1 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 1: Welcome Berg Gang and welcome to Overreaction Monday. Hey, that's 2 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: what happens after a loss, including me. Mike Direcky may 3 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 1: or may not have had to talk me off the 4 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: ledge during today's show. Just what went wrong? Especially quarterback? 5 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: Haven't seen too many performances, if any like that from 6 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. You've got to get number eleven more involved. 7 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: We talked Larry Fitzgerald, but first, an update on what 8 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: has quickly become a depleted safety position. It's Cardinals Cover two, 9 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: Episode three twenty and it starts now. Welcome to Cardinals 10 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 1: Cover two with Craig Griga lew and Mike Direcki. Cardinals 11 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: Cover two is presented by Hyunday, proud partner of the 12 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts visit acy Cardinals 13 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: dot Com, Slash Podcasts. Murray rolls to the right, throws 14 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: near side of bets Bot. He is in the ends 15 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 1: after the touchdown. Here's Craig Grielou and Mike Jarecki. Well, 16 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: certainly a different feeling here on this Monday than the 17 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: previous two Mondays. MG, and I gotta admit, I mean 18 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: it's obvious, but I prefer mondays after wins versus after losses. 19 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: How about you. Oh, I'm with you. But there's a 20 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: reason why to play the game, and we highlight it. 21 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: Would bands Joseph told the media last Thursday that they 22 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: were on high alert. This is the best offense they 23 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: had faced so far, not that against Garoppolo or Dwayne Haskins. 24 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: But and then you get kind of got Dalladay back, 25 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 1: and you know, obviously we're gonna get into what they 26 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 1: tried to do with the Cardinals, and you know, they 27 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: made plays when they had to it. Anytime you go 28 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: into a game and you turn the ball over three times, 29 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: you're probably not gonna win. It's the NFL that comes 30 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: down to blocking and tackling and execution. But yeah, I mean, 31 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: I prefer to talk about it. But listen, we know 32 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: this team wasn't going to sixteen to No. You had 33 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: a great line to start the show last night. So 34 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: back to the grinding board. Twenty six, twenty three, the 35 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: final Sunday at State Farm Stadium. The Lions pick up 36 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: their first win, the Cardinals lose for the first time 37 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: here in twenty twenty. Before we get into the news 38 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: of the day with regard to Buddha Baker and the 39 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: safety position. Our quote from Corey Peters different than the 40 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: one we discussed on Cardinal Talk. Quote sometimes winning can 41 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: be a band aid over things we do wrong. End quote. 42 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: We talked the past two Mondays and even going into 43 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: tuesdays after wins on how it's easy to correct mistakes, 44 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,239 Speaker 1: and sometimes those mistakes, you know, they're they're buried a 45 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: little bit. They don't come to the surface when you win, 46 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: and then when you lose, all of a sudden, everything 47 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: gets pushed up front, highlighted, bold face, alarm sound. And 48 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 1: I don't know how much of what we saw on 49 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: Sunday we didn't see week one in week two. It's 50 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: just now, when it's a loss, you can sit there 51 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 1: and go with a fine tooth, come and figure out 52 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 1: exactly what is not going right with this team. And 53 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: I'm talking all three phases, offense, defense, and special teams. Yeah, 54 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: they Troit was the better team. I mean again, you 55 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 1: can look at the stats first downs, you know, third 56 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: down conversions, but you can't turn the ball over. And 57 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: Corey Peters, he's right down. And they warned us last week, 58 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: don't crown us. We've only played two games and Corey 59 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: Peters is kind of the voice reason on defense. You know. Obviously, 60 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: you know, Chandler and Patrick and Buddha are obviously guys 61 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: that you know when they talk, you listen. But Corey's 62 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: he's got to he's kind of the compass in that 63 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: locker room when it comes to what he thinks. And so, 64 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: um yeah, I mean it's you know, you're going to 65 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,119 Speaker 1: the game. We talk about how they're the worst team 66 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: in the league, you know, stopping the run, and you know, 67 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: I thought they're gonna try to throw on him, but 68 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: we knew that, you know, they wanted to kind of 69 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: get Kenyan Drake going and then Chase Edmonds and you know, 70 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: look at how the Lion started the game off. They 71 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: chewed close six and a half seven minutes off the clock. Now, 72 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: granted they only got a field goal out of it, 73 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: but Matt Patricia said that was part of the game plan. 74 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: He said, I think it was really important for us 75 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 1: to try to do its best to control the game. 76 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: They have an explosive offense or dynamic with their quarterback 77 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: and skill position players. I thought our offense did a 78 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: good job of slowing them down. In other words, keeping 79 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: them on the sidelines. Now, obviously when three interceptions, they 80 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: probably preferred to put him back on the field. But 81 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 1: I noticed that early on. And matt Patricia was was 82 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 1: asked after the game, you know what his nickname is? 83 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 1: Maddie Pete. Okay, not Maddie Ice, No, Maddie Pete and Craig. 84 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, every time i've been too the combine, 85 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: I'm always in the elevator with a very nice He 86 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: held the elevator door for me. He looked down at 87 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: my credential. He said, I remember playing you guys in 88 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: the week one last. You're really nice guy. So he 89 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: was asked after the game, can you give us your 90 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: philosophy of defending Kyler Murray? He said, quote, I don't 91 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: think we'll probably give the philosophy out to ourselves to ourselves. 