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Speaker 1: From the RAMS studio connected by AT and T. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to Between the Horns. It is March seventh. I'm Miles Simmons.

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Speaker 1: I'm joined by Voice of the Rams, Jblong, and there's

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Speaker 1: a lot to get you. The combine just happened. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk a little bit about that. But free agency obviously

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Speaker 1: opens on Thursday. JB. And there are some things coming

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Speaker 1: out right now about the Los Angeles Rams, and not

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Speaker 1: necessarily free agency, but about Trumain Johnson and the rumor

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Speaker 1: that the Rams could possibly be shopping him around for

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Speaker 1: a potential trade. Just your reaction, Well, first, you were

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Speaker 1: on it this morning nine am, right, you had the

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Speaker 1: what do you call the tampering period. Yeah, it's the

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Speaker 1: legal tamper tampering. That was a great way to start

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Speaker 1: this day on might drive into work. So on Tremaine,

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Speaker 1: I'm glad that they exercise their option to franchise tag him.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad Tremaine signed on the dotted line as soon

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Speaker 1: as possible. I don't blame him to me, that was

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Speaker 1: just kind of the start of the conversation because I

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Speaker 1: think each of those moves made sense in their own right,

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Speaker 1: but I'm not sure that paying one player seventeen million

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Speaker 1: dollars to play corner for the Rams team in twenty

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Speaker 1: seventeen is an ideal scenario. Now, By putting that franchise

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Speaker 1: tag on him for the second year in a row,

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Speaker 1: I think the Rams should be and are willing to

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Speaker 1: do so if necessary, and they won't be upset if

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Speaker 1: he ends up playing for them and hopefully plays at

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Speaker 1: a level that warrants that price. But if there's another

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Speaker 1: scenario out there that allows them to recoup some of

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Speaker 1: that cap space and maybe deal Tremaine to a situation

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Speaker 1: that makes as much or more sense to him long term,

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Speaker 1: and I'll include Los Angeles in that conversation. Being willing

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Speaker 1: to trade him I also would, I think, be part

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Speaker 1: of being willing to sign him to a longer extension

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Speaker 1: if the price was right and the years were right.

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Speaker 1: The interesting thing about this Johnson stories that I think

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Speaker 1: all of what the Rams have kind of done to

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Speaker 1: the point makes sense because Chermaine Johnson is a very

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Speaker 1: good corner, right. I don't can we put him in

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Speaker 1: the elite conversation? In that elite category, I don't know

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Speaker 1: if he's there yet. I think he has a chance

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Speaker 1: to possibly be there. Particularly if he is coached by

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Speaker 1: a guy like a Wade Phillips, who we have seen

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Speaker 1: take defenses and take defensive players and make them into

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Speaker 1: elite level players. Right. But at the same time, I think,

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Speaker 1: like you said, you know, when you have that franchise

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Speaker 1: tag number, he's gonna be under that for the second

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Speaker 1: year in a row. You have a RAMS team that

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Speaker 1: has not had a winning season in years. But I

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Speaker 1: mean you look at the last five years of the

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Speaker 1: last regime, right, you have seven wins for four of

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Speaker 1: those excuse me, three of those seasons, six for one

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Speaker 1: and then four and twelve in twenty sixteen. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: sort of like you have to ask yourself, Okay, is

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Speaker 1: this a player that we know we can build around

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Speaker 1: for the future, or if the price is right and

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Speaker 1: if somebody gives us the best all, can we then

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Speaker 1: move this player and get a good draft pick invest

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Speaker 1: you know, in that younger kind of group of players,

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Speaker 1: because this is a deep secondary draft by all accounts.

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Speaker 1: But then you also by doing that would eliminate a

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Speaker 1: lot of cat room. You know, you would gain some

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Speaker 1: of it back because all that money right now is

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Speaker 1: on the books for Truemain Johnson and so if you did,

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Speaker 1: if you then weren't you trade at Truemain Johnson, you

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Speaker 1: get that cap space back, that's something that you can

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Speaker 1: then maybe hey say, hey, you know, I'm going to

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Speaker 1: invest this into a different position in terms of free agency,

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Speaker 1: and then you go into the draft and then maybe

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Speaker 1: you draft a corner or you draft a safety your

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Speaker 1: secondary guy there. Yeah, I don't disagree that Wade Phillips

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Speaker 1: and his staff have the potential and the intention of

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Speaker 1: making Truemain Johnson a All Pro caliber player or near that,

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Speaker 1: But I would also point out that he's had seasons

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Speaker 1: similar to that level under the previous regime and under

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Speaker 1: Greg Williams, so maybe he'll have the chance to be

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Speaker 1: reunited with that system. Will see. When you look for

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Speaker 1: potential trade partners, I would think there'd be a couple

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Speaker 1: those franchises at the start of free agency, and then

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Speaker 1: the other would be kind of ready to win right now.

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Speaker 1: Is Tremaine the piece that takes your defense from being

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Speaker 1: a division contender to a division winner or from being

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Speaker 1: a playoff team to a Super Bowl contender. If there's

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Speaker 1: that match, then hopefully from the RAND standpoint, if a

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Speaker 1: the trade partners who are most likely to offer you

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Speaker 1: a compensation that you would be interested in. Right. And

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Speaker 1: the original port came out from Ian Rappaport just about

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Speaker 1: I think ten minutes before noon Pacific here in LA.

