1 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the forty Niners You've Got Mail podcast 2 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: sponsored by Manscape. We had him last week. He did 3 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: so great we had to have him again, bringing back 4 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:20,479 Speaker 1: better in NFL Reporter Scott bar to break down what 5 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,279 Speaker 1: all transpired over the weekend. I know, at first, Scot, 6 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: you and I were talking about, you know, what to 7 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:27,639 Speaker 1: expect heady into this draft. We talked about positions that 8 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: we thought the forty Niners would address. Um. I think 9 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: in a sense both of us are surprised in a 10 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 1: number of areas. But coming off of the draft, how 11 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: are you just general overview, how are you feeling following 12 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,440 Speaker 1: the forty Niners draft? Well, I love the quarterback selection. 13 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: I don't know how you cannot. And you spent time 14 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 1: with Trey Lance. I'd love to know your your interactions 15 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: with him as well, But he just seems like a 16 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: magnetic personality. You can throw the ball a hundred miles 17 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: through the air and landed on a dime. You have 18 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: to love that pick. You have to love going for 19 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: great nest there, which is exactly what the forty Ers 20 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: do with that trade and that selection. As you work 21 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: your way through the draft, we're gonna get to some 22 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: of these question marks about why didn't they take X 23 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: or Y. You look at it and they got a 24 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: couple offensive linemen, a couple of defensive backs, a couple 25 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: of running backs question mark, exclamation point, question mark, and 26 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: you look at their UH draft as a whole, and 27 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: you think this is the type of draft that is 28 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: possible for a team with an already talented roster. You 29 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: can add depth, you can flush fill out this roster, 30 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 1: address some needs. And I think it was a pretty 31 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: good job by Kyle Shanahan, by g M John Lynch 32 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 1: that will make this forty Niners team better. They put 33 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: a lot of effort into stopping the opposing pastor in 34 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: the secondary, protecting the passer no matter who is in 35 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: the backfield. All that stuff is important as you try 36 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: to take the next step and get back to where 37 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: the forty Niners were in twenty nineteen. Yeah, and we're 38 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: gonna talk a little bit about out some of the 39 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: pics why they decided to go certain directions and not 40 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: other directions. We're gonna talk a little bit more about 41 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: Trey Lance, but I'll put a pin i'mm excited to 42 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: tell my story about, you know, getting to sit down 43 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 1: with him and getting to meet him his first dance facility. 44 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: I think I'll put a pin in that. Well, we'll 45 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: hold that until we get to the topic of quarterbacks. 46 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: But I think we have to address one of the 47 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: biggest topics coming out of this draft for the forty Niners. 48 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: And you know, usually we hold off to get to 49 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: the fan questions, but this one was was so urgent 50 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: that I think we addressed this at the top of 51 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: this podcast. But a meek mind got from Canada asked, Okay, 52 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: what's going on here? Why didn't the forty Niners draft 53 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 1: a single wide receiver in this draft? Considering that there 54 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: were so many talented receivers going into this draft. We know, 55 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 1: we talked to a number of draft analysts and they said, 56 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 1: this is a great draft for wide receivers and cornerbacks. Well, 57 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: the forty Niners did get a cornerback, but why didn't 58 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 1: they address the wider rest either position? And I'm going 59 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 1: to throw out a shameless plug. I don't care. There 60 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: is a fantastic article on forty dot com written by 61 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 1: Scott where he he breaks down with Kyle Shanahan and 62 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 1: John Lynch how they analyzed the wide receiver position in 63 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 1: their decision not to go that direction, actually breaking an 64 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 1: eighteen year streak of not drafting a wide receiver. But Scott, 65 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: what did you take from what Kyle and John had 66 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: to say and why did the boarding nine select a 67 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 1: wide receiver? Well, first of all, thank you for the 68 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: shameless plug. I always appreciate that in the checks in 69 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: the mail for that, I would say that and go 70 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: to the article to read full comments. There were a 71 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: lot of them because after the forty Nins draft there 72 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: were four to eight thousand questions about slot receivers and 73 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: the status of that position group because it was an 74 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: eyebrow raiser no matter how you look at it. And 75 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: what John Lynch and Kyle Shanahan had to say is 76 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: simply this is that once you get deeper into the draft, 77 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: it becomes about the old, best player available, highest ranked 78 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: guy on your board that you have conviction with. John 79 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: Lynch had a great example. They didn't plan on taking 80 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: two interior offensive lineman or two offensive linemen, and there 81 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: is Western Michigan's Jalen Moore in the fifth round, and 82 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:20,799 Speaker 1: it's a guy that the coaching staff and the scouts 83 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: believed in. It was the highest rated player on the 84 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 1: board normally as a fan or as someone who cares 85 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: deeply about making sure the ship is perfectly right. And uh, 86 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: you know, battened down that you would have thought wide 87 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: receiver there, But they went with best player available and 88 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: they did that, did that at a couple of different points. 89 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: So that's their argument for why they didn't end up 90 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: with a slot receiver, which became a pretty clear need 91 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 1: when Kendrick Borne took money from New England uh and 92 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 1: left to go across the country. That was a disappointment. Man, 93 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: what a personality, what a player, and what and what 94 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: a vacancy that you're gonna have to fill. So for 95 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: them to not do that, I think is um is 96 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 1: a fair legitimate question. Kyle Shanahan said that they have 97 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 1: more than six NFL receivers already on their roster, six 98 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: being sort of the maximum number of wide receivers that 99 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 1: you would carry. You can go down the list and 100 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: see what he's talking about. But that true slot specialist 101 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 1: that is so important, especially on third and four and 102 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: with the way that Kyle Shanahan likes to use those 103 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 1: slot guys. Think about when Trent Taylor was healthy and 104 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 1: at his best, he was very good at that kind 105 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 1: of what Wes Welker has made a living on for 106 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: so long. They don't have that guy. And there were 107 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: a bunch of guys, especially in the third round Kiana, 108 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: that you looked at and you thought that guy could 109 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: fill in. He's a speedster, he can make things happen. 110 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: Kyle can get him the ball in space, and they 111 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: can do some really amazing things. But more often than not, 112 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 1: whether it was um Elijah More from Old Miss in 113 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: the second round or if you went down there were 114 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: a couple of good options there in the third round, 115 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 1: we thought that's the guy, and then he gets taken 116 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 1: a couple of picks beforehand. So I think deep down 117 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 1: they probably wanted to add a slot wide out um, 118 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: but it kind of just didn't set up for them 119 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: the way that they would like. Yeah, and just reiterating 120 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 1: what you were talking about and what you wrote about. 