:19.720 --> 0:07:21.480 So it's not the end of the world. 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:23.240 But if it is a consistent like, hey, this is 0:07:23.240 --> 0:07:26.280 happening multiple times a week, certainly it's happening every single day. 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:28.840 Talk to your mutinarian for sure. Cool. All right, good 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:31.480 to know. That is our last question for the week. 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:35.120 But for the listeners out there, if you have any 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:38.320 questions that you'd like for us to address, you can 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:40.160 click the link in our show notes. 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:43.160 And feel free to record. No questions are off limit. 0:07:43.360 --> 0:07:45.680 Yes, and in those questions, I always love hearing what 0:07:45.720 --> 0:07:48.680 people are up to because I feel like there's so 0:07:48.720 --> 0:07:51.400 many different things that people are worried about that you 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:52.200 don't want. 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:53.600 To call your vet about. Now you can just ask 0:07:53.640 --> 0:07:57.200 doctor Josie exactly, so one stop shop. Absolutely all right, 0:07:57.240 --> 0:07:59.440 I'm excited. Who is our guest today on the show? 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:03.360 I'm super excited today in the VETS office, we have 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:08.720 Catherine Hurley Doll coming in and she is the executive 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:12.680 director here at Wags and Walks in Nashville. It is, 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:17.000 in my opinion, the most well known and respected dog 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:20.400 rescue in the area. It's actually where I adopted my 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:24.360 big German shepherd, Oakley from, and Catherine is a friend 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:27.520 of mine. I actually when I moved here during the pandemic, 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:30.440 I wanted to be involved in a rescue. I'm really 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:32.880 passionate about it, and I had heard a lot about 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:37.520 wags and walks and what better way to introduce yourself 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:39.400 to someone than to slide into their DMS. 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:44.200 So yes, very Kelsey Ballerini, Chase stokes of you. 0:08:44.600 --> 0:08:48.000 Yes, exactly right to the source. Yes, So I DMed 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:49.800 her on Instagram, just letting her know. You know, I'm 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:51.360 a veterinarian, I'm new to the area, I want to 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:54.920 be involved, and we became fast friends from there. We've 0:08:54.920 --> 0:08:58.080 spent a lot of time working with sick animals together. 0:08:58.720 --> 0:09:02.200 But I don't think I realized what a force she was. 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:07.480 She is birthing puppies in her bathroom. She will go 0:09:07.679 --> 0:09:09.800 to Alabama at the drop of a hat to rescue 0:09:09.840 --> 0:09:15.120 dogs from death row. She's going into extreme hoarding situations 0:09:15.160 --> 0:09:18.760 to extract animals, and really has just dedicated her life 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:22.320 to saving dogs that most people wouldn't even think about 0:09:22.320 --> 0:09:24.880 giving a second chance. So if you have not checked 0:09:24.880 --> 0:09:29.000 out Wags and Walks, Like, I truly have to limit 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:30.600 myself from looking at all of. 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:33.959 The beautiful rescues that they have because I would take 0:09:34.000 --> 0:09:35.360 them all home. We have a farm now, and like 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:37.840 they would all be at my house because the dogs 0:09:37.840 --> 0:09:39.640 that they the time they put into them, and just 0:09:39.679 --> 0:09:41.320 how sweet they are, and the great events that they 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:44.240 put on are so awesome. So I'm excited to get 0:09:44.280 --> 0:09:46.440 to know her better too, because I haven't actually spent 0:09:46.520 --> 0:09:47.880 much time talking to her before. 