1
00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:15,560
Speaker 1: It's out of control. It's a little bit out of control.

2
00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:17,760
Speaker 2: I make a comment today just to give you an

3
00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:20,040
Speaker 2: idea of how out of control it is. About what

4
00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:22,880
Speaker 2: was it, Jesse and Colin, like Penn State versus Indiana

5
00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,600
Speaker 2: or something like that. Someone called me an sec shill

6
00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:28,720
Speaker 2: guys at some point. Look, if you're gonna throw out

7
00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,000
Speaker 2: the hate labels, at least make sure I'm talking about

8
00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:32,519
Speaker 2: the thing that you're labeling.

9
00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,360
Speaker 1: We are jam packed. We're in Tempe, Arizona.

10
00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:38,599
Speaker 2: By the way, Arizona State just gives us the entirety

11
00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,880
Speaker 2: of Sun Devil Stadium. The Pope had mass here before,

12
00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,520
Speaker 2: they had a Super Bowl here, and now our show

13
00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:46,680
Speaker 2: emanates from here at the Big Three, as we call

14
00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,360
Speaker 2: it in the entertainment business. Thursday night, November twenty first

15
00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,120
Speaker 2: Hear of Our Lord twenty twenty four, proudly brought to

16
00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:55,760
Speaker 2: you by Academy Sports and Outdoors. I've got upset alerts

17
00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:59,600
Speaker 2: in my hand, and there are at least two games

18
00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,960
Speaker 2: that should be getting primetime treatment that are not getting

19
00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:06,080
Speaker 2: primetime treatment, and the spreads are under three like it

20
00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,040
Speaker 2: wouldn't even be an upset, and I don't think anyone's

21
00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,200
Speaker 2: ready for it. Shark fins just offshore of college football.

22
00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,959
Speaker 2: I've got the playoff debates. Some of them should be,

23
00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,400
Speaker 2: some of them shouldn't be. I'm going to talk about them.

24
00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,440
Speaker 2: I just think someone's going down this weekend and may

25
00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,040
Speaker 2: not even be in the playoff debate as it unfolds

26
00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:25,800
Speaker 2: in a couple of weeks. Kenny Dillingham is going to

27
00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:29,399
Speaker 2: join the show. We recorded it less than an hour ago.

28
00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:33,240
Speaker 2: So nothing's changed in college football in the last hour, right, Well,

29
00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,840
Speaker 2: something's changed down at LSU as it relates to Michigan,

30
00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:37,920
Speaker 2: but that has nothing to do with Arizona State. I'm

31
00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,880
Speaker 2: gonna talk about all that and then some in this show.

32
00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,360
Speaker 2: Live is Live Can Be. You can hear the jets

33
00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,360
Speaker 2: taken off from Sky Harbor just to our west.

34
00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:46,600
Speaker 1: Here.

35
00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,320
Speaker 2: It is picture perfect out here. How do people choose

36
00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,000
Speaker 2: to live elsewhere? It's shirt sleeve weather and the sun's

37
00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,480
Speaker 2: already down. They're watching us in Jacksonville, Florida, Charleston, West Virginia,

38
00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,920
Speaker 2: Spanish Fort, Alabama, and Palm Springs, California.

39
00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:04,480
Speaker 1: Okay, here we go, slightest of breezes in the air.

40
00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,560
Speaker 2: My hair is gonna be fine. I don't know if

41
00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,679
Speaker 2: everyone's teams are going to be fine this weekend though.

42
00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:11,960
Speaker 2: Upset alerts is how I always like to lead off

43
00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,040
Speaker 2: the Thursday show. I like to give you just the

44
00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,560
Speaker 2: old gut feeling. Forgot about the model, just the old

45
00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,520
Speaker 2: gut feeling. How are we feeling about this? So I

46
00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,760
Speaker 2: want to ask you, Texas A and M, how we

47
00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,520
Speaker 2: feeling you? Guys are playing Texas right, No you're not.

48
00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,400
Speaker 2: You're playing Auburn this week. So at Texas A and

49
00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,440
Speaker 2: M's a playoff contender, Auburn's terrible. What's the line on that?

50
00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,480
Speaker 2: Josh ten twelve fourteen, two and a half. Texas A

51
00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,160
Speaker 2: and M's a two and a half point favorite. I

52
00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,000
Speaker 2: have got an upset Alert concern Meter rating of nine

53
00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,560
Speaker 2: on this game, Marcel Reid. Big test for him, because

54
00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:44,680
Speaker 2: I got to be honest with you. Auburn, not only

55
00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,160
Speaker 2: do they have a great home field advantage, not only

56
00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,600
Speaker 2: do they have the whole let's package this up as

57
00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,919
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl thing. Like Hugh Freeze needs one signature

58
00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,359
Speaker 2: win this year, right, Yeah, I don't know if he'll

59
00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,160
Speaker 2: get it, but he needs it. But not only that,

60
00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:58,040
Speaker 2: they match.

61
00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,280
Speaker 1: Up pretty well with Texas A and M. What does

62
00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:01,120
Speaker 1: Texas A and M have to do.

63
00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,160
Speaker 2: They got to run the ball. And what does Auburn

64
00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,200
Speaker 2: do well, they're top fifteen and stopping the run. Auburn's

65
00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,760
Speaker 2: offense also, like really really on the lowest of keys

66
00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:11,040
Speaker 2: is not bad.

67
00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,160
Speaker 1: The team's not bad if.

68
00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,919
Speaker 2: Like, don't yell yet, because I said if, if they

69
00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,280
Speaker 2: don't have the self inflicted stuff, which they've had like

70
00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:23,320
Speaker 2: every game. But the thing I always caution you about

71
00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,639
Speaker 2: late in the year with these talented teams that are

72
00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:30,800
Speaker 2: just bad, is any given Saturday, they can just not

73
00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:34,240
Speaker 2: turn the ball over any given Saturday. They cannot have

74
00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,600
Speaker 2: the self inflicted wounds. That's not going to change the

75
00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:38,840
Speaker 2: fact that they've been a bad team all year. But

76
00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,520
Speaker 2: if A and M plays Auburn Saturday and Auburn doesn't

77
00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,360
Speaker 2: turn the ball over, if they're half decent inside the

78
00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,000
Speaker 2: red zone, Auburn can beat them by double digits. Because

79
00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,400
Speaker 2: Auburn has I'm looking at it right now, a top

80
00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:53,040
Speaker 2: twenty five talent roster, which is the difference in an

81
00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,440
Speaker 2: untalented team that is you know, four and six is

82
00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,520
Speaker 2: just bad. A talented team that's four and six is bad.

83
00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:01,600
Speaker 2: They're going to go to the playoff or anything. But

84
00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:05,120
Speaker 2: they can bite you and humiliate you on a given Saturday.

85
00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,520
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna put a nine on that one. There's

86
00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:12,920
Speaker 2: another one happening in Kansas City featuring Colorado and Kansas,

87
00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,520
Speaker 2: and there's a lot of talk. There's a lot of

88
00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:17,960
Speaker 2: talk about a commitment for Dion in Colorado that I'll

89
00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,120
Speaker 2: get to later in the show. But there's also talk

90
00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,200
Speaker 2: about playoff, and I'm concerned about it now because it's

91
00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:23,880
Speaker 2: not warranted.

92
00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:25,279
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, it's warranted.

93
00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,960
Speaker 2: I'm just concerned that people don't realize Colorado's two and

94
00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,839
Speaker 2: a half point favorite in this game. This Kansas team

95
00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,279
Speaker 2: reminds me of Florida. Both of them are sub five hundred.

96
00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,560
Speaker 2: I think both of them are playing at a top

97
00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:42,200
Speaker 2: twenty five level right now, which, again I cannot stress

98
00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,839
Speaker 2: this clearly enough, does not mean I think they should

99
00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:48,599
Speaker 2: be in consideration for anything. I am strictly referring to

100
00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,880
Speaker 2: the level of play they're turning in right now, which means,

101
00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,479
Speaker 2: if you're Colorado, you better gear up to face what

102
00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,760
Speaker 2: feels like a top twenty five opponent on the road Saturday.

103
00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,800
Speaker 2: Now that's the bad news. Kind of the good news

104
00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,159
Speaker 2: is I think Colorado matches up with Kansas fairly well.

105
00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:08,280
Speaker 2: Kansas eighty first against the pass. Also, when it comes

106
00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,960
Speaker 2: to Colorado stopping the run, which Kansas really needs to do,

107
00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:14,800
Speaker 2: Colorado held you taught of thirty one yards on the

108
00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,760
Speaker 2: ground last week, like that was a surprising number they

109
00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:19,560
Speaker 2: turned in. That's not something I think most people would

110
00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,640
Speaker 2: have expected. So I've got a seven on the upset

111
00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:26,120
Speaker 2: alert concern scale only because I really respect what Lipeol's

112
00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:27,000
Speaker 2: getting out of those guys.

113
00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:28,640
Speaker 1: Jalen Daniels has been a lot better.

114
00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:30,839
Speaker 2: But if I can make him throw the ball to

115
00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:34,320
Speaker 2: beat me and I'm Colorado, I can live with the results.

116
00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:36,760
Speaker 2: And I think I'm gonna have success against them through

117
00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,120
Speaker 2: the air, so I can live with those results. But still,

118
00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:40,840
Speaker 2: this is a game. You got to keep your eye

119
00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,920
Speaker 2: on people. Keep your eye on it. Penn State. No

120
00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:48,719
Speaker 2: one's talking about it. I'm listen. I'm concerned. Three taps

121
00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:54,400
Speaker 2: for concern there. I'm concerned that everyone is just assuming

122
00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,680
Speaker 2: that Penn State's locked into this home playoff spot. They

123
00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:01,039
Speaker 2: replaced the side Jesse all the way back in Nashville.

124
00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,400
Speaker 2: You're like five states away from me. You know that

125
00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,279
Speaker 2: you guys put new side into Beaver Stadium. And you know,

126
00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:07,920
Speaker 2: good and well, you're not just doing that for one

127
00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:09,480
Speaker 2: more game. You're doing that because you think you've got

128
00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,360
Speaker 2: a home playoff game coming, and it's better. It's better

129
00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,600
Speaker 2: to be prepared than sorry, As Mema would always say.

130
00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,600
Speaker 2: Mema also said, don't show pictures of yourself residing your

131
00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,160
Speaker 2: stadium when you still got games to go.

132
00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:19,960
Speaker 1: Penn State.

133
00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:22,520
Speaker 2: She said that, by the way, Penn State an eleven

134
00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:26,000
Speaker 2: and a half point favorite on the road at wait

135
00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:30,560
Speaker 2: for it, wait for it, Minnesota. Now, what's Minnesota? Josh?

136
00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,800
Speaker 2: They're six and four? Huh?

137
00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:34,599
Speaker 1: What? Well?

138
00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,520
Speaker 2: If I were to do nothing more then go back

139
00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,440
Speaker 2: in history and have them make a field goal against

140
00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:44,200
Speaker 2: North Carolina and have that on side kick not overturned

141
00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,840
Speaker 2: against Michigan, this is an eight and two team that's

142
00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:50,479
Speaker 2: in the playoff mix. That doesn't mean anything other than

143
00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,840
Speaker 2: it is reasonable to expect an eight and two caliber

144
00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:59,160
Speaker 2: performance like a top twenty five caliber performance from Minnesota Saturday.

