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Speaker 2: good hour for you. John Middlecoff is going to be

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Speaker 2: showing up in about ten twelve minutes. Former NFL scout.

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Speaker 2: Let me start it off by saying, that's one of

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Speaker 2: the great performances by a quarterback I have seen. And

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Speaker 2: I know he had turnovers, but thirty of thirty eight

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Speaker 2: for three hundred and sixty yards and that quarterback run

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Speaker 2: with about three minutes left, That dude is an all

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Speaker 2: time talent. Now, Josh makes mistakes. He had three turnovers,

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Speaker 2: but first he's first Miami been whining all year that

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Speaker 2: I don't respect him. They got one win over a

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Speaker 2: team of winning record, Dallas, and if Dallas doesn't botch

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Speaker 2: a handoff near the goal line, they go up fourteen

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Speaker 2: to three. And there's a big chance they win that game.

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Speaker 2: Miami has not proven they can beat Buffalo. Forget it.

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Speaker 2: Josh Allen owns the Miami Dolphins. You know how Brady

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Speaker 2: He's just a remarkable player. And two is a nice quarterback.

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Speaker 2: The difference between two and Josh Allen. One manages a

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Speaker 2: Allen led the NFL in touchdowns. What you watched tonight,

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Speaker 2: which allows the Bills now to have a home game

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Speaker 2: against the Steelers in the playoffs. Good luck to whoever's

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Speaker 2: quarterbacking the Steelers. But you just watched one of the

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Speaker 2: great playmakers. I think Fangio earlier this week said it

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Speaker 2: it's like John Elway. Plus that's a lot what Elway

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Speaker 2: looked like tonight. Elway threw some picks. Elway had a

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Speaker 2: and that is Josh Allen. I thought Miami got some

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Speaker 2: that sets up some really interesting matchups in the AFC playoffs.

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Speaker 2: John Middlecoff, former NFL scout. Hi, everybody, and welcome in.

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Speaker 2: It's the Colin Coward Podcast, our Sunday night ritual. John

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Speaker 2: Middlecoff a former NFL scout with the Philadelphia Eagles. He

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Speaker 2: has his three and Out podcast. We chop it up

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Speaker 2: for about fifty to fifty five minutes, and let's start John.

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Speaker 2: The draft order for those draft knicks out there, and

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Speaker 2: it really came down to the last second. Chicago, Washington,

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Speaker 2: New England won two. Three will all take quarterbacks? I

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Speaker 2: presume Arizona four, Chargers five won't. Marvin Harrison Chargers may

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Speaker 2: So let's start with this. Let's start with Chicago. I mean,

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Speaker 2: We're both on field. Isn't the guy you can get

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Speaker 1: Yeah, to me, he's gone. I'm all in for Jim Harbaugh.

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Speaker 2: think in the rare instances, John just getting to the

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Speaker 1: Totally with you. They can lose by twenty this weekend. Yep,

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Speaker 1: no one should frown, no one should be mad, and

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Speaker 1: It never happens. I mean, the greatest thing I've ever

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Speaker 2: because I started this tonight. I'm gonna do some commentary

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Speaker 2: opening round playoff game. Jesus Stafford goes back home. It's

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Speaker 2: Baltimore has destroyed Miami, destroyed San Francisco, destroyed, Seattle destroyed.

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Speaker 1: We don't know the times. As we're recording this. I'd

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Speaker 2: Okay, so Philadelphia, a five seed, will go to Tampa.

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Speaker 2: I don't like what I see from Philadelphia. You take

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Speaker 2: I mean that shit today was embarrassing. And I've always

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Speaker 2: Problem is he is? I you know, I would have

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Speaker 1: agree with you. Now, I'm not totally opposed to defensive coaches.

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Speaker 1: The right guy, you know, Vrabel's proven to be legit. Yeah,

425
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Speaker 1: Demiko's a star. My defensive coach if he's young, right

426
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Speaker 1: under fifty, has to be a play caller. What happens

427
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Speaker 1: Saturday night, Demiko's calling the defense, Shane Sykin's calling the offense.

428
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Speaker 1: I'm not looking for a CEO that's forty one years

429
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Speaker 1: old here in the NFL. Right if it's you know,

430
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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick, some of these Pete Carroll, I get it.

431
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Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh. Nick Sirian is a CEO head coach. He's

432
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Speaker 1: like forty two years old. I mean, what's he bringing

433
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Speaker 1: to the table. His motivation is clearly not working. So

434
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Speaker 1: schematically we saw last night, everyone's crushing Shane Sykin. At

435
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Speaker 1: the end of the game. He called the time out

436
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 1: because he knew the defense. He was playing mental games

437
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,639
Speaker 1: with him and Demiko were going at they were scheming

438
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,879
Speaker 1: up against each other all night long, and he called

439
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:09,639
Speaker 1: the right play. The guy just dropped it bad pass

440
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,919
Speaker 1: to me, I don't really know what Siriani's doing. I

441
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,119
Speaker 1: mean he's pacing around. They're losing their leaking oil. He

442
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 1: has no ability to pass that leak right now, and

443
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,879
Speaker 1: it's getting worse. There are more leaks popping up. Like

444
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Speaker 1: you said, you could argue that you know, they're probably

445
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Speaker 1: assuming the Cowboys are gonna win, so maybe they didn't

446
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 1: take the game as seriously. But that effort was gutless,

447
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 1: like they weren't even trying. They might as well have

448
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,120
Speaker 1: just said, hey, let's just we'll just give you guys

449
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Speaker 1: the win. We'll just walk off the field.

450
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Speaker 2: Look at the effort the Rams had today with Carson Wentz.

451
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Speaker 2: It was a stupendous effort. I always think when you

452
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Speaker 2: mail in an effort, you disrespect your boss. If I

453
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Speaker 2: at my last show at foul, let's say I'm seventy

454
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 2: years old, I'm leaving Fox. If I'm mail in my

455
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Speaker 2: last show, that's disrespecting my boss.

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Speaker 1: Who didn't try today. Colin every game, Arizona's trying, even

457
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Speaker 1: Jacksonville lost trying. Everyone today. Whether you were in the

458
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 1: playoffs or not. It's football. No, these contracts are guaranteed,

459
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 1: all these coaches. Everyone tries to me they were the

460
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Speaker 1: one team that were Atlanta. I mean, they're kind of

461
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,360
Speaker 1: a disaster. But to me, Philly, like, where's your pride?

