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Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where the Price

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Speaker 1: of Eggs has us paint and potatoes for the Easter

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Speaker 1: hunt this weekend. The prices are too damn high. It's Friday,

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Speaker 1: April eighteenth, Happy Friday, Slices. On today's show, we'll be

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Speaker 1: chatting with US women's national team legend and two time

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Speaker 1: Olympic gold medalist Briana Scurry about the battle for the

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Speaker 1: new number one keeper on the national team. Briana breaks

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Speaker 1: down the player's head coach Emma Hayes has to choose

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Speaker 1: from talks about what separates the greats from the goods,

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Speaker 1: teaches me a thing or two about possession and shares

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Speaker 1: the financial literacy lessons she's passing on to the next

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Speaker 1: generation of footy phenoms. Plus, it's almost time to crown

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Speaker 1: some champs on the mat. The PWHL draft is headed

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Speaker 1: north of the border. And always remember, no matter where,

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Speaker 1: no matter when, Shelley and Fraser Price will will pure

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Speaker 1: this Welcome Backslices. Here's what you need to know today

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Speaker 1: in gymnastics News. On yesterday show, we got you ready

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Speaker 1: for the National Collegiate Women's Championship semi finals with Trinity Thomas.

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Speaker 1: But if you miss those last night, be sure you

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Speaker 1: tune into the National Championship tomorrow four on the floor,

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Speaker 1: as they call it, the final team competition, where the

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Speaker 1: four top teams compete for the national title. You can

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Speaker 1: catch the competition starting at four pm Eastern on ABC.

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Speaker 1: And if you need a refresher on who to look

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Speaker 1: out for and how to be a smarter viewer, go

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Speaker 1: back and listen to that interview with Trinity. We'll link

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Speaker 1: to it in our show notes. In NWSL news, Angel

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Speaker 1: City FC has found its new head coach Bayern Munich.

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Speaker 1: Alexander Strauss will depart Germany to join the undefeated LA

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Speaker 1: side on June first. His hiring completes a search that

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Speaker 1: began when the franchise fired previous coach Becky Tweed in December.

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Speaker 1: Strauss's run with Byron has been stellar after getting the

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Speaker 1: job there in twenty twenty two. His squads have won

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Speaker 1: back to back frown Bundesliga titles and they're currently in good.

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Speaker 2: Shape to earn a third.

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Speaker 1: He'll take over an ACFC team sitting at fourth in

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Speaker 1: the NWSL standings. Speaking of the NWSL, there's a whole

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Speaker 1: lot of league action to look forward to tonight and tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: with seven games in total. Tonight kicks off with the

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Speaker 1: at ten pm Eastern on Prime Video, followed by a

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Speaker 1: Top five battle between Gotham FC and Angel CITYFC. That's

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Speaker 1: ten thirty Eastern back on NWSL Plus. Then on Saturday

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Speaker 1: there are four more games starting at two pm. We'll

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Speaker 1: link to the full NWSL schedule in our show notes

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Speaker 1: more pro soccer. The Northern Super League's first game was

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Speaker 1: storybook stuff you remember. Earlier this week, Canadian soccer legend

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Speaker 1: Christine Sinclair was on the show gushing over her former

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Speaker 1: NWSL opponent and Team Canada teammate Quinn about them joining

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Speaker 1: the NFL and their potential to be the face of

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Speaker 1: the league. Well, Quinn lived up to the hype, scoring

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Speaker 1: the first goal in NFL history via a penalty kick

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Speaker 1: in the twenty first minute on Wednesday night at BC Place.

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Speaker 1: That score proved to be the difference as their Vancouver

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Speaker 1: Rise FC side took a one nil victory over Calgary

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Speaker 1: The NFL continues its inaugural weekend tomorrow as AFC Toronto

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Speaker 2: You could stream that on ESPN Plus.