121 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: You know the forty niners, they have this draft board. 122 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: They have their guys and and where they are on 123 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,559 Speaker 1: this board, and they do they have these guys ranked 124 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: to whereas you know, you're looking at this board and 125 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 1: this guy is gone and this guy is gone, and 126 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: they don't want to reach for something just for the 127 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: sake of you know, okay, we checked that box. They 128 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 1: want the best player available that fits the team's need. 129 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: And and that's kind of how things shook out for 130 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: this team. And I know you kind of look at 131 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: this draft and you're like, but not one wide receiver. 132 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: But the forty nine has felt that, you know, looking 133 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: where they were sitting at let's say down too, and 134 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:05,239 Speaker 1: and who's available? Well, do you pass up a guard 135 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 1: who you know solidifies and adds a depth at a spot, 136 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: and who's the highest ranked on your draft board? Or 137 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: do you drop a few who knows, I'm throwing out 138 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: a random number, but do you drop about thirty picks 139 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: and grab this receiver who who might not necessarily be 140 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: around two guys? So it's a tricky situation, but that's 141 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: how the forty Niners explained their their decisions that for 142 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: not going for a wide receiver in this draft. Um. 143 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: But again, now we kind of look at the forty 144 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,679 Speaker 1: niners roster. We know they got they have their Deebo Samuel, 145 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: we know they have their brand and a Mohammed's and 146 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: new another name that you know, I think sometimes we 147 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: do forget about as Travis Benjamin is another guy who 148 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: was still on this roster, and then we're looking for 149 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: the status on Jalen Heard and Kyle Shanahan and John 150 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: Lynch talked about him a little bit this week and 151 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: said that he's on track and he's working really hard 152 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: and he's out rehabbing a a and they're excited to 153 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:04,679 Speaker 1: get him back into the facility to start monitoring his rehab. 154 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: But that's another name that's in the fold. So, um, 155 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: not all is lost at the wide receiver position, but um, 156 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: I know what those undrafted free agents coming in and 157 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: the forty Niners will certainly look be looking to beef 158 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: up that position in any way how although they did 159 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: not do that during the draft. But outside of wide receiver, Scott, 160 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 1: you and I were talking literally a week ago from today, 161 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: and I think we kind of gave our predictions on 162 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: what are some positions of need for the forty Niners, 163 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: And you know, we talked about wide receiver. We talked 164 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: about beefing up that old line. But also I've made 165 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: I made a big emphasis that the forty Niners always 166 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: you can bet on them addressing the pass rush every year. 167 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: The forty Niners going to this draft and you know somewhere, 168 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: if it's not in that first second round, somewhere in 169 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 1: that draft, they're adding someone on that D line. Did 170 00:08:56,280 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: not happen this year. What's your thoughts there. It's always 171 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: scary when you have someone that you would like to 172 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 1: count on as heavily as the forty Niners want D 173 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: four to be the chaos creator, and he missed most 174 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: of the year. Neck injuries are always scary. He's had 175 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: some soft tissue injuries in the past two unless it 176 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: has nothing to do with the confidence in D for 177 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: the player, right, that guy is legit. He gets after people, 178 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: and him and Nick Bosa are as good of edge 179 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: rushing tambo tandem as there is. But you don't know 180 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: exactly how he's gonna come back. You have Nick Bosa 181 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: coming off the other side, coming off of an A 182 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: C L. We've seen the instagram posts, right, we know 183 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: that he looks great. I've said, and I will continue 184 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: to scream from the mountaintops. Biggest addition to any nfc 185 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: A West team this year overlast Nick Bosa. But you 186 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: thought get more depth, especially at the edge rusher spot. 187 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: I look at the tackle area. I'm not nearly as concerned. 188 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: This was not a deep tackle I'm sorry, defensive tackle draft. 189 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: But I did think, especially with those um picks in 190 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: the fifth round, I thought, if you just add a 191 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: talented guy that you could develop, maybe a guy that 192 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: could be a third down specialists or some solid injury protection, 193 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: that's what we're talking about here. But there were a 194 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: bunch of mock drafts that had the forty Niners taking 195 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: an edge rusher in the second round, right, and it 196 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: was definitely a need. So I was a bit surprised 197 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: about that just because of the health issue. They have 198 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: a lot of talent they could run with a with 199 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 1: with Street, Boasta Ford and Armstead, and you're feeling pretty 200 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: good about yourself, but there's a there's just too many 201 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: unknowns that make you wonder, gosh, what if somebody gets hurt. 202 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: You don't want to end up in a position like 203 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: you were last year where they're just trying to break 204 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:58,559 Speaker 1: out the duct tape and find a way to keep 205 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: the car moving along that defensive front. So that was 206 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: a concern to me. That's another one of those things 207 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:09,079 Speaker 1: that I'm sure in a perfect world, if the forty 208 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: Niners were able to go down their checklist and everything 209 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:16,719 Speaker 1: Matt matched up with need and the spot that they 210 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: had available, maybe it would all line up. Maybe we'd 211 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: be sitting here talking about getting a shifty slot guy 212 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:29,719 Speaker 1: and uh a rangy, lanky edge rusher that could bend 213 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 1: around the outside and work under Bossa and learned from 214 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,559 Speaker 1: Ford and all those types of things. That's not necessarily 215 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: how it worked, and ultimately I think there is some concern, 216 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: but again it's more about injury protection than man We 217 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 1: don't have a starter, so it's it would have been 218 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: a luxury edition, But I don't think it's the end 219 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: of the world that they didn't get one. Manscape is 220 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: the official below the waste grooming partner of the forty niners. 