1
00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:04,160
Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics,

2
00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:07,120
Speaker 1: where we discussed the top political headlines with some of

3
00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:11,399
Speaker 1: today's best minds, and a CNN poll says fifty eight

4
00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:15,200
Speaker 1: percent of Americans call the first year of Trump's second

5
00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,520
Speaker 1: term a failure. We have such a great show for

6
00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:22,360
Speaker 1: you today, the Jim Acosta Shows Jim Acosta Stopspy to

7
00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,920
Speaker 1: talk about Trumps no, about Peace Prize and how he

8
00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,680
Speaker 1: got it. Then we'll talk to Punchball News as John

9
00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:34,320
Speaker 1: Bresnahan about the chaos in Speaker Mike Johnson's Congress. But

10
00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:35,720
Speaker 1: first the news.

11
00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:39,480
Speaker 2: So mally data centers. They are one of the most

12
00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:42,279
Speaker 2: polarizing issues in our society right now because they drive

13
00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:46,080
Speaker 2: up electric bills. The Working Families Party is actively trying

14
00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:50,160
Speaker 2: to rebuild themselves by recruiting candidates who can talk well

15
00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,680
Speaker 2: about data centers. So now Trump and a bunch of

16
00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,560
Speaker 2: governors are talking about how the data centers are going

17
00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:57,360
Speaker 2: to have to pay for these power prices.

18
00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:03,160
Speaker 1: Yes, look, data centers suck and they're making everything more expensive.

19
00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:07,240
Speaker 1: Trump is obsessed with energy dominance, so he has an

20
00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:11,520
Speaker 1: Energy Dominance Council. A bipartisan group of governors are also

21
00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,600
Speaker 1: planning Friday to unveil a statement of purpose to address

22
00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,600
Speaker 1: rising prices in the nation's power grid. Here's what would

23
00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,600
Speaker 1: have made price is cheaper. Can you guess Jesse.

24
00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:24,640
Speaker 2: Not making AI slop videos all day of Jake Paul

25
00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,280
Speaker 2: grooming cats or whatever the hell will these kids do?

26
00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:32,759
Speaker 1: Or what about maybe just like not canceling solar.

27
00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:34,120
Speaker 3: And wind, Yes, that too.

28
00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,800
Speaker 1: If you're in a country that needs more energy and

29
00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:41,600
Speaker 1: you have these, they're not just cheap, they're basically free

30
00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,160
Speaker 1: sources of energy, and you shut them down because they're

31
00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,160
Speaker 1: too woke and decide that a better way to get

32
00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,760
Speaker 1: energy is to invade Venezuela. And this is where we are.

33
00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:56,800
Speaker 1: So administration officials and governors of the states of Pennsylvania, Ohio,

34
00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:00,400
Speaker 1: and Virginia that's two Democrats and one Republican are planning

35
00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:04,920
Speaker 1: to urge grid operators to hold an auction for tech

36
00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,560
Speaker 1: companies to bid on fifteen year contracts for new electricity

37
00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:12,480
Speaker 1: generation capacity. So basically what they're trying to do is

38
00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:16,160
Speaker 1: make tech companies pay for their electricity and not make

39
00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:20,440
Speaker 1: you pay for it. But my guess is that, like

40
00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:25,040
Speaker 1: anything in Trump world, I'll be very surprised if things

41
00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:29,000
Speaker 1: don't evolve into a lot of stupid because that's how

42
00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:32,519
Speaker 1: things go in Trump world. But we shall see, right,

43
00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:36,280
Speaker 1: we shall see what happens here. Look, it's good that

44
00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:41,360
Speaker 1: they see what's happening and that they want to focus

45
00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:46,280
Speaker 1: on it. It's good that they want to work on

46
00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,600
Speaker 1: energy prices as a major issue. And remember Donald Trump

47
00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,000
Speaker 1: said he was going to make everything much cheaper. Do

48
00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,760
Speaker 1: you remember that? I remember that? Hilarious.

49
00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:55,240
Speaker 3: I do.

50
00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,040
Speaker 2: And one of the more interesting things is I subscribe

51
00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,360
Speaker 2: to a bunch of local creddits, whether it's like my

52
00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,519
Speaker 2: old hometown or my neighborhood and some surrounding neighborhoods, And

53
00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:05,639
Speaker 2: the first of the month every month, what you see

54
00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,360
Speaker 2: is you could set your clock to posts going I

55
00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,640
Speaker 2: cannot believe my electric bill is even higher this month.

56
00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,799
Speaker 1: And it is because we're just doing a lot of

57
00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:17,239
Speaker 1: stupid crap in this country. So I do think we're

58
00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,600
Speaker 1: about to have a real big problem here when it

59
00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,880
Speaker 1: comes to energy prices. Tech companies have yet to ever

60
00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,160
Speaker 1: sort of follow any rules whatsoever. Part of that is

61
00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,680
Speaker 1: because there's been no regulation. Part of that is because

62
00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,400
Speaker 1: the legislators have just decided they don't want to legislate

63
00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,400
Speaker 1: at all. And so I'll be curious to see what

64
00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,640
Speaker 1: tech companies do now that they're being asked to follow

65
00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:42,320
Speaker 1: anything close to the rules.

66
00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:46,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking of not following the rules, So, mister Trump,

67
00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:50,080
Speaker 2: let Stephen Miller's fever dream of rounding up everyone with

68
00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:53,240
Speaker 2: pigment in their skin in this country run wild. And

69
00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:57,560
Speaker 2: now they've reportedly seen some internal GOP pulling that says

70
00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,800
Speaker 2: sixty percent of independent voters and fifty eight under side

71
00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,240
Speaker 2: of voters said Trump was too focused on deporting illegal immigrants,

72
00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:05,640
Speaker 2: and they're panicking.

73
00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:10,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, So there was a ton of really fucking amazing

74
00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:14,680
Speaker 1: polling that just came out, and this is just one

75
00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,760
Speaker 1: piece of it. But every single one of these polls

76
00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,760
Speaker 1: is terrible news for Trump world. Sixty this is an

77
00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,279
Speaker 1: internal poll, but there are public polls that are just

78
00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,800
Speaker 1: as bad an internal GOP polls, as sixty percent of

79
00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,920
Speaker 1: independents fifty eight percent of undecided too focused. He's underwater

80
00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:35,960
Speaker 1: on immigration, on crime, on the economy, on you know,

81
00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,640
Speaker 1: pretty much everything. I mean, I'm going to take a

82
00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,320
Speaker 1: moment here just to enlighten you.

83
00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,400
Speaker 2: Please enlighten me, because I've read these signs during the

84
00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,560
Speaker 2: election that said Kamala for crime Trump good.

85
00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,680
Speaker 1: So CNN poll seventy five percent of voters opposed to

86
00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:54,400
Speaker 1: US taking Greenland. Fifty percent of Republicans are in that okay,

87
00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,080
Speaker 1: so sixty percent think Trump is going too far to

88
00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:01,120
Speaker 1: expand US powers over other countries. Fifty eight opposed the

89
00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:05,200
Speaker 1: US controlling Venezuela. Fifty seven percent think Trump has hurt

90
00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,599
Speaker 1: America's standings in the world. I mean he is okay,

91
00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:13,640
Speaker 1: Donald Trump's here's a Marinist Paul from January twelfth to

92
00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:18,039
Speaker 1: the thirteenth. Okay, he is underwater. Registered voters negative eighteen,

93
00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:22,600
Speaker 1: adults negative eighteen, Democrats negative eighty three. Independence, he's down

94
00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:26,240
Speaker 1: thirty four percent, men, six percent, women twenty nine percent,

95
00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:30,680
Speaker 1: Black people thirty seven percent, Big city twenty eight percent.

96
00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:35,640
Speaker 1: The only group that he is not underwater with rural voters.

97
00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:36,800
Speaker 4: Yeap makes sense.

98
00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:40,320
Speaker 2: So one of the reasons he earned this approval rating

99
00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,760
Speaker 2: on his immigration policies is we saw this week that

100
00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:47,359
Speaker 2: an ICE agent threw a flashbang in a car with

101
00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,400
Speaker 2: six children, sending him to the hospital. And a report

102
00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,839
Speaker 2: has now come back that ICE killed an American citizen

103
00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:55,279
Speaker 2: and while holding them.

