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Speaker 1: Welcome into Real America's Voice News. This is Sunday The

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Speaker 1: Road Forward. The world's been glued in over the last

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Speaker 1: week as President Trump's been pushing for peace in the

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Speaker 1: war between Russia and Ukraine, and he's making progress, much

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Speaker 1: to the dismay of the radical left. Interestingly, though, his

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Speaker 1: popularity it's soaring up significantly now at fifty four percent

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Speaker 1: since he began the Peace Talks America. It's back to

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Speaker 1: school with over fifty five million enrolling in public and

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Speaker 1: private education, and there's a lot to talk about in

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Speaker 1: the midst of it. Gen Z is coming alive to

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Speaker 1: faith in Christ. This week, there was a stunning video

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Speaker 1: that went viral about liberty university students worshiping the Lord

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Speaker 1: at the university as they kicked off a new year,

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Speaker 1: and religious liberty issues continue to dominate the news cycle

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Speaker 1: and continues to be front and center for the Trump administration.

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Speaker 1: All this and more on this edition of Sunday The

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Speaker 1: Road Forward is always a word of hope and encouragement

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Speaker 1: for you and those you love. I'm doctor Tim Clinton.

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Speaker 1: I'll be your host our special guest joining us this week.

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Speaker 1: He's a renowned neurosurgeon, former US Secretary of Housing and

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Speaker 1: Urban Development, best selling author, vice Chair of the Religious

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Speaker 1: Liberty Commission. Doctor Ben Carson is back with us. He

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Speaker 1: is the president and CEO of First Liberty Institute. Kelly

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Speaker 1: Shockelfert's back with us. She is the founder of and

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Speaker 1: president of Celebrate Kids, Incorporated. Doctor Kathy Cook is with

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Speaker 1: us and he is an author, evangelist, and founder of

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Speaker 1: Student Leadership University, someone who speaks to more young people

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Speaker 1: in America than anyone I know. Doctor j Strack is

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Speaker 1: back with us. Thank you for watching. While President Trump

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Speaker 1: continues to press in and win on the world stage,

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Speaker 1: the world has been dialed in as he has worked

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Speaker 1: feverishly to open the door to peace between Russia and Ukraine.

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Speaker 1: We all need to be in prayer for these efforts.

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Speaker 1: Secretary Rubio said this week that he's the only leader

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Speaker 1: in the world that can talk with both Putin and

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Speaker 1: Zelensky and bring them together. And we should be proud

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Speaker 1: that we have a president that's made peace of priority.

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Speaker 1: This week, we also learned that Target CEO just step

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Speaker 1: down after years of plummeting sales. They say, go woke,

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Speaker 1: go broke. Faith, by the way, is back in America.

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Speaker 1: Christian recording artists are charting and gen Z is lighting

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Speaker 1: up with fire and faith toward God. In particular, young

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Speaker 1: men are doing so what an encouraging sign for a

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Speaker 1: generation this battled through significant mental health challenges and more.

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Speaker 1: Americans continue to be concerned, though and fearful about potential

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Speaker 1: acts of violence and terrorism on American soil, and rightfully

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Speaker 1: so President Trump as administration. They've been working feverishly over

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Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks to make DC see our

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Speaker 1: nation's capital safe again, calling them basically the National Guard

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Speaker 1: to commit and take over. If there's one place we

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Speaker 1: should feel safe, and I'd be in Washington, DC. According

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Speaker 1: to Attorney General Pam Bondi, they have now made five

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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty rests in DC alone, and they've taken

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Speaker 1: seventy six illegal firearms off the streets, thus saving lives. Hey,

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Speaker 1: in times like these, our hope, our strength, it comes

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Speaker 1: from the Lord. Here's a great burst to hold on

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Speaker 1: to this week. Isaiah fifty four to seventeen. It says

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Speaker 1: no weapon formed against you shall prosper, and every tongue

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Speaker 1: their righteousness is from me, says the Lord. Let's pray

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Speaker 1: and then we'll get started. God be with us. Thank

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Speaker 2: Doctor Carson, welcome back. Thank you for joining me.

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Speaker 3: Always good to be with you.

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Speaker 2: Doctor doctor Carson.

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Speaker 1: We got started this week you joined the National Faith

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Speaker 1: Advisor Board for a webinar on America goes back to School.