462
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Speaker 1: What's going on? Especially you know you're playing next week?

463
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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: You're not a buy team. It's not like this game

465
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Speaker 1: doesn't matter, like you're the forty nine ers to mail

466
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Speaker 1: in an effort like that. With the way everything's been going,

467
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Speaker 1: I don't know. To me, Philly can lose at any moment,

468
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Speaker 1: and I don't love the matchup for Tampa to beat Philly. Hope,

469
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Speaker 1: you know, maybe Baker gets a little more healthy, because

470
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Speaker 1: to me, he looks, you know, like fifty sixty seventy

471
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Speaker 1: percent max and he's not talented enough to overcome that.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't. I wouldn't feel. I wouldn't put

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Speaker 1: any money on the Philadelphia Eagles right now. That's for

474
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Speaker 1: damn sure.

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Speaker 2: No, I would you though I said this last week,

476
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Speaker 2: i'd give I would have no problem. You know, Baker

477
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 2: struggled with injuries. You know, he's one of those guys

478
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Speaker 2: that plays he's got some alpha, some times he'd you'd

479
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 2: be like, slide, get out of bounds, don't wait. You know,

480
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Speaker 2: sometimes he'll take a hit because it's part of his hutz,

481
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,120
Speaker 2: but it's part of his sort of his shield, it's

482
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Speaker 2: part of his personality. Is I'm a tough guy. I'm

483
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Speaker 2: one of you. And there's almost a Jim McMahon quality

484
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Speaker 2: to it. You like Jim Slide. Jim took some shots.

485
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Speaker 2: I would give Baker. I'd have no problem, no misgivings,

486
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Speaker 2: giving Baker a two to a three year deal if

487
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Speaker 2: it's in the threes, you know, thirty one thirty. Garoppolo

488
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Speaker 2: got a deal, and I think Baker throws a better

489
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Speaker 2: ball than Garoppolo. Would you have a problem with it?

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Speaker 1: That number seems a little high to me. I mean

491
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Speaker 1: I ideally had like like one fifteen. But again, you know,

492
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Speaker 1: the quarterback market can get weird. Who are you really

493
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Speaker 1: betting against with him? You know, at those type numbers.

494
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Speaker 1: I mean, we'll see. The quarterback market always changes. Like

495
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Speaker 1: you said, Jimmy Garoppolo. The difference with Jimmy though, you

496
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 1: can nitpick them all you want, and he's not good anymore.

497
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Speaker 1: He had been a part of a winner. People you

498
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Speaker 1: know the teammate. No one ever questioned him, no one

499
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Speaker 1: ever had any issues with him in terms of internally

500
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Speaker 1: in the locker room. I know Baker doesn't now, but

501
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Speaker 1: there were a lot of question marks. To me, did

502
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Speaker 1: you get for like under twenty million dollars just one year?

503
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Speaker 1: I would try to take a deep breath and not

504
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,959
Speaker 1: try to overreact. Now he wins a playoff game, a

505
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Speaker 1: two year deal, you know, still to me, it's like

506
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Speaker 1: forty million dollars, maybe guarantee twenty five or something. You like,

507
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,400
Speaker 1: where'd you get this guy just played for four million dollars,

508
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 1: So you know, maybe just factor in where you're at.

509
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Speaker 1: I would try You've seen some of these happen with

510
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 1: those mid tier guys when you overpay and it kind

511
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Speaker 1: of goes the other way. Because the other thing with Tampa,

512
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Speaker 1: I mean, they have some older players, so is this

513
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Speaker 1: kind of the end of the wrung for their kind

514
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 1: of run and they're kind of in a transitionary time

515
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Speaker 1: Because sometimes you do that, then all of a sudden

516
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Speaker 1: you realize, well, we're not quite the same team as

517
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Speaker 1: last year. Is Mike Evans back on the team, You know,

518
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 1: you have some turnover. Then you're like, I wish we

519
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 1: wouldn't have done that, but he clearly has ingratiated himself

520
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,479
Speaker 1: to Jason Light I mean, Todd Bowles, you gotta give

521
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Speaker 1: him some credit. I know the division suck, but they

522
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Speaker 1: wanted for the third straight year to win it without

523
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Speaker 1: Tom Brady. You know, New Orleans got to be kicking

524
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 1: themselves because they had no business not winning this divisions.

525
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: That's pretty embarrassing. I know a lot of people act

526
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 1: like Dennis Allen's coming back, and clearly Dennis Allen's just fine.

527
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Speaker 1: And in fairness to New Orleans, they didn't want Sean

528
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Speaker 1: Payton to leave. That's why he had a trade for

529
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Speaker 1: him that they would have liked to keep them. But

530
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Speaker 1: that's you know, Derek started playing well these last couple

531
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Speaker 1: of weeks. Where the hell was that in the middle

532
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Speaker 1: of the season, he just plays something like that. In

533
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Speaker 1: the middle of the season, they might win this division

534
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Speaker 1: by a couple of games, and to me, I would

535
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Speaker 1: take them a lot more seriously the way they're playing,

536
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Speaker 1: So Philly might get lucky that they're playing in Tampa

537
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 1: not New Orleans right now.

538
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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, Derek has played better in the last month,

539
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 2: and you know it's a new system, a defensive coach

540
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,199
Speaker 2: couldn't It could have taken longer. I still think, I

541
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Speaker 2: really do think that New Orleans has the most talent

542
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 2: in the division. I think are the best team. But

543
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 2: we've seen this before. A quarterback gets I mean, I

544
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:51,360
Speaker 2: don't think Pittsburgh is a is a very viable playoff team.

545
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 2: They're a one and done to me. I think New

546
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 2: Orleans could win a playoff game. I actually think Seattle

547
00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 2: kind of could win a playoff game. I Tampa with

548
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 2: a Banga Baker Mayfield. I don't know. So let's let's

549
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 2: kind of pivot over here to the AFC. So the

550
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,439
Speaker 2: biggest story of note Jay Glazer reporting that you know,

551
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 2: Belichick's gone, They're going to meet seven thirty Eastern time.