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Speaker 1: And then the next thing that has come out then

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Speaker 1: since Ian Rappaport tweeted that is he also put out there,

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Speaker 1: you know, keep an eye on the Cleveland Browns as

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Speaker 1: one of those potential landing spots. And of course you

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Speaker 1: know when you're talking about the Browns, you've got Greg Williams,

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Speaker 1: former Ramse defensive coordinator. He is the defensive coordin over

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Speaker 1: in Cleveland now, and that I think would make it

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Speaker 1: a pretty good steam fit. You know, you talk about

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Speaker 1: somebody who already knows who the player is and how

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Speaker 1: he plays and all that kind of thing. So and

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Speaker 1: they also of course have a boatload of money in

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Speaker 1: cap room, and then that is also again going to

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Speaker 1: help you facilitate what would obviously be a long term

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Speaker 1: deal if you're going to make that kind of move. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I think from the ram standpoint, you're looking for

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Speaker 1: what might be a better fit for twenty seventeen and beyond, right,

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Speaker 1: would you be willing to trade one expensive year of

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Speaker 1: Tremaine Johnson. Let's just operate on the assumption that he

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Speaker 1: is not interested or does not strategically want to sign

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Speaker 1: a long term extension when he could just play one

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Speaker 1: year on seventeen million. Are you in a position in

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Speaker 1: what is described as one of the deepest position groups

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Speaker 1: in this draft class to get someone in the second,

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Speaker 1: maybe the third round who might be able to give

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Speaker 1: you four the option of five years of service at

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Speaker 1: a much less expensive level and maybe build along the

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Speaker 1: same timelines as the trajectory of your roster. To me,

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Speaker 1: that would be ideal. And I think from everything I've

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Speaker 1: seen and read about this class, which has been described

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Speaker 1: as from the corner and safety position, the best that

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Speaker 1: some analysts have ever seen, I think there's good potential

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Speaker 1: to get a player who in short order could perform

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Speaker 1: at a Tremaine Johnson level. I mean, that's the hope,

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Speaker 1: that's what you would go looking for, right exactly. So

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Speaker 1: if we, you know, sort of take this hypothetical a

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Speaker 1: for Trumaine Johnson, Well, you'd have to see who your

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Speaker 1: trade partner is and what the extension terms are, right,

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Speaker 1: because you know, I don't think there's a great price

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Speaker 1: he's someone who you can build your secondary around on

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Speaker 1: an extension, that that might be a different story. And again,

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Speaker 1: my target area from this side, as someone being willing

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Speaker 1: to part with someone of Tremaine's talent would be where

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Speaker 1: do we need to be in terms of a draft

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Speaker 1: replacement I don't want to see replacement value because you

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Speaker 1: can't bank on any college player coming in and doing

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Speaker 1: what True does for this defense. But replacement potential sure

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Speaker 1: don't know second round pick, third round pick, because that's

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Speaker 1: kind of what I would be thinking. Late second, early

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Speaker 1: because I saw on Twitter, you know, these rumors start

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Speaker 1: get this could be the first round pick replacement And

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Speaker 1: I just think, because of a lot of factors, you

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Speaker 1: gotta temper that because you know, true, Maine is a

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Speaker 1: he should have gone probably after the twenty fifteen season

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Speaker 1: But then you know, you look at his performance and

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Speaker 1: this is something that less sneed brought up to. You know,

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Speaker 1: you got all those takeaways in twenty fifteen, then you

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Speaker 1: So you got to look at that and sort of ask, Okay,

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Speaker 1: what happened? Why did that happen? And I think one

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Speaker 1: of the factors could even be that Genors Jenkins was

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Speaker 1: been the case the previous four years. So I think

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Speaker 1: it's all of those things that if you could get

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Speaker 1: might be a good value for trading somebody of Johnson's

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Speaker 1: color it to your quick point, they're about not getting

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Speaker 1: The good news is there seemed to be a good

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Speaker 1: number of safeties and corners with first round grades who

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Speaker 1: will still be available at thirty seven, So even though

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Speaker 1: Tremaine Johnson. Again, these are massive hypotheticals. Yes, maybe if

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Speaker 1: you know you have another one in the second or

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Speaker 1: kind of want to get to with Truemain Johnson. It's

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Speaker 1: sort of less sneed less sneeds comments last week at

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Speaker 1: the combine, which I thought were interesting and to me

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Speaker 1: it made sense what he was saying, and that was

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Speaker 1: to tag him because you want to be cautious when

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Speaker 1: you're going a long term right And he said, you know,

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Speaker 1: how does Truemain Johnson fit with the new defensive scheme?

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Speaker 1: How does he mesh with the coaches, you want to

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Speaker 1: they're not necessarily just going to have Truemain Johnson play

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Speaker 1: out this year on this one year deal, but what

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Speaker 1: those OTAs, during that offseason program. And then he said lesson,

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Speaker 1: He said, you know, after that, then there's a window

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Speaker 1: in June July up until that July fifteenth deadline where

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Speaker 1: they could maybe get something worked out. So if there

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Speaker 1: is no trade, then there still is that long term

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Speaker 1: deal potential for the Rams and Truemain Johnson. It makes sense.

