WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: School's Out 0:00:03.480 --> 0:00:06.199 I get everybody on Dan Horde and thanks for downloading 0:00:06.200 --> 0:00:13.920 the Bengals Booth Podcast. The schools out for summer. Addition, 0:00:14.320 --> 0:00:17.320 as the Bengals wrap up their mandatory mini camp earlier 0:00:17.320 --> 0:00:19.880 than expected, meeting the next time we'll see the players 0:00:19.880 --> 0:00:23.440 in uniform as a training camp in late July. Coming up, 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:26.640 you'll hear from three people. Number one draft picked Jamar Chase, 0:00:26.880 --> 0:00:31.960 second year linebacker Logan Wilson, and by broadcast partner Dave Lapham. 0:00:32.000 --> 0:00:35.480 The Bengals Booth Podcast is presented by bud Light. Seltzer 0:00:35.560 --> 0:00:38.559 refreshed the game and here's a quick reminder that you 0:00:38.560 --> 0:00:41.599 can have the latest edition of this podcast delivered right 0:00:41.640 --> 0:00:45.560 to your phone, tablet, or computer by subscribing on iTunes, Stitch, 0:00:45.560 --> 0:00:49.479 your Google Play, Spotify, or pod Bean. It's the greatest 0:00:49.479 --> 0:00:55.280 thing since old guys shooting hoops at the gym. I 0:00:55.400 --> 0:00:58.840 belong to a local fitness club. My physique provides ample 0:00:58.880 --> 0:01:02.240 evidence that my attention said said club isn't great. But 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:04.840 one thing that inspires me to drag my butt in 0:01:04.880 --> 0:01:07.679 there as often as possible is seeing a handful of 0:01:07.720 --> 0:01:12.120 elderly guys who regularly shoot hoops. I'm guessing that some 0:01:12.480 --> 0:01:16.160 are in their eighties. There's not much running and jumping involved, 0:01:16.280 --> 0:01:19.400 which is how I played in my teens. But they're 0:01:19.400 --> 0:01:22.959 out there having fun and staying active. I should probably 0:01:23.000 --> 0:01:27.520 start working on my set shot. Now, let's get to football. 0:01:28.200 --> 0:01:30.600 When aj Green was still with the Bengals, he used 0:01:30.640 --> 0:01:33.880 to host a youth football camp in Cincinnati, and one 0:01:33.920 --> 0:01:36.080 of the teammates he brought with him at the start 0:01:36.080 --> 0:01:40.280 of that player's NFL career was Joe Mixon. Now Joe 0:01:40.319 --> 0:01:43.240 hosts his own football camp, and last weekend he brought 0:01:43.240 --> 0:01:45.920 a rookie out to meet the campers, number one draft 0:01:45.920 --> 0:01:49.200 pick Jamar Chase. I'm sure it was quite a thrill 0:01:49.280 --> 0:01:51.760 for the hundreds of youngsters that attended the camp last 0:01:51.800 --> 0:01:54.640 weekend at Sycamore High School, and I caught up with 0:01:54.680 --> 0:01:58.480 a rookie wide receiver out of LSU. Got a couple 0:01:58.600 --> 0:02:01.480 hundred kids here, leasually get a thrill out of meeting 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:05.440 somebody like you. What does this do for you? It just, 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:07.160 you know, it shows that you know, I have a 0:02:07.240 --> 0:02:08.600 humble heart. You know I want to get back to 0:02:08.600 --> 0:02:10.960 the community. You know, show that I'm willing, you know, 0:02:11.040 --> 0:02:14.200 show support. So you know, it's it's just good will. 0:02:14.880 --> 0:02:18.839 It's Joe Mixon's camp. Did Joe reach out and say, hey, ruck, 0:02:19.080 --> 0:02:22.760 can you help a brother out? Joe did kind of 0:02:22.840 --> 0:02:24.160 hit me up, you know, he told me, you know, 0:02:24.200 --> 0:02:25.840 to come out here and have a little fun with him. 0:02:25.880 --> 0:02:28.160 So I decided to come show and show some love. 0:02:28.800 --> 0:02:31.880 Did you ever meet a professional athlete when you were 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:35.360 these kids age? I don't think I did. I don't 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:37.120 think I did, but I wish I would have. I 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:39.680 wish I would have. What would it have done for 0:02:39.720 --> 0:02:42.280 you at that age? I don't know. I'd probably just 0:02:42.360 --> 0:02:45.320 been excited and had asked a bunch of questions. I 0:02:45.400 --> 0:02:47.799 think that would have been my goal to what kind 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:49.920 of message do you give kids when you have the 0:02:49.960 --> 0:02:54.080 opportunity to talk to them? UM? My message to the kids, 0:02:54.320 --> 0:02:56.880 you know, still be a kid as you're a kid now. 0:02:56.960 --> 0:02:59.040 You know your life will go by fast and you 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:02.040 won't know UM, but you know, have fun and live 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:04.280 the life that you're in right now at the moment. 0:03:04.280 --> 0:03:06.280 And I know you might not understand it, but you know, 0:03:06.400 --> 0:03:07.880 have all the fun that you can right now at 0:03:07.880 --> 0:03:10.799 the moment. Let's talk about Bengals Camp. So far, you've 0:03:10.800 --> 0:03:13.560 had three weeks of OTAs. What have been your impressions 0:03:13.560 --> 0:03:16.360 of your teammates and Joe Burrow in particular. Yeah, I 0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:18.560 think right now we're going to be We're doing a 0:03:18.600 --> 0:03:20.839 little good. We're getting everything back in motion. I feel 0:03:20.880 --> 0:03:22.679 like the offense getting a little better with the with 0:03:22.840 --> 0:03:26.280 the offensive signs and whatever else we've got going on. 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:28.760 But for the most part, I can't wait till we 0:03:28.760 --> 0:03:31.040 get at it, you know, really see what competing is 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:33.440 with the other guys and the defense, and we all 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:35.680 see how that plays apart. Have you've been excited by 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:38.280 the fact that Joe has been out there basically doing 0:03:38.360 --> 0:03:42.000 everything this soon since his injury. I'm excited that I'm 0:03:42.120 --> 0:03:44.520 on the field with Joe right now still, so of 0:03:44.560 --> 0:03:46.240 course I'm excited for him to be back. You know 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:49.440 it just you know, it brings everybody else's energy to 0:03:49.440 --> 0:03:51.440 see Joe on the field, you know, practicing with us. 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:54.400 Even though you two guys had two years together at LSU, 0:03:54.520 --> 0:03:58.080 we've seen you after practices getting an extra work with him. 0:03:58.400 --> 0:04:01.320 Why um, that show work is always going to come, 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:03.080 you know, you never know when you might need it. 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:05.720 So we gotta be p pefet in situation, especially in 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:08.720 the NFL now so you know, that's just old old 0:04:08.760 --> 0:04:10.480 me and Joe getting out work together, make a show. 0:04:10.480 --> 0:04:13.320 We're on the same page. Looking around the NFL, there 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:16.359 are several teams that have just maybe half of the roster, 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:19.440 even less than that at their voluntary camps. The Bengals 0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:22.320 have had perfect attendance. What has that meant to you 0:04:22.440 --> 0:04:24.680 and the other guys on the team. It means a 0:04:24.720 --> 0:04:26.599 lot to me and the rest of the guys, you know, 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:28.279 showing that you know, we want to work, we need 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:30.040 to get better, so we all need to be here 0:04:30.040 --> 0:04:32.520 at one time. And I think that's the reason why 0:04:32.520 --> 0:04:36.240 we all in attendance. The Bengals receiving corps were atted 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:41.240 you to, Tyler Boyd, T Higgins, etc. How good is 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:45.040 this group? This group is amazing right now. Man, there's 0:04:45.120 --> 0:04:47.720 so much work we're putting in at the moment. We 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:51.320 still have a long journey to go through. Um you know, 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:53.800 but you know, I can't, I can't. I don't even 0:04:53.839 --> 0:04:55.839 know what to say. I'm just excited to see what 0:04:55.920 --> 0:04:57.599 we all can do on the field. At the same time, 0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:01.440 kids are out here today sweating on a hot Cincinnati day. 