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Speaker 2: I really appreciated your comments. I want to start up with.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Carson, is our kids go back to school. A

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Speaker 1: lot of parents are filled with the excitement about another

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Speaker 1: you know, at the end of the day, those who

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Speaker 1: control our children, really they really control the future or

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Speaker 4: There is no question about it.

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Speaker 3: You know, the leftists recognize that if they really want

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Speaker 3: it's one of their doctrines, you know, if you can.

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Speaker 3: It was Lenin who said, giving your children to teach

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Speaker 3: never be uprooted. We're seeing the fruits of that philosophy

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Speaker 3: And that's what they're doing right now, is picking them

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Speaker 3: able to discern the truth from what you're saying, what

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Speaker 1: family is the bedrock of culture, and we've got to

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Speaker 1: protect the family. And it's out of the family that

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Speaker 1: little hearts and hands are fashioned, Doctor Carson. It would

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Speaker 3: That's what communists do. They control the kids.

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Speaker 3: Think about the Russian Ukrainian War and how the Russians

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Speaker 1: That the carson Through the years, I have loved stories

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Speaker 1: Here you are a world renowned neurosurgeon, you have such

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Speaker 3: She was the only one who thought I was smart.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Carson, I know that you and your wife, Candy,

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Speaker 1: But you have the American Cornerstone Institute. Why don't you

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Speaker 2: Kelly, welcome back. Thank you for joining me.

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Speaker 4: Great to be with you. Tim.

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Speaker 1: As we get started, you were on a National Faith

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, it's the reason we have religious freedom,

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Speaker 1: Kelly, your organization, First Liberty Institute has really led the

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Speaker 1: But Kelly, I've heard you say we have more religious

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Speaker 4: and he said, no, this is a violation of the Constitution.

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Speaker 4: Our children are not children of the state. The children

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Speaker 4: of this and they have every right and really just

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Speaker 4: freedom to opt out. So there's victory if people are

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Speaker 4: willing to stand. But it really matters. You've got to

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Speaker 4: have good judges on the court, and you've got to

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Speaker 4: have people willing to speak out and stand. And if

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Speaker 4: I mean, we have the truth, so God forbid if

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Speaker 4: we have the ability to control all of this in

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Speaker 4: It's a great privilege what we have in this country.

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Speaker 4: Before the Lord.

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Speaker 1: Kelly, if people want to learn more about you and

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Speaker 4: Go easiest thing is just go to spell it out

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Speaker 4: first liberty dot org. First liberty dot org, and I

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Speaker 4: and if they'll sign up, they'll get that email every Friday.

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Speaker 4: It's about we have about seven hundred and fifty thousand

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Speaker 4: a great way to keep up, to pray for these situations,

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Speaker 1: So it's first liberty dot org and be an Insider.

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Speaker 1: That's what you want to look for when you get

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Doctor Kathy Cook, thank you for joining me.

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Speaker 8: I'm still glad to be here. Thanks for the invitation.

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Speaker 2: Kathy.

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Speaker 1: As we get started, America's going back to school. You

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Speaker 1: have a real love for our kids. You've been involved

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Speaker 1: But the hearts and minds of our kids, that's what

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Speaker 1: this is all about, is they go back to school.

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Speaker 2: Kathy.

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Speaker 1: People I know are always concerned about safety, parental rights,

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Speaker 1: and we're going to talk about that education and doctrination.

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Speaker 1: But Kathy just talk about us, talk to us about

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Speaker 1: our children.

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Speaker 8: Oh my goodness, right, well, yeah, I want them to

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Speaker 8: love learning. I want them to engage in all things

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Speaker 8: that are educationally solid and sound. I want educators to

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Speaker 8: teach them about math, science, reading, and spelling. And I

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Speaker 8: want the kids to be encouraged and to believe that

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Speaker 8: their life has purpose and that they can make a

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Speaker 8: difference today. They don't have to grow up to become somebody.

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Speaker 8: They already are somebody. So do we treat them like that?

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Speaker 8: Do we value them today? Do we celebrate them like

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Speaker 8: Jesus did when he was on Earth and other people

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Speaker 8: dismissed children and is unimportant, but Jesus said, no, these

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Speaker 8: children matter. I want us to have that, you know,

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Speaker 8: mentality and that belief system toward our kids.

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Speaker 1: You're always having conversations with parents, Kathy. I know again

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Speaker 1: I mentioned the concerns people, you know, with the rash

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Speaker 1: of shootings through the how many what last few years

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Speaker 1: and more, It's just like that's got their attention. So

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Speaker 1: safety is a big issue. They're concerned about what they

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Speaker 1: experience in the classroom. We're going to talk about that.

