WEBVTT - Sometimes The Popcorn Doesn’t Pop with Briana Scurry 0:00:00.840 --> 0:00:03.080 Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where the Price 0:00:03.080 --> 0:00:05.560 of Eggs has us paint and potatoes for the Easter 0:00:05.680 --> 0:00:10.160 hunt this weekend. The prices are too damn high. It's Friday, 0:00:10.240 --> 0:00:13.360 April eighteenth, Happy Friday, Slices. On today's show, we'll be 0:00:13.440 --> 0:00:16.200 chatting with US women's national team legend and two time 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:19.279 Olympic gold medalist Briana Scurry about the battle for the 0:00:19.320 --> 0:00:22.240 new number one keeper on the national team. Briana breaks 0:00:22.239 --> 0:00:24.440 down the player's head coach Emma Hayes has to choose 0:00:24.440 --> 0:00:27.400 from talks about what separates the greats from the goods, 0:00:27.760 --> 0:00:30.320 teaches me a thing or two about possession and shares 0:00:30.360 --> 0:00:33.000 the financial literacy lessons she's passing on to the next 0:00:33.040 --> 0:00:36.280 generation of footy phenoms. Plus, it's almost time to crown 0:00:36.360 --> 0:00:39.000 some champs on the mat. The PWHL draft is headed 0:00:39.040 --> 0:00:41.960 north of the border. And always remember, no matter where, 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:44.959 no matter when, Shelley and Fraser Price will will pure 0:00:45.000 --> 0:00:47.480 ass in a race that's all coming up right after 0:00:47.520 --> 0:01:01.320 this Welcome Backslices. Here's what you need to know today 0:01:03.840 --> 0:01:06.520 in gymnastics News. On yesterday show, we got you ready 0:01:06.520 --> 0:01:10.200 for the National Collegiate Women's Championship semi finals with Trinity Thomas. 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:12.280 But if you miss those last night, be sure you 0:01:12.319 --> 0:01:16.200 tune into the National Championship tomorrow four on the floor, 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:18.320 as they call it, the final team competition, where the 0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:20.960 four top teams compete for the national title. You can 0:01:21.000 --> 0:01:24.000 catch the competition starting at four pm Eastern on ABC. 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:26.440 And if you need a refresher on who to look 0:01:26.480 --> 0:01:29.160 out for and how to be a smarter viewer, go 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:31.319 back and listen to that interview with Trinity. We'll link 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:34.400 to it in our show notes. In NWSL news, Angel 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:38.399 City FC has found its new head coach Bayern Munich. 0:01:38.520 --> 0:01:41.959 Alexander Strauss will depart Germany to join the undefeated LA 0:01:42.120 --> 0:01:45.160 side on June first. His hiring completes a search that 0:01:45.200 --> 0:01:48.480 began when the franchise fired previous coach Becky Tweed in December. 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:52.040 Strauss's run with Byron has been stellar after getting the 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:54.200 job there in twenty twenty two. His squads have won 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:57.800 back to back frown Bundesliga titles and they're currently in good. 0:01:57.600 --> 0:01:58.840 Shape to earn a third. 0:01:59.160 --> 0:02:01.640 He'll take over an ACFC team sitting at fourth in 0:02:01.680 --> 0:02:06.120 the NWSL standings. Speaking of the NWSL, there's a whole 0:02:06.160 --> 0:02:08.919 lot of league action to look forward to tonight and tomorrow, 0:02:08.960 --> 0:02:11.639 with seven games in total. Tonight kicks off with the 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:14.920 Chicago Stars at Utah Royals at nine thirty pm Eastern 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:18.520 on NWSL Plus, then the Portland Thorns at Seattle Rain 0:02:18.639 --> 0:02:21.400 at ten pm Eastern on Prime Video, followed by a 0:02:21.440 --> 0:02:25.200 Top five battle between Gotham FC and Angel CITYFC. That's 0:02:25.240 --> 0:02:28.480 ten thirty Eastern back on NWSL Plus. Then on Saturday 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:30.680 there are four more games starting at two pm. We'll 0:02:30.680 --> 0:02:33.040 link to the full NWSL schedule in our show notes 0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:37.800 more pro soccer. The Northern Super League's first game was 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:41.560 storybook stuff you remember. Earlier this week, Canadian soccer legend 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:44.480 Christine Sinclair was on the show gushing over her former 0:02:44.600 --> 0:02:48.640 NWSL opponent and Team Canada teammate Quinn about them joining 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:50.480 the NFL and their potential to be the face of 0:02:50.480 --> 0:02:53.519 the league. Well, Quinn lived up to the hype, scoring 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:56.720 the first goal in NFL history via a penalty kick 0:02:56.919 --> 0:02:59.680 in the twenty first minute on Wednesday night at BC Place. 