Speaker 1: Hey, the folks. In this episode a couple that has
Speaker 1: been married ten years but claims they have never ever fought,
Speaker 1: not once. Also, have you heard of this new concept
Speaker 1: a partners as people who voluntarily live apart from their
Speaker 1: significant other? And how much of an age gap is
Speaker 1: too great of an age gap when it comes to dating.
Speaker 1: Those are just a few of the relationship related headlines
Speaker 1: that had us and everybody else talking the past week.
Speaker 1: Welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ Rowl. Let's
Speaker 1: start with that, ca can you is there a blanket
Speaker 1: just there is an age gap that you just shouldn't
Speaker 1: be dating. Is there a general rule or should we
Speaker 1: all just it should go out the window and you
Speaker 1: just do your thing.
Speaker 2: You know, I at this stage in my life am
Speaker 2: not here to tell anybody else what they should or
Speaker 2: shouldn't do. I think, you know, what, if your soul
Speaker 2: falls in love with another person's soul, good for you.
Speaker 2: But I do think that it's significantly more challenging to
Speaker 2: have somebody who has a big age gap. But I think, look,
Speaker 2: you have met people who are older who who read younger.
Speaker 2: They just have different energy, And then you have younger
Speaker 2: folks who have older energy. So I do think sometimes
Speaker 2: you can. The age is just a number, and it's
Speaker 2: more about how you live your life, how you operate,
Speaker 2: and the activity level you're willing to.
Speaker 1: So forty nine year age gap can work.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to tell somebody it couldn't, but it
Speaker 2: wouldn't be for me.
Speaker 1: Okay, say what you say? Where we're going here? Bill
Speaker 1: Belichick Hall of Fame coach, Championship winning coach for the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl winning coach New England Patriots. He's now the
Speaker 1: head coach at North Carolina, but he's been in the
Speaker 1: headlines a lot because, yes, he is dating a woman
Speaker 1: that is forty nine years his junior.
Speaker 2: Yes, Bill Belichick is seventy three years old. His girlfriend,
Speaker 2: Jordan Hudson, is twenty four years old. So that is
Speaker 2: a forty nine your age gap.
Speaker 1: Should we start with? So what do you think if
Speaker 1: you're happy, knock yourself out, if you're not hurting anybody
Speaker 1: else and not hurting your self, who is anybody to
Speaker 1: say what's going on?
Speaker 2: I would be on that side of things. Yes, However,
Speaker 2: I think that everybody has to make that decision for themselves.
Speaker 2: I just think it's so easy to stand in judgment
Speaker 2: of other people. Yes, when if they're happy, why do
Speaker 2: you care? Like really white And maybe if you're Bill
Speaker 2: Belichick's kids, you might care. You've got a personal reasons
Speaker 2: and you're invested in something other than what he's choosing,
Speaker 2: and you've got to reason like fine than have your opinion.
Speaker 2: But the rest of us, I just think we should
Speaker 2: shut up.
Speaker 1: Okay, But some were saying, excuse me, I shouldn't say no,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying. Some were saying, it's been talking about
Speaker 1: a lot here late, that he's been on some red
Speaker 1: carpets with her, and he's been out and been out there.
Speaker 1: He's not necessarily hiding and being shy about it. But
Speaker 1: he did an interview recently with CBS News and the
Speaker 1: interview was on tape. I didn't realize it wasn't live,
Speaker 1: so it was on tape. It was recorded. Apparently his
Speaker 1: girlfriend was sitting off to the side. This was a
Speaker 1: one on one between Bill Belichick and the interviewer at CBS,
Speaker 1: and he was asked a question about his relationship and right.
Speaker 2: So the question was they were asking how the two met,
Speaker 2: because there are unsubstantiated reports that they met on a
Speaker 2: plane back in twenty twenty one. Who knows whatever, But
Speaker 2: the question was asked, how did you meet? And Jordan
Speaker 2: jumped in. She didn't have a microphone, but from off
Speaker 2: to the side she said, we are not talking about this,
Speaker 2: and the interview said no, and she went no and
Speaker 2: shut it down. Now you and I have both had
Speaker 2: I could point to a very big interview where I
Speaker 2: actually had something very similar happen where the wife got
Speaker 2: upset at the question I was asking her husband and
Speaker 2: these were famous folks. She jumped up, yelled at me
Speaker 2: and walked out of the room. We made the decision
Speaker 2: not to put that in the piece because it wasn't
Speaker 2: a part of the interview, and CBS News this actually
Speaker 2: CBS Sunday Morning made the choice to leave it in,
Speaker 2: which then created a lot of reaction from folks to.
