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Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio podcast. Girlfriend,

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Speaker 1: have you been keeping up with Selling Sunset this season? Okay?

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Speaker 1: I have not, like I should.

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Speaker 2: I just I've The problem is I'm getting too many spoilers,

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Speaker 2: so I already know that there's a lot of drama

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Speaker 2: and a lot of tension this season.

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Speaker 1: There really is. And some of my favorites are not

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Speaker 1: not my favorites anymore, and I hate to know. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to say, oh, talk to them. It's so

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Speaker 1: hard though, because you know.

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Speaker 2: The worlds of reality, I know, and they're they're going

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Speaker 2: to edit to keep their cast and their characters in character,

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Speaker 2: and so that's tricky. But you know who did just

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Speaker 2: join the show, and we have one of them, the

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Speaker 2: original cast member, hopefully coming on soon and I'm really

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Speaker 2: excited to talk to her.

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Speaker 1: We have a new guest today, rookie of the Year

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Speaker 1: who's on the show. Just stunning and she is in

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Speaker 1: the new realtor in town. She's also related to Sophia.

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Speaker 1: I can't say, I can't say. Yes. Her name is

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Speaker 1: Sandra and she's here, so let's get her on because

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Speaker 1: I would love to be a fly on the wall

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Speaker 1: during I want her spicy take on this guy, so

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Speaker 1: let's get her on. Hi Hei, You're gorgeous. We knew

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Speaker 1: it would be that way.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much guys for having.

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Speaker 1: Me, I mean, thanks for coming on girl.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, happy to be here.

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Speaker 1: So that's a lot of questions. You're a hero, I know,

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Speaker 1: look at you.

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Speaker 2: You're like, there's nothing I can't handle after being on

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Speaker 2: Selling Sunset.

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Speaker 1: At first question though, who how did you get the

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Speaker 1: call to be on the show.

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Speaker 3: So it's funny I went to when I got the

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Speaker 3: call to be on the show, So I went to

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Speaker 3: NI because they wanted me because I was doing like

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Speaker 3: TV hosting. And then I They're like, you need to

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Speaker 3: meet with Done and Done, the production company of Selling Sunset.

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Speaker 3: And I've always had like this thing with my close friends.

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Speaker 3: They've been wanting me to realistic the longest time. They

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Speaker 3: just think it's great because I have you know, I

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Speaker 3: do counseling and I have therapy counseling like sobriety coaching,

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Speaker 3: but also like sort of like not therapy as in

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Speaker 3: PhD because you know, we can't say that. Then they'll

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Speaker 3: be like, oh, but like I have certificate. I'm a

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Speaker 3: recovery specialist, and I mean in the entertainment world, so

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Speaker 3: it would have been like, you know, it's they're like,

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Speaker 3: you'd be amazing. So I'm like, I was going to

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Speaker 3: a really hurtful breakup. I was like completely heartbroken, and

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Speaker 3: when I saw the opportunity of a challenge to just

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Speaker 3: you know, finally jump into real estate in a really

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Speaker 3: odd way via selling Sunset. By the way, guys, I

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Speaker 3: never even watched a reality TV show before I glamped

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Speaker 3: at the Kardashians. But that's it, Like I never even

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Speaker 3: watched the show or anything.

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Speaker 1: So I was like, so you knew nobody.

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Speaker 3: Then, no, nobody, nobody.

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Speaker 1: That's also probably like the best way to go in.

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Speaker 3: Well exactly That's why I did it because I know

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Speaker 3: that reality TV part of the reason why I really

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Speaker 3: never watched it is all about like inner drama and

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Speaker 3: like stuff like that. So I was just like, if

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Speaker 3: I watched this, I'm gonna go in with these preconceived

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Speaker 3: ideas of these people. So so but mostly why I

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Speaker 3: said yes was the heartbreak and I needed like it

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Speaker 3: was just like the perfect opportunity to like transmute the

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Speaker 3: pain into something completely different. I I started studying, I

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Speaker 3: met with Jay, and you know he had a Jason.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure I loved you.

