1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: Guys, how are you like any rosters? 2 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 2: No, just one player, Kyle Dugar will be questionable. But 3 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 2: other than that pretty quiet. Did you do a lot 4 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 2: of pre draft work on Jenkins and you know, how 5 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 2: is how do you see him as approach? Well, I 6 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 2: think that the only thing that matters is what we've 7 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 2: seen of him as a pro and uh physical runner, 8 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 2: good vision, runs hard, breaks a lot of tackles and 9 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 2: uh I was really doing a good job for him. 10 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 2: Seem uh disruptive young player, very athletic, very good scheme 11 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 2: fit for them. 12 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: It doesn't stay blocked long. 13 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 2: I mean really really active and just good flexibility, good 14 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 2: athletics ism for for a guy that that size, you know, 15 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 2: I mean there's you know, being that big and being 16 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 2: able to be athletic and move and stay on your feet. 17 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 2: And you know, he does a nice job of not 18 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:13,199 Speaker 2: staying blocked very long. 19 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: Had a strong face knowledge. 20 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,199 Speaker 3: But how much of the last year of the Browns 21 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 3: teaching about offensive game? 22 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 2: Uh? 23 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I learned. I learned a lot. 24 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 2: I mean I learned just as far as just different 25 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:31,119 Speaker 2: schemes or different you know, techniques working with Tommy and 26 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,119 Speaker 2: you know, Kevin or Chad o'shay about you know, third 27 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 2: downs or you know, everybody's got things that they believe in. 28 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 2: About coaching, I think that's the biggest thing is that 29 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 2: it's what you believe and it's what you can get 30 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:44,919 Speaker 2: the players to believe in. There's a lot of different 31 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 2: ways to do things, a lot of different ways to 32 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 2: run run zone or to have a six man protection 33 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 2: or anything like that. It's just it's having a belief 34 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 2: in something. But then also you know, getting the players 35 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 2: to believe in it. So you know, there were things 36 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 2: that they did that obviously I liked or that was 37 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 2: new for me from an experience of being in Tennessee 38 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 2: or being around different offenses. 39 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 3: What would you see the core offensive philosophical differences between 40 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 3: the West Coast and what you guys. 41 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 2: Are doing here. Just really focused on Cleveland and differences 42 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 2: of philosophic you know, I mean we run a lot 43 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 2: of different plays everybody. You look around the league and 44 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 2: there's a lot of plays that are similar. They're called 45 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 2: something different, they got different wrinkles to it. But you know, 46 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 2: what I believe in is fundamentals of blocking, tackling, you know, 47 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 2: protecting the quarterback, catching the ball. You know, breaking tackles, 48 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 2: ball security plays or plays. 49 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: It's about the players. 50 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:46,679 Speaker 3: Yes, it's very you're just stritting. 51 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: Or highlighted kind of Williams just his abilities to kind of. 52 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 3: Learn special tis a little bit more. 53 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 2: Just what have you seen from him in that area 54 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 2: working as a returners catching ball. He's worked as gunner, 55 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 2: worked as you know, sometimes you get those receivers that 56 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 2: you know have good releases at the line of scrimmage 57 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 2: or have some speed and you know, some balance or 58 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 2: contact courage with guys. You know, that's sometimes a pretty 59 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 2: you know, tough position out there as a gunner or 60 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 2: you like it as a plus fifty and to go 61 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:19,959 Speaker 2: down there. So he's been working some of that and 62 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 2: understanding those details or being a corner on a you know, 63 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 2: he's very willing. You know, that's the thing that's as 64 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 2: long as they're willing, you know, we'll we'll coach them 65 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 2: and teach them. And you know, so Chase was on 66 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 2: a's been as a receiver, been on a kickoff team 67 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 2: for us, and it's done to some of those things. 68 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: So whether it's Chairs or Kyle or any young player, 69 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: see if you get has been tested, you know, probably 70 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: here the last two three weeks is how please have 71 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: you been with that show? Yeah? 72 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 2: Man, I'm confident in everybody that's at that position to 73 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 2: go in there and be ready to go to execute, 74 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 2: understand and prepare as a starter each and every week. 75 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 2: I think that that's hard to do. You know, maybe 76 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 2: if you haven't had some action or talking about somebody 77 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 2: that's on the practice squad at different positions that we've 78 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 2: had that we've called up. Try to get everybody on 79 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 2: the roster each and every day and Nietschen every week 80 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 2: to prepare as a starter, just knowing that you could 81 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 2: get called up, things could happen, and so that we 82 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 2: try to do that every position. 