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Speaker 1: In International Hockey News, Team USA cruised past Germany three

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Speaker 1: not then yesterday to punch a ticket to the semifinals

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Speaker 1: of the Women's World Championship. Kelly Panic, Lacey Eden, and

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Speaker 1: assist tally to fifty one. The semi finals are tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: As of this recording, we don't yet know the game

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Speaker 1: the full schedule in the show notes. That game will

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Speaker 1: be on NHL Network. In Pro Hockey News, the PWHL

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Speaker 1: Draft is headed to Ottawa. The league made the announcement

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Speaker 1: You might remember us mentioning the PWHL's Gold Plan their

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Speaker 1: Looking at you, MNBA in hoops, the WNBA Players Association

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Speaker 1: So early on in the interview with Brianna, I admit

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Speaker 1: I've been spelling it wrong all this time. But then

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Speaker 1: she's always called Brianna Scurry, and I know that's not right.

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Speaker 1: But the problem is, guys, apparently the version I was

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Speaker 1: I guess my point is stay humble, y'all, because the

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Speaker 2: I promise all right.

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Speaker 1: joining US now one of the greatest goalkeepers of all time.

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Speaker 1: A two time Olympic gold medalist and World Cup champion,

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Speaker 1: every minute of the team's five matches of their gold

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Speaker 1: playing every minute of their triumphant ninety nine World Cup run.

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Speaker 1: Her career total of one hundred and seventy three international

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Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, and wrote a memoir, My Greatest Save. She's

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Speaker 1: been a coach, gm owner, and analyst. And she appeared

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Speaker 1: as herself an air Bud World. Pop It's Brianna Scurry, Hi, Brianna.

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Speaker 3: Hello, how are you?

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Speaker 4: That's that was one of the most fantastic intros I've

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Speaker 2: Great, I need to watch I need to watch Air

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Speaker 2: Bud World.

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Speaker 3: You totally need to watch.

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Speaker 4: That's how the young is that The only way the

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Speaker 2: Well, thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 1: I last saw you, No Big Deal at the Vice

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Speaker 2: Oh, Yes, okay, just no, biggie.

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Speaker 1: You were signing your name to the guestbook with your number,

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Speaker 1: and other people like, oh, should I write my number?

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Speaker 2: I'm like, only if you're Briana Scurry, Like, what do

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Speaker 2: you mean? You're junior high number.

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Speaker 1: No, I.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 1: I have to ask the most important question first, What

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Speaker 1: happens more often your name is misspelled or mispronounced?

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Speaker 4: Mispronounced almost every single time?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I have to admit I've been misspelling it for

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Speaker 1: most of the time. I thought there were two ends,

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Speaker 2: I take one end. Where have I been? At least

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Speaker 1: looking for. But I want you to educate us a

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Speaker 1: little first. I think the average soccer player is pretty

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Speaker 2: Should have been made. What else should we be watching

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Speaker 2: for with these keepers to help us sort of understand

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Speaker 4: I think one of the nuances you need to watch

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Speaker 4: and that's communication with their back line, in particular the

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Speaker 4: then weird stuff happens. I mean, the untrained eye may

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Speaker 4: than the shot stopping, obviously is important, is a communication

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Speaker 4: because what ends up happening is if you have bad communication,

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Speaker 4: you end up with way more shots, right, which is

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Speaker 4: not good?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, fewer shots, fewer goals usually not always.

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Speaker 3: Yes.

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Speaker 1: There's a great story from ESPN's Jeff Kasoof, writing about

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Speaker 1: the battle for this keeper position, and in it he

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Speaker 2: Can you explain what that means?

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Speaker 4: Yes, So, when you have possession of the ball in

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Speaker 4: Not just a goalkeeper that kicks the ball forward and

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Speaker 2: Got it.

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Speaker 1: So on the ball means playing on the ball like

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Speaker 4: Redistributing that position, yes, yes, to receive the ball and

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's certainly something we notice, is which teams

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Speaker 2: How does that.

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Speaker 1: Style fit with what you just told us with Hayes

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Speaker 4: Well, for Campbell, it's a great advantage. I mean, she's

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Speaker 4: use her feet incredibly well. I've always liked Jane Campbell.

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Speaker 4: She's fantastic, But what I fear is the fact that

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Speaker 4: it's a lack of communication on her part to her backs.

