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Speaker 1: Celebrity book Club. Who's that knocking at the door. It's

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Speaker 1: all your friends, your filthy horse, Your husband's gone and

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Speaker 1: you've got books and a bottle of wine to kill.

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Speaker 1: It's books, it's gossip. I'm shook. It's memoir. It's Martini

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Speaker 1: Book Club. Come read it while it's hot. Celebrit Book Club,

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Speaker 1: Tell your secrets. We won't talk celebrity books. No boys

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Speaker 1: are allowed. Celebrity book say it loud and cloud Celebrity

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Speaker 1: book Club. Buzz man. I brought the queer voet friend.

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Speaker 1: What the freak is? Us? So lovely to welcome you

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Speaker 1: into my home virtually on this beautiful Monday afternoon. Oh,

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Speaker 1: another stunning, rainy Monday case in the Mondays. God, I

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Speaker 1: think we just have to get into it because I'm

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Speaker 1: so fucking excited. I'm not. I'm bursting with not just

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Speaker 1: this all needs to go to auction, but it also

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Speaker 1: needs to go to my triple level basement storage, climate controlled.

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Speaker 1: I can't, I can't let things go. So this week

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Speaker 1: we read, we looked, at, we indulge, We indulge. We

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Speaker 1: lapped up like a fucking babbling brook. An absolutely doorstopper

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Speaker 1: of a design book, the only woman person human to

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Speaker 1: and Kennedy Center Honors. You know her from portraying herself

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Speaker 1: We are talking about none other than barbar and her

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Speaker 1: massive book, My Passion for Design, which is really all

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Speaker 1: about her house and her incredibly ambitious renovation. Huge ambitious renovations.

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Speaker 1: the ground up. It's a buildovation. Wait was the Medical

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Speaker 1: that was it's National Medal of Arts. Yeah, national Medical

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Speaker 1: Even though all proceeds of this book did go to

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Speaker 1: like a women's cardiovascular foundation, well, you know, she cares

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Speaker 1: she also was calling it a universal gym, my universal

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Speaker 1: never used. I think we all know that relaxing and

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Speaker 1: But then she was like the treadmill had to go

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Speaker 1: TVs but that was ugly. Um, okay, wait sidebar. But

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Speaker 1: this full, like eighteen hundred White House room and she's like,

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Speaker 1: its like museum into my own right, but you would

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Speaker 1: your designer. So to provide a little context. Barbara Streisan

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Speaker 1: are so talented and detail oriented. Yes, and riven as

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Speaker 1: she says, She's like, you know, this book is about details.

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Speaker 1: It was very just like, bitch, this is not your

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Speaker 1: I was actually during this book, I was like, wait,

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Speaker 1: it's literally been sitting in a thrip store for thirty years.

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Speaker 1: And and then she's just like and then in twenty twelve,

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Speaker 1: I emailed and it's email. It's very smalled, like e dashmail,

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Speaker 1: like when Clinton got because she was obsessed with right right,

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Speaker 1: like movie production people, because they're so skilled at reproductions,

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Speaker 1: not being her Meet the Focker's character, which is the

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Speaker 1: classic kind of my mom's a liberal mom. I'm covering

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Speaker 1: for Meet the Fuckers recreate an African mask that she's

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Speaker 1: in baige, dusty rose and saladon green based on an

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Speaker 1: ambusan rug. I found a copy I couldn't afford the

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Speaker 1: where she goes, I had a burgundy velvet couch made

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Speaker 1: and covered two side chairs in that same harring bone

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430
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Speaker 1: putting a menswear fabric on a chair that I died.

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Speaker 1: And whenever she mentioned mentions clothes and those books, she's

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Speaker 1: I used to be obsessed with fashion, but now my

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437
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438
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Speaker 1: my waistline isn't what it used to be. D K

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441
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Speaker 1: com slash book Club. Ditch the talk. First of all,

474
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Speaker 1: this picture where she has a dress that's made to

475
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: match her sofa. Oh that's so Stephens. Drim me a photo.

