1 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,159 Speaker 1: Hey guys, and welcome back to normally the show with 2 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: normalist takes for when the news gets weird. 3 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 2: I'm Mary Katholic, I'm Carol Marcowitz. How are you, Mary Catherine? 4 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,440 Speaker 1: I am good. The kids are home. We have a 5 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: snow day. But several of the p have reached that 6 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: wonderful age where you can just send them to play 7 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 1: in the snow for several hours. 8 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 2: It's wonderful, it really is. Yeah, self sufficient kids, It's 9 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 2: really what it's all about. That age where you no 10 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 2: longer have to worry about them, Like I call it 11 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 2: the eating pennies phase, where you don't have to worry 12 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 2: about them finding a penny and eating it. Once that's over, 13 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 2: things get really good. 14 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: Although I will say classic tween move. One of them 15 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: went out in a sweatshirt and crocs and I'm like, girl, 16 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: there are six inches of snow on the ground. 17 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 2: Listen. So at that point, you know it's their responsibility, right, 18 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 2: what are you gonna do? So well, as we're recording, 19 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 2: Tulsi has just been confirmed and RFK confirmation hearing is 20 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 2: beginning right now. It looks like he's a goal. Though 21 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 2: I have to say I am somewhat surprised. I thought 22 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 2: those two were going to be quite a struggle and 23 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 2: they really haven't been. 24 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting sort of the feel in the city 25 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: and on the hill changed very drastically on Tulsi Gabbard 26 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: very quickly. I think probably Vance's behind the scenes work 27 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: helped with that, as did I think we mentioned that 28 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: Kirsten Cinema got called in to do a couple calls 29 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: on that front. She of course like sort of weird 30 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 1: moderate figure who has the kind of person who's found 31 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: a place in the Trump coalition frankly, and is represented 32 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: by a Tulsi Gabbard. It's interesting that Cash Patel's sort 33 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: of been quiet since his hearing and his confirmation hearing. 34 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: His vote I believe out of the Committee is scheduled 35 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: for later this week. But as these ups and downs happen, 36 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,919 Speaker 1: it is interesting that Cash Purtel seemed like the most 37 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 1: likely of this trio. Yeah, and now we haven't heard 38 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: anything about Cash Pattel for several days, even a week. 39 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 2: There's really no rhyme or reason to any of this. 40 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on. I like again putting 41 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 2: Pete Hegseth back in the equation if you gave me 42 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 2: those four people, I still would have said Telsea and 43 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 2: RFK are going to be the hardest climb. I wouldn't 44 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 2: have thought that Pete Hegseth of those four would be 45 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 2: the most difficult. I don't know how that really happened, 46 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 2: but yeah, he's to me the least controversial of the four. 47 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 2: I thought he'd be smooth staling, and he was right 48 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 2: up until you know the end and nail Bier so 49 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:48,399 Speaker 2: very curious that I don't know what people are thinking anymore. 50 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 2: It's everything has shifted. The Trump you know, campaign has 51 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 2: really been different. It brought in a lot of different people, 52 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 2: and I think that the Senators are largely responding to that. 53 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: Can we note that heg Seth in his first overseas trip, 54 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 1: went to Stuttgart, Germany and worked out with the Green 55 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: Berets there. Ye, many a meme was born. 56 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 2: Can you imagine Lloyd Austin doing that? 57 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: I could not. I just this is a kind of 58 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:22,239 Speaker 1: thing that people who haven't served, or who haven't been 59 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: a like maybe a sports context like that, the physical 60 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: sort of team building context might turn their noses up 61 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: at This will matter to people, right, It matters that 62 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: he's joining them. It will matter to people who are 63 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: looking at joining He's one of the that it feels 64 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: like this guy is not asking them to do things 65 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: that he has not done or is willing to do 66 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: right now, and that he's sort of standing shoulder to 67 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: shoulder with them. I think I think that matters, and 68 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: that the visuals are. 69 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 2: Great, fantastic. Yeah again Lloyd Austin doing a chin up. 70 00:03:56,400 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 2: I just can't picture it. And you know, I saw 71 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 2: I just saw a headline on this, But already numbers 72 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 2: are up. Enrollment numbers for the military are up under 73 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 2: Pete Hegseth and that's impressive already. 