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:02.480 That score proved to be the difference as their Vancouver 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:05.480 Rise FC side took a one nil victory over Calgary 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:08.760 wild FC just feels right to have a Canadian legend 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:11.079 go down in the record books with the first ever tally. 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:15.600 The NFL continues its inaugural weekend tomorrow as AFC Toronto 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:18.880 takes on Montreal Ross FC at four pm Eastern. 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:21.480 You could stream that on ESPN Plus. 0:03:21.720 --> 0:03:25.240 In International Hockey News, Team USA cruised past Germany three 0:03:25.320 --> 0:03:27.840 not then yesterday to punch a ticket to the semifinals 0:03:28.000 --> 0:03:31.680 of the Women's World Championship. Kelly Panic, Lacey Eden, and 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:33.800 Alex Carpenter each put one in the back of the 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:36.200 net for the Stars and Stripes in the victory. Hillary 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:40.000 Knight assisted on Carpenter's score, raising her World Championship record 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:44.000 assist tally to fifty one. The semi finals are tomorrow. 0:03:44.120 --> 0:03:46.000 As of this recording, we don't yet know the game 0:03:46.040 --> 0:03:47.760 the US will be playing in, so we'll link to 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:49.960 the full schedule in the show notes. That game will 0:03:49.960 --> 0:03:53.520 be on NHL Network. In Pro Hockey News, the PWHL 0:03:53.640 --> 0:03:56.640 Draft is headed to Ottawa. The league made the announcement 0:03:56.680 --> 0:03:59.600 earlier this week, bringing the festivities back to Canada, where 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:01.840 the inaugur ol draft took place in twenty twenty three. 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:03.560 The draft will be at the city soon to be 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:06.840 opened hard Rock Hotel on June twenty fourth, and players 0:04:06.840 --> 0:04:10.000 have until May eighth to declare and become eligible for selection. 0:04:10.480 --> 0:04:13.800 You might remember us mentioning the PWHL's Gold Plan their 0:04:13.840 --> 0:04:15.000 effort to deter tanking. 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:17.640 Here's a refresher. So the draft order has. 0:04:17.520 --> 0:04:20.200 Decided based on how many points a team earns after 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:23.520 being mathematically eliminated from the postseason. 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My conversation with US 0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:16.600 women's national team legend Brianna Scurry, and uh, one. 0:07:16.400 --> 0:07:17.560 Thing before we jump in. 0:07:18.400 --> 0:07:21.239 So early on in the interview with Brianna, I admit 0:07:21.280 --> 0:07:23.680 to a shortcoming. I admit that I just realized she 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:26.080 only has one en in her name, not two, and 0:07:26.120 --> 0:07:28.600 I've been spelling it wrong all this time. But then 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:30.760 I start patting myself on the back for at least 0:07:30.840 --> 0:07:34.000 saying her name right, if not spelling it right. You know, 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:37.040 she's always called Brianna Scurry, and I know that's not right. 0:07:37.520 --> 0:07:41.320 But the problem is, guys, apparently the version I was 0:07:41.440 --> 0:07:46.000 using for most of the interview Brianna Scurry also is 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:50.520 not right. So I said, right too, Brianna, at least 0:07:50.520 --> 0:07:52.320 I'm saying your name right, and like, I get points 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:55.840 for that, and then proceed to say Brianna the whole 0:07:56.080 --> 0:07:58.960 damn interview. And you know what, I tried to at 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:00.640 least come up with an excuse. It's like, oh, maybe 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:04.320 it's like Chicago is coming out, but that's not it, 0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:07.600 I just lock it up. And the thing is, she 0:08:07.640 --> 0:08:09.640 doesn't even correct me, and I feel like it must 0:08:09.680 --> 0:08:11.880 be at this point, She's like, listen, I'm too tired 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:13.360 of this like to even correct you anymore. 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:14.800 I'm too tired to correct people anymore. 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:17.280 I'm just gonna let you take false credit for getting 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:19.440 it right like a chump and not even say anything. 0:08:19.880 --> 0:08:20.480 So I don't know. 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:22.760 I guess my point is stay humble, y'all, because the 0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:26.480 learning never stops even while you're midway through congratulating yourself. 