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:49.840 So yeah, she's lovely and I think a really great 0:09:49.840 --> 0:09:52.120 thing for listeners too, Like a big takeaway will be 0:09:52.800 --> 0:09:55.080 what to expect when you're adopting, because I have so 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:59.720 many patients that are rescues, and I think it's important 0:09:59.720 --> 0:10:02.800 for own to be prepared when rescuing. It's a beautiful thing, 0:10:02.840 --> 0:10:04.480 but there's good things to know before you do it. 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:11.000 So here we go. Hi, Catherine, Welcome to in the 0:10:11.080 --> 0:10:13.800 VETS Office. Thank you for having me. I'm so excited 0:10:13.840 --> 0:10:15.120 for you to be here today. 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:18.880 And all of our listeners know that this podcast is 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:23.000 BYOD Bring your Own Dog, and we also have the 0:10:23.000 --> 0:10:25.600 one and only mister Jacks joining us today. 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:29.720 Tell us a little bit about Jacks. Jax is the 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:33.280 love of my life. He's my first dog. We have four. 0:10:33.360 --> 0:10:37.360 As you know, Jax came from Pontiac, Michigan, close to 0:10:37.480 --> 0:10:41.240 my hometown. His origin story is probably my favorite of 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:44.520 all of my dogs. We were as nineteen year olds, 0:10:44.559 --> 0:10:47.840 you know, do on Craigslist just searching for dogs. 0:10:47.960 --> 0:10:49.960 Craigslist was like it was a place. 0:10:50.040 --> 0:10:52.000 It was it back in the day, back in the day, 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:54.520 and we had just gotten into fostering, so I grew 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:59.000 up with breeder dogs like Shitsu's small poodles, nothing in 0:10:59.040 --> 0:11:03.200 the realm of a pit. And me and Rejeeve my 0:11:03.280 --> 0:11:06.560 now husband then boyfriend, and one of our friends saw 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:08.920 a photo of him in a Craigslist ad and he 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:11.600 was being held by his neck with his one of 0:11:11.600 --> 0:11:14.200 his siblings, and you could see the police crawling across 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:18.760 their face. And it was like ten pm and Pontiac, 0:11:18.800 --> 0:11:22.080 Michigan is really not anywhere I should be. 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:24.920 And my mom was like, yeah, go go get them. 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:25.679 Let's do it. 0:11:26.160 --> 0:11:28.840 And we drove there and knocked on the house. It 0:11:28.880 --> 0:11:34.440 had no electricity, and the guy was nice. He didn't 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:37.000 try to murder you. He did not okay, And you 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:40.079 could just hear puppies like screaming. So we were like, oh, 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:42.160 how many do you have? And he was like I 0:11:42.200 --> 0:11:44.880 am eight or so. So I was like, well, if 0:11:44.920 --> 0:11:48.040 I give you one hundred dollars now, will you not 0:11:48.120 --> 0:11:50.959 sell any of them? And like we'll come back for 0:11:51.000 --> 0:11:53.560 the rest. And you know, again, I do not condone 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:55.160 buying dogs off of Craigslist. 0:11:55.240 --> 0:11:57.280 Right again, this is pre rescue. 0:11:57.520 --> 0:12:00.480 And we got his whole litter, adopted all of them 0:12:00.480 --> 0:12:01.920 out and he was the last one to find a 0:12:01.960 --> 0:12:04.839 home and regieve from day one was like, this is 0:12:04.880 --> 0:12:05.200 my dog. 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:05.959 This is my dog. 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:08.640 And I'm like, no, we can't. We're moving to LA 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:12.559 And my favorite joke of it is I called him. 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:15.920 I'm like, okay, we can keep him under one circumstance 0:12:15.960 --> 0:12:18.079 and he's like anything. I'm like, we're changing his name 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:20.880 from Away from Jack's. He was named after Jack from 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:23.480 VANDR Pump Rules. My sister named him and I did. 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:24.040 Not like him. 0:12:24.160 --> 0:12:26.920 Yeah, and Regie was like, no, we're keeping him and 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:27.800 his name is Jacks. 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:30.120 I was like, okay, You're like fine, and then we 0:12:30.200 --> 0:12:32.480 loaded up into a U haul a couple of weeks. 