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:03.880 Does this feel like you're back home in Louisiana. It 0:05:03.920 --> 0:05:06.400 does almost it almost feels back home. You know the signs. 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:09.559 I'll feel bright, so as sunny as heck. The team 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:12.280 has a mandatory camp coming up this week. You'll go 0:05:12.360 --> 0:05:15.760 through that. Then what happens for you between that and 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:19.160 the start of real training camp in July. Yeah, just 0:05:19.279 --> 0:05:21.320 make sure I stand in consistent shape, you know, make 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:25.000 sure I keep my hands clean and making sure I'm 0:05:25.040 --> 0:05:26.560 on top of my fundamentals that i need to make 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:28.839 sure I'm on top of so that I'll play a 0:05:28.880 --> 0:05:31.640 part in the long run as a rookie. Are you 0:05:31.680 --> 0:05:34.640 just trying to blend in with the veterans right now 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:36.600 and kind of you know, do your job, work hard, 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:41.200 not say much or is that not your personality. I'm 0:05:41.240 --> 0:05:42.920 all a blend in type, but you know, I want 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:44.840 to stand out while I'm blending in. You know that's 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:47.240 always up going about things, and I want to, you know, 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:50.160 stand out while I'm blending at the same time, appreciate 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:52.320 your time. Thanks for being out here for these kids today. 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:55.960 Thank you. You know what was nice about that interview 0:05:56.440 --> 0:06:00.240 It was done in person. Due to the pandemic. I 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:03.280 still haven't met Joe Burrow T Higgins or the other 0:06:03.320 --> 0:06:06.560 members of last year's rookie class face to face. I've 0:06:06.600 --> 0:06:08.800 talked to them on the phone and on zoom calls, 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:11.800 but thanks to vaccinations, it's going to be nice going 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:15.279 forward to introduce myself again and get to know guys 0:06:15.320 --> 0:06:18.560 on a more individual basis. Now time to hear from 0:06:18.600 --> 0:06:21.360 one of those guys from last year's rookie class, third 0:06:21.440 --> 0:06:25.760 round draft pick Logan Wilson. Last year, Josh Bines took 0:06:25.800 --> 0:06:29.440 the most snaps on defense of any Bengals linebacker. He 0:06:29.480 --> 0:06:32.159 was on the field about seventy two percent of the time. 0:06:32.800 --> 0:06:35.680 Since the Bengals elected not to re sign Bines, who 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:39.279 turns thirty two in August, Wilson figures to slide into 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:44.240 that starting spot in the middle of the Bengals defense. Logan, 0:06:44.279 --> 0:06:47.080 the offseason after your rookie year was probably the first 0:06:47.120 --> 0:06:49.880 time in several years you've had a significant chunk of 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:54.080 time off, no school, no getting ready for the combine. 0:06:54.279 --> 0:06:56.240 How was it and what did you do with your 0:06:56.240 --> 0:06:59.600 time off? I was very, very nice just to kind 0:06:59.600 --> 0:07:05.880 of have some time to relax um My fiance well, 0:07:05.920 --> 0:07:08.120 prior to the off season starting, she wasn't my fiance, 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:11.600 but during the off season, we got engaged and we 0:07:11.600 --> 0:07:13.920 were back at the University of Wyoming. She was finishing 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:16.000 up her student teaching, so we kind of spent most 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:18.800 of our time down there, and then we got a 0:07:18.840 --> 0:07:23.400 house back in Casper, a hometown. So, um it was 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:26.880 a really good off season and we used to had 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:30.000 some time left, you know, after mini camps will head 0:07:30.000 --> 0:07:32.120 back out there. But it was it was good, to 0:07:32.120 --> 0:07:36.600 say the least. Congratulations on the engagement. I saw that 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:40.120 you posted the footage on Instagram. You dropped down to 0:07:40.400 --> 0:07:44.320 me at the football stadium on a snowy, snow covered field. 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:48.480 You got the video board operator involved. You did it upright. Yeah. 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:51.960 I talked to some of the meeting guys that worked 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:54.840 there that um I knew from my time there, and 0:07:54.880 --> 0:07:56.960 they helped me set up. They did all the graphic 0:07:57.000 --> 0:07:59.480 and everything. I just sent them the pictures and told 0:07:59.520 --> 0:08:02.040 them what the it on it, and um yeah, it 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:04.720 was it was very very helpful that they did that 0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:07.960 for me. And then it was a It was funny 0:08:07.960 --> 0:08:11.600 because seriously thought that it wasn't gonna be a m 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:13.160 She thought it was an interview for me, and then 0:08:13.160 --> 0:08:16.160 I just wanted her to come along just for some 0:08:16.200 --> 0:08:20.640 pictures purposes, and um, we tricked her. So well done, 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:23.760 very well done. We're talking to Bengals linebacker Logan Wilson. 0:08:24.320 --> 0:08:26.280 So when I've talked to some players in the past 0:08:26.360 --> 0:08:29.800 after the rookie year, some guys have said I needed 0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:34.560 to get stronger after seeing NFL competition, or I needed 0:08:34.559 --> 0:08:38.280 to get leaner, whatever it might be. Did you feel 0:08:38.320 --> 0:08:43.360 anything along those lines? Truthfully, not really. Um. You know, 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:45.960 I feel like the size I'm at and the weight 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:48.160 i'm at I've been at for the last few years, 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:51.200 and I feel pretty good. I think there's always room 0:08:51.280 --> 0:08:54.760 to get stronger, you know, Like I definitely got weaker 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:56.280 towards the end of the season. I feel like that's 0:08:56.320 --> 0:09:00.520 kind of natural. Um, you know, when you're not lifting 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:04.760 heavyweights all the time. So I definitely put some muscle 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:07.800 back on this offseason, which was a point of mine. 0:09:07.840 --> 0:09:11.040 I went well since we were back in Wyoming Leary, Wyoming, 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:13.079 back at the university. I just trained with my strength 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:17.600 coach from my time there and just kind of did 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:20.520 the work as I did in college. And I put 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:22.440 some weight on and now I'm back down to where 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:24.920 I was at. So you missed the last three games 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:27.280 last year with an ankle injury. How bad was it 0:09:27.360 --> 0:09:30.480 and when were you fully recovered? Oh? Man, it was 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:35.200 it was tough. It was just Um, I mean, there 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:37.000 was a high ankle sprain and those things just take 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:39.520 so long to heal because I just don't get as 0:09:39.640 --> 0:09:42.080 much blood flow so far away from the heart, and 0:09:42.120 --> 0:09:45.720 so it was it was tough. You know, I don't know. 