0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:32.000 So sorry, Briana, I got it now, Bryanna scurry, I 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:32.400 got it. 0:08:32.600 --> 0:08:34.440 I promise all right. 0:08:34.520 --> 0:08:38.679 That interview with Briana is next back in a second 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:52.480 joining US now one of the greatest goalkeepers of all time. 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:55.040 A two time Olympic gold medalist and World Cup champion, 0:08:55.040 --> 0:08:56.960 she played for the US women's national team from nineteen 0:08:57.040 --> 0:08:59.200 ninety four to two thousand and eight, competing in four 0:08:59.240 --> 0:09:02.080 World Cups and three Olympics, including starting and playing in 0:09:02.200 --> 0:09:04.400 every minute of the team's five matches of their gold 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:06.720 medal winning run at the ninety six Olympic Games and 0:09:06.760 --> 0:09:09.960 playing every minute of their triumphant ninety nine World Cup run. 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:12.560 Her career total of one hundred and seventy three international 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:15.400 appearances is the second most among female soccer goalkeepers and 0:09:15.440 --> 0:09:18.640 the fifteenth most of any American female player. She was 0:09:18.640 --> 0:09:21.199 a founding player for the Atlanta Beat of the WUSA, 0:09:21.320 --> 0:09:23.079 was elected to the National Soccer Hall of Fame in 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:26.240 twenty seventeen, and wrote a memoir, My Greatest Save. She's 0:09:26.280 --> 0:09:28.920 been a coach, gm owner, and analyst. And she appeared 0:09:28.920 --> 0:09:34.040 as herself an air Bud World. Pop It's Brianna Scurry, Hi, Brianna. 0:09:34.120 --> 0:09:35.199 Hello, how are you? 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:37.880 That's that was one of the most fantastic intros I've 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:38.840 heard in a long time. 0:09:39.160 --> 0:09:40.880 Great, I need to watch I need to watch Air 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:41.400 Bud World. 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:42.560 You totally need to watch. 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:44.240 That's how the young is that The only way the 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:46.160 little kids know about me is if they saw me 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:47.480 the air Bud movie. 0:09:48.320 --> 0:09:49.439 Well, thanks for joining us. 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:51.959 I last saw you, No Big Deal at the Vice 0:09:52.000 --> 0:09:53.760 President's house in Washington, d C. 0:09:54.280 --> 0:09:56.640 Oh, Yes, okay, just no, biggie. 0:09:56.679 --> 0:09:59.080 You were signing your name to the guestbook with your number, 0:09:59.320 --> 0:10:01.200 and other people like, oh, should I write my number? 0:10:01.240 --> 0:10:04.360 I'm like, only if you're Briana Scurry, Like, what do 0:10:04.360 --> 0:10:05.880 you mean? You're junior high number. 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:06.160 No, I. 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:09.640 I love it. 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:12.320 I have to ask the most important question first, What 0:10:12.360 --> 0:10:15.400 happens more often your name is misspelled or mispronounced? 0:10:15.760 --> 0:10:18.960 Mispronounced almost every single time? 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:20.800 Yeah, yeah, it's okay. 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:24.400 Yeah, I have to admit I've been misspelling it for 0:10:24.480 --> 0:10:27.120 most of the time. I thought there were two ends, 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:28.400 but I've been saying it right. 0:10:28.480 --> 0:10:29.800 So I do get points for that. 0:10:30.000 --> 0:10:31.400 But you can take points for that. 0:10:31.679 --> 0:10:34.480 I take one end. Where have I been? At least 0:10:34.520 --> 0:10:35.400 I've been saying it right. 0:10:36.679 --> 0:10:38.560 Okay, So it's it's a great time to have you 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:40.320 on to talk about the US women's national team. They 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:43.040 are currently looking for their next Briana Scurry. Not that 0:10:43.080 --> 0:10:46.040 that's easy to find, but they are looking, and after 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:48.840 passing of the baton from you to Hope Solo to 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:50.480 a Lissa they air the team is really on the 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:53.600 hunt for a keeper and without a true number one, 0:10:53.720 --> 0:10:55.640 clear number one for the first time in a really 0:10:55.679 --> 0:10:57.120 long time. So I want to talk about some of 0:10:57.160 --> 0:10:59.520 the players in the mix and what Emma Hayes is 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:02.120 looking for. But I want you to educate us a 0:11:02.160 --> 0:11:04.800 little first. I think the average soccer player is pretty 0:11:04.800 --> 0:11:09.400 adept at watching shot stopping. We can understand a great save, 0:11:09.520 --> 0:11:12.000 we can understand a mist save that probably. 