Speaker 1: What do you do there? I will take that first.
Speaker 1: I didn't know what else they had on tape. I
Speaker 1: don't know it for all. It kind have been a
Speaker 1: boring interview and they're like, well, this will spice it
Speaker 1: up a little bit. Who knows what the decision making was.
Speaker 1: Is it a part of this? So he was there
Speaker 1: to talk about a book something else.
Speaker 2: He's got a new book, The Art of Winning, and
Speaker 2: that's why he was sitting down with CBS Sunday Morning
Speaker 2: to talk about that and the lessons he learned from
Speaker 2: his father.
Speaker 1: But what do you do there as a journalist? It
Speaker 1: had nothing to do necessarily with the interview, but it
Speaker 1: became a part of the interview. I have a question
Speaker 1: for this my interview, E I have a question, and
Speaker 1: the answer to that question came from somebody who wasn't
Speaker 1: being interviewed. Now, Bill Belichick would have said, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna skip that disrespectfully, I might have left that
Speaker 1: response out. He would just say, you know what, I
Speaker 1: want to skip pass on that and moved on. But
Speaker 1: to have that type of interruption, now she becomes the story.
Speaker 1: Why wasn't that talked about ahead of time? What questions
Speaker 1: are we going to ask? Is it a rule violated?
Speaker 1: Who knows? I don't know that backstory, But it's hard
Speaker 1: when she became a part of the interview voluntarily.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a decision made on a case
Speaker 2: by case basis and in the spirit of the interview.
Speaker 2: And if they felt like, for whatever reason, that was
Speaker 2: an important part of the interview, and they wanted to
Speaker 2: include it. Certainly. Of course they knew that that was
Speaker 2: going to make that we're only talking about that interview
Speaker 2: because of their decision to leave that part of what
Speaker 2: happened off camera. It was on camera, but off to
Speaker 2: the side of the camera. They chose to leave it
Speaker 2: in and that is why we're talking about it.
Speaker 1: Could have been uh, I mean, I could have been
Speaker 1: a part of the strategy. People are going to be
Speaker 1: talking about it. People don't to be buzzing this so
Speaker 1: go viral maybe, But yeah, it was a taped piece.
Speaker 1: They had every opportunity do not include that at all,
Speaker 1: and they chose to do so. But he's not the
Speaker 1: only one. Look we look at and talk U seventy
Speaker 1: three and twenty four. Yes, yes she was. They've known
Speaker 1: each other for several years now. I think they've been
Speaker 1: dating for a couple of years, so she was younger.
Speaker 1: This idea, now that it's come up in a much
Speaker 1: more is much different. Let's make sure we're clear much different.
Speaker 1: But also this underlying story of men, older men dating
Speaker 1: women that are so much younger, and I'm talking about
Speaker 1: the Shannon Sharp story. Now there's a fifty million dollar
Speaker 1: lawsuit about sexual assault that's involved. However, there's been criticism
Speaker 1: plenty from a lot of big names. Charlemagne and then
Speaker 1: this clip from the comedian Monique came up in which
Speaker 1: she was telling Shannon, being comedic, but stop messing around
Speaker 1: with these young girls.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, get you an older woman who will make
Speaker 2: you some food and take care of you and rub
Speaker 2: your feet when you come home. That's what she said
Speaker 2: to him. It was quite funny, she warned him. She said,
Speaker 2: stop pulling around with all these young girls. It's gonna
Speaker 2: come back and bite you.
Speaker 1: Now. In Shannon's situation, he was fifty four and she
Speaker 1: was nineteen when they first met. That again, that's what
Speaker 1: I'm I guess, hard to do the math S's that
Speaker 1: thirty five thirty six year didn't have the math?
Speaker 2: Right? Look, yes that's thirty five. I think here's yes
Speaker 2: at that point. But you know, here's the deal. Once
Speaker 2: once you're over the age of eighteen, it is perfectly legal.