552
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 2: That's a four thirty am our time, that Belichick is

553
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 2: is going to meet with Robert Kraft. And you know,

554
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 2: Jay reporting he's gone. You know, I kind of look,

555
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 2: there's a term that states have used in the center

556
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 2: Midwest part of the country called the brain drain. When

557
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 2: your college graduates leave and they go to New York

558
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 2: in LA and San Francisco and the coast in Florida,

559
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 2: and it's called a brain drain, and your state gets

560
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 2: older people more reliant on social services, and the college

561
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 2: graduates young smart people leave. I think this is what

562
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 2: Belichick went through. Dante Scarnecki, a best online coach along

563
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 2: with Bill Callahan in the in the NFL, leaves, but

564
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 2: at the same time Brady leaves, Josh Daniels leaves and

565
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 2: Ernie Adams. You know, one of the smart guys upstairs.

566
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Speaker 2: You had a brain drain, and they were mostly mostly Dante,

567
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 2: Josh and the goat Tom on the offensive side of

568
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 2: the ball. And as a defensive coach. He's just not

569
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 2: equipped to be able to replace those. So what does

570
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 2: he do. He replaces a lot of people with what

571
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 2: he's familiar with. You know, a Son a Joe, Judge,

572
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 2: Matt Patricia. He replaces, not with the best on the market,

573
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Speaker 2: he replaces them as an older coach in his seventies,

574
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Speaker 2: on who he knows. And I think it was a

575
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 2: NFL brain drain he lost. I mean, Brady is playing chess.

576
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 2: McDaniels for all the negatives, Philip go to Daunte probably

577
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 2: the best o lineman coach. You know. I've talked to

578
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 2: multiple guys that had him. It's like Colin. It's just different.

579
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 2: And so I think I don't think Bill's great with

580
00:29:56,440 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 2: personnel the draft, but I just that's how it to

581
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 2: me is he's just not equipped to reboot this franchise offensively.

582
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 2: Is that too harsh? No?

583
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Speaker 1: I think there were two downfalls of him, and number one,

584
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Speaker 1: like you touched on his unwillingness to go outside the

585
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: Patriot way when it came to coaches. You know, Andy

586
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: Reid will hire a linebacker coach from Kentucky, right, I

587
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 1: mean he hired Sutton before he got Spagnola to be

588
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: his defensive coordinator, Eric b Enemy. They had never worked together.

589
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: He was a running back coach, bounced around different places.

590
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 1: He didn't know him. But he was willing to go

591
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 1: outside of just the people that he knows. And that

592
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you can't bring in people you're comfortable with.

593
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: Belichick is unwilling to do that, right, Look at this year,

594
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: he needed an offensive coordinator desperately. There are a million

595
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 1: Shanahan cronies all over the place working for them all.

596
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: He could have got one of those young guys and

597
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: just maybe tried to spice things up. Who do you

598
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Speaker 1: go with? Bill O'Brien? I mean, that's he was unwilling

599
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 1: to go. He didn't even entertain it was a lock,

600
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: Like who's going to be his offensive coordinator? Everyone's like

601
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien, Bill O'Brien, Bill O'Brien, and to me the

602
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 1: other thing. And this goes back to Brady. He is

603
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: Walsh two point zero right, sold a year early instead

604
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: of held on a year late. And he had wanted

605
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 1: a short Brady for a long time. Now he's Brady's

606
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: an all time outlier. So he was always going to

607
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: be wrong on shorting Brady as the stock. But he

608
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: did have Jimmy Garoppolo who he felt comfortable with and

609
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: he did not want to leave. But Brady, by winning

610
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: that Super Bowl and the power that he had at

611
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: the time until that nineteen season, Belichick got a little

612
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: more juice to do it. But Jimmy was gone, so

613
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: he had his I'm not saying Jimmy Garoppolo Steve Young,

614
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: He's clearly not. But he had his transition guy there

615
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 1: that he knows he could have played with and competed with,

616
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 1: because if he just had a capable quarterback. I mean,

617
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: how many games did Belichick lose this year? Like nine

618
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 1: to three? Ten to six. It's not because he doesn't

619
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: know what he's doing. His offense is a joke and

620
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: he has he can't change that, and he's unwilling to

621
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: hire Bobby Slowick or the next Shane Stiken. He's not

622
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: going to do that. He just refuses. To me, why

623
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 1: I like Bill Belichick somewhere else is because he could

624
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 1: just hire Josh McDaniels back because offensive coordinators available, which

625
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: is the patriot way he got. But we know they

626
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: work together. So to me, unwillingness to hire any coach

627
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: that has not started at twenty two, twenty three years old.

628
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: For Bill and to the quarterback transition, he just I mean,

629
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 1: he fucked it up and some of it was out

630
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: of his control. But once Jimmy left and he told

631
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: Brady to go, they didn't have an answer. Remember he

632
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: had to go with Cam Newton. And then he just

633
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: took mac Jones at fifteen. He don't take mac Jones

634
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: at fifteen, but he didn't have a choice, Like what

635
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 1: else was he He was desperate at the time, and

636
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 1: that was the other thing. They were never over the

637
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: Brady especially that's third part of the dynasty. They never

638
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: felt desperate, you know, they never got in desperate situations.

639
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: And that's what he's felt like the last several years,

640
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: just always signing guys for a lot of money. That's

641
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 1: he doesn't feel comfortable doing that. No quarterback situation. He

642
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: cut Bailey Zappy at the end of the preseason and

643
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: that guy played the half the season, So it tells

644
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: you what he thought of him to begin with. So

645
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 1: just yea, as usually it usually doesn't end well, right

646
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: Phil Jackson, Bill Belichicket, This's usually kind of how it ended.

647
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll.

648
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, you know you you'd said something earlier

649
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 2: staying in the AFC that I prefer offensive coaches. But

650
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 2: there is a history that if you have a top

651
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 2: defensive coach with a with a top eight nine quarterback

652
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 2: in his prime, you win a lot of Super Bowls.

653
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 2: So there's there's no question defensive coaches work. I mean,

654
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 2: Demiko Ryans gets the right quarterback, they have the balance.

655
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, so.

656
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 2: Over more yeah, yeah, I'm overwhelmingly four offensive coaches. But

657
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 2: I do think let's let's pivot now to the charger job.