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Speaker 4: Like I said earlier, like she has a lot of

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Speaker 4: good thing. And unfortunately the Dash, you know, they struggle

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so when it's a possession oriented team, they want

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Speaker 2: They have to take more chances.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of the difference between a possion oriented team

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Speaker 3: Yes, that is definitely the difference between the two.

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Speaker 3: And what you're also doing is.

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Speaker 4: You're moving that opposing team, that opponent around the pitch

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Speaker 4: that's called, you you can do that more easily as

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Speaker 4: has just a lot of raw talent and it's expecting

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Speaker 1: Better right because they're tiring out the opponent who's running around,

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about some of the other keepers in the mix.

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Speaker 1: So besides Campbell, there's Utah's Mandy McGlenn, Manchester United's Fallin

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Speaker 1: Tellus Joyce, North Carolina's Casey Murphy, and then Angel Cities

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Speaker 1: Angelina Anderson. Murphy is the only other player besides Campbell

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Speaker 4: I have really thought about this because I also noticed

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Speaker 4: Emma came in. Came in, Murphy was number two and

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Speaker 1: Now, the Courage are the most possession oriented team in

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Speaker 4: Well, you you definitely want to do your number one thing,

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Speaker 4: it could be too big of a mountain too to overcome.

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Speaker 3: I've seen a lot of talent.

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Speaker 4: I've seen a lot of potential and for me with

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Speaker 4: I think Emma definitely sees some potential in her and

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Speaker 4: we'll see, because it's sometimes the popcorn doesn't pop, you

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Speaker 3: You don't know that in the beginning.

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Speaker 4: And so for me, the best you know, indicator of

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Speaker 1: Highest, Yeah, fallon tell us Joyce earning a lot of

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Speaker 1: She just got her first call up to camp last November,

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Speaker 2: She likes to do diving.

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Speaker 2: What have you seen from her?

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Speaker 4: You're absolutely right, she is the octopus out there. I've

439
00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:19,080
Speaker 4: seen her make some saves that are absolutely outstanding in

440
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Speaker 4: league play, and it is great that she's not getting

441
00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:25,760
Speaker 4: her opportunity. I feel like maybe before Emma came in,

442
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,919
Speaker 4: there wasn't any really any real room for her to

443
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Speaker 4: crack into that group, and now she's been able to

444
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,399
Speaker 4: do it because you know, Emma's trying a lot of

445
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,560
Speaker 4: different things now, so now is her chance to shine.

446
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,639
Speaker 4: So if she can come along really quickly with the

447
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Speaker 4: ball at her feet and show that she's more comfortable,

448
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Speaker 4: then I think she'll be able to stay.

449
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Speaker 3: And the longer she gets to stay.

450
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Speaker 4: The more potential she has to, you know, evolve and develop,

451
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Speaker 4: and I feel like for the goalkeeping crew, I mean,

452
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Speaker 4: that's a big shoes.

453
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Speaker 3: To fill for any funny.

454
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Speaker 4: I mean, the history of the national team goalkeepers is

455
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Speaker 4: all hall of famers.

456
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Speaker 3: So yeah, no big deal. That's the thing.

457
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Speaker 4: Right, So what I would say to these young ones

458
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:10,679
Speaker 4: that Emma's talking about the ability to know when to

459
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,119
Speaker 4: play far and long and when to keep possession. It

460
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 4: really comes down to confidence, it really does. And so

461
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,919
Speaker 4: if you can just even if your heart is like

462
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,400
Speaker 4: fluttering like crazy and you're like, you know, I want

463
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Speaker 4: to kick it, get kick a wide or kick it far.

464
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Speaker 3: Just fight, fight against that feeling.

465
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Speaker 4: And just try to see if you can, if you

466
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Speaker 4: can manage it, and then and try to do what

467
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Speaker 4: coach says, because you know, if you can, you'll find

468
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Speaker 4: yourself on the team.