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:49.800 I've got rehab on it for probably three months after 0:09:49.840 --> 0:09:54.080 the season, Um, maybe four really, I mean it took 0:09:54.120 --> 0:09:57.680 forever to seriously heal. Um. I had some stuff in 0:09:57.720 --> 0:10:01.920 the back portion of my ankle that needed to work 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:04.560 its way out, and just so sadly it's take just 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:07.719 takes time sometimes, So it took it definitely took its 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:12.719 time healing. But everything is fine now. Yes, yes, yeah, 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:15.960 just took its time for basically until, like I want 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:19.160 to say, until by April. We're talking to Logan Wilson. 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:22.640 I imagine any player's first year in the NFL is 0:10:22.679 --> 0:10:26.520 pretty crazy. Was there anything that was even tougher than 0:10:26.520 --> 0:10:31.480 you thought it would be? Um? I think just playing 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:35.280 against professional offensive lineman. I think, I mean they're just 0:10:35.640 --> 0:10:39.600 guys that big, that move that fast is freaky going 0:10:39.640 --> 0:10:42.760 against them. All the time, and it was definitely crazy 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:46.720 year obviously with COVID, and I think it was really weird, truthfully, 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:49.600 playing in front of no fans, just fake crowd noise, 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:52.480 and um, I don't know, I've never done that in 0:10:52.559 --> 0:10:54.880 my entire life, ever played a football game in front 0:10:54.880 --> 0:10:57.840 of zero fans, even when I was playing major football 0:10:57.840 --> 0:11:00.600 back in Wyoming. We still I used to your parents 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:04.040 and family and friends, and so it was definitely weird. 0:11:05.000 --> 0:11:08.120 On the flip side, was there anything easier than you 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:11.599 thought it would be? You know, I don't even I 0:11:11.640 --> 0:11:13.280 don't know if if there was anything. I knew it 0:11:13.280 --> 0:11:15.240 was going to be a challenge regardless, you know, and 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:20.040 I there's just so much that goes into it, and 0:11:20.640 --> 0:11:26.240 especially having no like in person anything until training camp, 0:11:26.360 --> 0:11:28.080 so we're just trying to learn the system I knew 0:11:28.080 --> 0:11:30.000 there was. I mean, it was definitely tough learned system 0:11:30.040 --> 0:11:33.920 just with Zoom, you know, not being able to actually 0:11:33.960 --> 0:11:35.680 go out there. And I think that for me that 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:39.720 was hard because I I learned best like going out 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:42.120 there and then making a mistake and understanding why I 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:44.720 made that mistake and then trying not to make that 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:46.760 same mistake again. If that makes sense, and so that 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:51.280 was definitely tough. You sound pretty excited to go through 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:54.160 an NFL season when things are back to normal, or 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:57.520 at least close to it. Yeah, I mean it'll feel 0:11:58.040 --> 0:11:59.720 like some sense of normal. Say, I feel like last 0:11:59.760 --> 0:12:02.640 year it's just like I said, it's just it was 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:04.880 just so weird, you know, going out there, or then 0:12:04.880 --> 0:12:10.280 there's like limited fans in certain stadiums and it's just 0:12:10.400 --> 0:12:13.040 not anything you would expect to hear, you know. But 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:17.040 also so much happened with COVID. No one expected any 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:19.560 of that stuff to happen. So those kind of the 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:22.679 way of twenty twenty. So to say, um, but yeah, 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:26.760 I'm definitely looking forward to having full capacity um in 0:12:26.880 --> 0:12:30.440 stadiums in the fall. We're visiting with Logan Wilson. In 0:12:30.640 --> 0:12:33.280 free agency. This offseason, the Bengal spent a lot of 0:12:33.320 --> 0:12:37.319 money on defense, Trey Hendrickson and Larry Ogan Joby upfront, 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:40.880 Shuitabaya Wouge and Mike Hilton among the guys in the secondary. 0:12:41.080 --> 0:12:44.560 Then in the draft they drafted for defensive linemen, but 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:48.400 they did not add linebackers in free agency or the draft. 0:12:48.960 --> 0:12:51.320 What did that say to you about how they feel 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:54.400 about the position group. UM, I think they feel they 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:57.240 feel very strong about us. UM. We brought back obviously 0:12:57.320 --> 0:13:00.400 brought back Jordan Evans too, and I think we have 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:03.720 a very strong linebackers group and they were very smart 0:13:03.760 --> 0:13:06.120 and we've kind of have a year under belt under 0:13:06.120 --> 0:13:08.200 our belt to understand the system and what needs to 0:13:08.200 --> 0:13:11.280 be done. So, you know, I think that that kind 0:13:11.280 --> 0:13:14.160 of speaks for itself. How do you expect your role 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:17.480 to change and grow? I would just say that I'm 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:19.559 you know, I want to kind of be the guy 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:21.360 that kind of runs the show now step in where 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:26.600 Bynes was, so to say, you know, Bynes was, I 0:13:26.600 --> 0:13:29.199 couldn't have asked for a better linebacker truthfully, to learn 0:13:29.240 --> 0:13:33.120 under he was like a walking football library. So you know, 0:13:33.160 --> 0:13:36.520 I'm just gonna try to make my own mark, you know, 0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:38.200 on this team and just kind of do what needs 0:13:38.200 --> 0:13:40.120 to be done for to help us with football games. 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:43.320 That's kind of my goal. You've been here for a 0:13:43.320 --> 0:13:46.160 few weeks with the voluntary spring practices and now the 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:50.000 mandatory mini camp is happening this week. Has anything stood 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:53.240 out to you about the practices that you've been through 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:56.160 so far. I mean, it's hard to say, truthfully, nothing's 0:13:56.200 --> 0:14:00.959 been like full speed competition, you know, so, UM, you know, 0:14:01.000 --> 0:14:04.839 it's definitely nice having there's definitely some fresh faces on defense. UM, 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:07.520 and it's kind of exciting to see the guys we 0:14:07.600 --> 0:14:09.360 brought in in free agency and the guys that we 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:12.880 brought in in the draft. UM, seeing guys like Trey Henderson, 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:15.800 Trey Wayne's back out there, you know, after not being 0:14:15.840 --> 0:14:18.440 able to play last year. UM, it's nice to see 0:14:18.760 --> 0:14:21.840 see those guys around on the field. How fired up 0:14:21.880 --> 0:14:24.240 were you to see Joe Burrow out there in day one? 