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Speaker 3: You know what he did, and he was really not

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Speaker 3: a douche at all, and I thought I could be

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Speaker 3: a douche. I love you, zero dos it? Zero douche?

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Speaker 1: Well, listen, he loves a pretty girl, you know, right.

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Speaker 3: But you know, I think he saw me as more

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Speaker 3: than that because and.

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Speaker 1: I love Jason. There's no shade against him. Jason and

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Speaker 1: I are friends. He's just an opportunist. Yeah, No, I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't say that. He just he sees beautiful women and

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Speaker 1: he's you know, listen, I love beautiful, brilliant women. That's

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Speaker 1: my toxic trait, you know, no shade, you know, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think what he saw in me was that I

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Speaker 3: was completely different. Yeah. Different. So here's what happens. And

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Speaker 3: it's kind of smart from for the producers and for Jason.

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Speaker 3: This show I know now, but this show, it was

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Speaker 3: already a big dick competition happening right with all these women,

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Speaker 3: right Andra?

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Speaker 1: Can I can you come hang out with us at

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Speaker 1: any point in your life?

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Speaker 3: You are up our alley, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: So yes, I feel very comfortable talking to you guys

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Speaker 3: you get it, like, yes, I can be fully myself here.

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Speaker 3: So the big dick competition, nobody. They're not gonna put

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Speaker 3: another Chrishchelle, another Brie, another May into an already chaotic

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Speaker 3: like situation so perfect the diffuseor AKA me. She's into counseling.

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Speaker 3: She's so lovely, she's smart, she's funny, she tells it

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Speaker 3: like it is. Let's just insert her into a freaking

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Speaker 3: cave of lions and wolves. And I'm an idiot, not

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Speaker 3: not an idiot, but I was like, yeah, this is amazing.

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Speaker 3: I can, like, you know, get to know them and

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Speaker 3: see what's going on. Now. In the edit they edit it,

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Speaker 3: they remove all the boring psychological like good person scenes

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Speaker 3: and they just put bits and pieces to whatever the creators,

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Speaker 3: the producers want the story to sell.

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Speaker 1: They want their storyline.

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Speaker 3: Of course I know that now, you know. And but

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Speaker 3: the thing is, like people think it's a documentary, it's not.

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Speaker 3: It's a reality TV show. So a lot of my

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Speaker 3: scenes where I'm doing like the mediation, they didn't make

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Speaker 3: the cut because they won drama. They want more of

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Speaker 3: like this moment. So long story short, it was a

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Speaker 3: fun experience. Everybody was so well received. By most, by

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Speaker 3: ninety nine percent of them, ninety five percent of them.

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Speaker 3: And I learned quick and I think, you know, I

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Speaker 3: think that these people are not going to hire a

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Speaker 3: person who has zero like I had. I had enough

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Speaker 3: knowledge in real estate, and I got my license. I

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Speaker 3: was when we started filming the show. I started getting

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Speaker 3: my license. You know, it takes some it's a process

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Speaker 3: of like five weeks and then boom, I got it

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Speaker 3: right after. So it's I think that that's what they

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Speaker 3: were thinking with putting me in. It's like they needed

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Speaker 3: to change the the the loop of the drama of

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Speaker 3: the like Nicole, Chrischelle and this and that.

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Speaker 2: Are you close with any of these girls outside of Yeah, Hey,

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Speaker 2: which ones are you close with?

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Speaker 1: I start with that.

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Speaker 3: With Bree, Mary Alana. I really like Emma. I'm not close,

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Speaker 3: but I'm I'm I'm getting to know her more lately.

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Speaker 1: Amanza Ah Amansa. We love her. She's she's just solid,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but Mary's awesome, Like she was the best and

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Speaker 3: she's like she had to believe in me and she

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Speaker 3: told Jason, look, she's she would be an amazing addition

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Speaker 1: Well, so when you're getting briefed with all the drama

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Speaker 1: from the ladies from the show, where where do you then.