0:12:32.360 --> 0:12:35.679 Later and off to LA. You went where we went 0:12:35.960 --> 0:12:37.760 I'm lucky enough to know Jax. He's one of my 0:12:37.840 --> 0:12:41.079 patients and Regieve loves this dog. 0:12:41.600 --> 0:12:45.280 Yeah, it's terrifying. It's very scary for me. Amazing. 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:48.800 He's eight now and we talk about him being eight 0:12:48.880 --> 0:12:49.280 a lot. 0:12:50.200 --> 0:12:52.200 So many owners do that. I'll find myself doing that, 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:54.520 like my three year old healthy dog. I'm like, when 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:56.280 the time comes, I don't know and I'm like, what 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:56.840 am I doing? 0:12:56.960 --> 0:12:57.160 Oh? 0:12:57.240 --> 0:12:58.600 It's so unhealthy. It is. 0:12:58.720 --> 0:13:00.480 It's called anticipatory grief. 0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:01.719 Okay, see, there you go. 0:13:01.880 --> 0:13:04.880 My therapist told me about it and that we both 0:13:04.960 --> 0:13:07.559 really suffer from it. That we just think about him 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:10.520 not being with us way more than that is healthy. 0:13:10.640 --> 0:13:13.439 Well as his terinarian, I can tell you he's extremely healthy. 0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:15.440 He really is, and he's going to live forever. So 0:13:16.120 --> 0:13:18.839 it's great genetic We're gonna throw that anticipatory grief out 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:21.920 the window. Okay, tell us a little bit about Wags 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:23.640 and Walks and what you guys do. 0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:26.560 Wags and Walks is a five o' and C three 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:29.880 nonprofit where a dog rescue. It started in Los Angeles, 0:13:29.960 --> 0:13:34.319 which is where I worked for four years, and Rejeev's 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:38.080 job took us to Nashville. The plan was not to 0:13:38.200 --> 0:13:42.360 open a second branch. It was the opposite of whatever 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:45.719 that can be. And he just kept joking, like you're 0:13:46.000 --> 0:13:48.440 gonna do it, You're gonna do it. And the more 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:51.560 I was visiting shelters and then getting farther away from 0:13:51.640 --> 0:13:54.520 being hands on with dogs, it started to. 0:13:54.480 --> 0:13:55.400 Creep into my mind. 0:13:55.640 --> 0:13:59.360 And then we found a piple, a black Piple, and 0:13:59.679 --> 0:14:03.679 all of for puppies, brought them home with like no hesitation, 0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:06.680 got them vetting, got them adopted out. And that was 0:14:06.760 --> 0:14:09.080 kind of my first dose of like, oh, like I 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:11.120 was my first foster, Like we did it, Like. 0:14:11.080 --> 0:14:12.400 I could do that again. 0:14:12.600 --> 0:14:16.360 Yeah, And it grew from there, and now we're almost 0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:19.640 five years old and have our first adoption center and 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:24.800 an incredible staff, and you know, we take a ton 0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:27.320 of pride in everything that we've built in regards to 0:14:27.360 --> 0:14:30.680 the foster program, the medical program, and it's become a 0:14:30.720 --> 0:14:32.320 big staple in the Nashville community. 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:34.000 Yeah, it is such a big staple. I feel like 0:14:34.080 --> 0:14:37.840 everyone in Nashville knows about it, especially if you're involved 0:14:37.840 --> 0:14:40.600 in any way or just even a dog lover. And 0:14:41.280 --> 0:14:43.280 I can really speak to the medical side of things. 0:14:43.360 --> 0:14:45.840 I've worked with a lot of rescues, and WAGS is 0:14:45.880 --> 0:14:48.800 far and away one of the if not the best 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:53.280 rescue as far as really seeking top care medical treatment, 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:57.040 and that is not inexpensive, but you guys really go 0:14:57.120 --> 0:14:59.720 the distance and you make sure that these pets are 0:15:00.520 --> 0:15:04.120 well vetted and healthy, and if they're not entirely healthy, 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:07.320 like being completely transparent with the adopters on what they're getting. 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:09.960 So I think it's pretty amazing that you should be 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:11.560 very proud, Thank you, welcome. 