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:27.760 That is good? It was really I mean, obviously he's 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:30.960 he's a leader of a franchise, so UM, anytime he's 0:14:30.960 --> 0:14:33.920 out there, it's just kind of a blessing to be 0:14:33.920 --> 0:14:36.800 able to watch him play. And you know, obviously, UM, 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:39.680 he's a very good player. And you know, as his 0:14:39.720 --> 0:14:42.280 knee continues to heal, hopefully gets back two hundred percent 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:44.760 and you know, I don't know the the in depth 0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:50.240 about all his rehab process, but it seems like he's 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:53.160 doing really well, and UM, we're definitely are hoping to 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:55.760 have him out there for the season. You guys have 0:14:55.840 --> 0:15:00.760 had perfect attendance basically for voluntary OTAs and that has 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:03.360 not been the case around the NFL. The players union 0:15:03.440 --> 0:15:07.320 actually encourage you guys to skip if you wanted to. 0:15:08.200 --> 0:15:10.360 What did that say to you? And how significant do 0:15:10.400 --> 0:15:13.600 you think it is that everybody has been here? I mean, 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:18.560 it's definitely significant. Our leaders kind of talk, negotiated, so 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:21.880 to say, with coach Taylor, and figured out a plan 0:15:21.960 --> 0:15:23.880 for us to come back and then and be able 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:26.920 to kind of protect us from getting injured. So I 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:30.240 think that's why a lot of guys came back for it. 0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:33.280 And obviously, you know, we didn't have the kind of 0:15:33.280 --> 0:15:34.760 a year as we would have liked to last year, 0:15:34.760 --> 0:15:36.120 and so we know that there's work to do, and 0:15:36.160 --> 0:15:38.760 that's kind of what our everyone's mindset was in terms 0:15:38.800 --> 0:15:40.560 of why we needed to come back and get some 0:15:41.040 --> 0:15:44.640 get some some sort of work in. How fired up 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:48.520 are you for your second NFL season? I'm definitely excited. 0:15:48.640 --> 0:15:51.160 You know, there's gonna be new challenges that present itself, 0:15:51.240 --> 0:15:54.560 but that's life in general, and you know, how you 0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:56.600 attack adversity, it kind of says a lot about you 0:15:56.600 --> 0:15:58.840 and your character, and so I helped myself to a 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:01.840 very high standard. You know, I'm excited to see what 0:16:01.920 --> 0:16:05.920 we can do on defense and then as a team, 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:08.760 so it'll be a very fun year and hopefully, like 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:12.119 I said, get some sense of normalcy with some full stadiums. 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:14.240 We are looking forward to seeing you in the middle 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:18.760 of the defense. Congratulations again on the offseason engagement, Stay 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:20.920 healthy in twenty twenty one, and thanks for the time. 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:25.440 Thank you very much. The Bengals Booth Podcast is presented 0:16:25.480 --> 0:16:28.640 by Bud Light Seltzer. It's light and refreshing with a 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:32.240 hint of fruit flavor. We expected the Bengals to have 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:34.720 a three day minicamp this week, but it ended after 0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:37.800 day one as head cood Zach Taylor sent the players 0:16:37.840 --> 0:16:41.160 home for their summer vacation early. It was partly a 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:45.360 reward for perfect attendance during the nine voluntary practices, but 0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:49.240 Taylor also apparently dangled the possibility of an early break 0:16:49.600 --> 0:16:53.280 as incentive for the players to get vaccinated. Like Major 0:16:53.320 --> 0:16:56.080 League Baseball, it appears that the NFL is going to 0:16:56.200 --> 0:16:59.800 use eighty five percent of the roster being vaccinated as 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:04.520 benchmark for relaxing COVID protocols. Eighty five percent of a 0:17:04.640 --> 0:17:08.119 ninety man roster would be seventy six point five and 0:17:08.240 --> 0:17:10.639 it appears that the Bengals are among a handful of 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:15.280 teams with more than seventy players vaccinated. Now time to 0:17:15.320 --> 0:17:20.280 discuss that and much more with my broadcast partner Dave Lapham. 0:17:20.400 --> 0:17:22.600 Lap Let's start with Zach Taylor's decision to end the 0:17:22.640 --> 0:17:25.720 three day mandatory minicamp after just one practice and send 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:29.119 everybody home until training camp in late July. You played 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:31.960 for Paul Brown and Forrest greg How do you react 0:17:32.000 --> 0:17:35.480 to this news. Well, if the two guys you mentioned, 0:17:35.560 --> 0:17:38.960 I could see Paul Brown doing it potentially. Paul Brown 0:17:39.080 --> 0:17:40.800 was a guy that if you got your work done 0:17:40.840 --> 0:17:44.280 and he felt like things were in good order, he 0:17:44.320 --> 0:17:46.400 never really had you out in the field for long 0:17:46.480 --> 0:17:50.080 pirds of time and didn't really beat you up. Forrest Gregg, 0:17:50.119 --> 0:17:51.520 in the other hand, you know, he has a Vince 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:55.080 Lombardi disciples. I'm sure we would have been out there, 0:17:55.280 --> 0:17:59.400 maybe even longer. He would have taken every minute that 0:17:59.520 --> 0:18:02.119 he would have been allowed. But it was I think 0:18:02.880 --> 0:18:06.199 when you look at it, Dan, they the reward that 0:18:06.320 --> 0:18:09.600 that carrot that Zack dangled out that the guys really 0:18:09.600 --> 0:18:12.800 appreciated was they showed up, you know, they had I 0:18:12.800 --> 0:18:15.439 don't think there's anybody in the league that can claim 0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:18.840 the success the Bengals had with OTA's and got a 0:18:18.880 --> 0:18:22.800 lot of work done. And so I figured, what the 0:18:22.840 --> 0:18:26.919 heck had had a bunch of good workouts, that a 0:18:26.960 --> 0:18:29.439 lot of guys on the field working together, you know, 0:18:29.480 --> 0:18:34.880 advancing uh, mentally and physically. Let's um, let's just use 0:18:34.960 --> 0:18:37.720 this Wednesday and Thursday as at least today. I know 0:18:37.800 --> 0:18:41.000 today there's probably quite a few guys down there getting vaccinated. 0:18:41.520 --> 0:18:45.040 They were a handful, maybe a few more guys short 0:18:45.080 --> 0:18:48.359 of getting that eighty five percent, they're right there. So 0:18:48.520 --> 0:18:51.600 if they can get that done and uh and say, 0:18:51.640 --> 0:18:54.960 you know here, here's here's the incentive. Shut down the 0:18:55.080 --> 0:18:57.800 last two days you guys. See, we can get a 0:18:57.840 --> 0:19:01.040 few more guys vaccinated and make it easier with the 0:19:01.040 --> 0:19:04.000 protocols or training camp. Because my understanding is the protocols, 0:19:04.000 --> 0:19:07.320 the guys that won't be vaccinated, they're still gonna have 0:19:07.320 --> 0:19:09.680 to get tested every day. They're gonna have to wear masks, 0:19:09.720 --> 0:19:11.760 all that kind of thing. I mean, it's it's gonna 0:19:11.760 --> 0:19:13.840 be kind of like the scarlet letter. Oh there's wine, 0:19:13.880 --> 0:19:16.400 he's gonna mast on, you know. It's like, so it's 0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:19.440 gonna it's gonna be a very interesting, very interesting dynamic 0:19:19.600 --> 0:19:24.000 all that unfold. So I bet, I bet there's a 0:19:24.040 --> 0:19:27.760 few guys down there today being Wednesday, getting their getting 0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:30.840 their vaccinations. I wouldn't be surprised. Yeah, no doubt about it. 0:19:30.840 --> 0:19:33.440 And it sounds like the decision to end the camp 0:19:33.480 --> 0:19:36.440 after one day was definitely tied to that vaccination level. 0:19:36.920 --> 0:19:39.440 The Washington Post reported this week that more than half 0:19:39.440 --> 0:19:43.800 of NFL teams have at least fifty vaccinated players. Three 0:19:43.920 --> 0:19:47.680 teams have seventy or more. Four teams have a very 0:19:47.760 --> 0:19:51.200 low number, the Colds, the Jags, the Cardinals, and the Chargers. 0:19:51.400 --> 0:19:53.760 I'm assuming the Bengals are one of the three teams 0:19:53.760 --> 0:19:57.720 that have seventy or more. Based on this decision, and 0:19:57.760 --> 0:20:00.639 as you were saying, I mean, even thing as simple 0:20:00.640 --> 0:20:03.880 as being able to eat in the cafeteria if you're vaccinated, 0:20:04.080 --> 0:20:06.440 as opposed to you know, grabbing a box lunch and 0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:08.280 eating it in front of your locker. All of those 0:20:08.320 --> 0:20:11.480 little things make a big difference in a group of 0:20:11.800 --> 0:20:14.920 you know, what ultimately is going to be ninety guys 0:20:14.920 --> 0:20:18.439 in training camp. There's no doubt, Dan, and uh, you 0:20:18.480 --> 0:20:22.639 know just here listening to uh you know Sports on 0:20:22.880 --> 0:20:27.119 ESPN this morning, Chris Paul tested positive and they're not 0:20:27.160 --> 0:20:30.040 sure if he's been vaccinated or not. That hasn't been 0:20:30.440 --> 0:20:33.080 made public. But if he's been vaccinated, he's going to 0:20:33.160 --> 0:20:36.119 be quarantined for a much shorter time than if he wasn't. 0:20:36.640 --> 0:20:38.399 And that's right in the middle of the playoffs. And 0:20:38.680 --> 0:20:40.840 you know, that's the thing. It can it can linger 0:20:40.880 --> 0:20:44.359 on all of a sudden, You lose a guy or 0:20:44.400 --> 0:20:48.119 maybe more than one guy for a critical division game 0:20:48.160 --> 0:20:52.080 against Baltimore or Cleveland at some point during the season, 0:20:52.320 --> 0:20:56.000 or you know everything's going along smoothly through training camp, 0:20:56.040 --> 0:20:57.800 then all of a sudden, you get a positive test 0:20:57.880 --> 0:21:00.320 right before the opener and it starts to mess with 0:21:00.359 --> 0:21:03.880 your roster. And those kind of things are nightmares for coaches. 