Speaker 2: And you know, I have a nineteen year old daughter,
Speaker 2: I have a twenty two year old daughter. What I
Speaker 2: want them dating men that old? No, I would not
Speaker 2: because I would just be concerned there was the possibility
Speaker 2: from manipulation and just when you're that young, you don't
Speaker 2: know what you don't know. That's what I always am
Speaker 2: telling my daughters, And so you just have to wonder,
Speaker 2: you know, there is concern there. As a mom, I'm
Speaker 2: concerned when I see this just for those young women,
Speaker 2: not that they're not fully legal and capable of making
Speaker 2: their own decisions, but are they actually emotionally and intellectually
Speaker 2: and experiment like, do they have the experience to make
Speaker 2: those decisions. That's where you would hope their parents would
Speaker 2: step in, And I really think that's a role for
Speaker 2: their family to maybe just make sure they're there and
Speaker 2: watching and witnessing and trying to guide their loved ones.
Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, technically.
Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with There's nothing wrong with what anybody's doing.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure stepping out they know they're going to
Speaker 1: be ridiculed, they're going to be talked about, they're going
Speaker 1: to be buzzed about, they're going to be trending at times.
Speaker 1: On some days, it's just those are two back to
Speaker 1: back stories where I look, I've been around, and we've
Speaker 1: been around plenty. We know people who are dating folks
Speaker 1: who are have big age gaps. I mean ten years,
Speaker 1: twenty years, fine, when you talk about fifty and thirty
Speaker 1: five and that's you don't see that a lot.
Speaker 2: I also think that it's important that when that when
Speaker 2: those age gaps happen later in life, it really doesn't
Speaker 2: feel like a big deal. It's only when the women
Speaker 2: are so young, like you're talking about early twenties, teens,
Speaker 2: early twenties, that's tough. You know, as a woman, I
Speaker 2: can go back and look, I got married, I got
Speaker 2: engaged and then married at twenty three, but it was
Speaker 2: to someone at my same age. I still didn't have
Speaker 2: any business getting married at that age. I didn't know
Speaker 2: who I was. I didn't know what the world was
Speaker 2: really all about. And I think, you know, especially young
Speaker 2: women might think that they know, but I'm concer when
Speaker 2: it's that age. If you've got some woman in her
Speaker 2: thirties dating someone in her in his fifties or sixties,
Speaker 2: that's fine, she's lived enough.
Speaker 1: Like that's what it is. Yeah, Okay, that's what it is.
Speaker 1: That's what it is. Okay. That's the key to all
Speaker 1: of this, because if I was talking about a forty
Speaker 1: year old woman dating a seventy year old man, Okay, Wow,
Speaker 1: they make it work. But you're not looking at her
Speaker 1: as being in some way manipulated.
Speaker 2: And I think that's the concern. Is there any sort
Speaker 2: of manipulation or just a not even an intentional one.
Speaker 2: But it just seems like that would have to be
Speaker 2: the case because there's just such a big learning gap
Speaker 2: of life.
Speaker 1: Let's make sure we are not suggesting Belichick or Charlotte,
Speaker 1: we're just making sure we just say that once again, yes,
Speaker 1: that's not the suggestion at all. But part of the
Speaker 1: age gap goes into the next story that was making headlines,
Speaker 1: having to do it with people marry couples in some
Speaker 1: instances not living together, voluntarily living sometime in the same
Speaker 1: town and not far, not cross country all the time,
Speaker 1: but choosing to live in two different homes. And some
Speaker 1: of them say they do it because to your point,
Speaker 1: there's such an age gap sometimes that you live differently.
Speaker 2: Exactly like some people like to go out and party
Speaker 2: at night and some people like to sleep in and
Speaker 2: it just makes sense for them. There's actually a term
Speaker 2: now that they've coined. Correct. It's called a part a partners.
Speaker 1: Eight partners, so partners with an A in front of it.
Speaker 1: So essentially apart. Nurse.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they are apart, but they are partners, so uh, partners, yes.
Speaker 2: And look, we've had several people come out and talk
Speaker 2: about this. Sarah Paulson, who is fifty, I believe in
Speaker 2: her partner, Holland Taylor is eighty two, and she said,
Speaker 2: you know, she was just talking about this, saying, look,
Speaker 2: when we're together, we're we like to sleep next to
Speaker 2: each other, we like to fall asleep holding each other's hands.
