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Speaker 1: It's time to Catch a Cheater only on.

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Speaker 2: The Jubile Show. If you want to win the Jubil

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Speaker 2: Shows Trip to the Caribbean, you got to listen at

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Speaker 2: eight to ten. Paul is on the phone today for

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Speaker 2: to Catch a Cheater. He's been with his girlfriend, Leslie

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Speaker 2: for three years, but now he thinks something's going on.

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Speaker 2: So we're going to see if we can help him

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Speaker 2: out and try to catch her in a second if

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Speaker 2: she is. Hopefully she isn't. But Paul tell us what's

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Speaker 2: going on?

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Speaker 3: Man. Yeah, I've been with my girlfriend Leslie now for

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Speaker 3: three years and overall things have been great. It's been

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Speaker 3: nice three years. Leslie actually moved up here from a

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Speaker 3: small town, you know, one of those really small towns

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Speaker 3: out in the middle of nowhere. Scary to me, but yes, yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know, to be honest, it's the same for me.

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Speaker 3: It's a little odd going back because we visit often

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Speaker 3: to her family, and every time we go back there,

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Speaker 3: I just feel like it's going to another country or

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Speaker 3: another planet or something.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of nice. You really get to escape.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's not really a big deal to visit often.

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Speaker 3: I know, like I said, it's like another planet. Over there.

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Speaker 3: But you know, my relationship my family's a you know,

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Speaker 3: at best strain. So you know, I've never had a

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Speaker 3: problem going back with her as frequently as we do.

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Speaker 3: But unfortunately this year, I'm not able to go back

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Speaker 3: and visit with her on her mom's birthday. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm really swamped at work, and you know, it wasn't

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Speaker 3: really a huge deal. But that's kind of where in

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Speaker 3: regards to this trip and me not going with her

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Speaker 3: is kind of where suspicions started creeping in.

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Speaker 1: Okay, was she upset that you couldn't go with her?

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Speaker 3: Well, see that that's the thing. It actually didn't seem

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Speaker 3: And you know, recently, you know, I feel like she's

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Speaker 3: been kind of pushing me away. You know, I feel like,

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Speaker 3: And you know, one thing I've noticed, and and the

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Speaker 3: thing that I'm worried about is this guy Joel. Well,

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Speaker 3: Joel is her. It's it's her ex from you know,

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Speaker 3: like her kind of high school sweetheart, kind of guy

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Speaker 3: you know, still lives in that small town where she

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Speaker 3: came from. And I've noticed that her and Joel have

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Speaker 3: been texting a lot more, you know, recently.

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Speaker 1: They've always been texting, you said, a lot more so

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Speaker 4: Been a yeah, they you know, you know, to be honest,

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Speaker 4: I'm not one of those guys that's like have a

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Speaker 3: I met Joel, you know, when we've gone to to

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Speaker 3: You know, he seems like a decent person and and everything.

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Speaker 3: But honestly, it has always just kind of been or,

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Speaker 3: more frequent. Like I noticed that, you know, you know,

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Speaker 3: I told her that I wasn't going that I wasn't

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Speaker 3: I didn't really feel like she was particularly upset that

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Speaker 3: like I said, she got defensive, and she also said,

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Speaker 3: Rather and I don't recall any friend group or mutual friends.

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Speaker 2: So you think maybe it like she's planning something with

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Speaker 3: You're not there exactly. Yeah, so I thought maybe you

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Speaker 3: guys could call her from you know, just say you're

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Speaker 3: our credit card company and say she won a free

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Speaker 3: travel ticket and a free companion, and just ask her

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Speaker 3: who she would pick to be that companion.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, it's a good idea. All right, we'll play

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Speaker 2: a song come back and then call her and hopefully

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Speaker 2: she gives us your name and not somebody else's. But

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Speaker 2: we'll play a song, come back and get your to

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Speaker 2: catch a cheater next, it's.

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Speaker 3: Time to Catch a Cheater only.

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Speaker 2: On the Jubile Show. In the middle of to Catch

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Speaker 2: a Cheater, if you're just joining us, Paul is on

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Speaker 2: the phone and he thinks that his girlfriend of three

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Speaker 2: we're about to call her and see if we can

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Speaker 2: catch her. But first, Paul, why don't you refresh everybody's

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Speaker 2: memory on your situation.

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Speaker 3: We've been together three years. I'm worried she's getting back

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Speaker 3: with or in a relationship with her ex boyfriend from

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Speaker 3: high school, and I was hoping you guys could just

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Speaker 3: pretend to be the credit card company and say she

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Speaker 3: want a free flight and see who she picks. Okay,

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Speaker 3: and she's going back home to visit her mom, and

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Speaker 3: I'm not going, and I'm worried that she's been really

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Speaker 3: texting this guy and planning on seeing him when I'm

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Speaker 2: Okay, are you ready for us to call her?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: All right, man, here we go.

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Speaker 3: Hello.

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Speaker 2: Hi, this is Global calling for I was looking for

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Speaker 2: our card holder Leslie.