469
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Speaker 1: Well, I think confidence and communication and connection which will

470
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Speaker 1: only come when they finally decide who it is and

471
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Speaker 1: that person gets a lot of reps with their back line,

472
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Speaker 1: with their defenders, with the folks that they need to

473
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Speaker 1: have confidence in along with themselves. Right, because you can

474
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Speaker 1: have a lot of confidence in yourself and then tee

475
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Speaker 1: up the wrong players in spots that aren't good for

476
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Speaker 1: them or that expose their weaknesses. Angela Anderson finally she

477
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,480
Speaker 1: got called up as a training camp player for the

478
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Speaker 1: national team, you know. In interestingly, she kind of sat

479
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 1: back in her rookie season in the NWSL with angel City,

480
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 1: then got an opportunity to start, then got replaced again.

481
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Speaker 2: Now she's back playing.

482
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Speaker 1: So she's been in and out sort of like actually

483
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Speaker 1: with Valentelli's Joyce, Right, Valentelli's Joyce might end up being

484
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Speaker 1: the best one of the bunch, but was behind Mary

485
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 1: ERPs for so long we just didn't quite know what

486
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Speaker 1: you had. Maybe Angelina Anderson just needs a little more time.

487
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Speaker 1: She's kind of like on the outskirts of this group

488
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Speaker 1: because she's just a training camp player.

489
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Speaker 2: But have you seen anything from her you like I do.

490
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Speaker 4: I see that she's got great potential as well. I

491
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 4: see that she understands the game, but I really, for me,

492
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Speaker 4: there's a little bit of a psychological edge to her.

493
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Speaker 4: So if she can come in and really make the

494
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Speaker 4: most of the opportunity and grab it by the horns

495
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,639
Speaker 4: and really go for it, like tellus Joyce did her

496
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Speaker 4: last game, I feel like.

497
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Speaker 3: She's in the mix as well.

498
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Speaker 4: I mean, because if you're continuing to get invited into

499
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Speaker 4: the camp, and you can perform well at every session,

500
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Speaker 4: which is hard to do.

501
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Speaker 3: It's hard to go from peak to peak.

502
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Speaker 4: But if you can do that as a young goalkeeper,

503
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 4: then there's no telling how long your runway could be.

504
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,920
Speaker 4: And so, you know, I feel like all of these

505
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:13,679
Speaker 4: young keepers have a great advantage over say Campbell or

506
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:17,919
Speaker 4: Murphy because they're just coming in and they're unaware, and

507
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:19,879
Speaker 4: they're out there just doing their thing, and they're not

508
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 4: worried about the past or what has come before them

509
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 4: as much as maybe some of the older goalkeepers are.

510
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 4: But Anderson's definitely got a lot of potential there. She

511
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Speaker 4: can easily come along and do what Emma's asking her

512
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Speaker 4: to do. I have full confidence in her because as

513
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 4: a goalkeeper who is in and out, in the in

514
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:42,439
Speaker 4: and out, that's a psychological tell if you're able to

515
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,360
Speaker 4: handle that. So she's got the mentality, she just needs

516
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Speaker 4: to show it in her inner game. When Emma's watching.

517
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Speaker 2: I hear dog over there?

518
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Speaker 1: Are they they want to be a part of the interviewer,

519
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Speaker 1: tell us the name, tell us the kind.

520
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Speaker 3: Her name is Mazie.

521
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Speaker 4: She is a one year old Nova Scoti duck Tolling

522
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 4: retriever sure which is able common breed.

523
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Speaker 1: We all are very familiar with sure Nova Scotia duck Tolling. All.

524
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Speaker 4: Yeah, she's gorgeous. She's absolutely amazing, but she is a

525
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 4: little temperamental. She doesn't like when mommy is in her

526
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 4: office and she's not Misha.

527
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Speaker 2: Alex, what do you think should we toss her? Or

528
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Speaker 2: be okay?

529
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Speaker 4: With a couple of footprints, you would love to toss

530
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Speaker 4: the doggie.

531
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Speaker 1: I got to the doggie red card, red card. Now

532
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 1: that we have tossed the dog to do, as Alex

533
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 1: put it, a dog zoe at denying an obvious goal

534
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 1: scoring opportunity. That's what your dog was doing with this podcast.