104
00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,760
Speaker 1: So that was one of the I think it's seven

105
00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:01,520
Speaker 1: people who have died this year detention, but I think

106
00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,240
Speaker 1: it might be since September. But you know, last week

107
00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:08,359
Speaker 1: they shot a white woman in the face, and she,

108
00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,440
Speaker 1: by the way, when ems got there. We've just learned

109
00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,200
Speaker 1: from the New York Times, she was.

110
00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:17,600
Speaker 2: Alive, and they blocked her from getting care when they arrived.

111
00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,279
Speaker 1: Well, they blocked the doctor who was trying to treat

112
00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,440
Speaker 1: her earlier from giving her care. So that means that

113
00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:28,880
Speaker 1: she really could have survived. Okay, so yeah, they shot

114
00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,240
Speaker 1: a protester in the leg and put six children in

115
00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,000
Speaker 1: the hospital. I talked to Governor Walls about that this

116
00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,760
Speaker 1: is a state where now there are like three people

117
00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,200
Speaker 1: for every ICE agent. I mean, they've sent many multiples

118
00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,400
Speaker 1: more ICE agents than they have to Chicago. And they're

119
00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:48,560
Speaker 1: doing this not because they're going to hunt smallly immigrants, right,

120
00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:52,320
Speaker 1: people who have protected statuses. And they're doing it because

121
00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:56,599
Speaker 1: of that dumb Nick Sually YouTube video about fraud that

122
00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:00,840
Speaker 1: was already prosecuted. I mean, it's just so stupid.

123
00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,320
Speaker 2: It was very un rigorous journalism.

124
00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:07,240
Speaker 5: It's also just been prosecuted, right, I mean, well, but

125
00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:09,960
Speaker 5: I mean, I mean it's in all the above situation

126
00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:14,120
Speaker 5: where one most journalists learn a few things about ethics.

127
00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,560
Speaker 2: I hate to say, after watching some interviews with this kid,

128
00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,920
Speaker 2: but I don't think he's up for the intellectual rigor

129
00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:23,200
Speaker 2: of the job because wasn't going so well anyway. There's

130
00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:25,640
Speaker 2: lots of talk that Trump is going to invoke the

131
00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:29,840
Speaker 2: Insurrection Act. He's saying talking about canceling elections. I know

132
00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:31,720
Speaker 2: that people want to hear from you what you think

133
00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:32,000
Speaker 2: of this.

134
00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,680
Speaker 1: Again, I don't want to do, like, what's he going

135
00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,080
Speaker 1: to do? What's he not going to do? Who the

136
00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,400
Speaker 1: fuck knows? It is Donald Trump? But I do think

137
00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,520
Speaker 1: that Donald Trump will do anything he can get away with.

138
00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,440
Speaker 1: That's what he keeps telling us in every which way.

139
00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:50,440
Speaker 1: So what needs to happen is Republicans. The ten Republicans

140
00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:54,200
Speaker 1: who are still not you know, complete cowards, and there

141
00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,880
Speaker 1: probably are like four of them, need to say, look,

142
00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,560
Speaker 1: we get it. We're not going to let him do

143
00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,360
Speaker 1: any of this shit. So you can't do the Interaction

144
00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:07,400
Speaker 1: Act and you can't cancel Midtrum elections. Now I think

145
00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:11,840
Speaker 1: he knows he can't because his press secretary said he

146
00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,240
Speaker 1: was kidding. And he was kidding is a defense that

147
00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:18,480
Speaker 1: Donald Trump often uses when he's gone a little too far,

148
00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:20,280
Speaker 1: and he knows he can't go any further with it.

149
00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:24,120
Speaker 1: But either way, Trump has already said he's going to

150
00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,200
Speaker 1: do the craziest stuff he can no matter what. So

151
00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,360
Speaker 1: you just have to assume that it's going to be.

152
00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:32,920
Speaker 1: You have to keep going, you have to push back,

153
00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:34,600
Speaker 1: you have to say no, you can't do this to

154
00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,200
Speaker 1: Donald Trump. And that's the only way. Otherwise people do

155
00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:44,760
Speaker 1: all of these things. Jim Acosta is the author of

156
00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,839
Speaker 1: The Substack That Jim Acosta Show and the New York

157
00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,800
Speaker 1: Times bestseller The Enemy of the People, A Dangerous Time

158
00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:55,040
Speaker 1: to Tell the Truth in America. Jim Acosta, I'm Mollie.

159
00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:56,080
Speaker 3: How you doing.

160
00:08:56,760 --> 00:09:00,560
Speaker 1: I'm good. We are our own. What were they like

161
00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,560
Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen photo? Right?

162
00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,920
Speaker 3: I know, I just did that thing and I was like, wow,

163
00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:07,120
Speaker 3: that was so nice.

164
00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:11,320
Speaker 1: I was really young looking back ten years ago. You

165
00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,280
Speaker 1: really see how much of your life you've given over

166
00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,640
Speaker 1: to Trump. Okay, so we're gonna talk about Renee Good

167
00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:20,600
Speaker 1: because everything we're seeing now is the actual evidence. It's

168
00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,680
Speaker 1: been a little bit more than a week and they've

169
00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:27,079
Speaker 1: gone through the videos, they've gone through the evidence, and

170
00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:32,120
Speaker 1: emergency workers found Renee Good with an irregular pulse when

171
00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,880
Speaker 1: they removed her from the vehicle, which means she was

172
00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:40,000
Speaker 1: alive when they came to her, which means that had

173
00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:46,199
Speaker 1: the doctor been allowed to treat her, she would have survived.

174
00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,160
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, and she shouldn't have been shot in the

175
00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,520
Speaker 3: first place. I mean we can say that. Yeah, I mean,

176
00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,080
Speaker 3: to me, this is looking more and more like the

177
00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:58,760
Speaker 3: US government murdered Renee Good. And what makes matters even

178
00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:03,800
Speaker 3: worse for DA and this particular officer is that it

179
00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,680
Speaker 3: appears that there might have been some moments to save

180
00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:07,160
Speaker 3: her life.

181
00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:07,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

182
00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,240
Speaker 3: And if that is the case, that is that is

183
00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,160
Speaker 3: just so damning. And that is why there has to

184
00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,440
Speaker 3: be an independent investigation. There can't be one of these

185
00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:19,600
Speaker 3: cash betel wink wink, nod, nod. You know, the ice

186
00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:24,280
Speaker 3: officer didn't do anything wrong. Absolute immunity bullshit deals. I

187
00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,199
Speaker 3: was talking with Keith Ellison, the Attorney General of Minnesota,

188
00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,040
Speaker 3: and you know, he said, you know, of course there

189
00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,920
Speaker 3: is no absolute immunity. But he also said, you know,

190
00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,600
Speaker 3: keep in mind, there are no statue, there is no

191
00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:39,000
Speaker 3: statute of limitations on and so you know, when these

192
00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,760
Speaker 3: guys are out of office, you know, Minnesota can still

193
00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,880
Speaker 3: investigate this, but that's a long time for everybody gets

194
00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,120
Speaker 3: the bottom of this. And you know, Molly and I

195
00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,080
Speaker 3: can talk about this, but it seems to me that

196
00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,960
Speaker 3: the bigger overarching issue is that Democrats need to find

197
00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:59,160
Speaker 3: a way to reign in this campaign of terror. I mean,

198
00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,520
Speaker 3: it is absolute out of control. And maybe it's through

199
00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:06,560
Speaker 3: this DHS budgeting process, so I don't know, but it

200
00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,640
Speaker 3: seems to me that, you know, they're totally out of

201
00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:10,480
Speaker 3: control at this point.

202
00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,640
Speaker 1: So let's talk about that, because right now, as you

203
00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:17,120
Speaker 1: and I are talking, the appropriators in the Senate are

204
00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:21,280
Speaker 1: appropriating money for the budget for the twenty twenty six budget.