476
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 1: This is like her Funny Girl era. This is when

477
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 1: I think she sank. She really was like so into clothes,

478
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: like so many custom pieces, so materialistic, and now she's

479
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: just into little tops. I well, I read um Front

480
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: of the Pod. Alex had a collection of vintage Playboys

481
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: at her house, and I was reading they have articles. Okay,

482
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 1: I literally was reading an article. I swear it was

483
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 1: this interview with Streisand and she was from the seventies

484
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: and she was saying the same exact thing that people

485
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: think she's difficult, but if a man acted like her,

486
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: you know, oh yeah, She's like, I'm sorry, but cond

487
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 1: woman difficult is misogynistic, Okay. A man is pushy, a

488
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 1: woman's a bitch, A man's a perfectionist. And it's like

489
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: she this is what I'm saying about, like the invention

490
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 1: of the Karen, because it's like she takes that, but

491
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: then like to the m degree where she's like beheading Stonemasonry.

492
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: When she sends Renata with her favorite blue sweater to

493
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Speaker 1: Pacific Design Center to finally find a damask that will

494
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: work for the screening room after six hundred different fabrics

495
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: are rejected, and she's so devil wears Prada, like she'll

496
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: literally just be like people say they can't do stuff,

497
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: but that's actually just not true. Anything can happen. Yeah,

498
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: you just have to look long enough and you're like, Okay,

499
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 1: why are you being so nineties like scary boss right now?

500
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 1: She's like, I'm sorry, why don't you fit a circular

501
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: stairwell to my silo, to my recreated grain silo and

502
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 1: make it out of tempered steel and make it tomorrow.

503
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 1: The photo of the water wheel that's like on the highway,

504
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: She's like, we need to get lots of permitating clearances

505
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: for this water wheel to like to drive up here.

506
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 1: At some point there's only four hundreds of clearance on

507
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Speaker 1: an overpass, and then there's always this point where I

508
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 1: guess it's like I'm not renovating, so I don't know where.

509
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 1: Like she's running out of time because she only has

510
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: like a permit to install a silo for so long.

511
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 1: But then like is upset at the height of the

512
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Speaker 1: silo being installed, so they're like running against the clocks

513
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: like a waterfall installed. Um no, I mean that's difficult,

514
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: and you know, permitting is such a headache, and don't

515
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: get me started when you better be in bed with

516
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: the Santa Monica Town Hall before you start well, and

517
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:23,959
Speaker 1: some people are just ask my mother, I'm the section

518
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: about auctions. This skilled me. I don't like feeling a

519
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: sense of loss dot dot dot, even something I've lost

520
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: that an auction can haunt me years ago, And it

521
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: actually is, it's so good. And then you're trying to

522
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: recreate some hat you didn't get on e Bay. It's

523
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: like let it go. Years ago, a rare pin by

524
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: the Viennese architect Joseph Hoffman was coming up for sale,

525
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: and I left a bid because I couldn't attend. I

526
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: lost it to the next bidder. This is why I

527
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: don't like to leave bids. You have to at least

528
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: be on the phone. I was so upset, and then

529
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Speaker 1: of course I wanted it even more. My dear Nada Booster,

530
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: same Nada who she's sent with her own sweater to

531
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Speaker 1: get a damask. Nada's also her chef. I was like, wait,

532
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 1: what is Ranada's John No? Obviously like Granada's so like

533
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: has such long term post dramatic stress from me. Yeah,

534
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 1: and it's so Stockholm syndrome, and like Nada can't live

535
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: without Barbara, and it's like she's the Kimmy to Babs's

536
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: and in Nicole my dear Nanda Booster, who's been a

537
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: personal assistant for more than thirty five years, try to

538
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: have the pin copied for me, but it wasn't the

539
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: real thing. It's like that's Ranada trying to show initiative

540
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: and just being like, yeah, like makes this happen, Like well, whatever,

541
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: I made you a copy of the pin, and Barbara's like, oh, dear,

542
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: that's so sweet that you did that. Unfortunately it's not

543
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: the original pin, and I like that means nothing to me.

544
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: And you know, it took like Ranada probably like two

545
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: years to get this pin copied, and like it broke

546
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 1: like many relations and ships. So then she goes, I

547
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: wouldn't give up until I had traced that pin halfway

548
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: around the globe to a dealer in Germany, ended up

549
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: paying him four times when it went for an auction,

550
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 1: and then never wore it because it wasn't about the pin.

551
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: It's literally not about the pin. It's so wait, and

552
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: then she goes, Sometimes I think it's all connected to

553
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: the loss of a parent, because you do anything to

554
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: get that mother or father back, but you can't yet

555
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: with objects. There's a possibility. And now we come to

556
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: the story of Lily No. I mean, I'm the loss

557
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: of your father and you will never stop collecting brick

558
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: of Bracken dolls and weird light up Miller light signs

559
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: and the ass trays, you know, ever since. Also, we

560
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: did the Ruth book and she's always posting vintage menus.