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Speaker 1: I would like to think that that evaluation in terms

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Speaker 1: of whether or not you would like this individual to

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Speaker 1: be here long term, is maybe a little bit more

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Speaker 1: readily available in terms of what you're seeing in game

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Speaker 1: OTA's But I think the timeline for what you're saying

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Speaker 1: makes sense. That to have the right to negotiate out

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Speaker 1: until that deadline of July fifteenth, you needed to take

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Speaker 1: this step first, right exactly. And so then you know

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Speaker 1: when Truemain Johnson comes in and he signs it, well,

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Speaker 1: that that does two things. I mean, it allows the

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Speaker 1: Rams to be able to trade him, but also makes

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Speaker 1: to get Todd Girley better at into being this complete

432
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Speaker 1: running back is the pass protection element. So I think

433
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:23,879
Speaker 1: that's something that they want to work on with Girly

434
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Speaker 1: regardless to keep him on the field. But you know,

435
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Speaker 1: Cunningham can get out there, he can block for you,

436
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 1: and then he can make the receptions and he makes

437
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,919
Speaker 1: people miss. And so any delivered I mean, to my

438
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 1: eye in twenty sixteen, whether it's Tampa Bay or Carolina

439
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,600
Speaker 1: was another one where he just made a huge game

440
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Speaker 1: extending plays right, not to mention that he's a top

441
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Speaker 1: five kick returner in the game, and that's exactly where

442
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Speaker 1: I was going to next. I mean, yeah, he's been

443
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Speaker 1: that for the last three seasons, and I think you

444
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,560
Speaker 1: know that would only continue. You would have to assume

445
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 1: with bones Fossil still staying on as the special team's coordinator.

446
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,719
Speaker 1: So these are all positions that he fills and does

447
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,040
Speaker 1: a good job and the Rams would have to replace.

448
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 1: I would love to see Benny back in the white

449
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 1: horn helmet next year, don't But you know, there's a

450
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 1: part of me that wonders if Benny would just like

451
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,159
Speaker 1: a fresh change of scenery, if he would like the

452
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 1: opportunity to demonstrate a different dimension or get more touches

453
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 1: or whatever it is. I hope he wants to be back,

454
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 1: I really do. He's a great individual in the locker

455
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 1: room and on the field. But I don't feel like

456
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 1: a lot of ink or a lot of airspace, including

457
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 1: here in our studio, has been devoted to what's what's

458
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 1: the backup plan to Todd Gurley at running back year?

459
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Speaker 1: Because well, right now, on the roster, aside from Gurley,

460
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 1: you would have Malcolm Brown and Aaron Green, right, So

461
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:43,639
Speaker 1: though both of those guys I think, right, but I

462
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 1: think those guys have some potential. But you know, Aaron Green,

463
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,719
Speaker 1: I think we could say is more of the scat

464
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Speaker 1: back type. I think Malcolm Brown probably fits a bit

465
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Speaker 1: more of what Benny Cunningham was, just in terms of

466
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:59,360
Speaker 1: the body type, more stocky, you know, a powerful back then.

467
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Speaker 1: But you watch and on draft day, whatever it is,

468
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 1: day two or day three, there will be someone at

469
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 1: that position available when the Rams picked round two, round three.

470
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Speaker 1: That make that make I think a Rams fan paus

471
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:17,159
Speaker 1: or say, what are christ McCaffrey is sitting there? I

472
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Speaker 1: don't think he's going I don't think so either, But

473
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Speaker 1: if he were, But based on current draft boards today,

474
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 1: is he that far off? He had a great combine.

475
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 1: If you don't mind a guy who can't bench press,

476
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 1: you know, he could be the next Kevin Durant in

477
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 1: that regard, right, So, yeah, that was kind of fun

478
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 1: and he wasn't mean a drail where you're going with

479
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 1: that with yeah, what are we gonna do at running back?

480
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Speaker 1: But I do think Benny and that position are kind

481
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 1: of the overlooked part of the Rams needs right now. Well,

482
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 1: I think the other thing that is going to get

483
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 1: brought up more probably as we get into free agency

484
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,640
Speaker 1: is sort of the linebacker position too, because there are

485
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 1: gonna have to be some decisions, right who are if

486
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Speaker 1: we're gonna move to this three four and the Rams

487
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 1: are going to do that. Wade Phillips is very clear

488
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 1: in that he likes the three four better than the

489
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 1: fourth three because he says it's better because you don't

490
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Speaker 1: know where that fourth rusher is going to come from.

491
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,959
Speaker 1: So then who are going to be your outside linebackers?

492
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,440
Speaker 1: Your your rushers are? Is one of them going to

493
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Speaker 1: be Robert Quinn? I think that you know he's he's

494
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,160
Speaker 1: a pass rusher, right, I think that's a fair assumption

495
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 1: to think that he's going to be out there rushing

496
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Speaker 1: the passer. Your two inside guys, are those gonna be

497
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,159
Speaker 1: Ogletree and Barren? At the way it stands now, it

498
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 1: probably would be, But you've got to sort of fill

499
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Speaker 1: out these roles. Maybe Josh Forrest coming back. Josh Forrest

500
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 1: is going to be another one of those guys that's

501
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 1: in the mix, I mean, other guys on the roster.

502
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 1: Corey Littleton, Bryce Hager, those guys are all probably going

503
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,879
Speaker 1: to be in the mix for some of these jobs,

504
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:50,919
Speaker 1: unless we seem once free free agency hits, you know,

505
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 1: some guys may start trickling down in that regard, and

506
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,400
Speaker 1: then in the draft too, it's probably in a position

507
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Speaker 1: that they're going to want to address the line. The

508
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 1: free agent linebacker group strikes me as training a little

509
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 1: bit old. Yeah, in terms of the available options. I mean,

510
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 1: let's let what Dante hi Tower is going to get

511
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,919
Speaker 1: some crazy number, right, Let's let's assume the Rams are

512
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 1: out of that game. Sure, but like DeMarcus Ware, does

513
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 1: that have like Wade Phillips reunion potential? I don't know,

514
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: Like maybe, but there's other names that are in their

515
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 1: mid to late thirties, like Robert Mathis, Julius Peppers. Is

516
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 1: he going to give it another go round? But are

517
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 1: there a lot of options kind of in the mid

518
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Speaker 1: twenties coming off a first rookie contract that you've heard

519
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 1: of that strike The one that would intrigue me would

520
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 1: be a Jabal Sheared who's played for New England. He

521
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 1: played for the Cleveland Browns as well, and so he's

522
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 1: played that sort of outside linebacker, edge rusher kind of position.