145
00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,800
Speaker 2: Also a big scheduling, dynamic situation on our hands here,

146
00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,920
Speaker 2: which we seem to keep running into in the Big Ten.

147
00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,960
Speaker 2: But I digress. Penn State's playing their fifth straight game.

148
00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,840
Speaker 2: It's the second leg of back to back road games

149
00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,280
Speaker 2: for Penn State. Guess what Minnesota did last week? They

150
00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,640
Speaker 2: sat at home. They did nothing. They're off a bye.

151
00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:21,800
Speaker 2: So Oregon ran into one of those scheduling dynamic disadvantages

152
00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,560
Speaker 2: at Wisconsin and got out with a win. Could this

153
00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,680
Speaker 2: Penn State game look like that? I am concerned. I've

154
00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,120
Speaker 2: got a seven and a half on it. Minnesota is

155
00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,240
Speaker 2: the second best defense I think that Penn State will

156
00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:37,480
Speaker 2: effaced this year, behind only Ohio State. Now, Penn State

157
00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,160
Speaker 2: can do one of two things. They can mess around

158
00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,880
Speaker 2: and get themselves in quicksand and if they do, they

159
00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,120
Speaker 2: could either lose this game, or it could be bowling

160
00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,920
Speaker 2: shoe ugly, as Jim Ross would say, and they barely

161
00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,760
Speaker 2: escape with a win. Or they could do what they

162
00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:52,800
Speaker 2: found ways to do a little bit more lately, and

163
00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,360
Speaker 2: let's get off to a fast start, which I mean,

164
00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,520
Speaker 2: based on their style of play was once thought to

165
00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,720
Speaker 2: be illegal in Penn State circles. But yes it is okay.

166
00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,320
Speaker 2: They do allow you to start fast. They allow you

167
00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,040
Speaker 2: to feed Tyler Warren the ball. But with the pair

168
00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,640
Speaker 2: of safeties that Minnesota has, I wonder is it gonna

169
00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:12,560
Speaker 2: have to be more than just Tyler Warren and Let's

170
00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:14,800
Speaker 2: be real, man. If Penn State's gonna do anything, even

171
00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:16,760
Speaker 2: if they get past this game, yeah, it's gonna have

172
00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,160
Speaker 2: to be more than Tyler Warren. I'm not taking this

173
00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,400
Speaker 2: game for granted. Eleven and a half point road favorite.

174
00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:22,880
Speaker 2: I got a seven and a half on the upset

175
00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,520
Speaker 2: Alert Concern meter Kentucky at Texas.

176
00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:27,840
Speaker 1: No.

177
00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:32,200
Speaker 2: Also, I need to clarify something. Just because you're in

178
00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,040
Speaker 2: this segment on the Thursday Show does not mean I'm

179
00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,600
Speaker 2: picking you to be upset. I ran into this with

180
00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:41,520
Speaker 2: Notre Dame Voks last week. You picked Virginia to upset

181
00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:42,000
Speaker 2: Notre Dame.

182
00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:42,680
Speaker 1: No, I didn't.

183
00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you did show me the proof and they screenshat,

184
00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,800
Speaker 2: which is the past tense of screenshot this segment. No

185
00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:53,280
Speaker 2: one's picking Virginia to beat Notre Dame last week. In fact,

186
00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:55,360
Speaker 2: I did the entire thing to show you that I

187
00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,120
Speaker 2: didn't expect Virginia to win. I expected them to cover,

188
00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:00,679
Speaker 2: which they did. Kentucky, I don't even know if they're

189
00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,440
Speaker 2: going to cover here. Here's what I'll say. I've got

190
00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:07,440
Speaker 2: a three on the upset alert concern scale only because

191
00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,120
Speaker 2: Texas could be looking ahead to A and M a

192
00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:12,600
Speaker 2: little bit and also because Kentucky is like dog water

193
00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,960
Speaker 2: awful this year, except that they beat Ole miss outright,

194
00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:20,320
Speaker 2: They lost to Tennessee by seven, and they lost to

195
00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:24,160
Speaker 2: Georgia by one, And it's like no one even remembers

196
00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:28,160
Speaker 2: that Kentucky has played three top ten teams, beat one

197
00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,680
Speaker 2: of them and lost to the other two by seven

198
00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:34,000
Speaker 2: and one. So what are they going to do in Austin?

199
00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:35,960
Speaker 2: Are they out of gas? They may very well be.

200
00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,839
Speaker 2: It's another week where I guarantee I'll find myself watching

201
00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:42,640
Speaker 2: Quinn e Weers watching this Texas offense and thinking, come on.

202
00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,560
Speaker 1: Do something, come on, take over like they did.

203
00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:47,719
Speaker 2: It against Florida. But Florida was never going to be

204
00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,160
Speaker 2: in that game because Lagway was out. Maybe Kentucky won't

205
00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,920
Speaker 2: be in this game. But they're the kind of dual

206
00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:57,040
Speaker 2: themes going on with Texas right now. You go to Arkansas,

207
00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,520
Speaker 2: you play Kentucky like, first and foremost, you need to

208
00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:03,560
Speaker 2: win the game, but also you want to show something

209
00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:07,120
Speaker 2: that you could reasonably see copying and pasting into a

210
00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,760
Speaker 2: bigger game, maybe against A and M, maybe in Atlanta,

211
00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:13,760
Speaker 2: maybe in a playoff situation. Notre Dame against Army. We

212
00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:15,920
Speaker 2: didn't talk about this Tuesday, because I wanted to wait

213
00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:17,160
Speaker 2: until the Thursday show.

214
00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:18,640
Speaker 1: A five.

215
00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,000
Speaker 2: That's what I'm putting on the upset Alert concern meter,

216
00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,440
Speaker 2: A five. Notre Dame's favored by fourteen and a half.

217
00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:30,600
Speaker 2: This game is in Yankee Stadium. Army needs early scorers

218
00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:34,400
Speaker 2: in this game. Army has not faced anything of note

219
00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,679
Speaker 2: in terms of strength of schedule, which is okay, but

220
00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:39,600
Speaker 2: that means when you got the number three run defense

221
00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,360
Speaker 2: in the country, I'm still going to have to see it.

222
00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:42,440
Speaker 1: That's all that means.

223
00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:46,680
Speaker 2: Northern Illinois did it, man Like, Northern Illinois ground a

224
00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,720
Speaker 2: game to a halt against Notre Dame and they won it.

225
00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,640
Speaker 2: The thing about that is everybody knows that happened. Notre

226
00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:57,120
Speaker 2: Dame knows that happen. Marcus Freeman knows that happen, and

227
00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,840
Speaker 2: so because of that, I just don't know that happens twice.

228
00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,640
Speaker 2: Kenny Chesney once sung a song in that vein, and

229
00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,079
Speaker 2: I just don't think this happens twice. I'm putting a

230
00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:11,640
Speaker 2: five on it because I respect the United States Army,

231
00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:14,559
Speaker 2: but I do not think they get this done. If

232
00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:16,960
Speaker 2: they do, you know what, I'll lead the show with it.

233
00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:17,520
Speaker 1: Sunday night.

234
00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,440
Speaker 2: If they do, I don't expect it to happen. You

235
00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:24,480
Speaker 2: know what Mema said about expectations, don't you. Well, I

236
00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:25,720
Speaker 2: hope you did, because I don't.

237
00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:27,959
Speaker 1: Oh, I will itch on the ankle. Okay.

238
00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,360
Speaker 2: Academy Sports and Outdoors brings us the entire show. They

239
00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,040
Speaker 2: bring you the entire show. They make it free of charge.

240
00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,880
Speaker 2: Gelby right now is just wandering around behind the equipment

241
00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,520
Speaker 2: taking all kinds of pictures. We're on the road because

242
00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,800
Speaker 2: Academy allows us to be, and they allow you to

243
00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:47,240
Speaker 2: take care of all your Christmas shopping. Some people have

244
00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:52,240
Speaker 2: birthdays in December as well as Christmas, and I don't

245
00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,560
Speaker 2: want to name names, but if you want to shop

246
00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:57,760
Speaker 2: for said person, Academy Sports and Outdoors is probably where

247
00:11:57,800 --> 00:11:59,480
Speaker 2: you can do it. And I know a lot of

248
00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:02,880
Speaker 2: you do not have an Academy in your backyard. That's

249
00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,640
Speaker 2: okay because you do have the Internet. Otherwise you wouldn't

250
00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:07,400
Speaker 2: be able to watch or listen to the show. So

251
00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:09,560
Speaker 2: you can go to Academy dot com and they take

252
00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:13,120
Speaker 2: care of you. And like I always say, unlike some

253
00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,360
Speaker 2: places where you kind of got to hold your nose

254
00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:20,520
Speaker 2: and patronize the sponsor just because you love the show.

255
00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,880
Speaker 2: Some of you do that, and I appreciate that we

256
00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,840
Speaker 2: don't have partners like that on this show. These are

257
00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,360
Speaker 2: places that have spots in your lives, whether this show

258
00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,959
Speaker 2: exists or not. They just happen to roll with the

259
00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,680
Speaker 2: show and make it free for you, and we appreciate.

260
00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:33,960
Speaker 1: It all right.

261
00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:38,880
Speaker 2: Had a whole lot of people the other night who

262
00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:44,160
Speaker 2: got mad after the playoff selection stuff happened on Tuesday,

263
00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,920
Speaker 2: and then I had our show and I didn't mention something.

264
00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:52,840
Speaker 2: So yes, I'm going to go down this road. College

265
00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,320
Speaker 2: football playoff rankings keep coming out. There's a whole lot

266
00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,600
Speaker 2: of debate out there, and I just wanted to address

267
00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:02,000
Speaker 2: some of this stuff. Like the other night, ESPN has

268
00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,920
Speaker 2: the rankings release, and then you have Booker McFarland there,

269
00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,640
Speaker 2: and McElroy's there, and Rhys Davis is there, Joey Galloway's

270
00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:10,640
Speaker 2: there in studio and they're just you know, they're tossing

271
00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,200
Speaker 2: around their thoughts. No different than you would, no different

272
00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,840
Speaker 2: than I would. And the thing about the playoff rankings

273
00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,400
Speaker 2: is everyone wants to have a unique thought, everyone wants

274
00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,520
Speaker 2: to have a unique angle, and sometimes you hit and

275
00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,920
Speaker 2: sometimes you miss. I got nothing against Joey Galloway. Don't

276
00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:26,760
Speaker 2: know him personally, he got nothing against him, not going

277
00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:28,240
Speaker 2: to take a shot at his character or call him

278
00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,439
Speaker 2: an idiot or anything like that. But he said something

279
00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,960
Speaker 2: the other night that I took great issue with. I

280
00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,480
Speaker 2: think most of you heard it. If you didn't hear it,

281
00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:37,240
Speaker 2: let me save you the time of looking it up.