Speaker 2: But Sarah said, I've had a couple serious relationships. Holland
Speaker 2: never has, and so for me to constantly be in
Speaker 2: her space, it would probably tear us apart. So we
Speaker 2: need two separate homes because she's used to living a
Speaker 2: certain way. She's set in her ways to an extent.
Speaker 2: She's eighty two years old, and she doesn't need me
Speaker 2: coming in messing everything up. So that works for us.
Speaker 1: Surelee Ralph, we love her, of course, but she lives
Speaker 1: cross country from her husband. That it works. I think
Speaker 1: he's in Philly. She's in La Yeah, cross and she's smile.
Speaker 1: We've talked to her about it personally. She beams a
Speaker 1: big old smile talking about it. Yes, it's been they've
Speaker 1: been doing it for years. It works.
Speaker 2: They get they love their alone time. And I think
Speaker 2: if you have two people who say, hey, I need
Speaker 2: I don't just love, I need my alone time and
Speaker 2: it works for them, you know what, it's interesting and
Speaker 2: some people question whether or not it's real, if they're
Speaker 2: actually monogamous or serious, but by all accounts, it works
Speaker 2: and it's successful. Another one Gwinneth Healthrow and her husband
Speaker 2: Brad Falschuk. They actually live in the same city, but
Speaker 2: they have two different houses. And I think When's kids
Speaker 2: are the same age as mine, so it's not like
Speaker 2: she's got young kids. I would understand that maybe if
Speaker 2: you don't want to necessarily have a new man in
Speaker 2: their lives. But now her kids are grown, and she
Speaker 2: just said, this works for.
Speaker 1: Us, And that's the bottom line. If it works where you,
Speaker 1: it works for you. There are some people, and I
Speaker 1: mean a lot of people can relate to being with
Speaker 1: someone or being in a relationship that is not great
Speaker 1: for your sleeping habits because that other person comes to
Speaker 1: bed late, likes it hot, likes it cold, wants the
Speaker 1: TV on has different We have this issue I shouldn't
Speaker 1: say issue. Yeah, it's an issue that I have I'm
Speaker 1: set in my ways when it comes to sleep. I
Speaker 1: struggle even sleeping when I don't have the TV on
Speaker 1: a certain amount of noise that is not your jam.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you sleep with a TV on. Yes, you like
Speaker 2: to lay not vertically on the bed like most people,
Speaker 2: but completely across it like horizontally.
Speaker 1: It has to do with the TV, yep, because.
Speaker 2: You're wanting to watch the TV. You like it warm.
Speaker 1: You you like the heat on he being.
Speaker 2: You don't like a cold room. So I always laugh,
Speaker 2: you know, because you have some sleep issues, and we
Speaker 2: all do, but you I've talked about them for over
Speaker 2: the years. But any sleep expert will tell you should
Speaker 2: have your room dark, cold and quiet. You like your
Speaker 2: sleeping environment loud, and I'm talking like gunfire, like loud, bright,
Speaker 2: because the TV is bright and warm.
Speaker 1: Okay, that was our compromise. I don't put on action
Speaker 1: movies anymore.
Speaker 2: And you turn down the brightness on the television.
Speaker 1: You're welcome to help me.
Speaker 2: You are welcome, and I yes, And I've compromised on
Speaker 2: the heat.
Speaker 1: So in that situation, will we be better off sleeping separately?
Speaker 1: Sleeping in separate places.
Speaker 2: I don't like.
Speaker 1: But some people say yes, it's better for your health
Speaker 1: than even your mental health sometimes to be a part.
Speaker 1: I love being with this person, I love spending time
Speaker 1: with this person, but being in bed together night doesn't work.
Speaker 2: I'm not there yet. But look, Cameron Diaz just talked
Speaker 2: about this with her husband. They have separate bedrooms, and people,
Speaker 2: you know, people are like what she's like. It works
Speaker 2: for us. I mean a lot of times people have
Speaker 2: snoring issues. Separate bedrooms, they have separate bedroom, they live
Speaker 2: in the same house.
Speaker 1: You can't just go to the couch like the rest
Speaker 1: of us.