74 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: I think that's good news for all of us. I 75 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: saw a new form. I think it was just an 76 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 1: online ad, but an army recruiting ad. There was just 77 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: a big guy lifting weights with like cool music behind him, 78 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 1: and then he says stronger people are harder to kill. 79 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:25,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen that. 80 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's like that's the message the Biden administration 81 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: had gotten involved in this, like what is your calling, right? 82 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: How do you truly know yourself? Serving in the military, 83 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: And it's like sometimes you just need some like hard 84 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: rock and dudes shot. 85 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, don't join the military to go find yourself. I 86 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 2: don't think that's what that's all about. 87 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: It indeed could happen a long way. You're gonna become 88 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 1: a better person while you do this. But anyway, so 89 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: that's going on. I did want to mention that our 90 00:04:56,080 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: favorite cabinet pick m Chavez de Ramier. Yeah, she is 91 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:07,679 Speaker 1: now postponed because of the snow until February nineteenth, although 92 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: as all things on the Hill, it could be that 93 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: she's postponed for another reason because maybe we aren't there. 94 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: We were not sure. It's all criminology at this point. 95 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: But this is the Labor Secretary nominee who neither of 96 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: us is a fan. 97 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 2: I was going to clarify when MK says our favorite, 98 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 2: she means our least favorite. 99 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 1: I'm joking. I did want to note our friend Noah 100 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: Rothman over at National Review points out that among those 101 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: who endorsed her in twenty four are the American Federation 102 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: of Government Employees, who will talk about later in the show, 103 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 1: Eric actively suing the Trump administration over the things that's 104 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:50,359 Speaker 1: trying to do. He United Food and Commercial Workers, the 105 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: International Union Painters and Allied Trades, International Brotherhood of Electric 106 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 1: Workers and the Association of Flight Attendants, all of which 107 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 1: have engaged in activism specifically against the Trump administration and 108 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: its desires and its policies. But she is the Labor 109 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: Secretary nominee, and what looks like just like a nod 110 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: to the Teamsters guy for not endorsing he didn't endorse 111 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:16,679 Speaker 1: Trump enough, didn't endorse Biden. 112 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't like it. I hope the Republicans 113 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 2: vote her down. I don't know though, because now with 114 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 2: the way things have gone, I kind of think that 115 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 2: they're and again, it's not wrong that they want to 116 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 2: pass their own party's nominees. We talked about it last episode. 117 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 2: It makes a lot of sense that they would want 118 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 2: to coordinate with the Trump administration and they would want 119 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 2: to do things to make it easier for the Trump 120 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 2: administration to get. 121 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: Their proposals through. 122 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 2: It makes sense, right, But I just think she's so 123 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 2: left and you know, you're going to have people like 124 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 2: Elizabeth Warren voting yes on her, and Republican should really 125 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 2: think about that. What does that mean that Elizabeth Warren 126 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 2: is for this person? What does it mean for your values? 127 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 2: What does it mean for your state's values? What do 128 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 2: your voters want so. 129 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 1: And the question also is does it make it easier 130 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: if you have a capain member who is backed by 131 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: all these groups who are actively working against you. And 132 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: by the way, I think it is important to acknowledge 133 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: that a part of the union vote moved to Trump. Right, 134 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: there is a working class vote that's very important part 135 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: of this coalition that you do not want to ignore. However, 136 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: I don't think he earned those votes by being aligned 137 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: with union heads and their preferred policies. Those That's not 138 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: how he earned those votes, So I'm not sure this 139 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: is the correct way to signal that you're into this coalition. 140 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 2: I agree, and I think he would have gotten those 141 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 2: votes even if the union head didn't sit out the 142 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 2: endorsement process. I'm not sure that he wouldn't have picked 143 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 2: up those votes anyway. 