282
00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,920
Speaker 2: He suggested that because Indiana was in the spot they

283
00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:44,720
Speaker 2: were in, and because the ESPN whatever in the world

284
00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,559
Speaker 2: they call it, prediction machine says that even if Indiana

285
00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:52,280
Speaker 2: loses this Saturday, they still stand a very high percentage

286
00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:56,560
Speaker 2: chance of being in the playoff. Joey Galloway said, well,

287
00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,359
Speaker 2: if I were them, I would think about sitting my quarterback.

288
00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,000
Speaker 2: We remember what happened to Florida State last year. Remember

289
00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,160
Speaker 2: Jordan Travis got hurt and the committee said, even though

290
00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:09,800
Speaker 2: you're undefeated, you're going to be out. So on the

291
00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:13,400
Speaker 2: sheer basis of logic, if one didn't know anything else

292
00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:16,959
Speaker 2: about college football, one could listen to that and say, well,

293
00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,560
Speaker 2: you know, technically, he's right. Who cares if you lose

294
00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:21,880
Speaker 2: this game this Saturday? Who cares if you go to

295
00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:23,880
Speaker 2: the Big Ten championship game, which is on the line

296
00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,360
Speaker 2: this Saturday. If Indy wins, they go to the Big

297
00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,720
Speaker 2: Ten title game. Ironically, in Indy.

298
00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:29,920
Speaker 1: Who cares about all that?

299
00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:31,600
Speaker 2: You know, if the percentage just say you're going to

300
00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:33,280
Speaker 2: make the playoffs, just sit your quarterback.

301
00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:34,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.

302
00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:38,160
Speaker 2: To a professional billiards player who has never had passion

303
00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,480
Speaker 2: for college football, has no love of the game, has

304
00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,520
Speaker 2: no appreciation for competition or tradition or whatnot, that would

305
00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:47,400
Speaker 2: make sense. Joey Galloway is not that. Joey Galloway's played

306
00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:50,080
Speaker 2: this game at the highest level, so he ought to

307
00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,760
Speaker 2: know better. I got what he was saying. I could

308
00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,160
Speaker 2: not disagree with it. I could not disagree with the

309
00:14:56,200 --> 00:15:01,560
Speaker 2: sentiment of it. Rather anymore so, Firstly, if Indiana wins Saturday,

310
00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,160
Speaker 2: which they very well could do, they go to the

311
00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:07,320
Speaker 2: Big Ten title game Like that's it, They're done.

312
00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,320
Speaker 1: They go. So that's the first thing that's on the line.

313
00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,680
Speaker 2: But dude, I don't want to play that.

314
00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:14,680
Speaker 1: I told you so game.

315
00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,280
Speaker 2: I promised you guys when this thing expanded, I was

316
00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,600
Speaker 2: done with it. I'll ride with it. I don't like it.

317
00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:24,520
Speaker 2: But did we not talk about this? Did I not

318
00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,480
Speaker 2: tell you and get laughed at by the way that

319
00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,800
Speaker 2: if we expanded this thing, it would not take long

320
00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:34,680
Speaker 2: before resting starters was a topic. And I'm going to

321
00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,000
Speaker 2: take you back about ten years really quick, a little

322
00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:41,080
Speaker 2: over ten years now. Remember when the playoff was first invented.

323
00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:43,800
Speaker 2: We went from the BCS era to the four team playoff,

324
00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,880
Speaker 2: and everyone made everything about the playoff.

325
00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:49,400
Speaker 1: Who's in? That was the.

326
00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:53,120
Speaker 2: Marketing campaign for ESPN, and they did that because they

327
00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:56,920
Speaker 2: had purchased the rights to this thing that was the playoff,

328
00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,480
Speaker 2: and they wanted to market it, and so they did.

329
00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:01,400
Speaker 2: And boy, why did they market it? Like a fire

330
00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:04,040
Speaker 2: hose to your face? Every week they marketed it. And

331
00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:08,320
Speaker 2: what happened was in the aggregate, they marketed the playoff

332
00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:13,880
Speaker 2: at the expense of valuing the regular season. That's not

333
00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:15,440
Speaker 2: to say they ignored the regular season.

334
00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,320
Speaker 1: But you remember this. It wasn't that long ago.

335
00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:23,040
Speaker 2: Week two, random Thursday night game, coming out of a

336
00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:26,120
Speaker 2: commercial break. It's third and short in Boston College is

337
00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,080
Speaker 2: trying to convert against North Carolina, and I got the

338
00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:33,200
Speaker 2: announcers talking about who's in and advertising the college football

339
00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,080
Speaker 2: Playoff and it was just everything at the expense of

340
00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:37,440
Speaker 2: the college football Playoff.

341
00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:40,680
Speaker 1: Well, then slowly you remember what happened.

342
00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:45,200
Speaker 2: What happened was people started inventing phrases like meaningless game.

343
00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:48,160
Speaker 2: You know, because once you're not in the playoff race anymore,

344
00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,680
Speaker 2: what does your game really mean? And then they started

345
00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:54,840
Speaker 2: saying things like meaningless Bowl game. Kids didn't say that,

346
00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,560
Speaker 2: the players didn't say that. Adults in the room said it,

347
00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:01,640
Speaker 2: and the kids had the audio to listen to the adults.

348
00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:04,840
Speaker 2: The players listened to the adults. And after a while,

349
00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,560
Speaker 2: you know, your Leonard Fournettes are looking around saying, these

350
00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:11,400
Speaker 2: folks keep calling these bowl games meaningless, and I got

351
00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:15,760
Speaker 2: NFL draft consideration to weigh, and I'm playing at LSU

352
00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,200
Speaker 2: and we're not in the playoff. I'm going to sit

353
00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,720
Speaker 2: out the meaningless Bowl game. And everyone gets all pissed

354
00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,879
Speaker 2: off at Leonard Fournette. And I'm looking around saying, but

355
00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,400
Speaker 2: Leonard Fournette's not the one who called it meaningless. He's

356
00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,800
Speaker 2: just listening to people call it meaningless. Well, now we

357
00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,879
Speaker 2: fast forward ten years, and what do we have. We

358
00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,760
Speaker 2: got an expanded playoff, you know, so all these games

359
00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,320
Speaker 2: will have max importance, and Josh, it won't take away

360
00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,200
Speaker 2: from the value of regular season games. In fact, it'll

361
00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,520
Speaker 2: add more importance to more games. It took less than

362
00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:47,560
Speaker 2: one year for someone to go on national television and

363
00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:51,600
Speaker 2: suggests that a top ten team should rest their starting quarterback.

364
00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:54,920
Speaker 1: Let's be careful how we talk about this stuff. Please.

365
00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:58,439
Speaker 2: Next up, I've got, you know, the forever claim of

366
00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,080
Speaker 2: SEC bias, which I did a lot on the other night,

367
00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:02,439
Speaker 2: So I'm not going to talk about it a whole lot.

368
00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:04,520
Speaker 2: I just wanted to point out there's a lot of

369
00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,280
Speaker 2: incongruent logic here. I've been on a lot of radio hits,

370
00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,359
Speaker 2: We've been talking about this. I've been asked about this

371
00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,119
Speaker 2: a whole lot. I just want to point out that

372
00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:16,360
Speaker 2: it does not mean that the SEC is a top

373
00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:19,520
Speaker 2: to bottom elite conference this year when someone like me

374
00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,520
Speaker 2: suggests they may deserve as many as five teams in

375
00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,119
Speaker 2: the playoff, Because when I say things like that, number one,

376
00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,359
Speaker 2: the season's not over. I don't even know if they

377
00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,240
Speaker 2: are going to be five viable candidates. Tennessee could lose

378
00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:33,080
Speaker 2: to Vanderbilt for all I know, Texas could lose to

379
00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:35,159
Speaker 2: or Texas A, and them could lose to Texas for

380
00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,280
Speaker 2: all I know, there may not be five. What I'm

381
00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,440
Speaker 2: saying and have been saying and will continue to say,

382
00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,000
Speaker 2: is if the chalk holds, there could be enough deserving

383
00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:44,600
Speaker 2: teams at the table. But when I've said that, the

384
00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,320
Speaker 2: pushback I've gotten is, dude, what do you The SEC

385
00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:48,399
Speaker 2: doesn't even have elite.

386
00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:48,840
Speaker 1: Teams this year.

387
00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,800
Speaker 2: I know that I don't even argue with it. I

388
00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:55,879
Speaker 2: am asking for the logic to be congruent. I'm asking

389
00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:59,280
Speaker 2: for the standard to be equally applied, because you cannot

390
00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:05,040
Speaker 2: tell me that the SEC is down without also acknowledging, dude,

391
00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:08,040
Speaker 2: past the top three. The Big tens kind of shallow

392
00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:11,480
Speaker 2: this year too. The ACC doesn't even have multiple candidates

393
00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,600
Speaker 2: to spit out. Ditto for the Big twelve. In all likelihood,

394
00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:18,679
Speaker 2: Notre Dame is sitting there in the top eight and

395
00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,080
Speaker 2: has a home loss to Northern Illinois, which is worse

396
00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,080
Speaker 2: than I lost. Any of these other SEC teams have.

397
00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,199
Speaker 2: And so you have to point all that out, is

398
00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,360
Speaker 2: what I'm asking. If the Big ten were pumping this year,

399
00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,800
Speaker 2: if they were rolling, if Miami and FSU and Virginia

400
00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,680
Speaker 2: Tech and Clemson were just star studded this year, I

401
00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:36,240
Speaker 2: wouldn't be.

402
00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:37,920
Speaker 1: Saying what I'm saying about the SEC.

403
00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:42,280
Speaker 2: All these SEC teams are flawed, but in an equally

404
00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:46,520
Speaker 2: calibrated scale, how do they measure up? You really shouldn't

405
00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:50,840
Speaker 2: even be saying SEC team. You should be saying team,

406
00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,720
Speaker 2: and which schedule did they play? And then how does

407
00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,480
Speaker 2: it stack up. I don't even by the way, the

408
00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,840
Speaker 2: SEC schedule. I don't want to say I haven't said

409
00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:02,879
Speaker 2: it at all, but I don't think I've set SEC

410
00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:06,160
Speaker 2: schedule because I don't know what that is anymore. I've

411
00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,800
Speaker 2: got Missouri playing the lineup of teams they played, and

412
00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,359
Speaker 2: I'm looking at Georgia play the lineup of teams they've played.

413
00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,320
Speaker 2: Those schedules don't even come from the same galaxy, much

414
00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,960
Speaker 2: less the same conference. So saying SEC schedule means next

415
00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,760
Speaker 2: to nothing to me. Like Texas right now is not

416
00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:23,120
Speaker 2: in the same boat as Georgia.

417
00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:24,720
Speaker 1: Texas loses next week.

418
00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,600
Speaker 2: In my opinion, Texas very well could be on the

419
00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,760
Speaker 2: outside looking in if they get what they deserve, because

420
00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:32,920
Speaker 2: Texas will not have enough meat on the bone. I'll

421
00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:36,320
Speaker 2: talk about that a little bit later, just the whole

422
00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:39,840
Speaker 2: SEC thing. Man, there's so much emotion in the room.