658
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 2: So there's gonna be eight to nine openings. That's clearly

659
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 2: the best opening. I mean, hardball is not gonna look

660
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,719
Speaker 2: at seven of the nine. I mean he, I mean,

661
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 2: he's just not gonna He's not gonna look at seven

662
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 2: of the nine. So that tells you the only guy

663
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 2: with huge options, you know, stay in college, go to pro.

664
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 2: The guy that's gonna have fifteen million dollar offers at

665
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 2: both laces, or at least in the NFL, he's gonna

666
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 2: look number one. He'll look at the Raiders a little

667
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 2: because they do have some nice offensive pieces and they'll

668
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 2: give him an open checkbook. But he's gonna look at

669
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 2: the Chargers. So they got a left tackle, a weapon,

670
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 2: a couple edge rushers, though Khalil Mack's probably gone, they'll

671
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 2: keep Bosa and Justin Herbert. So in this instance, I

672
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 2: would like a head coach. You've tried with Anthony Lynn,

673
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 2: Mike McCoy, Brandon Staley. I do think they need a

674
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 2: head coach. So this is the this is the instance

675
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 2: that I would be comfortable with Dan Quinn, Tomlin, Vrabel

676
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 2: or Harball. I can make an argument John that Vrabel's

677
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 2: are really good choice here. So what the Chargers haven't

678
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 2: been forever since Marty Schottenheimer was there is physical Marty.

679
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 2: I mean I remember talking to Charger players and practices

680
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 2: are physical, They're brutal. This team doesn't have a physical component.

681
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 2: They've got the big names, the toughness, but they don't

682
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 2: play tough. If you had the option Vrabel, Belichick, Harball,

683
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 2: would you go Harball because I think Vrabel would get

684
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 2: a a lot of consideration.

685
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 1: For me, I would go or Jim Harbaugh on a heartbeat.

686
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 1: To me, he's the number He's the number one guy

687
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: in the market right now. I mean, he just you know,

688
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 1: he wins. He is an offensive guy, though he feels

689
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 1: much more like a defensive lineman or something. He just

690
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 1: he's a can't miss. I don't hate the Vrabel thing,

691
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: and I think there are a lot of parallels talking

692
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: to people that have been around for Abel, like Jim Harbaugh,

693
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 1: his bravado and alpha when he walks in a room,

694
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: sucks it all out and he intimidates a lot of people.

695
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 1: It's hard for gms, it'd be hard for the Spaniss

696
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,839
Speaker 1: like with Harbaugh, that these are big personalities and they're

697
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: big human beings, right so that they are intimidating guys.

698
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: You know, Vrabel if he leaves Tennessee, which clearly is

699
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 1: on the table. It's because he wants to leave because

700
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: he doesn't like things aren't going his way, Like he

701
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: wants control. It's part of what Jim's gonna want, right,

702
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 1: He's gonna want controls, what Belichick's had forever. It's what

703
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 1: Pete likes. So I think he would be a guy

704
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: that would make the Spanos is also a little uncomfortable,

705
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,399
Speaker 1: Like he's an uncomfortable guy. He's a Belichick guy. He's

706
00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 1: an Urban Meyer guy like Bill O'Brien. He thrives being uncomfortable.

707
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 1: But that's what the Chargers need. Like, let's face it,

708
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: they've kind of gone the comfortable route for a decade

709
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: now with some of these guys and it has not

710
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,240
Speaker 1: gone well. And I always get back to they've invested

711
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: all this money in the quarterback to not go Listen,

712
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 1: if you can't get Jim Harbo, if you get Mike Raball,

713
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: I'll give you a standing applause. I mean that's relative

714
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: to what you had. I mean you can't even compare

715
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: the two. You can't pay the quarterback two hundred million

716
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: dollars and not do everything humanly possible when it comes

717
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: to the coaching staff to go after the best and whatever.

718
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: If Rabele's gonna cost one hundred million dollars, because I'll

719
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: tell you this, if Rabel would be interested in Ohio State,

720
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: they probably fire Ryan Day tomorrow and give the Arabe

721
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty million dollars. So it's just he's

722
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 1: going to have options for a lot of money whether

723
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: he's you know, we could argue till we're blue in

724
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: the face how much these guys who cares? These are

725
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: line items when it comes to the amount of money this,

726
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: this media deals bringing them. This is not even profits.

727
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: This is just extra money to throw at people.

728
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean, if you look the NFL this

729
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 2: year paid like four hundred and twenty five million to

730
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 2: each team after it was all said and.

731
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 1: Done, the salary caps like two hundred ten million dollars.

732
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: You're not paying your scouts that much money. I'll promise

733
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: you that. So what a president costs two million dollars,

734
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 1: what does it really cost? It doesn't you know, I

735
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 1: mean to fill your whole building. You don't even have

736
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: that many people working for a full People don't realize,

737
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 1: like Dean Spanos or Robert Craft, how many people do

738
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 1: you actually have working for the team full time? Beside

739
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: your coaching staff and your players. Not as many as

740
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 1: you think. The doctors don't work full time, right, the trainers,

741
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 1: the scouts, presidents, some salespeople. But it's not some. This

742
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 1: isn't Microsoft. So when you say four hundred and twenty

743
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 1: million dollars, if your salary cap is two hundred and

744
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: twenty million dollars, you probably could pay the rest of

745
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: the building for ten to fifteen. I guess your coach

746
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 1: and stuff twenty five thirty million dollars. I mean you're

747
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 1: talking you could easily spend and make that thirty, make

748
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:47,240
Speaker 1: it fifty and not even see anything in your bank account.

749
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: So Dean, they have to with the quarterback, especially Sean

750
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: Payton's going nowhere, and Andy had the worst season, and

751
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: you know, Chiefs in like a decade for the Chiefs

752
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: and then they'll probably win a playoff game. Shows you

753
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 1: where they're at. They're not going away, so that the

754
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: Chargers better not scure around. And the Raiders. I do

755
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: believe Mark Mark shown if he sits with Harrorball, he's

756
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,720
Speaker 1: not gonna be just sitting with him to have a sandwich.

757
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 1: I mean he's he's willing to pay. He gave John

758
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,359
Speaker 1: grew to a hundred million dollars seven years ago before

759
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:16,919
Speaker 1: hundred million dollars for getting given out.

760
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 2: Yes, you know, it's it's really interesting about the Chargers job.