205
00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:26,360
Speaker 1: And in that budget are billions of dollars to the

206
00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:32,520
Speaker 1: Christy Nome militia. And in those billions of dollars, are

207
00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:36,280
Speaker 1: you know right now Ice is in Minnesota. Since we're

208
00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:40,680
Speaker 1: name dropping Minnesota politicians, I've been talking to the governor

209
00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,199
Speaker 1: Tim Walls, and you know, they're just trying to take

210
00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,400
Speaker 1: down the temperature, talking to everyone from the Pope down

211
00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,920
Speaker 1: about how to take down the temperature, whereas Donald Trump

212
00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,680
Speaker 1: is tweeting about how they're fraudsters. And but I want

213
00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,719
Speaker 1: to get back to this idea here about why they

214
00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,600
Speaker 1: went to Minnesota in the first place, why they go

215
00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:00,959
Speaker 1: to Minnese soda in the first place.

216
00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:02,840
Speaker 3: First of all, I mean, you just have to listen

217
00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,040
Speaker 3: to Trump. He seems to have some kind of weird

218
00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:08,080
Speaker 3: grudge that he's holding onto with Minnesota. He made some

219
00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:10,760
Speaker 3: ridiculous claim the other day that he's won the state

220
00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:15,040
Speaker 3: three times. That's more banana stuff from the MENSHA patient

221
00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,199
Speaker 3: in chief. But I mean, to me, it's he also

222
00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,599
Speaker 3: seems to want to crush I mean, we obviously know

223
00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,400
Speaker 3: he wants to sort of crush, you know, blue cities

224
00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,680
Speaker 3: and their ability and blue states and their ability to

225
00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,120
Speaker 3: sort of do their own thing. But I think there's

226
00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,720
Speaker 3: something about Minnesota that he wants to you know, he

227
00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:32,040
Speaker 3: wants to intimidate and bully.

228
00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:37,720
Speaker 1: But it's also likely because of the Nick Shirley YouTube

229
00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:45,439
Speaker 1: video which highlighted this fraud from twenty twenty two, where

230
00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,280
Speaker 1: people had been prosecuted, people had gone to jail. You know,

231
00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,400
Speaker 1: this was a story that had been it had been

232
00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,880
Speaker 1: highlighted by the mainstream media, it had been prosecuted by

233
00:12:55,000 --> 00:13:01,199
Speaker 1: prosecutors who were later fired by Trump, and then it

234
00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:05,000
Speaker 1: was discovered quote unquote by a YouTuber who you know

235
00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:09,120
Speaker 1: was twenty two or whatever, and.

236
00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,840
Speaker 3: Then trust the Minnesota version of big balls.

237
00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know right, he's big balls exactly, He's ice

238
00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,840
Speaker 1: balls exactly. He's ice balls. Yes.

239
00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:19,880
Speaker 3: I think that, you know, this goes back to if

240
00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,079
Speaker 3: you just whisper something ridiculous and Trump's hear, He'll say, Oh,

241
00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,880
Speaker 3: that's a good idea, let's invade Greenland. This is one

242
00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,200
Speaker 3: of the problems that we've seen over the last ten years,

243
00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,080
Speaker 3: going back to twenty sixteen. Whoever's last in the room

244
00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,640
Speaker 3: with him, whoever can pull him aside or have a

245
00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:37,360
Speaker 3: private moone with him and whispers something insane into his ear.

246
00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:41,199
Speaker 3: I mean, there's a you know, there's an audience for that,

247
00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,520
Speaker 3: and he seems to act upon it. But I do

248
00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:49,199
Speaker 3: think I think there's something about he's I think that's

249
00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:50,600
Speaker 3: part of it, what you're saying, Molly, But I think

250
00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,160
Speaker 3: there's something about he wants to he wants to be

251
00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,480
Speaker 3: a dictator, and he wants to show these blue states

252
00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,959
Speaker 3: and cities that he's in charge, and that is how

253
00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,800
Speaker 3: it's going to be. I mean, you know, a lot

254
00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,960
Speaker 3: of this is about humiliation. I think a lot of

255
00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,040
Speaker 3: this is about control. I mean, look, at the way

256
00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,880
Speaker 3: he dealt with the you know, the lady who won

257
00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:13,360
Speaker 3: the Nobel Peace Prize, Mashado in Venezuela, just sort of

258
00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:17,319
Speaker 3: harping on that, continuing to badger her on that and

259
00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,360
Speaker 3: until she gave him the goddamn Peace prize. And it

260
00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,400
Speaker 3: just seems to me the guy wants He and Stephen Miller,

261
00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,280
Speaker 3: who is sort of the de facto president right now,

262
00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,040
Speaker 3: they want compliance at any cost.

263
00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,000
Speaker 1: But but I want to ask you about this, because

264
00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:35,320
Speaker 1: they want compliance. But you think she's going to become

265
00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,120
Speaker 1: the leader of Venezuela, I don't.

266
00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,000
Speaker 3: I think for Stock, I think is rising. I don't

267
00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:41,600
Speaker 3: know if it's going to be the case. I think

268
00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:45,000
Speaker 3: Trump Trump is a is a dictator, guy who likes dictators,

269
00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,840
Speaker 3: and he'll probably want to go with you know, the

270
00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:50,560
Speaker 3: devil that he knows at this point, the regime without

271
00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,320
Speaker 3: you know, Maduro in there, because they'll they'll just do

272
00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,240
Speaker 3: what he wants and open up yeah oil and the

273
00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,400
Speaker 3: gas station that is Venezuela. And that's how Trump would

274
00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,640
Speaker 3: rather sort of like when he pardoned all the January

275
00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,760
Speaker 3: sixth writers and criminals because they didn't want to do

276
00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,240
Speaker 3: the homework and figure out which one's dangerous, that's just

277
00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:09,000
Speaker 3: fuck it. Just let's just do them all. And I

278
00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:12,360
Speaker 3: suppose Venezuela is sort of a similar case, and that well,

279
00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,520
Speaker 3: it's just easier to just you know, keep the people

280
00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,680
Speaker 3: in there under Maduro because it's cleaner that way and easier.

281
00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:24,080
Speaker 1: So you have Trump Venezuela, he removed the president and

282
00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:27,840
Speaker 1: his wife. All right, So that's Venezuela. You have Greenland.

283
00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:32,640
Speaker 1: You have now a codal of senators going to Greenland

284
00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:36,440
Speaker 1: and to Denmark to tell them, don't worry, we're not

285
00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,120
Speaker 1: going to take We're not going to do regime change

286
00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:45,440
Speaker 1: in Greenland. And then we have Cuba, which he's threatened

287
00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,880
Speaker 1: because why not.

288
00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:50,800
Speaker 3: And we have had a problem with Cuba in the past.

289
00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:51,960
Speaker 3: That's just never fine.

290
00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:54,440
Speaker 1: Well, in the Middle East, we've done really well in

291
00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,840
Speaker 1: the Middle East around he might want to do regime

292
00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:02,400
Speaker 1: change there because as they're protesting and he wants to

293
00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:06,440
Speaker 1: protect peaceful protesters. And Iran, but not in Minnesota.

294
00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,160
Speaker 3: Make it say, maybe he pulled back on Iran because

295
00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,920
Speaker 3: he got the Nobel Peace Prize from the from Mashadow

296
00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:13,760
Speaker 3: and as well, I got it, So you know, why

297
00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:15,120
Speaker 3: do we we don't need to do Iran. Now, I

298
00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:15,640
Speaker 3: don't know.

299
00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:17,600
Speaker 1: He's brought a lot of peace. He's brought a lot

300
00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,160
Speaker 1: of yeah, stepped in America.

301
00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:23,080
Speaker 3: Wars and caused twenty of them. I mean on Greenland.

302
00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,160
Speaker 3: You know, this is what I've been saying to me.

303
00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,760
Speaker 3: You know, feel free to push back. I'm happy to

304
00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,720
Speaker 3: hear it. But we already have Greenland in a way right,

305
00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,840
Speaker 3: of course, it's part of NATO. We have a military

306
00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:37,960
Speaker 3: base there. We don't need to invade a country where

307
00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,840
Speaker 3: we have a military base and we have NATO. This

308
00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,680
Speaker 3: notion that it's needed for national security reasons, I don't

309
00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:45,640
Speaker 3: think there's any I don't think the Greenlanders have any

310
00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:49,280
Speaker 3: problem with US putting more bases there, or you know,

311
00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:52,480
Speaker 3: sending in companies to no, of course, not pillage their

312
00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:54,880
Speaker 3: natural resources and so on. I think you know that.