561
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: Now that's a whole rabbit hole. I know I could

562
00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: go down and start buying off eBay, but I'm just

563
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: not going to do it until I have my storage

564
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:10,879
Speaker 1: barn with nineteen thirties Art deco architectured filing drawers. Like

565
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: I don't need another collection. I mean it would be interesting,

566
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: you know if like for Christmas or whatever, it's like

567
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: I got you this framed set of old menus and

568
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 1: it's like this beautiful, big thing, and then you're being

569
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: so bad. Oh it's so nice, but like they're actually

570
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,280
Speaker 1: not the menus like from the Carlisle that I wanted,

571
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 1: and so like this is really change the menus of

572
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: Shang show in ninety eight, and I was looking for

573
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 1: that early nineties Chinese American opulence. Do you remember the

574
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 1: part where she says, um, she's talking about the desk chair,

575
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: and she she finds this. She wants this antique desk

576
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 1: chair and she that again is just like such a

577
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: just like old man leather dust chair. The first chair

578
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,240
Speaker 1: she gets is she loves it, but then it turns

579
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 1: out it's too high for sight lines from the first floor.

580
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: If you like look up in the main atrium through

581
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,800
Speaker 1: the window into the office loft, you see the chair

582
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: like going above the window sill, and she's like, it's ghostly, like,

583
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: we can't have that. And because a lot of this

584
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: book is about the sightline from in the barn to up,

585
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: and that's why she gets actually gets rid of that

586
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 1: whole gym is because you like, you don't want to

587
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 1: see the both flow. You can't be like basically in

588
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 1: the if you want your house to look like the

589
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 1: White House, you don't want to look up and see

590
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 1: like a Nordic track, right awkward. And so then she

591
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: gets a shorter chair that turns out to be too short.

592
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 1: And then finally she's like in a friend's house and

593
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 1: they have this lovely vintage chair and she's like, I'm

594
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: sure she's been so manipulative and extreme and just being

595
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: like I've been searching for decades for a chair, and

596
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: this would be the perfect chair, but alas it's yours

597
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: and it's not mine, and if only it were in

598
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: my office. And then the friend like graciously agrees to

599
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,760
Speaker 1: sell it to her, right, you know, was so intense

600
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: and like, well it's bear Streisan me as Streisan is

601
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 1: gonna kill me if I don't give her my desk chair.

602
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 1: She is so ellen de generous in this way where

603
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 1: they go to a friend. It's a sister book to

604
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 1: Ellen's where you walk into your friend's house You're like,

605
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: this home is lovely, and look at that. I have

606
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 1: my check book with me. How much do you want?

607
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: And they're like it's not for sale and she's like, no,

608
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 1: but it is. And thank you Rolson for saying checkbook,

609
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: because she's very Josh, can you grab my pocketbook? I

610
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: need my checkbook because so checkbook and pocketbook. The most

611
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: genius part of her home before the mall, which we'll

612
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: get to, is her screening rooms. Like a lot of

613
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 1: rooms in this house, like I truly don't want to

614
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: sit in, but like I would fuck with her like

615
00:36:55,760 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: colonial screening rooms. Yeah, I mean the coaches do look deep,

616
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: I will say, because a lot of older sofas don't

617
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: feel that deeper. But I think, you know, we've talked

618
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 1: about this a lot in the podcast about how you

619
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: you know, to have a truly classy living room, you

620
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 1: don't want a TV, right, you know, And she like

621
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: does these genius ways of like hiding TVs and they

622
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: are like also random because like like she still does

623
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: want a TV in her bathroom like Kardashian style, but

624
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: instead of just being flat screen in the bathroom. She's

625
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: so fucking crazy and she's just like, here is a

626
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 1: tiny side maid's hutch that a small flat screen arises

627
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 1: out of in the bathroom and you're like, that's so insane.

628
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,280
Speaker 1: And she has that huge dark chest at the foot

629
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,760
Speaker 1: of her high bed that where a TV is hidden,

630
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: and you like remove of oz and then the TV

631
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: like slowly emerges from this hutch because she definitely does

632
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: watch TV. Luck because a lot of this book she

633
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: reminds you how much time she spends in bed. Yeah,

634
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 1: Like she loves to work in bed in the mornings.