535
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 1: You know, you mentioned Emma keeping her cards close to

536
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Speaker 1: the vest, and while that certainly means that those of

537
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 1: us who are media have lots of questions about what's

538
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 1: on her mind, do you have a sense of how

539
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 1: much she actually communicates for thoughts and expectations to the players,

540
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 1: specifically these potential keepers, or how much they also feel

541
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Speaker 1: like they're sort of left to wonder.

542
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 4: From what I know of Emma, I've known her for

543
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 4: a long time, I'm actually thrilled that she got this job.

544
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 4: So I was like hopping up and down when she

545
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 4: came in because I knew her style and her her

546
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 4: personality would really be a great advantage to the team.

547
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 4: I feel like she's probably talking to them. I mean,

548
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 4: I think she's a very vocal coach. She's communicative with

549
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 4: her players, and she has been in the past and

550
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 4: she is now. And I feel like she's letting them

551
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 4: know where they stand, which as a player is all

552
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,479
Speaker 4: you really can ask for, right, I mean, if you

553
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 4: if you understand what the coaches is expecting of you

554
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 4: and is demanding of you, then you can you can

555
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 4: deliver it. So I'm sure she's letting them know, especially

556
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 4: the younger ones, because you know, it's a it's a

557
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 4: deep it's a deep into the pool, getting tossed in

558
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 4: the camp and at a time like this, and it's

559
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 4: really really can be psychologically, you know, stressful. So I

560
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 4: think having communication, she's she's good about that.

561
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Speaker 1: And I think you can also tell players here's what

562
00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 1: I'm looking for, here's what I want, and also we

563
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: are I'll understand that there's some bit of magic, there's

564
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: the eye test, some subjective feeling about a player that

565
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 1: might be willing and able to step up in those moments. So, yes,

566
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: this is what I want, but it's not going to

567
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 1: come down to do I had eight of those and

568
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 1: she had seven, so clearly it's me right. But those

569
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 1: lines of communication do, I think make the psychological side

570
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: of it easier because you just do your best to

571
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: meet the expectations of what they want and that's all

572
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 1: you can do.

573
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 2: Absolutely So, besides just.

574
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 1: Now in this moment becoming our go to analyst on

575
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,199
Speaker 1: the battle for the number one keeper on the US

576
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 1: coland national team, you also.

577
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 2: Do other things.

578
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 1: You're very busy with your own work, and you actually

579
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 1: recently signed on as an ambassador for Gainbridge. Can you

580
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 1: tell us a bit about this partnership and what you're

581
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 1: going to do together.

582
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I'm really excited about this partnership with Gamebridge, and

583
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 4: in part because my journey through finance has been a

584
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 4: very interesting one and this gives me the opportunity to

585
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 4: talk about it more So. Gamebridge is trying to accomplish

586
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 4: is they're trying to obviously fund more women's sports, not

587
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 4: only soccer, but basketball, tennis, golf, all over the book,

588
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 4: all over the globe for women's sports, and so I'm

589
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 4: just feeling really really excited and very honored to be

590
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:15,679
Speaker 4: the soccer representation of the Ambassadorship because, you know, athletes,

591
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 4: in particular female athletes, A their windows are shorter and

592
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 4: B their income is less over time, and so understanding

593
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 4: finances and getting an understanding and a feeling for for

594
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 4: you know, finances is really important. It's something that I

595
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 4: didn't necessarily understand when I was playing. So I feel

596
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 4: like I'm one of a perfect example to help game

597
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 4: Bridge spread the word throughout this country for female athletes

598
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 4: to understand the importance of having financial aptitude, and game

599
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 4: Bridges really helped me with that already.

600
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're going to host clinics, help with the opportunities

601
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 1: for women and girls to play, and then empower women

602
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 1: to reach their financial goals, which, to your point, is

603
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: something that I think. It's it's funny because it's almost

604
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 1: like men's sports when they have millions and millions, you're like, yeah,

605
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: you need a financial advisor because you got to not

606
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: you know, blow it all. At the same time, they

607
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: have millions and millions of dollars, there's a little bit

608
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: of room for error there, whereas on the women's side.