0:21:03.920 --> 0:21:09.160 So the after effect, the hangover from COVID nineteen isn't 0:21:09.560 --> 0:21:12.639 isn't gone yet. They're still suffering through you know, some 0:21:12.720 --> 0:21:15.880 of that hangover for sure. So we learned on Tuesday 0:21:15.920 --> 0:21:19.359 that offensive lineman Hakima Dentagy has a torn pectoral muscle 0:21:19.359 --> 0:21:21.879 that required surgery. He's going to be out for months, 0:21:22.040 --> 0:21:26.200 maybe the entire season. How big of a blow is this, Yeah, 0:21:26.320 --> 0:21:29.720 it's it's it's almost unbelievable to me that Trey Waynes 0:21:29.960 --> 0:21:33.240 and now Adenogy back to back season, same thing lifting 0:21:33.280 --> 0:21:37.840 weights and identagis lifting weight soft site is my understanding, 0:21:37.840 --> 0:21:40.320 you know, had had had the injury, had the problem. 0:21:40.800 --> 0:21:42.560 I don't know if it was the bench press, simple 0:21:42.640 --> 0:21:44.919 bench press routine like Trey Waynes was doing, but it 0:21:45.000 --> 0:21:47.679 was something you know involved in the chest, dumbells or 0:21:47.720 --> 0:21:51.399 free weights or whatever. M's It's sad really because I 0:21:51.760 --> 0:21:55.320 think I think he's he's got a bright future. I 0:21:55.400 --> 0:21:57.080 don't think this is going to be something that he 0:21:57.119 --> 0:21:59.399 won't be able to recover from. But I think he 0:21:59.440 --> 0:22:01.920 would have been a very valuable candidate for that left 0:22:01.920 --> 0:22:04.679 guard position. And now all of a sudden, you know 0:22:04.720 --> 0:22:08.160 they're they're one less person competing for that left guard spot. 0:22:08.240 --> 0:22:10.320 I think I think the other four spots are pretty 0:22:10.400 --> 0:22:13.439 much not cement cemented, but I think they have a 0:22:13.480 --> 0:22:15.399 pretty good idea of the way at least they're going 0:22:15.440 --> 0:22:18.439 to line up initially and uh, and then it's kind 0:22:18.480 --> 0:22:20.200 of a free for all at that left guard spot. 0:22:20.840 --> 0:22:23.160 Um and the denis you won't be won't be part 0:22:23.200 --> 0:22:26.399 of that, and you know, early to lose the season 0:22:26.680 --> 0:22:28.840 this early in your career too, you know, when you're 0:22:28.880 --> 0:22:32.600 just starting through that developmental process. He's the raw tools 0:22:32.640 --> 0:22:35.720 in terms of we've talked about his footwork, and you know, 0:22:35.720 --> 0:22:38.000 he's got pretty good hand placed been pretty good punch 0:22:38.080 --> 0:22:40.160 and all the all those kind of things are great. Boy, 0:22:40.240 --> 0:22:42.879 there's nothing like you know, getting reps and when you 0:22:43.080 --> 0:22:46.760 start to miss reps after having the you know, the 0:22:46.800 --> 0:22:49.280 first few blocks of the foundation are there from your 0:22:49.359 --> 0:22:51.920 rookie year. And like I've said many times, I know 0:22:52.000 --> 0:22:53.200 it was the case for me. I know it is 0:22:53.240 --> 0:22:54.840 a case for a lot of teammates and guys that 0:22:54.880 --> 0:22:58.399 I played against year one to year two. Man's well, 0:22:58.520 --> 0:23:01.800 it's a whole new world. Your eyes open up a 0:23:01.920 --> 0:23:04.760 much different perspective. But what the heck you're you know, 0:23:04.840 --> 0:23:06.840 you're looking at and you're trying to get accomplished and 0:23:06.880 --> 0:23:10.320 how to go about accomplishing it. That's for sure. Assuming 0:23:10.359 --> 0:23:14.000 he did not win the starting left guard spot that 0:23:14.000 --> 0:23:17.800 that goes to a veteran like Quentin Spain or suet Philo, 0:23:18.320 --> 0:23:20.520 would he have then been more likely to be one 0:23:20.520 --> 0:23:24.040 of the top guys in the tackle depth. Yeah, I 0:23:24.080 --> 0:23:27.119 think I think that that he's a guy that is 0:23:27.720 --> 0:23:31.399 somebody that's capable of playing you know, right and left side, 0:23:31.600 --> 0:23:34.000 both inside and outside. I think he's got that type 0:23:34.000 --> 0:23:38.960 of you know, that type of mentality, that type of ability. 0:23:39.760 --> 0:23:44.399 I do know that I did mention what desk strength 0:23:44.440 --> 0:23:45.639 about him? You know, what do you what do you 0:23:45.680 --> 0:23:49.000 think of a chem identity? And this was obviously before 0:23:49.040 --> 0:23:51.880 the injury, and he was impressed with him. It's hard 0:23:51.920 --> 0:23:55.280 not to be impressed with with what he shows you, 0:23:55.280 --> 0:23:58.240 you know, from an athleticism standpoint, the work to change 0:23:58.240 --> 0:24:02.160 the direction. Um, he's he's he's really pretty gifted that way. 0:24:02.200 --> 0:24:05.960 So it's it's it's unfortunate, it really is. I think, 0:24:07.160 --> 0:24:11.040 feel feel bad. All you're trying to do is improve yourself, 0:24:11.080 --> 0:24:13.399 you know, working out, trying to get better, trying to 0:24:13.400 --> 0:24:16.560 get bigger, trying to get stronger, and those those kind 0:24:16.600 --> 0:24:18.800 of things take place, they happen and you get bitten. 0:24:19.920 --> 0:24:24.000 So does this increase the possibility or likelihood even that 0:24:24.080 --> 0:24:26.840 the Bengals try to sign a veteran to add to 0:24:26.840 --> 0:24:29.240 their offensive line depth. I was looking at the tackles 0:24:29.280 --> 0:24:33.240 that are still out there, Rick Wagner, Russell o'coon, Mitchell Schwartz, 0:24:33.280 --> 0:24:37.080 Morgan Moses All between the ages of thirty and thirty two. 0:24:37.240 --> 0:24:40.199 Now Morgan Moses, I think is probably still looking at 0:24:40.240 --> 0:24:42.960 a big contract. Not sure about the others. But what 0:24:43.000 --> 0:24:47.159 do you think, Yeah, that's you've hit the magic you know, 0:24:47.200 --> 0:24:50.240 the magic sauce for the answer. I think, what kind 0:24:50.280 --> 0:24:53.119 of contracts are they looking for? And um, you know, 0:24:53.200 --> 0:24:56.160 some some guys get to the point of their career, well, 0:24:56.240 --> 0:24:58.760 you know, I've I've earned quite a bit of money 0:24:59.240 --> 0:25:02.119 and this is what I'll do it for this, but 0:25:02.160 --> 0:25:04.719 I'm not going to do it for anything less, and 0:25:04.880 --> 0:25:07.760 they'll just decide I'd I'd rather not put my body 0:25:07.760 --> 0:25:11.600 through it for the sake of one more year, particularly 0:25:11.720 --> 0:25:15.160 what the price that they're offering. It just doesn't it 0:25:15.160 --> 0:25:17.480 doesn't make sense to me. It's not worth while to me. So, 0:25:17.960 --> 0:25:20.480 you know, where where are some of those guys' mindsets at? 0:25:20.840 --> 0:25:23.199 You know where where is their basement? You know, we 0:25:23.280 --> 0:25:25.200 know where their sailing probably is. It's going to be 0:25:25.240 --> 0:25:27.680 easy to find out, but where's their basement? Where's the floor? 0:25:28.240 --> 0:25:32.480 So yeah, it's I would think you're going to start 0:25:32.560 --> 0:25:35.520 kicking tires. There's there's no doubt. You always have to 0:25:36.040 --> 0:25:39.680 you have to find out which of those guys where 0:25:39.680 --> 0:25:42.720 their mentality is, you know, and the only way you 0:25:42.760 --> 0:25:44.720 can do it is pick up the phone and or 0:25:44.840 --> 0:25:47.800 you know, or if you do want to fly them somewhere, 0:25:47.880 --> 0:25:49.880 or you fly somewhere or whatever. If there's that kind 0:25:49.880 --> 0:25:51.600 of an interest, you have to you have to do 0:25:51.680 --> 0:25:54.960 your due diligence, that's for sure. And I'm sure they're 0:25:54.960 --> 0:25:57.520 in the process of deciding that right now and trying 0:25:57.520 --> 0:26:01.159 to explore who the more of liable candidates might be 0:26:01.200 --> 0:26:03.960 of that list of guys you're talking about, all right. 