523
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 1: And so because he's got that three four experience, I think,

524
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Speaker 1: and he's only twenty eight years old, I think he

525
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 1: kind of fits that build of somebody that's in their

526
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Speaker 1: kind of mid to late twenties, that twenty seven to

527
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Speaker 1: twenty nine range that you would probably prefer as a

528
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 1: free agent because that means you're somebody and you think

529
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: they're still kind of in their prime as opposed to

530
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 1: somebody who's above thirty, you know, and you think, oh,

531
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: you know, you probably have only a couple of good years,

532
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 1: you know, one of those two years and we'll see

533
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,679
Speaker 1: contracts in the in the rookie class. I'm a big

534
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 1: fan attack McKinley's for what he did here in Los

535
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: Angeles at UCLA, and according to current draft projections, it

536
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 1: seems like there's a decent chance he might be available

537
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: to the Rams of thirty seven. And if he were,

538
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,919
Speaker 1: I wonder what their evaluation of him would be. Yeah,

539
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,120
Speaker 1: I mean there's another guy, and you brought up La

540
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 1: guys Juju Smith Schuster at wide receiver, another one kind

541
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Speaker 1: of the high second round. Yeah, second talked about in

542
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: that area, and No, I didn't necessarily watch him as

543
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 1: much as I'm sure you know a lot of our

544
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Speaker 1: audience has watched him. But he just seems to be

545
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 1: one of those guys that could be, you know, an

546
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Speaker 1: impact guy at a position of need for the Los

547
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: Angeles run help on special teams too. But yeah, there's

548
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 1: a little bit of boomer Bus potential. But I like it.

549
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,400
Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong with um A Dori and Juju Smith.

550
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: I mean not, I just see more of those guys,

551
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 1: and so I think you're always biased to who you're familiar. Probably,

552
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 1: I just like the defensive backs from Washington. And by

553
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: the way, kudos to John Ross running that that forty time.

554
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: I know you want to talk about that, but there

555
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 1: are a lot of really good Washington defensive backs, including

556
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Speaker 1: Buddha Baker, who if you do have a need at

557
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:22,120
Speaker 1: safety depending on what happens with TJ again, I would

558
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 1: vouch for guys like that based on what I've seen

559
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: from their college film. Well, we'll turn into another Washington,

560
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 1: not the college but the NFL franchise because there are

561
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 1: a couple of free agents that are coming out of

562
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 1: there that have in various ways been linked to the Rams,

563
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: probably because of their relationship with Sean McVay, and I'm

564
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: talking about DeShawn Jackson, who actually is an LA native,

565
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 1: and then Pierre Garson, both wide receivers, you know, wide

566
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 1: receiver again, this kind of position of need for the

567
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 1: LA Rams and those really, I think are two guys

568
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: that you can kind of maybe see in an LA

569
00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: Rams uniform because of their relationship with McVeigh, and no

570
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: one's going to know that better than the head coach.

571
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: So that to me is an easy one, not for

572
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: us necessarily to talk about, but I think in terms

573
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Speaker 1: of making that decision in that room, I think the

574
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: answer there will be pretty clear in terms of is

575
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: this guy worth this amount of years and this amount

576
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: of dollars. You have the authoritative source on that at

577
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 1: your disposal. I think the good news from my standpoint

578
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: is the Rams don't necessary necessarily have to over extend

579
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: themselves to get a player like that, and there's a

580
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 1: market for those players. They're gonna have some competition for

581
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 1: those players. But because of what else has come available,

582
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Speaker 1: especially in the last week or so, whether it's Stevie

583
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: Johnson today coming off a meniscus, a Brandon Marshall, the

584
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: forty nine is releasing Tory Smith. Cleveland apparently has now

585
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 1: allowed Terrell Prior to hit the free agent mark, so

586
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 1: there are more options than a month ago. I think

587
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: I would have expected at wide receiver because I do

588
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: think even if someone brilliant falls into your hands in

589
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 1: the draft, I do think at that position, if you're

590
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: going to let Kenny Britt walk, you still need someone

591
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: established and veteran because of what you need to offer

592
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 1: Jared Goffin well, right, exactly. The young quarterback issue element

593
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: of it is just that's huge. If it's not a

594
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: true number one, it's got to be a really reliable

595
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 1: number I mean, you got to have someone that he

596
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: can get the ball too. Absolutely, And I think between

597
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 1: those two guys, if I think, if I'm going to

598
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: handicap one that I think is going to be maybe

599
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: a better fit for this Ram's roster as it's currently constructed,

600
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: I might go with Garson just because DeShawn Jackson almost

601
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 1: is the sort of mold that you would like Tavon

602
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: Austin to be, you know what I mean, A shorter

603
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 1: guy where a lot of speed can get down the field. Now,

604
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 1: does Tavon Austin still have work to do in order

605
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 1: to become the caliber of a DeShawn Jackson. Obviously, yes,

606
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: But at the same time, you know, now with this

607
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: new offensive staff and Tavon Austin has already received a

608
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 1: significant contract extension, He's going to be on the team,

609
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: you know, going into twenty seventeen, barring any kind of trade,

610
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,479
Speaker 1: which again would mean that a team would pick up

611
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: of that pretty big, substantial contract extension. I think if

612
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: we're going to say, okay, who's a better fit right

613
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: now for this team, Garson or Deshaun Jackson, I think

614
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: would probably be Pierre Garson. This because of how it

615
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: happens sequentially, I'm not sure one impacts the other. But

616
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: the fact that there were nearly sixty wide receivers at

617
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: the combine two does that? Does that soften the competition

618
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: at all at the wide receiver position and free agency?