92 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: So and then Matthew Stafford said, you know, it was 93 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: great to get the turnovers. He also said they could 94 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: have put up forty points in that game. Yeah, it 95 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: was not pretty from the Cardinals perspective, and it's might 96 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: not be getting any better, at least defensively on the 97 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: back end. And updates on Buddha Baker, head coach Cliff 98 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: Kingsbury confirmed after the ballgame, as did Baker on social media, 99 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: that yes, he is undergoing thumb surgery this week. As 100 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: far as how long he's going to be out is 101 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: the big question, according to Kingsbury, quote hopefully sooner rather 102 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 1: than later, and then later. With Bickley and Marauda ninety 103 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: eight seven FFM Arizon, a sports station his weekly guest spot, 104 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: he said, quote, we are hopeful Buddha will only be 105 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: a week, but you never know. End quote. So short term, 106 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 1: he misses this week against Carolina and is able to 107 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 1: return on the road at the Jets, but you don't 108 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 1: know how long it's going to be, and you certainly 109 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 1: have to figure out a way to not only deal 110 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: with this week without your number one tackler and someone who, 111 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: Kingsbury said, quote makes a lot of things right defensively 112 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: end quote, factor in Chris Banjo's health, who was officially 113 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 1: listed day to day with a hamstring injury. So your 114 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: top two safeties, you're already without Jalen Thompson, who's on 115 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: IR for at least another week, maybe more. We don't 116 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:31,119 Speaker 1: know how he's progressing, so you're you're scraping the bottom 117 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 1: of the barrel right now with this roster. As far 118 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: as the safety position, yeah, and I guess it's good 119 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: news they didn't put Buddha on short term. Ir That 120 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 1: means he would have missed three games, so that's encouraging. Yeah, 121 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 1: but he had that cast on yesterday. You wonder how 122 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 1: much sex is going to affect him. He did miss 123 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: a couple of tackles, but obviously he puts himself in 124 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: position to make the tackles, so you can begrudge you 125 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 1: a guy for that. Yeah, it's I mean Deontay Thompson, 126 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: he lost his spot, you know, considering he was thrown 127 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: in the mix. I thought he was decent in the 128 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: open field tackling. You know, you're gonna have some miscommunication 129 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: back there just because you had Curtis Riley, who's really 130 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: their fishing safety out there. I mean, that's where they 131 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: were based on numbers. So it's interesting, Craig, and we 132 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: go through this every year. Like last year, there's a 133 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: running back position, you know, when David Johnson got hurt 134 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: and Chase Edmins got hurt and they brought in Alfred 135 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: Moores the Zach Center and they made the trade for 136 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: Kenyan Drake, a couple of years ago, it was the 137 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: offensive line. They had at least ten guys on you know, 138 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: thirteen different match I think combinations, they had x amount 139 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: of guys. And this year it's a safety position. And 140 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: now we're going to get into with what Kingsbury mentioned, 141 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:53,119 Speaker 1: and again we know he was the eighth overall picking 142 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: the draft kind setting these reps. You know, obviously his 143 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: snapcount's been limited because of Jordan Hicks, you know, and 144 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: also Devandre Campbell. And you got to throw a redikin. 145 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: There's a pass rusher, so you know, listen, this guy 146 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,239 Speaker 1: has known that he can do a couple of different things. 147 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: So I'm not saying they need to fill that role, 148 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: but this is another option if they choose to go 149 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: with Isaiah Isaiah Simmons in the secondary, and that is 150 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: someone that Kingsbury said, quote, we may have to look 151 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: into that endcote with respect to playing Simmons at the 152 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: safety position, a spot that he's familiar with. He understands 153 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: that spot as he played it at Clemson. Though here 154 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, you're putting a rookie into 155 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: an interesting spot because you're bouncing him around. Are you 156 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: overloading him that's a concern Kingsbury brought up. Yet at 157 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: the same time, he's used to playing different positions of course, 158 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: not only during the season, but across a game. And 159 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: I think if you look at the roster right now, 160 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: MJ with your healthy safety is on the roster Deantey Thompson, 161 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: Curtis Riley and Charles Washington. The latter is more of 162 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: a special teams guy. You have to sit there. If 163 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 1: your advance Joseph all right, Thompson, Riley, Washington, are they 164 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: better than in Isaiah Simmons. And if the answer is no, 165 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: then it doesn't matter that you're concerned about putting a 166 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: rookie into a difficult position going up against the Panthers 167 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: the Jets, and for hour long he's your best option. 168 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: You throw him out there. I agree, and once again 169 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 1: there's going to be some growing pains, but you know 170 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: everything you hear. Though he wants to learn basically every 171 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: position that he could possibly play in the NFL, we 172 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: know that he was taking reps more for footwork with 173 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: the defensive backs. He bounces around in different drills during 174 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 1: the open portion of practice, and so it's all about 175 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 1: your eyes where your eyes are, you know, it's going 176 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: to be different than leaning in the front seven where 177 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: you're close to the action. Here, I assume they would 178 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: drop him in the box like Udha and have him rush. 179 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:03,719 Speaker 1: I mean, he puts those arms up, he's gonna get 180 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: some deflected balls. But again, you know, listen, this is 181 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: what happens every year. You want to slow play a 182 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: guy and then you have injuries. So he has the 183 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: eighth overall pick. He'll get better as the season progresses. Um, 184 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 1: he has the athleticism, but he just he doesn't have 185 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: the experience and that I'll be honest. And that came 186 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: against the Niners. Looks like Kyle Shanahan went at Isaiah Simmons. 187 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: I mean he went at It wasn't like once he 188 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 1: knew he was covering Mosert, he went at him. And 189 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: you know, I think you're going to see more teams 190 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 1: put spies on Kyler Murray keep him in the pocket. 191 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: But yeah, so it's it's going to be interesting. But 192 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 1: he's got the skill set to play the position. It's 193 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: just we need to temper the expectations at least initially. 194 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: And we talked about what is his stat com going 195 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 1: to be in the month of September. Well, now we 196 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: know what's going up. Well, the experience, he does not 197 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: have the athleticism he does have. He's got the size 198 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: to be able to cover tight ends, he's got the 199 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,719 Speaker 1: speed to be able to cover some of those slot receivers. 200 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: You brewing up putting him in the box. You also 201 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: maybe just send him out there and say, hey, play 202 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: center field, help on one side of the field or 203 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 1: the other. Not that you're getting him away from the action, 204 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: but the less mistakes that he can make, the better. 