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Speaker 3: Don't get brief Mama, you don't.

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Speaker 1: Get no I know, I know. On the show they

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Speaker 1: were kind of like each girl is kind of coming

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Speaker 1: to you, telling you, telling you things.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but that's that. By the way, they edited

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Speaker 3: I went like like that, but he wasn't in order

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Speaker 3: at all, and producers are like, okay. So the way

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Speaker 3: it's very like a it's it's almost like a puppet show.

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Speaker 3: Reality shows. It's like you're like they try to pup

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Speaker 3: So when I was asking these questions, I was literally

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Speaker 3: asking because I wanted to make my for my own opinions.

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Speaker 3: In the same moments, I asked about real estate as well.

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Speaker 3: That didn't make the cut. They just wanted to know

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Speaker 3: yeah me with who.

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Speaker 1: Well, Well, when you're hearing that though from those different

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Speaker 1: sides on different I guess days in hour occasions, was

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Speaker 1: there one of the storylines that in your gut you

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Speaker 1: just went, I don't really, I don't really know if

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Speaker 3: What they didn't see right with me was the feud

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Speaker 3: between Chelsea and Brie because of Breeze's personal life choices.

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Speaker 3: I thought that was absurd, Like.

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Speaker 1: What I never liked how that was a handle.

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Speaker 3: Like why are you judging somebody's like romantic like life

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Speaker 3: that's how it all began, right, because she was very judgmental,

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Speaker 3: and so I thought that was in.

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Speaker 1: Great hasn't she said sorry though, I mean many times

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Speaker 3: Yeah she has. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So that's where it's like, all right, can we let that?

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Speaker 1: No anything like hatchet lie or whatever.

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Speaker 1: The hatchet.

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Speaker 3: Yeah that's buried. But at the same time, when I

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Speaker 1: What's your opinion on Nicole?

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Speaker 3: See I never shot with her, but if you want

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Speaker 3: to know my opinion right now, yeah, I think she

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Speaker 3: probably has two She could use more discernment into when

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Speaker 1: Don't we all?

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm going to write on my diary and just

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Speaker 3: And Mary was a dear friend of hers. I saw

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Speaker 3: on TikTok she was saying something about Mary and I

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Speaker 3: was like, you don't do that to your top dog.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's that's tough.

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Speaker 3: That bonds me. Man, I'm like what she said, why

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Speaker 3: are you doing that?

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Speaker 1: Like, well, I feel like it's also for you to

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Speaker 1: It's got to be hard because whenever there's a new

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Speaker 1: castmate that comes in, new realtor in town, the ogs

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Speaker 1: aren't as kind sometimes to the new ones.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, he was very kind to me, Nicole.

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Speaker 1: She was kind to you after.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh she's super nice. And all of them. The

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Speaker 3: only one that really wasn't nice to me was Chrischelle.

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Speaker 3: Why do you think that, I have no clue. I

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Speaker 3: think it's because I means she gave many reasons and

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Speaker 3: then backtracked on a lot of them as well. But

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Speaker 3: I think that mostly it's because that's her character. She's

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Speaker 3: been playing that role. If you notice. This is what

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Speaker 3: I'm like, she's the star of the show, like she

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Speaker 2: Do you I've this is one of the things that

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Speaker 2: But then I also know like this has become like

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm sure that a lot of people turn

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say, you have this deep sense,

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Speaker 3: But I've been through a lot of man terrible I know,

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Speaker 1: Who's apparently keen cars, which didn't make sense to me.