635
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: She reads in bed. She's like a big stock stock

636
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: is a big stock trader. She s that part is

637
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: all insane. In the beginning, when the morning light comes

638
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: in and you can just trade stocks hours time the book.

639
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: I get a lot done in bed, writing, reading, trading, eating,

640
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 1: I trade stocks. It's a way of gambling without having

641
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 1: to get dressed. Okay, we have to talk about her

642
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: underground mall um. So this is like she's kind of

643
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 1: famous for this, but she has a full to me.

644
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: I all I can think it was Jordan's furniture, Like

645
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 1: it is fully Jordan's furniture, and it's um, it's Marche.

646
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 1: It's Marche. That insane. Yeah, it's like any international food

647
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 1: court where that's like that's made from It's literally it's

648
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: the Paris Hotel in Vegas. It's like that. It's just

649
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: like fake stone walkways and little archways and actual little

650
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:13,439
Speaker 1: stores with like little bay windows and sign them above

651
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: the stores being like yield sweet shop, and there's a

652
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: candy store, and there's an antique store, and there's like

653
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,399
Speaker 1: a doll store, and like she has two gays who

654
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 1: like she collects dolls with and like she's like I

655
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 1: wasn't down there and they haven't seen sunlight into join

656
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: like where the gays show us the gays because she'll

657
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: be like this is a favorite Stonemason. He took off

658
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 1: a third of an and she's a genius. And then

659
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 1: it's like, Michael and David are amazing. They'll come over

660
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 1: and we will just dress up this doll from nineteen

661
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: oh one, and it's not just about the clothes, it's

662
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 1: about their little chairs. And then she'll be like, it's

663
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 1: also confusing what's going on with her children. She'll like

664
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: show the scariest like bedroom the entire world, and she's like,

665
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 1: the this is my son's room. Who's like a forty

666
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: five year old gay man. You know, I know that

667
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 1: was so weird with like Molly, Like here are Molly's

668
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: like broken dolls from the eighteen tens, and like and

669
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: her in this entirely Mint called her like Doyle room

670
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 1: with eighteen bed skirts, and you're just like, um, is

671
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: Molly alive? Is Molly a ghost? Yeah? I looked at

672
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: her son. He is gay, and I guess like did

673
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 1: one duet with her, but he kind of shies away

674
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 1: from her son's actually gay. That actually gay. Barbara Streisan

675
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: actually had a gay son. That is too insane. It's

676
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 1: really too on the nose. That is kind of like honestly,

677
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: that is so just cursed to be Barbara Stars had

678
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: he sounds like he is cursed a bit like and

679
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 1: the only headline was like he won't watch Friends because

680
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: his dad is in it. Okay, Elliot dad is Eliott Gould's, Yeah,

681
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 1: Monica's dad. But then it's like he did like one

682
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: duet with Barbara. It's really crazy. The other thing on

683
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: her mall is it is also my favorite museum ever,

684
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 1: House on the Rock in Wisconsin shout Out, which is

685
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: like that museum is, you know, made by a completely

686
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: eccentric now dead millionaire who made like a city of

687
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: like a recreation of an eighteen hundreds dentist office, like

688
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: recreation of a pharmacy. But his I will say, we're better,

689
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: We're like again, hers are pretty besides the dollrooms like

690
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: her like vegetable room. It's like again, it's pretty home

691
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 1: Goods and maybe like who did it first? Barbara did,

692
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: and then Home Goods did, but like again, it's still

693
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: just being like pharmacy foe, like white paint. It's it's

694
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: giving vegas. I just opened up to this photo of

695
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 1: bedrooms with the dolls. It's so megan. It's so megan

696
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: and scary, like mean, the end of the boat just

697
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: gets so megan work because before it's like pages of

698
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 1: babbling Brooks and like her sketches, which is really cool,

699
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: and she's like, I made this drafting tables so I

700
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 1: could like pour over these books. And then it's just

701
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 1: like terrifying three pages of like scary doll after scary doll,

702
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: and she's like, I like my room shade of vanilla

703
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: ice cream. And then it's two like plastered fat babies

704
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:32,919
Speaker 1: just like beady eyes staring at you. And also she's

705
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:38,439
Speaker 1: obsessed with everything being just like a reproduction like of

706
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: something else that she found, but like that she's still

707
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: having remade but it's still my son. Jason did this

708
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,439
Speaker 1: little drawing when he was still in his teens, then

709
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: had it reproduced by a jeweler for me as a surprise,

710
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: but I still prefer the original. Jason has great taste

711
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: and is a great joy. It's so gay son to

712
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 1: be like, he's like, my son has great tast great tast.