205 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: So it's going to be I wouldn't say fun, but 206 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,319 Speaker 1: it is going to be interesting to see what direction 207 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: the defense decides to go, and specifically defensive coordinator Van 208 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: Joseph with Simmons as an option, do you look outside 209 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 1: the organization? There are reports that Tony Jefferson certainly someone 210 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: familiar with a ton of Cardinals, but he's coming off 211 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: and torn acl Could he be someone that could plug 212 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: in and be an option for the Cardinals. But it 213 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: does need to be addressed, and obviously this week because 214 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: right now my guess is Banjo, unless he practices on Wednesday, 215 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: will be out this week just because of his reaction 216 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: and watching him walk back into the locker room. So 217 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: you're without your staughter, you're without your backup. And then 218 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,839 Speaker 1: Jalen Thompson has to miss this week, as we talked about, 219 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 1: so it could be Isaiah Simmons and Deante Thompson as 220 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: your two safeties. Yeah, you know, and Tony obviously he's 221 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 1: coming off at torn ECL and you know it happened 222 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: during the season, happened early in this season, I want 223 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,319 Speaker 1: to say last year, and I was devastated for him 224 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: because you know, he was starting to make his niche 225 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:33,559 Speaker 1: he was able to go out and get a new contract. 226 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 1: But coming off in ACL, I mean it's and again 227 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: you got the COVID protocol and then you got to 228 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: make sure we're kind of football shape he's in, So 229 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: you know, I'd be curious to see. I like the name, 230 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: but you got to wonder how ready could he be 231 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 1: in one week. And I don't know how feasible that is. 232 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: Obviously they'll do their due diligence and try to find 233 00:12:56,280 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: out more information. The other possibility is if you just 234 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: go with one safety, Deontay Thompson, and you play an 235 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: extra corner, maybe Kevin Peterson gets some plays out there. 236 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: You play more linebackers, and Simmons just becomes a jack 237 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: of all trades. There's really not a position that you 238 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: label him with. Sometimes you'll see him outside, inside, in 239 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: the secondary, close to the line of scrimmage. I mean, 240 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: you can do a number of different things. But the 241 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 1: more mixing and matching you're doing, it's like when we 242 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: talk about trying to figure out holes to fill on 243 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 1: an offensive line. Then all of a sudden, that puts 244 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 1: another spot at a weakness because you're trying to figure 245 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: out where you can best put all these pieces together 246 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:47,439 Speaker 1: and form somewhat of a workable puzzle. Yeah, and we 247 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: got to bring it up and be trains brought it up, 248 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: and that's from a player's perspective. He didn't have a 249 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 1: normal off season. Now again it was for all thirty 250 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: two teams, but we focus on the Cardinals and then 251 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: we focus on their opponent coming up, you know, throughout 252 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: the course of the week, no preseason games. I mean, 253 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 1: Chandler Jones says he missed the preseason and you know, 254 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 1: he's off to a slow start, and when he comes 255 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: to the secondary, granted they've had a couple of interceptions 256 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 1: and they gate it um. You know, you look at 257 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: Banjo and Hicks and Niners game, but they're not forcing 258 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: uh you know, interceptions or turnovers and so that and 259 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: that that that could be a catch twenty two. It 260 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: could be the pass rush not getting there. They're trying 261 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: to cover a little bit more in the secondary. So 262 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: you know, I think Byron Murphy could be the wildcard 263 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: though too. I mean, when we know that he's going 264 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: to play corner or slot, but I think he can 265 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: cover tight ends. You know, when they said that Isaiah 266 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: Simmons would be an eraser, so that position's kind of 267 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 1: like a rover or a joker, where basically he can 268 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: line up anywhere. And in fairness, the Vands, I liked 269 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: how they're they're rushing five, but Brad Stafford just got 270 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: rid of the ball so fast and they were doing 271 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: these short routes. So again, you'd like to see him 272 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: get more pressure on the quarterback, you know, and Chandler 273 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: could be getting double teamed. You know, you just wonder, 274 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: you know, did he get enough conditioning in the offseason 275 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: to where, you know, he's playing a lot of snaps. 276 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: He's playing basically every snap, so there's no break for him, 277 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: and that's the you know him. It looks like Canard 278 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: and Reddick are kind of alternating here now to keep 279 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: those guys stretched show. Um, they're gonna have to figure 280 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: it out. But um, you know again, you got to 281 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: get pressure on the quarterback in the front seven in 282 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: order to get some turnovers. And you know they haven't 283 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: got the turnovers that they were hoping for. And last 284 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: year when Hicks let him in in interceptions and obviously 285 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: Patrick missed six games. Um, and then I think it 286 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: was was a terrain Brock or somebody had. I don't 287 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: remember who was number two on the list. So turnovers, 288 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: and you know how I feel it. I mean, Sax 289 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: are so misleading and over rated. It's get off, get 290 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: him off his spot. But we're talking about the number 291 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: one pick, a Pro Bowl player, Matthew Stafford. And he 292 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: was even the kind of Carver Carver away yesterday just 293 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: picking his spots where he wanted to throw the ball. Yeah, Kingsbury, 294 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: after the ballgame. Quote, you give that quarterback who's a 295 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl player the ball last he's going to beat you. 296 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: End quote. And that's exactly what happened on Sunday. One 297 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: more note on Simmons and maybe this spurs him a 298 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: little bit. Maybe he is more comfortable going from one 299 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: position room to another, and that's just how his mind operates. Hey, 300 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: give me as much as you can, because I soak 301 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: it all in. That's how I operate at my best, 302 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: as opposed to just focusing on one task. And maybe 303 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: he's better in that situation. And we see him playing 304 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: four or five different positions on the field come this week, 305 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: and that's just who he is. And we're finding that 306 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: out because of a necessity, as opposed to, hey, let's 307 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: plug him in right away, which a lot of people 308 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: wanted the Cardinals to do and just say, hey, this 309 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: is what you have. You have this tool, utilize it, 310 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: as opposed to