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Speaker 3: Crazy, guys, And they edited that seemed so much because

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Speaker 3: The worst thing is that in the moment she shows

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Speaker 3: that person like, I don't know who the hell? Please

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Speaker 2: Want you to move in with me. Continue. So the

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Speaker 3: With this TV show. I'm like what, I don't know

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Speaker 3: like like who does that? But she got a lot

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Speaker 1: So then where kind of have you? I know you

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Speaker 3: Oh no, But here's what happens. I was looking at interim,

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Speaker 3: That's not even a reason to be like, do you

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Speaker 1: It's almost like what Nicole did with the affair to Emma,

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Speaker 3: So she knows, she's good at that, she knows how

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean. It's like if I Jenna

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Speaker 2: Not right.

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Speaker 1: I did exactly, Yeah, gaslighting you. What did Sophia say

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Speaker 1: I'm doing the show, and did she say anything?

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Speaker 3: Or you just didn't do I didn't tell her anything about.

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Speaker 3: Or I don't know because I didn't want any chefs

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Speaker 1: The moment you want to make your decision.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but her son and I are tight, and apparently

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Speaker 3: I mean, my core guys, I have a really like

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Speaker 3: I don't selling Sunset and like this girl did this,

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Speaker 3: I'm not there for that. Well.

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Speaker 1: I think that's why I like Amanza too is because

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Speaker 2: selling Sunset?

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Speaker 1: Like if if?

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Speaker 3: If?

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Speaker 1: Soandra gets to pick what does she do next? In

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Speaker 3: I'm ready for a husband, guys.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I do not think that'll be a problem.

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Speaker 3: You're ready thirty seven?

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Speaker 1: Oh you're not with thirty seven?

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Speaker 3: And I want to have a kid, yes, yes, And

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Speaker 1: Are you sober because you did mention that?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 1: How many years?

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Speaker 3: I haven't had a drink in eight years? And from

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Speaker 1: A girl? Who's your tizing?

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Speaker 3: Do you have a to? Should?

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Speaker 2: We DM right now on air? We love to siding

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Speaker 3: Want someone who's not like shallow and superficial who doesn't

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Speaker 3: I don't want a spiritual like you know what I'm

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Speaker 2: And like do you struggle finding that kind of person

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Right now, half I haven't. I'm very picky. But

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Speaker 3: My last one was an actor and he was great,

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Speaker 3: but like it's a crazy It's like that lifestyle.

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Speaker 2: Is just yeah, so maybe like a businessman. I know,

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Speaker 2: I'm really thinking, like I think you honestly just need

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Speaker 2: to come visit.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna convise it. I don't know why this wasn't

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Speaker 3: in person. I should be in the middle.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you should and let us hold you. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think you could.

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Speaker 2: You would find your type here maybe more we have

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Speaker 2: less maserati driving. We still have some egos to sort through.

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Speaker 2: But I think you could your discernments pretty quick. You

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Speaker 2: would just sort of right through it.

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Speaker 1: What is the biggest trauma piece that you've had to

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Speaker 1: work through? I know big, not to like end it

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Speaker 1: on this, but I'm.

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Speaker 3: Just where you're about to get a dark sister. That

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Speaker 3: was a tough one. You want me to say the truth.

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Speaker 1: Oh, we've we've said the truth many times on this couch,

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Speaker 1: so come join us.

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Speaker 3: No, I mean the truth, not the truth. It's all

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Speaker 3: the truth. Everything I say is the truth. As you

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Speaker 3: get I'm sure you know. You guys are brilliant people,

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Speaker 3: readers and you know people. That's why I'm like, when

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Speaker 3: I was told i'd be doing this podcast, I'm like,

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Speaker 3: f yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yes, girl.

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Speaker 3: Those two right up my alley.

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Speaker 1: Those are ogs we are and we've watched some trauma

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Speaker 1: so well.

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Speaker 3: I think when my brother got killed when I was

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Speaker 3: nine and uh my family had to leave me, but

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Speaker 3: also in my adult life, ah, rape it was really

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Speaker 3: bad and like the way how it happened as well.

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Speaker 3: So I think those stood because it was by someone

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Speaker 3: that I had wasn't a relationship faith during a very

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Speaker 3: vulnerable moment, but it's I've been through a lot.