221 00:11:56,600 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: Try manscaped and get off and free shipping with at 222 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: forty niners at manscaped dot com. That's code forty niners 223 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: for off at manscape dot com. And you know, I'm 224 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: no draft expert. I I just like everyone else. I 225 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 1: kind of follow along with, you know, the Daniel Jeremiah's 226 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: of the world, the milk Keiper's and and from what 227 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 1: I've gathered, this was not a deep defensive tackle draft, 228 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 1: nor was it extremely deep in uh guys, coming off 229 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: the edge as well. So I believe it's one of 230 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 1: those situations that goes back to the topic we were 231 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: just talking about. But if somebody was available for the 232 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 1: forty Niners that matched up with where they were picking, 233 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: and we're on that draft more than I I'm willing 234 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: to put money on at the forty niners absolutely hands down. UH, 235 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:49,079 Speaker 1: would definitely add some depth there at that position. But 236 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: I think a lot has to do with where they 237 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: had guys, um, you know placed, And this is a 238 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: tricky year when you when you think about it as 239 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: a whole, you know, you have a lot of shortened 240 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: college seasons. Uh, you have a lot of guys that 241 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: opted out. It's a really tricky year to be able 242 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: to evaluate talent. And I think that goes across the 243 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: board for all thirty two. Um. So I think the 244 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: forty Niners really zeroed in on these guys that they have. 245 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: They seem extremely happy with the guys they selected. But 246 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: that brings me to talking about the other side of 247 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:23,079 Speaker 1: we're talking about that D line. Let's talk about the 248 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 1: other side of the trenches. Who would have thought I, 249 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: you and I talked about you know, we we would 250 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,599 Speaker 1: expect the forty Niners. Definitely to add some depth to 251 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: that old line. Listen, you just invested a couple of 252 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: years ago, you invest heavily in the quarterback position at 253 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo. You do that again this year, giving up 254 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: a lot of capital to land tray Lands. So of 255 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: course you want to put forth some some money and 256 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: protect that investment, protecting your quarterback. They do that not 257 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: once but twice in the draft their second round pick 258 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: Aaron Banks out of Notre Dame, who I say is 259 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 1: a factory for a lineman. Then you do that again 260 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 1: on day three with Jalen Moore. Um, you know what's 261 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 1: your what's your thoughts on the forty Niners heavily investing 262 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: in that old line protection. I think it was a 263 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:16,839 Speaker 1: smart thing because of the investment that you have in 264 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: in these quarterbacks and the investment that you have in 265 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: in keeping that running game as dangerous as it's always been. 266 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: I just penciled out the starting five. Trent Williams maybe 267 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: the best in the business, lake In Tomlinson Man has 268 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: had a career revolution Alex mac All decade team. Aaron 269 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: Banks could be could be the only starter from this 270 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: entire draft class on week one, Right, everybody else is 271 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: kind of depth editions and things like that. But Aaron 272 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: Banks there and then his teammate Mike Um McGlinchey. That 273 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: looks pretty good, right, That seems very solid. And but 274 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: you need what seven or eight offensive lineman to be 275 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: able to last through the whole season. Having Daniel Brun skilled, 276 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: a versatility to be able to go to center and 277 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: guard um. You have Jalen Moore can play Guarden tackle. 278 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: You have Colton mckivot's a guy that I really like 279 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: from last year, Guarden tackle. Sean Coleman is back. I mean, 280 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: there's just a lot of options here that are attractive. 281 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: That we just talked about injury protection as are really 282 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: only concerned for the addresser spot is that you look 283 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: at the offensive line. I have zero injury protection questions. 284 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: I The only question I have is that when they 285 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: have to go through and pick their offensive linemen for 286 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: that first fifty three man, that's gonna be hard. That's 287 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: how stacked they are. And if there's an area where 288 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: you want to feel really comfortable to say, Okay, we're 289 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: only gonna keep eight, maybe nine offensive linemen, but we 290 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: got ten or eleven offensive linemen in the building. That's 291 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: one of those good problems to have sort of situations. 292 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: I'd even mentioned Tom Compton's back in the fray. Now 293 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: there's there's a lot of depth at a very key spot, 294 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: and I think that if that area is anchored down 295 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: with both talent quality and depth, that's where good things 296 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: happened along the offensive front. It was a concerted effort 297 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: to get better there, to get deeper there after everything 298 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: that they've gone through along the offensive front. Kudos to 299 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: the front office for getting that done. They aren't always 300 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: sexy picks because there's no stats involved with them. You're 301 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: not gonna put Aaron Banks on your uh fantasy maybe 302 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: you should. Uh you know, big man touchdowns are my favorite. 303 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: But nonetheless, uh, you know, good picks. I like it, 304 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: but it's true, it's not the most glamorous picks, um 305 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: you know, especially when you have some of those flash 306 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: ear names up there. But they're in necessity, especially when 307 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: you think about, um, you know, your quarterbacks getting injured 308 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: or being put in one of those compromising positions. It 309 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: makes you think about how valuable it is to have 310 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 1: that luxury of having a number of old linemen and 311 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 1: good old linemen to protect the protect your quarterback. But also, uh, 312 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: the point that you brought brought up was forty Niners 313 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 1: run game. I mean, you know, Kyle Shanahan's off offense 314 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 1: is predicated on the run game, and forty Niners definitely 315 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: solidified that position in the draft, not one, but two 316 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: running backs. Who would have saw that? I said on 317 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: our last podcast that you know, this was my wild card. 318 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: I can see the forty Niners draft in a running 319 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: back somewhere in here, and and they did that, um 320 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 1: Trey Sermon out of Ohio State and then also allied 321 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: Elijah Mitchell from Louisiana Lafayette. Getting two guys. They have 322 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 1: different skill sets, they're not they're not the same type 323 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: of running back. You look at forty Niners running back 324 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: room and all of these guys run like what for 325 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: for something? I don't know. It's a really really fast 326 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: running back group. But Trery Sermon doesn't necessarily fit that 327 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: mobile Kyle Shannah. And it's something about his his his 328 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: traits and the way that he he diagnoses the game 329 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: and his running style fits what Kyle Shanahan likes to do. 330 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 1: But your thoughts, that's a crowded room hold on. I'm 331 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: gonna try to go through these names. This is gonna 332 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 1: be a lot. Let's see, we have Rhea Mostered, we 333 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: have Jeff Wilson. Uh. We have Wayne Gallman who was 334 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: an offseason edition, um currently on the roster. We have 335 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: undrafted guy ja Michael Hasty, who a lot of forty 336 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: Niners fans were excited to see last year take the field. Um. 337 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 1: Then you know we have these two additional additions that 338 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: I just mentioned, Trey Sermon and Elijah Mitchell. Um. You 339 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 1: also have a guy who was on the practice squad 340 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: and made his way back and forth last season, but 341 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 1: Austin Walter who spent some time with the team the 342 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: last two seasons. So if my math serves me right, 343 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 1: that's seven running backs, Scott, that's a lot of running backs. 