saying, all right, well we're just going 311 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: to use him this way right now. Once he figures 312 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: that out, then we can increase his role. Well, I 313 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: was maintained it didn't draft him for this year, they 314 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: draft under for the next four or five years. But 315 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: you know, obviously the eighth overall pick probably one of 316 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: the top three defensive players in the draft, at least 317 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: in top ten. I just hope he can play fast 318 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 1: because he's doing a lot of thinking out there, and 319 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: and you know, speaking of Matty P. I was reading 320 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: some stuff this morning. They broke a couple other kind 321 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: of records. That was the first time under Matt Patricia 322 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: that they actually won the game at the end on 323 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: the final drive. On the final drive. That was the 324 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: first time under Matt Patricia they had multiple interceptions in 325 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 1: one game. The last time they didn't. Jim Caldwell, Well, 326 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,719 Speaker 1: that were their first three takeaways of the season. They 327 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: didn't have any in the first two weeks, and then 328 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: they picked up three on Sunday. And anytime you or 329 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: minus three in the turnover battle, I don't care how 330 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 1: good you are, you're gonna lose that ball game, probably 331 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: ninety nine out of a hundred times. So, and even 332 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: that the Cardinals were in a spot in which they 333 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: potentially could pull off the surprise and walk out of 334 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: there with their heads held hide and say, hey we 335 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 1: caught a break there. Now you're looking at a three 336 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: and oz start, and we're now talking about, hey, you know, 337 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 1: let's correct the mistakes. Three and oh everyone's feeling good, 338 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: but certainly highlighted some of the issues, if you will, 339 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: for this team coming on the wrong end of that contest. Well, 340 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 1: we talked about how they kind of tried to keep 341 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray eat Cardinal's offense because they knew they're gonna 342 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,919 Speaker 1: go with the Murray up, hurry up offense. And he 343 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 1: did admit that we got tired of the first goal 344 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: around last year. But when you look at it, you 345 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: brought up a really interesting stat last night on the 346 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: postgame show, and Cardinal fans, Bird Game fans, people outside 347 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: the state of Arizona. It's a great show. We always 348 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 1: have a form play around there. We give our analysis. 349 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,719 Speaker 1: But you brought up a number in the fourth quarter 350 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: where I think it tells a story. And let me 351 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 1: just say this before you get into it. We're only 352 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: talking about six points here. I mean the numbers you're 353 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: gonna bring up Kyler Murray versus Stafford and what the 354 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: Cardinals weren't able to do versus what the Lions were 355 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: able to do. Cardinals were outscored in that fourth quarter 356 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: by the score of six to nothing. Cardinals had two possessions, 357 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: the Lions had two possessions. Cardinals ran eight plays, the 358 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: Lions ran twenty two plays. The two quarterbacks Matthew Stafford, 359 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,719 Speaker 1: and the fourth quarter alone ten of thirteen from one 360 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 1: hundred and forty four yards. Kyla Murray one of five 361 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 1: for twelve yards and at the end, and we talked 362 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: about it, and I'll give you credit. You brought it 363 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: up late last week. Kylo to Guard brought it up 364 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: on the pregame show on Sunday. This was the first 365 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: true quarterback, True Pro Bowl, all Pro quarterbacks. Say what 366 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: you want about Stafford's record, His numbers speak for themselves. 367 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: He might not be a top ten quarterback, but he 368 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 1: is certainly better than about fifteen other quarterbacks in the league. 369 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: And he proved. He showed it on Sunday, completing seventy 370 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 1: one percent of his passes. I mean, bald didn't really 371 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: hit the ground that much. I mean again, they just 372 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 1: didn't get the pressure. And you know he threw into 373 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 1: some tight windows where Murray tried to throw in some 374 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: tight windows. And obviously, you know Kyler will go through 375 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: his interceptions because no excuses. But he did get his 376 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: arm hit there. He admitted he missed guys like Andy Isabella. 377 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: What Kyler could have had four interceptions and usually it 378 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 1: evens itself out. But yeah, that's something we haven't seen 379 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: from Murray. Now you look at the last nine quarters 380 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: over time last year. I mean he's thrown some interceptions 381 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 1: against the Lions, but obviously this was the top of 382 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: the two games they had against each other. Bird Game. 383 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: Makes sure you subscribe to Arizona Cardinals podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, 384 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 1: Google Podcast, Stitcher, and SoundCloud. Listen to your favorite shows 385 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: on the go like Cardinals Underground, The Big Red Rage, 386 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 1: The Cardinals, Read Sea Report, and of course this show 387 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two. Visit Easy Cardinals dot com Slash podcast 388 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 1: for more information. It is a Monday edition here on 389 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two, presented by Honday, proud partner of the 390 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. Let's talk about Kyler Murray, who was not 391 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray on Sunday. Maybe his worst performance as an 392 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinal. And yes it's still a small sample size. 393 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:29,200 Speaker 1: It was only his nineteenth game, but he throws three interceptions. 394 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 1: You brought it up, It should have been four. D 395 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: Ron Harmon dropped a pass that was intended for Fits 396 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,199 Speaker 1: in the third quarter, so you would have had to 397 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: back possessions end with interceptions. And it wasn't just the interceptions, 398 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: it was his decision making. All offseason we talked about 399 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 1: how much better he was at making his decisions at 400 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,400 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. I'm gonna be honest, there were 401 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: only a few of those decisions on display on Sunday. 