0:11:11.640 --> 0:11:14.320 Should have been made. What else should we be watching 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:16.520 for with these keepers to help us sort of understand 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:18.839 their role in the larger style and strategy of a 0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:20.440 team and whether they're great or not. 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:23.240 I think one of the nuances you need to watch 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:26.320 for is something that most people don't even think about, 0:11:26.360 --> 0:11:29.400 and that's communication with their back line, in particular the 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:33.880 central defenders. So Tmusa often plays with the four back 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:37.280 and so the two central defenders are really vital to 0:11:37.440 --> 0:11:41.960 defending because if the goalkeeper is not communicating with them 0:11:42.200 --> 0:11:46.240 vocally and directly, and you know that they're understanding her, 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:50.719 then weird stuff happens. I mean, the untrained eye may 0:11:50.760 --> 0:11:53.080 not be able to tell if it was a communication 0:11:53.320 --> 0:11:56.800 error that caused something, but I can. So what I 0:11:56.840 --> 0:11:59.760 would say is one of the most important things other 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:03.319 than the shot stopping, obviously is important, is a communication 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:07.920 because what ends up happening is if you have bad communication, 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:11.440 you end up with way more shots, right, which is 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:11.880 not good? 0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:15.800 Yeah, yeah, fewer shots, fewer goals usually not always. 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:16.720 Yes. 0:12:17.320 --> 0:12:20.240 There's a great story from ESPN's Jeff Kasoof, writing about 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:22.560 the battle for this keeper position, and in it he 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:25.320 says that Emma Hayes has said on many occasions she 0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:28.320 expects their keeper to be comfortable on the ball to 0:12:28.360 --> 0:12:31.479 help the Usman's national team possess in deeper spaces. 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:33.600 Can you explain what that means? 0:12:35.760 --> 0:12:38.360 Yes, So, when you have possession of the ball in 0:12:38.440 --> 0:12:41.640 your defensive end or on a free kick such as 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:44.880 a goalkick, Emma wants the goalkeeper to be able to 0:12:44.880 --> 0:12:48.920 be part of that possession triangle or that possession stance. 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:52.440 Not just a goalkeeper that kicks the ball forward and 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:55.640 out of the danger zone. She wants the goalkeeper to 0:12:55.679 --> 0:12:58.280 be positioned well so that she can get the ball 0:12:58.320 --> 0:13:00.560 at her feet and redistribute as well. So if you 0:13:00.640 --> 0:13:03.280 have the goalkeeper that can do that well, then you 0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:04.840 always have numbers up in the back. 0:13:05.520 --> 0:13:05.920 Got it. 0:13:05.960 --> 0:13:08.880 So on the ball means playing on the ball like 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:12.560 a field player, yes, picking it up and kicking or not. 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:17.360 Redistributing that position, yes, yes, to receive the ball and 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:19.800 to get us get the team out of danger if 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:21.680 there's pressure on one side or the other. 0:13:22.280 --> 0:13:24.600 I mean, that's certainly something we notice, is which teams 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:26.600 are able to go back and forth to their keeper 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:29.160 and really incorporate it to reset a play versus when 0:13:29.200 --> 0:13:32.680 it feels like it's the last resort. And there's certainly 0:13:32.760 --> 0:13:35.360 some very when you're younger in soccer, they're like, never 0:13:35.520 --> 0:13:37.360 kick it toward your own goal, and when you get 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:39.840 older you have to actually use that to help set 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:42.920 things up. Okay, So Jane Campbell is one of the 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:46.079 only two players vuying for the job who has major 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:48.320 tournament experience, but it's not much. She was an alternate 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:51.000 a last year's Olympics. She plays for the Houston Dash, 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:54.000 which is attempting to build an identity as a possession 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:55.000 oriented team. 0:13:55.440 --> 0:13:56.080 How does that. 0:13:56.080 --> 0:13:58.400 Style fit with what you just told us with Hayes 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:00.280 wanting a keeper who can be a part of that 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:01.480 and be on the ball. 