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Speaker 3: Is is?

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Speaker 5: She is everything?

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm actually calling you some good news. Congratulations for

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Speaker 2: being a card holder with us and racking up so

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Speaker 2: many points and miles in travel. You've won a voucher

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Speaker 2: for six hundred dollars in free travel for yourself and

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, wow, this is so cool. Thank you.

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Speaker 3: So what do I do?

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Speaker 2: Well, it's simple. Your voucher will go automatically into your

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Speaker 2: account online. So the only thing that I would need

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Speaker 2: would be the name of the companion that you would

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Speaker 2: take with you. Now, I can give you some time

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Speaker 2: to obviously think about that, but unfortunately they asked that

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Speaker 5: You know, Oh okay, that's fine.

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Speaker 2: Okay, great, Just the first and last name would be awesome.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, can you make it to Joel?

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Speaker 2: Yes, I can get that notated on there. Would like

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Speaker 2: you can also give them the good news with like

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Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe just say that things keep getting better and

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Speaker 5: after this trip we can go back and have the talk.

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Speaker 2: I'll just read it back to you. Okay. It says

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Speaker 2: your boyfriend of three years Paul is on the phone

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Speaker 2: why you got the companion ticket for Joel and are

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Speaker 2: sending Jill that message.

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Speaker 1: Wait?

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Speaker 2: What do I get that?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Paul?

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Speaker 3: Wait, Paul's Yeah, whats going.

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Speaker 1: On, Leslie?

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Speaker 2: This is the Jubile Show. It's a radio show, and

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Speaker 2: we do a segment where we catch people cheating, and

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Speaker 2: Paul thought you might be able to do something.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it seems I'm right. Oh my god. Wow.

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Speaker 5: Okay, well I was definitely not prepared to have this

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Speaker 3: Hi, Paul, uh, Hi, Yeah, you know what's going on.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's true. I've been talking to my ex Joel.

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Speaker 5: You know you know Joel.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well I know that part. I know you've been talking.

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Speaker 3: I've talked to you about how you've been talking but

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Speaker 5: Okay, So we've been talking, you know, about our past

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Speaker 5: wanting in our life is really the same thing, which

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Speaker 3: Are you serious? I honestly, I can't believe it. You

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Speaker 3: sit down with him and what shake his hands? Wish

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Speaker 3: you well, I mean I can't, you know, honestly, you

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Speaker 3: a whole setup to catch you. Like I confronted you

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Speaker 3: about texting him and you talking to him, and obviously

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Speaker 3: I knew something was up, and you could sense something

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Speaker 3: out like this? This is ridiculous? And also, you know,

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Speaker 3: thank you for doing this around your mom's birthday for real, honestly,

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Speaker 3: Like this is a like this is a devastating thing.

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Speaker 3: And you know I love your mom to death. Okay,

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Speaker 3: you know she likes me, or at least you've told

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Speaker 3: me she likes me, you know, And and you want

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Speaker 3: to put this around your mom's birthday and and and

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Speaker 3: more so, instead of this being a very serious conversation

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Speaker 3: about us breaking up or you moving up, you're like

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Speaker 3: capitalizing on the fact that I couldn't make it to

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Speaker 3: this trip. You're like seeing as like a blessing and

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Speaker 3: I could tell. I could tell you didn't want me there,

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Speaker 3: you know, so you know, you know I love you,

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Speaker 3: But like.

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Speaker 5: You, I hear what you're saying that I probably deserve

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Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, you deserve more than that, you know,

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Speaker 3: and you know you can text me, you could, you can,

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Speaker 3: you can reach out. Obviously you would get yourself when

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Speaker 3: I don't want to see you, I don't want to

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Speaker 3: see him. It's not going to be the sit down,

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Speaker 3: nice hug, shake hand thing. You know. Honestly, I really

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Speaker 3: hope you're happy because you're taking it off from me.

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Speaker 5: Okay, well we'll talk about it, and I again, I'm

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Speaker 5: sorry that it had to come off this way.

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Speaker 3: But nope, nothing to talk about it is done.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, well Paul, I'm sorry, man, so sorry.

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Speaker 3: You know, tell you know what, y'all don't need to apologize.

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Speaker 3: She's the only one that needs to apologize. Thank you,

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Speaker 3: Thank you. Like I said earlier, you know, I was

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Speaker 3: going to be embarrassed either way, but thank you for

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Speaker 3: saving me a trip to go over there and embarrass myself. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: I'm pissed off. This is ridiculous, but you know what,

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Speaker 3: at least It's better than me flying over there being

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Speaker 3: around her family to be the guy or the other man.

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Speaker 1: Don't be embarrassed, man, this sucks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Well, whenever this happens, we always tell somebody there is

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Speaker 2: someone out there for you. So don't give up, pope. Man.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not even thinking about that, right, I'm just

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Speaker 3: I'm just pissed.

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Speaker 2: This is.

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Speaker 3: This hurt this honestly, it hurts. This hurts, so you

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Speaker 3: will show

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Speaker 1: To catch a cheater.