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Speaker 2: That's why I think that's probably one of the key

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Speaker 2: things that Jan and I both enjoyed about you. And

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Speaker 2: truth be told, I'm not a huge selling Sunset fan

477
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Speaker 2: because it feels a little empty to me sometimes, so

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Speaker 2: I struggle and the editing. I get in my head

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Speaker 2: about what the editing is and what's the real you know,

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Speaker 2: for entertainment. Chaos for entertainment is hard for me, just

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Speaker 2: on my little nervous system. But there's something really special

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Speaker 2: about who you are and the way you enter the scene.

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Speaker 2: But then I wondered, on the real reel of it,

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Speaker 2: your window of tolerance has to be a much shorter.

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Speaker 1: For these.

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Speaker 2: Chaotic, crazy storylines and women coming at you with that,

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Speaker 2: he said, she said, and you're like, listen, I've lived

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Speaker 2: like absolute real life dark life.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Really, yeah, one of the things that has helped you

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Speaker 1: not Because I was just on a walk with my

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Speaker 1: neighbor and we're talking about breathwork and how the body remembers,

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Speaker 1: and you know. I was telling her I've done EMDR

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Speaker 1: and she's like, all that stuff is great. She's like,

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Speaker 1: but your body, She's like, you still got to do

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Speaker 1: that breath work. She's like, you're still storing that that

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Speaker 1: trauma and that that is why you're having that visceral

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Speaker 1: reaction to to this one thing, because she's like, even

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Speaker 1: though it's not the same thing, it's still a reaction

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Speaker 1: because your body remembers that feeling.

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Speaker 3: So wow.

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Speaker 1: It's it's like, what is there certain things that have

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Speaker 1: helped you to because it's again it's it's a part

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Speaker 1: of you and your past and your you know, your

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Speaker 1: trauma store. So what has kind of helped you kind

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Speaker 1: of get through because you still it still can come up,

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Speaker 1: but you don't get over it. So it's been helping

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Speaker 1: you walk through.

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Speaker 3: That's an awesome question. And I love that you said

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Speaker 3: the window of tolerance. I had a therapist, Kathleen, that

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Speaker 3: would always talk about like the window of tolerance and

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Speaker 3: dorsal and bagel and like I've done so many types

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Speaker 3: of different like therapists. Uh, what really helped me here

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Speaker 3: is Kabbalah And I got it got into it by

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Speaker 3: watching I'm sure you guys know him. This is everywhere now,

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Speaker 3: David GM's He's an amazing spiritual teacher. I d nd

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Speaker 3: him and he actually met with me for for a

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Speaker 3: coffee and like gave me like the instructions. So I

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Speaker 3: got really into it for a year. And I'm reading

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Speaker 3: this book by this healer called Charlie Goldsmith called Human Medicine.

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Speaker 3: Highly recommend him because he's talking about what she's talking

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Speaker 3: what you were talking about about, like how he sees

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Speaker 3: as this reactive behaviors of fragmentations like that come from

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Speaker 3: past trauma. That we never are mad at what's happening now,

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Speaker 3: but it's a wood coming, it's a wound coming back

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Speaker 3: from our past. So yeah, Human Medicine. That book.

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Speaker 1: Also, well, I am just so proud of you and

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Speaker 1: you know how you show up and I am a

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Speaker 1: huge fan of so I just you, thank you, rooting

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Speaker 1: for you, and.

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Speaker 2: You have to get to us at the point anytime

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Speaker 2: you're in Nashville, let us know, slide in. I willkay

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Speaker 2: having me okay, thanks love having lovely dad by oh

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Speaker 2: love her. I mean just I love brilliant people can just.

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Speaker 1: Who've been through stuff, the resiliency, you know, like She's

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Speaker 1: so resilient and that's why probably a lot of those

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Speaker 1: things just don't face her as much. You know, perfect fit. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm excited for the following season. Then for her, I

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Speaker 1: know we need more of her, Yes,