0:26:04.000 --> 0:26:07.840 Speaking of contracts, the Bengals have historically extended the contract 0:26:07.840 --> 0:26:10.840 of their key players as they go into the final 0:26:10.920 --> 0:26:13.239 year of their current deal and other words, don't let 0:26:13.280 --> 0:26:16.159 them become free agents. They did that last year with 0:26:16.240 --> 0:26:19.239 Joe Mixon. It often happens in training camp, and the 0:26:19.240 --> 0:26:23.760 most obvious candidates when camp begins are Jesse Bates and 0:26:23.880 --> 0:26:27.439 Sam Hubbard. Will it happen with either or both? In 0:26:27.480 --> 0:26:31.800 your opinion? I think if I think it's definitely going 0:26:31.880 --> 0:26:34.760 to happen with one, I'd be shocked if it doesn't 0:26:34.800 --> 0:26:37.560 happen with one of them. And I think there's a 0:26:37.640 --> 0:26:39.960 chance it could happen with both. I really I really 0:26:40.000 --> 0:26:43.399 believe that that those two components, those two players are 0:26:44.000 --> 0:26:46.840 are big pieces or what they're you know, what they're 0:26:46.840 --> 0:26:51.280 trying to keep intact and then build around. And you 0:26:51.400 --> 0:26:53.400 think about it, those are the only two guys left 0:26:53.440 --> 0:26:55.560 from like three years ago. You know that the starters, 0:26:56.119 --> 0:27:00.320 they've turned everything else over. Everybody else's is either a 0:27:00.359 --> 0:27:04.040 more recent draft pick or signed a veteran free agency 0:27:04.080 --> 0:27:07.160 in the last couple of offseasons. So though those two 0:27:07.160 --> 0:27:12.000 guys are definitely the type of players that the Bengals 0:27:12.000 --> 0:27:14.680 would target for this kind of thing for sure, and 0:27:15.320 --> 0:27:17.920 it would not it would not surprise me if they're 0:27:17.960 --> 0:27:22.919 both under contract once training camp is underway at some 0:27:23.000 --> 0:27:26.240 point in time, or you know, in during the course 0:27:26.280 --> 0:27:28.119 of one of the three preseason games there was an 0:27:28.160 --> 0:27:32.080 announcement made, or even before camp, Like you said, what 0:27:32.200 --> 0:27:36.280 would surprise me is if neither one of them are 0:27:36.400 --> 0:27:39.480 extended before the regular season starts. That would be a 0:27:39.480 --> 0:27:43.960 pretty more than a mile surprise to me. I think 0:27:43.960 --> 0:27:46.680 it's going to happen with both. Maybe I'm just being 0:27:46.720 --> 0:27:49.439 overly optimistic. I don't know, but it just seems to 0:27:49.480 --> 0:27:52.040 me that they've got the room to do it. They've 0:27:52.080 --> 0:27:55.280 set their cap situation up well in order to be 0:27:55.320 --> 0:27:58.280 able to extend those guys, and I think they feel 0:27:58.320 --> 0:28:01.359 that they are very important the culture that Zach Taylor 0:28:01.400 --> 0:28:05.080 has created. I agree with you, Dan, And the philosophy 0:28:05.119 --> 0:28:09.640 of the team has always been and really the last 0:28:09.680 --> 0:28:14.440 two offseasons it's been against that norm of rather would 0:28:14.640 --> 0:28:20.159 sign guys that have proven themselves that they drafted in 0:28:20.200 --> 0:28:23.160 the process developing, would like to continue along that path, 0:28:23.440 --> 0:28:26.680 then bring somebody else in, somebody else's guy and try 0:28:26.720 --> 0:28:30.040 to fit him into your scheme and your philosophy and 0:28:30.080 --> 0:28:33.399 all that sort of thing. The Bengals historically have liked 0:28:33.520 --> 0:28:37.280 to try to reward their own and build a culture 0:28:37.320 --> 0:28:40.000 like you're talking about. And these two guys are you know, 0:28:40.040 --> 0:28:43.280 are big on that side of the football defensefully for 0:28:43.400 --> 0:28:48.400 that part of it. So yeah, I'd I'd be pretty 0:28:48.440 --> 0:28:52.120 surprised if at least one isn't done pretty quickly, and 0:28:52.160 --> 0:28:54.200 then both before the start of the regular season. I 0:28:54.240 --> 0:28:57.520 agree with you. We were allowed to watch four practices 0:28:57.600 --> 0:28:59.880 this month. What were some of the things that stood 0:29:00.000 --> 0:29:04.840 out to you. I think that showing up is one thing, 0:29:05.440 --> 0:29:08.040 but showing up and going to work is the next thing. 0:29:08.560 --> 0:29:12.320 And what what stood out to me is I'd be 0:29:12.680 --> 0:29:17.080 I'd be surprised if anybody in the league got not 0:29:17.120 --> 0:29:21.400 only better attend or at tennis that was better than 0:29:21.600 --> 0:29:25.320 what the Bengals had. From a participation standpoint, I think 0:29:25.360 --> 0:29:27.360 they might have been about amongst the best, if not 0:29:27.480 --> 0:29:31.160 the best. But what they did when they showed up, 0:29:31.160 --> 0:29:34.840 it wasn't just I'm here. You know, that's done. I'm 0:29:34.880 --> 0:29:36.800 gonna not go through the motions, but I'm just, you 0:29:36.840 --> 0:29:40.960 know whatever, I'm just here to be here. They were 0:29:41.360 --> 0:29:43.400 Paul Brown used to call it in the spirit of it, 0:29:43.680 --> 0:29:45.400 and they were definitely in the spirit of it. You know, 0:29:45.400 --> 0:29:47.520 you've got to be in the spirit of going out 0:29:47.560 --> 0:29:51.240 and working and getting better and be with your teammates 0:29:51.280 --> 0:29:53.880 and all the things that are are what you try 0:29:53.880 --> 0:29:56.440 to get done in these offseason programs, and they were. 0:29:57.080 --> 0:30:02.600 I was. I was impressed with the level of enthusiasm, 0:30:03.160 --> 0:30:07.200 the level of activity. Um, you know, I do think 0:30:07.680 --> 0:30:13.600 that it wasn't burdensome with with the with the OTAs. 0:30:14.240 --> 0:30:17.120 They couldn't even do any eleven on eleven team. You 0:30:17.160 --> 0:30:21.160 know that the seven on seven was done one time 0:30:21.440 --> 0:30:23.720 and the very last OTA they had a seven on 0:30:23.880 --> 0:30:28.320 seven where you know, defensive backs went against receivers, and 0:30:28.520 --> 0:30:31.720 linebackers went against tight ends and uh and backside of 0:30:31.720 --> 0:30:34.360 the back film all that sort of thing um. The 0:30:34.400 --> 0:30:37.280 only time that they were allowed to go eleven on 0:30:37.400 --> 0:30:41.479 eleven offense against defense was in the one day of 0:30:41.520 --> 0:30:44.040 the mini camp that they had, the mandatory mini camp, 0:30:44.280 --> 0:30:47.040 you know, and that's because the players at that point 0:30:47.040 --> 0:30:50.360 in time, they're on the coaches time. Now, the coaches 0:30:50.880 --> 0:30:54.360 league directives. The league still you know, had some requirements, 0:30:54.360 --> 0:30:56.320 don't overdo it when you do the team and all 0:30:56.360 --> 0:30:59.360 that sort of thing um. And teams have been fine, 0:30:59.360 --> 0:31:03.080 and they've been fine draft picks for being too physical 0:31:03.720 --> 0:31:06.600 during mini camps, mandatory mini camps and so forth. Now, 0:31:06.640 --> 0:31:09.320 so the league is is player safety is a you know, 0:31:09.320 --> 0:31:11.600 a big factor and a big issue. But I do 0:31:11.680 --> 0:31:14.560 think that what they were asked to do, they were 0:31:14.600 --> 0:31:16.880 doing it at an all out level. I mean, there 0:31:16.960 --> 0:31:20.239 was there was no you know, coasting, no you know, uh, 0:31:21.360 --> 0:31:24.240 I'm gonna I'm gonna go half speed. So I'm letting 0:31:24.240 --> 0:31:26.280 you know I'm going half speed. You go half speed 0:31:26.280 --> 0:31:29.520 against me? None of that, you know, playing Uh, let's 0:31:29.600 --> 0:31:32.680 let's just dance through this workout. It was pretty good work. 0:31:32.800 --> 0:31:35.520 And that's what impressed me is the is the level 0:31:35.600 --> 0:31:39.240 of level of interest, the level of activity, um, the 0:31:39.360 --> 0:31:43.040 level of commitment. All of that was was a big, 0:31:43.080 --> 0:31:46.760 big deal considering that everybody was out there, and I 0:31:46.800 --> 0:31:49.400 think they I think they made some advancement. Stand you know, 0:31:49.640 --> 0:31:52.160 it's it's seeing it on the board is one thing, 0:31:52.560 --> 0:31:54.440 But being out in the field, breaking the huddle and 0:31:54.480 --> 0:31:58.120 lining up and making adjustments with teammates on the field 0:31:58.160 --> 0:32:01.400 as things unfold in front of you, there's no substitute 0:32:01.440 --> 0:32:04.160 for it. And I think they got quite a few 0:32:04.160 --> 0:32:07.040 workouts in that way. The biggest thing that stood out 0:32:07.040 --> 0:32:09.800 to me was how much Joe Burrow did. They talked 0:32:09.840 --> 0:32:11.920 about how cautious they were going to be, and they 0:32:11.920 --> 0:32:15.240 were to a certain extent. But if you had asked 0:32:15.240 --> 0:32:19.120 me prior to the OTAs what I expected to see 0:32:19.120 --> 0:32:21.080 out of Joe Burrow, I thought he would be there. 