423
00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:42,200
Speaker 2: When I talked about that the other week, I said,

424
00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,080
Speaker 2: you guys can disagree with me. Of course, a lot

425
00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,080
Speaker 2: of you will disagree with me. I don't care about that.

426
00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,360
Speaker 2: All I care about is instead of calling me an idiot,

427
00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:53,040
Speaker 2: or instead of calling someone an SEC shill, just give

428
00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:57,440
Speaker 2: me a logic based rebuttal, don't don't respond in hysterics,

429
00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,920
Speaker 2: don't don't speak in this like macromotion based nonsense. Give

430
00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:06,159
Speaker 2: me logic based responses. Give me an argument, even if

431
00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,120
Speaker 2: I disagree with it. Put some meat on the bone

432
00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:10,640
Speaker 2: of the argument. I have not gotten much of that.

433
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:14,120
Speaker 2: I've just gotten this. Do things five SEC teams could

434
00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:17,919
Speaker 2: make it. That's just SEC bias. Brother, I work for CBS.

435
00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,520
Speaker 2: We don't even have a contract with the SEC anymore.

436
00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:24,760
Speaker 2: Like what are we talking about next up? I push

437
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:29,160
Speaker 2: the concept of the big lies in college football all

438
00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,399
Speaker 2: the time because I know moments like these are coming.

439
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,919
Speaker 2: One of the biggest lies in college football is you

440
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,880
Speaker 2: are what your record says you are. It comes from

441
00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,720
Speaker 2: the NFL, where Bill Parcells once famously said it, and

442
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,040
Speaker 2: he was right. You can make all the excuses in

443
00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:48,080
Speaker 2: the world. You can talk about all the tough bounces

444
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,400
Speaker 2: of the ball, and we did this here and they

445
00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,480
Speaker 2: did that there, But you are what your record says

446
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,719
Speaker 2: you are on Sundays, that's right. On Saturdays, that is

447
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:59,240
Speaker 2: not right. And I know some of you just outright

448
00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,479
Speaker 2: get that. I know some of you don't believe it.

449
00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:04,639
Speaker 2: You think that you are what your record says you are.

450
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,879
Speaker 2: But there's this other group. It's kind of the middle

451
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,479
Speaker 2: of the sandwich. There's this other group that kind of

452
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,120
Speaker 2: sort of nods their head, they say, yeah, I get it. Yeah,

453
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,440
Speaker 2: there's more to it than just what your record says

454
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:19,040
Speaker 2: you are. Because strength of schedule, there's such a huge

455
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,920
Speaker 2: gap conference to conference, team to team that we've got

456
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:27,640
Speaker 2: to weigh it more more smart than they do on Sunday.

457
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 1: But then when it comes time to actually do it,

458
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:32,240
Speaker 1: you can't help it.

459
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:37,399
Speaker 2: Your mind reverts back to what we can't bump Indiana down.

460
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,000
Speaker 2: If they're eleven and one, you can't leave them out

461
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 2: of the playoff.

462
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:42,640
Speaker 1: They're eleven and one.

463
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,200
Speaker 2: My goodness, what more can they do? You can only

464
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 2: play the games that put on your schedule. I know that,

465
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 2: I know that, but I had a guy earlier today.

466
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,879
Speaker 2: Try to play the emotion card. Try to say you

467
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:58,760
Speaker 2: can't rob an opportunity from those kids at Indiana if

468
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,440
Speaker 2: they lose to Ohio's eight, and there's still eleven in one.

469
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,920
Speaker 2: You can't put a ten and two team in above them.

470
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 2: And I said, of course I can. It would be

471
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 2: right to do that. He said, no, that's not right.

472
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:13,879
Speaker 2: You're robbing those kids. And I said, now that's not

473
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 2: a logic based rebuttal. What I'm asking is not to

474
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 2: use the term rob, not to use the term kids,

475
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 2: which implies you're victimizing someone. I want to know, heads

476
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:31,399
Speaker 2: up resume versus resume proper criteria, weighted and applied. Is

477
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 2: that eleven and one a more deserving resume than this

478
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,399
Speaker 2: ten and two? And people who say yes will be

479
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,160
Speaker 2: saying yes because you believe you are what your record

480
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 2: says you are. Because I know I'm getting ahead of myself.

481
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 2: But if Indiana loses by one or a million Saturday,

482
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:46,679
Speaker 2: I really don't care. I don't think they got a

483
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,920
Speaker 2: resume leg to stand on. But if you believe otherwise,

484
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 2: you've just bought into the big lie, which we can

485
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,199
Speaker 2: disagree on. And I still fully respect you, but I

486
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 2: do not believe in that. I do not at all. Yeah,

487
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,479
Speaker 2: it's not Indiana's fault. Their schedule is what it is,

488
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 2: but it's not Texas's fault either. It's not anyone else's

489
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 2: fault either.

490
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:06,880
Speaker 1: Is my point.

491
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,880
Speaker 2: I always hate when people say that it's not their fault,

492
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 2: their schedule is the way it is. Well, it's absolutely

493
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 2: their fault. They're out of conference. Schedule is the way

494
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 2: it is, So let's not go that far. But as

495
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:19,200
Speaker 2: far as their conference schedule, you're right, but you're also wrong.

496
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 1: The ranked wins argument. Man, I hate ranked wins.

497
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 2: When I'm college football commissioner, I am banning the phrase

498
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 2: ranked win ranked wins for a million different reasons.

499
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,879
Speaker 1: I can't stand them. But the one thing that's happening

500
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 1: right now is.

501
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 2: You'll see it every Tuesday night when that playoff committee

502
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 2: releases their latest rankings, and then we're looking at a

503
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:45,399
Speaker 2: team's resume and this and that. Ranked wins is a

504
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 2: category like Illinois snuck into the top twenty five this week.

505
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 2: So all of a sudden, that's a much more important

506
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 2: win for Penn State than it once upon a time was.

507
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,199
Speaker 2: I don't care if I play you, and then a

508
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 2: month later you're ranked twenty six or twenty fourth. It

509
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,439
Speaker 2: means the exact same. There's no differ, but yet there is.

510
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 2: There's a huge difference. On that resume card. Then the

511
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 2: other thing that happens is because of the ranked win thing.

512
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 2: I am looking right now at the inability for anyone

513
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 2: to understand that past the number twenty.

514
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:18,880
Speaker 1: Well, not anyone.

515
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 2: There's a group of people that think, if you're not

516
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 2: in the top twenty five, twenty six through one thirty

517
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 2: four is just equal, you know. So, like I happen

518
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 2: to think Wisconsin, if you have played them and beaten them,

519
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,679
Speaker 2: is a fairly good win. I got Wisconsin Power rated

520
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 2: like thirty thirty one, thirty two, something like that, So

521
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 2: I think of that as a really quality win. I've

522
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 2: got a lot of people telling me you're singling out

523
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 2: Indiana and Penn State's record is the exact same, Their

524
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 2: resume is the exact same.

525
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 1: You you could not be more.

526
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 2: Wrong, and they keep so well like USC or Wisconsin,

527
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,880
Speaker 2: Like those wins are any better than the ones Indiana has.

528
00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,160
Speaker 1: They are miles better. Yes they are.

529
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 2: It's no different than if I'm looking at you beat

530
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 2: number eighteen and I beat number twenty five. You look

531
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 2: at that and you say, oh, there's not a lot

532
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 2: of difference there. But if I beat number eighteen and

533
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 2: you beat number twenty six. I got a ranked win

534
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 2: and you don't just the same. I could have a

535
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 2: non ranked win over a team that in reality is

536
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,360
Speaker 2: like number twenty eight, and you could have a win

537
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 2: over a team that in reality is like number seventy nine.

538
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 2: I got a way better win than you. There's a

539
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,120
Speaker 2: group of people that just look at both of those

540
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 2: as the same thing. Penn State's resume is markedly better

541
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 2: with a loss, markedly better than Indiana. So I don't

542
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 2: want to hear that. And then I got Notre Dame.

543
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 2: I haven't personally had a huge problem with Notre Dame.

544
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 2: I get the people who do, though, because you've looked

545
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 2: at them. Lose to Northern Illinois, they won't have to

546
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 2: play a conference title game, and they've got four ranked wins,

547
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,640
Speaker 2: guys four if they beat Army. If they beat Army,

548
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 2: they'll have four ranked wins. I understand the rolling of

549
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 2: the eyes when you're talking about Notre Dame's four ranked

550
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 2: wins in their Navy Army Louisville and then Texas A

551
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 2: and M. I'm not taking anything away from that that's legit,

552
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 2: but I do get it. There's a lot of debate.

553
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 2: I will promise you some of this will sort itself out,

554
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 2: but all of it won't. There's going to be supreme

555
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 2: controversy a couple of Sundays from this upcoming Sunday. It's

556
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 2: unavoidable now, unlike quick Trip, Unlike quick Trip, Quick Trip.

557
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,160
Speaker 2: Actually no, it's very much like that. It should be unavoidable.

558
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 2: It is on this show. If you check out the

559
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 2: whole new Saturday Tour, Quick Trip unavoidable because they have

560
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 2: fueled this thing all year long. Look at us, Look

561
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,400
Speaker 2: at we're in Tempe, Arizona. Never been here before. By

562
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 2: the way, we're sitting here in sun Devil Stadium on

563
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 2: a Thursday night. Why cause Quick Trip allows us to

564
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 2: be cause just they fuel it up.

565
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 1: Not like we rode a bike all the way out here, but.

566
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 2: They fuel us up as a show, as a people,

567
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 2: as a Pate state people. They fuel us and they say,

568
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 2: go wherever you want to give out free gas in

569
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 2: the process. I don't know how many thousands of dollars

570
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,959
Speaker 2: of free gas we've given out. Joe, you guys might

571
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 2: want to check on that Quick Trip. Joe qtj as

572
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 2: as he's known in my phone, has been our hook

573
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 2: up all year. We appreciate him and we appreciate quick trip.

574
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 2: Where will we be next week?

575
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 1: Hoops amongst us knows.

576
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 2: First things first, we got a big game coming up

577
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 2: this Saturday here day game two and get back home

578
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 2: Saturday night. Speaking of that game, we take a couple

579
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 2: of minutes here and I got you some best bets

580
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 2: coming up in a second two and I got Kenny

581
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,360
Speaker 2: Dillingham on the show tonight, so we're actually far from done.

582
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 2: I've also got a couple of Q and A for you,

583
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 2: so we got a lot still to get to. BYU

584
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 2: Arizona State. I've been cited for this game for a

585
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 2: couple of weeks and here we are, so we're going

586
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 2: to be firsthand. We're going to be sidelined for it.

587
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 2: Two of the most improved teams in the country. Do

588
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 2: you realize last year Arizona State was three and nine,

589
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 2: BYU was five and seven, and they're sitting here eight

590
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 2: and two and nine and one respectively right now. I

591
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 2: think when I look at this game, BYU needs to

592
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 2: do something special.

593
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: And if you've washed.

594
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 2: Burgham young this year, they've won a lot of games,

595
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 2: but it hasn't been that there's been this one huge playmaker.