144 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: So, if anything, the teams to move, which I thought 145 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: was clever. He basically said I would like to speak 146 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: at the DNC and the RNC. The RNC took him 147 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: up on it, also clever. So this is mutually beneficial, 148 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: but I think it's more of a just a recognition 149 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: of where his rank and file is. Other unions are 150 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: less likely to make that recognition and take that on 151 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: as a fact on the ground. But it's probably good 152 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: for his survival as head of the as head of 153 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: the Union, That's right. 154 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we'll see what happens with this. If 155 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 2: they listened normally, and they should, they will vote down 156 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 2: this pick. I also I want to see how hard 157 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 2: the Trump administration goes for her. Will they have dvance 158 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 2: behind the scenes, you know, talking to House, you know, 159 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 2: Senate members, and I don't know, I don't know that 160 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 2: they will necessarily We'll see. 161 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 3: Well. 162 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: And Senator Mark Waynemullen, who has been I think sort 163 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: of a good gauge of how hard the Trump team 164 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: is rooting for various people. So he really went to 165 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: the mats for Chelsea Gabbard for RFK as well as 166 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 1: it's just been outspoken and Pete Hegseth. Of course, he 167 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: has come out and said, look, I disagree with her 168 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: on a bunch of things. I am very anti the 169 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 1: pro Act, which is this California export that they want 170 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: to make national, which is a terrible, terrible idea that 171 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: would kill the gig economy. However, I think it's important 172 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: that Trump has his picks, and I'm going to back her. 173 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 2: That's the thing that's the delicate weight that they're going 174 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 2: to have to figure out here whether backing Trump picks 175 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,559 Speaker 2: meaning means backing somebody who's this far to the left, 176 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 2: and you know, we'll see. 177 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: It, and who might stemy what you're actually trying to 178 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: do right now, Yeah. 179 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 2: That's exactly it. We'll be right back on normally. Some 180 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 2: news out of Florida, which I'm very excited about. Disney 181 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 2: has decided to make changes to their DEI policies. And 182 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 2: let me tell you, nobody roots for Disney to turn 183 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 2: itself around as much as a conservative parent living in 184 00:09:56,679 --> 00:10:00,599 Speaker 2: Florida with three children who are like, please stake is 185 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 2: back to Disney World, and I just like, nope, we 186 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 2: will not. We will not take you back to Disney 187 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 2: World until they shape up. And I love to see it. 188 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 2: I love to see it. 189 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks like at least promising right that they're 190 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: sort of they're removing some of the diversity inclusion metrics 191 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: and language in their you know, professional sort of handbook 192 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: type of publications. Beginning this fiscal year, Disney will replace 193 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: the diversity and Inclusion performance factor that it used to 194 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: evaluate executive compensation with a new talent strategy. The new 195 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: Talent Strategy factor includes concepts from its old diversity Inclusion factor, 196 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 1: but is more focused on how values drive business success, 197 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: and that I would suggest that business success should be 198 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: pretty top of the heap. If you would like folks 199 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: like our families to show up at your very expensive parks. 200 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's really and it's a win for Governor DeSantis. 201 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 2: Obviously he had this like long term fight with them, 202 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 2: which everybody thought he would lose. I think even Republicans 203 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 2: were like, Oh, I don't know if you should do this. 204 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, taken on the mouse. 205 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 2: The mouse is very very powerful, especially in Florida obviously, 206 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 2: but everywhere. Really, Disney's a giant American company, and to 207 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 2: have people have a negative impression of that company was it. 208 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 2: It really did suck for everyone. We didn't want Disney 209 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 2: to be this kind of company that we had to 210 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 2: watch pre watch all the movies and not trust our 211 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:28,319 Speaker 2: kids to watch it because who knew what they were 212 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 2: going to sneak in. And when Christopher Ruffo obviously had 213 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 2: this big expose where he had internal Disney videos where 214 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 2: they're discussing how they sneak messaging into their movies. You're like, whoa, 215 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 2: I can't let my kids see this. So yeah, the 216 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 2: focusing on business outcomes is great. I love to see it. Obviously, 217 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 2: we're not rushing back to Disney World anytime too soon, 218 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 2: because actually I already gave them the benefit of the 219 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 2: doubt ones one time a few years ago they were like, no, no, 220 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 2: we're done with this, and we went back to disney World, 221 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 2: and I was like, Okay, we're gonna We're gonna do this. 222 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 2: And then like three days after we got back from 223 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 2: disney World, they released a really anti American cartoon and 224 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 2: I was. 225 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: Like, well, we're done with you forever. 