619
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: Is someone more inclined to say, you know what, I'll

620
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 1: take my chances on my draft board with options like

621
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Speaker 1: you know, Juju Smith Schuster and Cooper Cup and Chad

622
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 1: Hanson and on and on, as opposed to chasing big

623
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: time free agents with our budget. Who knows, even if

624
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: that takes one or two players out of the game,

625
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: Maybe that gives the Rams a better chance at an

626
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: all Shan or a Deshaun or a Pier. Yeah. I

627
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: think so too, because where the Rams are right now

628
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 1: is they need offensive playmakers, right, So, I think what

629
00:31:56,000 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: you're saying a lot of maybe applies better for some

630
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: other teams in the league, because if you're still if

631
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: you're the Rams, like if you pick up one of

632
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: these receivers, you're still trying to pick up a receiver

633
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,479
Speaker 1: in the draft in all likelihood, right, yeah, I mean,

634
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: just based on the way everything is gone. Well, what

635
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: does the new staff think of Farrell Cooper? Happy birthday

636
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: by the way, as well? I mean, would you redraft

637
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: Farrell Cooper? You know, if you could kind of go

638
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: back in time, do they feel good enough about what

639
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 1: he offers them that if he doesn't take that injury

640
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: in Denver that he might be an impact guy coming

641
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: back in year two? You know? Again, I still think

642
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: one of these free agent candidates is likely to be

643
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles because of the money that the Rams

644
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 1: have available, and because of the need given what they're

645
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: trying to do on offense, and the familiarity with the

646
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: new head coach and some of the individuals yeah, and

647
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 1: you know you brought up Farrell Cooper. I think another

648
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 1: one of these guys that is going to be talked

649
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: about is having maybe a bigger role in the offense.

650
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: And I wrote about this from the combine is Tyler Higbee,

651
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: and that's sort of because of the way McVeigh utilizes

652
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: the tight end position. He's big into using the tight

653
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: ends and he did this very well in Washington with

654
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: Jordan Reid. Now, Higbee was a lot of the time

655
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: used as an inline tight end do a lot of blocking.

656
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: He was asked to do probably more, a lot more

657
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: than he was asked to do in college. And what

658
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: I thought, you know, was one of these interesting things

659
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: that probably just happened because of matchups and maybe different

660
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: things that were going on. Was in training camp and

661
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: OTA's seemed like he was flexed out a little bit more.

662
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: You know, think of a Jimmy Graham type of Travis Kelsey,

663
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: Tyler Eiffort, somebody more like that than he was. Once

664
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: the regular season hit and he was still he was

665
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: more used as that inline tight end guy, wasn't really

666
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: going down the seam very much trying to make those

667
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: kinds of receptions, and I think with Higbee. That's what

668
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: you got to start getting out of him. That's the

669
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: way you're going to start using him well. Especially is

670
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: Lance playing next to him or opposite him or not?

671
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: That's another unanswered question. And is Tameric Hemingway part of

672
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: your future or not? And oh, by the way, in

673
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: the background, this might be the best tight end draft

674
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 1: class in the history of the combine um I wrote

675
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 1: down one comment from Mike Tanner. I think it was

676
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: like the fifth best tight end in this class would

677
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 1: probably have been the first tight end off the board

678
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 1: in prior classes. So, um, again, are you willing to

679
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: stand pad at your tight end position given the double

680
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 1: draft investment last year? Or do you feel like to

681
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 1: execute mcveigh's offense the way it ran in Washington? You

682
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 1: need to shuffle some of that deck. Yeah, you probably

683
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 1: do need to shuffle at least some of it. I mean,

684
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: the ramps were so how many, how many needs and

685
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: how many picks and how many dollars have we gone

686
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: through already? We've gone through a lot. Well daunting, It

687
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 1: is daunting, and I think that's one of these things

688
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:47,919
Speaker 1: that we've got to sort of get out there too.

689
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 1: You're not going to solve every single issue in this

690
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,479
Speaker 1: one offseason. You're just not because of the way that again,

691
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: you're you're changing a defensive scene. That's one thing, but

692
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: your offense has been number thirty two for the last

693
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,320
Speaker 1: two years, and you know it got worse from twenty

694
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: fifteen into twenty sixteen. So how does all of this

695
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: come together so that you can hopefully develop your number

696
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 1: one overall pick that is a quarterback into one of

697
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: the better guys in the league. Well, you hope you've

698
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: got the right staff to do that, but then you

699
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: got to put the personnel together to also make that happen.

700
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: And that's where I go back to. The answer is yes, right,

701
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: because somewhere along the line, you're going to have to

702
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: do more with what's existing because the entire offensive line

703
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: is not going to turn over. You're going to have

704
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 1: returning parts of that offensive line. And the challenge for

705
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 1: that position group and that coach and the head coach

706
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: is going to be can we achieve at more of

707
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: a two fifteen rather than two thy sixteen level? And

708
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: can we improve on that as well? And if not,

709
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,399
Speaker 1: you know, does does this plug in play make every

710
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 1: the other four pieces better? Because you're not. You might

711
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: be able to get one or two, you're not going

712
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: to turn over five, right if you want to get

713
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: things done in other areas. Absolutely, and it's something that

714
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 1: less Need brought up over this last week was Okay,

715
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:08,479
Speaker 1: you have your offensive line and it performed pretty much

716
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 1: at one rate in twenty fifteen, right, and you have

717
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: most of those guys that came back and then they

718
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: don't perform at that level in twenty sixteen. You have

719
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: to look at why, because, like you just said, you're

720
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: not going to turn over your entire offensive line in

721
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: all likelihoods. So I think what the Rams have got

722
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: to do is examine, Okay, where does each person best

723
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: fit across that offensive line? And I think the guy

724
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:35,919
Speaker 1: that this is going to be brought up the most

725
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 1: about is Greg Robinson, clearly. And what I thought was

726
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 1: really interesting last week was Steve basically said, when it

727
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: comes to Robinson, all the positions across the offensive line

728
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: are probably on the table, with the exception of center.