713
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: Your mom to like her favorite gay waiters, like, oh,

714
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 1: my son Stephen lives in Queens. If you can believe it,

715
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:14,240
Speaker 1: it's cool now he has pretty good taste. I'll admit it, Okay,

716
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 1: I'll admit it. Um. Then she has this one of

717
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: the houses that she bought in her stocking scenario. She

718
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:27,320
Speaker 1: like finally redes in this like crazy raggedy Ann quilt vibe,

719
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 1: and it's just this house of couches covering quilt and

720
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: quote where she takes all of her Hollywood meetings so

721
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 1: people aren't intimidated by her. Oh with the that I

722
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: actually okay, I kind of like that because that would

723
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: be like Shabby. It was Shabby's she was, yeah, Western Mass. Well,

724
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: you know, she talks about the arcs and crafts movement

725
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: and how she was really good about the arts and

726
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 1: crafts move really into the ads and crafts movement, And

727
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: I do feel like a lot of those very quint

728
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: essential American quilts that are overlaid over all the couches.

729
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 1: It does remind me of kind of rust belt communities,

730
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 1: Western mass even New York, like that kind of that

731
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 1: real comfy interior, old old spaces and the kind of

732
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: like Tony Bennett was so freaked out by me when

733
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 1: I said this is where I record, and she's like,

734
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 1: but this is also what's so mom about her. She's like,

735
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: we got a fiber optic cable installed so I can

736
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:29,760
Speaker 1: be recording in my quilt room and someone in London

737
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: can be hearing it using the same speakers. Can you

738
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 1: believe fiber optics? Fiber optics, it's the future. Now here

739
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 1: are two paintings. Um, if you want to turn to

740
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 1: two sixty six, and I know we have to get

741
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 1: to seconds telling, but there this is where she gets

742
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 1: a little funky. They're kind of like, um, they're these

743
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: like modernist kind of Picasso like New England paintings. They

744
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 1: are of Lincoln and another one of Martha's vineyard. But

745
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: they're like really funky and kind of like coasted. Yeah. Yeah,

746
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 1: they're a little bit more surreal. I would say, yeah

747
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: they are. Yeah, they're gorgeous. They're cool, and I I

748
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 1: thought were cool. And I also thought in the page

749
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 1: before these are some things I love because there is

750
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 1: just an overwhelming sense of I'm like, this house is

751
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 1: crazy in a stubbage village, but she has this Cranberry stemwear.

752
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 1: Oh in the insane full cranberry dining room. Insane like

753
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 1: deep bread curtains and like everything's red. No, I'm not

754
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 1: trying to have a full Cranberry dining room, but I

755
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 1: think notes of Cranberry. Well, I love how every room

756
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,399
Speaker 1: is monochromatic for her, because she was like, well, it's

757
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,320
Speaker 1: just simply too crazy to have all these She's like,

758
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: I don't understand. She really doesn't like like maximalist style

759
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 1: or like you know whatever, Like I feel like most

760
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 1: modern sounds very eclectic in different colors, and she's like,

761
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 1: I don't know where to look. You've got pink pillows

762
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 1: and yellow books. No, everything needs to be the same color.

763
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:56,800
Speaker 1: And then you start to notice the different shades of damask. Yeah. No,

764
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,399
Speaker 1: she's all, it's run and shades of vanilla, because that's

765
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 1: a huge thing with the wood, and she's always like

766
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 1: searching for wood to be shades like one below another.

767
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 1: What's cool about Barb Streisand is she like, which I

768
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 1: want to start doing? Like she plans her tours around

769
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 1: where she wants to go shopping. Yeah, she was like,

770
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 1: I did a five city European tour because I wanted

771
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 1: to go to an antique shop in Czechoslovakia. And You're like, well,

772
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: of course when you're like that insanely rich, she's like,

773
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 1: and then we went to the south of France because

774
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: I had to go here, and I mean let that

775
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: be a lesson, you know what I mean. If that's

776
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: what you care about, well you should plan all trips

777
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: around what you actually care about. You know, absolutely, Hey,

778
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:45,879
Speaker 1: club kids this week in the VIP lounge. Yeah, we're

779
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 1: talking nine million restaurants. Why lesbians are now horny for

780
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 1: gay guys and going to meet the breeds at Javit

781
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 1: Center and now people are just in zazzle merch of

782
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: their breed. It's being like, don't talk to me until

783
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:09,439
Speaker 1: like my Pekinese has had their child, Like if it's

784
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 1: if it's not a Siberian Lakshmi, I'm not coming ye.