761
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 2: Obviously you're gonna have Payton in it. I'm gonna have

762
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,879
Speaker 2: Andy reading it. You know. So you got you're gonnap again.

763
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 2: Some you know, brilliant guys. But the best job openings

764
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 2: in recent years Matt Lafleura got Aaron Rodgers Late Prime.

765
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 2: But Aaron's a lot of work and you have no owner,

766
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 2: and it's a bad free agent city. And that's about

767
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 2: as good a job opening is. You get Aaron late Prime.

768
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 2: Dallas McCarthy's a pretty good job, but it's a semi

769
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 2: meddaling owner and Dak's limited. This job, I get an

770
00:38:54,000 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 2: a quarterback, a non medaling owner, a team that spent

771
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 2: money on Bosa Khalil, Mack Jackson, the corner that whiffed.

772
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 2: This is about as good a job I mean. And

773
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,760
Speaker 2: the other thing that's interesting.

774
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: John Salary Cap has some issues.

775
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 2: They're gonna move off the one James Clear. They know

776
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 2: that they're gonna have to hit on some draft picks.

777
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 2: The other thing that cannot be dismissed a it's a

778
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 2: good coaching market. Rabels out there, potentially Belichick's out there. Hardballs.

779
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: You have these.

780
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 2: Years where like Dan Quinn with the Dallas Cowboys is

781
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 2: the best candidate available. Who's a good candidate. He didn't

782
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 2: win much without Kyle Shanahan. But this has to be considered.

783
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 2: The Chargers have the fifth spot, so this is a quarterback,

784
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 2: left tackle, and edge rush heavy first round. They don't

785
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 2: need any of them. They've got a Bosa. They got

786
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 2: the Tully kid from USC so they have two defensive linemen.

787
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 2: They love that. Chargers could move down two spots. Tennessee

788
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 2: could move up to where the Chargers are. You get

789
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 2: a third round pick, a second third round pick. This

790
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 2: has draft capital you gotta get. You gotta work your

791
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 2: way through some salary cap stuff. Quarterback, left tackle, weapon,

792
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 2: edge rusher, non meddling family John. I'm trying not to

793
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 2: be a Southern col homer. This is a really good

794
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 2: job opening well, like for Dallas.

795
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 1: For example, for Mike, that's a pressure cooker, right if

796
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,359
Speaker 1: something were at Sirianni, he's gonna get eaten alive if

797
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: this goes bad, right, Green Bay, that's an intense job.

798
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: You better win there or you'll get run a Chargers

799
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: kind of under the radar. I mean they stuck with

800
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: Brandon Staley after last year. I'll promise you the Philadelphia

801
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 1: Eagles would not have Jerry Jones probably fires him after

802
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: that situe. He's getting fired in a lot of places.

803
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: So you could argue just under the radar job. We

804
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: talk about him a lot because we love the quarterback,

805
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 1: but in terms of they don't matter that much in

806
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 1: the market, right Their brand for like television ratings isn't

807
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: that important. Their owner just they would pay. They'd have

808
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 1: no problem giving fifteen million dollars if you can just

809
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: guarantee him like back to back playoff appearances. I mean,

810
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 1: that's all the turn that they just can't get to

811
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: the playoffs back to back years. So if you factor

812
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: that in the expectations. The other thing with the quarterback

813
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: is like there aren't questions, right, good kid, elite talent,

814
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 1: has already proven that he can succeed in the NFL,

815
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: right productive, you know, successful in terms of throwing touchdowns,

816
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,479
Speaker 1: can make all the throws he's been durable. There aren't

817
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: really question marks with the guy. Like sometimes like at

818
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:27,320
Speaker 1: the Eagles job became available. It's like, is Jaling that good?

819
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,280
Speaker 1: You know, is he truly a forty five to fifty

820
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,760
Speaker 1: million I think some guys would ask he would have people,

821
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 1: They would be interested, but it would be somewhat risky.

822
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: Rights He's done it one year where you've seen really

823
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,439
Speaker 1: since Herbert showed up, he was really good. And that's

824
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: with guys constantly in and out of the lineup.

825
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:44,720
Speaker 2: And bad coaching.

826
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you ever could just get some consistency with

827
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: his offensive personnel, this guy would be the limit. So yeah,

828
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I think we knew that John Payton wanted

829
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 1: the job last year. They just wouldn't get off friends

830
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,280
Speaker 1: salely and they probably at the time weren't quite mentally

831
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: ready that they.

832
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 2: They acknowledge they I've talked to multiple people with the Chargers.

833
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 2: They acknowledge they should have run him out. They do

834
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 2: now it's a mistake. And he was, you know, the classics,

835
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 2: always smartest guy.

836
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: In the room.

837
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 2: They were getting annoyed with him. He'd done some weird

838
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 2: analytics stuff, but you know, he got to the playoffs,

839
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 2: and you know for the Chargers that you know that

840
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 2: was at the time enough. But I think the Chargers

841
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 2: are the first to acknowledge, Hey, we should have probably

842
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 2: moved off him last year. By the way, it's not

843
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 2: the worst thing in the world given a coach, a

844
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 2: young coach, thinking he'll grow into it. Most people thought

845
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 2: he would grow into it. They lose the opener to

846
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 2: Miami in that wild shootout, and you're like, okay, that's

847
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 2: that's okay to Miami's got a good offense. But by

848
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 2: week three, four five, you're like, God, they're giving up

849
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 2: chunks of yards to bad quarterbacks. So I don't crush

850
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 2: the Chargers for that. But in a strange way, it's

851
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 2: a better coaching market this year for the Chargers, and

852
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 2: so they worked in their favor.

853
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 1: The one thing that worries me with the way we're

854
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 1: going in the sense of how much coaches cost. Right,

855
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: you're paying fifteen, seventeen, eighteen million dollars for these guys.

856
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: The GM is basically just a player personnel guy. He's

857
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 1: GMing title only. And let's face it, a lot of

858
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: coaches struggle in the draft because they view that. It's

859
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: hard for them to not have, you know, like an

860
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 1: instant gratification view of a guy. Can this guy helped

861
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 1: me immediately instead of kind of the twenty thousand foot

862
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: view that usually personnel people are better at well, once

863
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,959
Speaker 1: I start paying fifteen seventeen, eighteen million dollars, the coach

864
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: has all the juice. And that's just it's just a situation.