609
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 1: We you know, when I was in the ownership side

610
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: of the Red Stars, we were working really hard to

611
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: try to set up these like financial literacy meetings, and

612
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 1: we ran into some issues with who's the sponsor and

613
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: if it's not our sponsor, we can't do it with

614
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 1: the other banks. And it's like, Okay, we just want

615
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: the players to get to have some conversations about this

616
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: stuff and help them with this. But you know, financial

617
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: literacy is particularly of interest to you, and you mentioned

618
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: this because you had some real financial hardship after the

619
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: concussion that ended your career. You retired suddenly without planning

620
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 1: ahead for it. Because of the concussion in twenty ten,

621
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 1: you had headaches and neck pain, insomnia, depression, memory loss.

622
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: It really sidelined you from everything in life, not just soccer.

623
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: You eventually had to get occipital nerve surgery and it

624
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: was this very, very long journey for you that ultimately

625
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 1: resulted in financial issues as well. Can you talk a

626
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: little bit about that. I know it's something you've written

627
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 1: about in your book and spoken about, but it does

628
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: make you sort of really well qualified to speak to

629
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: people about these unexpected moments and how they can affect

630
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 1: more than just your dreams as an athlete.

631
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 3: Absolutely, yeah.

632
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 4: That My my financial journey is one for the books,

633
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 4: if you will. And it's been up and down, you know,

634
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 4: all over the place. And that particular time after that

635
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 4: head injury, you know, the last thing I was thinking

636
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 4: about at the time was my money and my finances.

637
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 4: I was just thinking more about trying to get better

638
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 4: and how I would do that. And so because I

639
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 4: was declared temporarily totally disabled, I couldn't work. And so

640
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 4: it got to a point where, because the funding was

641
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 4: running low on on the on the checks I was

642
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 4: getting from from the insurance company, I was really struggling

643
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 4: because I really couldn't work.

644
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 3: And so for me, the only thing of.

645
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 4: Value that I had at the time were my medals,

646
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 4: and so I made their really difficult and very very

647
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 4: you know, hard to hard to fathom decision of pawning

648
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 4: them because at the end of the day, I had

649
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 4: bills to pay, and so I had to do it.

650
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 4: And it pained me so much to do that, but

651
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 4: I was actually, you know, I felt I had no

652
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 4: other choice, and so I did that.

653
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 3: But I did eventually.

654
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 4: Get them back within a rather relatively short amount of time,

655
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 4: and I have them today. But you know what, that

656
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 4: that journey, that experience has really made me more focused

657
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Speaker 4: on finances for myself and and and over time. How athletes,

658
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Speaker 4: in particular female athletes, a lot of times the athlete

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Speaker 4: doesn't think about tomorrow or after their career when they're

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Speaker 4: in it. It's almost like it's a taboo thing to do.

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Speaker 4: Like if I'm thinking about after my career, I'm gonna,

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Speaker 4: you know, my presence somehow exactly thinks yourself. And I'm

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Speaker 4: here to with Gamebridge to try to you know, the

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Speaker 4: spell that myth that your your athletic window.

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Speaker 3: Your game window is only.

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Speaker 4: So big, so long, several years and if you're lucky,

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Speaker 4: it's ten years, but your life after is orders of

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Speaker 4: magnitude more So, let's be logical about that and bring

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Speaker 4: that thinking into the present. And I think Gamebridge is

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Speaker 4: going to really help me reach all these young ladies

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Speaker 4: who are playing sports and help them understand that I.

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Speaker 1: Want to ask you a personal question. You can answer

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Speaker 1: with whatever detail or blow me off entirely. But I'm

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Speaker 1: sort of fascinated by people's ingrained messaging around money. I

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Speaker 1: think if you grow up and you have a family,

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Speaker 1: whether you're rich or poor or somewhere in between, that

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Speaker 1: always says, we always find a way. Your approach is that,

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Speaker 1: And if you have a family that is very tight

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Speaker 1: with money, or is always worried about losing it, or

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Speaker 1: goes through these big ups and downs, you tend to

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Speaker 1: have that approach even in times of abundance. Do you

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Speaker 1: have that understanding of your relationship with finances from young

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Speaker 1: through to now, because you've said it's gone up and down,

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Speaker 1: do you tend to have the same attitude of all

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Speaker 1: work out or oh my god, regardless of other things

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Speaker 1: are good or bad.