313
00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:58,680
Speaker 3: So this this thing again, it goes back to I

314
00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:03,000
Speaker 3: think you know his which is he just wants people

315
00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,560
Speaker 3: to say yes. He wants people to be compliant, and

316
00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,440
Speaker 3: he will humiliate you until he gets what he wants.

317
00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:11,800
Speaker 3: And I mean, my sense of it is, and I

318
00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,000
Speaker 3: don't know what you think, Molly about this. I think

319
00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:18,040
Speaker 3: that if he does something crazy and invades Greenland. My

320
00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,720
Speaker 3: advice to the NATO allies would be to just do nothing,

321
00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:24,000
Speaker 3: would be to just like this. You can do military exercises,

322
00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,720
Speaker 3: you can flex your muscles, you could talk about sanctions

323
00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:28,879
Speaker 3: and stuff like that. But we're at sort of the

324
00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:33,399
Speaker 3: stage of, you know, Grandpa Homer, Grandpa Simpson falling asleep

325
00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,359
Speaker 3: on the sofa, dropping the remote control under the couch

326
00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,160
Speaker 3: and getting frustrated because he can't find it. And that's

327
00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,199
Speaker 3: sort of mentally I think, where Trump is right now,

328
00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,359
Speaker 3: and he's just lashing out. It's sort of like the

329
00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:45,280
Speaker 3: way the market has been responding.

330
00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,000
Speaker 1: People don't believe he's just going to do it.

331
00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a Taco thing, so let's just hang in

332
00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:52,560
Speaker 3: there and wait it out, right.

333
00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:55,640
Speaker 1: I mean, except when it comes to removing the leadership

334
00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:59,480
Speaker 1: in Venezuela. That wasn't Taco, that was duo. I mean,

335
00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,200
Speaker 1: that's the if it we're all taco, I think that

336
00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,440
Speaker 1: would be okay. The problem is we don't know what

337
00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:07,080
Speaker 1: is or is in Taco now.

338
00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:10,360
Speaker 3: I think I think Venezuela is a little bit that

339
00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:15,160
Speaker 3: was sort of deputy de facto president Marco Rubio having

340
00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:18,119
Speaker 3: his designs set on.

341
00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:19,639
Speaker 1: Being able to run for president.

342
00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,920
Speaker 3: Wanting for president, competing with JD Vance. That's one component.

343
00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,480
Speaker 3: And then I think he also just sees like Venezuela

344
00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:29,240
Speaker 3: as sort of the gateway drug to get in Cuba,

345
00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,160
Speaker 3: and you know they're there. I think there's that component

346
00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:33,920
Speaker 3: to it as well. In my sense of it right

347
00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,800
Speaker 3: now is that you have two sort of deputy prime

348
00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,080
Speaker 3: ministers in the White House who are kind of running

349
00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,280
Speaker 3: things right now, and it's Stephen Miller and it's Mark

350
00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:44,760
Speaker 3: or Rubio until until something changes, that's.

351
00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:45,600
Speaker 1: And Jdie Vance.

352
00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:48,439
Speaker 3: And I guess J. Jd Vance I guessed so much.

353
00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:53,439
Speaker 3: But he seems to be maybe less influential, but maybe

354
00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,760
Speaker 3: more evil and more sinister. I mean, the way he

355
00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:59,320
Speaker 3: responded to the Renee good thing was absolutely appalling.

356
00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,639
Speaker 1: My favorite thing about Jenny Vance's response to an a

357
00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,160
Speaker 1: good thing was it was like everyone was like, let's

358
00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,360
Speaker 1: take down the temperature, Let's take there in the temperature,

359
00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,439
Speaker 1: let's take there in the temperature. And he's like she

360
00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:15,280
Speaker 1: was a domestic terrorist right immediately, like the goal was

361
00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,680
Speaker 1: to take down the temperature. And immediately he just went

362
00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:22,440
Speaker 1: completely to eleven and we and we should probably.

363
00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:24,399
Speaker 3: You know, lay down the law here and say you know,

364
00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,400
Speaker 3: no Republican is ever allowed to say, let's turn down

365
00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,400
Speaker 3: the temperature until Donald Trump has left office. I mean,

366
00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,000
Speaker 3: as one of his advisors once told me, he is

367
00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:37,359
Speaker 3: an arsonist who never resists lighting the match, and you

368
00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,760
Speaker 3: know he is going Trump is just going to inflame things,

369
00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,760
Speaker 3: in particular this year. I mean when you heard him

370
00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,240
Speaker 3: the other day, you know, talking about maybe we don't

371
00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,879
Speaker 3: need to have elections coming up in November, and then

372
00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:53,159
Speaker 3: he said it to Reuters and then he was kidding helious.

373
00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,560
Speaker 3: You know, he is not going to turn down the temperature.

374
00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:58,640
Speaker 3: He is going to raise the temperature because he sees

375
00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,000
Speaker 3: that as the only way out of of the predicament

376
00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:01,840
Speaker 3: that he's put himself.

377
00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,520
Speaker 1: It's so funny because it's like here he was. He

378
00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:10,720
Speaker 1: came in and people were like, this guy, we're going

379
00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,479
Speaker 1: to give him another chance. Like it was just like

380
00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,000
Speaker 1: one of these sort of night mere scenarios. Everyone's like,

381
00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,000
Speaker 1: he's kind of great, you know, he's you had every

382
00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,040
Speaker 1: billionaire in the world like up there with him, being like,

383
00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,840
Speaker 1: you know, we like this guy, He's good for business,

384
00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,720
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden he does insane things,

385
00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:30,320
Speaker 1: just like we told you he was going to do.

386
00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:35,000
Speaker 1: He does insane. He sends right, he sends ice into

387
00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:39,160
Speaker 1: occupy American cities, and then people are and the polling

388
00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:43,080
Speaker 1: is horrendous. The billionaires are still totally on board because

389
00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,879
Speaker 1: they could maybe get makes more money, but you know,

390
00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,040
Speaker 1: you know, the American people, this guy is fun when

391
00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,480
Speaker 1: it comes to poll numbers. I mean, the poll numbers

392
00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,040
Speaker 1: are through the They're as low as they've ever been.

393
00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:59,040
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, he is screwedgin I don't think Yeah, ten

394
00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,720
Speaker 3: ways to Sunday right now, even on immigration. And my

395
00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,439
Speaker 3: favorite poll number of the week is the one in

396
00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,159
Speaker 3: a Reuter's poll that showed that four percent of the

397
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:11,679
Speaker 3: American people are in favor of militarily taking Greenland. Four percent.

398
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,200
Speaker 1: What about fifty percent of Americans think ice makes this

399
00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,160
Speaker 1: city more dangerous?

400
00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,280
Speaker 3: Yes, let's think about that.

401
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,399
Speaker 1: They think that when you send ice in it's like

402
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,200
Speaker 1: sending trende a raguah.

403
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,840
Speaker 3: It's boy stupido. I think is the other thing that

404
00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:31,080
Speaker 3: that might be the Trump gang in twenty twenty six.

405
00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:32,960
Speaker 3: Moy stupid O, I believe is the name of that gang.

406
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:37,840
Speaker 3: But these guys, I have to say that you're hitting

407
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,000
Speaker 3: on one of my buttons here talking about the corporate

408
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:44,480
Speaker 3: titans and so on, boundtown Trump. I mean, will there

409
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,719
Speaker 3: ever be a more shameful thing that has occurred in

410
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,760
Speaker 3: the history of this country than what we saw to

411
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:51,960
Speaker 3: take place in twenty twenty five, the way they just

412
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,320
Speaker 3: completely buckled and I think enabled a lot of what

413
00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,560
Speaker 3: we're dealing with right now. Yeah, And it is one

414
00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,760
Speaker 3: of the coping mechanisms, There's no question about it. I've

415
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 3: witnessed this and observed this with the last ten years

416
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,920
Speaker 3: covering him in and out of the White House. Is that,

417
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,440
Speaker 3: you know, on the right, there's just a coping mechanism,

418
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,760
Speaker 3: and even in the business community, and I guess to Somerset,

419
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,320
Speaker 3: in the academic community, and certainly in the media. If

420
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,919
Speaker 3: we just you know, hang in there, and we just

421
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,359
Speaker 3: you know, sort of stomach this stuff and absorbed this

422
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:23,000
Speaker 3: stuff and play along and play nice, it'll all work out.