344 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 1: Did you see that tweet during the draft from Raheem Moster, 345 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: He said, welcome to the r B room. Trey Sermon 346 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 1: he uses his Twitter handle, and they said we're packed 347 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: to the ceiling. That's not entirely false. It's almost like 348 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 1: packed to the ceiling, but like a sardine can in there. 349 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: There's so many running backs and really so many guys 350 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: with talent it's a big group. Talk about some tough 351 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: decisions on the back end when you have to make 352 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: a fifty three out of this eighty or ninety I'm sorry, 353 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: this ninety man roster. Tough choices coming up. But you 354 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: also got to think big picture here. All those running 355 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 1: backs that you named, most of them anyway, are going 356 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: to be a free agents of some designation at the 357 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: end of the season heading into two. So you've got 358 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: to look to the future a little bit. Tray sermon. 359 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: You're right, the forty doesn't wow you. Like Elijah Mitchell's 360 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 1: forty was real fast. We've seen that Raheem Moster is 361 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: like the Usain Bolt of pulling away from safeties on 362 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 1: long runs. Right, that's the way that forty nine is 363 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,959 Speaker 1: running back looks when they find open space. Tray sermon. 364 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 1: But John Lynch was saying that the short area quickness 365 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: his ten yards split is really good, and that's one 366 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: of those things where how often are you gonna run 367 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: forty yards? Necessarily you want to be able to run 368 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: seventy You want to be able to run for long runs. 369 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: But if you're quick through through that ten yard burst, 370 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:34,120 Speaker 1: a great one cut and go runner, which is exactly 371 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: what Kyle Shanahan is looking for. Make your decision, make 372 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: your choice, Bang and Trey Sermon might run at an 373 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: angle slashed by you, or he may run directly through you, 374 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: something safety is gonna have avery aware of. From a 375 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 1: guy who's six ft to fift I like the pick. 376 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 1: I think there was some surprise they get rid of 377 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 1: two fourth round picks to move up and get him. 378 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: But nonetheless, this is a guy at Ohio State played 379 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 1: tons of zone. He understands the scheme. He'll be able 380 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: to step right in and compete. And Kyle Shanahan brought 381 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 1: up a great point. When you look at RB one, 382 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: two three, how often has he seen I wish I 383 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: had the stat right in front of me, so nobody 384 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: correct me on Twitter later. But it's something like this. 385 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: The third, the number three running back quote unquote took 386 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,239 Speaker 1: like thirty of the carries last year because of the 387 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: injury issues, So you can't have enough depth at that position. 388 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: We've seen so many guys that no one's ever heard 389 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 1: of turn into fantastic producers working in Kyle Shanahan's scheme. 390 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,239 Speaker 1: There's a lot of guys who can run. You can 391 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: keep those guys fresh, maybe keep them away and maybe 392 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: out of harm's way. Taking thirty hits per game, but 393 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: it is a lot. I can understand why eyebrows were raised. 394 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: When you get another running back right there, it's a 395 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 1: crowded room. But if that's a skill set that you 396 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 1: want to use that offensive line for, I don't know. 397 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: It's hard to argue with the guys they got, with 398 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 1: the fits they got, with the speed and the physicality 399 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: that Sermon adds. Yeah, yeah, and uh, you know, doing 400 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,439 Speaker 1: my research on some of these guys and kind of 401 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: looking up the talent that the forty nine is a 402 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: bringing in. Uh, you look at the running backs available. 403 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: You know, you have Nagy Harris, who has been you know, 404 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 1: regarded as probably likely and it ended up happening being 405 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: that first running back off of the board. And then 406 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: you have your running back out of Clemson being the 407 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: next one. But if you start going down that list, 408 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: Javonte Williams out of North Carolina, it's another one. But 409 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: if you start going down that list, um Trey Sermon 410 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 1: was was ranked in the top five. He's more of 411 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: an underrated guy because you have some of these really 412 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: big names that sit at the top of this you 413 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 1: know draft projection list, but Trey's name has been in 414 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: that top five. Is underrated but still high caliber running 415 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 1: back who who could be prime for a lot of success, 416 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 1: especially and a Kyle Shanahan offense. So excited to see 417 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,040 Speaker 1: that one play out. But as we're talking about it, 418 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: and you know, it's far too early for us to 419 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 1: start judging, you know, who was the best bid and 420 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 1: you know, how did the forty Niners great out? Just 421 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: just off of just coming off of this weekend and 422 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: just looking back at what the forty Niners did. Scott, 423 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna start with you and then I'll answer, But 424 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: who would you say was your favorite pick of this draft? 425 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 1: And why I'm gonna go with the sentimental favorite and 426 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: that's I know where we're going. Yeah, I had to 427 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,479 Speaker 1: write a whole story about it that I was so 428 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 1: inspired by a press conference that's pretty rare for me 429 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: that somebody's been around too long and as jaded, but 430 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: nonetheless I came out of that and it was just 431 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: a zoom pressor with usc jack of all trades, safety, linebacker, 432 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: whatever you want to call him, uh Tallnoah Hoofanga, just 433 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: such a passionate, genuine moment for him just you can 434 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: just see the humanity come out, that this really was 435 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 1: a dream come true. He talked about his father living 436 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: on an island where where his family is from, growing 437 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: up with dirt floors, and moving to the United States 438 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 1: and creating an opportunity and playing with his cousins at 439 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 1: USC and getting drafted not first overall. He didn't walk 440 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,959 Speaker 1: across the stage and hug the commissioner. He didn't have 441 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: that moment. He was a fifth round draft pick that 442 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: fans last fifth fIF fifth round draft pick. But you 443 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: could just see how much it meant. The opportunity he 444 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 1: talked about. I mean, everybody loves what what the money 445 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 1: of being an NFL player can afford you and helping 446 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 1: your family and sitting up future generations. But he also said, well, 447 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: that's important. It's about the passion for the game. It's 448 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 1: about the opportunity. It's about playing with pure joy and 449 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: living in the moment and all these types of things. 