785
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: Go to Patreon dot com sas CBC the pod to

786
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 1: hear the whole damn thing, darling. My passion for segments.

787
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 1: What does she eat? What does she wear? And how

788
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,359
Speaker 1: does she live? I think we know how she lives.

789
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: We know how she lives. Let's get into what she

790
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 1: eats because we haven't talked about this. So she doesn't

791
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 1: cook except for two things, which is so I love

792
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: the type of person who's like, oh, Donna, I don't cook,

793
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 1: but I make the most amazing hoisons fairs. Well, like

794
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 1: all boomers, she loves Panasian um, I mean they sounded good.

795
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 1: She's like, it's just so easy hoison lasses brown sugar water.

796
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 1: And you're like, okay, but you can make nothing else.

797
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: It's just like that's such a random I feel post

798
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 1: a similar recipe like on her Instagram. Basically, so this

799
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 1: is what you're gonna do. It's hoists in sugar water

800
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,399
Speaker 1: and then the filets and you're done. And you don't

801
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 1: you put in the oven done. So Nada makes all

802
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 1: of her food. But so she does this, she's being

803
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 1: so fresh to mate and she goes you. She's like,

804
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 1: you haven't tasted a tomato until it's homegrown. You just haven't.

805
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 1: She's like, and Nada, should we grow couliflour And Nada

806
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 1: makes it into mashed potatoes. And and sometimes I just

807
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: walk into the kitchen, Nada gives me a spoonful of

808
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: keen wa black beans. Nada's just spooning this keena into

809
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 1: Barbara's mouth, just mean, like, oh, Barbara, I love you,

810
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 1: you know. And she's being like, m what is this

811
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 1: And she's like, oh, is that from the cucumbers in

812
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: the garden last week? Oh my god, Nada you did

813
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 1: it again. Remind me? Can you pick up this Swede fabric.

814
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 1: I actually have no idea what I want, but I

815
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 1: need you to find it. And I mean, and then

816
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 1: she's entertaining. I mean what she wears Donna, Karen, Donna, Donna, Donna, Donna,

817
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 1: they both love, you know, a stretchy waistline, a black top.

818
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 1: I mean, they're her sunglasses. The best photos in this book.

819
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,359
Speaker 1: What's cool is also in the beginning of the book,

820
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 1: you there's like a fold out poster which I kind

821
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: of want to tear out, and oh, my god, of

822
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:50,320
Speaker 1: the house. Yeah, that's like two sided. It's a full double.

823
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 1: It's like it's like a centerfold, you know in Playboy,

824
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,919
Speaker 1: but it's a double centerfold, and it's the house at night,

825
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 1: and you can see the beam work. Yeah, and you

826
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 1: almost kind of forget when you're deep in the book,

827
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 1: You're like, this house is so dark. This house is

828
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 1: so dark. But the painting on the outside of the

829
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 1: house is white. Well, this is the main house, not right,

830
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 1: not the barn, the barn, not the mill in the

831
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 1: barn um the end how she actually lives in, which

832
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,240
Speaker 1: is like so much more normal. I mean, it's still

833
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 1: being kind of white house, but it's less white house

834
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 1: and more just like French country, Like, yeah, it's not

835
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 1: even it's not even Nancy Meyer at all. It's just

836
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 1: like a weird old candlesticks and stuff, tons of frame

837
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 1: photos like velvet frame. She also will say what's not

838
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 1: Nancy Myers about her and is that she likes a tall,

839
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,439
Speaker 1: thin candle, like an old candle, labra candle and not

840
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 1: she does not have big fat like you know, modern candles.