729
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 1: So it's not necessarily like they've got one thing decided,

730
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: but they've got to really still evaluate where does Greg

731
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: Robinson best fit? And you have to weigh that against

732
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: the fact that his body type is probably the best

733
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: you can ever ask for a tackle in the S

734
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: straight out of central cast exactly. But it's going to

735
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: be a tough market along that offensive line because behind

736
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: it in the draft it's a soft draft class. So

737
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 1: that's going to drive up the price of a lot

738
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: of the free agents that you're already seeing the dollars

739
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: that they're going to command. And are the Rams willing

740
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 1: to pay over what they've drafted to replace someone that

741
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 1: they've put some draft equity in or would they risk

742
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: standing relatively pad Again, you're not going to see that

743
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 1: same group back intact, but but will they be willing

744
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: to give guys second or third chances under new leadership

745
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: to try and maximize the potential that they saw two

746
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: or three years ago exactly? And so to that end,

747
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,720
Speaker 1: I mean names I put on this sort of list

748
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,399
Speaker 1: here that the Rams might look at when it comes

749
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: to offensive wine guards. Kevin Zeiler from Cincinnati, T J.

750
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 1: Lang from Green Bay, zis twenty seven, Lang is twenty nine.

751
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: So again you're looking in that you know, twenty six

752
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 1: to twenty nine range. You want to get guys probably

753
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: before they're on that edge of thirty Russell Hung from

754
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: Denver also twenty eight, or war for Detroit twenty six,

755
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: Runald Lei from Dallas twenty eight. S Again, it's like,

756
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 1: if you're looking at these guys, you want to make

757
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: sure that if the Rams are going to sign them,

758
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,280
Speaker 1: they're likely going to be here for a little while.

759
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: Not you're not probably going to look for that thirty

760
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: one and older range. Truth be told, full disclosure here,

761
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 1: I have not had much time or bandwit to devote

762
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: to watching interior offensive line play for the Cincinnati Bengals.

763
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: So I will I will defer to coach Cromer on

764
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: that one and trust that the best possible product will

765
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: be found between him between coach, between Lessneden and next season. Yeah, exactly.

766
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 1: So I don't know if we if we do, you know,

767
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 1: but if you want to pay Larry war for for

768
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: five years and sixty million dollars, I'm on board. Also,

769
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 1: if the Rams do so happen to pick up one

770
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 1: of these guys, will probably doing all twenty two on them.

771
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: So that is how you will be able to get it.

772
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 1: I will be watching, yes, I will. I will be

773
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 1: briefing myself off of that thing. Excellent. So you brought

774
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 1: this up early, but I do want to get into

775
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 1: this John Ross's four point two two forty at the Combine. Now,

776
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: where did you see it first? What was your reaction? Uh?

777
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: You know I heard about it first. I forget where.

778
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: I think I was doing basketball or something like that.

779
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: Um So, I honestly I thought he had the potential

780
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: to do it. I'm still surprised he did it because

781
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: of what an achievement it is. But I remember doing

782
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: Washington games when he was injured and seeing how much

783
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,479
Speaker 1: they often struggled. And then from the moment he set

784
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: footback on the field, how everything fell into place. Yeah,

785
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: I mean it was from from day one last September.

786
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: So I'm happy for him. Maybe if he had played

787
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: his shoe cards differently, he would be a little bit wealthier, right,

788
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: I know that one's probably bugging me. It's bugging me

789
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: a lot. Like bro, if you saw my reaction on

790
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: Twitter on Saturday when this happened, spell that out, Spell

791
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: that out. Well. It was funny because when we when

792
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: you hear about this, and Indita is does this marketing

793
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: camp and every year, right, they give a million dollars

794
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,839
Speaker 1: if somebody is going to break the records set by

795
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: Chris Johnson of the four point two four forty, so

796
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 1: you naturally assume that, well, okay, we got to back

797
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: up even further because this year they said they're giving

798
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: away a private island. And when I first heard that,

799
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,919
Speaker 1: I was like about a million, right, yes, worth at

800
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 1: worth at or less that I don't know what the

801
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: going rate for an island is, but apparently it's a million.

802
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 1: I don't either, and they apparently so they picked Adidas

803
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: picked out like four or five island spots and they

804
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: get to pick this island that they one was off

805
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: the coast of Maine or something like. I don't know

806
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 1: why you necessarily want an island. That's not where I

807
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: would want my island. I sure it's beautiful, but it

808
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: probably is, but if it's an island, I want it,

809
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: like I want a private island. I've been thinking about

810
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 1: this for a long time. I know you've got to

811
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 1: pay for all the upkeep and things like that, but like,

812
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: if you're gonna give me an island, I want the island.