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:04.920 Well, for Campbell, it's a great advantage. I mean, she's 0:14:05.000 --> 0:14:07.439 going to be working on that daily with her team 0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:10.880 and so she'll have a better understanding. Not only that, 0:14:11.000 --> 0:14:13.319 but she'll also have a lot more confidence in being 0:14:13.400 --> 0:14:16.439 able to command that presence that you need to have 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:19.080 in the back as a as a goalkeeper who can 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:22.680 use her feet incredibly well. I've always liked Jane Campbell. 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:27.200 She's fantastic, But what I fear is the fact that 0:14:27.240 --> 0:14:30.160 she does have to make so many saves in a game. 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:33.440 It is truly a mountain of saves that she has 0:14:33.480 --> 0:14:36.680 to make. I don't know if that's from a lack 0:14:36.680 --> 0:14:40.280 of quality from her club team, her defense, or if 0:14:40.280 --> 0:14:44.040 it's a lack of communication on her part to her backs. 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:46.400 Like I said earlier, like she has a lot of 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:50.120 emergency situations on her team, and that's usually not a 0:14:50.160 --> 0:14:53.360 good thing. And unfortunately the Dash, you know, they struggle 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:57.000 a little bit throughout the seasons. But she has a 0:14:57.040 --> 0:15:00.840 great advantage on a team that won't strug, which is 0:15:00.920 --> 0:15:04.880 the national team, to be able to be comfortable on 0:15:04.960 --> 0:15:05.320 the ball. 0:15:06.080 --> 0:15:09.880 Yeah, so when it's a possession oriented team, they want 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:12.560 to control and be tactical in their approach, but often 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:15.640 push up toward the opposing team's goal. That's different in 0:15:15.680 --> 0:15:17.720 the sense of teams that maybe are trying to rely 0:15:17.840 --> 0:15:20.240 more on one or two players that are just really 0:15:20.320 --> 0:15:23.520 fast or really skilled, where then they're not worrying as much, 0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:25.600 or they're not maybe able to depend on their whole 0:15:25.600 --> 0:15:26.600 team to set things up. 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:28.040 They have to take more chances. 0:15:28.200 --> 0:15:30.280 That's kind of the difference between a possion oriented team 0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:31.080 and another team. 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:33.600 Yes, that is definitely the difference between the two. 0:15:33.760 --> 0:15:36.160 Also, in the course of a game, if you're a 0:15:36.160 --> 0:15:39.600 possession oriented team, you're letting the ball do the work 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:42.600 as opposed to your individual players doing the work. 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:43.880 And what you're also doing is. 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:48.120 You're moving that opposing team, that opponent around the pitch 0:15:48.240 --> 0:15:51.240 at will. You're shifting them from one side to the other, 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:55.920 which then opens up that potential for that fourward two 0:15:55.960 --> 0:15:59.400 streak through there somehow, you know, make a diving run 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:02.160 or a slice run through the back. And so if 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:04.520 you're a team that can say, you know, have a 0:16:04.560 --> 0:16:08.240 slower tempo and then spring the attack, which is what 0:16:08.320 --> 0:16:11.480 that's called, you you can do that more easily as 0:16:11.520 --> 0:16:14.000 a team that possesses the ball versus a team who 0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:17.160 has just a lot of raw talent and it's expecting 0:16:17.200 --> 0:16:21.000 there forwards to truly make make something happen. Over the 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:25.240 course of a game, the possession orientation team will most 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:26.080 likely win and do. 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:29.320 Better right because they're tiring out the opponent who's running around, 0:16:29.440 --> 0:16:33.560 whereas their tactical and pinpointed passes are moving the ball 0:16:33.640 --> 0:16:36.320 up without them having to be the ones making those runs. 