83 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 3: What are your pass rush members? In terms of pressure 84 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 3: eight have been a lot better and stared downs than 85 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 3: first and seconds. 86 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 2: Just kind of curious if you have any thoughts on 87 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 2: that discrepancy. 88 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: Or why that might be. Uh. 89 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 2: You, we just have to do a better job of transitioning, 90 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 2: you know, some of the play actions and you know, 91 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 2: recognizing the opportunities to rush and to affect the quarterback. 92 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 2: And you know, we we haven't given up the amount 93 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 2: of explays that we have, but we probably have given 94 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 2: up you know, the quarterbacks probably not held onto the 95 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 2: ball as long, and so you create longer yarded situations 96 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 2: on third down, and sacks can be funny. I mean, 97 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 2: we have, however many we have on offense for like 98 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 2: twenty five yards. You know what I'm saying. We've got 99 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:15,679 Speaker 2: our sack numbers if you just looked at the numbers 100 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 2: aren't great, but the amount of yardage that we've actually 101 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 2: lost because if the quarterback runs out of bounds for 102 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 2: no gain, apparently sometimes it goes down as a sack. 103 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 2: I wish I had more of those twenty years ago, 104 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 2: but I didn't, and so we just have to transition. 105 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 2: We got to get into the pocket and recognize, you know, 106 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 2: those opportunities to rush on first and second down that 107 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 2: are there when when we see that and there's indicators. 108 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: So how did you start with dogs? 109 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 2: That's brought. I've always enjoyed being around him. His professional 110 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 2: he understands. I think he is good for the quarterback, 111 00:05:55,960 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 2: good for Drake, good for Tommy, and he's prepared. And 112 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 2: you know we've as much as we've talked about those 113 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 2: practices on Thursday or our red zone and on Friday, 114 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 2: and those are competitive reps for everybody. I think that 115 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 2: those have been great reps for Josh and Tommy to 116 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 2: get during the season. 117 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: So I think that that's helped. 118 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 2: You know, you just don't get a whole lot of reps, 119 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 2: and so you have to use those as your preparation 120 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 2: reps and your game reps to read it out. And 121 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 2: you know, that's why we're not highlighting somebody and like 122 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 2: say throw the ball here. It's like throw to the 123 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 2: ball the guy that's open and play quarterback. And we 124 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 2: don't want to practice like that and say this is 125 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 2: what they're going to do. 126 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: We don't know what they're going to do. 127 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,239 Speaker 2: So I think those reps that he has in practice 128 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 2: really help them. And again, it''s good to see that 129 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 2: he was prepared last week to go in and execute 130 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 2: and help us. 131 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 4: We've asked you a lot about Drake sliding and protecting himself, 132 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 4: but how do you feel like he's developed in terms 133 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 4: of how new. 134 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 3: Books and he is comfort in the pocket. 135 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 1: Knowing when to leave when he has little take that time. 136 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: At this point this. 137 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 2: Season, I think it's improved. I think there sometimes maybe 138 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 2: a few weeks ago that he probably took off and 139 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 2: didn't need to. I think that we've worked on it. 140 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 2: I think that was some of the drills that I 141 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 2: saw Ashton working on with him. Probably don't want to 142 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 2: sit there and wait it out a whole lot this week. 143 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 2: This should probably not be a week to try that. 144 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 2: I would probably go one two and I'd probably look 145 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 2: for an exit strgedy with based on the. 146 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: Browns and their defense and the way they rush, So. 147 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 2: Just have to be I think conscious and again not 148 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 2: staring at the rush, but just having an internal clock 149 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 2: and knowing that you don't want to leave a clean pocket, 150 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 2: and if it looks dirty, then I'm going to trust 151 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 2: his judgment if it's somebody's flashing in there to extend 152 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 2: and be smart with the football. 