226 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 4: You know. 227 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: I'm no, I'm under no illusions that this is like 228 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: the fix. Yeah. I do think that they are smart 229 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: enough to be responding to the customer base that they 230 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:26,199 Speaker 1: need to be responding to. It's taken way too long, 231 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:30,199 Speaker 1: and you're right once you've lost ground in such an 232 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: incredible brand. I mean that that brand was flawless in 233 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 1: early years. The idea that they abandoned that and trust 234 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 1: is such a degree was insane. I mean a lot 235 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: of people went insane in twenty twenty to twenty twenty five. 236 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: But crazily insane for Disney, and when it communicated to 237 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:54,239 Speaker 1: me all these brands that I've become much less enthusiastic 238 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: about over the years, what it communicated to me was, Okay, A, 239 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: you have an agenda for my kids that's not mine. 240 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: And I can't have this on autopilot, like I can't 241 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: sit them down in front of a Disney film and 242 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,439 Speaker 1: feel like everything will be fine or we won't have 243 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: to have some conversation. And two that you don't like 244 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: or trust me, and I'm the one spending the money. 245 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it was like, who were they aiming that at? 246 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 2: I just how many parents want their kids to have 247 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 2: kind of these lessons and these morals imparted by these movies. 248 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 2: I don't think there were that many. 249 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: I think some of it is just like there's a 250 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: current and they're going with it, and they didn't realize 251 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: that the current had carried them so far off of 252 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: what they should be doing. That doesn't absolve them of responsibility, 253 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 1: because you have a company to run at all. But 254 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: I do think some of it is just like everybody 255 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: got carried away and they hired a bunch of people. 256 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: They're like hr monsters who just decided to run the 257 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: brand and like out of control. HR employees should not 258 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: be writing scripts for children's cartoons, Like that's just not no, 259 00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: they shouldn't. That's not the vibe. 260 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 2: Talked about it on a previous episode. But snow White 261 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:05,559 Speaker 2: is still coming up, and the snow. 262 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: White we've been talking about it forever. 263 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 2: It's like two years of like talking about the snow 264 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 2: White actress and how kooky she is. 265 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 1: The original snow White was hand drawn cell by seal 266 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: and it took less time than this movie has taken. 267 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 2: The son played me the snow White trailer on YouTube 268 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 2: and he was like, nobody's watching this movie, but like, 269 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 2: look at all the comments and all the comments, all 270 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 2: the comments were mockery. It was just it's not a 271 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 2: good scene for Disney. And I wonder what they're going 272 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 2: to do with this movie. And I said to my son, 273 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I think this movie is gonna 274 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 2: lose money. And he's like all Disney movies recently have 275 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 2: been losing money because that's what they do now. They 276 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 2: lose money because nobody wants to watch this you know, 277 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 2: woke insanity or or the you know, even if you 278 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 2: don't have the woke insanity. Nobody trusts you. That loss 279 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 2: of trust for a company that had so much of 280 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 2: our trust, that's really what the problem is and what 281 00:14:58,800 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 2: they're going to have to reab. 282 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: You're also asked to pay so much, Right, if you 283 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: go to the parks, you're paying for a premium experience. 