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Speaker 3: I love this question. It's so interesting.

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Speaker 4: So I know from understanding psychology and sociology and economics

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Speaker 4: and all of that that my belief systems around money

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Speaker 4: came from my family and my parents, and so in

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Speaker 4: my household when I was younger, money was burning a

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Speaker 4: hole in your pocket basically, So the thought was, you know,

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Speaker 4: once you had some money, you had to figure out

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Speaker 4: how to spend it. There wasn't a lot of conversation

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Speaker 4: around how to save it. And so over time I

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Speaker 4: adopted a similar mentality because that's what I was taught,

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Speaker 4: and it wasn't until you know, in my early adulthood

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Speaker 4: that I realized that I needed to try to do

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Speaker 4: the opposite of burning it all and letting it burn

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Speaker 4: a hole in my in my pocket and try to

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Speaker 4: save some And so, yes, I definitely feel like you

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Speaker 4: understand what you're taught from an early time in your life,

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Speaker 4: and what I think what people need to do with

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Speaker 4: those belief systems that no longer suit them, especially around finances,

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Speaker 4: is they have to leave them there and get rid

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Speaker 4: of them and make new ones. And so it's always

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Speaker 4: a better thing to understand your belief systems and examine

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Speaker 4: them to see if they still suit you or not.

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Speaker 4: And so for me now, saving is very important obviously

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Speaker 4: making connections and delivering great value to people, so that

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Speaker 4: I know the dollars I earn are have been earned

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Speaker 4: by me and that I am worthy of them, and

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Speaker 4: that I am also as an African American woman, I'm

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Speaker 4: worthy of having wealth. And it took me a long

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Speaker 4: time to understand that and to even believe that, because

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Speaker 4: in society there's not a whole lot of examples of that.

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Speaker 4: And I want to try to try to be one

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Speaker 4: as much as I can and go forth and try

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Speaker 4: to explain to young ladies that your money is your

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Speaker 4: responsibility and in order to wield that power, you have

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Speaker 4: to understand understand the power, and so hopefully I'll help

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Speaker 4: them help them realize that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've mentioned I have this book coming out June third,

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Speaker 1: and there's a lot of stuff in it about emotional

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Speaker 1: DNA and the language and messaging that we inherit and

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Speaker 1: then can decide with intention to pass on or that

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Speaker 1: it no longer suits us.

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Speaker 2: And it really is a powerful tool to be.

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Speaker 1: Able to understand how that's leading your decision making subconsciously

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Speaker 1: and then to decide that doesn't apply to me anymore.

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Speaker 1: Or maybe that worked for my grandparents and it serves

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Speaker 1: some role in the life that they were in.

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Speaker 2: But today and right now, it is not a.

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Speaker 1: Useful like line to keep repeating in my head about

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Speaker 1: whatever it is, money or otherwise. So I love that

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Speaker 1: you're understanding of all that stuff and you know all

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Speaker 1: the psychology behind it, because it is so important, and

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Speaker 1: especially as a female athlete, you cannot be like, this

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Speaker 1: money's burning a hole in my pocket.

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Speaker 2: Let me go ahead get rid of it, cuz exactly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you've also talked about concussion research and

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Speaker 1: you've testified it front of Congress about it. Are there

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Speaker 1: measures that you would like to see embraced by US

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Speaker 1: soccer or the larger global soccer forces as immediately as possible.

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Speaker 1: Do you think we're behind on figuring out.

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Speaker 4: I do think we're behind, And what I would love

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Speaker 4: to see on a global scale in soccer is more

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Speaker 4: research dollars being poured into testing and figuring out the

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Speaker 4: statistics for women, in particular women women footballers. Most of

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Speaker 4: the research and most of the information that we have

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Speaker 4: the body of work is essentially around men, and even

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Speaker 4: more narrow is around NFL football players and how they

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Speaker 4: you know, how they evolved in how their brains have

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Speaker 4: changed over the course of having a bunch of hits.