Speaker 2: Kind of feels like, didn't they do that in the
Speaker 2: olden days? Were like retire to your own bedroom and
Speaker 2: the husbands would say, can I come visit you? But yeah,
Speaker 2: everyone had You know, I know a lot of people
Speaker 2: who really believe in separate bathrooms. And if you're lucky
Speaker 2: enough to have a enough for that, I'll support that.
Speaker 2: I feel like that's a good thing too.
Speaker 1: Yes, I need want to cut my hair in.
Speaker 2: Yes I know, Okay, I'm very aware of that. I
Speaker 2: was actually going to suggest that.
Speaker 1: Okay, the other excuse me, the other story I had
Speaker 1: everybody talking was one that really if you've been in
Speaker 1: a relationship longer than what six months or a year.
Speaker 1: You'll find this very difficult to believe. A couple that's
Speaker 1: been married more than a decade now says not once
Speaker 1: in their relationship have they fought? Not one time? Not once?
Speaker 1: Do you buy that? How is that possible?
Speaker 2: I don't know how it's possible. Okay, you know I've lived,
Speaker 2: I've had several relationships and never once has that ever
Speaker 2: been true. And I would say, ah, I mean, if
Speaker 2: you most I mean I've also had a lot of therapy,
Speaker 2: most therapists would say that it's that isn't possible. That
Speaker 2: you're just pushing it down and then you're growing apart
Speaker 2: because you just refused. You if you're not willing to
Speaker 2: talk about someone always has to do something that annoys
Speaker 2: you or upsets you or isn't what you would have
Speaker 2: preferred or you disagree with, especially when you're raising children.
Speaker 2: And so to think that there's never been a conflict,
Speaker 2: there's never been. And I don't know if they're saying, well,
Speaker 2: fighting is one thing and disagreeing is another. But it
Speaker 2: just it's hard for me to imagine that you can't
Speaker 2: get annoyed or pissed or angry at somebody who you love.
Speaker 1: Okay, and the couple we're talking about is not just
Speaker 1: any old random couple talking about George and Maul Clooney.
Speaker 1: They have talked about this now for years, but he
Speaker 1: was talking about it recently and an interview, you know,
Speaker 1: it was CBS News. Again. They just keep doing stuff
Speaker 1: over there. He said that they have never once, not
Speaker 1: about the trash, not about anything minor, certainly nothing major.
Speaker 1: Never once. She said, they've gotten to a point that
Speaker 1: there's a family member of her I think a cousin
Speaker 1: that every time she runs into it's the first thing
Speaker 1: out of his mouth. You guys thought yet, like it's
Speaker 1: a thing that everybody know. I just don't know how
Speaker 1: it's possible. And you talk about therapy, don't the therapist
Speaker 1: tell you, isn't a sign something's wrong if you're not fighting?
Speaker 2: Yes, So I did have a relationship where we almost
Speaker 2: never didn't, especially like the last several years. And you
Speaker 2: know what it was. It was apathy, I mean, And
Speaker 2: that's how it was described to me, that you're literally numb.
Speaker 2: You don't care what the other person thinks, so you
Speaker 2: can't even be bothered to fight about it. That to
Speaker 2: me is what no fighting means, especially if you've been
Speaker 2: together for a certain period of time, you just lose
Speaker 2: interest in giving a shit, like you just don't care
Speaker 2: what they think.
Speaker 1: We're not suggesting that's what George all are, but that
Speaker 1: is give a lot of disclaimers.
Speaker 2: And I'm sorry. I'm sorry, but I was just thinking,
Speaker 2: you know, that's not I'm not assigning that to anyone,
Speaker 2: but that's just what I have experience, and that's what
Speaker 2: a therapist told me, Like, it's not healthy not to fight.
Speaker 1: It's not help. But if it short of apathy, isn't
Speaker 1: there like two people, why are you not? Again, you've
Speaker 1: been the more therapist than I have. I'm just what
Speaker 1: else do they suggest? I thought you've talked about this before,
Speaker 1: that it's just not a good son. Why are you not?
Speaker 1: I guess maybe it is all apathy. But can you
Speaker 1: be happy and not fight? Why? I don't know how
Speaker 1: a disagreement doesn't come up ever?
Speaker 2: I mean, other than like living a life of a monk,
Speaker 2: I can't imagine. I mean, yes, I would always prefer
Speaker 2: to choose peace, and I try to remind myself of that.