865
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: And listen, Kyle Shanahan had it, but John proved himself

866
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 1: and they became a balance. Andy Reid, John Dorsey, Brett Veach.

867
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 1: He listens to those guys. Even Pete over the years

868
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: has when he's listened to John, they've done well in

869
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: the draft. And a lot of these coaches, like is

870
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 1: they able to listen to anybody? If you give him

871
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 1: sixteen million dollars a year, Jim, what's unique? He's going

872
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 1: to know all these kids. So in the draft he's

873
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 1: more prepared like Pete is. So you feel a little

874
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: comfortable for like the first couple of years. It's why

875
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 1: Pete set themselves up on that run. But a lot

876
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: of NFL coaches I got news free aren't the greatest

877
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: personality evaluators. And you talk to these jams sometimes they

878
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 1: butt heads with these guys like I can't talk this

879
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 1: guy out of this player. But once you start paying

880
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: that guy sixteen million dollars. Who's the owner going to

881
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 1: side with right? I mean, he's paid employee. There's only

882
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 1: probably a couple of players on the team that are

883
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 1: gonna be making more than some of these coaches.

884
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 2: All right, so we've broken down the NFC. I do

885
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 2: want to spend a few minutes on Michigan Washington. So

886
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 2: because this was the last year the four team playoff,

887
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,959
Speaker 2: they're moving transitioning to twelve teams. I didn't have any

888
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 2: problem leaving Florida State out. You know, you didn't have

889
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 2: to answer for years about it anymore. Their final thing was,

890
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 2: let's just get these four teams in. We think that

891
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 2: the best teams, along with Georgia. But Georgia lost the

892
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:54,720
Speaker 2: last game, and say, levit, that's life. I loved how

893
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 2: Washington matched up against Texas, and I did pick Michigan

894
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 2: narrowly Alabama. The line movement is telling me that the

895
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 2: wise guys are on Michigan. I do like Michigan ball

896
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 2: controlling Washington here, although I think Washington because I don't

897
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 2: think any college team has three good corners. So I

898
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 2: just think Washington's going to be able to score, and

899
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 2: especially if they're scoring late and Michigan's protecting a ten

900
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 2: point lead. Washington's really going to move the ball down

901
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 2: the field, so Michigan has to be an aggressive team.

902
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 2: You cannot take your foot off the gas with Washington's coach,

903
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 2: their quarterback, So let's start with that. I like Michigan

904
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 2: sort of thirty twenty six. I think the line's appropriate,

905
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 2: but I do like Michigan, and there's going to be points.

906
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 2: It will not be Texas Washington. It won't look like that.

907
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 2: It'll be much more physical, much more between the twenties,

908
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 2: more field goals. But what say you on the prediction,

909
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 2: I'll take Michigan.

910
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:53,839
Speaker 1: Well, you're talking to the biggest Husky fan here, because

911
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: when I went to DraftKings and they said they all

912
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,280
Speaker 1: listened to the podcast, I might have spread one thousand

913
00:45:58,320 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: dollars on them seven to one. So I'm rooting for

914
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: them now. If I had to bet after the Texas game, like,

915
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: I'm not betting on this individual game, I just took

916
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: it because of the value. And Joel Klatt I heard

917
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 1: him on your show. This Michigan team built themselves for

918
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,800
Speaker 1: that CJ. Stroud explosive Ohio State team, so they're built

919
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 1: to handle this now listen, this is Jim Harbaugh. To me,

920
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 1: is never going to get a better opportunity to win

921
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: a championship, and that might come even when he makes

922
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 1: it back to the NFL in the Super Bowl. I mean,

923
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 1: he's a favored against a team that he clearly should beat. Now,

924
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: the difference is the Big Ten's pretty bad. I mean,

925
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: as we had time after the ball season, Ohio State's

926
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 1: quarterback out ran out of town. Penn State's quarterback, who

927
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 1: I heard for three years was the next Josh Allen

928
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: was awful. Who's the best quarterback they played this year?

929
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 1: Tua Brother? I mean, yeah, I think so. It's not

930
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,879
Speaker 1: Alabama's guy. So the only saving grace, while I feel

931
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: kind of good at least having a chance, is like

932
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: this offense is pretty special. I mean, Penix is when

933
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 1: the dust. Unless his knee doesn't check out at the

934
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 1: combine like it's a degenerate knee. I don't see how

935
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 1: he doesn't get drafted really high. And if he goes

936
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: on and lights these guys up, even if they lose,

937
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: I mean, you're talking about a big time NFL quarterback prospect,

938
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 1: and he has elite wide receivers now, Michigan has NFL DB's,

939
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 1: but they have three NFL wide receivers, one guy who's

940
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:22,839
Speaker 1: gonna go in the top fifteen, top twenty. The other

941
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,479
Speaker 1: two are going on day two and they're all big.

942
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: They all have great catching radiuses. Their coach. The reason

943
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 1: I loved and I told you this last week Washington

944
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 1: against Texas. I just thought it was a huge coaching mismatch.

945
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: Well this, yeah, I mean, Harbaugh's the real deal.

946
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 2: I mean this is and they have a great DC.

947
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 1: They have a great DC who's an NFL guy. They

948
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 1: have Sharon Moore, who's a Bob Stoops guy who's really good.

949
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: I mean, they Harbaugh. One thing about Jim Harbaugh, his

950
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 1: staff is always good. You know, John can go through

951
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: ups and downs a little harder than the NFL. Jim

952
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: staff from the moment he got to Stanford was a leak.

953
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 1: So there's no coaching mismatch like honestly, do Boor and

954
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 1: Grubb are gonna have to have a great game. They

955
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: had a good game. Obviously they kind of fell apart

956
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 1: at the end. But can Pennix was heven sacked eleven times?

957
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: Can they get to them? Because if they don't, then

958
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 1: to me, Washington will have a chance if they're peppering them.