402 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 1: Other than that, I thought it was a poor performance 403 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: from the quarterback. Yeah, there's no doubt about it. And 404 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: the fact is that, you know, I only watched the 405 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: shortcut version, so I don't know if they put a 406 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 1: spy on him. But this is two games now against them. 407 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 1: He hasn't been able to run wild. And you know, 408 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: one thing we talked about is him sitting in the 409 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: pocket and making some throws. Now he is Aaron mailing 410 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 1: a little bit, is at the size because he's trying 411 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: to get it over the defensive and the linebackers. Possibly, 412 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 1: But NFL dot Com they put out videos like six 413 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 1: minutes of each team every game, and I went and 414 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: watched three or four this morning, and I can't tell 415 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: you how many times I watched Russell Wilson, eyes down 416 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: the field, eyes down the field, rolling out, eyes down 417 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: the field. I watched Aaron Rodgers. And I know these 418 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: guys are Super Bowl winners. I know they've been in 419 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: the league long time. We're talking guys in their thirties, 420 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,360 Speaker 1: but I think he's got to have his eyes down 421 00:22:56,400 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: the field. And yesterday he was locking on receivers and 422 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: last year he got a tendency to lock on and improvise. 423 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 1: He was locking on receivers thinking his arm strength and 424 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: make those throws. And so he's got to become a 425 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: better pocket passer. Keep your eyes down the field. And 426 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,400 Speaker 1: you know, I like the fact they try to take 427 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 1: some shots, but give it with the defense is going 428 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 1: to give you. And I know that the dink and 429 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: dunk and listen. It's tough because we always talked about 430 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 1: you gotta go at ten twelve play drive. You gotta 431 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: get at least three first downs. You could get a penalty, 432 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: but I want to And I don't know if that's 433 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 1: who truly he is, because we appreciate his running style, 434 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: but if teams shut his running style down, he's gonna 435 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: have to make decisions in the pocket and he can 436 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 1: make every single throw. So that's something I thought he 437 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: would show improvement on because he claims that the game 438 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 1: is slowing down. He can recognize pre snap. But let's 439 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,959 Speaker 1: be honest, Matt Patricious background is a defensive minded guy. 440 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: He's kind of a genius just based on working for Belichick, 441 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 1: and in two games he's been able to contain him. Now, 442 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 1: the Cardinals had a chance to win everything we said here, 443 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: they lost on the last second field goal. Okay, everything 444 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 1: that we're talking about. So I mean in Matt Patricia 445 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 1: obviously learned from Belichick, and they easily try to take 446 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: your best player away every week. That's their game plan. 447 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 1: They did it to the Raiders tight end over the 448 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 1: on Sunday. So every every coordinator is different. This week's 449 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 1: going against Phil Snow. Now, Phil Snow, you're aware of him. 450 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: He's been a college coach. He's well aware of the 451 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: air raid offense. So how does that matchup comes down 452 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 1: to players? They got some injuries and Shaq Thompson some others, 453 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: so we'll see on the injury report when it comes 454 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 1: to the Panthers. But yeah, I just want to see 455 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 1: him make some more sit inside the pocket. Again, I 456 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,199 Speaker 1: don't want to take away from his running game, but 457 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: clearly they were not going to let him beat him 458 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,439 Speaker 1: with his legs yesterday. Well, he can even slide that 459 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: pocket to the left or to the right role outish, Yeah, 460 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 1: establish a new pocket and buy him some extra time. 461 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 1: That's I mean, it's not we're asking him to be 462 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 1: a stand up straight, sit there for seven seconds and 463 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: survey of the field. That's not where we're talking about. 464 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,199 Speaker 1: It's looking at your reads and figuring out what the 465 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: defense is matched up, and don't force your throws. You 466 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 1: brought that first turnover, Yeah, his arm was hit. The 467 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 1: ball was high, but it did go through Dan Arnold's 468 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: arms or through his hands for the interception. Interception number 469 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: two was just a force pass to fits and almost 470 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 1: looked like he hesitated a little bit because he did 471 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: have Keyshawn Johnson down on the sideline and wide open. 472 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: Third interception, the ball was late to Hopkins. If he 473 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: had just led him a little bit, then Hopkins makes 474 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: that catch. It needed to be out in front. And 475 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 1: it's those little things that you have to be right 476 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,120 Speaker 1: completely one hundred percent of the time, otherwise you're gonna 477 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,640 Speaker 1: have days like what we saw on Sunday. Yeah, and 478 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,120 Speaker 1: we know that. You know, Hopkins is obviously the number 479 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: one wide receiver. You got some numbers on targets and catches, 480 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: and you know I threw a stat out there yestually 481 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: before the game of how many how many catches he 482 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,679 Speaker 1: has behind the line of scrimmage, and if he can 483 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: get a guy to blockdown, he can tiptoe down the sidelines. 484 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: See you're talking about an extended run play that goes 485 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: for twelve or thirteen yards. But he isn't our more receiver. 486 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 1: And then, you know, I think tomorrow we're going to 487 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 1: get into some of the good things that we look at. 488 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 1: But you got to give is Debella credit. That was 489 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 1: a great throw and a great catch that he made. 490 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: He's shown flash and then the whole Keyshawn Johnson thing is, 491 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: to me, is very interesting. I went back and look 492 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: because that's the one thing that people are still scratching 493 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: their heads up, and I don't get it. I haven't 494 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,360 Speaker 1: gotten a good explanation for why. Because here's someone who 495 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: did not play the first two games, was on the 496 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: reserve COVID nineteen list, wasn't even on the practice field, 497 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 1: couldn't even be in the building. Yet he was targeted 498 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,880 Speaker 1: seven times, caught two passes for twenty four yards MJ 499 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: and the second half alone, he was targeted five times, 500 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: had one catch for four fourteen yards in two those 501 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 1: targets came on that final drive, including inexplicably throwing a 502 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 1: deep shot in a double coverage when you had Andy 503 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:13,719 Speaker 1: Isabella wide open underneath. Those plays can't happen. And if 504 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 1: you think I'm overreacting, while it is overreacting Monday. You 505 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 1: only have sixteen of these folks. And if you want 506 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 1: to make that jump from five wins to ten or 507 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: a playoff team, you can't lose the Detroit Lions at 508 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: home in week three. It's inexcusable. No, listen, I love 509 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: the passion because I'm with you and you know it. 510 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: Like I said, I think he's got to keep his 511 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: eyes down the field. You know, I could have mentioned Brady, 512 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: but I didn't want to do that. I just mentioned 513 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: a couple of guys that are kind of mobile. Corrett 514 