Speaker 2: It's better to be okay, it's better to be kind
Speaker 2: than to be right, Like I try to have that
Speaker 2: going on in a loop in my head, and also
Speaker 2: just recognizing your own ego. I don't know how much
Speaker 2: work they've done on themselves, but it's it's remarkable to
Speaker 2: the point that it feels unbelievable. But I'm so happy
Speaker 2: for them if that actually is the case, and I
Speaker 2: would love for them to talk more about it and
Speaker 2: what they if they have to have, like a mental
Speaker 2: discipline where they've learned to breathe through when someone says
Speaker 2: something instead of immediately reacting. I count to tent like
Speaker 2: whatever it is, because to tell me that emotionally inside
Speaker 2: they haven't felt a reaction of anger or disagreement or
Speaker 2: frustration or annoyance, that to me is humanly impossible.
Speaker 1: So it's just how they handle it, then yes, So if.
Speaker 2: They have been able to not show that in a
Speaker 2: way that created a reaction from the other part, because
Speaker 2: that's obviously, then that's amazing And I would love to
Speaker 2: hear more about it, And I think that the world
Speaker 2: would love to hear how they do it, because honestly,
Speaker 2: I think all of it, don't we all wouldn't we
Speaker 2: all love to be able to have an immediate filter,
Speaker 2: process it and then not say something unkind or say
Speaker 2: something that you're gonna want to take back like that
Speaker 2: would be amazing, And I.
Speaker 1: Don't want to folks will. I mean, these are folks
Speaker 1: who seem to be, at least from my vantage point,
Speaker 1: living pretty good lives. And I say living pretty good lives.
Speaker 1: They have luxuries and experiences that most people just don't get.
Speaker 1: So I don't want to us just to go through this,
Speaker 1: and because a lot of people will roll their eyes. Okay,
Speaker 1: perfect couple in pictures. Now you're telling me they're perfect
Speaker 1: at home?
Speaker 2: Right they live where?
Speaker 1: Well? The someone wrote that, say, hey, I get they
Speaker 1: called BS on the whole thing, and I wish I
Speaker 1: could give this person credit the whole article calling BS
Speaker 1: on this and then at the end saying, well, I
Speaker 1: guess if I lived at a house on Lake Como,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have anything to fight about either, So that
Speaker 1: you have to at least acknowledge you just some people
Speaker 1: will roll their eyes a little bit, But you're right.
Speaker 1: I would absolutely love to hear more about it and
Speaker 1: how they do it. We should try it. How long
Speaker 1: can we go without a fight?
Speaker 2: Well, you know what, I was counting. I didn't even
Speaker 2: tell you this, but we did go and this is
Speaker 2: a probably the longest stretch. We went four months without fighting.
Speaker 1: Four months. No it's not, yes, yes it was.
Speaker 2: It was from Christmas Eve all the way until about
Speaker 2: two weeks ago. We really know, we know. We did
Speaker 2: not believe me. I remember, it's gutting when we do.
Speaker 2: We went four months. We went four months, and.
Speaker 1: I was an Osha calendar in twenty days without an accident.
Speaker 2: I don't remember a lot of things, but you know, literally,
Speaker 2: I do have an Oha calendar in my head. And
Speaker 2: it's funny because when we got into the last fight,
Speaker 2: you know, it was it was devastating to me because
Speaker 2: I was so excited. We were like, I wanted to
Speaker 2: tell you, but I didn't want to jinx it, so
Speaker 2: I was keeping it to myself. But now at this moment,
Speaker 2: I'm letting you know we went four months.
Speaker 1: I didn't. I wasn't counting. Apparently that's just that's what
Speaker 1: we should do. So uh, yeah, George and Maul, don't
Speaker 1: listen to us. We clearly haven't figured this shit out.
Speaker 1: But folks, yes, we've been wanted to talk, but we
Speaker 1: didn't expect to extra record this. And we we've been
Speaker 1: talking and buzzing about some of these stories and saying, hey,
Speaker 1: we should do a pocket, we should do a podka,
Speaker 1: But then finally one more came along and there you
Speaker 1: have it. So hope you guys not out of this.
Speaker 1: Please listen to your tall Have.
Speaker 2: A great day, everybody. M hm