813
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 1: And so that's why I was particularly disappointed on Saturday

814
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: when I see that he's run this four point two

815
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 1: two forty, which was funny because so I'm in the

816
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: media room media center in the Indiana Convention Center, right,

817
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: So they've got this on the TV because all of

818
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: us are trying to write our stories, so everybody knows

819
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: John Ross has a chance to break the record. But

820
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,760
Speaker 1: when he is running the forty time on the TV,

821
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 1: they don't show how fast he's running. So everybody's like,

822
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,399
Speaker 1: what what in the world, what's going on? You don't

823
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 1: see his time post when he crosses the line, right,

824
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 1: because usually when they go through it, every you can

825
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: see their time as it's going and they stop it

826
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 1: when when the clock when he crosses line. So for him,

827
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 1: everybody is like, why isn't the time showing up? Why

828
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: isn't the time showing up? And then they show four

829
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: point two two, and the entire room is like whoa oh.

830
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: And so then of course I'm on Twitter like four

831
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,280
Speaker 1: point two two? Question mark? Question mark? Is that an island?

832
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: Because I think that he's wearing Adida's like, that's cool,

833
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: it's amazing, he's gonna get an island. And this fool's

834
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 1: wearing Nike. Why are you wearing Nike? What are you doing?

835
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: Come on, man, I haven't seen his Nike contract, but

836
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 1: give it and what he ran, I'm guessing he can

837
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 1: buy a couple of islands. He well, he better be

838
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:05,720
Speaker 1: able to buy a couple of islands. But it's also

839
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 1: I think a missed opportunity for Adidas because look, if

840
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: you know, this guy has a chance to set this record,

841
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 1: and you gotta go hard after this guy. Right, they

842
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 1: should have, they should have gone harder. But you know

843
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: he is in the Pacific Northwest and Washington right, so

844
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: Oregon just down the road. Nike school, Nike school and

845
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: all that. I'm just I'm I'm just saying, like, if

846
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: if I have a chance to win a private island,

847
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,800
Speaker 1: I'm going for the private island. The other money be damned.

848
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: What are the three things you're bringing to that private island?

849
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:42,240
Speaker 1: This is a really good question. The three thing Well,

850
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 1: if if, what if Reva's Island is your neighbor, Well,

851
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: then Revas it's a resort. Now, haven't you heard that

852
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: it's open for business. It's not just a stranded desert island. No.

853
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 1: I like this question. I want to answer this. The

854
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:59,280
Speaker 1: three things I'm bringing to my private island, um, probably

855
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 1: a good music sound system, a mosquito net, and a

856
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: comfortable place to sleep, not sleeping on the sand. No,

857
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 1: definitely not sleeping on the sand. I need I need

858
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: a matchups, a bed or a luxurious hammock. Yeah, a

859
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 1: mosquito net. Yeah, but you probably don't need if you're

860
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: in Maine. But we'll assume that it's okay. Yeah, it's

861
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,800
Speaker 1: a more tropical acquired first sound. That's that's a miles

862
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,320
Speaker 1: idea of seclusion. Yeah. I think it would be amazing.

863
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: I need something. Well, hopefully I have materials to cook

864
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 1: with somebody else. Somebody else has got to be there

865
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 1: for me, because I can't. I'm not a fisher or fisherman,

866
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 1: one of whatever word I'm supposed to be. I wonder

867
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 1: if you could airbnb an island for enough money to

868
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 1: make it worth the while, the upkeep and magnets. Yeah,

869
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: because John I think is going to be occupied. He's

870
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: not going to have the opportunity. No, but he said

871
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: he doesn't have a boat, and he said he doesn't

872
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: swim very well. All of these things I don't think matter.

873
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: Who doesn't like a beach party, come on, you need

874
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 1: to so whatever. But speaking of beach parties, somebody who

875
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 1: on this set right now, it went to someplace with

876
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: a lot of beaches, and it wasn't. I think I'm

877
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 1: going to disappoint you, though, because you know, truth be told, Yes,

878
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,399
Speaker 1: my wife is from Honolulu and still has family there,

879
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 1: so we do go once or twice per year and

880
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 1: it's a wonderful time and I'm really glad that we

881
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 1: got to go this year. But it was it was

882
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: a little windy, a little cool, and we had some

883
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 1: family obligations and a few other to do, so it

884
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,280
Speaker 1: wasn't It wasn't necessarily a toze in the sand vacation,

885
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,399
Speaker 1: and with a ten month old at home, I'm not

886
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 1: sure that. I'm not sure there's going to be one

887
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 1: of those anywhere in our immediate future anyway. But yeah,

888
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 1: you've had your your time to get away, and Danny

889
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 1: has as well, and we all need to recharge. But

890
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: coming back this week and being here with you is

891
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 1: I think this is the first time I've been anxious

892
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:55,839
Speaker 1: for the next season, Like, this is the first time

893
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: where I'm like, man, it feels like kickoff is a

894
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: long way away. How is this time going to past? Yeah,

895
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 1: I'm sure it will. Well, you know, the thing is,

896
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 1: once you get through this month, I mean the offseason

897
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 1: program starts eight. I look at that. Ye, so and

898
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 1: it's not like, you know, we'll we'll be able to

899
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: cover everything that's going on at the Fair. Don't get

900
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 1: to start earlier this year because of the coaching staff.