153 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 3: It seems like there's been a lot of passers situations 154 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 3: where you guys are sending forward offenses or keeping guys 155 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 3: in shipping and things like that. Are there ways around 156 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 3: you where you can still affect the quarterback or are 157 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 3: you just kind of trusting your coverage from situations? 158 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 2: Well, I think that you have to kind of trust 159 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 2: what you've called. And again, if you live in the 160 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 2: world of man, then you can sit there and you know, 161 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 2: hug and add on against bigger people, which we've done 162 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 2: at times, and yeah, you know, again just trying not 163 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 2: to give up big plays, and I think that sacks 164 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 2: come in bunches. We have to do a better job 165 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 2: of effecting a quarterback. I'm not gonna say that we 166 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 2: need a certain amount of sacks. I think we need 167 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 2: to when they throw checkdowns be ready to come up 168 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 2: and tackle so that checkdowns aren't eight yard gains. Much 169 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 2: like that series that we referenced the other day, it 170 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 2: was second and whatever it was, Spelane makes a good 171 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 2: bang bang tackle coming out of his own coverage, makes 172 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 2: it third and one. We do a good job on 173 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 2: a coverage on a short yardage and then we get 174 00:08:56,120 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 2: a sack. So you know, it kind of just is 175 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 2: all going into letting each other help. And when the 176 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 2: ball gets out quickly and we are in zone coverage 177 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 2: that we're trusting, you know, the quarterback looking and the 178 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 2: quarterback read. What we can't have is the quarterback looking 179 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 2: over here patting it coming back over here. 180 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: That that system that can't work. 181 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 2: So you know, that would be one where we would 182 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 2: if we start to see that, then we have issues 183 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 2: with basically marrying the. 184 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 1: Rush and the coverage up. 185 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 2: If the quarterback could sit there, stare it down, pump it, 186 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 2: come back and do something over there. Mike. 187 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 4: Mike, you talk about like prepare every clarity would be 188 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 4: a starter, But do you also emphasized like keep improving 189 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 4: the roster. Just wondering like as the trick line of approach, 190 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 4: how do you balance keep improving the roster versus excoring 191 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 4: like external options. 192 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: Well, we'll always continue to try to do that. 193 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,839 Speaker 2: I would say that the players that are here, we 194 00:09:55,920 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 2: ask to prepare as a starter mentally so that they're 195 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 2: ready to go and they're not just checked out and 196 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 2: they're not just reading a card and that you you know, 197 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,439 Speaker 2: I mean again, our coaches will watch, they'll have breakfast 198 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 2: with those guys in the morning, our young coaches is 199 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 2: a great opportunity for them on Saturday morning to tell 200 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 2: those guys, hey, front seven. You know, Milt and Benny 201 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 2: will be in there watching their defensive snaps from the week, 202 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 2: grab some breakfasts, come in, have a little meeting before 203 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 2: they work out. Same as on offense, whether that's Koug's 204 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 2: or Riley or Chucky. To be able to get those 205 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 2: players in there so that they feel like there's feedback 206 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 2: and there's and they're getting coached the same way that 207 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 2: anybody else would. And then as far as the roster, 208 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 2: any opportunities that we have to improve it, whether that's 209 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 2: the practice squad or the fifty three man roster. 210 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: Will we'll probably always try to do that. You're a 211 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: no idle guy. Did you grow up last course? 212 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you don't grow up in northeast Ohio 213 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 2: and not be a brown standing you know, I have 214 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 2: no necklaces that are made of dog biscuits. 215 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:03,319 Speaker 1: I mean, of course I didn't, you know what I mean? 216 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: And so I lived that in Bernie Coz. All right. 217 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 2: So, and again I've said this a lot, but I appreciate, 218 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 2: appreciate the Hasl family, Jimmy and d Andrew Kevin. That 219 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 2: that staff, I mean, that was a you know, that 220 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 2: was a good experience for me. It was probably the 221 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 2: place where I was supposed to be last year. Allowed 222 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,439 Speaker 2: me to, you know, kind of reconnect with a lot 223 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 2: of different things as far as whether that's being background 224 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 2: home and seeing old friends and going to high school 225 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 2: football games, or spending more time with people that you 226 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 2: don't really spend a lot of time with during the season. 227 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: So thank you