450 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: And I just kind of sat back there. I was like, Wow, 451 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 1: this guy gets it. And then you hear Kyle Shanahan 452 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: and John Lynch talking and there comparing this guy to 453 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: John Lynch in the way that he can be a 454 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 1: heat seeking missile. He's not afraid to mix it up. Uh. 455 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 1: And those are the types of He's an old school 456 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 1: bad a asterix asterix And you like to hear that 457 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 1: from safety's from guys down in the box. I just 458 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 1: I loved everything about the guy and the presser. And 459 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: then I go back and I read and I do 460 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: research about his career at USC Defensive Player of the 461 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: Year and um, and you can't help but love the 462 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 1: merge and the merger in the marriage of those two things. Ferocious, 463 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 1: get after it, football player, genuine human is. He's going 464 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: to be a very easy guy to root for when 465 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: he puts on that Forts uniform. Oh man, Okay, you 466 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: took my answer only one. I speak for all of us, man, 467 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 1: when I tell you, I couldn't agree more. Um. You know, 468 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: I I have the opportunity and the pleasure to meet 469 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: each guy and meeting lee after they're drafted and get 470 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 1: to just kind of chat with them a little bit 471 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 1: and learn more about them. And I'll be honest. And 472 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 1: I even told John Lynch this, you know, right before 473 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 1: I spoke with John on on I Believe Feel Saturday, 474 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: and I just stopped and I said, John, like I 475 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: know you you look for these football guys, you look 476 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: for these traits on the field, and and so on 477 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 1: and so forth. But I said something about this draft. 478 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 1: You did a phenomenal job of finding great people. And 479 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: I think it goes back to you know, they talk 480 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: about building the right culture and wanting the right guys 481 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: in this locker room, and and they've done that. You know, 482 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: you see some of these names that are available in 483 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: free agency, and forty Night is my not opt to 484 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: go that direction because they have a really great group 485 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: of guys in that locker room, and why would you 486 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 1: want to throw a wrench into that chemistry. But looking 487 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 1: at these guys coming in and getting to know their personalities, 488 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,439 Speaker 1: you know, from what I've meant, and I'm a believer 489 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: that you know, first impressions says a lot about a person. 490 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: But each one of these guys were absolutely phenomenal. They 491 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: were just so excited, they were so hungry, they were 492 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: eager to get into this locker room and start soaking 493 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 1: in some knowledge. But Telenoah is a name that you know, 494 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 1: when I look at all of my conversations, this guy 495 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: just so humble, so passionate, and so hungry and just 496 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 1: so grateful, grateful to even be, you know, a part 497 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 1: of this draft. He doesn't care where he was drafted. 498 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: He's just excited for the opportunity, he said in his 499 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 1: press conference. You know, his goal is to be a 500 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,959 Speaker 1: first year pro bowler on special teams. Guys are eyeing 501 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: special teams. They want that starting role on offense or defense. 502 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 1: They want us jump in and start making plays. But 503 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 1: when you have a guy that's eager to even make 504 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 1: an impact on special teams, that says a lot. You 505 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 1: don't see that often, So you know, that's one of 506 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 1: those guys I think is really really special. I'm excited 507 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: about him. I got to talk to to Aaron Banks, 508 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 1: another guy who's excited to join, Mike McGlinchey, and and 509 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: and the names on the forty niners old line, and 510 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: I could go on on about each and every guy, 511 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 1: but I'm going to turn my attention to the question 512 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 1: you asked me at the top of the show, and 513 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 1: that was, you know, I got to sit down with 514 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 1: Trey Lance, and what did I take away from from 515 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: meeting this kid? How was he? What's his personality like? 516 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 1: And I got some messages on on Instagram and Twitter, 517 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: you know, how is Trey? How is Trey? And let 518 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: me see how I can summarize this. Um, Trey is 519 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: is twenty years old. Uh, he turns twenty one on 520 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 1: May nine. My very first conversation with him was immediately 521 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,360 Speaker 1: after the draft. We did like a little zoom call 522 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: chat and UM, I asked him, you know, how are 523 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: you celebrating tonight? And he said, he's just gonna, you know, 524 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: spend time with his family and friends who are out 525 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: there in Cleveland with him. And I that's when I asked. 526 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: I was like, wait, when's your birthday? And he told 527 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: me and I said, wow, so tonight you can celebrate 528 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: with a capri son because that's at the limit. You 529 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 1: can do nothing else because you're not quite twenty one yet. 530 00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 1: But this kid, and I don't I don't even want 531 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 1: to call him a kid because he is just so mature. 532 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: Sitting down and talking with him, you would never I mean, 533 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 1: when you look at him, he does have the baby face, 534 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 1: But sitting down and talking with him, he does not 535 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: give me a twenty year old. He gives me a 536 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,959 Speaker 1: you know, a guy that's coming into the league. He 537 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: has some experience, he doesn't know at all. But he's 538 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: ready to learn. He's eager to learn. And you know 539 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: the line that stood out is that, you know, he 540 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: understands what he's coming into. He's not walking into this 541 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 1: this locker room like all right, I'm the quarterback, I'm 542 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: running the show. Absolutely not, he said, I'm I'm ready 543 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: to learn from Jimmy Garoppolo. I can't wait to learn 544 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: from Jimmy Garoppolo. You know, I've seen the success that 545 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: he's had in this team, and I know with this 546 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: offense what it entails, and I am so ready to 547 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,239 Speaker 1: kind of take a page from his book and and 548 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 1: see how I can better my game. And that's what 549 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: stood out in my conversations with him. Um a really 550 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 1: humble kid. He has a great family, comes from a 551 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 1: great background. Um this and it goes back to what 552 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 1: I said to John. They did a phenomenal job. Outside 553 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: of talent on the field, the personalities and the people 554 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: they brought into this locker room. Trey Lance fits that 555 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: mold one percent. And I think somebody has made the 556 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: connection to Fred Warner. They said. His demeanor and his 557 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 1: personality confident but not cocky, very confident in himself. Um 558 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: loves the game of football, because when you think of 559 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: Fred Warner, you think of football, uh and Trey Lance 560 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: gives you that same kind of vibe. So I would 561 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 1: say that would be my biggest takeaway from my interaction 562 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: with Trey Lance. But it's got enough of me talking. 563 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 1: When you heard that the forty Niners, you finally got 564 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: that side relief. We've been waiting how many weeks to 565 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: see who the forty Niners traded out to number three? 