841
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 1: She's stemwear, she's not stemless. She's big candle. Absolutely, But

842
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: don't you think Seth Rogan sent her one of his

843
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 1: candles from like home goods. And because they have like

844
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 1: a fun relationship because a Jewish thing they did a

845
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 1: movie about, like going to going on a road trip

846
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 1: in Israel together, right okay, And he's like a stoner

847
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:18,800
Speaker 1: and she's like a bossy Jewish mom, right, literally playing

848
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 1: each other. And she probably like hid it away in

849
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:24,320
Speaker 1: one of her many like antique room store rooms, definitely

850
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 1: like regifted it to like Rnata's nephew. Yeah yeah, And

851
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 1: she's like writing sef in one of her like many

852
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 1: federal writing rooms, being like, oh, Seth, I adored the candle.

853
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 1: We thank you so much for your gift, and we

854
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 1: do hope to see you at the Federal Ball next winter.

855
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 1: You must come over. I will make my spare ribs

856
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 1: sparbs at the Federal Ballum who are in the book.

857
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 1: I'm so this is when I realized I was Barbara.

858
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 1: I knew the dolls and the hunt and the antique,

859
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 1: but I was like, I'm not. And for a second

860
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:07,839
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, but I'm so not obsessed with

861
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,879
Speaker 1: like fucking old ass America. And then I was like, wait,

862
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 1: I'm literally obsessed with presidents Clinton stuff. And she gets

863
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 1: to this George Washington painting she had remade, and then

864
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 1: she had a chair made out of a fabric that

865
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 1: matched George Washington's coat in the painting. Yeah, And I

866
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,760
Speaker 1: was like, I roll And then I realized, last week

867
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 1: I bought I bought a T shirt that is Mount

868
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 1: Rushmore as bikers all drinking beer, okay, And then you

869
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,879
Speaker 1: took it out and you had recovered an Ottoman. Well,

870
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 1: I was just like, I'm buying. I'm also buying like

871
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:51,320
Speaker 1: George Washington, like bear Finalia. Yeah. I mean I think

872
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: you know what she does is she's always like really

873
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: consciously trying to make these connections between things she buys

874
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 1: and then like the room she's designing and she's having

875
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:03,760
Speaker 1: everything just like custom match each other. And that's something

876
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 1: you could be doing more of. M M. Yeah, I

877
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 1: could take a risk and be a little more custom

878
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 1: matching because you're being a little bit like, I mean,

879
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 1: you finally got that new dresser on Instagram that we're

880
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:18,280
Speaker 1: all excited about it. Yeah, we're not so sponsored by Kayo,

881
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 1: but now we are. And I don't know if that

882
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,399
Speaker 1: was so you hunting in the Lore Valley, but like

883
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,839
Speaker 1: you did find it, I was hunting. But yeah, it's

884
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 1: like now I think that you could maybe be going

885
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 1: to your tailor and being like, I'd love for you

886
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 1: to make me a pair of stockings that matches this

887
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 1: stressor to just have a little bit more synchronicity and

888
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 1: harmony in the room. And I think in the ways

889
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 1: your you are, Barbara is like you are so in

890
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:51,919
Speaker 1: the way that this recommendation you just gave to me,

891
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 1: I feel like if you were designing a house, like

892
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 1: you would be like, mm no, I want that beam thinner.

893
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 1: Yeah she said that. I was like, I'm sorry, but

894
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: she's right, Yeah, You're like, the beam does need to

895
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: be like, you can't have a hugely wide beam and

896
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:09,399
Speaker 1: a thin beam. You would be like, no, let's get

897
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 1: these beams to match and get back to me. When

898
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 1: they do, I'll be in the Lowar Valley. I think

899
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 1: I aspire to be more Barbara, and this is what

900
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:19,359
Speaker 1: I want to be even more. You know, everyone when

901
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 1: they come over my house, they always say, oh, it's

902
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 1: so it's so nice, it's so cute, it's so clean,

903
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:27,320
Speaker 1: you know, little little kind of small words. They describe

904
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:31,240
Speaker 1: my home with small words. But I want people to gasp.

905
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:35,760
Speaker 1: I want them to gasp. But that's the search because

906
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 1: Barbara wants people to gasp at the beams. But no

907
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 1: one is but her, right. But they don't know they're

908
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:45,760
Speaker 1: gasping at the beams, and they might not gasp if

909
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 1: the beams didn't match. Possibly, And that's what keeps you

910
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 1: up at night. Oh my god, I cannot sleep literally

911
00:54:56,080 --> 00:55:02,320
Speaker 1: gasped at my beams. Okay, I give this book absolutely

912
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:09,320
Speaker 1: like ten George Washington like matching chair to cot Um

913
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 1: Chairs out of ten no note, literally no notes, no,

914
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 1: absolutely no notes. I give this ten Art Nouveau Bronzes

915
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 1: out of ten. Ten Vienna Secession Pewter bulls out of

916
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,399
Speaker 1: ten and of course ten Tiffany lamps. I will say,

917
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 1: Tiffany lamps always make me think of Applebee's, and it's

918
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 1: hard for me not to associate because, oh, because Applebee's

919
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 1: do they have like hanging because of those hanging foe

920
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 1: like lamps above the tables. And it's the same like color,

921
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 1: you know, the reds and the greens and the ambers.