0:32:21.200 --> 0:32:25.040 I thought he would throw some passes to the wide receivers, 0:32:25.040 --> 0:32:27.080 and then I think I probably expected to see him 0:32:27.080 --> 0:32:30.120 more on the rehab field. But he basically took part 0:32:30.160 --> 0:32:32.880 in just about everything. They kept him out of the 0:32:32.880 --> 0:32:36.680 eleven on eleven stuff in that final mandatory or only 0:32:36.720 --> 0:32:41.440 mandatory minicamp practice when there are defensive lineman and offensive 0:32:41.480 --> 0:32:45.080 lineman engaged just in case somebody trips or something like that. 0:32:45.120 --> 0:32:47.000 But other than that, I mean, he was rolling out 0:32:47.120 --> 0:32:51.200 left and right, running forward and you know, to lead 0:32:51.200 --> 0:32:53.440 the drills as we talked about in our last podcast, 0:32:53.560 --> 0:32:56.920 maybe not sprinting one hundred percent, but moving well and 0:32:57.960 --> 0:33:00.960 giving us all a lot of Optimis him in confidence 0:33:00.960 --> 0:33:02.520 that he'll be able to answer the bell for the 0:33:02.560 --> 0:33:07.280 season opener. Yeah, And I think I think basically he 0:33:07.400 --> 0:33:11.080 put his individual rehab on hold as such. You know, 0:33:11.120 --> 0:33:14.240 he said, okay, because I think a lot of teammates 0:33:14.240 --> 0:33:17.200 expected what you're talking to describing Dan. I think they 0:33:17.240 --> 0:33:20.920 expected him to be out there and doing some things 0:33:20.920 --> 0:33:24.720 and showing support, but still doing rehab things with guys 0:33:24.760 --> 0:33:27.880 that were on the rehab field, you know, like the 0:33:28.040 --> 0:33:31.400 offensive and defensive lineman, DJ reader, Ronelle Wren, you know, 0:33:31.400 --> 0:33:34.280 and Trey Hopkins and the guys that were rehabbing. I 0:33:34.320 --> 0:33:37.400 think they expected a mix like that. But his whole 0:33:37.400 --> 0:33:42.360 thing was no, I tried to work with Jesse Bates 0:33:42.360 --> 0:33:45.080 and others trying to get everybody here. So since I 0:33:45.120 --> 0:33:47.400 did that, I'm doing everything I'm doing as much as 0:33:47.400 --> 0:33:49.200 I can, like you guys are. And I think that's 0:33:49.200 --> 0:33:54.680 a big statement by him. And basically, you know, he said, 0:33:54.720 --> 0:33:56.520 you know, I'm still eighty five percent. I told you 0:33:56.600 --> 0:33:58.760 I was eighty five percent at the beginning of this process, 0:33:58.840 --> 0:34:01.880 and this month rehabs on hold, I'm still eighty five percent. 0:34:01.920 --> 0:34:04.600 Now they'll go back to work with Nick Cosgrey and 0:34:04.760 --> 0:34:08.920 and and you know, get right back to the the 0:34:08.960 --> 0:34:12.480 finer points of rehab and finish off and come as 0:34:12.480 --> 0:34:14.400 close as he can to one hundred percent as quickly 0:34:14.400 --> 0:34:18.400 as he can for training camp. So I think that 0:34:18.400 --> 0:34:23.480 that was intentional obviously, and him him just being a 0:34:24.160 --> 0:34:27.520 you know, a leader and proving that he wants to 0:34:27.560 --> 0:34:30.160 step up to his leadership game in every play shape 0:34:30.200 --> 0:34:34.560 or form that he can. I think from watching those practices, 0:34:34.640 --> 0:34:37.040 I have also identified what I now consider to be 0:34:37.120 --> 0:34:40.960 the Bengals biggest question mark and or potential weakness. And 0:34:41.040 --> 0:34:43.920 believe it or not, it's not the offensive line. Here's 0:34:43.960 --> 0:34:46.319 what I think is the biggest question mark. Do the 0:34:46.400 --> 0:34:51.799 Bengals have a game changing player on defense? Because I 0:34:51.840 --> 0:34:54.600 think the defense is much better, but I'm not sure 0:34:54.600 --> 0:34:56.520 I see a guy there that's going to get that 0:34:56.680 --> 0:34:59.560 sack or force a fumble or come up with interception 0:35:00.040 --> 0:35:03.279 when the game's on the line in the fourth quarter. Yeah, 0:35:03.360 --> 0:35:06.920 I think you know, you're looking for somebody to uh, 0:35:07.200 --> 0:35:10.879 you know, to be a playmaker when when you have 0:35:11.000 --> 0:35:16.840 to have somebody step up and create a game changing opportunity. 0:35:17.120 --> 0:35:19.000 Who is that guy going to be? I agree with you. 0:35:19.560 --> 0:35:23.280 I think they do have, um, you know, very very 0:35:23.600 --> 0:35:27.400 talented guys as a group. I think they got effort guys. 0:35:27.440 --> 0:35:31.239 I would never question the effort that I've seen, you know, 0:35:31.360 --> 0:35:34.680 at this point in time, obviously from Sam Hubbard Hendrickson, 0:35:34.760 --> 0:35:38.839 the Age Brothers and and others. I wouldn't question their 0:35:38.840 --> 0:35:42.239 effort whatsoever. Um. I hope I hope the guy that 0:35:42.520 --> 0:35:47.040 uh that that continues along the path he's continuing on, 0:35:47.080 --> 0:35:51.040 and I think his teammates are starting to think that 0:35:51.120 --> 0:35:53.439 he might be This guy would be would be Jesse, 0:35:53.600 --> 0:35:55.759 you know, being the ball hawk Jesse Bates, the ball 0:35:55.840 --> 0:35:59.839 hockey safety type guy that that quarterbacks are really going 0:35:59.880 --> 0:36:01.520 to have to look out for. They're gonna have to, 0:36:01.680 --> 0:36:05.360 you know, keep one eyeball on at all times. But yeah, 0:36:05.400 --> 0:36:07.759 who is who is the guy when when you break 0:36:07.760 --> 0:36:10.160 the huddle, come to the line of scrimmage as an 0:36:10.160 --> 0:36:14.120 offensive line, where is he? Okay, where you know what? 0:36:15.239 --> 0:36:19.560 Where Where's where's lt? You always had to identify where's this? 0:36:19.680 --> 0:36:23.080 Where's the guy that we have to take an extra 0:36:23.120 --> 0:36:26.160 precaution and put an extra body on and make sure 0:36:26.160 --> 0:36:28.120 we take care of him. You know, when you break 0:36:28.120 --> 0:36:30.440 the line of scrimmage, come up to break the huddle, 0:36:30.440 --> 0:36:32.760 come up to the line of scrimmage. Where is the guy? 0:36:33.160 --> 0:36:35.000 For the Bengals, I agree with you, who is the 0:36:35.040 --> 0:36:37.479 guy who's going to step up and be that guy? 0:36:37.760 --> 0:36:42.040 And really, from a lineman standpoint, I mean the safety 0:36:42.040 --> 0:36:44.520 and all that, that's that's the quarterback and receiver's issue, 0:36:44.840 --> 0:36:46.680 you know, unless he's a guy that mixes it up 0:36:46.719 --> 0:36:49.880 and and as a heavy and blitz packages or whatever, 0:36:50.480 --> 0:36:54.000 um you know, and that's why, you know, part of 0:36:54.040 --> 0:36:58.360 me says, well, you know, maybe maybe it's somebody like 0:36:58.360 --> 0:37:02.640 like Mike Hilton who who can do so many different things. 0:37:02.680 --> 0:37:05.400 Maybe is he the guy that you're gonna have to 0:37:05.480 --> 0:37:07.319 come up to the line of scrimmage as a team 0:37:07.320 --> 0:37:10.160 and say, identify where as Hilton? Because this guy blitz 0:37:10.239 --> 0:37:13.040 is from everywhere and he's capable of, you know, staying 0:37:13.080 --> 0:37:16.400 in coverage. He might be somebody that that's going to 0:37:16.760 --> 0:37:19.480 come free if we don't assign an extra body to him, 0:37:20.000 --> 0:37:22.080 or if we don't have an extra body quarterback change 0:37:22.120 --> 0:37:25.240 formation because he's on the edge of the defense and formation, 0:37:25.320 --> 0:37:27.960 he's gonna you know, high percentage of blitz. Now you 0:37:28.000 --> 0:37:29.759 have to start to account form. And if you've got 0:37:29.800 --> 0:37:32.120 a guy like that, a chess piece like that, did 0:37:32.200 --> 0:37:35.320 you make the offense have to adjust to you know, 0:37:35.480 --> 0:37:37.840 you're punching and their counterpunching. That's what you're trying to 0:37:37.840 --> 0:37:40.920 get done for sure. Or maybe this is a defense 0:37:40.960 --> 0:37:44.640 that doesn't have a guy, but it's counting on a 0:37:44.640 --> 0:37:47.200 different guy in every game. So it's Hilton one game, 0:37:47.200 --> 0:37:50.399 it's Hendrickson and another it's Jesse Bates in another. As 0:37:50.400 --> 0:37:54.200 opposed to having that Miles Garrett T. J. Watt kind 0:37:54.200 --> 0:37:56.880 of guy that when the game is on the line, 0:37:57.560 --> 0:38:00.520 that's the guy that that typically makes the play. Yeah, 0:38:00.520 --> 0:38:03.200 and the defense that comes to mind a little bit 0:38:03.200 --> 0:38:06.319 when you're talking describing what you just talked about, Dan, 0:38:06.760 --> 0:38:09.920 the Miami Dolphins defense of the perfect season. You know, 0:38:10.000 --> 0:38:13.680 there wasn't like, oh, here's this perennial problem. They had 0:38:13.719 --> 0:38:15.920 a bunch of guys. You know that Wanta Contie was 0:38:15.960 --> 0:38:18.839 a really good linebacker, Standfill was really good defensive line. 0:38:18.960 --> 0:38:21.279 But they weren't like, oh my gosh, you know, some 0:38:21.360 --> 0:38:23.759 of the best players ever. But they had a you know, 0:38:23.880 --> 0:38:27.040 Dick Anderson on the back end, and they they had 0:38:27.080 --> 0:38:31.200 players that very very smart, always where they were supposed 0:38:31.239 --> 0:38:33.799 to be when they were supposed to be there, understood 0:38:33.840 --> 0:38:40.120 the whole defensive structure and h concepts, you know, as 0:38:40.120 --> 0:38:43.000 well as anybody could. And maybe maybe it's going to 0:38:43.080 --> 0:38:46.120 be that type of defense that you know is boy, 0:38:46.600 --> 0:38:49.680 nobody's ever not where they're supposed to be. These guys 0:38:49.680 --> 0:38:53.520 are always they're lined up right. Nobody's lining up if 0:38:53.520 --> 0:38:56.160 you if you line up wrong, you're you're beating before 0:38:56.160 --> 0:38:58.120 the snap of the football. That's the first thing you 0:38:58.120 --> 0:38:59.920 have to do to make sure a big gets lined 0:38:59.960 --> 0:39:02.839 up right. And those guys were always lined up right. 