566 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: To get you hear it's Tray Lance got What was 567 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: your initial impression. I was impressed by a lot of things, 568 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 1: by the guy's talent, by the forty niners ability in 569 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: an era where everybody's trying to get scraps of any 570 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 1: piece of information, antion everybody m after Mac Jones talk 571 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,239 Speaker 1: for weeks and weeks and weeks to come out with 572 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: Trey Lance. There, I thought was a brilliant decision, one 573 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: that now that they've Kyle and John a filled in 574 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: the gaps for us, was part of the motivation for 575 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 1: going up to trade up, for him to get a 576 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 1: full evaluation on on all quarterbacks and be truly confident 577 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: in that decision. Speaking to what you were saying about 578 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: a character and building a proper culture, especially for a 579 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: guy that you're gonna want working with you for ten 580 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: years something like that, a guy who's going to be 581 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: the public face of your franchise. Do you want that 582 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: commanding presence in addition to all those other things. He 583 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: doesn't have to be a good pitch man necessarily, he 584 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 1: has to play good football and he has to command 585 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: the locker room. So when Kyle Shanahan says I think 586 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: he could be a CEO of a company, what he's 587 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: saying is he has command a natural leadership ability. He 588 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 1: offensive and defensive players are like to follow that guy 589 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: from what you're saying, And please go watch the video 590 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: on forty ninders dot com. This interview one great interview 591 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: too beautiful shot in the Stadium is the shot screen, 592 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 1: My goodness, I mean, could not look any better. Um, 593 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: just just a really good piece of content there, and 594 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: definitely go check it out. I was really impressed by it. 595 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: But this is another one of those situations where kind 596 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 1: of like how I was talking about taloa right, is 597 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 1: that you know what the draft analysts say, and you've 598 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: read the profiles and things like that, but when you 599 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 1: get a chance to hear stories and anecdotes that you 600 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: had from the interaction. When the when people start to 601 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 1: interact with this kid, when you start to go deeper 602 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: into the highlights or the or the play that he's 603 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 1: had in the past, you think, Okay, wow, is this 604 00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 1: I used the term transcendent talent in a story on 605 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: forty niners dot Com. We don't know if he's gonna 606 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 1: be the next Pat Mahomes or the next anybody. Comparisons 607 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: always lead you down a path that you don't really 608 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 1: want to go. But I think that the raw materials 609 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 1: for greatness are there and you can't take that away. 610 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 1: And that's all you want when you're picking that hime 611 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: and you're making that type of a trade to get 612 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 1: to a spot to select this player, is you want 613 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 1: the raw materials to build something great. I think it's 614 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: very clear that they have it, and forty Niners fans 615 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: should be happy because how well respected is Kyle Shanahan 616 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 1: as an offensive mind working with quarterbacks. This is one 617 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: of those situations where it could be a great marriage 618 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: if he develops into the player that he's capable of being. 619 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 1: I think that quarterback spot could be very secure for 620 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 1: a long time to come. This podcast is sponsored by Manscaped. 621 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 1: The official below the waste grooming partner of the forty niners. 622 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 1: Try Manscape and get off and free shipping with code 623 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: forty niners at landscaped dot com. That's called forty niners 624 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 1: for twenty percent off at manscape dot com. Yeah, and 625 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,280 Speaker 1: you know, as we're on the topic of Trey Lance, 626 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: you know, we talked about the different positions at the 627 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 1: forty drafted the ones that they didn't an now we're 628 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: at number three overall, and you know, going to a 629 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 1: fan question, Neil Shaw said, do you think Trey will 630 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,799 Speaker 1: be potentially a day one starter or do you see 631 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: him actually waiting behind Jimmy Garoppolo. And I know somebody 632 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 1: tweeted recently that, uh, they said that Trey Lance is 633 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 1: more ready to go and ready to start than a 634 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 1: mac Jones is at this point. Um, I'm not on 635 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 1: the field with them right now, so I wouldn't be 636 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 1: able to tell you I was not a part of 637 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 1: the evaluation process. But what's your thoughts on on his 638 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,320 Speaker 1: progression to the NFL. You know, does he start seeing 639 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 1: they'll snart starting snaps sooner than later? What's your take? 640 00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 1: It's one of those things where if you're in May, 641 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: in June and even into training camp, is he the 642 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 1: week one starter? My first impulse is to say, I 643 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:11,839 Speaker 1: would hope not, because he doesn't need to be with 644 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:16,320 Speaker 1: the warty Niners roster as it is. We talked last week, 645 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 1: healthy Jimmy Garoppolo record, Healthy Jimmy Garoppolo understands the system, 646 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 1: understands the expectations, understands how to be a pro and 647 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 1: deal with everything that comes along with the job. And 648 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: if he's the Week one starter, I think the forts 649 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,240 Speaker 1: and they're faithful, should be really confident in that fact, 650 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 1: and the and the fact that Trey Lance, even if 651 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:44,399 Speaker 1: he's as NFL ready as some analysts say, you want 652 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,840 Speaker 1: to be able to develop outside of the spotlight, especially 653 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,320 Speaker 1: for a guy that's only played one game in fifteen months. 654 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 1: That's not his fault, it's just the North Dakota State 655 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 1: only played one game during the fall. He only played 656 00:35:55,960 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 1: what fifteen games as even as a legion. I don't 657 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,240 Speaker 1: hold me to those numbers, but it's a very small amount, 658 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:05,359 Speaker 1: is what I'm saying. So why not be able to 659 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 1: develop outside of the Sunday scrutiny? Right when? If he 660 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,880 Speaker 1: has a bad game. Then every headline is writing about it, 661 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 1: and every it was this the right pick. They reanalyzed 662 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 1: the trade all the time. It's constantly dissected. If you 663 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 1: look at how the Chiefs did it, and again nobody, 664 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 1: nobody's Pat Mahomes. Okay, I'm not trying to draw that comparison. 665 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,840 Speaker 1: But if you go back to how Andy Reid handled 666 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 1: the situation, one, he had a consummate pro and and 667 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 1: Alex Smith, who understood what was going on. Forty Niners 668 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 1: have a consummate pro in Jimmy Garoppolo who, thanks to 669 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 1: good forward thinking communication from Lynch and Shannon, knows what's 670 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,439 Speaker 1: going on right. He also understands have a great year 671 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 1: lead the forty nagers to the playoffs. Even if you're 672 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 1: not around next year a big contract, be maybe that 673 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 1: your market is pretty good wherever you happen to go. Um, 674 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,240 Speaker 1: So you have the same type of thing Pat Mahomes. 675 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,960 Speaker 1: If I recall all made like a start in a 676 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 1: meaningless game in like week seventeen year and then it 677 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 1: took off. Right, Even a guy like that, he got 678 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 1: the full time to absorb, to breathe, to live without 679 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 1: that pressure. And I think that's a good model, a 680 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 1: good way to go. If in a perfect world, you 681 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,280 Speaker 1: can do that. If it's not a perfect world, or 682 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 1: something else happens and he's forced into duty or he's ready, 683 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,319 Speaker 1: if he's ready for duty, like, that's a good thing. 