596
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 2: There's this one star quarterback, and they've slowed down scoring

597
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 2: a little bit, Like they scored thirty plus in seven

598
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 2: of their first eight games, and they've been held to

599
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 2: twenty two and thirteen over the last couple of games.

600
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: They don't have like a takeover guy.

601
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 2: Like you got Skataboo at running back for Arizona State,

602
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 2: like guys like Jeremiah Smith at Ohio State or Ryan

603
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 2: Williams and Alabama. Those are takeover guys BYU probably didn't

604
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 2: have that. But in the you know, the more zoomed

605
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 2: out perspective, they've just got a rock solid team. They've

606
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 2: been winning with team football, and they've been winning because

607
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 2: they consistently are really good in turnovers. I'm gonna talk

608
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 2: about that in a second. But they lost to Kansas

609
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 2: because of the red zone last week. Kansas went into

610
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 2: Provo and beat them because they were inconsistent in the

611
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 2: red zone. They've been They've been all year thirty second

612
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 2: in red zone scoring, ninety ninth in red zone touchdown percentage,

613
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 2: which means they get down here a fair amount and score,

614
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 2: but it's normally through the uprights, it's not so much

615
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 2: across the goal line. But they play good defense, so

616
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 2: it's been okay. This, however, is a playmaker kind of

617
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 2: game for Arizona State.

618
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: I mentioned Skataboo.

619
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 2: He is the number three guy in FBS and total

620
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 2: yards per game, number two leading receiver on this team.

621
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 2: And then when you watch him at tailback and he

622
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 2: should have pretty good success, pretty good room to run

623
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 2: against the BYU. You also need to know Sam Levitt,

624
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 2: the quarterback for Arizona State. That's the guy who was

625
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 2: in the process of taking the job really during the spring,

626
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 2: like Jayden Rashata was penciled in as.

627
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: The starter here and I'm making sure you know.

628
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 2: No one's around that dude was getting outplayed in the spring,

629
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 2: and he realized it and he left. No ill will,

630
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 2: no hard feelings, like no one speaks an ill word

631
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 2: of Jaden Rashad in this building, but they love Sam

632
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 2: Levitt and and Rashata transferred. A lot of people outside

633
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 2: tenp freaked out. No one here did. I'm gonna talk

634
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 2: to Dillingham a little while about that. But I look

635
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 2: at him. He's had three touchdowns and zero picks in

636
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 2: three straight games. This is the game that he needs

637
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 2: to be on because this is the kind of game

638
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 2: where if he performs like that, they will win. It's

639
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 2: turnovers and it's Brigham Young's propensity to force them that

640
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 2: I'm really not concerned about. But I'm a little weary

641
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 2: of turnovers and red zone success will decide this game.

642
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 2: I think home field will have a big factor here.

643
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 2: They've sold this place out. It's a hard sellout. There

644
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 2: are no tickets available. Every single one of these things

645
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 2: has been sold.

646
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: Colin.

647
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 2: Let's take a look at what the model thinks. The

648
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 2: FanDuel number on this game right now is Arizona State

649
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 2: minus three and a half. The model pretty much agrees

650
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 2: models got Arizona State minus three. I just think they're

651
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 2: scaling up at the right time. And I wonder a

652
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 2: little bit about Brigham Young if the gas tank theory

653
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 2: is in play here where Every year we see teams

654
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 2: that are rolling through like week nine, Week ten, and

655
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 2: then you realize November is the longest month of the

656
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 2: year in college football. We always say that, and you realize, man,

657
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 2: they got closed, but.

658
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: Then they just ran out of gas.

659
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 2: I wonder if bringing Young is that not that they

660
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 2: get blown out, but I wonder if that's enough to

661
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 2: swing this game. I think it will be. I'm gonna

662
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 2: take Arizona State to win and cover all right. Open

663
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 2: up the mailbag earlier today and wanted to get to

664
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 2: a couple of these before we bring Kenny Dillingham in here.

665
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 2: The first one was one of you asked me just

666
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 2: my general thoughts on Texas right now, because Texas is

667
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 2: in an interesting spot. Like Texas, the range of outcome

668
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 2: with this team right now is wild if you think

669
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 2: about how uniquely placed they are so right now, Texas

670
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 2: is sitting there.

671
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: I think they're still top five.

672
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 2: I can't remember off the top of my head what

673
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 2: the playoff ranking had a map.

674
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: But like the.

675
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 2: Potential of Texas winning the conference in their first year

676
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 2: in the SEC, oh, it's a huge, huge story.

677
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: It's a huge story.

678
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 2: But you know what else will be a huge story

679
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 2: would be Texas penciled in all year. They've been either

680
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 2: the favorite or co favorite to win the SEC all year.

681
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 2: I believe it FanDuel right now their favor to win

682
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 2: the SEC. And yet if they lose next Saturday on

683
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 2: the road at A and M, I'm probably gonna sit

684
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 2: here and tell you, based on their resume, they do

685
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 2: not belong in the playoff, which is very weird for Texas,

686
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 2: of all teams, to be in a situation where there's

687
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 2: kind of an ab scenario. Either they either they probably

688
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 2: go to the conference championship game or they just don't

689
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 2: make the playoff. That's why I am careful not to

690
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 2: say SEC schedule, because you got teams like Georgia that

691
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 2: I think full well could afford to lose two games

692
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 2: and still have one of the best resumes in the

693
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 2: country because of the strength of their schedule. But Texas

694
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 2: plays at the same conference they lost. In that scenario,

695
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 2: they're two big games. If they lose to Georgia and

696
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 2: they lose to A and M, I'd put them out

697
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 2: for the same reason I put Indiana out, and that's

698
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 2: an SCA team. But it just so happens their schedule

699
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 2: fell the wrong way, just as indiana schedule has fallen

700
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 2: the wrong way. Now, the difference with Georgia, or difference

701
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 2: with Texas is they had a shot. They had a

702
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 2: couple of shots, and we're speaking in a hypothetical if

703
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 2: they lose next weekend. Because I saw someone today they

704
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 2: said Texas's strength of schedules in the thirties, How can

705
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 2: you say they wouldn't belong.

706
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: Well, it's it's a very good point.

707
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 2: But the counterpoint is if your strength of schedule is

708
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 2: in the thirties and your Texas, it's because it's propped

709
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 2: up by having Georgia on there and have an A

710
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 2: and M on there. But if you lost both of

711
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 2: those games, like if you lost the big opportunities that

712
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,879
Speaker 2: make your strength of schedule look halfway decent, what are

713
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 2: you standing on? The Arkansas win, the Vanderbilt win, the

714
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 2: Michigan win's not worth anything. So what are we really

715
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 2: standing on? When I say not worth anything, I mean

716
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 2: it's nothing that you're going to hang your hat on.

717
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 2: So I think that Texas is one of the most

718
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 2: interesting stories right now because they may go win the

719
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 2: SEC or they may be out of the playoff. By

720
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 2: the way, I think somehow the committee is stilling to

721
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:06,919
Speaker 2: find a way to put Texas in. If they lose

722
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 2: next week, it's my opinion that possibly they should be

723
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 2: on the outside looking in.

724
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 1: I think you'll still be okay.

725
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:18,399
Speaker 2: Next up, had had a little question about Dion right quick,

726
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 2: and trust me, I saw the news on another quarterback

727
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 2: a little while ago. I'm gonna touch on that in

728
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 2: a second, but Tyler hit me and said, with the

729
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 2: commitment of Julian Lewis earlier today, do you think Colorado's

730
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 2: success is sustainable without Shadeur Sanders. Look, this vibe has changed. Okay,

731
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 2: the vibe around Dion and Colorado was once Shadeor's gone.

732
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 2: He's gone. I don't think that's the case anymore. And

733
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 2: I can tell you that is certainly not the vibe

734
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 2: anymore now. I don't know if that means people have

735
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 2: slowly come around to realizing that Dion's there a little

736
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 2: bit longer than you thought he'd be, or you got guys.

737
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: You know, it could just be that.

738
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 2: Dion himself has settled in decided. You know, maybe I've

739
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 2: changed my mind, maybe I want to be here. That's

740
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 2: his story to tell. That's not my story to tell.

741
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,720
Speaker 2: But if you've missed what Tyler was talking about. Juju

742
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 2: Lewis plays in Carrollton, He's a Trojan, plays in Carrollton, Georgia,

743
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 2: and he was committed to USC quarterback. He decommitted. He

744
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 2: committed to Colorado earlier today. It's kind of a proverbial

745
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 2: passing of the torch moment, if you will, from Shador

746
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 2: to Juju Lewis. Now, I wonder about I wonder about

747
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 2: a couple of things here. I wonder if he'll be

748
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 2: ready to play as a true freshman. I wonder, you know,

749
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 2: if his game is at the level that they could

750
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 2: plug and play him. My guess would be no. But

751
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 2: you know what, I'm done guessing around Dion because he's

752
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 2: proved a lot of people, including me wrong in a

753
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 2: lot of different areas. So maybe they get that. But

754
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 2: broader strokes, you know, whether he's ready or not, the

755
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 2: sustainability of the program, I think it could be there.

756
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 2: I don't look at them now as a two horse

757
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 2: sort of team.

758
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 1: I don't look at him like that. Now.

759
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 2: You probably know two players on that team. They've played

760
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 2: good football. That defense is much improved. I think that

761
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 2: run game in years to come can improve. It's certainly

762
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 2: not something that they ride this year. But you know,

763
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 2: they've come in this conference, the Big Twelve this year,

764
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 2: and they have handled it better than I thought they

765
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,800
Speaker 2: would because the Big Twelve it looks like it's easy,

766
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 2: you know, because there aren't superpower teams here. You've got

767
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,399
Speaker 2: a bunch of teams in this conference that are full

768
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 2: of fourth and fifth year guys. They're veteran, laid in

769
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:34,720
Speaker 2: great culture outposts, and Colorado comes in and they say, Okay,

770
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,399
Speaker 2: well maybe we'll just go win it anyway. So even

771
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:41,280
Speaker 2: after Shador Sanders is gone, and even after Travis Hunter

772
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 2: is gone, you don't fill that void immediately. But I

773
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,439
Speaker 2: think Dion can win there past this year. So yes,

774
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,720
Speaker 2: I'm a believer. Also, before we get to Kenny Dillingham Man,

775
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 2: oh Man, what an earthquake went off earlier today in

776
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 2: the college football world of recruiting. I don't even care

777
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 2: if you follow recruiting. This is a big one. This

778
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 2: impacts everyone. This was Bryce Underwood, number one player as

779
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 2: far as I'm concerned, number one quarterback, number one player,

780
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 2: the most important recruit in this upcoming cycle. Been committed

781
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 2: to LSU. Since January, he decommitted. He has committed to Michigan.

782
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 2: I cannot overstate enough how big a deal this is.

783
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 2: Bryce Underwood is as big a a mortal lock to

784
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 2: be a star at the next level as we've seen

785
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 2: in quite a while. I'm not going to use the

786
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 2: G word generational. I'm not going to use that word,

787
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 2: but he is a total man amongst boys in high school.

788
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 1: Been committed to LSU. Everything was contingent on this.