423
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,560
Speaker 3: And I'm sorry, but you know, it just fascism doesn't

424
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,720
Speaker 3: work that way. It doesn't end that way.

425
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:30,879
Speaker 1: It doesn't end that way, and it turns out because

426
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,800
Speaker 1: this is stupid fascism. It doesn't start that way. Even

427
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 1: it just sort of begins maybe very the sort of

428
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:40,440
Speaker 1: preamble is that, but then very quickly it devolves. I

429
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:46,119
Speaker 1: want you to talk about how CBS News you met

430
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 1: part of it. It was the number three. They lost

431
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:54,160
Speaker 1: twenty three percent a viewership in the first two weeks.

432
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,120
Speaker 1: I mean, how do you even do that?

433
00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,160
Speaker 3: Listen, I used to work at CBS a million years ago.

434
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:03,439
Speaker 3: It's lightly older audience, to put it mildly, And you know,

435
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,160
Speaker 3: the twenty three percent or so who turned off CBS

436
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:08,639
Speaker 3: are the ones who were able to get off the

437
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:12,119
Speaker 3: sofa and out of the reclining bed and hit the

438
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,880
Speaker 3: remote control and turn off the TV. This has been

439
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 3: an absolute debacle. And you know, Walter Cronkite isn't just

440
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,920
Speaker 3: rolling in his grave. He's thinking about coming back from

441
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 3: the dead and punching Tony de Couple in the face.

442
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,679
Speaker 3: I think is what's happening right now. And it's in

443
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 3: part because Barry Weiss appears to be a complete amateur

444
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 3: when it comes to running a news operation.

445
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 1: Outside that easy to run. I mean, to go from

446
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,640
Speaker 1: just as an opinion writer myself, to go from being

447
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,719
Speaker 1: an opinion writer to running a major network, that's right,

448
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:47,880
Speaker 1: It's not the same skill set.

449
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 3: It's not the same thing. And you know, when they

450
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 3: come out with this these mission statements and it says

451
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,200
Speaker 3: we love America. Well, no shit, we all love America.

452
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 3: We just don't want to go down the tubes. Yeah,

453
00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 3: and everybody has a different opinion on how that's to go,

454
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 3: and you know, to put that out there is just

455
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 3: it's just like, you know, just tell us how you

456
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,679
Speaker 3: want to be Fox, I mean honestly, like it's just

457
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 3: so completely obvious and not telling us how you want.

458
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 1: To be right. We make no apology for our love

459
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:14,880
Speaker 1: of America.

460
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just it's just it's condescending and gross, and

461
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 3: you know, we all love this country. That's not the point.

462
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 3: The point is, should you be having your anchor on

463
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 3: the CBS evening news and the broadcast by saying we

464
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 3: salute you, Marco Rubio or how about where they he

465
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,959
Speaker 3: both sides, January sixth. It's absolutely ridiculous. It's not the news,

466
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 3: and that's why they're turning it off.

467
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 1: It's also interesting to me, I think that she clearly

468
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 1: thinks that TV audiences are really stupid, and as someone

469
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 1: who does a lot of television and you too, TV

470
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 1: audiences are not stupid. They're actually really involved and interested

471
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 1: and they.

472
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 3: Want cads right here about it, and they.

473
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 1: Care about the news. And when you think an audience

474
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 1: is stupid, you're always going to give them the worst

475
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 1: possible thing. And that is what when I think about

476
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 1: we love America and won't apologize for it.

477
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,880
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, I'll tell you something I heard a million

478
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 3: years ago. When I worked at CBS News in the

479
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 3: early two thousands, there was a producer there named Linda

480
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 3: And this is when I was very new there, very

481
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 3: wet behind the ears, very young, and she said a

482
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 3: couple of things to me. She said, you're at CBS News.

483
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 3: Our correspondents are either the females are young and pretty

484
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 3: and the old guys are old and crusty, and you're neither.

485
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 3: That was one thing that she.

486
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 4: Said to me.

487
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 3: The other thing that she said to me was the

488
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:42,360
Speaker 3: people who watch the CBS Evening News are smart fucking people. Yeah,

489
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 3: and they are, and they know when they're being sold

490
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 3: to bill of goods. And that is what is going

491
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,919
Speaker 3: on here. And people don't want propaganda in this country.

492
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 3: They can sniff it out. And to me, it is

493
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 3: it is such a crying shame to see what's happened

494
00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 3: over there. But to me, it's just going to contend

495
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 3: you to encourage what we've been seeing in this industry,

496
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 3: which is the this rise of independent media. People say,

497
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 3: you know, I don't want to watch corporate news anymore.

498
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,919
Speaker 3: If these companies are just going to do this ridiculous,

499
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 3: clownish stuff and kiss up to Donald Trump and maybe

500
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 3: good business they think for them In the corporate boardroom.

501
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 3: I can't tell you how many times I've heard over

502
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 3: the years, corporate executives and news divisions say, you know,

503
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 3: if we became more like Fox, the audience will come over. No,

504
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 3: they won't. They're completely baked in over there Fox. They

505
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 3: want to watch Jesse and and these guys kiss Trump's ass.

506
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,920
Speaker 3: They don't want it on the CBS evening news.

507
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,160
Speaker 1: But also why why would you want it? Like most

508
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: of the country is not liking this, so why are

509
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: you going to be I mean, it's.

510
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 3: Hubris, It's absolute hubris. Apparently she goes around with like

511
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 3: five security guards on a part plane and everything.

512
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, enjoy it, and you just you just yeah,

513
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 1: put that all on the corporate expense account base.

514
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 3: But but I mean, look at what was reported I

515
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,679
Speaker 3: think in the Guardians just this week, Molly where the

516
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 3: media reporter there talked to some insiders inside CBS who

517
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 3: said they were deeply upset with this story that came

518
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 3: out this week that said, you know, two US officials

519
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 3: say that the officer who shot and killed Renee Goods

520
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 3: suffered internal bleeding. To me, that's the kind of story

521
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,919
Speaker 3: in this environment where you need those officials on the record.

522
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 3: If those officials want to peddle that stuff, they need

523
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 3: to put their names on it. Well, and it seems

524
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 3: to me if they're not willing to do that, then

525
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 3: they probably have something to hide. This administration does not

526
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 3: get the benefit of the doubt. It is let by

527
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 3: the liar in chief. And you know, all of these

528
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 3: officials who were, you know, working on his behalf behind

529
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:44,919
Speaker 3: the scenes don't have a great track record either. And

530
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,679
Speaker 3: so to me, like if you're new, if you're a

531
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 3: reporter working on this stuff, you can't just say, oh, okay,

532
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 3: two US officials say it, that's fine, let's publish, let's

533
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 3: go with that.

534
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:57,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, now it's true. Also, it's ridiculous. You know,

535
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 1: we saw the video of him walking away, walked away. Yeah,

536
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 1: so like clearly he was fine.

537
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,439
Speaker 3: He shot her with one hand, recorded it with his cell.

538
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 1: Phone the other one and then went, you know now.

539
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 3: And then caught her a fucking bitch and walked away,

540
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 3: walked away to me.

541
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jim Acosta, will you.

542
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 3: Come back anytime? Happy to do it.

543
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 1: John Bresnahan covers Congress for Punchbowl. Welcome to Fast Politics, John.

544
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,360
Speaker 4: Thanks for having me on. I really appreciate it.

545
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: I want you to talk about what's happening right now

546
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 1: in Congress because there's so much interestings happened at first.

547
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: I want you to talk about appropriations, cause this is

548
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: like a moment where Congress is sort of trying to

549
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: take back its power.

550
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 4: Maybe discuss Yeah, I mean it's a huge moment for

551
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 4: the Congress because the Trump administration and even previous administrations,

552
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 4: but especially Trump, has taken a very very aggressive stance

553
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 4: on that they control how federal funds are spent. Even

554
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 4: if Congress you know, appropriates money, it's you know, goes

555
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 4: through line through line. This program gets this, this program

556
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 4: gets that, you know, the president signs it into law.