0:39:03.160 --> 0:39:06.360 And then if you change the strength and formation, do whatever. 0:39:06.400 --> 0:39:09.000 They always made the right adjustments and they were always 0:39:09.040 --> 0:39:11.400 hit the right gap. You know, they were where they 0:39:11.440 --> 0:39:13.080 were supposed to be when they were supposed to be there. 0:39:13.120 --> 0:39:16.600 And if you can get that done with everybody on 0:39:16.760 --> 0:39:18.840 the defensive side, of the football. You're way ahead of 0:39:18.880 --> 0:39:22.000 the game. I'm tempted to call the OTAs and the 0:39:22.080 --> 0:39:26.040 abbreviated mini camp camp kumbayah because there seems to be 0:39:26.080 --> 0:39:29.000 such a spirit of harmony and unity. Do you feel 0:39:29.040 --> 0:39:31.520 the same way? And is that Zach Taylor? Is that 0:39:31.600 --> 0:39:35.600 Joe Burrow? What accounts for that? Yeah? I think I 0:39:35.640 --> 0:39:40.040 think it's hum There's a big proliferation, There's no question 0:39:40.040 --> 0:39:43.080 about it. And the thing too is you look at 0:39:43.080 --> 0:39:45.200 there's quite a few new coaches on the staff, you know, 0:39:45.239 --> 0:39:47.319 and and they were all part of that, I think 0:39:47.360 --> 0:39:50.839 as well. So I think I think Zach is really, um, 0:39:51.320 --> 0:39:56.040 really doing everything he possibly can to to bond his 0:39:56.200 --> 0:40:00.960 coaching staff. I think they're doing thing outside of the 0:40:01.080 --> 0:40:04.880 office as such, you know, and and really trying to 0:40:04.920 --> 0:40:08.960 grow together and become a very tight knit group as 0:40:09.000 --> 0:40:11.440 far as the coaching staff goes. And then that that 0:40:11.560 --> 0:40:14.960 trickles down to the to the players, and um, you've 0:40:14.960 --> 0:40:18.840 already mentioned guys from a players standpoint, Um, you know, 0:40:18.920 --> 0:40:22.319 Joe Barrow offensively, Jesse Bates defensively, the quarterback and the 0:40:22.400 --> 0:40:26.360 quarterback of the defense as such, I think that those 0:40:26.400 --> 0:40:31.600 are two guys in pivotal places that that are important, 0:40:31.680 --> 0:40:34.560 and I think that they're up to the task of 0:40:35.080 --> 0:40:39.440 creating a you know, we are family type atmosphere that 0:40:39.480 --> 0:40:43.919 the Pittsburgh Pirates, you know, talked about that. Honestly, it's 0:40:44.800 --> 0:40:48.640 it's it's it's a situation where I said this a 0:40:48.640 --> 0:40:51.960 few times. The teams in the eighties that went to 0:40:52.000 --> 0:40:56.560 the Super Bowl best players were amongst the best people. 0:40:57.239 --> 0:41:00.799 And when you have that, that's energistic effect. You got 0:41:00.840 --> 0:41:05.200 something special. When your best players are jerks, you got trouble. 0:41:05.800 --> 0:41:11.160 When your best players are special people, you got big 0:41:11.280 --> 0:41:15.680 success possibilities. And I think I think that's what that's 0:41:15.680 --> 0:41:17.440 what this team is starting to evolve to. You know, 0:41:17.520 --> 0:41:21.120 I think they're better. Players, are all top shelf, high 0:41:21.200 --> 0:41:24.160 quality people for sure. This is the first time in 0:41:24.280 --> 0:41:27.800 Zach's three years that none of the kind of vocal 0:41:27.920 --> 0:41:31.400 veterans from the Marvin Lewis era remain. Carlos Dunlap and 0:41:31.440 --> 0:41:35.840 Sean Williams are gone. AJ Green and Geno Atkins weren't vocal, 0:41:36.080 --> 0:41:38.480 but they obviously had a huge presence because of who 0:41:38.480 --> 0:41:41.080 they were. I don't think that Zach had an issue 0:41:41.080 --> 0:41:44.480 with anybody but Carlos, but did guys like that have 0:41:44.640 --> 0:41:46.960 to go for the younger guys that you were referring 0:41:47.000 --> 0:41:50.759 to to step up and lead? Yeah, I think I 0:41:50.800 --> 0:41:55.680 think that, Uh, you know, Sean Williams, I think coaches, teammates, 0:41:56.320 --> 0:41:58.120 He was the kind of guy that was all in 0:41:58.200 --> 0:42:01.880 all the time. I mean, everybody appreciate and love what 0:42:01.880 --> 0:42:05.239 what Sean Williams brought to the table. Like you said, 0:42:05.280 --> 0:42:09.560 Gino and AJ, they were leaders by example, not by 0:42:09.800 --> 0:42:12.919 you know, word, There were leaders by action, not by 0:42:12.960 --> 0:42:16.719 spoken word. Um. And then you know, Carlos obviously had 0:42:16.719 --> 0:42:19.760 had his issues down the stretch there that turned into 0:42:20.000 --> 0:42:22.920 you know, something that just couldn't be couldn't be resolved, 0:42:22.960 --> 0:42:27.000 couldn't be handled on either either sides, to either side satisfaction. 0:42:27.080 --> 0:42:30.840 But I do think that that there were guys ready 0:42:31.040 --> 0:42:33.440 to take over, you know, some of those h some 0:42:33.520 --> 0:42:36.360 of those roles. And it's going to be interesting to 0:42:36.440 --> 0:42:39.759 see how some of these young players what they turn 0:42:39.840 --> 0:42:42.560 out to be. Are they going to be guys that 0:42:43.200 --> 0:42:45.600 play really well and don't have a whole lot to 0:42:45.600 --> 0:42:48.520 say but let their play speak for themselves, or are 0:42:48.600 --> 0:42:50.759 they going to be guys that are you know, more 0:42:50.880 --> 0:42:57.840 more vocal or somewhere in between. And it's interesting some guys, 0:42:58.560 --> 0:43:00.640 you know, you talk to teammates they played with in 0:43:00.719 --> 0:43:03.920 college and it's like, you're kidding me. In college, man, 0:43:04.000 --> 0:43:05.960 he was rah rah, he was vocally was this, he 0:43:06.040 --> 0:43:08.440 was that. Sometimes you get to the next level and 0:43:08.440 --> 0:43:12.400 it's like, man, you're so like overwhelmed by how good 0:43:12.600 --> 0:43:15.120 everybody is that you just I'm not going to speak 0:43:15.160 --> 0:43:17.000 unless spoken to. I'm just going to try to do 0:43:17.040 --> 0:43:20.000 the best job I can and survive in advance in 0:43:20.120 --> 0:43:22.440 terms on a day to day basis, and try to 0:43:22.480 --> 0:43:24.800 play as well as I can. And then other times, 0:43:25.120 --> 0:43:28.000 you know, guys develop at different rates, you know, and 0:43:28.000 --> 0:43:29.440 all of a sudden, a guy that was, you know, 0:43:29.440 --> 0:43:32.600 a good player in college gets an opportunity to grow 0:43:32.760 --> 0:43:35.640 and physically mature and all that becomes an even better 0:43:35.680 --> 0:43:39.880 player at the NFL level. And he maybe was quiet, 0:43:39.960 --> 0:43:42.279 a quiet guy in college, it becomes a vocal guy, 0:43:42.440 --> 0:43:45.560 you know, as the mature as age wise and physical 0:43:45.600 --> 0:43:47.680 presence wise and everything else. So it's going to be 0:43:47.719 --> 0:43:50.640 interesting to see how some of these guys mature over 0:43:50.680 --> 0:43:54.240 the next you know, five seven, eight years of their career, 0:43:54.320 --> 0:43:58.600 like the AJ Greens and the Geno Atkins has did. So. 0:43:58.680 --> 0:44:02.960 The summer vacation begins for the players as of today, 0:44:03.080 --> 0:44:05.920 and it's a relatively easy time for the two of 0:44:06.000 --> 0:44:09.600 us until training camp begins. Yes, what you got going on? 0:44:09.680 --> 0:44:12.400 Do you have a little grand time, a grandkid time planned? 0:44:12.680 --> 0:44:16.160 What's up for Dave Apple? Yeah, we do, got a 0:44:16.160 --> 0:44:18.680 lot of a lot of kids, a lot of time 0:44:18.719 --> 0:44:22.080 spent with the grand kiddies. For sure. We're gonna head 0:44:22.080 --> 0:44:27.360 down to Hilton Head. We've got twenty one people family, 0:44:27.640 --> 0:44:30.440 both sides of the family here in Cincinnati and Saint Louis, 0:44:31.160 --> 0:44:33.719 my wife Lynn's family as well as some of mine 0:44:34.000 --> 0:44:36.640 going down to going down to Hilton Head. And we've 0:44:36.680 --> 0:44:42.400 got nine children from age one to age nine, maybe 0:44:42.440 --> 0:44:45.640 just turning ten. I think it might be. Yeah, Shamus's 0:44:45.640 --> 0:44:49.399 birthday is while we're down there, he turns ten. So yeah, 0:44:49.440 --> 0:44:54.200 it's gonna be almost like Camp Waconda down there with 0:44:54.320 --> 0:44:56.400 all little ones. You know. I got a big old pool, 0:44:56.520 --> 0:44:59.520 got a big house obviously with a dumb bunch of 0:44:59.560 --> 0:45:05.080 bedroom and twenty one people total. Pull beach right, it's 0:45:05.120 --> 0:45:07.319 run on the beach. So we're looking forward to it. 0:45:07.320 --> 0:45:09.719 It's gonna be a lot of fun. 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