789
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 2: You've heard me talk about Brian Kelly, and you've heard

790
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 2: me talk about anybody who's having a problem with him

791
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 2: down there, they say in the very next sentence, but

792
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 2: we'll wait and see what he does once Underwood gets here.

793
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 1: That's gone. That's gone.

794
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 2: That doesn't mean it's over for Brian Kelly, but as

795
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 2: far as it relates to his future being tied to

796
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 2: Bryce Underwood being his quarterback, that's gone.

797
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: And I don't know where they go. This is one

798
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 1: I cannot sugarcoat for you.

799
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 2: They got some really smart people in that building, running recruiting,

800
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 2: running nil.

801
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: They know what they're doing, but there is nobody.

802
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 2: I don't care how seasoned you are, I don't care

803
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 2: how sharp you are that when they get caught across

804
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:23,959
Speaker 2: the jaw with this doesn't fall down.

805
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 1: They may not be knocked out. But LSU's down tonight.

806
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:31,280
Speaker 2: And this is happening against the backdrop of a season

807
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 2: that's kind of gone off the rails late a little bit,

808
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 2: and the season going off the rails was one thing

809
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, guys, if you don't follow this granularly

810
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 2: an LSU fan that in Boseure City or Tipodour or wherever.

811
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 2: They're not happy about the season going the way it

812
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 2: has gone, but everybody has put their stock in the

813
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 2: yeah butt, and the yeah butt has been Yeah, we're

814
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 2: not going to the playoff this year, but we got

815
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 2: Bryce Underwood coming in and now you don't, and it's

816
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 2: going to be an uncomfortable December. They can't fill that void,

817
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 2: and I don't know how they do it, but I

818
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 2: will say this, if Bryce Underwood is not going to

819
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:10,240
Speaker 2: be part of your class, there is a healthy reallocation

820
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,919
Speaker 2: of nil funds that they will be able to take

821
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,399
Speaker 2: advantage of. And so they are going to swing. They

822
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 2: may go down swinging, but they're gonna swing. But Man,

823
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,839
Speaker 2: Michigan football, the future of that program just changed. I mean,

824
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,399
Speaker 2: Sharone Moore's future just changed. I don't know how much

825
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 2: clear it can be for you guys. Your future's kind

826
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 2: of always been tied to your quarterback, but now more

827
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 2: than ever, your futures tied to your quarterback. You got

828
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,720
Speaker 2: to go get one. It doesn't matter what your scheme

829
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 2: looks like, it doesn't matter what your core principles and

830
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,439
Speaker 2: tenants are. You can have all that stuff in line

831
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 2: and lose. If the other guy's got the better quarterback

832
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 2: than you, well, now you got him. You got him,

833
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,919
Speaker 2: and now Michigan, for the first time in forever, can

834
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 2: sell to prospective wide receivers. You can come here and

835
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 2: have the best in the country throw to you and distribute.

836
00:40:58,640 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 1: The ball to you.

837
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 2: That's all always been a lie if a Michigan coach

838
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 2: told you that before, and now they're being dead serious

839
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 2: in their ability to say it. This is the eleventh

840
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 2: hour that this is hitting LSU in.

841
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: It sucks. I don't know how else to put it.

842
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 2: Man, It is not a death blow, but it is

843
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 2: a crippling blow for LSU, and it is potentially the

844
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 2: beginning of something very special for Michigan. All Right, FanDuel

845
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 2: exclusive odds provider of the show, I Man, I cannot

846
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 2: wait to see how some of these, some of these

847
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 2: conference championship odds move after this weekend. That's just a

848
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 2: little something I'm watching on the side. The Heisman market.

849
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,320
Speaker 2: The Heisman market. I got a little anecdote for you guys,

850
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 2: depending on how that Heisman thing plays out. I can't

851
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 2: share it with you right now. I don't know why

852
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 2: people do what I just did. If you're going to

853
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 2: say something, say it. I'm sorry. I'll share it with

854
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,240
Speaker 2: you when the season ends. Hold me to that. Remind

855
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,280
Speaker 2: me of that. But Fandel exclusive odds provider of the show.

856
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 2: You look at the you look at the board. We'll

857
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 2: do Friday Night Lines tomorrow night from a hotel just

858
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 2: behind this mountain here. I can walk to the game

859
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 2: Saturday from my room. We'll do that live courtesy of

860
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 2: FanDuel at late Kickjosh on Instagram. Make sure you're following,

861
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 2: but in the.

862
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 1: Meantime, listen to that.

863
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 2: I got two more best bets to add here, So

864
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,760
Speaker 2: on the Raman Noodle Express this week, we're on Texas

865
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 2: Tech minus three and a half. All right, We're on

866
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 2: Boston College plus two and a half. I am going

867
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 2: to add Kennesau State plus eight and a half, and

868
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,919
Speaker 2: I'm gonna add West Virginia plus two and a half.

869
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: Are we on? Let's see? No, we got a dog

870
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: in there, all right?

871
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 2: We got three dogs in a favorite, Three dogs in

872
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 2: a favorite.

873
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: Not a bad restaurant name idea. I'll get on that anyway.

874
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 2: Make sure you're following on Instagram at Lake Kickjosh, because

875
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 2: we will do Friday Night lines Tomorrow night.

876
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,720
Speaker 1: I'll let you know what time. Just make sure you're following.

877
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 2: Sign up for FanDuel at FanDuel dot com backslash CFB

878
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,240
Speaker 2: promotion must be twenty one plus and present in select

879
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 2: states for Kansas in affiliation with Kansas Star Casino, or

880
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 2: eighteen plus and present in Washington, DC. First online real

881
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 2: money wager only ten dollars first deposit required. Bonus issued

882
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 2: is non withdrawable bonus bet that expires seven days after receipt.

883
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 2: Do you have a gambling problem? If so, call one

884
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 2: eight hundred gambler or visitfanduel dot com backslash RG call

885
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 2: one eight eight eight seven eight nine seven seven seven seven,

886
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 2: or visit CCPG dot org backslash chat in Connecticut, or

887
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 2: visit MD gambling heelp dot org in Maryland. Hope is here,

888
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 2: visit gambling Helplinema dot org or call eight hundred three

889
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,240
Speaker 2: two seven fifty to fifty for twenty four seven support

890
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 2: in Massachusetts, or call one eight seven seven eight Hope,

891
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 2: n Y. Or text h op E n Y in

892
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 2: New York. All Right, Kenny Dillingham, about an hour or

893
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 2: so ago, just strolled out here. Just hanging out and

894
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,280
Speaker 2: I said, sit down, man, let's talk. And then Gelby

895
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 2: set up the lights and the cameras and we just

896
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 2: got a full conversation here. So I'm gonna wrap the

897
00:43:57,960 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 2: show here. I'm a toss to what we did with

898
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 2: Kenny Dillingham. Appreciate you guys so much. I think you'll

899
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 2: enjoy this a lot because a lot of you don't

900
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 2: know KD and you need to get.

901
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 1: To know him.

902
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 2: He's gonna be around for a while because he's like

903
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 2: thirty four years old, so he'll be around forever. Here's

904
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 2: our talk with him a little while ago.

905
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: Can you believe this?

906
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 2: Kenny Dillingham, Arizona State head coach joins us, can you

907
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 2: believe that? First off, we're sitting here in late afternoon,

908
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 2: shirt sleeve weather.

909
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:24,720
Speaker 1: You've got BYU.

910
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 2: Coming into town for what is a pivotal Big twelve

911
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 2: championship type game. You got the playoff that people are

912
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 2: whispering about, and a couple of years ago you take

913
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 2: over the job and people are like, man, how long

914
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 2: is it going to before we hear about Arizona State again?

915
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 2: So you're in the weeds, you're in the bunker right now.

916
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,240
Speaker 2: But also you can take a breath for a second

917
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:45,839
Speaker 2: and say that's pretty cool.

918
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, quick second, very quick. Secondly, because we have one

919
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 3: of the biggest games, you know, in the country. It's

920
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,879
Speaker 3: the most expensive taking in the country right now by

921
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 3: three x. I mean it's three hundred dollars to enter

922
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,479
Speaker 3: our stadium at any seat right now. So this place

923
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 3: is fired up for Saturday.

924
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 2: I grew up in the South. I always looked at

925
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:06,359
Speaker 2: Arizona State.

926
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:07,399
Speaker 1: It's a long way away.

927
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 2: I didn't really know where Arizona was on the map,

928
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 2: but I always when I learned at little geography, it's like,

929
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 2: this place looks like it's got a really big stadium,

930
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 2: weather looks great. Confirmed by the way, a lot of talent,

931
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 2: a lot of high school talent in Arizona. I know

932
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 2: that because other schools go into Arizona and they're taking

933
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 2: kids out to go play else where.

934
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: Man, what if someone gets it figured out there?

935
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 2: And so I've watched it over the years, you know,

936
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 2: and now I'm in this business and I know a

937
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 2: lot more intimate details. But when you look at the

938
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 2: profile of where you guys are, where you guys could be,

939
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 2: you know it better than anyone.

940
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:40,720
Speaker 1: Like what can Arizona State.

941
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,760
Speaker 3: Be Arizona State can be as good as any school

942
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 3: in the country.

943
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 4: It really can.

944
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 3: It's a growing city, so we can continue to grow

945
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 3: with it. Right it's still in a college town. The

946
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 3: university is a four point five billion dollar enterprise. It's

947
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 3: not just a university. People just think we're Arizona State University.

948
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 3: We're a four point five billion dollar enterprise. We're way bigger.

949
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 3: Our reach in the real world is way bigger than

950
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 3: anybody could imagine for recruits when they actually graduate and

951
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:12,240
Speaker 3: get into the real world. In this place, this valley,

952
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 3: there was a time. I'm born and raised here. There

953
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 3: was a time that it was the Phoenix Suns and

954
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 3: it was the Arizona State Sun Devils, and that was it,

955
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 3: and that was what you did on Saturday, you went

956
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 3: to Sun double games. On throughout the week, you went

957
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 3: to Suns games and you tailgated and it was everything.

958
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:29,479
Speaker 4: And then the.

959
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 3: City grew and we became one of the largest cities

960
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 3: in the country and we got pro sports, which is awesome,

961
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 3: which is great, But that root of Sun Devil faithful

962
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 3: are here. They just want a winner. I mean, this

963
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 3: is paradise out here. Winners live here, they retire, they're

964
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 3: successful in life, and they move here.

965
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:47,720
Speaker 4: It's paradise. They want a winner.

966
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 3: We're winning, We're sold out, and it's gonna be one

967
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 3: of the best environments in college football. So working this

968
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 3: place be as good as good as any place in

969
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 3: the country. You just got to get good talent. There's

970
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 3: got to be people who say we want to stay here.

971
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:00,439
Speaker 3: Our kids got to say we want want to stay

972
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 3: here and do something special here.

973
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 2: When you guys came out of spring ball as good

974
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:06,399
Speaker 2: a grasp as you can have on your team coming

975
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 2: out of spring, what did you think you guys were

976
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 2: capable of?

977
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:11,240
Speaker 1: And then how is it sort of involved?