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: we'll see my homes tonight and Lamar Jackson. Keep your 515 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: eyes down the field. And the fact that Larry Fitzgerald, 516 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: you know, I think they'll get that figured out. One 517 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 1: thing I want to see him do is get Larry 518 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: involved early in the game. Care if it's a bubble pass, 519 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 1: not so much for the record, that to me is 520 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: a given, and let them get you four or five 521 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 1: yard game. I know they want to come out and 522 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: run it. That's great, but I'm getting him involved early 523 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: because now all of a sudden, oh there's Fits, and 524 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 1: then you know, if Isabella and Kirk's out there, you 525 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: got Hopkins. Okay, now now we can spread around a 526 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,679 Speaker 1: little bit. But I would get Fits involved early in 527 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: the game, and I don't whether the fans are there 528 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 1: or not, even on the road, I'm getting Fits involved 529 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 1: early in the game, and then he's going to be 530 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,679 Speaker 1: a target for me in the second half. And Kyler's like, 531 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: he really didn't have an explanation, and Cliffs said, I 532 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: did a portable job. However, job. Now when we talk 533 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: about Kyler Murray nineteen games in the NFL, we got 534 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: to talk about Cliff Kingsbury nineteen games. And let's be honest, 535 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: Matt Patricia, you know, he kind of disguises things a 536 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: little bit different. And I thought they had the upper 537 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: hand in the last two years, even though the Cardinals 538 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: tied them. It's a different week, different matchup, different you know, 539 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: players in personnel. But it's came very also, I mean 540 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: to me play calling more for the fans. Um they 541 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: I get it. When should he go for fourth down? 542 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 1: But we always we always dictate our opinion based on 543 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 1: the results. Yes, so play calling to me is so misleading. 544 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 1: We talk about it, and Bill Walsh his mantra was, Craig, 545 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: if we don't have e loving guys executing, the play 546 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:30,239 Speaker 1: calling means nothing nothing. So for the fans, may they say, oh, 547 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: they're gonna run the ball here and they pass, Oh 548 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: what are they doing? It's execution and sometimes it's could 549 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 1: be ten guys versus eleven. So but Cliff, Cliff, I 550 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: mean he's admitting that, you know, some of the things 551 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: we heard last year that you know, they you know, 552 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: And somebody asked him today, why didn't chase him and 553 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 1: start the game. Well, that's based on script I mean 554 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: it's one play. I mean clearly they want to get 555 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: him Drake involved, but that scripted plays. Now, scripted plays 556 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: are not on third down, so when you get the 557 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: third down, you have another call sheet. But I think Cliff, 558 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: I think he understands that, you know, I got to 559 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:07,719 Speaker 1: get this off and rhythm early and again they were 560 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 1: sitting on the sidelines. I watched Kyler Murray numerous times 561 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: in that game, and he probably does it a lot, 562 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: but it was a home game when we had, you know, 563 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: good opportunities. He's throwing the ball on the sidelines that 564 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: Jared Commercial breaks, so he's getting ready to go on 565 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: the field and he was getting I mean, they were 566 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: a little ansty. Now. One other things that I was 567 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: amazed at, and the Cardinals had seven hundred closer to 568 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: seven hundred and fifty fans, family friends, players, executives. Craig 569 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: I heard the Lions defense. Well, we're sitting in the 570 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: press box. We had the windows open, where normally where 571 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 1: you sit it's closed. I can hear the Lions defense 572 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 1: when they were making plays and the energy from that sidelines. 573 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: I can't say I heard that from the Cardinal sidelines 574 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: during the game. Well, it goes back to your point 575 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: about getting number eleven involved, and I don't get too 576 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: focused on targets when it comes to Larry Fitzgerald. He's 577 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: no longer the number one wide receiver. But when you 578 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: do need a play and you do need to get 579 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: the offense going or a big third down or a 580 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: big fourth down, you're looking at Hopkins. You're looking at 581 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald because with or without fans, if number eleven 582 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: makes a crucial catch, he's gonna get up. He might 583 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: spike the football, he might flex and all of a sudden, 584 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 1: that energy that he is exuding is fed off by 585 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: everyone else. Now when you have fans in the stands, 586 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: then you get the Larry Larry chant and then it 587 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: just kind of uplifts everyone in the building. That is 588 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 1: what did not happen on Sunday, and I think needed 589 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: to happen because too many of those drives. It was 590 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 1: stop start, stop start, and Kingsbury we hear a lot 591 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: the rhythm couldn't get into a rhythm offensively, and that's 592 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: play calling and that's just moving the chains. So that 593 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 1: is when Fitz needs to be targeted. You talked about 594 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: it early in the game early and drives just get 595 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: things moving along a little bit. That's what he is doing. 596 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: That's what he's become at this point in his career. Yeah, 597 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: and you know, since we're talking about the game, you know, 598 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 1: I'm guilty of it. I pumped up Dan Arnold and 599 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: he's had two major penalties in the last two games 600 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 1: and it's costs his team. I mean, you know, and 601 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 1: you know they bring in Chris Traveler and then that's 602 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: no play. But yeah, Dan, I think they missed Max Williams. 