557
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 4: They still Russ vote, who is the O and B director,

558
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 4: and the White House, the white senior White House staff

559
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 4: a very aggressive view on what Trump can do with money.

560
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 4: And he's just spent it now. Also one of the

561
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 4: big issues of course right now is you know, we

562
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 4: had a forty three day government shutdown last year, which

563
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 4: was a disaster. It was a disaster for the Congress,

564
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 4: it was a disaster for the country. Okay, no one wanted.

565
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 4: I think it's very important that the appropriations committees and

566
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 4: the Congress gets something done, compromise bills. And if not,

567
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 4: think about think about what could happen here. They would

568
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 4: just do what's known as a continuing resolution. They would

569
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 4: just continue like flat funding. Everything that's in place already

570
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 4: just keeps going. Okay. And then, for argument's sake, let's

571
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 4: say the Democrats win Congress, win the Congress in November,

572
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 4: which very very good chance. Think of whin at least

573
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 4: the House. Okay, then you have it's going to be

574
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 4: very hard for them to cut deals with Trump. Okay,

575
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 4: a lame juck Trump who is just already doesn't care

576
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 4: about what Congress thinks. Already, you know, he goes to

577
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 4: quarter over everything. So like we could be operating on

578
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 4: CRS for years. Then let's keep going. If a Democratic

579
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 4: president won in twenty twenty twenty nine, Republicans are going

580
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 4: to be like, look, you screwed Trump. We're not going

581
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 4: to cut a deal. I mean, it's imperative that Congress

582
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 4: reasserts its parting now or it could be years before

583
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 4: it happens again, or you know, we just may just

584
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 4: lose control of this.

585
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,719
Speaker 1: I want you to talk about because in the Senate

586
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: there was this War Powers Act last week. I think

587
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 1: Donald Trump freaked a lot of which is not a

588
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 1: money thing, and it's died by the way it was killed. Yes,

589
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: but I want to talk about last week because I

590
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 1: think and you cover Congress only closely, so I'm curious

591
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 1: what you think. It struck me that last week we

592
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: saw some Republican senators really freak out, and I think

593
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: it was the Venezuela thing, and and quickly with him

594
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: going and then I'm going to go to Greenland, so

595
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 1: talk us through that.

596
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 4: And there's senators and House members in Greenland right now.

597
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 4: You have several Republicans. Sam Tillit's from North Carolina, is retiring,

598
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 4: Lisa Murkowski from Alaska. They went to Copenhagen to reassure

599
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 4: the Danes that Congress does not support what Trump is

600
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,239
Speaker 4: saying about Greenland. Also, Greenland is really It's not only

601
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 4: a fight about Greenland, It's a fight about NATO. This

602
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 4: is all about NATO. This is a future of natoge

603
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 4: Trump is threatened. In his first term, kiddo, they actually

604
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 4: passed a bill that now Secretary of State Mark Rubio

605
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 4: was one of the sponsors of saying the president can't

606
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 4: withdraw from NATO. So but now, if Trump were to

607
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 4: take action against Greenland, say just seize it, then that

608
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 4: would be the end of NATO. That wouldn't effectively be over.

609
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: We get kicked out of NATO. We wouldn't leave it.

610
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: We'd get kicked out or we would have imploded it.

611
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. I mean, what's the point if one of

612
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 4: the power NATO countries can take over part of another

613
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 4: NATO country, you know, unilaterally. If the superpower can do

614
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 4: with a hyperpower, can do whatever they want, what's the

615
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 4: point of night So in Venezuela, I do think there was, Yes,

616
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 4: there was the operation to remove Maduro Nicolas Mandora the president,

617
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 4: and it was stunningly successful. Stunning was a stunning moment.

618
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 4: But the nightmare scenario is we send you as troops

619
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 4: to Venezuela to protect the oil interests or God knows

620
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 4: what and you know, how do we know who are

621
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 4: the good Venezuelan's and the bad Venezuelans? You know, what

622
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 4: do we get it? We're gonna bomb Venezuela. I mean,

623
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 4: as people have already suffered under this horrific regime for years,

624
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 4: So what are we going to bomb them into? I

625
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 4: don't know US client state status. I'm I'm not sure.

626
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 6: So I think there is a lot of in Congress

627
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 6: after Iraq, in Afghanistan, after the disasters there, you know,

628
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 6: arguably the worst follower foreign policy mistake in US history Iraq.

629
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 4: There's a lot of people who don't want to get

630
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 4: you know, what's the end game in Venezuela? What's our goal? Fine?

631
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 4: We remove Maduro? What are we doing there? And then

632
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 4: we're threatening Colombia and we're threatening Cuba. What you know?

633
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 4: I mean, I think they see if they better get

634
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 4: in front of this now if they can, or it's

635
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 4: going to be too late.

636
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 1: So let's follow that to the War Powers. On Friday,

637
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 1: we had Holly and Todd Young.

638
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 4: So a couple of things. There's the War Powers Resolution

639
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 4: is as technically known as never been doing No what

640
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 4: is actually constitutional? What it does is says a president

641
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 4: can't introduce if it's passed, if it's an act, that

642
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 4: a president can't introduce US forces into this zone or

643
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 4: conflict area for more than sixty days without approval of Congress.

644
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 4: They would have to withdraw. And this is in the

645
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 4: post Vietnam that came up with this, Okay, So it's

646
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 4: never been assertive because now Congress, you know, presidents have,

647
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 4: especially since World War Two, they've just you know, gone

648
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 4: further and further with you know, military emergencies or we

649
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 4: don't need Congress, or they get you know, Congress doesn't

650
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 4: declared war. We haven't declared war since World War Two,

651
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 4: but we've fought in many, many, many conflicts, very devastating conflicts,

652
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 4: horrifically expensive later decades long conflict. So now that the president,

653
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 4: the idea is that the president can't just send you

654
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 4: as troops on you know, just introduce them into a

655
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 4: conflict on his own without or her own, without approval

656
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 4: of Congress. Now president has the authority to, you know,

657
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 4: there's a clear president danger to the United States, to

658
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 4: use the military force to defend the United States, that

659
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 4: he doesn't need to go to Congress to say if

660
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 4: there's an imminent attack in the United States to defend

661
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 4: the United States. But if he's got to introduce troops

662
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 4: into what could be conflict, he needs, you know, he

663
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 4: needs the approval. Okay, it's never been tested. In course,

664
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 4: we're not sure it's constitutional, but it's least there. So

665
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:45,240
Speaker 4: last week there was a procedural vote and five Republicans

666
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 4: Senate Republicans voted against Trump, including as you mentioned, Josh

667
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 4: Hawley and Todd Young of Indiana. Was a big deal.

668
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:56,399
Speaker 4: And so since that vote, what happened was Rubio and

669
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 4: Trump and all these guys just hammered all these Republicans.

670
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 4: Trump came out, he was very angry. He said none

671
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,439
Speaker 4: of these guys should get elected again. And behind the scenes,

672
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 4: they were calling everybody. He was calling him. He was

673
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,720
Speaker 4: yelling at him. Rubio was calling him, you know, everybody

674
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 4: was calling him, saying, you gotta be with Trump on

675
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 4: this one. So now yesterday they had another vote in

676
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 4: Hawley and Young switched their vote. They were had They

677
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 4: said we're not going to move forward with us, so

678
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 4: they killed it. But they definitely sent a message that

679
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 4: Trump has limits here, at least politically.

680
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: And then you did have seventeen House Republicans vote for

681
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:36,399
Speaker 1: the Obamacare extensions. Talk about that because that I think

682
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: is meaningful.

683
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was that's a huge deal. I mean, they lost.

684
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 4: So they went so Obamacare, the premium subsidies that the Congress,

685
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 4: the Democratic Congress and President Foreign President Joe Biden put

686
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 4: in place under during COVID they had expanded Obamacare again

687
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 4: and extended it to millions more Americans. Now the subsidies ended,

688
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 4: and it's a huge We've already seen at least a

689
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 4: million and a half Americans now no longer. You know,

690
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 4: then they're not an Obamacare, they're not undercovered, so we're

691
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 4: not sure if they're going to be somewhere else. It

692
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 4: could be millions more So, what happened is that the

693
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 4: Republican leadership in the House didn't want to go for

694
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 4: with this speaker, Mike Johnson didn't want to go through

695
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 4: for an extension. But seventeen Republicans joined with all the

696
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 4: Democrats and said we wanted and went and voted on

697
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 4: the floor against the speaker. Again, a big moment. And

698
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 4: it wasn't just you know, vulnerable members. You know, some

699
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 4: of the Pennsylvania guys saying, you know, I'm scaredly going

700
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 4: to lose my seat. It was, you know, there were others.