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Speaker 1: They're concerned about other kids being really hard on each other,

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Speaker 1: like bullying and more. Kathy, what do you think are

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Speaker 1: some of the top couple of issues as kids go

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Speaker 1: back to school?

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Speaker 8: I think fear based parenting is ineffective and rampant in

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Speaker 8: our culture. So I want to say to our parents,

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Speaker 8: you know, are you confident with where you're sending your kids?

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Speaker 8: And if not, could I boldly say why are you

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Speaker 8: sending them there? Do you pray for those who are

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Speaker 8: there doing a good job? Do you thank you, you

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Speaker 8: have gratitude toward those who are doing an excellent job?

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Speaker 8: Do you send think you notes even to school board

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Speaker 8: members who are standing up for the things that are righteous?

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Speaker 8: I think we can do a better job. And all

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Speaker 8: of that, I think obviously teachers are overwhelmed. Teachers are

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Speaker 8: not trained in mental health team. In fact, I tell

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Speaker 8: teachers everywhere I go to get the AECC mental Health

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Speaker 8: Coaching program because they're so underprepared for what's going on

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Speaker 8: out there. And most of the teachers that are being

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Speaker 8: interviewed don't like the ideology that they're being forced to cover,

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Speaker 8: but yet they don't have a choice. Many of them

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Speaker 8: feel that way, and they really don't. So it's not

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Speaker 8: a healthy place. It's not a good place. The ideologies

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Speaker 8: in so many ways are bad and it makes me sad, right,

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Speaker 8: makes you sad too, I know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Kathy.

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Speaker 1: During the last administration, the Biden Harris administration, there was

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Speaker 1: such an emphasis on transgender ideology, and a lot of

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Speaker 1: the conversations around education shifted from educating our kids to

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Speaker 1: indoctrinating our kids. And we know, whoever wins the war

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Speaker 1: for our children controls the future. This transgender ideology piece, Kathy,

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Speaker 1: you guys have come up with a new book you,

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Speaker 1: along with our good friend Jeff Myers, called Raising Gender

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Speaker 1: Confident Kids. This week, Kathy, I had a parent reach

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Speaker 1: out to me and say their son is actually like traumatized.

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Speaker 1: He went to school his first day, public school system

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Speaker 1: that I know very very well, and the first thing

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Speaker 1: that the boy encounter was a drag queen, you know,

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Speaker 1: receiving the kids at the school. I'm like, it's like

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Speaker 1: this kid was like what in the world, you know,

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Speaker 1: and mom and dad were saying.

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Speaker 2: Hey, what are we going to do?

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Speaker 1: We can't even believe this stuff is happening, Kathy, how

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Speaker 1: did we get here?

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Speaker 8: Wow? Could I boldly start with an answer? I don't know.

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Speaker 8: I think you'll agree, tim sin right. The lack of

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Speaker 8: discipleship in our churches. Now, some pastors are doing a

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Speaker 8: really good job at that, please hear me, but we're not.

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Speaker 8: In some churches, we're not talking about tough stuff. We're

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Speaker 8: not talking about sexual sin. We're not talking about heterosexual

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Speaker 8: sexual sin, which makes all of the people on the

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Speaker 8: gay and lesbian side really angry because they feel targeted

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Speaker 8: because that seems to be the only thing that we

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Speaker 8: talk about, and it's wrong. We've got to be teaching

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Speaker 8: biblical truth. We've got to be discipling our parents and

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Speaker 8: our children to know what is true and why it

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Speaker 8: is best. You know, gender confidence starts with being confident

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Speaker 8: in God, that God is a good creator, and that

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Speaker 8: God uniquely wires us together with good gifts for the

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Speaker 8: future and for the present. We're not teaching that, So

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Speaker 8: I'm going to say it starts with it not understanding sin,

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Speaker 8: not understanding that God is a good God. And then

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Speaker 8: of course there's so many other things. You know, the

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Speaker 8: public school ideology, it's there sadly medical professionals who wanted

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Speaker 8: the money so they kept their mouths shut about how

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Speaker 8: dangerous things really were. Stereotypes is a huge thing. You know,

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Speaker 8: I'm tall. I'm six' one. As you know, Tim, I'm tall,

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Speaker 8: and I was the tallest kid in my class all

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Speaker 8: the way through grade nine. And you know, back in

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Speaker 8: the day, I did realize why am I the taller?