603 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: I really do. In the run game, Craig. I think 604 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: Daniels has been a pleasant surprise. They're throwing the ball 605 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: to him. I like him on special team to like 606 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: his size. But Max Williams was their meeting potatoes guy. 607 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 1: And if they want to run eleven personnel, three wide, 608 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: one tight, one back, they don't have Max Williams. Now, 609 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that. You know he's a difference maker, 610 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 1: but I just think they missed him on offense. And 611 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 1: he was reliable and catching the ball, but he was 612 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: out there to block. And you know, I thought Justin 613 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: Pugh played a really good game yesterday. I thought, listen 614 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 1: to broadcast with you, I thought Lamont Gilliard. According to Wolf, 615 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 1: he was getting pushed around a little bit. Again, that's 616 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: his second start. So but again, when we mentioned Kyler 617 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 1: nineteen games, we also had to mention Kingsbury nineteen games 618 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 1: and Matt Patricia has been in the league for a 619 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 1: long long time. You bring up Max Williams, and it's 620 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 1: a point that it's not going to show up on 621 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 1: the stat sheet when he is playing, because he's more 622 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 1: in there to help block and open up holes. I'll 623 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 1: say this. Watching the game back, it seemed like the 624 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: Cardinals had more success running the football when it was 625 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: pitches or it was Drake to the outside versus straight 626 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: ahead moving. There were very few opening lanes when you 627 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 1: would go straight between the tackles it was and when 628 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 1: there was a little bit more emotion. Yeah, yeah, and 629 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 1: just a little bit more to get those livebackers eyes 630 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 1: going in different directions, to kind of get them going 631 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: one way and then change direction you at the same time, 632 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 1: Drake seventy three yards rushing just over four yards a pop. 633 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 1: That's great, I mean, it's it's it's not what we've 634 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 1: come to expect or anticipated for Kenyan Drake here with 635 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 1: a full season or off season now going into his 636 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 1: U I guess year two. You only played eight games 637 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 1: year so and then the four fact that you could 638 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 1: supposed to leave run against this Lions defense. They were 639 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,800 Speaker 1: the worst in the league. They're two games, but sometimes 640 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 1: those stats even getting misleading after just a couple of 641 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: games in the course of a season. Well, you look 642 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 1: at the Packers game. I mean, Aaron Jones was unbelievable 643 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 1: in that second half, and they had a lead in 644 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,839 Speaker 1: that game, and we talked about swift and running back 645 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 1: dropped the touchdown pass, so they could have been one 646 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,280 Speaker 1: on one, but on paper and when you fall behind 647 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 1: and you got a lead like they did, they were 648 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: given up on an average two hundred and four yards 649 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,240 Speaker 1: a game in the first two weeks. Now again probably 650 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,760 Speaker 1: misleading when teams have the lead and they're just pounding 651 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 1: the football. Listen, when you mentioned Drake's four point zero, 652 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,399 Speaker 1: that's good. I mean you don't want to be at three, three, three, 653 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 1: five because you pointed out if he's getting you four 654 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 1: yards a pop, now you're a third and two. I 655 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 1: just want to see some more, more longer runs, explosive plays, 656 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 1: explosive plays and that could be twenty yards. I'm talking 657 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 1: about seven to nine to eleven m. It's great he's 658 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 1: getting the grunt yards um usually falls down forward. He 659 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: doesn't get tackle for losses UM. But I just want 660 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,399 Speaker 1: to see a little bit more and maybe last year 661 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 1: he was he came in on fresh lakes. Now he's 662 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 1: gonna he's gonna know what it's like to be the 663 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 1: bell count on offense and now your body takes a toll. 664 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,799 Speaker 1: And but I think he's up for the challenge. He 665 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 1: knows that he's in a contract year and if this 666 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: team's gonna win, They're gonna have to run the football 667 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 1: third game. Make sure you update to the latest version 668 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 1: of the Cardinals mobile app today. The update features an 669 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 1: all nude redesign home screen experience. Visit asy cardinals dot 670 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:49,320 Speaker 1: com slash app for more. Certainly, this offense we expect 671 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: a whole lot more from in year two. We haven't 672 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,799 Speaker 1: seen it. We've seen it in spurts, but just not 673 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 1: consistent from one quarter to the second, to the third, 674 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 1: to the fourth and so on. I'll say this, Am 675 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,880 Speaker 1: I worried? Am I concerned? I sound like I'm concerned? 676 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 1: But this was one game against a team you should 677 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 1: have beat. Everyone has a bad day. Kyle the Murray 678 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,879 Speaker 1: is going to have more great games than he's going 679 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 1: to have bad games. But to think he can go 680 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 1: an entire sixteen game season without a dud, if you will, 681 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,320 Speaker 1: is impossible. Every quarterback goes through it, even the best ones. 682 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 1: Yet this is what we're talking about here today, m J. 683 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 1: This is what have you done for me lately. What's 684 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:35,759 Speaker 1: the last impression that we've gotten from the quarterback? Not good? Now? 685 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 1: He could come out on Sunday throw for three hundred 686 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,759 Speaker 1: yards four touchdowns in this offense might click and it 687 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 1: will come back a week later and say, wow, that 688 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:48,720 Speaker 1: was nice. So I wouldn't be concerned. It's just this happens. 689 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,880 Speaker 1: It's unfortunate that it's happening against a team that you 690 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,800 Speaker 1: should have beaten. It's one thing. If it happens against 691 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 1: the Cowboys in Dallas or against the Seahawks or the Rams, 692 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 1: then it's like, Okay, well, you know what, they were 693 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,720 Speaker 1: the better team on Sunday. The Lions were the better team. 694 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 1: But overall they're not a better team than the Cardinals. 695 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 1: They were for sixty minutes in Week three, but I'm 696 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 1: sorry this year in twenty twenty, the Lions are not 697 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 1: better than the Cardinals. Yeah, and you know, as we do, 698 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 1: we look at the opposing matchup and they don't play 699 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 1: against each other. But Teddy Bridgewater, he was very efficient. 700 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 1: They're not an explosive offense, they don't have Christian McCaffrey. 701 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 1: They're just doing it at playing hard for a first 702 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 1: time head coach. And then the next game is Sam 703 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 1: Darnel and I would take Murray over those guys. I 704 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 1: know that they don't play against each other, but that's 705 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 1: what we're looking at. Dak Prescott, maybe roll the dice. 706 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:47,720 Speaker 1: It's a road game, but yesterday Stafford was the better quarterback, 707 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,760 Speaker 1: and going into the game with the skill position players 708 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,920 Speaker 1: and the fact that they want to keep the Cardinals 709 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,839 Speaker 1: offense off the field. Now, I'm not worried about Kyler 710 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 1: Murray because he stood there and said, if I don't 711 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 1: throw three interceptions, we win this game, which is it's true. 712 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 1: I am worried about the safety position though, just on paper. Now, 713 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 1: if isaiahs Skims makes the transition or they decided to 714 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 1: go out and get someone again, you're talking about something 715 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,359 Speaker 1: has to learn their system. I hope Deontay Thompson can 716 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 1: play better. I'm hoping that we get good news on banjo, 