284 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: You are paying prices that should get you a bunch 285 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: of respect and consideration. And if you're not getting that, 286 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: you don't want to pay those prices. I would add 287 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: one of the other changes they're making, which I kind 288 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 1: of enjoy is Disney is also Axios reported this. Disney 289 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: is also updating disclaimers that run before certain titles on 290 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: its streaming services that currently warn viewers of quote negative 291 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: depictions and or mistreatment of people or cultures. In a 292 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: forthcoming change, the tag will read they've softened it a 293 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: little bit. Quote this program is presented as originally created 294 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: and may it contain stereotypes or negative depictions and be 295 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: included in the details section. So it sounds like that 296 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: will be less in your face. We can all be 297 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: aware that you know, Peter Pan isn't a current project. 298 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: Thanks right, Thanks. 299 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 2: Guys, Yeah, you know, when you're at Disney World. You 300 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 2: could the last time I was there a few years 301 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 2: ago now, but there's so many things there that you 302 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 2: could see that the Wolkesters still haven't come for, but 303 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 2: you know it's obviously coming. You know, the bathrooms are 304 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 2: still male and female. There's a very pro America thread 305 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 2: throughout the park, and so it's they didn't get to 306 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 2: them completely. But the damage that they've done to this 307 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 2: company and to this brand, I wonder how long, if 308 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 2: ever it'll take to undo. The only part of the 309 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 2: Disney operation that I've read is making money is the parks, 310 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 2: because the parks are pretty fantastic. I mean, they're very 311 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 2: well done. But the rest of the products Disney streaming 312 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 2: is you know, a giant money loss. The movies aren't 313 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 2: doing well. 314 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: So we'll see some of the move because they saw 315 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: this growing segment of Disney adults, who many of whom 316 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: are actually progressive and probably happy with a lot of 317 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: these changes, and they just put way too much money 318 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: on that segment of the customer base. Was national in 319 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: that way. 320 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 2: Maybe, but you know, there could have been the conservative 321 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:10,159 Speaker 2: Disney adult who didn't go. Actually the biggest adult I 322 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 2: know as a conservative woman, So I don't know. I 323 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 2: have sort of a questionable thinking on this. I'm sure 324 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,439 Speaker 2: a lot of them are liberal, and she does defend 325 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 2: Disney a lot because she loves Disney, and she loves 326 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 2: Disney ran like, you know what I. 327 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 1: Mean, I could be a Disney adult. When I've been 328 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 1: back as an adult with my kids, I'm like, wait 329 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 1: a second, I feel like this would be really fun 330 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: when I didn't have anyone. So I do. 331 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like drinking through Epcot without my kids. 332 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: I feel like I rose in France. You know I'm 333 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 1: doing well, So I haven't. I haven't crossed that bridge. 334 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: Don't anybody get me wrong. Yeah, however, you know he's 335 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 1: a little you know, I understand the impulse. 336 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,880 Speaker 2: Basically, if Disney recovers and Mary Catherine's kids get older 337 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 2: move out of the house, she's moving to Orlando and 338 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 2: doing daily trip to. 339 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: Disney World season pass. Baby, I'm gonna take I'll take 340 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: one kid as plausible deniability. I know you're twenty one, 341 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:09,239 Speaker 1: it's fine, Spine, just let us go. 342 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll drink together at Epcott. 343 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 4: Why not? 344 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 1: I think you're you're more likely to see me at 345 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: Dollywood for like the next five eight years. Until they 346 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:17,880 Speaker 1: earn that back. 347 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 2: We're going to take a short break and come right 348 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:27,640 Speaker 2: back with normally for our last segment, back to Doge. 349 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 2: Doge is doing it's good work, and Democrats are handling 350 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 2: it really, really well. 351 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: So the group that I mentioned earlier, the American Federation 352 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: of Government Employees, in true government employee fashion, took a 353 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: Tuesday in the middle of the day to go to 354 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:53,199 Speaker 1: Washington and protest their bosses who are us and the 355 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 1: elected officials that we elected. And they have some thoughts 356 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 1: about why we shouldn't be messing with it. So let's 357 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 1: just play a little bit of this inspiring clip of 358 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 1: the American Federation of Governor government Employees who want us 359 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: to back them at every turn. 360 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 4: Oh, which side are you on? Which side are you on? 361 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 5: Me? 362 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 4: Which side are you on? Which side are you on? 363 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 4: We'll fight against Josh. We're a fight on mess, no way. 364 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 5: Landscap within our walls. 