959
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 1: Remember Oregon in the game you were at up in Washington,

960
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:14,839
Speaker 1: they start peppering him in the second half. I think

961
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 1: that's when he heard his ribs, and over the next

962
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 1: month he wasn't the same. But Oregon easily could have

963
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: won that game because they started mullywopping him like every

964
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: other play, crushing him. And to me, Michigan's kind of

965
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 1: built to do that if they can avoid that. The

966
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 1: other thing Washington's really good at, like this running back,

967
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: let's say he's not even close to sixty percent. They

968
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 1: can generate runs with a quick passing game, which is

969
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 1: basically the same thing. That's what Andy Reeves always said, Like,

970
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: I can run these in Kyle, these quick screens that

971
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 1: basically are eighty ninety percent completion percentage even if we

972
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 1: get four or five yards, keeps the clock going and

973
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 1: operates out as a run. And they start doing that

974
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 1: against Texas, and no team takes those quick little screens

975
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:53,439
Speaker 1: and just gains seven eight yards like Washington. So they're

976
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 1: gonna have to hit those and obviously the big plays,

977
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 1: which are gonna be harder than some of the games

978
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 1: they've played. But I give Washington chance just because of

979
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 1: their offensive personnel and defensively, I mean, Trice is an

980
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 1: NFL guy. If you know, the Michigan's tackles aren't great.

981
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 1: Their interior offensive lines to leap, but their tackles. But

982
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 1: is Harball liable to have forty five rushing attempts? Like,

983
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 1: we ain't even throw it because he is?

984
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 2: Yeah? You know a side note to this. If Harbaugh

985
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 2: Jettison's Michigan exits the college football do you know who

986
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 2: the number one candidate for the Michigan job is?

987
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 1: Would have to be Kaylen de boor, right.

988
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 2: Kaylen de Borer. I read it today. So and what's

989
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 2: interesting is, here's what's interesting. I was told a week

990
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 2: ago that if and Ryan Day shouldn't be dismissed, but

991
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 2: if he was, Ohio State would hire Kaylen de Bor.

992
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 2: So here's what's interesting. This is where Ohio State's and

993
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,800
Speaker 2: kind of screwed. Either got to face Harbaugh going forward,

994
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 2: or they're going to make a bid for Kaylin de

995
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,720
Speaker 2: boor they may also make a bid for Ben Johnson

996
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 2: with the Lions. Although you know, no, I would take

997
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 2: Caitlin de Bore. But I will say this about a

998
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 2: college football, and you know John, Years and years ago,

999
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 2: when I was at ESPN, I had told some of

1000
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 2: the upper management. I said, you guys should go buy UFC.

1001
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 2: I said, you're living in your Red Sox tunnel Yankees.

1002
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 2: I said UFC is catching fire in Vegas. And they

1003
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 2: just thought it was too violent. You know, you look

1004
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 2: up now. They could have had that thing for four

1005
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 2: hundred million. It sold for six billion. Years ago I

1006
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 2: met Don Garber, MLS commissioner, and I told him, I said,

1007
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:38,479
Speaker 2: I would love to get a piece of an MLS team.

1008
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,760
Speaker 2: Couldn't afford it. You know, it's Tony Robbins, Magic Johnson,

1009
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 2: you know Will Ferrell. You can't own stock ownership in

1010
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 2: college football. But I do believe we are. Next year

1011
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 2: will be the start of an almost revolution of college football,

1012
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 2: sort of overtaking baseball and the NBA. We're sitting on

1013
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 2: this playoff format, which we've known. You and I are

1014
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 2: college football junkies, we've known forever. Can we just have

1015
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:10,720
Speaker 2: a twelve sixteen teamer?

1016
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 1: Right?

1017
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 2: And I pushed back for years on it because my

1018
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 2: argument was always, hey, there's never been a team with

1019
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 2: two to three losses in college football. Though LSU once

1020
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 2: one and once got to a Natty. I think with

1021
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 2: two losses Alabama, there's never been a team in college

1022
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 2: football with two losses that I thought that's the best

1023
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,800
Speaker 2: team in the country. But in retrospect, that's not the point.

1024
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 2: The point is we love tournaments, and they're fair and

1025
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 2: they're weird and they give you great drama. I think

1026
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 2: not only is college football a stock to buy if

1027
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 2: it was if it's a twelve dollars stock, it's twenty

1028
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:49,800
Speaker 2: four next year. But I also think the college football

1029
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 2: playoff is going to become March Madness on steroids. It's

1030
00:51:56,320 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 2: going to be NFL playoffs and college football playoffs everything

1031
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 2: else in sports, like like NBA, you know, everything else domestically.

1032
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 2: That's my take on what's gonna happen. Just am I hyperbolic?

1033
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,320
Speaker 2: Am I over the top because I do love college football?

1034
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 2: But I feel like, guys, it's a whole new world

1035
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 2: next year in college football.

1036
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:18,439
Speaker 1: Well, imagine if we would have had the twelfth team

1037
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 1: or this year Ole Miss and Oregon and some of

1038
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: these teams that could have made some noise and just

1039
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:25,959
Speaker 1: made the whole thing really interesting. I don't know where

1040
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 1: you stand on Jim I'm hoping he stays because the

1041
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 1: NFL doesn't need him, right historic ratings, They could have

1042
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,399
Speaker 1: me and you coaching teams to get thirty million people

1043
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 1: watching if you put it on Monday Night football. I

1044
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 1: think he's better for college football, right, college sports, in

1045
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 1: my entire college basketball when I was a kid in

1046
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: the nineties was huge. The coaches were really famous, right Tark,

1047
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:49,439
Speaker 1: Roy Williams, all these guys, And obviously college football has

1048
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 1: was like that then, but even more now with the Sabans,

1049
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 1: the Kirby's, Jim Harbaugh, Lincoln Riley. So I hope he stays.

1050
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 1: And luckily financially, there was always a big gap why

1051
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 1: guys would leave because the colleges could never match. It's

1052
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 1: the NFL money. Now, if Michigan wanted to pay him

1053
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 1: fifteen million dollars a year, they easily could. And that video,

1054
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 1: Like I don't have kids yet, you do. I do

1055
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: think sometimes you lean towards certain kids. Clearly his parents

1056
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 1: love Jim a little more than John. Now, Jim's a

1057
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 1: little I think, closer to Jack personality wise than John's

1058
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:19,359
Speaker 1: a little more normal from what I've been told, even

1059
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 1: though all the harbor is a little crazy. I do

1060
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 1: wonder the thing he has going with his parents living

1061
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 1: close to him, what he has in Michigan. I'm keeping

1062
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 1: my fingers crossed. I hope he stays. And I've rooted

1063
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 1: for Jim Harbaugh every game he's coached in Stanford up

1064
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 1: until tomorrow night, when I'm gon root for the Huskies.