978
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 2: Like how much have you learned about this group that

979
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 2: you probably couldn't have even known coming out of spring.

980
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, I felt like, man, we got talent, Like we're

981
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 3: not we're not bad, Like we have the talent to compete.

982
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 3: It was how are our guys gonna handle close games?

983
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 3: Are we people that the close game? We smile, We

984
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 3: look at each other, you ready to go win the game?

985
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 3: Like you ready to go win this thing? Or are

986
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 3: we the type of people are like make sure you

987
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 3: make sure we communicate? No, and the coolest thing is

988
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 3: when I heard Sam Levitt, it was a freshman, right,

989
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 3: it was leading our team, one of the top quarterbacks

990
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:44,800
Speaker 3: in college football.

991
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 4: Who wants to be here? To tell JT. R. White

992
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 4: out before our last drive in a game, he goes,

993
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 4: you ready to go win this thing?

994
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 3: Okay, that's what I realized how good we could be

995
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 3: in the spring. I didn't know we had that kind

996
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 3: of dog in us. Yeah, I learned that in the season.

997
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 2: Well, what's wild is so I take myself back to Nashville,

998
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 2: sitting in our studio in the spring, and I see

999
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 2: a headline and all the preview magazines have a guy

1000
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,800
Speaker 2: listed as your starter, and then I see breaking news

1001
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 2: he's not going to be there anymore. He's in the portal,

1002
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 2: and a lot of people freaked out. And then the

1003
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 2: closer you got to the program, the less freak out

1004
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 2: you felt. And that's not to speak ill of anyone,

1005
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 2: but it is to speak pretty highly of like the

1006
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,240
Speaker 2: internal confidence you guys had. I don't think most other people,

1007
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 2: including maybe even me, I don't think a lot of

1008
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 2: people knew maybe what Sam Levitt was doing even in

1009
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 2: the spring here and now come into the season and

1010
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 2: I think he's just now popping on a lot of

1011
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 2: people's radars because they've been paying attention to like a

1012
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 2: few programs all year and a few quarterback names all year.

1013
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: And this dude's.

1014
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 2: Got a shot, probably as good as shot as he's

1015
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,919
Speaker 2: had on a national stage this year to do something

1016
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 2: big this Saturday. That may be when a lot of

1017
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 2: people see him for the first time. What have you

1018
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 2: seen from him all year?

1019
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 1: Though? Like, what have you seen that gave you confidence?

1020
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,359
Speaker 1: Coming out of spring? Even that will be all right?

1021
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 3: Competitive nature, Like the care level reminds me of the

1022
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 3: guys I've coached, like Bonix and Jordan Travis, And it's.

1023
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 4: Just there's something. There's an it.

1024
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1025
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 3: You know when you talk to somebody and you're like

1026
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,439
Speaker 3: that dude's got it, and you're like, okay, well he's

1027
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 3: got it. He can lead, he wants it, he's intelligent,

1028
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 3: all right. Then you watch him in spring ball and

1029
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 3: you see some freak plays he makes, you're like, Okay,

1030
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 3: this kid cares.

1031
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 4: He's got it.

1032
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,439
Speaker 3: He's got this thing about him, and then he has

1033
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,760
Speaker 3: all these tools to make it. If we can truly

1034
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 3: develop this dude, he's got all the stuff you can't

1035
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 3: coach so.

1036
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 4: Now let's go coach him.

1037
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 3: And I think that's it was the exciting part in

1038
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 3: the spring was you just when you look into his eyes,

1039
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 3: you're like, he's got it and you can't coach that.

1040
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:44,919
Speaker 3: And I have coached guys who are like that. They're

1041
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 3: playing on Sundays right now. One of them just won

1042
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 3: I think every award known demand last week for the

1043
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:53,839
Speaker 3: Broncos and bone X, and he's got it here.

1044
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 4: Sam has it.

1045
00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 2: When you are putting together a play, when you're putting

1046
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 2: together an offensive game plan, maybe even during spring, like

1047
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 2: when you're trying to filter out which you probably won't

1048
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 2: use this season and package up what you will use

1049
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,800
Speaker 2: to fit your personnel, how often do you look around

1050
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 2: and say, you know, it's it's players over plays, Like

1051
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 2: we can draw it up on a board, but at

1052
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 2: the end of the day, we got to get these

1053
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 2: guys room to actually do what they do. May not

1054
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 2: look pretty on a grease board, but that's actually how

1055
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 2: we're gonna win games this.

1056
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 4: Fall, no question.

1057
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm a high school coach going way back

1058
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 3: to my root I coach seven years of high school

1059
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 3: out here.

1060
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,240
Speaker 4: I had no connection to college football, and when I learned.

1061
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 3: I coached eighth graders at a park literally ten minutes

1062
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 3: from here where the lights didn't turn on, and I'd

1063
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 3: have to turn my truck on.

1064
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 4: To show lights at the stream of.

1065
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 1: The Titans vibe. Yeah, literally, that was it.

1066
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 4: We had our coaches, we'd put the lights on.

1067
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 3: And I say all that because at those levels, you

1068
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 3: just you get what you get, and you find a

1069
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 3: way to get your best players the ball over and

1070
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:51,720
Speaker 3: over again.

1071
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 4: You put your best player at quarterback, you snap it

1072
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 4: to them, you run right, you run left, right, You

1073
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 4: maybe put them at wide out, throw them a screen.

1074
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 3: But it's that mindset at now with the knowledge of

1075
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:03,760
Speaker 3: a guy like coach a royal who's more NFL driven

1076
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 3: than even I have in my background, and you say, okay,

1077
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:08,320
Speaker 3: how do we just get our best players of the

1078
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 3: ball as much as possible. And that's why Jordan Tyson

1079
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 3: went off last week almost two hundred yards of offense receiving.

1080
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 3: It's why Cam Scattaboo, I don't know if he is

1081
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 3: still but was leading the country in yards per scrimmage.

1082
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 3: And it's because at the end of the day, we're

1083
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 3: gonna get our best players in the ball. And that's

1084
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 3: our job as coaches to get our best players at

1085
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 3: the ball, and I think we do that as good

1086
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 3: as anybody in the country.

1087
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 2: When you guys last week were at Kansas State, I'm

1088
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 2: at the Georgia Tennessee game, so I can't watch it live,

1089
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 2: and I think, you guys got a dog fight on

1090
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 2: your hands. You got an outside shot to go in

1091
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 2: there and win. And I look at my phone and

1092
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,959
Speaker 2: it's twenty one. Oh, and then you're up like twenty.

1093
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 2: You ended up winning twenty four to fourteen. But I

1094
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 2: mean they're trying to play catch up, like they're trying

1095
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 2: to get back in the game. Everybody when they have

1096
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 2: like a big season, you're in the middle of one

1097
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 2: right now. They always have that moment. Like if there's

1098
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 2: ever a documentary made or you're speaking to a quarterback

1099
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 2: club at the end of the year, you always go

1100
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 2: back to these few moments saying, hey, this was the

1101
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 2: turning point. That's when I knew when you're in that moment,

1102
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 2: it's heat of battle. But like when you're looking and

1103
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 2: you're saying, wow, we're in this situation right now, Like

1104
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 2: what does that feel like?

1105
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it was. It was.

1106
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 3: I mean, just like holy cow. Like there's not a

1107
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:19,879
Speaker 3: word or an expression for it. Like you're obviously it's

1108
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 3: second quarter, the game's not even closed over right, But

1109
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 3: it's like, we got a chance, you.

1110
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 4: Know, we got a chance.

1111
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,240
Speaker 3: And I'll say this, like that moment that you're talking

1112
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 3: about after the UCF game two weeks prior, where we

1113
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 3: played horrible, we found a way to win on special teams,

1114
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 3: picked six special teams, touchdown. We found a way to win,

1115
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,879
Speaker 3: and then thirty five guys went and hung out together

1116
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 3: after the game. I was like, we got a chance,

1117
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 3: Like we just won a game we shouldn't in a

1118
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 3: way we shouldn't, and then thirty five kids chose to

1119
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 3: hang out together at night. I know that's such a

1120
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 3: small thing, a little thing, but that tells you the

1121
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 3: connection of the team is beyond the game. And when

1122
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 3: your connection is beyond the game, anything can happen. And

1123
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 3: then the next week we go out and play our

1124
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 3: best football game. I don't think that's coincidence. I think

1125
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 3: that's connection and relationship that's real. That's not fake, that's

1126
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 3: not just put on a board and said from a coach.

1127
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 3: It's the players genuinely like and care about each other.

1128
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 2: Now, if you google your name, I would imagine something's

1129
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:19,840
Speaker 2: gonna pop up that talks about you being one of

1130
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:21,800
Speaker 2: the youngest head coaches in college football.

1131
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 1: Do you feel young? No, you don't feel young at all.

1132
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:25,919
Speaker 4: I really don't.

1133
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 3: I've been coaching since I was seventeen, right, so this

1134
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 3: is actually my seventeenth year coaching, which isn't even on

1135
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 3: even close to some other guys.

1136
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,240
Speaker 4: But you don't say, somebody, it's year seventeen.

1137
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 3: You're like, oh, that's young if you actually look at

1138
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 3: that body of work.

1139
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:42,879
Speaker 4: I was too on athletic to play, and my high

1140
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 4: school head coach is like, hey, let's just throw that

1141
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 4: in the back. Let's just start coaching. Man, go coach

1142
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:50,280
Speaker 4: the freshman team.

1143
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 3: And then eighth grader's out here fifteen minutes from here

1144
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 3: because I'm born and raised here.

1145
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 4: So it was my wife. My wife danced here.

1146
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 3: So for me, it was like, yeah, I'm young, I

1147
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 3: get it. Everybody watched me run thinks I'm old. I'm unathletic.

1148
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 3: I can't even hope anymore because I've had too many

1149
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 3: knee surgeries. Like, so I'm young at heart. I'll say

1150
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 3: that that's I.

1151
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 1: Mean in a low key way, or maybe you're just

1152
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 1: real about it.

1153
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 2: That's a blessing, though, What if you were on the borderline,

1154
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:17,320
Speaker 2: what if you could kind of play? What if you

1155
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 2: would have tried to dabble and you wouldn't have gotten

1156
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,840
Speaker 2: into coaching until twenty eight years old. So in a way,

1157
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 2: your DNA became a blessing?

1158
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 1: Did it? Not?

1159
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:24,800
Speaker 4: One hundred percent?

1160
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 3: I mean I tore my ACL going into my senior

1161
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 3: of high school, tried to play without my ACL that

1162
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 3: I was already five nine unathletic and ran a four

1163
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:35,879
Speaker 3: to eight. So now I'm five nine athletic, a run

1164
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 3: a five flat and my coach is like, you're done.

1165
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 4: You're done, son. If you want a coach, let's start you.

1166
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 3: And that coach today is our special teams coordinator right now,

1167
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 3: Charlie Regel.

1168
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 2: It's like when you think about where you go, when

1169
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 2: you think about the stops you've made, you've been, You've

1170
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 2: been everywhere from Auburn to Oregon to Memphis to Florida State.

1171
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: Now you're here, how often during a.