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Speaker 8: Aren't men supposed to be taller? Like who wrote that book?

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Speaker 8: Like that's not biblical? So I didn't panic that I'm taller.

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Speaker 8: I just lived my life and eventually, you know, men

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Speaker 8: I would be young today with a low voice, being

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Speaker 8: I supposed to be a guy? Am I a woman

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Speaker 8: trapped in the wrong But I'm a guy trapped in

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Speaker 8: the wrong body. It's such a lie. We've got to

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Speaker 8: stand up for truth, and now everybody's doing that. Stereotypes

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Speaker 8: are very damaging, Kathy.

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Speaker 1: A lot of parents get pushed back saying that they're

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Speaker 1: being insensitive or they're being hateful if they don't affirm

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Speaker 1: their children. And they we've heard this term before, weaponize

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Speaker 1: empathy in the midst of it, I guess. So that's

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Speaker 1: why when you step back and you think about parenting,

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Speaker 1: it's a responsibility and it's not for the weak of heart,

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Speaker 1: the faint of heart.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: This is about stepping up and sharing truth, being able

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Speaker 1: to engage in those kind of conversations. You guys really

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Speaker 1: did a great job inside of raising gender confident kids,

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Speaker 1: helping parents start those kind of conversations. How they can

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Speaker 1: quote press into areas that they feel uncomfortable with, and

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Speaker 1: you give them tools tips talk to us about that.

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Speaker 8: Thank you, Thank you for endorsing our book, Tim. We're

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Speaker 8: so grateful. We have two hundred discussion starters in the

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Speaker 8: book because we know that parents want to be the authority,

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Speaker 8: parents want to be the main influence, and so we

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Speaker 8: do share discussion starters. We do share how to answer questions.

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Speaker 8: You know, we can say things like help me understand,

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Speaker 8: and what makes you think that that's right? And what

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Speaker 8: if you're wrong? So good discussion starters. Ways to listen longer,

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Speaker 8: We suggest things like listening in the dark because children

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Speaker 8: don't like eye contact when they're going to scare us.

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Speaker 8: And we actually say in the book, Tim that you

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Speaker 8: don't have to know everything. You know, kids are oh

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Speaker 8: my goodness, they're researching the internet. Another problem, of course,

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Speaker 8: here is the media lie, the bias, and the media

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Speaker 8: the bias. On the internet, if you search transgenderism, it'll

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Speaker 8: take you pages and pages on the web before you

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Speaker 8: get to anything that would be a biblically true account

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Speaker 8: of transgenderism. So kids are researching. So kids come to

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Speaker 8: parents and grandparents they think they have all the answers.

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Speaker 8: Parents haven't done the research, so they're intimidated by that.

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Speaker 8: But it's okay. You don't have to just listen longer

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Speaker 8: and say how did you learn that? What if? If

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Speaker 8: you're not right? And then I would say to all

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Speaker 8: the parents as well, tim be prepared. The discussion is

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Speaker 8: bound to happen. Either your kids will get confused or

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Speaker 8: as you said earlier, they'll overhear something or they'll observe

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Speaker 8: something there at the store and they see a person

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Speaker 8: in address who also has a beard and they're trying

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Speaker 8: to figure it out. You know who is that? So

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Speaker 8: get ready for the conversation so that you can act

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Speaker 8: appropriately based on what you know is too and you

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Speaker 8: don't react emotionally.

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Speaker 1: The book again is raising gender confident kids. You tag

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Speaker 1: team with a good friend of ours Jeff Myers from

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Speaker 1: Summit Ministries, what an amazing voice. You guys have together

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Speaker 1: for such a time as if Kathy, people want to

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Speaker 1: learn more about you? Where they can go to get

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Speaker 1: a copy of the book? What should they do? Where

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Speaker 1: can they go?

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Speaker 8: Thank you? Tim. Celebrate Kids dot com is our website.

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Speaker 8: We would love to have people visit there and you

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Speaker 8: can see our podcasts and our blogs, and you can

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Speaker 8: follow us on Facebook and Instagram as well at Celebrate Kids, Inc.

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Speaker 2: Doctor Kathy Cook, what I'd like to have you? Thank

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Speaker 2: you for joining me.

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Speaker 1: Is doctor Jay Strackey's the president and founder of Student

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Speaker 1: Leadership University, the premier global leadership training program for students.