684 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 1: If he overwhelms you to the point that you have 685 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 1: no choice but to start a great thing. The beauty 686 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 1: of it is they don't have to. Too Often talented 687 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 1: quarterbacks go to terrible situations and flounder because of it. 688 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:47,839 Speaker 1: Trey Lance is a has a great talent walking into 689 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 1: a great situation where he will not he does not 690 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 1: have to be rushed, and whenever he shows up, it's 691 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,800 Speaker 1: gonna have the greatest tight end on planet Earth to 692 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 1: throw to. That helps and the offensive line. I mean, 693 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,239 Speaker 1: great situation, right, I'm not sure how it could get 694 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 1: any better. There's a there's a good reason why Trey 695 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 1: Lance was in such a good mood when you were 696 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,319 Speaker 1: talking to him. Uh, he's walking into a great situation, 697 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 1: into a great locker room culture. Yeah. You look at teams. 698 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,840 Speaker 1: I brought this up a million times, but just reiterating 699 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 1: it again. You look at teams that are picking in 700 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,280 Speaker 1: the top three. Typically they're in the top three because 701 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 1: they did not have a great season. And usually those 702 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 1: teams that are picking that high up, they're still putting 703 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 1: together that roster, they're still finding those pieces. Uh. Trey 704 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,840 Speaker 1: Lance is walking into a situation where just about everything 705 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 1: is laid out for him and ready to go. The 706 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 1: Forts have a roster excuse me, that's ready to compete now. Um. 707 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,360 Speaker 1: But when you look at the overarching picture and you 708 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 1: look at Jimmy Garoppolo and what he's been able to do, 709 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,479 Speaker 1: I don't think you throw him into the fire. You don't, 710 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 1: like you said, you don't have to. Um, you know, 711 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 1: I think you let the season play out as it does, 712 00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 1: and you know when time it's fitting with forty niners 713 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,399 Speaker 1: need to throw in a train, Lance or say it's 714 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,880 Speaker 1: a week as week eight teen, do we have a 715 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,799 Speaker 1: by eight? This is a weird year. I'm so used 716 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 1: to it. But if it's a later, uh game down 717 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,279 Speaker 1: the line, when you know that playoff I'm knocking on 718 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 1: some wood over here, that playoff spot is secured and 719 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 1: you know now you can uh, you can let him 720 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,800 Speaker 1: play and you know nothing's on the line there and 721 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 1: maybe that situation plays out. But talking about Jimmy Jimmy 722 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 1: on Tuesday was making his media rounds. We haven't heard 723 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 1: from him since the clothes. I don't even know if 724 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 1: we talked to him at the close of the year. 725 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:40,399 Speaker 1: Maybe we did. But Jimmy was discussing, uh, you know 726 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 1: what's transpired over the last few weeks, forty Niners going 727 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,880 Speaker 1: after a quarterback and and has he been in the know, 728 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 1: and and he said that, you know, John Lynch has 729 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,440 Speaker 1: been about as transparent as he could be despite not 730 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,880 Speaker 1: knowing who the forty Niners are gonna pick, because as 731 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 1: we know, Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch kept that pretty 732 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,879 Speaker 1: pretty tight between just the two of them and didn't 733 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,120 Speaker 1: let anyone in until literally the day before the draft, 734 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,479 Speaker 1: and some people not even until they picked up the phone. 735 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 1: Like your article says on forty niners dot com. Uh, 736 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 1: it's a phenomenal another shameless plug. Make sure you guys 737 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:12,799 Speaker 1: check that one out. It was a surprise to Tray 738 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 1: Lance and just about everybody in that draft room, but uh, 739 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,280 Speaker 1: kind of keeping their cards close to their chest. Jimmy 740 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 1: knew that they were going to go after a quarterback, 741 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 1: and he said that John Lynch was very transparent with them. 742 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:26,960 Speaker 1: He let it. Let it be known, you know, this 743 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 1: is what's going on, and he let it be known 744 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 1: that you know, you know, availability is the best ability, 745 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 1: and you know you haven't been available for two of 746 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,359 Speaker 1: those three years. But when you are available, you know 747 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 1: we're winning games. So Jimmy understood that. Jimmy's okay with that, 748 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:47,360 Speaker 1: and Jimmy's eager to from what he said in these interviews, 749 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,719 Speaker 1: he's eager to take Tray under his wings, same way 750 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 1: that Tom Brady took Jimmy Garoppolo under his wings when 751 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 1: he was drafted by the Patriots back in if my 752 00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,799 Speaker 1: memory serves me right. But you know, I think one 753 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 1: of the biggest headlines coming off with the draft was 754 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo reaching out to Trey Lance. And I know 755 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,920 Speaker 1: everyone talks about Jimmy doesn't text back cough cough, George Kittle, 756 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 1: But Jimmy taking that initiative to reach out to Trey 757 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:17,759 Speaker 1: Lance right after he's drafted, to congratulate him, welcome to 758 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,520 Speaker 1: him to the team, and be a resource for him, 759 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,000 Speaker 1: I think that says a lot about who Jimmy is. 760 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 1: Remind me again, who broke that news that Jimmy reached 761 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:30,360 Speaker 1: out to Trey Lands first, that was mean a mark 762 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:34,560 Speaker 1: think if I remember correctly, h that was that was 763 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,720 Speaker 1: a great job on draft night. Words spread fast based 764 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,680 Speaker 1: off of that that information, and I think it was 765 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 1: really it was really good information. The fact that happened 766 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 1: so fast, it didn't happen on Saturday or something that 767 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:52,120 Speaker 1: Trey Lance even said or had told. Kyle Shanahan then 768 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 1: reiterated us um that Jimmy was one of the first 769 00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:01,320 Speaker 1: texts that he got that says two words to consummate professional. 770 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:05,040 Speaker 1: That's what you do, and I think that that's what 771 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,880 Speaker 1: you're gonna get. If Trey Lance has a question, Jimmy 772 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,200 Speaker 1: Garoppolos can answer it that it's not going to be 773 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:15,279 Speaker 1: a hostile work environment in that quarterback room. That's positive 774 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:21,120 Speaker 1: for everyone involved. Again, winning helps everyone. It's gonna help 775 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:25,600 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo in his career no matter where that happens 776 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:29,960 Speaker 1: to go in the future. It's gonna help Trey Lance develop, 777 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,880 Speaker 1: It's gonna help Kyle Shanahan. Jimmy is gonna set the 778 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,759 Speaker 1: tone for a good locker room culture. He's always been 779 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:40,800 Speaker 1: well respected there. When you see quotes like what he's saying, 780 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,640 Speaker 1: you know that he what he said on Tuesday that 781 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,600 Speaker 1: he's gonna that he's going to continue to be himself. 