1172
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 2: Typical week or a month or a season, do you

1173
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 2: find yourself just drawn on random things that you experienced here,

1174
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 2: random things that this guy did there and it just

1175
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 2: it just fires like a memory would for a normal person.

1176
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 3: Constantly, like constantly, I mean every single situation that happens.

1177
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 3: I mean head coaches, your job is to put out fires,

1178
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 3: manage people, right, and every single day it's like this

1179
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 3: happened here, this happened here, he did this, He did

1180
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:30,800
Speaker 3: this like our leadership councils from Council Methodist from Gus Malson.

1181
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,800
Speaker 3: The way we practice pre practice is from Dan Lanning.

1182
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 3: The periods three through six are from Or three through

1183
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 3: eight are from Mike Norvel. Period two is from Dan Lanning,

1184
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:45,839
Speaker 3: Kirby Smart, Nick Saban, Like, it's constantly pulling from, you know,

1185
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 3: the rolodex of things that I've learned throughout working with

1186
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 3: really really successful people.

1187
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 2: So then the other part of that is you've got

1188
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,359
Speaker 2: things that you feel like are in your wheelhouse, and

1189
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 2: then you may have things that you know might.

1190
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 1: As well be Portuguese to you.

1191
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,240
Speaker 2: So a lot of head coaches don't have a background

1192
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:05,399
Speaker 2: in supports science, but yet you're responsible with hiring people

1193
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:06,359
Speaker 2: who are tasked.

1194
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 1: With carrying that out for you.

1195
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:10,839
Speaker 2: Strength, the conditioning, how you recover, like the analytical side

1196
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 2: all these things. How do you figure I know it's

1197
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 2: an ongoing process, but like, how do you figure out

1198
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 2: not only here's how I actually want that done, but

1199
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 2: now I got to interview people for those jobs, and

1200
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 2: those people know more about this job than I do.

1201
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,360
Speaker 2: But like, ultimately I'm going to have to answer for

1202
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 2: the results and whether we want to lose.

1203
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 3: That's the hardest part. Hardest part is when you don't

1204
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 3: know the nuances of what you're hiring. And I was

1205
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 3: told this from a guy I named Gus Esposito, who

1206
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 3: has been a very successful business man. He goes, you

1207
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:46,799
Speaker 3: don't need to know everything to know people. He said,

1208
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,799
Speaker 3: when you're hiring, you're not hiring somebody how intelligent they are,

1209
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 3: how smart they are, if they pass certain criteria to

1210
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 3: get in your room, they should.

1211
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 4: Have some knowledge on the subject and have the intelligence.

1212
00:56:57,920 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 3: You're hiring the person to fit your culture and your

1213
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,720
Speaker 3: program more than you're hiring what they can actually produce,

1214
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 3: because if they don't fit your culture in your program,

1215
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter what they know. So in those settings,

1216
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 3: that was always about is this person. Our three pillars

1217
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 3: are be a good person, make good decisions, have more fun,

1218
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 3: working harder than anybody in the country. When I get

1219
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 3: on and I meet you, do I feel like you're

1220
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 3: a good person?

1221
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 4: Right?

1222
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 3: Do I feel like you're somebody who's gonna make good decisions?

1223
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 1: Right?

1224
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 4: Are you dressed? How are you dressed for this interview?

1225
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 4: Does it matter to you?

1226
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 3: And then like are you smiling or is this a

1227
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 3: miserable because if it's miserable, you got no chance. Like

1228
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 3: I want people who are multipliers in our program. I

1229
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 3: don't care who you are. I want you to make

1230
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 3: the people around you better. So all of those hires

1231
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 3: were all about those three requirements. It wasn't as much

1232
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 3: about what they knew because I didn't know all that. Yeah,

1233
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:49,919
Speaker 3: I had to rely on people that interview this guy,

1234
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 3: interview this guy, interview you this guy. And then once

1235
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 3: we got him in the interview, it was you know,

1236
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 3: do you fit what we're trying to do here? Do

1237
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 3: you fit the overall culture of the program.

1238
00:57:57,680 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 2: When you walk through some of these buildings, it feels

1239
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 2: like very militaristic. When you walk through some other buildings,

1240
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 2: it's loose. I think if you walked through some of

1241
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 2: the more buttoned up, really really stuffy buildings, especially the

1242
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 2: ones that are successful, then you walk through one where

1243
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 2: a lot of people feel loose, they're having a good time.

1244
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 2: People would misconstrue that as weakness. Yes, how do you

1245
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 2: have that vibe? But then still go toe to toe

1246
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 2: and even beat the folks who really look buttoned up

1247
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 2: and they're all marching in a line, and it's, like

1248
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 2: I said, kind of militaristic. It's obvious that that's not

1249
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 2: the end all be all, because if it was, then

1250
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:37,439
Speaker 2: your way couldn't win.

1251
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 4: I think you have to be yourself.

1252
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 3: I think kids want to follow people and being a

1253
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 3: program that's genuine. So if my personality was military, was that, ye,

1254
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 3: then I better recruit to that. I better sign guys

1255
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 3: that want that, right and build a program like that.

1256
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 4: I am not like that. If I walked around like that,

1257
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 4: the guys would laugh at it because that's not me.

1258
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 3: Right, I'm the guy who's gonna tap you on the

1259
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 3: shoulder and then go the same way and say gotcha,

1260
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 3: because you're gonna look over the other shoulder. Right, I'm

1261
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:09,920
Speaker 3: the guy who's gonna crack a joke. And at the

1262
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 3: same time, you better be five minutes early, Like that's

1263
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 3: just a minimum standard. Like it's not hard to be early.

1264
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 3: It's not hard to do what you're supposed to do.

1265
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 3: That's why we're gonna have more fun working harder than

1266
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 3: anyone in the country. And when it comes to that,

1267
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 3: it's funny. We had a kid who transferred here who

1268
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 3: we had a recruit walking around and I was telling

1269
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 3: him have more fun working harder, that's one of our pillars,

1270
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 3: and he goes.

1271
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:31,959
Speaker 4: Hey, don't forget about that working harder part. That real

1272
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 4: out here we work twice as hard as my last school.

1273
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 3: And I think it's just you have to be genuine

1274
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 3: to who you are and then recruit.

1275
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 4: To your culture.

1276
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 3: You can't just say this guy's talented, we're gonna force

1277
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 3: this guy into what we do. It's you've got to

1278
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 3: recruit to your personality. You've got to recruit to the

1279
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 3: people that you like, that you genuinely like. We don't

1280
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 3: sign guys I don't like like. I better walk into

1281
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 3: the building. See one hundred and twenty kids that I

1282
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 3: enjoy because I'm around them all the time. They're family.

1283
00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 3: They're literally around me just as much as my family.

1284
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 2: So if I put a normal person in your position

1285
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 2: like that, you get into that point, but then I

1286
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 2: swap you out for a normal person, I think they'd

1287
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 2: get overwhelmed by the external stuff that comes along with winning.

1288
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 2: When you start winning, a lot more people pay attention

1289
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 2: to you, You sell a lot more tickets, you get

1290
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 2: a lot more requests. I come here and ask you, Hey,

1291
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 2: before your date tonight with your wife, can you sit

1292
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 2: down with me for about twenty or thirty minutes. I

1293
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 2: think a normal person would focus on everything but the

1294
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 2: task at hand. You're not ignoring any of the external

1295
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 2: But like, how big a challenge has it been? Maybe

1296
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 2: not for you, but you keeping your building focused on

1297
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 2: the task at hand or is it an afterthought?

1298
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 1: Everyone's focused on what they need.

1299
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 4: To I think it is a challenge.

1300
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 3: You know, when you're not used to success, right, any

1301
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 3: change is difficult.

1302
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 4: So when you go from okay.

1303
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 3: We're three and nine, three and nine, we're one of

1304
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 3: the worst programs in college football, let's call a spade

1305
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 3: a spade, Like, how are they ever going to win?

1306
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 3: They have NCAA sanctions, they can't go to a ball

1307
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 3: game last year, all this negative, this dark cloud of

1308
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 3: they can never cover.

1309
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 4: Then all of a sudden, it's.

1310
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 3: Like whoa yeahoo to say that that's not hard for

1311
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 3: your guys is real.

1312
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 1: Now.

1313
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 3: The challenge is, hopefully you've poured enough into do you

1314
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 3: really care what other people think? Because if you constantly

1315
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 3: care what other people think, whether it's football or life,

1316
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 3: you're never gonna be happy. You're gonna have a great day,

1317
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:22,919
Speaker 3: then you're gonna have a bad day. Then you're gonna

1318
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 3: have a great hour in a miserable hour. You better

1319
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 3: learn to accept who you are, Embrace who you are,

1320
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 3: love who you are, and just double down on you,

1321
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 3: and whoever likes you likes you, and whoever doesn't doesn't,

1322
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 3: and you walk around as the happiest person on earth.

1323
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 3: And those people who are making other people trying to

1324
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 3: twist and turn into what other people want, they're gonna

1325
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 3: be miserable. And you're gonna walk around with half the

1326
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 3: people loving you, half the people hating you, and you

1327
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 3: still don't care. And I think that's hopefully the vision

1328
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 3: that we've set for these guys.

1329
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 4: Is who cares school be the best version of us.

1330
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 1: And repeat Kenny Dillan Man, we appreciate that. Thank you

1331
01:01:57,880 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 1: so much.

1332
01:01:58,320 --> 01:01:58,920
Speaker 4: I appreciate it.

1333
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 1: Bringing me on Arizona State. We'll be on the sidelines

1334
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 1: for this one.

1335
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 2: This Saturday, check it out, and we appreciate you guys

1336
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:07,320
Speaker 2: watching in general. We'll be back in Nashville Sunday night,

1337
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 2: reacting to it all for sir Kenny here, for myself,

1338
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 2: for Colin and Jesse back in Nashville for gelbye right

1339
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 2: behind the camera here, I'm Josh, Faith, take care, have

1340
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 2: a great weekend.

1341
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 1: Thank God blessed.

1342
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 2: Sign up for FanDuel at FanDuel dot com backslash CFB

1343
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 2: promotion must be twenty one plus and present in select

1344
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 2: states for Kansas in affiliation with Kansas Star Casino, or

1345
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 2: eighteen plus and present in Washington, DC. First online real

1346
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:44,920
Speaker 2: money wager only ten dollars first deposit required. Bonus issued

1347
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 2: is non withdrawable bonus bet that expires seven days after receipt.

1348
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 2: Do you have a gambling problem? If so, call one

1349
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 2: eight hundred gambler or visitfanduel dot com backslash RG call

1350
01:02:56,960 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 2: one eight eight eight seven eight nine seven seven seven seven,

1351
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 2: or visit CCPG dot org backslash chat in Connecticut, or

1352
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 2: visit MD Gamblinghelp dot org. In Maryland, Hope is here,

1353
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 2: visit Gambling Heelplinema dot org or call eight hundred three

1354
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 2: two seven fifty fifty for twenty four seven support in

1355
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:19,920
Speaker 2: Massachusetts or call one eight seven seven eight Hope n Y.

1356
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 2: Or text h O p E n Y in New

1357
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 2: York