365 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 4: We'll fight from don to dusk. Which side are you on? 366 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 4: Which side are you on? Which side are you on? 367 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 4: Which side are you on? 368 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 2: Trump's coming for our unions. 369 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 4: He wants us off to fame, he wants us to 370 00:19:55,880 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 4: bow to him, but we want him in jail. Oh, 371 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 4: which shide are you on? Which shote? 372 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 5: Are you all? Which shot? 373 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: Are you. 374 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 2: Not their side? I'm whatever they're protesting for against. I 375 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 2: would be like, I'm not on your side. 376 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 1: The other side. That's the answer, the other side. Can 377 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 1: I also just say, there's got to be someone in 378 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: that crowd who can sing? 379 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 4: Right? What is that? 380 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 2: I could sing that? 381 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: Whoever that is on the mic, Put the singer on 382 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 1: the mic. This is some real tired nineteen sixty eight nostalgia, 383 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: except they're doing it at our expense during a work day, and. 384 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 2: They're saying they want the president in jail because they 385 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 2: don't like him and they don't like his policies, so 386 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 2: arrest him. I mean, and this is the same party, 387 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 2: this is the party that we're supposed to turn to 388 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 2: for you know, normalcy. I just they've lost the plot completely. 389 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 1: No, and I again said this before, but federal employees 390 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: have lavish protections that normal workers do not have. When 391 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: Americans realize what they have at their back, they will 392 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: be frustrated by the number of protections, among which include 393 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 1: like you know, taking the day off, protesting in the street, 394 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: which is of course First Amendment protected. Even if you're 395 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 1: a really bad singer. However, calling for your boss to 396 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: be jailed in public on video, generally for a normal worker, 397 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: would be a problem. Like that's suspension. 398 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, yeah, we should try that, you know, we 399 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 2: should like go out and protest and be like Clay 400 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 2: and Buck in jail. 401 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, just like I'm sure that would be fine. 402 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 2: They'd like that. 403 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 1: But this is the universe that they operate in, the 404 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,479 Speaker 1: universe of entitlement, the universe of you don't get to 405 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: ask us questions. Dooge doesn't get to ask us questions. 406 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: But Elon Musk went to the Oval office to explain that, indeed, 407 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: we are going to continue asking questions. The Trump administration, 408 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 1: by the way, has these temporary restraining orders against it, 409 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: one of which prevents the Senate confirmed Treasury Secretary from 410 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: looking at the records of Treasury payments. Now that idea 411 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 1: seems on its face insane. Ye, there was a follow 412 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:25,360 Speaker 1: up ruling that said, Okay, the Secretary of the Treasury can, 413 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: but no one else who's not Senate confirmed can look, 414 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: which is not the way things are done in other administrations. 415 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 1: But this is special. At any rate, They're doing all 416 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: this work and Elon shows up in the Oval Office 417 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: to explain it, and Trump is like, tell them what 418 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 1: you doing, Elon, And Elon standing there with his kid 419 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 1: on his shoulders, it love it, explaining quite calmly and clearly, 420 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: look at all the insane stuff we've run into. We 421 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: do not think this is a good investment for the 422 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 1: American people, even beyond just like what the programs are doing, 423 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 1: but the way we do business in the federal government 424 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 1: is not helpful to the American people. And some of 425 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: the anecdotes were wild, particularly this one about when he 426 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,360 Speaker 1: ran into the issue of how many people can retire 427 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: per month and he asked a question. One of the 428 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 1: things I enjoy about Elon Muskus is he's just like, 429 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 1: but why right, let's get to the bottom of this, 430 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 1: and on the issue of retirements in the federal government. 431 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 1: This is what he found. This is not a joke. 432 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 3: The most number of people that could retire possibly in 433 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 3: a month is ten thousand. 