782 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 1: He's not gonna let anything change the person or the 783 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,360 Speaker 1: player that he is. Those are the types. That's the 784 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:56,239 Speaker 1: type of mental fortitude that you need in situations and 785 00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,960 Speaker 1: in a profession where a it's a business and be 786 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:03,279 Speaker 1: it is uh very competitive. There's only thirty two of 787 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 1: those jobs. And I think that it's good for everybody 788 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 1: that they're taking this approach again. Jimmy will set the 789 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 1: tone for for the kind of the locker room culture 790 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 1: and the quarterback situation. And then when you get to 791 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,279 Speaker 1: the fall and you start winning and all that stuff disappears, right, 792 00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,800 Speaker 1: he gives them a great chance to win. Jimmy doing 793 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:26,160 Speaker 1: what he did on Draft weekend helps immensely. And it 794 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,680 Speaker 1: all goes back to what John Lynch said on Saturday 795 00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:34,120 Speaker 1: is that you need to communicate before it happens. The 796 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:38,760 Speaker 1: proactive approach there was the first domino to keep everything 797 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,880 Speaker 1: going in line. If you've decided that you're going to 798 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:46,120 Speaker 1: take a quarterback, you have a well compensated, accomplished one 799 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,799 Speaker 1: who's won an NFC title game and been to a 800 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:53,320 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. How do you, uh, it's about being forthright, 801 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,560 Speaker 1: it's about being respectful. And when that first, the good 802 00:43:56,600 --> 00:44:00,960 Speaker 1: proactive communication happens and you have good people that are 803 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,479 Speaker 1: listening to the information that they may not want to hear. 804 00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:08,360 Speaker 1: That's how that's how you can keep that thing going 805 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:13,040 Speaker 1: as opposed to creating hostility or animosity that I think 806 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,319 Speaker 1: all those things are positive things. And you talk about 807 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,360 Speaker 1: culture coming from the top. You want to give the 808 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:22,560 Speaker 1: forty Niners, Jimmy Garoppolo and Trey Lance the best possible 809 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,759 Speaker 1: chance to succeed now and in the future. That's how 810 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,839 Speaker 1: it was set up and that can't be ignored. Um. 811 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:30,640 Speaker 1: When I saw your tweet on Thursday, I was like, 812 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,359 Speaker 1: that's the exact right thing to do. I'm sure he's 813 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,759 Speaker 1: not thrilled there's a new quarterback in the room, but 814 00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,319 Speaker 1: that's how you address it, by being a pro, by 815 00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,360 Speaker 1: being stand up, and by earning respect from this locker 816 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,040 Speaker 1: room and every other GM that's watching every move that 817 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,480 Speaker 1: you make. That's a really good point. You made fantastic 818 00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:51,320 Speaker 1: point right there. The only thing I have to say 819 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,319 Speaker 1: after that is training camp is going to be fun. Yes, 820 00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,200 Speaker 1: camp is going to be a lot of fun. We 821 00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,960 Speaker 1: we talk about those running backs and then that massive 822 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:06,040 Speaker 1: stardine can of running backs that the forty Niners have. Uh, 823 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:07,960 Speaker 1: that's gonna be fun to watch that play out. It's 824 00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,440 Speaker 1: gonna be fun watching Trey Lance and Jimmy Garoppolo. What 825 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:15,719 Speaker 1: Trey kind of graphs from from the quarterback and and 826 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:21,279 Speaker 1: how he starts developing and grasping Kyle Shanahan's offense, and 827 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,759 Speaker 1: and the number of other positions. Cornerback, Um, we talk 828 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,480 Speaker 1: about a safety and where he might fit even as 829 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,239 Speaker 1: a special teamer, and and the old line you know 830 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,400 Speaker 1: that will there be a competition with we had we 831 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,480 Speaker 1: talked about Daniel Brunskill and now we've got Aaron Banks. 832 00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,280 Speaker 1: Will that be a competition for that right guard position? 833 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,560 Speaker 1: So that's gonna be a lot of fun just watching 834 00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,000 Speaker 1: all of these play out. But the rookies will be 835 00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,640 Speaker 1: making their way to Santa Clara to be all in 836 00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,920 Speaker 1: one location, I believe next week at some point. And 837 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:54,160 Speaker 1: then we're we're working our way through the off season program, 838 00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,920 Speaker 1: hitting those O t A s. So things are are 839 00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,799 Speaker 1: finally happening. Things are moving. I feel like it's been 840 00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:03,400 Speaker 1: the longest offseason ever. No thanks to Kyle Shanahan and 841 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,400 Speaker 1: John Lynch having us weight on pins and needles, waiting 842 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,399 Speaker 1: for which quarterback they were going to take. But now 843 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:12,239 Speaker 1: things are progressing training camp later on this summer. I'm excited, 844 00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:16,839 Speaker 1: uh for what's to come, Scott, you sound pretty thrilled. Yeah, man, 845 00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,480 Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm pumped. This is one of those teams 846 00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:23,200 Speaker 1: that could really We said it before the draft, right, 847 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,960 Speaker 1: you think, Okay, they had a rough year with the injuries, 848 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,800 Speaker 1: so they can get healthy, stay that way. They drafted 849 00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,480 Speaker 1: for death, have great starting lineup. I mean, there's no 850 00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:36,200 Speaker 1: reason why they can't get back to levels levels if 851 00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:40,200 Speaker 1: we recall, we're pretty freaking high. Yeah, they're really, really 852 00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:44,479 Speaker 1: good and hopefully surpassing those levels. You know, this team 853 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,240 Speaker 1: has one thing and one thing only on its mind, 854 00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:48,879 Speaker 1: and that's redemption. And now it's the what did they 855 00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:50,680 Speaker 1: call it, the Revenge Tour? So now this is the 856 00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:54,600 Speaker 1: Revenge Tour two point oh. So we'll see how this 857 00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,080 Speaker 1: year shakes out. Super excited. You're getting your guys like 858 00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,760 Speaker 1: Nick Bolsa back, and you know we talked about potentially 859 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:01,880 Speaker 1: some the wide receiver, so lots to look forward to 860 00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:06,319 Speaker 1: and forty Niners land. But with that, Scott, we appreciate 861 00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,560 Speaker 1: having you on the podcast. We appreciate just all of 862 00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,080 Speaker 1: the content you have brought to forty niners dot com 863 00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,200 Speaker 1: and for everybody listening at kid you not. I'm not 864 00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:18,920 Speaker 1: just saying this, um, but definitely check out what Scott 865 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:22,400 Speaker 1: added to forty niners dot com. Some an amazing insight 866 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:27,200 Speaker 1: breaking down you know, Jimmy Garoppolo and and his relationship 867 00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:30,960 Speaker 1: with Trey Lands, to talking about Taloa and being drafted 868 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,800 Speaker 1: by the forty Niners, how each draft pick fits with 869 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:37,560 Speaker 1: the forty Niners. Another topic that's on forty niners dot com, uh, 870 00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:41,000 Speaker 1: snapping that eighteen year streak of drafting or receiver. There's 871 00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:45,080 Speaker 1: so much great content, uh, courtesy of Scott, So please 872 00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,680 Speaker 1: please check that out. Honestly, some of the my favorite 873 00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:49,600 Speaker 1: things I have read in a very long time. And 874 00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:51,680 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that because I'm biased because I'm here 875 00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,760 Speaker 1: with the forty Niners, but some great insight there, especially 876 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,279 Speaker 1: draft stories and getting to know some of these guys. 877 00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,480 Speaker 1: So with that, Scott, I'm gonna let you out of 878 00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,080 Speaker 1: here because I can talk your ear off forever. Um, 879 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,400 Speaker 1: But I appreciate having you. This has been tons of 880 00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,360 Speaker 1: fun and we've got to get you back in this building. 881 00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,760 Speaker 1: Is that? Okay? Absolutely? Man. I had an absolute blast 882 00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,440 Speaker 1: this week. It's been a real honor working with you 883 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:16,000 Speaker 1: and can't wait to do it again. Let's do this again. 884 00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,960 Speaker 1: Enjoy getting a week off from while the draft craziness. Okay, 885 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,319 Speaker 1: it was a wild one, that's for sure.