922
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:45,240
Speaker 1: Like Barbara got. She sold all of her Tiffany lamps

923
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:47,319
Speaker 1: and she regrets it, she says multiple times in the book.

924
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 1: So a lot of regret. That a lot of regret.

925
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 1: You think it's just a coffee tape book and like,

926
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 1: oh haha, Barbara Stris and she's fabulous. You open up

927
00:55:55,520 --> 00:56:01,800
Speaker 1: this book. It's an American tragedy. Yeah. And it's about

928
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 1: the violence of non rounded coffee tables. It's about the

929
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 1: misogyny of a difficult woman. It's about desire and second

930
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: marriages and growing up with plastic furniture. And that's why

931
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:17,320
Speaker 1: you don't have orange ki in your pond, because the

932
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 1: orange simply would clash with the red house away when

933
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 1: she goes it's very talmodic to question everything, which is

934
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 1: so yental I mean, that's what Yental is all about.

935
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 1: What have you seen Yental? I know, I literally yesterday

936
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 1: I need to watch Gent so I've just been watching it. Um.

937
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 1: It is insane. It's about her being. It's very like

938
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 1: you know, Joan of Arc. She addresses as a boy

939
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 1: and it's very she cuts her hair and like puts

940
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 1: on glasses and everyone's just like, you're a boy. And

941
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 1: so it's like she wants to like study the telemood

942
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 1: and like be this like rabbinical rock star and her

943
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 1: dad dies who she just like pretends to be boy

944
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:57,760
Speaker 1: and like all the other just like laddish young rabbis

945
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 1: and training are like joshing her and If nineteen o

946
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 1: two and they're in eastern Poland and they're all just

947
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 1: like frolicking and being random, and she's just like, oh god,

948
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 1: I don't know they're gonna find out I'm a woman.

949
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 1: But she's so good at the tora. You're like, damn,

950
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:14,840
Speaker 1: you're good at the tora. And it's like a musical randomly.

951
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 1: I know, I feel like that line about so talmudic

952
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 1: me was like her only reference to Judaism, because this

953
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 1: whole book is so waspy. Another episode for that. Um yeah,

954
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 1: I mean it's waspy. The esthetic obviously with all of

955
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 1: the like eighteen hundreds and the seventy hundred, like this

956
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 1: colonial and the arts and craftstuff and the Shaker desire

957
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 1: for waspiness from that's incredibly East Coast too, though, you know. Yeah,

958
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 1: it's like just because she isn't being so like white

959
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 1: couches in Double Island and like so Nancy Myers or

960
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 1: like so obviously Brunch, it doesn't mean that it's not

961
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 1: I wasn't saying culturally, No, it's culturally yours I'm saying,

962
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 1: but it's about the desire to for like waspiness and

963
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 1: like you know old yes time Christian America, Yes, simpler

964
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 1: time another time. Um, okay, club kids, who another one.

965
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 1: This was a really thrilling book. Um, you got this

966
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 1: for like seven dollars on like thrift books dot com,

967
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 1: frit books dot com. Yeah, because if you're gonna Google,

968
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 1: because all of you are, you're gonna want it, and

969
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 1: you're gonna see fifty dollars okay on probably Amazon dot com,

970
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 1: and you're gonna get a book and you're gonna get

971
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 1: and you're gonna be like, oh, these podcasters showing out

972
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 1: fifty dollars and it's no literally thrift books dot com.

973
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 1: I got it for six so it's a great stalking

974
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 1: stuff for she kept your huge us stalking Um. Yeah,

975
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 1: make sure you have the space for this book. It's

976
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 1: like ways of three hundred pounds um, but it's worth

977
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 1: every penny. All right, We'll see you next week. Club Kids,

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00:58:54,880 --> 00:59:03,280
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00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:06,720
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