701
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 4: Derek Van Orden is a Wisconsin very conservative member. Now

702
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 4: he's he's in a swing district, but he's a very

703
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 4: conservative member, and he voted against the speaker on this one.

704
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:50,720
Speaker 4: So I think what you're seeing right now is that

705
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 4: Trump is not a lame duck in the sense that

706
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 4: that would be a time. But what I especially in

707
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 4: the Congress, especially in the House, these guy moderates for

708
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 4: the first time, you're seeing moderates. The Conservatives are already

709
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 4: always willing to vote against anybody, you know, to get

710
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 4: what they want. Moderates where you know, they're moderates, you know,

711
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 4: so they in the end they fold. They went in,

712
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,439
Speaker 4: you know, guys like Brian Fitzpatrick and Pennsylvania just said,

713
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,760
Speaker 4: you know, I'm doing this. I don't care what Johnson thinks.

714
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 4: This is what I want, okay, and I'm doing it.

715
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,280
Speaker 4: And they're voting against their own leadership. Without these moderates,

716
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 4: there's no Republican majority. So their point is like, I'm

717
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 4: going to do what I need to do, and if

718
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 4: Johnson goes along with a fine, if he doesn't, you know,

719
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 4: all due respect to Speaker, I'm gonna do what I

720
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 4: need to do.

721
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 1: So this is part of a larger problem that the

722
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: House is having that Speaker Johnson is having with discharge petitions.

723
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 1: So I would love you to talk us through the

724
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 1: history of discharge petitions and what's happening right now with them.

725
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 4: So what happens is the Speaker of the House controls

726
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 4: the floor. How the Speaker controls the floor, They do

727
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 4: it through the Rules Committee. Okay. Speaker appoints members to

728
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 4: the Rules Committee, and the Rules Committee sets up the debate. Okay.

729
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 4: The House. Well, first of all, the House is not

730
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 4: a democracy. The House is a dictatorship. The majority jams

731
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 4: it to the minority every damn day. They just give

732
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 4: it to them every day. Okay, that's the way it goes.

733
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 4: Senate it's different. But the House is the majority rule. Okay.

734
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 4: There's a lot of pressure to join with your majority

735
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 4: on stuff. So Speaker sets the tone, Speaker controls the

736
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 4: Rules Committee, the Rules Committee controls the floor. What happens

737
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 4: on a discharge petition is if you get a majority

738
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 4: of members okay, two hundred and eighteen to sign on

739
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 4: into a petition, you can bring something to the floor,

740
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 4: whether or not the speaker wants it or not, but

741
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,800
Speaker 4: to sign it, it's a declaration. If you're in the majority,

742
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,760
Speaker 4: it's a declaration of war on the speaker. You are saying,

743
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 4: I am against you on this, okay.

744
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: And that's why they hadn't happened until very recently.

745
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,760
Speaker 4: Very rare, because the idea of the speakers aren't stupid.

746
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 4: They know how to count votes. If they know that

747
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 4: there's gonna be two hundred and eighteen votes on something,

748
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 4: they bring it to the floor themselves, or they bring

749
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 4: a version of the to the floor themselves, or they

750
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 4: try to much the waters by you can have one proposal,

751
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 4: maybe they offer povos. This is ninety percent of what

752
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 4: the members are seeking, and they try to muddy the water.

753
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 4: But they never you never want to lose control of

754
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 4: the floor. Nancy Plotzi, for instance, didn't have any discharge

755
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 4: petitions for against her. I mean, it's very rare. It's

756
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 4: very rare because you were declaring war on the speaker.

757
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 4: We've had three recently. I mean I've been covering I

758
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 4: mean my thirty third year. I've never seen three in

759
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 4: one year, I mean, did see that is very unusual. Now,

760
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 4: We have a very unusual circumstance right now. The House

761
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,439
Speaker 4: is only a two vote majority means two votes, right,

762
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 4: you know, like if he lose, if the speaker, the

763
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 4: majority loses, Republicans lose two votes on anything they're you know,

764
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 4: three votes, that's it. It passes or it fails. Right.

765
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 4: We had that happen this week.

766
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 1: And last week we had it happened too, right, We.

767
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 4: Had it happen. On Tuesday, the Republican leadership brought a

768
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 4: bill to the floor was for Ashley Hnsen and I

769
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 4: wish she's running for Senate. It was a bill she pushed,

770
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 4: was never going anywhere in the Senate, but it was

771
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 4: you know, it was a big for her. Six Republicans

772
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 4: voted no. That was that and they didn't even see

773
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 4: it coming. So, like the margins are so tight that

774
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:08,879
Speaker 4: discharge petition and the.

775
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 3: Control is it could swing under any one member.

776
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 4: We poured Dougla Mola, California. He passed away where he died.

777
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 4: You know, he does die. He went on for Christmas

778
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 4: and he never came back. You know. So we're down

779
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 4: to two votes right now.

780
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 1: Part of why Johnson is losing these votes because he's

781
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: losing rules committee votes.

782
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 4: He's not losing inside the rules he's losing a rules

783
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 4: vote on the floor.

784
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: It's a little different, right, but explain what that means.

785
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 4: So when they passed, so the Rules Committee votes on

786
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 4: a they decide their rule. It's a very Again, the

787
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 4: speaker controls the Rules Committee, which controls the floor, and

788
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 4: the Rules Committee has blopsided the majority. It's nine to four.

789
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 4: It's the biggest margin. There's nine Republicans, there's four Democrats.

790
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 4: They never lose in the Rules Committee until recently. But

791
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 4: then on the floor, a rule, a rule will say this,

792
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 4: we're going to vote on this bill. These amendments are

793
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 4: in order, we're going to take this time. We're going

794
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 4: to vote, you know, these amendments, and then we're going

795
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 4: to vote final passes. So it's lasa everything and how

796
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 4: the House considers legislation. What happens is they have to

797
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 4: go to the floor with the rule. The first vote

798
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 4: is the rule, and that's a party line vote. The

799
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 4: majority always votes for the rule because that's how you

800
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 4: control the floor. If you don't pass the rule, you

801
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 4: can't control the debate. So what happened is they've lost

802
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 4: some rules votes, which is again, Nancy Blosi didn't lose

803
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 4: rule votes. But Nancy Blussy never had a majority legs

804
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 4: you know, so I mean she had small and well yeah,

805
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 4: so what she had never had a majority, but she

806
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 4: never want a splinter? Is this These guys they can't

807
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 4: be against Trump, but they can be against Johnson.

808
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 1: Right, Johnson is like a stand in for their hostility

809
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: towards Trump.

810
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 4: But they never criticize Trump. They say, I don't like

811
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 4: what the speakers do.

812
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: I want you to talk us through the deep fake

813
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: porn bill that just went through the Senate, because this

814
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: is interesting and this is an AOC bill that she

815
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: put through the Senate first, So talk us through this.

816
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 4: God knows we need this legislation. This is now with

817
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 4: AI programs so good, they can they can produce these

818
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 4: videos that are clearly fake, but they would be you know,

819
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 4: somebody's face on someone else's body, and it's just it's horrific.

820
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 4: It's horrific, and they get posted, they get everywhere, and

821
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 4: it's it's a real violation of a person's privacy and

822
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 4: their their their image. So but you hear like in

823
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 4: the Senate, it's like they were able to pass this

824
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 4: bill first there was interested in an in Senate. I

825
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 4: think there's a lot of concern about where that's going.

826
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 4: It's going to get even worse. We saw this with

827
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 4: the AI Grock thing.

828
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about it for two reasons.

829
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: One is we've seen almost no tech regulation.

830
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 4: Very hard. Tech is so powerful on the hill, so powerful.

831
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: It's partially because they're a powerful lobby and it's partially

832
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 1: because a lot of these members are old and don't

833
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: understand technology.