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:14.600 Yeah, I think it's so much of what WAGS has 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:18.720 been built upon has been why people hesitate to adopt 0:15:19.000 --> 0:15:21.040 and how do we rework that in a way that 0:15:21.120 --> 0:15:24.480 it can be for everyone. Medical is certainly a huge 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:26.160 part of that is people are like, well, how do 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:27.920 I know? And the answer is, if you go to 0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:31.320 a shelter, you're not really gonna know. Yeah, And that's no, 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:34.160 that's to no credit of you know, the shelter not 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:37.080 doing their best. Right when you're so limited on resources 0:15:37.120 --> 0:15:40.600 and staff and funding, what else are they going to do? Yeah, 0:15:40.720 --> 0:15:42.560 you know they'll and they'll be honest with you that 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:44.320 they're like, yeah, we you know, we don't know. This 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:47.720 dog's knees are great, right, So I think it's been 0:15:48.720 --> 0:15:50.800 a huge point of pride for the staff of just 0:15:50.840 --> 0:15:54.200 like getting feedback from fosters and you know that dog's 0:15:54.240 --> 0:15:55.960 drinking a lot of water. It's like, oh, well, maybe 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:58.720 a kidney issue. Yeah, yeah, you know the dog we 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:01.560 sent to you the other day. Now we have a 0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:04.040 great four heart murmur and you know, but there's a 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:06.920 ton of people out there that with the information, they'll 0:16:06.960 --> 0:16:08.440 still make the decision to adopt. 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:10.800 You just want them to have all the information, exactly 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:11.920 the full picture. 0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:22.440 I think that brings me to a really interesting point, 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:25.760 and so many of my clients are interested in adopting, 0:16:26.440 --> 0:16:29.400 but I think it's important when you're looking at a 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:30.360 rescue to. 0:16:31.840 --> 0:16:33.760 Make sure it checks a couple of boxes. 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:36.000 I would say, in my experience, not all rescues aren't 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:38.600 created equal. What do you think, what does wags do? 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:40.600 That kind of sets you guys apart. 0:16:41.440 --> 0:16:44.680 Yeah, it's a great question, I think, stemming off of 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:49.280 the medical side, giving people clear expectations and being as 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:53.640 transparent as possible from both the medical, behavioral and the 0:16:53.680 --> 0:16:57.160 take home of that dog. So most of our dogs 0:16:57.160 --> 0:16:59.560 are in foster homes, which means we can then have 0:16:59.600 --> 0:17:01.920 a conversation with you if you're applying to adopt a 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:04.280 dog and you have children, and I can say, hey, 0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:06.680 this dog is living with three kids and they're doing great, 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:08.720 or I can say I do not think this. 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:10.560 Dog will be a good fit for children. Like it's 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:11.200 on both. 0:17:11.000 --> 0:17:14.399 Sides of it, and so I think the transparency on 0:17:14.440 --> 0:17:18.000 that has been so helpful for making quality matches and 0:17:18.040 --> 0:17:21.359 lifelong matches because the return rate for a lot of 0:17:21.400 --> 0:17:23.600 rescues is where they struggle is you want to get 0:17:23.600 --> 0:17:25.040 that dog out the door and you want to get 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:28.520 them forever home. But there are so many wonderful people, 0:17:28.640 --> 0:17:30.679 but that doesn't mean that they're the perfect match for 0:17:30.880 --> 0:17:34.320 a lot of dogs. So learning more about the dog 0:17:34.400 --> 0:17:36.760 and being able to make that match, I think is 0:17:36.800 --> 0:17:38.440 what's been really successful for us. 0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:39.080 Yeah. 0:17:39.119 --> 0:17:43.480 Absolutely, it's interesting. Having three rescues of myself, I has 0:17:43.520 --> 0:17:45.040 really been an eye opener. And I think a lot 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:47.480 of people when they adopt dogs, they think, Okay, here 0:17:47.520 --> 0:17:49.000