434 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 5: We're like, whoa, why is that? 435 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:42,360 Speaker 3: Well, because all the retirement paperwork is manual on paper, 436 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,959 Speaker 3: It's manually calculated and written down our piece of paper. 437 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 3: Then it goes down to mine, like what do you 438 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 3: mean of mine? Like, yeah, there's a limestone mine where 439 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 3: we stole all the retirement paperwork. 440 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 5: And you look at picture of a picture of this mine. 441 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 5: We'll post some pictures afterwards. 442 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 3: And this is this mine looks like something out of 443 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 3: the fifties because it was started in nineteen fifty five. 444 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 5: It looks like it's like a time warp. 445 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 3: And then the speed, then the limiting factor is the 446 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 3: speed at which the mine, the shaft elevator can move, 447 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 3: determines how many people can retire from the federal from 448 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 3: the federal government, and the elevator breaks down. 449 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,479 Speaker 5: And I said, sometimes, and then you can't. Nobody can. 450 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 1: Nobody can retire. 451 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 5: Doesn't that sound crazy? Yeah, there's like a thousand people 452 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 5: that work on this. 453 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 3: So I think if we take those people and say, like, 454 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 3: you know what, instead of working in a mine shaft 455 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 3: and carry manila and envelopes to you know, with boxes 456 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 3: in a mineshaft. 457 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 5: You could do practically anything else and you. 458 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 3: Would add to the goods and services of the United 459 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 3: States in a more useful way. 460 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 2: This sounds completely made up. Who came up with this 461 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 2: Kakamamy idea? 462 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: It's not made up. It's called the Iron Mountain. It's 463 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: a real thing. 464 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 2: It was in the Washington Post a few years ago, 465 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 2: and so like all these liberals are like it was 466 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 2: in the Washington Post, like, oh, yeah, you knew about this, 467 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,679 Speaker 2: You knew about the minds that we have the retirement 468 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 2: paperwork in. You read about it in the Washington Post. 469 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: Like six years ago. And the thing is it's symbolic. 470 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,919 Speaker 1: It is not It's not that this would solve the 471 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: problems with the government. It's that this is the whole 472 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 1: federal government. Yeah, this is how they think it's okay 473 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: to do business. And if you say, hey, maybe a 474 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,679 Speaker 1: limestone mind shaft is not the best way to maybe 475 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: retirement records in the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty five, 476 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: they will tell you just don't understand how the federal 477 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: government works. Okay, okay, let me let me teach you 478 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: a few things. And Elon is like, no, no, no, no, 479 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: I'm doing the teaching right now because. 480 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 2: It's crazy, and he says it He's just. 481 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 1: Like people and go, that's crazy. 482 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. I just I think that there's going to be 483 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,199 Speaker 2: I know, we have normy listeners who are not on 484 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 2: X all the time, and this might be the first 485 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 2: time that they're hearing about this lime shaft. Guys, this 486 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 2: is real, This is a real thing that our crazy 487 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 2: government is doing. And I'm so glad that Elon is 488 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 2: there figuring it out and changing things because this needs 489 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 2: to be changed. And I have to say, there was 490 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 2: an arc Insights pull out today and his ideas are 491 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 2: very popular. Twenty eight percent of vote. Only twenty eight 492 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 2: percent of voters believe the federal government has had their 493 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 2: best interest in mind as it decides how to spend 494 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 2: their taxpayer dollars. Like, yeah, I'm surprised the number is 495 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 2: that high. Eighty two percent of voters believe waste, fraud 496 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 2: and abuse is a serious problem inside the government. Eighty 497 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 2: two percent. I mean, the fact that eighty two percent 498 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 2: of Americans believe anything together is amazing and a big 499 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 2: step forward. And sixty two percent of voters support DOJE 500 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 2: efforts to reduce waste, fraud and abuse. I mean, this 501 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 2: is a popular thing that he's doing. You know, Michael Schellenberg, 502 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 2: who is just this excellent follow on x he tweeted 503 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 2: the Government Accountability Officer Office under Biden so important to note, 504 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 2: not right now, but under the Biden administration estimated last 505 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 2: year that we are losing two