834
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 4: Think about these companies. They are so so powerful cigarette everybody. Yeah,

835
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 4: it used to be like I remember when the Obama

836
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 4: carry debates, what happened they? I remember there was a

837
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 4: story there was like sixty lobbyists for every member. Okay,

838
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 4: that's what these people can do. They hire everybody. And

839
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 4: not only do they hire lobbyists, they are consultants and

840
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 4: they hire family members, and they send money back home

841
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 4: and they have front groups. And the thing is they're

842
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 4: all at war with each other too. I mean they

843
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 4: you know, Google at Microsoft and Amazon and these guys

844
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 4: may you know, they're all fighting with each other over

845
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 4: everything because you know, marketshare is so valuable that we're

846
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 4: talking about hundreds of billions of dollars, spending millions on

847
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 4: lobbying Congress is nothing for them. They are We've seen

848
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:35,280
Speaker 4: a couple of times in recent congresses the judiciary committees

849
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 4: in the House and Senate separately passed, you know, competition

850
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 4: bills that didn't go anywhere. We saw a bill last

851
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 4: year Kids Online Safety Act in the last Congress, okay,

852
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 4: and it had passed the House Energy and Commerce Committee,

853
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 4: one of the most powerful committees in Congress. The vote

854
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 4: was fifty to nothing. Everybody voted on it, okay, and

855
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:59,240
Speaker 4: Steve Scalise stopped it, the majority leader, because tech companies

856
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 4: went to him and they stopped it right there. He

857
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 4: would not schedule it, he wouldn't bring it to the floor.

858
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 4: Johnson didn't overrule it. That's how we think about it.

859
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 4: They had a fifty to nothing vote in Energy in Commerce.

860
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,240
Speaker 4: They got fifty members on both sides of the aisle

861
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 4: to say we want this Child Online Safety Act okay,

862
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 4: and they killed it right there. So I mean, their

863
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,280
Speaker 4: power is their power is immense.

864
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: So let's talk about that. This deep pig porn bell

865
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 1: if it's an AOC, But why did it start in

866
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 1: the Senate?

867
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 4: I mean they had to send a version of it.

868
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 4: I mean they're calling an aosd built because she's sadly

869
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 4: as horrifically she's faced this problem right right, right right,

870
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 4: So I think it said it because they try to

871
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 4: figure that they if they can get his Senate, then

872
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 4: there's been negotiation. You need to have sixty votes to

873
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 4: move anything in the Senate because the filibuster, So they're

874
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,919
Speaker 4: figure they had to there had to be a bipartisan

875
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 4: big deal in the Senate to get it through. So

876
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 4: if you can get it through there, then that shows

877
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 4: the House, well we've got to buy party. The Senate's

878
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 4: not going to stop, but they're already signing there so

879
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 4: that there's clearly enough votes. I don't know where the

880
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 4: administration is going to be on it. I don't you know. Again,

881
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 4: remember these groups, these companies and the groups that they

882
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 4: use are so powerful they can stop anything.

883
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:16,839
Speaker 1: You think lobbyists could kill this bill before it gets.

884
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 4: I'm not saying that. I don't know what the situation

885
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 4: on this bill is. To be completely honest, I've been

886
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 4: in the weeds on the appropriation stuff and the healthcare stuff.

887
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 4: I haven't paid as much attention to this, but I

888
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 4: just cautioned you these companies have so much powerful because

889
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 4: the companies they so influential.

890
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 1: Chuck Schumer's daughter works for Meta.

891
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 4: You could go across the board and do this. And

892
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 4: these guys have lobbyists from every both parties, both chambers.

893
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 4: They are able to get to anybody. They have them

894
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 4: back in the state. Their influence is not to be understed.

895
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 4: If they are the old oil companies, the old healthcare companies,

896
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 4: when you know the Dutch lobby, it's yeah, these guys

897
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 4: are the future, and their power is exponentially more because,

898
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 4: I mean, how can you deal with an Apple or

899
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,800
Speaker 4: or or you know, it's a four trillion dollar company

900
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 4: in Nvidia, how do you how do you deal with that?

901
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 4: It's a five trillion dollar company. They operate in two

902
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 4: hundred countries. They're like nations themselves in some ways. They

903
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 4: have armies of lawyers, they have armies of lobbyists, they

904
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 4: have armories and consultants, they have infinite amount of money.

905
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 4: They operate more globally across in every state. So I

906
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 4: don't think we've ever seen anything like this as the

907
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 4: rise of these tech companies, unless you know, go back

908
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 4: to John Rockefeller, you go back to you know, all

909
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,760
Speaker 4: these powerful figures. I don't think you've ever seen anything

910
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 4: on the scale of the influence that these companies, from

911
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 4: from local government to international organizations. They the scale of

912
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,240
Speaker 4: their influence is just stunning.

913
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: Oh, thank you, John, thanks for having me.

914
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 4: They're no moment.

915
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: Jesse Cannon I junk fast.

916
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 2: So I was talking earlier in the show. We can

917
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 2: all remember those signs that kamalas for crime. Mister Trump's

918
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 2: going to give law an order, but he loves pardoning criminals.

919
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 2: Like it's just wild. And you know, you and I

920
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 2: were talking earlier and like we have to always have

921
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 2: these conversations like, oh, we'll do regulation if a Democrat

922
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 2: gets selected again, Oh we'll have law and order, and

923
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 2: it won't just be about whatever company bribes him gets

924
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 2: away with it. It's so sad. We have to accept

925
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 2: that everyone gets freed for anything they want. Any company

926
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,800
Speaker 2: gets away with anything if you just bribe the sassle.

927
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:29,320
Speaker 4: Yeah.

928
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:33,800
Speaker 1: So basically what you mean by bribes is hire a lobbyist, too.

929
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 2: Is buy a crypto coin, sure, yeah, whatever, whatever the

930
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 2: flavor of the week is, right, buy.

931
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:44,760
Speaker 1: A crypto coin, hire a lobbyist. Maybe Pam Bondi's brother

932
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 1: that's what they want. They want you to do that

933
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,720
Speaker 1: kind of things. By the way, I love these people

934
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: are like some of my favorites. So is a man

935
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: whose daughter donated millions to a Trump super pac That's

936
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 1: how you do it, or you hire a lobbyist, but

937
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 1: this is it a good way. So first of all,

938
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 1: her stepmom I guess stepmom or mom was initially convicted

939
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: in twenty seventeen. You'll remember twenty seventeen, we were all

940
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 1: much younger and better looking for her role in a

941
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 1: scheme to sell millions of counterfeit bottles of caffeinated five

942
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:23,320
Speaker 1: hour energy. Counterfeit five hour energy. You ask, what, why? Why?

943
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 1: But that is not considered to be fraud. It's only

944
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 1: fraud when a Democrat doesn't. She's convicted again in twenty

945
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: twenty four in another unrelated fraud. By the way, if

946
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 1: you're an affluent white woman, do you know how hard

947
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: it is to get convicted of fraud. I'm just saying

948
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 1: this is another one of these Donald Trump's. If they're

949
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: my supporters, I'm a mazer at any Republicans in federal

950
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 1: prison anymore?

951
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 2: Truly, could they not figure out their GoFundMe strategy? To

952
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 2: bribe them.

953
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 1: A man in May, her father's lawyer, who had served

954
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 1: on mister Trump's legal defense team. That's also you have

955
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 1: to hire. One of Trump's lawyer negotiated an unusually lenient

956
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: deal with the Justice Department. Under the deal, which was

957
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 1: authorized by a top Trump appointee, he agreed to plead

958
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 1: guilty to a misdemeanor campaign finance charge disappearance, disappointing career

959
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 1: prosecutors who had hoped for any shred of justice. In July,

960
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:26,240
Speaker 1: the daughter donated another million dollars, and this week Donald

961
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 1: Trump pardoned them both. Good work everyone, Good.

962
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 4: Work, go team.

963
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 1: That's it for this episode of Fast Politics. Tune in

964
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: every Monday, Wednesday, Thursday and Saturday to hear the best

965
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: minds and politics make sense of all this chaos. If

966
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 1: you enjoy this podcast, please send it to a friend

967
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:53,760
Speaker 1: and keep the conversation going. Thanks for listening.