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Speaker 1: He's impacted hundreds of thousands of students around the world

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Speaker 1: Strack Center at Charleston Southern University. Doctors Drack, welcome back.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for joming.

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Speaker 7: Thank you, buddy. I'm always pumped to be with you,

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Speaker 7: and I'm amazed at the footprint that your ministry has

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Speaker 7: all over the country in Canada. So it's always an honor,

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Speaker 7: So thank you.

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Speaker 2: I love working with you.

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Speaker 4: Jay.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Jay, let's start out with President Trump. People are

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Speaker 1: dubbing him the peacemaker. Secretary of Rubio not long ago

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Speaker 1: gave a monster list of a lot of the foreign

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Speaker 1: policy wins he's had on the board. Now he's in

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Speaker 1: the middle of this Russia Ukraine thing, and Jay, just

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Speaker 7: I've never really seen anything quite like it. You know,

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Speaker 7: I was a big Ronald Reagan fan, you know all

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Speaker 7: he did, but that was one very significant thing. I've

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Speaker 7: never seen anybody get as many victories on so many

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Speaker 7: different fronts as President Trump. And many of those are

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Speaker 7: things that you know, quote unquote don't benefit the United States,

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Speaker 7: but it benefits the planet. And I love what the

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Speaker 7: all kind of nervous about he said, well, I'm trying

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Speaker 7: to get this deal with Ukraine and Russia worked out,

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Speaker 7: so I know for sure I'll get to see the

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Speaker 7: pearly gates, and everybody's staying. Well, you know, he should

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Speaker 7: know you don't earn you.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 7: I think he knows that he's got an IQ of

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Speaker 7: over one hundred and seventy one, so I think he's

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Speaker 7: pretty sharp. I know he's had some preachers around him,

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Speaker 7: Timothy as you would well know, and men, men and

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Speaker 7: women of God, so I think he's aware of the fact.

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Speaker 7: But I think it shows what's going on in his heart.

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Speaker 7: And when you hear Milania wrote that letter about all

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Speaker 7: the children that were being killed and she gave that

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Speaker 7: to President Putin, I think it just shows you what

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Speaker 7: really goes on in that home and that marriage and

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Speaker 7: in the White House. A real desire to save young

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Speaker 7: men young women that are being killed in these endless

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Speaker 7: wars all over the planet, but also for us to

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Speaker 7: be willing to do the hard things to make the

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Speaker 7: planet better. So I'm very proud of him. I've never

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Speaker 7: seen anything quite like it.

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Speaker 2: Jay, and the American people seem to be going with him.

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Speaker 1: His approval rating is soaring it's up up to fifty

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Speaker 1: four percent now right now, that's pretty stunning. Jay, I

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Speaker 1: want to talk to you. We're fighting time here. But

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Speaker 1: Gaza and the feeding of the people there, Jay, and

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Speaker 1: maybe some interference with the UN, we don't know, but

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Speaker 1: there's some discussions going on. But nevertheless, I know you

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Speaker 1: have a real heart for Israel, that entire region over there.

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Speaker 1: Any updates you can share with us your thoughts.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think twofold number one, what I hope everybody understands.

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Speaker 7: And again it's primarily through this administration, but there are

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Speaker 7: now some seven major Arab countries that are realizing that

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Speaker 7: this needs to end, and they realize that Hamas is

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Speaker 7: a cancer. And we're talking about the leading major Arab nations,

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Speaker 7: and we have relationships with them now, we have friendship

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Speaker 7: with them, we have the Abrahamic accord with them. So

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Speaker 7: number one, when you look at what Gaza is going

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Speaker 7: through and you realize there's a cancer there and that

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Speaker 7: is Hamas. We've already seen what when you do surgery

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Speaker 7: on Hesbelah, and we've already seen what can happen when

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Speaker 7: you do surgery on the Huties. But now we still

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Speaker 7: have Hamas and this is cancer and they do not care.

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Speaker 7: And you know when you hear about the kids that

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Speaker 7: are starving and and pictures of people being you know,

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Speaker 7: going through lack of food and nutrition, it's not Israel

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Speaker 7: and it's certainly not the United States that's not moving

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Speaker 7: heaven and earth to rid that region of the cancer.