717 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,840 Speaker 1: but worried they're gonna have to They're gonna have to 718 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 1: moose some furniture around. So when I say worried, it's 719 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 1: just it's Monday. I'll get better as the week goes on, 720 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 1: just bas what I see. And then obviously the matchup 721 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:37,400 Speaker 1: where you know, again you got to bring your a 722 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,719 Speaker 1: game regardless of here playing. But sometimes the matchup can 723 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 1: do give Van shows to some other options. What's he 724 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 1: want to do defensively against Bridgewater and I know the 725 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 1: defense has taken its share of hits here the last 726 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:53,320 Speaker 1: twenty four hours, and rightfully so. Yet at the same time, 727 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:57,279 Speaker 1: this defense does not need to be top five top ten. 728 00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,800 Speaker 1: In order for this team to be successful, you needed 729 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,319 Speaker 1: your offense to be top five top ten. That's where 730 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 1: the strength is. Barrows, where the backbone, if you will, 731 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,600 Speaker 1: of this team with Kingsbury and Kyle the Murray. This 732 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 1: offense needs to pick things up. The defense needs to 733 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,759 Speaker 1: shore some things. But I'm sorry. The Lions were just 734 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,280 Speaker 1: four of twelve on third down, just two of six 735 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,360 Speaker 1: and the red zone, and three of their six scoring 736 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 1: drives began deep in Arizona territory. The twenty seven, the 737 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 1: twenty two, and the thirty six. The Lions had two 738 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 1: field goals and a touchdown out of those three drives. 739 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 1: So to me, that's a win for a defense that 740 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 1: was put on as heels for much of the ball game. Well, 741 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,960 Speaker 1: and then you want to talk about special teams, you 742 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 1: know one, I mean they all count up, and then 743 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,280 Speaker 1: you know, when it came to the returning coverage units, 744 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,440 Speaker 1: the average field position for the Lions was a thirty 745 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,399 Speaker 1: six yard lane. They had three hundred and sixty four 746 00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 1: return yards through kickoff return, punt return, et cetera. Cardinals, 747 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 1: their average field position was the nineteen yard line one 748 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,759 Speaker 1: hundred and ninety four yards and they gave up a 749 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,799 Speaker 1: long was it a punt return or a kickoff return 750 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 1: right to the forty I think it might have been 751 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 1: a punt return, punt return, Okay, Yeah, so they give 752 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 1: up a long punt return, so they got to tighten 753 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 1: up there. They didn't play well in all three facets. No, 754 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:31,399 Speaker 1: that's not consistency. Consistent enough. You can overcome one turn over, 755 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 1: two turnovers. But and you pointed it out and well 756 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 1: said last, I want to say, oh, those three turnovers 757 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:43,399 Speaker 1: a leather ten points correct, and it could have been 758 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 1: that's a difference in the game. It could have been 759 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 1: a heck of a lot more too. But you're right, 760 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 1: you turn the ball over, you're gonna you're gonna lose. 761 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:55,160 Speaker 1: And I applied Kyle the murray for saying it's on me, 762 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,919 Speaker 1: because he's right, it is on him and he needs 763 00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 1: to do a better job for this team to win. 764 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,799 Speaker 1: I mean, you're gonna get the praise when things go right, 765 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 1: and you can get the criticism and things go wrong. 766 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 1: That's the quarterback position. I don't think that loss is 767 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 1: going to derail their season. It's a young season. You 768 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,799 Speaker 1: know how I feel about losing and winning streaks. It's 769 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:18,319 Speaker 1: tough to win three in a row in the NFL 770 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 1: because at some point, yes, you have to go on 771 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,319 Speaker 1: the road. They did that in a Week one. They're 772 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,239 Speaker 1: fortunate enough to have games two and three at home. 773 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 1: You gotta have always losing streaks. And the Panthers, they 774 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,480 Speaker 1: won the game. I don't think they're gonna start feeling 775 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,480 Speaker 1: good about themselves because they've still got to deal with 776 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 1: the Saints, the Buccaneers, and who knows that the Falcons 777 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,720 Speaker 1: are doing. And then you know, you got the Jets 778 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,399 Speaker 1: and we don't want to look ahead. But you got 779 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,680 Speaker 1: to avoid losing streaks in the NFL. We know that 780 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,600 Speaker 1: last year the Cardinals went on a winning streak, three 781 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:49,719 Speaker 1: game winning streaks starting in Cincinnati. We know that they 782 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 1: had a losing streak at some point. They had a 783 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:56,240 Speaker 1: long losing streak with Wilkes. You've got to avoid losing streaks. 784 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 1: And the way the league is set up, you don't 785 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 1: see teams. I mean of the Baltimore Ravens and then 786 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:02,799 Speaker 1: they won eleven in a row last year and they 787 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,959 Speaker 1: finished fourteen two. But it's hard to win three games 788 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:07,759 Speaker 1: because eventually you got to go on the road. Now, 789 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,560 Speaker 1: these next three games, where are the Cardinals playing on 790 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 1: the road. So and if you tell me after the 791 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 1: first five games they're four and one, I would just said, 792 00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:22,000 Speaker 1: sign me up, sign me up, because I hope this 793 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,279 Speaker 1: is the one game we look at and go when 794 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 1: we look at this at the end of the year, 795 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 1: tally up wins. Now, granted they won a conference game, 796 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 1: a division game, and two conference games, this would have 797 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 1: been another conference win. But you're a nine win team. 798 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 1: They're ten win teams. So again, I don't think it's 799 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,400 Speaker 1: going to derail them like maybe losing to New England 800 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,279 Speaker 1: in Week one last year or a couple of years 801 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,279 Speaker 1: ago and it kind of derailed the season because they 802 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,920 Speaker 1: didn't have their top players. I think they got enough 803 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,320 Speaker 1: leadership in that locker room to where, you know, stop 804 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,920 Speaker 1: the bleeding, so to speak, but avoid losing streaks in 805 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:56,359 Speaker 1: the National Football League, And that will hopefully happen this 806 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,920 Speaker 1: week when the Cardinals head to Carolina to play the Panthers. 807 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,080 Speaker 1: And we'll touch on the Panthers more as the week 808 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:06,759 Speaker 1: progresses here as we get ready for Week four of 809 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:10,239 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty NFL regular season, And on that note, 810 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,359 Speaker 1: we put a lid on this edition of Cardinals Cover two, 811 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:17,520 Speaker 1: presented by Hyunday, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals Special 812 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 1: Thanks as always to our executive producer Jim Amahundro. 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