901
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 1: I thought, so um McVey keep saying April tenth when

902
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 1: he was talking to the media, So I guess maybe

903
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: it goes a little bit longer to um even things

904
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: out in that particular way. But I don't know, get

905
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 1: some clarification on that, and we absolutely we'll get some

906
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: clarification on that so before we go. Okay, so people,

907
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 1: if you've been watching this on the Rams dot com,

908
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: you could probably notice that, like, I'm really super casual today,

909
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,879
Speaker 1: like more than yeah pepper. So I'm wearing my red

910
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 1: hot Chili pepper shirt. No vest, yes, no vest. I

911
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 1: know it's a little too warm for the vest. Now

912
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: it's like it's reached the seventy degree threshold, thank good

913
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 1: in southern California and goodness. Yeah, this is what people

914
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 1: keep saying, you know that, like, oh this went we

915
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 1: had so much rain, like it was just cool, it

916
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 1: was just winner, it was fine. It's okay, dude, compared

917
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: to next year compared it to next year, it'll swing

918
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 1: the other way and you'll be like, Okay, this is

919
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: what the Los Angeles Winter was supposed to. Yeah, that's

920
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: what people keep saying to this. To this Chili Peppers points.

921
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: So they're playing at the Staples Center basically always. So

922
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go at night with one of my friends

923
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 1: from work really um, and so this I think is

924
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 1: going to be an interesting thing because I do not

925
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: go see concerts all that often, but like we supposed

926
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: we have good seats, and the Chili Peppers are supposed

927
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 1: to be like a great, great show, and based on

928
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: what they did, you know, Game one, like, I think

929
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: that's gonna be pretty cool. I think there's gonna be

930
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,720
Speaker 1: a little bit more stage production element available to them tonight.

931
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 1: At the endazon the call Sam, what was that like

932
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 1: thirty minutes before kickoff? It was something like that, and

933
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 1: there everybody did a really really good job. Shout out

934
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: to my boss Chris Slept for putting that together and

935
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: making sure it actually went off without a hitch. The

936
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: great thing about that I always thought, and I think

937
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 1: this would have been the case anyways, is is everyone

938
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 1: was in their seat right like that was really well

939
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 1: timed out such that there was a good reason to

940
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,479
Speaker 1: get there early. The traffic would have been a disaster too.

941
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,240
Speaker 1: But you're in there, you're in your seat, you see kickoff,

942
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 1: you see the uniforms. For all the tough times that

943
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: we endured in the most recent season, that was a

944
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 1: highlight for show was a highlight. Okay, So let me

945
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:16,359
Speaker 1: know what the playlist is, Like I will, but I'm

946
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 1: putting it on the spot. What's the best concert you've

947
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: ever been to? Oh? Wow, you two came to campus,

948
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: came to Notre Dame shortly after nine to eleven and

949
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 1: played a kind of our small basketball arena, and that

950
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 1: was I think that's about as small avenue as you

951
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 1: two really ever plays. That was pretty special. I've seen

952
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 1: Guns and Roses a couple of times, and then they've

953
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: canceled the rest of their tour short thereafter, so I

954
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 1: feel like I got in under the wire there on

955
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 1: a couple of good Guns and Roses shows. Dave Matthews

956
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: when Dave and that band were in their prime was

957
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: about about a good two hour session as I could

958
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,919
Speaker 1: get so interesting them a couple of times. So I've

959
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 1: I've been to a couple of Beyonce concerts actually have

960
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 1: been to I think three, so I've seen Beyonce more

961
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 1: than any other artists because Beyonce is the Queen, right

962
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,240
Speaker 1: you gotta see Queen Bee. But the one that stands

963
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 1: out the most to me of her concerts is when

964
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 1: I saw her in New Jersey and Atlantic City was

965
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 1: like right after she had the first baby, and I

966
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 1: think it was like her first concert back, so that

967
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: was really awesome. But probably the best concert I've been

968
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:27,359
Speaker 1: to is any rd. Are you familiar with any Ard? Okay,

969
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 1: well it's Farrell Williams still like his like with the Neptunes.

970
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 1: They used to go in tourround so I was in

971
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 1: high school, I think, and they were playing at the

972
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 1: House of Blues in Cleveland and it was they had

973
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: two drum sets and they played, they played, they played

974
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 1: most of their newer stuff that at that time was

975
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: you know, not I don't know it's better than their

976
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 1: more recent stuff, but like then, it was really good,

977
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 1: So yeah, I guess that was the That was the

978
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:54,399
Speaker 1: best thing. They played. U Gosh Donna and I can't

979
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 1: remember the name of the song she Wants to Move

980
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 1: there and it was today two drum sets, and they

981
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:01,800
Speaker 1: were banging on these drum sets. It was one of

982
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: the most amazing. So if I Pandora, that would I

983
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 1: get a pretty good playlist out of that. Yeah, I

984
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 1: think so. Okay, it's my favorite album of all time.

985
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 1: Flyer dy Well, thanks for having me back. I mean,

986
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but to me, it's a

987
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 1: tough time a year. It's tough to talk about some

988
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 1: of these things because for instance, like Tremaine, like I know,

989
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 1: we're all speculating, it's hypothetical, and I don't want to

990
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: be the one saying, oh, if we get a first

991
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 1: round or second round pick for him, ship him out

992
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 1: right now. Like that's it's difficult for me to talk

993
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 1: about men and their families and their profession and in

994
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 1: this way. But it's this is where I think championships

995
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 1: are built, is this time of year. And so you know,

996
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: good luck to all the people who are going to

997
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 1: have to make these decisions and U and on the

998
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,399
Speaker 1: player's side, I hope it works out for them both

999
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,919
Speaker 1: financially and professionally as well. Absolutely, well, that's a great

1000
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: parting shot JB. So everybody, thank you so much for

1001
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 1: tuning into this edition of Between the Horns. Be sure

1002
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 1: to say tuned to the Rams dot com as we

1003
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: will have free agency coverage all throughout the week. Thank

1004
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: you to my producer Josh for JB. I'm Miles Simmons.

1005
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: Where viewed maybe in football. We'll see you next time.

1006
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Speaker 1: M