1065
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 1: I think he's better at Michigan right now. I'm not

1066
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 1: going to complain if he comes to the pros, but

1067
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,240
Speaker 1: I do think there's something pretty special that team. The team,

1068
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 1: the team, the thing that goes with both, that stuff

1069
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 1: really means something to Jim. It's why that I think

1070
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 1: that the Raiders have a shot at Jim, because I

1071
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:54,280
Speaker 1: think the Al Davis, the alumni, like Jim is. He's

1072
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 1: a football nerd, like this is it's all he thinks about,

1073
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 1: twenty four, his family in football, and that type stuff.

1074
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 1: Al Davis, Bill Walsh, like this is all these guys

1075
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,399
Speaker 1: want to talk about and be around. So I hope

1076
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 1: Jim stays because, like you said, college football is clearly

1077
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 1: the number two sport in America, and you have some

1078
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 1: nights where it's like, what are the games last week?

1079
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 1: We're doing like twenty five million people that the first crazy,

1080
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 1: So it was crazy in Michigan. How many teams in

1081
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:24,359
Speaker 1: the NFL are bigger brand than Michigan football. Well tend

1082
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:25,280
Speaker 1: stand this for years.

1083
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 2: If now you have two recruiting cycles in college, which

1084
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 2: it really does, it's a regressive lifestyle.

1085
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 1: That's what's driving him away. To me, the NIL, the

1086
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 1: transfer portal, something of that.

1087
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 2: But and I think there's they're putting up more and

1088
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 2: more guardrails on it. But I've been saying this from

1089
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 2: the beginning there. If I had Patrick Mahomes, the NFL

1090
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 2: is better than Michigan Dallas cowboy job potentially is better

1091
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 2: than Michigan boyd And it ends right around there. Again,

1092
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow always hurt a lot. Buffalo. I don't want

1093
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:01,359
Speaker 2: to live there, Love you, Buffalo. But Ann Arber's I'm

1094
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 2: going to live there. Michigan when it's rolling is especially

1095
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 2: for a Michigan man. I just don't think they're five.

1096
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:10,799
Speaker 2: I've always said this, if.

1097
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 1: Well, do you have coach at the forty nine ers already?

1098
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 1: How many jobs are bigger than forty nine ers and

1099
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 1: you got right out of town five maybe not even No.

1100
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 2: I mean the Niners have great city. Some generational pressure

1101
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:26,479
Speaker 2: because of their success. York's a pretty good owner, Lynch

1102
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,240
Speaker 2: is an excellent GM, So there's a handful that are better.

1103
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 2: I do think eventually college football has to figure out,

1104
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 2: and I think they will over time with a twelve

1105
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:40,240
Speaker 2: team playoff a schedule maker, and there'll be a little

1106
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 2: more reasonable, a fairness where the SEC guys are scheduling

1107
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:47,399
Speaker 2: Citadel four times a year. PAC twelve was always much

1108
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 2: more courageous on their schedules. But I just don't think.

1109
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 2: I think when you get to these Texas like sark Now,

1110
00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 2: you may be disappointed and there's some pressure, but they're

1111
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,359
Speaker 2: pressure from impulse of billionaire owners. How many jobs are

1112
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 2: better than Texas. I gotta live in Austin, Texas, and.

1113
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 1: I get a alumni base willing to cut huge checks

1114
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 1: to stock my roster. How many teams in the SEC

1115
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 1: have more money than him? News flash, none. So it's

1116
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 1: like Sarcaz. You could argue now financially him USC Ohio State.

1117
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 1: I mean, you could argue that college football is even

1118
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 1: going to separate more and more. You know, these SEC

1119
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 1: teams and all the money coming in has separated over

1120
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 1: the last decade. All their sports are better now college basketball.

1121
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 1: Their basketball programs are paying six seven million dollars to

1122
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 1: their basketball coaches. So and the Big Ten is going

1123
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 1: to be like that too. The thing is to me,

1124
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 1: once you get at Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State, Michigan, you

1125
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 1: always the transfer portal a guy. You know, every player

1126
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 1: is a free agent twenty four seven, three sixty five,

1127
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,439
Speaker 1: but you are more likely to keep them at those

1128
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 1: schools because you have the mechanisms in place to pay

1129
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 1: them and it's such a special place. Like if you're

1130
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 1: a Recher freshman, you walk out at the University of Georgia, Universe,

1131
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 1: Ohio State, or Michigan, You're like, this is where i'd

1132
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 1: want to play. You're going to transfer like Syracuse you know,

1133
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 1: no Jims. So when you see those transfers happening, it's

1134
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 1: pretty clear. Ohio State told the quarterback you're not going

1135
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:08,880
Speaker 1: to be the starter next year. He didn't transfer because

1136
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 1: you know, he was mad they told him you're not

1137
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 1: good enough. And that's the one thing that I wonder

1138
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: if coaches get a little tired of just having to

1139
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 1: deal with all that. And maybe that's Jim obviously the

1140
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 1: NC DOUBLEA. But Jim's crazy enough that I could see

1141
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 1: him like the NC DOUBLEA whatever. I don't even give

1142
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 1: a shit about them.

1143
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, John Middlecoff, former NFL scout three and out. This

1144
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 2: is so much fun. We've got a Sunday podcast event

1145
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Speaker 2: scheduled for the foreseeable future. I absolutely love doing it.

1146
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 2: By the way, for our listeners, we'll have Nick right

1147
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 2: on my Tuesday podcast, which will air Tuesday live on

1148
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 2: YouTube or Wednesday on our podcast network. The Volume, so

1149
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 2: John is always it's money. I'm gonna go watch the

1150
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 2: Bills Dolphins game. I like Buffalo, but I don't love

1151
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 2: him Dolphins. You know, once you lose Bradley Chubb Phillips out,

1152
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 2: they're not going to engineer the kind of pass rush

1153
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 2: and I think that really limits I think when they

1154
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 2: had a pass rush that was healthy and the offense dangerous.

1155
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 2: Team don't love them. Now we saw they got wrecked

1156
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 2: by Baltimore. So I'm going to go watch that. As always, John,

1157
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 2: appreciate it.

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