hundred and thirty three 506 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 2: to five hundred and twenty one billion dollars per year 507 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,719 Speaker 2: to fraud. The fact that Elon is trying to recover 508 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 2: this is massively popular and it should be well. 509 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 1: And The New York Times framed this press conference in 510 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 1: the Oval Office, by the way, by saying that Elon 511 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: Musk alleges without proof fraud in the federal government. It's like, dude, A, 512 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: we have proof. B I would invite you to do 513 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: your accounting just like the federal government does. And so 514 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 1: see how that goes for you. Yeah, good luck. See 515 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: if you might be indicted for fraud if you tell 516 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 1: the IRS that you lost two hundred and thirty six 517 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,719 Speaker 1: billion dollars and you don't know what happened to it. 518 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: He pointed out in this press conference. Also, again, I 519 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 1: think the megaphone is very important because people will see 520 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:03,880 Speaker 1: these off the wall appearances of Elon Musk saying, Hey, 521 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: we're paying people's social security who are one hundred and 522 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 1: fifty years old. Would you like to find them for 523 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 1: me and explain why we're paying these people, because I 524 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: don't think they exist. And if that's not proof enough 525 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 1: for the New York Times. In addition to the GAO numbers. 526 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 1: They don't care, is the thing. They just want the 527 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: spickett to keep running. 528 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 2: That's right, They really don't care. And it's just the 529 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 2: insanity of the reaction. So Elon in that video is 530 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 2: wearing a black Maga hat, and so there are all 531 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 2: these calls to have them investigated because you're not supposed 532 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 2: to wear political materials in the White House, and it's 533 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 2: just like, come. 534 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: On, guys, I know, I just I don't think it 535 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: flies now. I think there's political risk in moving fast 536 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: and breaking things, which is what people do in the 537 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: tech sector. They fail fast. That's kind of the idea 538 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: behind a lot of Elon's endeavors, and so you've got 539 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 1: to be careful with what you might break along the way. However, 540 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 1: so far, again, as we've discussed, this is under the 541 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: United States Digital Service auspices. They have legal allowances. He 542 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: is appointed as a special government and government employee, just 543 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: as Anita Dunn was, who was all up in everything 544 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: in the by the administration. It is not extraordinary in 545 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: the ways they're telling you it's extraordinary. It might be 546 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: extraordinarily more effective in the end, which might be the problem, 547 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 1: but I don't have an issue with this going forward 548 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 1: and him talking about it as he's doing it. He 549 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 1: said at one point, look, I'm going to get some 550 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 1: things wrong and they should be corrected. Now, a bunch 551 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: of people cut that quote and said, I'm just going 552 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: to get some things wrong, and like, I'm lying to 553 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: you basically, But that's not what he said. I think 554 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: he should be careful. However, he says, look like I'm 555 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: going to make mistakes and I'm going to correct those mistakes. 556 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: So I think that's like important context for all of this. 557 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, and his transparency is very very welcome after four 558 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 2: years of opaqueness and who knows what and nobody knew 559 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 2: who was in charge of what or who was doing what. 560 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 2: Seeing Elon say this is what we're finding, here's a 561 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 2: story for you. All of that is I'm loving it. 562 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 2: I'm loving it. The Elon era in government, all about 563 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 2: it all right? 564 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 1: Well, And by the way, I should say, the Trump 565 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: administration is just in the customary way appealing these decisions. 566 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: Everyone's telling you there's a constitutional crisis, and yet he 567 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 1: continues to go through the process with his lawyers to 568 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 1: these I think in many cases activist judges saying, hey, 569 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: maybe we actually do have the powers of the executive branch. 570 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,959 Speaker 2: Maybe the Treasury Secretary should be able to see documents 571 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 2: in the Treasury. 572 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: I don't know, call me crazy so crazy town yep. 573 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 2: Well, thank you for joining us on normally Normally airs 574 00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 2: Tuesdays and Thursdays, and you can subscribe anywhere you get 575 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 2: your podcasts. 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