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Speaker 4: But in soccer, people say it's non contact, but I

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Speaker 4: beg to differ. You know, there's a lot of collisions

757
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Speaker 4: that happen, and now the research is showing that, you know,

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Speaker 4: many many concussions happen, you know, but potentially by the

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Speaker 4: by the dozens, if not by the hundreds.

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Speaker 2: And everything else.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, and just like you know, going into a tackle

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Speaker 4: hard and maybe your neck moves a little bit fast,

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Speaker 4: or somebody just barely nicks you and you're not ready,

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Speaker 4: and you're changing direction. Your brain is sloshing around in

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Speaker 4: your skull all the time, and so it becomes impaired

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Speaker 4: over time.

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Speaker 3: It's that repetitiveness that's the issue.

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Speaker 4: And if the soccer community can put more information and

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Speaker 4: more research into how this affects female footballers over the

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Speaker 4: course of the years, then it would be more safe

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Speaker 4: in the future for not only men, but also for

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Speaker 4: women as well.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad Michelle Kang's donation is in part going to

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Speaker 1: that kind of research. For newest and latest partnership with

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Speaker 1: US Soccer will be about studying, you know, women athletes

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Speaker 1: and the bodies of women. I mean, we know men's

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Speaker 1: brains are smaller at science, so obviously they're going to

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Speaker 1: interact differently with just so little reverse anchorman. Okay, got

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Speaker 1: to let you go, but I have to ask you

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Speaker 1: just last thing. What do you do for joy these days?

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Speaker 1: What's your happy place or your happy activity?

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Speaker 4: Well, one of the things I do for joy as

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Speaker 4: of late in the last year is my little puppy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, amazing, she's amazing, she really is. I love her.

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Speaker 4: She's dear to me. But also what I do for

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Speaker 4: joy is I really continue to be physical. So I

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Speaker 4: like to lift, I like to go for walks, you know,

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Speaker 4: I like to do things like that. And then also

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Speaker 4: i'm a mom. Now, I'm a bonus mom. I got

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Speaker 4: two amazing step children, and trying on the mom's shoes

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00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 4: is one of my favorite hobbies since it has They're

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Speaker 4: twenty two and eighteen.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, you got them at a decent age, right, Yes,

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Speaker 1: the damage is done, you take it exactly.

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Speaker 4: I'm just trying to fine tune things. I'm just trying to,

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Speaker 4: you know, polish and provide clarity where I can.

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Speaker 2: How new is this with your partner wife?

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Speaker 3: Yes? My wife? Yes?

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Speaker 2: Okay, you made it legal. Okay. How long have you

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Speaker 2: been a bonus mom?

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Speaker 4: I've been a bonus mom for going on seven years now,

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Speaker 4: to be seven years in June, and so I'm.

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Speaker 2: Still learning enough to have some authority.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely to be more fun anyway.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, now you got to be Now, you gotta

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00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 1: be bad cops sometimes too. You don't exactly the one

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Speaker 1: that takes them out, you know, for Candy.

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Speaker 2: When Mom's gone.

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Speaker 1: Well, Brian, it's so great to talk to you always,

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Speaker 1: and I feel so much more informed about this keeper battle.

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Speaker 1: I'm just really even more excited to watch all these

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Speaker 1: different players try to make their run for it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why, but the octopus is leading the

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Speaker 1: I just I like the idea of someone with a

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Speaker 1: great nickname taken over for uncle, Uncle nayor.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for the time.

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Speaker 4: We really appreciate it absolutely, thanks for having me appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much to Briana for joining us.

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Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Production by

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Speaker 1: Wonder Media Network, our producers are Alex Azzie and Misha Jones.

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Speaker 1: Our executive producers are Christina Everett, Jesse Katz, Jenny Kaplan

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Speaker 1: and Emily Rudder. Our editors are Emily Rutterer, Britney Martinez

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Speaker 1: and Grace Lynch. Our associate producer is Lucy Jones and

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Speaker 1: I'm Your Host Sarah Spain