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:38.640 Let's talk about some of the other keepers in the mix. 0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:42.400 So besides Campbell, there's Utah's Mandy McGlenn, Manchester United's Fallin 0:16:42.440 --> 0:16:45.480 Tellus Joyce, North Carolina's Casey Murphy, and then Angel Cities 0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:49.080 Angelina Anderson. Murphy is the only other player besides Campbell 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:51.640 with major tournament experience. She has the most twenty eight 0:16:51.680 --> 0:16:54.120 years old, She's got twenty caps. She was the backup 0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:56.320 keeper for last year's Olympics and the twenty twenty three 0:16:56.320 --> 0:16:59.480 World Cup, so most experienced, but she has not received 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:02.120 a call up twenty twenty five. Do you think that 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:04.760 is Emma giving others a chance or do you think 0:17:04.800 --> 0:17:07.240 the window has closed a bit on Murphy as being 0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:08.920 a viable contender for the spot. 0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:11.399 I have really thought about this because I also noticed 0:17:11.440 --> 0:17:14.639 that she hadn't gotten called up at all this year yet, 0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:17.800 and so part of me is wondering if Emma's seeing 0:17:17.840 --> 0:17:22.080 something in her form that she's not exactly loving, or 0:17:22.880 --> 0:17:25.680 she is, you know, just trying to give other people 0:17:25.680 --> 0:17:30.000 a chance. At this point, I would say that it 0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:35.359 might be she's not in favor with Emma and she's 0:17:35.480 --> 0:17:39.320 looking for someone who has a little bit more of 0:17:39.920 --> 0:17:42.720 maybe a presence in the back like Jane Campbell does 0:17:42.760 --> 0:17:45.399 with her feet, and so in that case, you know, 0:17:45.480 --> 0:17:49.240 Campbell might have catapulted over Murphy in the in the 0:17:49.280 --> 0:17:52.240 lineup because she was actually in front of her when 0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:55.640 Emma came in. Came in, Murphy was number two and 0:17:55.680 --> 0:17:58.159 Campbell was three or four. And now it seems like 0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:01.280 the reverse has happened, and I feel like maybe Emma 0:18:01.840 --> 0:18:05.600 just doesn't have the same feeling about Murphy as she 0:18:05.640 --> 0:18:06.360 does with Campbell. 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:10.399 Now, the Courage are the most possession oriented team in 0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:13.520 the league, so you would think that Murphy would be 0:18:13.520 --> 0:18:16.000 best suited to the style Emma's looking for. Is there 0:18:16.040 --> 0:18:18.080 something about her game that you think just might not 0:18:18.160 --> 0:18:18.560 be a fit. 0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:22.359 Well, you you definitely want to do your number one thing, 0:18:22.400 --> 0:18:25.600 which innimbus case is possessed the ball. But if she 0:18:25.720 --> 0:18:29.800 sees a dramatic difference in between her shot stopping abilities 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:35.159 versus another goalkeeper's shot stopping abilities and her ball her ballwork, 0:18:35.560 --> 0:18:38.240 it could be too big of a mountain too to overcome. 0:18:38.280 --> 0:18:40.480 She might be the best with the ball at her feet, 0:18:40.520 --> 0:18:43.920 but if her shot stopping is dramatically, you know, lower 0:18:44.400 --> 0:18:47.680 in quality than another goalkeeper. Then that's going to hinder 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:50.320 her a little bit. But it's hard to say because Emma, 0:18:50.640 --> 0:18:53.040 you know, she keeps her keeps her car close to 0:18:53.080 --> 0:18:55.080 the vest, and you just don't know what she's what 0:18:55.160 --> 0:18:58.040 she's doing, and she doesn't always tell you, which is great, 0:18:59.040 --> 0:19:01.359 so we're left to try to figure out what would 0:19:01.359 --> 0:19:04.200 exactly her cards read. But she's doing a lot of 0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:06.160 different things and she has time. That's the nice thing 0:19:06.320 --> 0:19:07.120 also about it. 0:19:07.280 --> 0:19:07.920 She has time. 0:19:08.160 --> 0:19:10.800 Yeah, with a particular time or in the international window 0:19:10.840 --> 0:19:12.800 with the Olympics and World Cup, it's a great time 0:19:12.800 --> 0:19:15.159 for her to be looking. Thank you, Alyssena or for 0:19:15.200 --> 0:19:20.440 timing this well. Mandy McGlenn had a thrilling goalkeeper assist 0:19:20.720 --> 0:19:23.600 on opening weekend that caught people's attention. We got very 0:19:23.600 --> 0:19:26.720 excited about how they were using her in that play. 0:19:26.800 --> 0:19:28.720 But Hayes has said she needs to work on reading 0:19:28.760 --> 0:19:30.879 the game in possession and knowing when to play short 0:19:30.960 --> 0:19:33.320