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Speaker 7: And we know that's what Hamas is. So we have

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Speaker 7: a good friend, doctor Johnny Moore. We have others, but

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Speaker 7: this is serious where they're still uh, you know, making

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Speaker 7: hostages dig their own graves. Tim You know, recently we

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Speaker 7: had probably a meeting there at the Friends of Zion

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Speaker 7: Museum with the kacabeing c and and we heard from

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Speaker 7: the hostage families. We got to keep in mind that

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Speaker 7: there's a there's about five hundred Hamas spighters that are

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Speaker 7: keep that entire region going through the turmoil, and a

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Speaker 7: lot of innocence are suffering. So I think we're gonna

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Speaker 7: need to do surgery on Hamas. And these other countries

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Speaker 7: are trying to get them to accept a peace agreement

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Speaker 7: and get them relocated. But this is critical and it's

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Speaker 7: of the devil.

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Speaker 2: Jay.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for your steadfast commitment to the Nation of Israel.

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Speaker 1: We always appreciate you your voice as always. Much love to

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Speaker 1: you and Diane and your good family. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: joining me.

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Speaker 6: For more encouragement and to stay connected. Follow doctor Tim

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Speaker 6: Clinton on Facebook, Instagram and X. We love being a

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Speaker 6: part of your.

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Speaker 1: Life and closing. These are again unprecedented times. They're challenging times,

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Speaker 1: but I know this God's in control. I believe he's

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Speaker 1: at work. Hope you're pressing close to him in his heart.

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Speaker 1: Know that God loves you and that he wants to

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Speaker 1: be in your life or hope our strength comes from

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Speaker 1: the Lord. Here again is an encouraging verse from the

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Speaker 1: Bible to hold on to this week, Isaiah fifty four seventeen.

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Speaker 1: I shared it earlier. No weapon formed against you shall prosper.

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Speaker 1: Every tongue that rises against you in judgment you shall condemn.

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Speaker 1: This is the heritage of the servants of the Lord,

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Speaker 1: and their righteousness is from me, says the Lord.

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Speaker 2: I like that.

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Speaker 1: Hope you know that you can look to God for

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Speaker 1: wisdom and direction in your everyday life.

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Speaker 2: You can pray to them.

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Speaker 1: I may also say that I've learned as a professional counselor,

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Speaker 1: though it's normal to have concern, maybe some fear or worry,

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Speaker 1: especially when you feel like life's not the way it's

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Speaker 1: supposed to be. But also have learned that if you

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Speaker 1: aren't careful, it can begin to consume you, control you.

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Speaker 1: It's easy to lose perspective. For some, they feel like

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Speaker 1: they've lost hope. Some might even feel like life would

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Speaker 1: be better off without them. I say this every week.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to live like that. Simply taking a

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Speaker 1: step reaching out for help. It's often the gateway to

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Speaker 1: a new day or a new you. And if you

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Speaker 1: are someone you love is struggling, I hope you'll do

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Speaker 1: that reach out for help. There are wonderful counselors. There

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Speaker 1: are pastors who care and help you find the hope

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Speaker 1: and the answers you're looking for. There also a lot

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Speaker 1: of wonderful resources now love to connect you with some

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Speaker 1: of those. You can learn more up at our website

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Speaker 1: at AACC dot net. That's AACC dot net, or check

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Speaker 1: out our new website and get connected with a mental

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Speaker 1: dot com. If you don't have a personal relationship with

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Speaker 1: God in Christ, you know what you can. You can

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Speaker 1: do that right now. By asking him to command your life,

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Speaker 1: ask him to forgive you of your sin and to

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Speaker 1: be your lord and savior. Simply praying a prayer from

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Speaker 1: your heart to God is the way to get that done.

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Speaker 1: Pray something like this, Lord Jesus.

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Speaker 2: You can pray with me.

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Speaker 1: Lord Jesus, I need you. I know I'm a sinner.

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Speaker 1: I believe you died for my sin. I want to

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Speaker 1: turn from my sin and invite you come into my heart,

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Speaker 1: into my life. I want to trust you. I want

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Speaker 1: to follow you God for the rest of my life.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for loving me, giving your life for me.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for the gift of grace and forgiveness, the

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Speaker 1: gift of eternal life, the gift of again of heaven.

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Speaker 1: I pray all this in Jesus' name.

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Speaker 2: Amen.

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Speaker 1: You know what the Bible says in Romans ten nine.

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Speaker 1: The Bible says, if you confess with your mouth that

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Speaker 1: God raised him from the dead, the Bible says, you

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Speaker 1: will be saved. The best thing you can do right

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Speaker 1: now is thank Him for that, serve him for the

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Speaker 1: rest of your life.

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